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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It'll take me two seconds. Yeah. All right. So prior to final, they'll need DOT approval for any work they're going to do on the right-of-way, SWIP approval from the town engineer, and then revisions to the plans. They'll need to revise to comply with the engineer's comments. He made a few comments in terms of drainage. Same thing for the fire marshal. They'll have to comply with all the applicable conditions of the letter of order availability. They need to provide their impervious service calculation, provide a sidewalk along 25. All parking needs to be indicated as 10 by 20. They'll need to provide three loading spaces, indicate that the egress onto 25 is right turn only, cross access to this parcel and this parcel, which is the medical complex here. This is dairy land. And then the landscape plan, I just have some better species, better native species that we're asking for. They'll need to demonstrate. They'll need to demonstrate compliance with the buffering requirement for the town code. If you guys remember when we discussed the staff report, Ken, I can bring you up to speed on this. There's a 10-foot buffering requirement because it adjoins residences. And my suggestion was either to do it at the property line, which would be along this area, because these are all residential uses, or at the limit of disturbance where this fence is. They could also do like an evergreen here because it will essentially serve the same function. All right. Did the applicant receive a copy of your comments? They have. You're familiar? Yeah. Yep. And then just a couple of changes to the elevations for the ARB. It was a color change, mounting height of all the lighting, and then just some revisions to the photometric plan. So a little bit of tweaks on the site plan, but it's largely there. And actually, Matt, the building itself is pretty far back. Yes. Probably almost 200 feet back approximately. Yeah. It probably calls it out on there. It doesn't actually. But, yeah, it's pretty far. Yeah. It's close to 200. Any other questions? Everybody good? You might want to stick around. There is a resolution on it. Okay. Moving right along. Let's talk about West Main Street redevelopment. All right. I will just ask some of the representatives from the applicant to come up and join in the discussion if you'd like. Yeah, sure. All right. Yeah. You can have it. All right.

Justin, can we just zoom in on that a little bit? Gentlemen, if we could, get all your names for the record, please. Ray Dickoff, Aquabug. Frank Fisher. Martin Samusky. All right. Okay. All right. Thank you. So, what we have is a preliminary site plan application, which is seeking approval to redevelop an existing commercial site. This site previously housed the Blackman Plumbing Supply Wholesale business, as well as the Advanced Imaging System business. Redevelopment of the site will consist of demolition of the existing buildings and the parking areas, construct two new buildings, one of them being a three-story, 153,000 square-foot, self-storage building. Okay. And the applicant is proposing a one-story, 49,700 square-foot, non-nuisance tenant rental building. Parking, paving, landscaping, drainage, and new water connections are proposed, and the applicant has petitioned for an extension of the Rivad Seward District. What's the legal term for non-nuisance tenant? So the code allows wholesale business, which in our code is described as it is, it does leave a lot of room for interpretation. The code defines wholesale business. Okay. And the applicant has petitioned for non-nuisance tenant rental. What's the legal term for non-nuisance tenant rental? The code defines wholesale business as any industry which is not detrimental to the environment in which it is located by reason of the emission of noise, smoke, odor, dust, dirt, gas, glare, heat, liquid, fire hazards, industrial waste, transportation, and traffic, and which does not include any open storage yard or outdoor processing materials. So it is a very permissive terminology. We looked at it, and we did, and I spoke with the applicant. Self-storage is typically a very low-end. It's a low traffic generator. The Institute of Traffic Engineers has its trip generation at .09 trips per hour per thousand square feet, which roughly is about 10 trips per hour for a 100,000 square foot building. So just sort of extrapolate it out. This is not anticipated to be a high trip generation use. Again, it's quiet. There's no noise associated with it. So I did look at it, and I would consider the self-storage to be wholesale business. Under that pretty broad definition. The non-nuisance tenant rental is sort of another story that I think is a little bit too vague of a description of a use. I think that needs to be expanded upon. So we'll just kind of just go back a little bit. So the redevelopment of the site. It is a type one action under our town code. There was a full environmental assessment form that was submitted back in November, which was founded in the early 2000s. It's a type one action under our town code. Which was found there were a number of errors and deficiencies and inaccuracies. We're still waiting on submission of a revised full EAF. So before we can type the action and classify it and begin secret coordination, we need that to be filled out accurately. That's everything on page two? Yeah. That was just kind of me running through it and sort of detailing things that need to be addressed. The proper approvals. Identifying that it's in the New York State heritage area. Cut and paste. Cut and fill calculations. For example, it was filled out, said that the proposed action will not create a new demand for water. And just a couple of other little sections that should be filled out using DEC's EAF mapping tool. Yeah, in terms of the project site, it actually consists of six contiguous properties located on the north side of West Main Street. The total project size, the total project area is 258,000 square feet, which is about 5.9 acres. It's located within the Peconic River community with a PRC zoning use district. And the site is also located within the New York State DEC wild, scenic, and recreational rivers area. They got a permit yet? Do they have a permit yet? I don't believe they have the DEC permit yet, but again, we will coordinate with the DEC once we get the amended EAF and we'll classify that. You said it's a type one, right? Correct. It is a type one. It's a secret application, so it's type two. Type two. Okay. So, what's the difference between the two? I mean, again, that's incorrect. So, there was a number of things that were filled out incorrectly, so I'll work with the applicant to make sure they address those items. And again, before we take any action on it, that'll need to be filled out properly. I did note that there was some illegal clearing on a portion of the property, which was done without any kind of site plan approval or approvals from the town. There was a driveway made of mixed crushed concrete, brick, and stone material that created a new access from West Main Street. I did take some pictures of there on a site visit on page five of the staff report. Code enforcement has been out there. They did issue stop work orders. It appears as though those stop work orders are being ignored. So there is a provision in the town code which states that if any land clearing, site work, building construction, or alteration is commenced prior to final site plan approval, the site plan fee shall be doubled. So in addition to the amended EAF and the correct paperwork, the site plan fee will need to be doubled before we take action. Based on your Figure 1, where is the driveway? So there is a, I would say it is probably within tax map number 124-3-3. There is a telephone pole. I would say it's probably about midway through that 124-3-3. Will that probably be an entrance that you'll have? So that gate was over. It was originally always there. We didn't clear anything. It was just overgrown. The driveway that was there originally was overgrown. So there wasn't anything cleared. We just put some crushed concrete down to stop the flooding. Will that be one of your entrances? No, no. The whole site is going to be all totally new. So anything there now is just temporary until we get through this process. Out on the road, out on West Main Street, you'll see there is an apron, an existing apron on the road. And there is an existing gate in the back. Perfect. And there is a gate in the back corner. So it was there. And it was just overgrown again. So we cleared it back out. And we just, if anybody knows, it was the neighbor across the street who was just trying to make waves and call the court. That's all it was. So he's got major problems with the town. So that's what happened. A while back the property did have houses on it. And I recall being in the area with friends when I was a kid. And there was a driveway there with about four houses. So that was actually the access roadway. I think it was the access roadway. I think it was the access roadway. And there was a private drive at the time for the houses along each side of that area. Yeah, it wasn't trees. It was just like tall grasses. It was just tall grasses. That's all it was. And I noticed there's a storage facility in the back there. Yeah. So that was the parking lot for the, I guess the Blackman plumbing supply site. They used to have all the pipes and all the different plumbing materials were stored back there. It's all paved. They had, Blackman had all the outdoor, like the long legs of pipes and different stuff. Oil tanks. Fittings. Yeah. They had stuff out there. Used to work there when I was a kid. And when I'm fixing the county avenue too. And what are all the cars doing back there now? They're just stored. Just stored. For? Who they, who they store for? Just stored. For, for what? What do you mean stored? Just stored. Then you're about to remove them. What's that? You're going to remove them. Yeah. Everything there is temporary. So that's all coming out. We're knocking this place down. It's, it's everything there is just temporary until we get through this process because this is probably a two year process. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. So, yeah. definition of wholesale business, so there is no outdoor storage. I wouldn't put it on if I could. I don't like it. I don't like campers and stuff like that. Are there any other uses besides storage? Are there any other uses? I don't know. This is what I planned on doing, so I don't know other uses. I'm sure there are problems. All your plans are just for storage? For storage, yeah, just for storage. That was my question. I thought you meant in general on the property. Have you been to the DEC at all? I think we're in, right? Yeah, we're already in. Yeah, we did the same thing we did on Bromo. You're within that 500-foot corridor. Not corridor, but... Scenic Wild Rivers. At 11 feet, you have an 11-foot... You know, the water table is over there. You're going to be drowning in that basement. There's just water there at something like 8 feet. I think they did. We did a test hole. Yeah, because we're up higher. We're a little much higher. Yeah, they hit water at 11 feet below. Okay, so yeah, I mean, I would say 8 and 9. Yeah. You're a little bit higher. And you're going to have a basement? Yes. What's the basement? What are you going to use the basement for? I see there's a ramp down there. Yeah, some more. We need storage, car storage. The key to that is water was hit at 8... What was it? What was the number, Craig? 11. I think 11 feet below. Okay. It was 11 feet below, but it was taken at elevation 17. The floor of this building is set at elevation 22. So, I don't know, 6 and a half acres. Where that test hole was actually taken was 6 somewhat feet below where we're going to have our floor. So, it won't be an issue to have the basement that we proposed. They've relaxed that a little bit, but it's... I have a piece of property that's inside the street. Why would you take a test hole? Not exactly where the basement's going. It's a 6.2 acre site. I know, I understand that, but you should have a pretty good idea on where the building is going. Why wouldn't you do a test hole there? Because I did the test hole a year before I had a drawing of where the building was going to be. I did a test hole on the property and got the elevation of that test hole where it's taken. And we have an elevation of the existing highway, and we have an elevation of our entrances, and an elevation of where our floor is going to be. Right. So... So, to just touch on... So, the basement will come into play in terms of the discussion. So, the application right now as proposed requires three variances from Riverhead Town Code. The first being is the increase in proposed floor area ratio. The applicant's proposing 78.65% where a maximum of 60% is permitted. Just for the board's knowledge, the proposal is for 203,100 square feet, where the maximum is 60.5% is permitted. The maximum permitted is 154,920, which is approximately 50,000 square feet of additional floor area of what's permitted. That is about... It's 18.65% above what's permitted, and the main driver of that increase in floor area is those basements. The... They require a variance from impervious surface coverage. Currently proposed is 46.4%. The maximum permitted is 40. And the proposed natural landscape area is 38.23%, where the minimum required is 50%. So, I did include just a five-point balancing test that the Zoning Board of Appeals looks at for when they do get to the Zoning Board of Appeals. And I mean, I'm hesitant to use this word because it has been subjective, but I think this is really an overdevelopment of the property. There's a few factors that I look in when I say that. One, the increased floor area. I mean, 50,000 square feet. 50,000 additional square feet above what's permitted. That's a significant variance. There has been case law throughout New York State where Zoning Board of Appeals throughout the state have denied an application seeking an excess of 15%, which they found to be excessive. This application is at 18.65%. I did also note in the staff report on the site plan, you can see there's basically the entire, I will say almost the entirety of the parking supply is being proposed. As pervious pavement. Now, our town code does allow alternative paving techniques, which include pervious pavers at discretion upon approval from the planning board, the town's consulting engineer and the town engineer. I did receive comments from the town engineer as well as Vinnie Gaudiello. From an engineering perspective, they said they could manage the stormwater. They could be appropriate. However, in this case, you know, I look at it. The use of pervious pavers should not be used. To provide your entire supply of parking. So for the board's knowledge, if this application were to propose impervious asphalt, they would be at about 154,000 square feet of impervious, which would be 19.7% impervious. I think the use of pervious pavers in this is really just to provide the entire parking supply, which would not be allowable under the current zoning. So I just, you know, that's my take. On it. I just think pervious pavers should not be used to increase the intensity of development on a property. If it was on a case-by-case basis where you're going to using gravel area, you know, gravel paving in certain areas, but this is really just to facilitate the increased floor area, which again, they're seeking a variance for the fact that they're not able to meet the landscaped area there. You know, they're reducing the amount of landscaped area that they're able to provide. So I think when you look at those three, I think it's just an intense development on the subject property. All right. That's probably going to be more of an issue for the zoning board. So we don't need to spend a lot of time on that right now. But it does come into play because the planning board, in order to use the pervious pavers, the planning board has to approve it, as well as the town engineer and the consulting engineer. So in fact, you board need to say, yes, we approve the use of pervious pavers for this application or not. Can I ask a question? The consulting engineer. Was that Vinnie Cordiello? Yeah. Is that pervious pavers only that you're talking about? Or is it pervious concrete, there's pervious asphalt, there's pervious pavers? I mean, there are other pervious hardtack that we could use. So from an engineering standpoint, both Drew and Vinnie said from an engineering standpoint, stormwater management standpoint, they were acceptable. There were some minor modifications that could be done in terms of capacity. But this is just sort of a, a principled question for the board of allowing, you know, you're looking at an application that proposes significant increase in floor area, reduction in landscaped areas, which is being facilitated by providing like 35,000 square feet worth of pervious pavers. I did put the site plan back here, another copy of it. If you look at the way that we utilize the pervious pavers on the site, along the, the, the building to the east, the entire entrance in the front area, fronting the road is in the pervious pavers, which we feel is a really good look. And then the property to the west, what we have is we have the driving areas, the driveways, the roadways through the parking lot as asphalt, you know, but if we're plowing, et cetera, but there we have the parking spaces as pervious pavers. That's sort of a, you know, a nice touch in terms of, you know, helping delineate the parking versus the driveway. You know, it's, the pavers can be striped, et cetera. So, you know, we see it not only as a, it does cut down on the, the impervious surface, but we actually are using it as a design tool. We think that there's, you know, it's a good design tool. We have the designated parking areas done in the pervious paver, and here the main front entrance of the whole, you know, storage building done with the pervious pavers, just a nice look, you know, so that's the benefit of the, of the... When it was used at the Hyatt, it's a beautiful look between the Hyatt and Jerry's, that whole front area. The area along the road is all pervious pavers, and it is a beautiful look because you can do the edging, you can do the, you know, the striping, you can do everything on it. It's a lot more expensive than pavement, too. Oh, yeah. A lot more expensive. A lot more expensive. And then the other, the additional area that we're talking about is the basement. So it's not any more ground cover. It's just going down, and it's just, why wouldn't we put a basement in? It doesn't make sense not to. We're doing the construction. We have to put footings in anyway, so why not just go down the extra, what, six feet of concrete walls to make a bit of, you know, a full basement, right? It just doesn't make sense not to put the basement in. So I would take my chances and ask for that variance, because why not? It's not affecting anything. It's not more ground. It's not more parking. It's not more, more, more anything. It's just the basement. And how can, the price of land today, you want to try to maximize every inch you can. I mean, you need storage. We need, I mean, we need, we need, we need. So it's the basement. Why, it just makes sense. Why wouldn't we put it in? I'm not, I wouldn't, I'm not debating any of that, but. No. The basement's 11 feet finished. It's what? It's 11 feet finished according to your. That's great, right? 11 feet finished. That's, that's, that's pretty deep. That's pretty high. You could do a lot of things down there. I mean, I'm not, you know. Well, we're going to do. Let me ask you a question. These 3,750 square foot units that you have, walls are concrete block, I'm assuming? Port or concrete block? The exterior walls or the interior? The dividers in between the two spaces. The interior walls. Oh, they're. No, that's what. They're just, they're like a pre-engineered metal wall. Okay. So I. Like an erector set. So they can come down pretty easily and you could double, triple, quadruple if you wanted to rent. You could, you could, but yeah. I mean, once you, you know, you have, you have full feasibility studies where we've hired professionals in the storage that do feasibility studies and they recommend, you know, X amount of certain size spaces, you know, bigger units on the lower floors, smaller units on the upper floors. And so that's all been done by. Professionals in the industry. So we can, it's a full feasibility study and we hired two companies to two, two separate feasibility studies and, and unit layout. They call it the unit layouts. So they, you know, you don't really want to put them in and move them around. And one of the bigger needs with regard to storage also, which is the primary reason the basement's there, especially on the, on the eastern building, there's a real need for, for high-end vehicle storage, you know, and not, you know, you don't want to put the whole building in there. There is. That's the whole idea. Climate control. Not the, not the unconditioned, you know, you can go to some of the storage units that are, you know, the single story buildings and they're unheated. And, you know, you put a car in there, it's in an unheated space. A lot of the higher end people looking for storage vehicles, especially during winter months, whatever, there's really a demand for that. And that's where the basement comes into play. It's a perfect. It would be fully climate control. I see each unit has access to the mezzanine. What's the mezzanine? Is the mezzanine a hard floor or is it expanded metal? That's hard floor. That's a fixed mezzanine, yeah. The building to the west, the building to the east is a storage building. The building to the west is more of a tenant-occupied building that could include, you know, they can include, you know, they can include different uses that wholesale industry, whatever. They may have some storage in that building's basement. They may have some office space up above on the mezzanine. So, you know, we wanted to create some flexibility in the space. They may have a retail area in the front, retail's permitted, so they could have a retail underneath, you know, a company office up above. They could have storage and material in the back. It's really going to depend on tenant needs. How does this fit in, Greg, with the master plan? Any? Any? There's not really major changes proposed in this area. No. I mean, it would still be consistent, I believe, with what we're doing with the master plan. It's going to be a lot nicer than what's there, I'll tell you that. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Marty, what's the height of the building on the storage building? It goes up. The height is 30, I think it's 34. It's 35 to the top. Yeah, 34. That is correct. All right. But does the parapet count also? I see some at 39 on the rental part. Parapets are actually, there's a provision in our code, parapets are excluded. Basically, five foot worth of parapet is excluded. Okay. So that's within the legal limits of the code. Marty, you have, what's, how many units are in that, the rental building, do you have any idea? In this building? The self-storage or the? The self-storage. Oh. 107, right? 107, I believe. Am I right? I counted 700 units. Where? No, you come out the storage facility. 716, I think. That doesn't include the basement? No, no. Well, the basement's not going to have units. That's not going to be units. But it's still going to be storage. Yeah, it'll be storage, but not like individual units. The basement's prime, most, the whole idea for that is for car storage. Because we have a lot of tenants that need, they just don't have enough space at home for their car storage. I belong to a car club, so we have a lot of people that just need car storage. Okay. So, you're saying that the basement is going to have units? Yeah. So, you're saying that the basement is going to have units? Yeah. One of the last thought I had, too, was, and these are pretty good sized buildings. If you go downtown and you look at a couple of the apartment buildings that have been put up in the last few years, there might be a couple of blocks in there that might be like individual units the basements prime most is the whole idea for that is for car storage because we have a lot of tenants that need they just don't have enough space at home for their car storage i belong to a car club so we have a lot of people that just need cars one of the last thought i had too was uh these are pretty good sized buildings if you go downtown and you look at a couple of the poverty buildings that have been put up in the last few years the warner mcdermott is just like a big monster not very attractive and i go to the building that you did on the other side of iconic and you have three or four different facades it's still a big building but it doesn't give you the impression that's a big building it has those different looks so my thought was and i liked your uh elevations nice but i was just wondering if it wouldn't make sense to make them different you know just so it doesn't look like this great big monster we're open to any of that man i want to make this thing beautiful you gotta understand guys i don't build to sell i'm keeping these for life so i'm putting my name on this thing and i have pride of ownership so you guys did you see the building at third street that we did the apartment complex at third street the whole town loves that we have police officers coming by looking at it for ideas to take to build their own places i'm building this stuff to keep it i want to drive by and be proud of this this isn't going to be just some moshed up building we're going to put in let's do this and we'll have stone work it's going to have i mean it's going to be beautiful elevations look good yeah i'm just wondering if it wouldn't make sense to break it up absolutely you did downtown it doesn't give you that great big behemoth right sure one of the things that we're really looking at right now is the fact that we need to get a denial to go to the zoning board i know there's a there's a you know coordinated review with it being a type one action which should be and uh therefore you know they're the ones that on the judicial end that have the same say as to what that these numbers are going to end up being so that could or could not affect all of these things yeah you know so we're sort of hoping to and that's one thing that's that's going to be a fixed a fixed determination when we go there right there so we're hoping we can get the denial to then go to the zoning board and and hopefully then be back after that having an enough you know another discussion as to where we are done a three-story uh building like this for self-storage have you ever done a three three stories i've actually i'm not the designer for this self-storage building there's a an architect that's uh from um he's obviously upstate uh there are there are a couple of architectural firms that specialize specializing stores storage buildings so i i'm not designing the storage building at all i'm designing the west building i'm sorry yeah the west building and doing the site plan I just, in my opinion, I haven't yet to see a three-story self-storage building out here. And 700 units is a lot of units, whether you can minimize the traffic and everything else. I just think that's putting 10 pounds of sand in a five-pound bag. Not really, though, because we have all the apartments on Main Street, and now whatever's going to happen in Riverside with all the new apartments going there, we're just going to need storage. And it's better to have it in one spot instead of popped up all over the place. And this is out of the way. It's not right in Main Street. It's down the road. The location's perfect. You couldn't be in a better spot. It's out of the way. It's not putting any traffic in Main Street. West Main Street is not your best highway to handle any extra traffic, I don't believe. Because I just sat at that property for an hour today. And with the possible retail going on the West building, it's not going to be as easy as you guys think it is. I've lived in Riverhead my whole life. And I just think it's a little oversized, in my opinion. Trust me, the place needs a cleanup. And I agree with that. But for me, it's a little much.

I'd like to say one thing more about your petitioning not to hook up to the sewer. What's that? You have a petition to . Yeah. To . Extend the sewer. Eliminate your sewer hookup. No. No. They're extending the sewer. Yeah, we're bringing the sewer. Oh. Yeah. Right now, the sewer district, I believe it does not encompass the western most part. I misread it. I thought that they are extending the sewer to connect the entire . . . Mike Reichel's on board with that. He's happy. He likes that. Yeah. It's right on the corner of the property already. So we're going to . . . It's across the street, I think. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Now, these six lots are all . . . STILL INDEPENDENT LOTS TAX, RIGHT? YES, THEY'RE INDEPENDENT TAX. AND YOU GUYS OWN ALL SETS? ALL OF THEM, YEAH. IT WAS ALL ONE PURCHASE. IT CAME AS ONE PURCHASE. OKAY. FROM BLACKMAN. YOU WOULD HAVE TO MAKE IT ALL ONE LOT? AGAIN, YEAH. ONE GOOD TAX. THAT'S WHAT WE GOTTA DO? YEAH, IT'LL BE ONE TAX. YEAH. I'D RATHER DO THAT. MM-HMM. MM-HMM. SO THE QUESTION AT THIS POINT BEFORE THE BOARD, ARE YOU OKAYING THE USE OF THE PERVIOUS PAPERS? BECAUSE THAT WILL DICTATE WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN PROCESS THE APPLICATION EVEN BEFORE THE BOARD. I AM BASICALLY OKAY WITH IT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO VINNY GUARDIELLO AND GET HIS OPINION ALSO. ALL RIGHT. I'M PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. I WANT TO SEE HIS REPORT. I'M NOT GOOD WITH THAT. I'D RATHER SEE IT SHRINK A LITTLE BIT AND THEN HAVE MORE LAND AROUND IT. THAT CAN ABSORB THE WATER TO GET THEM WITHIN THE LIMIT. I THINK WHAT WE SHOULD DO IS SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT THE ZONING BOARD APPEALS. WELL, SO BEFORE WE GO, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING TO DO TO REVEAL

We want you to proceed with the application as it's proposing the, you know, the 46.4% impervious. The board has to okay that. I'm okay with the pay raise because it's pervious. I believe we have three yeses. Strip all guys, yes or no? No. Yeah, no. No. Yeah, I'm not opposed because, I mean, this property's on the railroad tracks. You know, on top of all that, so. Sure. And like I said, Vinnie and Drew, both from an engineering standpoint, with some storage, slight storage modification, they okayed the concept. So it wasn't an engineering issue. Okay. So if we've got three yeses, we can proceed again. I still need a full and accurate EAF before we can classify the action before they even get to the zoning board. So, and the board has to make a determination of significance before the zoning board can act. So it's not like getting. The zoning board is just the key of the door. Just down the road a bit. Yeah. Yeah. Anybody got anything else?

Okay. Find my agenda, one more time. All right. Okay, guys. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you very much. See you again. Sure. That's right. You got it, man. I'll get you the EAF back there. Okay. Let's move on to our third discussion item. Talk to farmers. Talk to farmers. Talk to farmers. Talk to farmers. Talk to farmers. Talk to farmers. Talk to farmers. Talk to farmers. Talk to farmers. Talk to farmers.

on the Sandy Pond Mix mini golf course site plan application. Back at the first meeting in February, the board granted preliminary approval for the construction of the 18-home mini golf course associated parking area, and it was a small attendant kiosk. There were a number of conditions in that preliminary approval. This is just a follow-up. The applicant did submit the final application Tuesday afternoon. I do apologize. I had to take a sick day yesterday, otherwise I would have had the resolution prepared earlier. But all the conditions were met. The biggest one that was out there were two outstanding ones. One was the... the stormwater pollution prevention plan. The applicant did review that with the town engineer. It was determined that a stormwater pollution prevention plan was not required. So that crossed off that box. And then there was the outstanding final site plan fee, which, again, because there was illegal clearing done on the property, that site plan fee was doubled. So the applicant submitted the necessary information to the planning department on Tuesday afternoon. He was over here for a... We have a... Final approval resolution. There was one slight modification. I believe Member Zilnicki was speaking with the applicant. So there was a slight relocation of the entrance driveway. It moved slightly south. Again, still just one curb cut. It's about 150 feet south. 150 feet south. So it'll move it further away from that intersection of Joyce Drive. Slight modification. Again, doesn't change the substance of the site plan. They still meet the requisite parking. So we do have a final approval resolution on. There are a couple of conditions in there that need to be met prior to building permit, prior to the issuance of a CO. One of them being the recording of CNRs in the property, the covenants and restrictions, which restrict the hours of operation to say the mini golf course will close at 10 p.m. That was a condition of the town board granting the special permit. It was carried through in the board's preliminary approval resolution and the formalization of the drainage easement on the property. Right now, the board may recall, there are stormwater pipes that go from Roanoke Avenue and actually discharge stormwater into one of the water features on the golf course. As I understand, this was done probably between 20 or 30 years ago. I think it was maybe just a handshake deal. So this is an opportunity to formalize that drainage easement. That was it. There will be key money prior to the issuance of the CO for the Riverhead Water District and Health Department. As I understand, Young & Young submitted information. They did just recently update their sanitary system. I just want confirmation that the system is sized appropriately for the use.

So we have the final approval resolution on. If the board has any other questions. I have no questions. I think we're good. Kim, with the miniature golf, the only bathrooms are back at the pro shop? Yes. Right, the existing pro shop? Yes. Will there be future bathrooms closer? Yes. In the future, yes. Because as you know, with little kids, it's a long way to hold it. Kim, could you state your name for the record? Kimberly Judd, 737 Roanoke Avenue, Riverhead, New York, for the applicants. Thank you. So the applicants, so the board's aware that the property owner will be back before the board here. Sometime soon, they did submit a special permit for an expansion of a future clubhouse. The reason that was not considered when we had the mini golf application submitted was because at that point, the owner hadn't yet taken title. So they did not have the ability. The owners of the property at that time would not give Mr. Stark authorization to make an application for the clubhouse. So it wasn't that we were segmenting the reviewers, that they were unable to actually make the application. It wasn't within their power. So they have submitted that application for that. That future clubhouse, which will be in proximity to the mini golf course, and that's likely where additional restroom facilities will be. So when they get that approval, then they'll own the entire property? So the... We closed on it on December 22nd. So my client, Sandy Ponlings, purchased the property from Riverhead Cement Block Company on December 22nd of this past year. So they now do own the property, so now they're... Able to make those... And he was acting as a contract vendee? Yes. We were the applicant, and actually, the Buchholz family had to sign the owner's endorsement for this application for the mini golf course.

Anything else, anybody? Okay. Thank you very much. Hurry up so I can break 100. It's a team of holes. Thank you for hearing us. Public comment. Any other resolutions? Anybody?

Gentlemen, let's go to resolutions, please. I move resolution number 26 for extra space in Riverhead. Second. Moved and seconded. May we have a vote, gentlemen? Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Nenero? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote aye. Motion carries. I move resolution 2024-27 for Sandy Pon Mini Golf to... Second. Moved and seconded. May we have a vote, please? Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Nenero? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote aye. Motion carries. Resolution 2024-028, Long Island Color Flower Association, Commercial Center. Resolution granting six months extension of preliminary site approval for a site plan application. Second. Moved and seconded. May we have a vote, please? Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Nenero? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote aye. Motion carries. Second. SECOND. MAYBE WE HAVE A VOTE, PLEASE. MR. ZELNICKI. YES. MR. Hogan. YES. MR. NANERO. AYE. MR. BEHR. YES. AND I VOTE AYE. THE MOTION CARRIES. PUBLIC COMMENTS ON ANY ISSUES AT ALL? NOT LOOKING GOOD. STAND UP AT ONCE. WE HAVE NO MINUTES OF THE MEETINGS. ANY OTHER BUSINESS STAFF? ANY OTHER BUSINESS MEMBERS? NO. KENNY, DO YOU HAVE ANY UPDATE ON THE DRIVEWAY OF THE TERRY PROPERTY ON RENO? I SPOKE TO BOB ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO, AND AS SOON AS THE WEATHER CLEARS AND HE WANTS TO MOVE IT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN I WAS THERE, THREE TRUCKS WERE PULLING OUT, AND IT DOES GET DUSTY IN THAT AREA, SO I WILL STOP AND SEE HIM AGAIN. ALL RIGHT. KEEP US UPDATED. OKAY. IF NOTHING ELSE NEEDS TO BE TAKEN CARE OF BUSINESS-WISE, WE CAN CLOSE THE MEETING. WE'LL SEE YOU THE NEXT PLANNING BOARD BUSINESS DAY WILL BE APRIL 4TH, AT 6 P.M. WE CAN MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE? SO MOVED. SECOND. MOVED AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. MOTION CARRIES.

TO DO SO, TO DO SO, TO DO SO. TO DO SO, TO DO SO. Thank you.