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Thank you. Thank you. Good evening, everybody. Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the Thursday, May 2nd, 2024 Planning Board meeting. This is the advertised time and the advertised place. If you could please stand and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. We have no public hearings tonight, so we're going to go right into discussion items. Item number one is the Vincent Franchini Minor Subdivision. Good evening, everyone. For the record, Heather Toczanski, Planner. This is just a quick update on the subdivision application. We had first discussed this back in November in Classified Secre. They did need relief from the Zoning Board of Appeals for lot size, and then for setbacks for the existing single-family dwelling on proposed lot one. And I just wanted to give a brief overview since Ken was not on the board last year. This is a two-lot minor subdivision on a parcel of land located at 196 South Jamesport Avenue in Jamesport, more particularly identified as Suffolk County Tax Grant number 600-91-2-2.2. And they're proposing to subdivide it into two lots. Lot one would contain the existing single-family, dwelling and be 23,720 square feet, and lot two would be a vacant residential building lot containing 33,433 square feet. The subject parcel is within the Residence B40 Zoning Use District. So as I had said, they did require relief from the Zoning Board of Appeals for lot size. By determination 2024-001, the Zoning Board did grant the requested relief, but with numerous conditions. I provided everyone. On the board with a copy of the determination. So at this point, we need to move forward and schedule a public hearing. So I just have a resolution on today to schedule that public hearing for June 6th. When they do the two-lot minor, is that going to change the character of the area or is it going to be equivalent to what's there now? I mean, I think a lot of the surrounding lots are actually smaller than what proposed lot two will be. So in terms of size, no. Okay. But we, you know, they did need the relief from the Zoning Board, which was granted. So I think that's going to be an ideal schedule. Does anyone else have any other questions? Nope. Alright. We'll save them for the public hearing then. Thank you. Thank you. Item number two, Cliff Road re-worts, discussion of a coastal hazard area permit. Matt Charters? How you doing? Hello? The record, Matt Charters, senior planner with the town of Overhead. We do have Carl Fritz here. Carl, you can come up. He's the applicant's design professional. Oh, okay. He's the engineer. He's the engineer. He's the engineer. He's the engineer. He's the engineer. He's the engineer. He's the engineer. He's the engineer. He's the engineer. He's the engineer. He's the engineer. Let me just ask you a quick question because I was a little confused when I read it. Okay. Are they replacing the existing retaining wall? Yes, in kind. Yep. Why? I think it's starting to fail. Yeah, it's failing. It is failing. It's at least 30 years old. It's just, it's time. So before the erosion gets any worse, they're going to replace it. Carl, if you can just introduce yourself. I'm Carl Fritz. I'm the engineer on the project. Thank you. All right, so this is 219 application. It's a 55-foot retaining wall at 84 Cliff Road, East Nguyen River. As we just described, pretty straightforward. This is just replacing the retaining wall that's there in kind. We did refer this to the town engineer. He did have some comments. There's an existing small staircase that kind of goes down as well. It will not be replaced. No staircase? It doesn't go anywhere. So that's not going to be on the plan. That's a good clarification. And Drew also did ask for a revegetation. Revegetation plan in the area that you're disturbing. Right, so this is going to be grassy. Grass put back down. That should be fine. And if you're doing any, if there's going to be any disturbance in the bluff area, we'll just ask you to plant some native plantings, but I can tell you what should go in there. It's pretty straightforward. They got an NJ from DEC because it's above the crest of the bluff. Other than that, this is pretty straightforward approval in kind in place. Okay. None of the construction or final product will inhibit the public's use of that? Yeah. Be truncated? Solely on private property, private property on either side. All the work's going to take place in the yard, done by hand. They'll actually be anchoring with concrete dead men, so it'll be a little bit more secure than what's there. And a balanced cut and fill. So other than that, we have a draft resolution to classify it as a type 2 and to issue the performance. If the board has any questions. I have no questions. Anybody? Nobody? No. Okay. Very good. When I was looking at the... at the drawings yeah existing it looks pretty good yeah you know i guess you can't see the leaks no yeah and the pictures that you can see i was up there um last week it's a little needs a little work it's time yeah okay all right okay all right guys thank you okay all right moving right along uh number three is a discussion item uh regarding traffic patterns on second and third street we kind of have an issue with parking on second street there's also traffic stalls on second street so we have an idea to discuss the possibility of making second and third streets one ways um i did i drew up a little drawing that said uh eastbound but i uh greg had a better idea uh i i said westbound one way on second street greg thought it made more sense to go eastbound on second street but really we you know we want to get input from the board and staff on whether it's a good idea to descend to the town board or or not i think we could do a little bit more research for you i know greg did do a little write-up and he looked at everywhere in the downtown in that area that has parking restrictions now um and we can get that to the board and probably a draft letter if you guys want to transmit or not uh to the town board well there's only one there's only parking on one side third both second two second also

and maybe that's a consideration that you guys could transmit maybe have parking on both sides on third street to capture something yeah absolutely yeah absolutely i think that's why i mentioned that yeah greg had yeah greg had done some research on the municipal lot that sort of old firehouse building and the parking isn't um you know the great like it's not delineated the greatest so he uh had come up with sort of a mock drawing and something that we'll probably have to go over i'm assuming with engineering because they do all the road striping and stuff um but if we were to get that lot cleaned up you realize that it would alleviate parking maybe do one single curve cut on third street greg was looking at that too just for better flow of traffic can he do that a rough estimate on second and third street we could add about 15 stalls if you made it one one if you made it one way all right so we know there's a parking garage coming but that's probably a couple of few years away so this could be a band-aid or it could be permanent whatever i think it's a bad idea at least to consider yeah we don't make policy but if we feel it's a good idea we support it we'll send it to the town board they can send it to traffic and safety and they'll do their job i don't know if it's possible to see why they put a parking only on one side on third street because it's you'd have to probably look at it yeah we'll look at that you have that new building there with uh what is it four apartments yeah so they'll probably need some overflow parking so the dual side would certainly make that a lot easier to live with and so what i was talking about with ken before we meet a lot of people don't know is now that we have this building we have a ton of parking that's very unpopular underutilized so i think once more people know about here and you can park here after hours it'll help a lot maybe get some people off the street and this was this lot was used for when they had the country fair because when i came to pick my stuff up at the end of the day i parked here walked right down it was very very easy yeah i'll look in the code because we have a whole chapter on parking restrictions and we can see when everything was added so i'll find out when it was added on third street maybe if you dig out some legislative intent with kevin uh with our new parking management consultant he might be a good resource i think that's a good idea yeah yeah you know looking at this concept yeah and just to take a look at that uh the public parking area there next to the old firehouse yeah see what can be done there because i just think that that if that's striped properly you might yeah correct did a pretty good uh yeah like that's a good sketch with some angled part it's very big it's just not it's not laid out well yeah it's not utilized but it should be yeah all right all right so staff could look at it at a little bit and let us know your feelings and we'll do a little work up for you okay great anybody else nope nope okay that ends the sketch discussion items and there's nobody in the audience so we're not gonna have any public comments all right you want to move the resolutions i'll move uh resolution 2024 034 for vincent frankie minor subdivision schedule a public hearing so moved second moved in second may we have a vote please yes mr zelnicki yes mr hogan yes mr nonero hi mr bear yes and i vote aye uh motion carries uh resolution 2024 035 uh resolution granting chapter uh 219 coastal erosion hazard area permit for in-kind emplacement replacement of an existing 55-foot wooden retaining wall so second moving in second may we have a vote please mr zelnicki yes mr hogan yes mr nunez and nero hi mr bear yes and i vote aye motion carries uh i'd ask for public comments on all matters but there's nobody here um can we get somebody to move the minutes of the fourth okay second moving and seconded may we have a vote all in favor all right all opposed other business staff department of law anybody okay um no cars for the next meeting date is thursday may 16th at 3 p.m uh thank you everybody i would say good job staff but you guys didn't do much tonight it's because greg's not here all right have a good one everybody thank you you

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