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It is the Manor Lane Minor Subdivision with Heather Trojanowski. And once again, this is a minor subdivision application. It was called Manor Lane. The name on the map is JETS 139 LLC. So just for clarification, this is for tax map number 600-8-3-7.3 located at 139 Sound Avenue in Jamesport. We did receive the affidavit of posting and mailing the receipts, proof that the posters were put up on the property. This is a public hearing for the subdivision application which seeks approval to subdivide a 5.037 acre parcel into two separate lots. Proposed lot one is to contain 2.4393 acres. And proposed lot two is to contain 2.5977 acres. Again, located at 139 Sound Avenue in Jamesport within the APZ zoning use district. And the subdivision map also includes an existing parcel, which is tax map number 600-8-3-7.4. It's labeled as lot three on the map, which is a 19.6721 acre parcel. And the development rights are currently in the ! ! The development rights are currently sold to Suffolk County. So they're just incorporating that into the map to formalize it. Anybody have any questions? I have a question. On your, oh I'm sorry, go ahead. I was just going to make a comment if I may. First I just wanted to thank Heather because she helped us greatly with putting these subdivisions together, the two of them. But I wanted to point out to the board, and I think the public should know this, that the subdivision is a lot of land that is now preserved with farm development rights sold. And I think that's significant to note. I just think the town of Riverhead, Mr. Cuddy, really appreciates that, you know, from the chicken hours family. This is an old farm family that's kept the farms. Yep. Yep. Chair, do you have anything to add? I think that the the [transcription gap] the [transcription gap] part when I was highlighting the parcels the development rights sold parcel is entirely 837.4 so that's its own tax map number and then 837.3 is a separate tax map number yeah okay so that so that line is should be up for it yeah it should probably up a little bit further north um the subdivision map itself is accurate that was done by a licensed surveyor so that shows the property lines okay that's that's all I have thank you okay I move we close the public hearing from Adelaide minor subdivision so moved second yeah well please all right all right all right

okay next up discussion items we have Cordova drive drive-through restaurant conversion with Heather Trojanowski and I think we have a representative for the application here come up and state your name

good afternoon my name is Jacqueline Peranto I'm with Key Civil Engineering located at 664 Blue Point Road, Holdsville, New York site engineer for the applicant okay just a brief overview this is a site plan application seeking approval to convert an existing 4,268 square foot restaurant into two separate tenancies one will be for a Cordova drive-thru restaurant and then the other will be for an unspecified sit-down restaurant in addition they will be constructing 215 square foot and 107 square foot cooler boxes on the on the rear of the building site improvements include facade renovations parking lot and paving and paving improvements which are the site is in dire need of new site lighting and a significant amount of landscaping the subject property is a 40,000 and 404 square foot parcel currently improved with a restaurant building everyone is probably familiar with friendlies associated parking landscape and lighting it's located at 949 Old Country Road in Riverhead it's about 450 feet east of the traffic circle the intersection of Old Country Road and Roanoke Avenue it's within the business center zoning use district where restaurants and drive-through windows which are accessory to restaurant uses are permitted the surrounding uses include the hospital and Burger King across the street to the north KFC directly to the west so that's the just a brief overview the proposed improvements they'll be converting the existing restaurant building doing a lot of parking lot reconfiguration to accommodate the drive-through the western portion of the building will be for Cadova I'm sorry the eastern portion part of the building will be for Cadova with 38 indoor seats and eight outdoor seats and also the drive-through the western portion of the building will be for the unspecified sit-down restaurant with 50 seats exterior renovations include a whole new storefront for Cadova new finishes and decorative elements and then the western side of the building will be painted to match the gray finishes on the Cadova portion obviously when a tenant comes in if they look to make it additional facade renovations they'll come back to us for approval and also ARB review the proposed action is unlisted pursuant to SECRA with coordinated review being optional not recommended the proposed action is unlisted pursuant to SECRA with coordinated review being optional not recommended So I do have two resolutions on today for this project. One to classify SECRA without the need for court interview and issue a negative declaration. And then another to schedule a public hearing. So just to go through some of the key points in my staff report, I'll note there's existing cross-access to the KFC property to the west that actually goes all the way out across the other properties to Roanoke Avenue. And this application proposes a future cross-access easement on the southern property boundary. It used to be Tire Country. It's now just an auto repair shop. It's an L-shaped parcel, so there's already an access driveway for people to utilize that tire shop, auto repair shop, through the Friendly site on the eastern property boundary. This would just look to create an additional point of cross-access on the southern property boundary. That way, if the site gets built out in the future, there's a little bit better room for circulation. As far as parking is concerned, they are proposing 35 stalls, including two accessible stalls. The number of stalls based on the amount of seats that are proposed complies with town code parking requirements. They're also proposed to be 10 by 20, again, which complies with the town code parking requirements. As far as queuing is concerned, I noticed that they show parking for 10 vehicles starting at the order pickup window. I'm not a traffic engineer. Nor am I a site designer or representative from Cordova. So I don't know what their needs are as far as queuing. But I know with Chick-fil-A, the question came up on that site plan where queuing starts, whether it's at the order board, order pickup. I will note that if we were to designate the order board for the queuing, the starting for queuing, there would be enough room for six vehicles. So my concern was that if traffic backs up into the parking lot, there might be some conflicting movements. I'm sure Jackie can sort of give a better overview of that because she knows the project. I'm just talking like that because Starbucks has that same problem in Riverhead because the line gets so long that they lose half their parking spaces. Yeah, I know. They're a much busier operation, I think. Yeah. So if you want to go ahead. Thank you. I appreciate your report. It was very thorough. I'm taking that up on the site plan. So I went through some of the key points. I think I'll start with the drive-thru. So the drive-thru is a new concept for Qdoba. There's actually none currently in the northeast. What is Qdoba? It's a Mexican fast food restaurant. It's casual fast, I think is the term they use. So they, similar to like a Chipotle, I would say, where you would go up and, you know, make your burrito or your taco kind of down the line of your toppings and so forth. So they, the restaurant franchisee that's running the Qdoba are Burger Brothers. They actually operate the Burger King across the street from this location. So you might be familiar with it. They run a very nice and clean operation. They've done some improvements on that property as well. So they're looking to develop the Qdobas on Long Island. And this drive-thru is a new concept. Yeah. Yeah. So the first drive-thru that will be constructed, they've just received approval from the town of Babylon for one in Deer Park. That's looking to open in March of 2025. Also working with them on another one in Babylon in Lindenhurst, which is just starting an approval process. So that might be in 2026. So these would be, this would be the third one on, in the northeast actually, Long Island. So because it is a new concept, there's a lot of people that are interested in it. There's not a lot of transactional data that's available for them to see how it's going to be utilized, how people are going to feel about using a drive-thru, you know, for their concept. They, as I said, operate Burger Kings and have been for many, many years. So they're familiar with, you know, the operations of a drive-thru and how it would function. We, they feel and I feel that the drive-thru queue is sufficient. We do have a total of 10 from the pickup window, which is very consistent with a lot of the requirements. And other surrounding municipalities in terms of what they require for drive-thru queues associated with fast food restaurants. I would say this concept is not anywhere near what a Starbucks would generate or what a Chick-fil-A would generate. I did look at providing angled parking. I actually prepared an alternate concept to just see what it would look like. So we currently, along the western property line, we're proposing perpendicular, which is 11 stalls. If I were to angle it, I would have to go to the west. So I would have to go to the west. And if I were to angle those parking stalls, I result in six. So the loss of parking would put me in a variance situation. Right now our project is as of right, which is how we would like it to be maintained. It also, in my opinion, you know, it might allow some vehicles to be able to back out. But I think it would still have that same concern that the perpendicular parking might, should cars continue to queue around. I think the benefit of where I located the pickup window and the way that we situated the site for the drive-through is that if there was a little bit of a backup, the problem is contained on their property. It's an impact to their own customers and their own parking. It's not going to spill out onto a roadway. It's not going to impact public traffic. So we feel that, you know, this is going to work and function adequately. So for those reasons, I also am not a fan of combining two-way and one-way traffic. I find that customers get confused. When you have this intermix of one-way and two-way traffic. So my preference is to maintain the two-way traffic around the entire site, especially with all the cross-access and the way vehicles are coming from the west off Roanoke, etc. So our preference would be to maintain the layout as we show. I will note that as far as the site layout is concerned, this did get referred over to the Fire Marshal's office. And beyond needing the proper Fire Marshal construction, you know, and or fire sprinkler permits, they didn't have any other concerns. So I will note that as far as circulation and fire access is concerned, they were fine with it. So by your own admission, you were saying, you know, this is a new concept. My question is this. Can you double stack these cars side by side? If there's a if what do we do if you have to go back and get, I don't know, the restaurant tacos. So what happens? We let the line build up or do we have enough room? For overflow to one side? What do we have to park them? What do you do with the over there if their products not ready at the time? You get to the window? Yeah, they would be able to research like make a right. They can you turn around that island where the nine parking stalls are and they can pull into a spot? I've you know, a lot of fast food restaurants will do that where they'll provide a spot for the car to park and then, you know, run out with the product. Okay, how many is on that one side? I don't remember. It's not exactly nine. That's the total. Okay. Handicap parking. There is handicap parking. We're providing two. We have it located on the eastern side. The reason I didn't want ADA to have to cross across the drive through lane on the west side. Yeah, I'm sorry. On the west side. Yeah, they have an accessible pathway to get to the restaurant and or the badova on your on your site plan. You're showing future cross access to the south. To the south. But you said it is already it is already there. No, there's cross access at the northeast corner of the property. Yeah, that goes to the deckers into the tire place. I actually had a initial meeting with Heather and Greg when we started the project and it was the town's recommendation that we provide that future cross access for I guess the potential development of that L property. I think if that L property were to be redeveloped the southern cross access is the better location. I think that would be a great way to get that L property back. Is the better location to access that parcel than its current location because it's very close to our curb cut off Old Country Road. It's not a big user. They don't get a lot of traffic the tire place. So I think it functions okay now, but should they be redeveloped? I think they should have their cross access where they have a built that structure that he that that extension. I don't believe so. Because that was that was we allowed for that. Because that's, that would utilize that space and make that space now utilized. And they were supposed to expand the use of that store. The owner of the property purchased area in the back of it. So that was to be used for cross access at that time. So that's never been done. I don't think the extension was ever built on the former the former tire country property. Right now they have some vehicles. Back there, but it's, you know, undeveloped and mainly wooded on that spin. It's been there for it's been like half a long time. Okay. Heather, just a couple of questions. You're going to be losing 22 parking stalls because of the drive thru. You said, there's still enough parking. Yeah, so per town code section, it's 301 231. A, it's one stall is required for every three seats. For a restaurant. Friendly has had a significant. I think. Yes. Like 158. Seats. Yeah. It's like a significant number of seats. Yeah. They had five. Handicap parking spots. Also. Right. It's a. It's a function of the total parking provided. So. What. What. We are providing. Is. Compliant. With. The. State. Building. Code. You. Have. More. Than. Two. You. Have. Two. Extra. Stalls. You're. In. Excess. Of. Yeah. Okay. Then. Yeah. We're. Actually. Lowering. Water. Demand. Savit.ary. Demand. Because. There. Is. A. Total. reduction. of. 25. is compliant with the state building code. You have two extra stalls you're in excess of. We're actually lowering water demand, sanitary demand, because there's a total reduction in number of seats from the friendlies to the two proposed restaurants. I do want to mention one thing. I was speaking to the client in preparation for today and he is looking to possibly increase the seats in Quidoba by eight. It would still meet the parking, but it would put us right at the required. We would then require 35 and provide 35. We have eight outside. Currently there's eight outside and 38 inside. He's looking to put 46 inside and maintain the eight outside. That would be something that we would like to revise prior to the formal public hearing. You have proposed the crosswalk for the handicap on the west side. Is there any way of putting a crosswalk on the east side for the people that are walking so they don't have to you understand what I'm saying? For the safety of people walking from the nine stalls on the east side to the entrance in front of Quidoba. Yeah, I do. I can certainly pull that stop bar back a little bit. I would want to put it in front of the stop bar instead of behind it. Well, just some type of crosswalk that the car is driving know that there are potential people walking through. Sure, absolutely. We can do that. You know, with some type of a curve cut so you're not stepping on a curve. Yeah, we'll we were trying to maintain a lot of landscaping, but we have an end island with a tree on it. See what I mean, Heather? Rachel? Yeah. The people who are parking on those nine stalls have to walk all the way to the front. Create a little path. Right. I'm going to have to lose a little landscaping in that end island to create the crosswalk. Just a thought. You said that you would be providing eight more spaces? No, it was seats. Seats inside the restaurant? Inside the restaurant, which would require 35 parking spaces of which we provide 35 parking spaces. You have 35? Yeah, they're in excess parking stall-wise with the seats that they're currently proposing. If they were to increase it, they would be right at their parking requirement. One other question. In the rear of the building, is there any type of ramp people are going to be taking the garbage out from the restaurants? They also have to cross the traffic. Because, you see what I'm saying? I do. Is there any type of sidewalk? A, um, you know, a crosswalk? Otherwise, somebody, you know, taking the garbage out may have to wait until one car lets them go through. Sure. We could certainly add a little bit of a connection and a crosswalk there just so that the vehicles are aware. I'll also provide a little sidewalk connection in the small island between the drive-thru and the... Because the garbage containers are all the way over on the east side of the building. That's the existing location? Right. [transcription gap] So, we could kind of take out two plants there and just create that connection. That's what I was thinking also. Um, I think they... What about providing something on the east side for handicap? One of those stalls? Um, we could potentially do that. It's more than needed, but, um... Well, just technically, if somebody has to, wants to go to your restaurant and needs, assistance, there isn't any. There is. Um, I mean, there's two spaces that are provided with a proper access. On the west side? On the west side. Yeah. With the handicap ramp and access, you know, to the front doors. Again, I just... I don't... I didn't... I don't love crossing the drive-thru, so by putting the handicap there, you're encouraging someone to park there and, you know, and they're disabled in a form. So, I just felt it was safer to put them... But there's going to be nine other people there. Understood. In that spot. Mm-hmm. So, what's the difference? They got to cross... They got to cross the traffic, too. Mm-hmm. Okay, I'll take a look at some of the other, you know, restaurants in the area. I've looked at them on near maps just to see how the drive... It's only because you have two... There's two facilities. Yeah. But I'll look to see where their stalls are located. Yeah. Okay. And then you're... That would be a loss of one stall, so we can just tweak those parking... the seats to... No, you're not losing a stall. You would. You'd lose a stall for the Stripe stall. Yeah. If you need the accessible aisle. Yeah, so you'd lose one parking stall, which is not a big deal. We can... If that's the board's position, we can comply. Your outdoor seating is in front of the other store. Yeah. Yeah, it's the... You know, the shape of the building and the configuration is existing, so they're kind of, you know, working with that condition as opposed to demolishing and modifying the structure itself. I mean, could it go either way to where... Quidova doesn't seem that they may not be using it. Could the other store take it over? I'm just thinking just... From a health department standpoint, I mean, they're looking at the site as a whole, so I mean, the number of seats is the number of seats. Oh, so it doesn't matter. It doesn't necessarily matter, but Quidova is their focus, so... And they like the outdoor seating, and they want the drive-through. They don't yet know what will be the other tenant. It's an experiment. Okay. So, yeah, so... But that's my point. It could be used for either tenant. It could, yeah. Okay. I just want to mention loading. Yeah, I mentioned that in my staff report about, you know, where delivery vehicles would be loading and unloading and what times. So, yeah, I did speak... So, typically, the... So, again, with the Quidova, they can control their deliveries a little bit more with the tenant that they have not yet... I'm not sure what will be. It's hard to do. But typically, these deliveries will come very early in the morning, and it's about a 20- to 30-minute offload for the truck to, you know, deliver. So what will most likely happen is it's going to park behind the island, behind the drive-through lane. That is a wide island. It's about 29 feet in width. So if a truck was parked there, you'd still be able to get vehicles by. You'd still be able to back out of the parking stalls. I did look at providing a loading space, which we can accommodate. It would be located on the east side of the property, opposite those nine parking stalls, but it would eliminate the landscaping. So basically, between those two light poles that we're showing, we would eliminate the row of shrubs and evergreens that we have there to provide the loading. So I think we prefer the landscaping. We prefer to keep it this way, but I did want to just mention that. Actually, like you just said, right along that curbing in the back, because you have 20... Yeah. 28 feet of the 8 to 10-foot width of a truck, you still have 20 feet passing. Yeah. But that's where that concrete pad comes in on the two exit doors in the back. Yeah. Because that would also take care of your loading also. Yeah. So I'm going to extend a sidewalk from those two doors. Yeah, I would think that would be a more ideal location for someone to load and unload rather than parking on the east side and having to come all the way around. Right. What are the operating hours of the restaurant? They do serve breakfast. I don't want to misquote it, so I will get back to that. They do serve breakfast. But they do serve breakfast. Right here. Yeah. You know, good for loading. They serve two purposes. Yeah. If we don't have any other questions... I just have one, and that has to do with the health department. Sure. Are you able to meet all the loans requirements? Yes, we are. We actually received the approval from Riverhead Sewer District, so I was kind of waiting for that to address the health department. I'll go through the comments, see if there were any other comments, but we're going to be working on that next week and resubmitting back to the health department. I don't see any concerns with the comments they've made. Are they requiring two separate lines now? Leaving the building? Yeah. No. One for each building? No. No. And they're sharing a grease trap. Now the fencing that's in the rear of it, you're going to be replacing all that? No. We were not planning to replace the fencing in the rear. That's all leaning down? It's all wavy gravy? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, some of the fencing is on the other, the tire property parcel near where the proposed future cross access is. All of that fencing is on their property. So, I mean, if that's, you know, a property maintenance issue, we can see if code enforcement can take a look at the fence. When I was out there, some of the sections of the fence, like there were some leaning, but I think the majority of them were where they had some of those cars stored on the other property. Where they were leaning away from the friendlies. Yeah, it's leaning, right, it's leaning towards the woods there with the vacant land in the back. I think it's unclear who owns that fence, if it's the tire property or the subject property. It's the owner of the property. That's a separate message. No, my client is a tenant. They're leasing. They're not the owner. I'm sorry? The, my client. Oh, no, no, I know, I know. You know, so I'm talking about the one next door, the one to the east. The property owner there owns that. That slice of land, he bought that. He bought that. It was one of those things where he bought. And if I remember correctly, he had agreed to, with the plans, he had agreed to replace that fence. So. So then that's his. But it's never been done. So. Right. The original tenant moved. So that may be a dead issue now. Just with all the work that you're doing there, that fence, it looks, it's so, it looks so bad, you know. And it's kind of like. It's a privacy fence, but it's not really affording a lot of privacy. Right. It is. I'll look at it with my client and see if maybe he wants to put a new fence in front of it. You know, I don't know that he can touch this one. But maybe there's something that can be placed. And now those 15 spots are going to be used more because of what you took out. I know there has to be quite a bit of maintenance done. And Heather, those, those lighting, are they new lighting or are they existing lighting? The poles that are in. In the picture of my, in my staff report, that's existing. They're replacing everything. So all of the lighting fixtures as far as color, temperature, height, they'll be compliant with the dark sky code. But I think this is like one of maybe two or three, I guess, former parking, you know, the lighting that, I don't know if they fell off, if they were removed, but it's just the foundation right now. Right, right. So yeah, all the proposed lighting will be. Right. Right. Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. [transcription gap] want to use that base for yeah they were gonna reuse the light pole bases and just mount new poles and heads they'll repaint them and clean them up I know I remember them the comments that the wires are just kind of hanging out there are they hot I referred this over to engineering town engineer had no comments the drainage that's on site is sufficient based on you know the new parking configuration and then the sewer district did send that memo July 25th of 2024 so after the Health Department came back with their initial comments the sewer district sent their letter saying that it's located within the boundaries of the sewer district and Connection is available so you know you'll be able to button up the Health Department and I get my my biggest thing with this site plan is the landscaping improvements. They're doing a great job sort of beefing up the landscaping along 58. There's existing hedgerows there and a couple of street trees, one of which I think is probably dead. I took a picture of it and put it my staff report. They're willing to sort of assess that and replace it if necessary, but they're doing a nice job improving the landscaping. A lot of the foundation plantings along the outside walls of Friendly's are growing into the sidewalks. It's not kept up very well. So as far as landscaping is concerned, it'll be a great improvement. Even the trees that are between the KFC and the Friendly's, they need to be pruned up higher because they're leaning on the cars when the cars were parked up against them. Yeah, so those and... We can make some notes on our plan to make sure that they get pruned. They will be protected during construction because they're going to remain. I mean, other than that, does the board have any other questions? Just one, Heather. At the end of the... What's there now, at the end of the parking on the west side, the curving is just blocked up, half circled. Are they going to replace that with... We were planning to maintain that condition. Maintain exactly what's there, only because now it looks like if you accidentally went too far, you would just go over that. It almost looks like a big speed bump. On the west side... Yeah, were they like sort of... It's like an asphalt curve. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We were planning to just maintain that condition. It's similar along the rear as well. It's just sort of an edge of pavement, a rolled asphalt curve. I think, you know, because they are leasing the property and they don't own the property, is sort of their, you know, is to maintain some of those conditions. Right. Does anybody else have anything? No. The board is good. We'll have this on resolution for SECRA and then also for public hearing. We will note it's going to the ARB at the end of this month, so we'll take a look at the proposed elevation. Sure. I did want to just ask, during ARB, the architect is out of state. Is it possible that he zooms into the ARB meeting? I don't know if they have a zoom component. I'll ask Matt about that because they're not typically recorded. So I'll follow up with him. He's back on Monday. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Okay. Do we have any public comments on the resolutions? I'll move resolution number 24, which is 057. Okay. Classifying unlisted action and negative declaration for SECRA, the site plan of Qdoba. Second. Vote please. Mr. Zanicki? Yes. Mr. Baer? Yes. Mr. Monaro? And I'm yes. Resolution adopted. I'll move resolution 2024-58 for Qdoba restaurant to schedule a public hearing for the site plan application. So moved. Second. Okay. Thank you. [transcription gap] modification second well please mr. Nick Sinecki yes yes I'm yes resolution adopted when is the public hearing it would be September 5th the atrium cafe adobo and then the lot line modification public hearing schedule for September okay I'm remove resolution 2024 0 6 0 for HK ventures LLC granting a six-month extension of the preliminary site plan approval so moved second vote please mr. Sinecki yes mr. bear yes mr. Nara I'm yes resolution adopted okay any public comments on matters we have the minutes of the meeting can we approve the minutes of July 18 so moved second vote this is a Nikki yes mr. bear yes I can error I mean yes any other business correspondence okay our next meeting is going to be Thursday September 5th 2024 at 6 p.m. motion to close so move aye aye you [transcription gap] you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you you