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[transcription gap] splash sneeze guards just a couple of things but that was about it really the restaurant yeah well like camera you know sneeze guards what if you could see the food yeah I listed all of that in my stair report actually yeah additionally you know final connection letter from the sewer district splash cards menu advisory allergen statement and sneeze guards those are that's what's listed on the certificate as approvals there is a dumpster that's going to be relocated from the southerly parking lot to the I guess I'll call it the central parking area they show it being fenced in I just made a note my staff report that they'll have to include a detail just to show that it complies with the screening requirements Town Code Chapter 245 dash 8 so a stockade fence no less than 5 feet but no more than 6 feet in height just to appropriately screen it wild about the wooden stockade there there's a lot of wood there there there there there there there there a chain link with the privacy or equivalent um would be fine so either wouldn't or chain link with the privacy slides yes usually we do we have so that detail will just need to be shown on revised plans um obviously the resolution that i have on for today is subject to uh quite a few conditions including approval from the arb again they're going next week um so the design professional will provide any material samples that the arab requires and if they do ask for changes they'll those will have to be shown on revised plans prior to signature of the plans is there any uh improved drainage in the new stalls um so they are showing two um air drainage areas in that new parking area um drew the town engineer did review that um i provided him with those details the only thing that he asked for was a soil boring or a test pit just groundwater just to check the depth um to groundwater to ensure two foot separation from the bottom of those drainage areas to groundwater and i think your test was just done yesterday okay so they're working on that um yeah other than that uh you know the water district i referred it over to them obviously uh key money will have to be assessed for the change of use um that will be taken care of you know prior to the issuance of uh you know approvals um they got that to hydraulic test that's been sent yeah so any correspondence that i received throughout this review i forwarded to mr asta and his team um the design professionals so they can get it taken care of uh concurrently other than that the fire marshal didn't have any comments on the proposed plan at this time obviously the interior alterations to fit out the restaurant are going to be subject to not only building permits but also fire marshal construction permits if you're doing fixed extinguishing anything like that will go through the fire marshal's office dark sky complaint yeah the lighting that they are proposing is all dark sky compliant um as far as the mounting height um temperature no light trespass onto adjacent properties so that'll be a nice upgrade to the site other than that does the board have any questions heather i just have a couple of questions uh your plan is there's seven new parking spots to the south part of the property and then you would still continue to use on the north side of the first masonry the all office building now that you'd so that would be shared parking with the restaurant how do you designate who parks where only because when you drive there now there was uh 19 cars parked back there in that area from the office building oh you mean from the school from the school um look it was like a first come first serve kind of thing i mean they have only two signs it says for they would need a total of six because you would be 19 and then 20 you need six of those spots designated just for that office i would put signs up for saying designated for the school right okay because you could put no you're going to be open for lunch yes so you will you know they'll be split yeah yeah and they're gone by like usually 4 30 they're always pretty much gone yeah so i don't think it'll be an issue at night um i know it isn't yeah it's one it is one parcel that just like with a shopping center or another parcel with multiple buildings on it you're looking at the site cumulatively in terms of the number of parking stalls but i do understand you know that the riverhead central school district office everybody parks in the central park as you can so you know even though someone let's say there was no parking here and they didn't want to park up front for the restaurant they could realistically park in that southern portion but it's not you know ideal for people who don't want to walk down right and if you don't want to designate what happens when every the office people park there all of them like like they will discuss with um there's one guy john there he's like kind of in charge right right i said once we we do the extended parking um but that's kind of what designate those areas specifically you know like the superintendent is there and so on right right so they'll always be in those spots um he says that's fine you know he so just the other side you're going to have kind of i'm i'm just afraid you're going to end up with hopefully people may be parking on the sidewalk or whatever it just i don't know it just you're running two businesses with just the amount of parking that you need also one other question is a is that a fire exit on the exit door on the south east corner there's a door there is that a fire exit heather you see that right here on the back of the building yes that i i we don't have um i think they provided floor plans but they weren't detailed construction plans so i'm i'm not just fire fire exits need a a right-of-way out to a clearing area you can't open up a fire exit to a stall yeah i mean i i don't know the distance requirements so on the top of my head it's typically based on occupancy i think that would be um hashed out through the building and fire marshal permitting processes you know you have your front entry which is the main entry and then you also have the that side door that leads directly to a concrete side that's your second means of egress that's fine yeah so I'm not I mean again I'm off the top my head I don't know how many would be required based on the size distance and occupancy look like that that area will be like that back door not I see we're talking about that's what a kitchen well we get you know just some stuff coming in and out so this will be the second egress for people sitting down in the restaurant part and if you get delivery you know if you have a parking area there and somebody's parking there and I you know do you get deliveries in that way somebody's got to move or are you more well the kid always just roll it around from the side either way use that side door if that was an issue and how far that would it concrete you know the bumpers be away from the building other they didn't show that measurement on the site you know like you're just saying that they you're gonna need them yes yeah that or bollards again something some sort of vehicle impact protection I'm actually surprised that there was nothing there when mattress firm was open but I guess they just were very busy so yeah in terms of the the site plan itself again it's a lot of them are existing conditions it's an existing site improved with two buildings it's sort of an anomaly because they're different uses but you know lighting is getting upgraded he's in excess of one parking stall the board doesn't have any other questions there are a lot of things that will you know I didn't speak to you about the possibility of a public hearing and I saw that F in thinking with afterwards I sort of think that we should have a public hearing I don't know how the rest of the board feels and I think it should be done it's like a short poll sure I'm opposed to have a public area you know if if Joe thinks but it's not a bad idea to have a public hearing but you know whatever mr. Hogan I have a public hearing okay so I have what the substance of public hearing what's that what is the substance of the public hearing gonna be it's it's essentially the reuse of an existing commercial building with constructing seven additional parking stalls I will note like we had the public hearing for Q Dover for the front lease building because they were making significant site changes including that drive-through and that was also classified as an unlisted action this is a type 2 action you know I'll note that we didn't have public hearings and I think it's a good thing that we have a public hearing for the riverhead Plaza application that came in I think the issue here is parking correct isn't that the biggest issue well my issue is that you had a mattress store which you might have you know five people at a time now you have a restaurant you're gonna have a lot more people yeah 50 you know 56 seats I don't see how a public hearing will change the amount of yeah no it's a reuse of a public area and I think it's a good thing that we have a public hearing and to me the public hearing is delay for the sake of delay what will change if we have a public hearing we can't add anything else we can't really subtract anything I just don't see the wisdom in but if you have three votes yeah yeah parking right what's that the parking is actually an access once all of the code required so I didn't have a public hearing so I didn't have a public hearing hearing resolution prepared so that would have to get voted on at the following meeting and I'd be willing to take it off the floor tonight if you want to stress something up possibility if someone wants to move a resolution off the floor to schedule a public hearing we can do that yeah yes if we were to schedule it I just have to figure out in terms of calendaring and getting legal notices submitted because for site plans it's a 10-day requirement out the Riverview's review only runs on Thursdays we have to have notices in the week prior it would have to it would have to be the October 17 that's what I thought because you're scheduling a public hearing today as well so yeah which would be an it would be an afternoon three o'clock meeting I mean it would afford the applicant the opportunity to get to the ARB and if they do have changes substantial changes that need to be made you can get it done and it would be a good opportunity to get it done and if you can get that taken care of prior to the public hearing and then all of the other things that I had noted in the resolution that was on for today can be taken care of as well pretty much most of them already have addressed I got stuff for the I'm ready chopped off to my class in your sewer district already got hydraulic test where they got the whole board test done no just one other question you have a large tree stump on the on the fence right on the east side yes can be removed but that's that's that's no you're gonna mention a reef fence well whole thing once we do the grease trap that whole area is gonna be brand new blacktop okay and I mean there's also a barbed wire along that fence line along the fence I don't know who has the authority to take that off but it's not very family friendly in terms of a restaurant but you want people going to so yeah it's right on the property line and it literally goes down the whole thing. yes yeah I don't know I don't imagine that the planning board ever would have required barbed wire along the fence that divides two commercial properties but all right so when we get to it I guess we could table resolution 2024 I think it's 72 on the agenda and then we could take off the floor the public hearing I'll move the table to resolution second well we'll do it when we get to that resolution what's the um next the new resolution number then it would be 73 73 okay so resolution 2024 zero seven three will be the resolution taken off the floor to schedule the public hearing for October 7 okay Heather one other question on a proposed cross easement there but you're still counting those two parking areas so that that was sort of a question and Greg Matt and I were talking about this you know we're requiring people to do cross access obviously where it makes sense the question is is it's not being improved right now it's a wooded area in the back but do we automatically deduct those stalls do they get deducted at the time the cross access is improved we're considered we're considering working in some kind of amendment to allow like a credit for stalls where they're being deducted. we're considering working in some kind of amendment to allow like a credit for stalls where they're being deducted. we're considering working in some kind of amendment to allow like a credit for stalls where they're being deducted. cross access is required you know if we're requiring the cross access and they are already providing that parking I mean there's no other feasible site for the cross access that area makes the most sense it's not really fair to push them into a variant situation when it's not being improved at this time so right okay same thing with you know it's poured over there's the same thing yeah okay anybody have anything else okay anybody have anything else all right you two moving on to agenda item number two 27 waves LLC with Greg all right you two moving on to agenda item number two 27 waves LLC with Greg
Richard if you could state your name for the record please Justin can we just zoom out on the camera please a little more bring the whole the whole page into focus there you go good good good good afternoon Richard Israel Richmond Realty thank you all right good afternoon everybody so this is a site plan application seeking to develop the last remaining vacant property on Commerce Drive with a one-story 8,775 square foot medical office with related site improvements including parking drainage lighting and landscaping this is a type one action under our town code as it involves parking stalls in excess of the 50 this is actually with first application that's going to benefit from our recently adopted policy of allowing staff to enable an active secret coordination process so I enable I sent out secret coordination to all involved agencies so coordination is done we've received comments from all those agencies back so we now are in a position to I do recommend assuming lead agency is doing a negative declaration as there's no significant negative environmental impact from development the for the board's knowledge the project site is identified as Suffolk County tax number 600-101-1-10.6 is a vacant 1.09 acre parcel located on the west side of Commerce Drive approximately 250 feet north of the intersection of 58 and Commerce Drive it's low it's identified also as lot number two of the Warsaw Park major subdivision which was approved by the Planning Board and filed with the Suffolk County Tax Department. clerk in 1990 surrounding areas all commercial uses including Panera medical offices to the north and the harley-davidson dealer to the east across Commerce Drive. So the proposed development will take access off of a new curb cut on the west side of Commerce Drive during peak period. I did note in my staff report on page three obviously figure two. My only recommendation while the 8-700 square foot medical office is not in another area is to have a significant traffic generator. I did notice that there's no real striping or identified lanes of travel as you come off of Commerce Drive onto 58. So you can see in figure two you've got a lot of cars queuing up. I did refer this to the DPW just as an interested agency we did get some comments back I know Mr. Israel has had conversations with the DPW. It's my understanding that they're going to do some restriping at that intersection coming off of Commerce. We've agreed to do the restriping. They came out they want to have a turning lane so that a person can just turn and go west and we'll have a queuing lane for people who want to go east. So they measured it up it has a correct width we don't have to move curbs or anything else and they were going to design it we said we would implement. You're in the sewer district there correct? What? You're in the sewer district there? Where I put in the sewers when they were gone. Yes that is correct and they do have a letter of the plan was accepted by the DPW. The district by email dated September 10th. So they will be connected. Is the building on spec or do you have a tenant? It's currently on spec because until we can build it the tenants don't want to sign it. And it may not it may be a non-medical building but we just don't know yet. We have some medical line for the first time in a long time some non-medical tenants all office. I saw where the sewer connection is made but where is the water coming from? I don't know. [transcription gap] So the plan here shows a sewer connection right here. And it shows a water connection. What about on top of that? Proposed water service is towards the northern property line on the north side. So to the point if it was. So there's a. It's along the northern property boundary. If you look on the screen I'm pointing to it. It goes. I can't see it. All right. So water connection would be along the north side. Okay. Got it. The building has a utility building attached to it. That's what the little thing is out. That's where the RPZ valves will go. The electric meters things. So to Mr. Azriel's point they are planning the site for the highest and best use medical office is. One per 150. If they had a non-medical office. You know if it was an accountant architect something like that. It only requires one for 200. So they're planning for the highest and best use. If it's a other type of office aside from medical professional medical office requires less parking. Right now the site does provide 60 parking stalls where the code only requires 59. So they're parking compliant. I just didn't know. That if it's a our town code has outpatient medical facilities. Required 10% of the total number of parking spaces to be handicapped based on the existing parking. They could would be precluded from an outpatient medical facility. I could take my one spot turn it into patchwork and then I have my six. There you go. So again similarly with cross access here. This is the last vacant property in Commerce Drive. So it does sort of present the last opportunity to connect to the Warner's Plaza just to the west. There would be space to connect up in the northwest corner. That would really only benefit the people visiting Warner's Plaza. They could get through the site and go out to the light at Commerce and 58 rather than try to make a left directly under 58. So recommend putting that in a revised plan just because it presents the last opportunity to do so. Okay. All the lighting complies with town code. Pole mounted lights are 14 feet above grade. Exterior facade lighting is 10 feet above grade and they're all 3000 degree Kelvin. Dark sky compliant. I do note that the plan does not provide sidewalks. I would recommend sidewalks be installed. Although I do note that this entire subdivision with the exception of the Harley dealership does not have sidewalks. But again create sidewalks. And if other sites come in from the west. If other sites come in from redevelopment we can connect at that point. We did get comments back from the Riverhead Water District including a water availability letter dated August 20th, 2024. Subject of some conditions prior to installation and activation. We did get comments back from the town engineer. I referred them to the fire marshal. They had no comments on the plan. They were referred to the Riverhead Fire District as well as the highway superintendent. I sent them to the planning commission on August 16th. I got no response. So their 30 day time period has expired. Again Mr. Israel had conversations with DPW. And the plans were referred to the ARB and they reviewed them at their August 28th meeting. Just for the board's knowledge we can see the elevations. Pretty standard for what's in that medical park to begin with and a lot of the other medical offices that we've seen along 58. I noticed that the [transcription gap] You're going to have an irrigation well. That's to be determined. All the other buildings in here do not have irrigation wells. They have separate irrigation meters through public water. So they're turned off during the winter. They have RPZ valves on them and the like. There isn't a lot of landscaping involved with here. We just find that with public water it's a lot easier because things don't turn brown. So for us we gladly pay the additional money. I know that water is precious here but it just keeps everything cleaner and neater because we do irrigate and try to keep our owners. You know what you just said about the other sites having All our other sites have separate meters because we're sewered. We don't want to pay the sewer fee on the irrigation water. We actually have meters in the street, RPZ valves in the street for each building. Would that satisfy the water district? The water district did include that in their water availability letter. Prior to the installation they need hydraulic load calculations including irrigation. They noted at that time that if no irrigation is going to be proposed off public water, they would have to pay the water fee. They do provide a well. But if Mr. Israel is going to provide a separate meter, the water district could already review and comment on that. On small properties it just gets, you know wells by the time we're done they're $12,000 to $15,000. So for the little amount of green that we have here, it's nominal. Is the depth of water a problem here? I see the huge amount of rainwater. We showed that but this park in general has always had, I want to say our groundwater is at 10 or 8? Groundwater is about 7 feet, 7.1 feet below grade. You can only use 4 footers. This property used to be a wetland back in the early 50s, 60s. This side was the drier side of it. But Mr. Finkelstein is my understanding for the lake that was on the Harley Davidson deal. Yeah, I discovered that as I was going through the Warsaw Park subdivision and seeing some comments from the old highway superintendent. Advantage pools that you need to make. Right, that's all been calculated by Young and Young. This was the last piece in this subdivision. It took me 25 years to buy it and now it is. So we're trying to make it blend in with the park. And finish the park up. Great. Anything else gentlemen? Nope. All good? All good. Okay, very good. The only comment I have is I prefer not to put in sidewalks because most of the people do drive there and we've never had an issue with people walking down the street. They don't exist. So we'll leave that up to staff. Okay, comments and resolutions? I'll take two main papers. Gentlemen, let's go to resolutions please. Okay, I'll take two resolutions. I'll take two resolutions. [transcription gap] All right. I'll move resolution 2024-067. Zorovich-McKenzie Lot Line Modification Extension. So moved. Second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. Nonero. Aye. Mr. Behr. Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. I'll move resolution number 68. Grants approval of lot line modification for Juan Diaz and Lakeside Trail of Court. So moved. Second. All right. I'll take two. All right. I'll take two. Mr. Zelnicki. Yes. Mr. Behr. Yes. All right. I'll take two. Mr. Zelnicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. Nonero. Aye. Mr. Behr. Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. I move resolution number 69. Riverhead Town Home Site Plan Extension. Resolution granting a 12-month extension on the final site plan approval. Second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. Nonero. Aye. Mr. Behr. Yes. And I vote aye. Motion carries. I'll move resolution 2024-070 for 2017. I'll take two. Mr. Behr. Yes. Mr. Zelnicki. Yes. Mr. Behr. Yes. Mr. Nonero. Aye. Mr. Behr. Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. Resolution 071. 27 LLC Site Plan Public Hearing. Resolution to schedule a public hearing on a preliminary site plan application seeking approval to construct a one-story, 87-75 square feet, two-story, two-story, two-story site plan. I'll take two. Mr. Behr. Yes. Mr. Zelnicki. Yes. Mr. Behr. Yes. Mr. Behr. Yes. Mr. Behr. Yes. Resolution 075-075-75-square-feet, medical office building. Second. Move it in second. Mr. Zelnicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. Nonero. Aye. Mr. Behr. Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. Okay. Thank you. Good luck. Joe, do you want the tables? I think we did, didn't we? No. No? We didn't do it? You would have to make a motion. Hold the resolution. Okay. Okay. I'll move the table to resolution number 72. Second. I move it in second. Mr. Behr. Yes. Mr. Zelnicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. Nonero. Aye. Mr. Behr. Yes. And I'll abstain. 4-1, 4-0-1. Motion carries. Comments on all matters? So we're going to do resolution 2024-073, which will be project 58, restaurant conversion. Resolution to schedule a public hearing for the site plan application of project 58. Restaurant conversion located at 1199 Old Country Road, Riverhead, within the Business Center, B.C. Zoning Use District. That public hearing will be October 17th at 3 o'clock p.m. Second. He can't move it. Oh. Oh, I'm just stating what the resolution is. He's stating the resolution. I mean, it sounded really good, though. Thank you. I've been practicing. You want to move it, Ken? I moved to the table. Okay. I'll second. Moved and seconded. Okay. Seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Nannero? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. Before we close, I just want to take this minute to thank the Terry Brothers Construction Company. They moved their driveway from the southern portion of their property to the northern part. It's going to make a huge difference to the residents around there. It's on Roanoke Avenue, right by the new golf course. I think it's going to make a big difference. And they did a great job. Kenny, I think you kind of helped spearhead that. So I want to thank everybody involved for that. Any correspondence, staff? Also, one other word on that. There was a lot of help, a lot of people involved. You know, the Stark family did a great job with the miniature golf. And just getting information with Dawn and Mike Zelnicki and the Terry Brothers for moving this, they didn't have to do it. But, you know, in this town, when people were having trouble moving their cars, they were able to get information. And I think that's a great thing. [transcription gap] There you go. Well appreciated. Very good. Anybody want to move the minutes? I'll move the minutes of August 15. I'll second. All in favor? Aye. [transcription gap] Have a great day everybody. Thank you. Thank you, staff.