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Thank you. [transcription gap] So as the board will recall, there were the residences on Fox Lane. We're just concerned about a buffer as well as the gentleman that runs the apple orchard over here. He was concerned about potential conflicts with the agricultural operation and the residential uses. So I do have in the resolution the incorporation of a 25 foot non-disturbance buffer along what is the western edges of lots 5, 6, 7, 8. That is also exactly consistent with the buffer that was required along the outer edges of the Fox Lane subdivision. And then there was a question about the cul-de-sac at the end of Fox Lane. Now the Manor Lane Estates subdivision had called for this temporary cul-de-sac to be removed when this lot was developed. I spoke with Mike Zaleski, the highway superintendent as well as our consulting engineer if there were any issues with leaving that cul-de-sac. Both residents on both sides of Fox Lane were just concerned about what the potential impacts would be to them. Both Vinnie Godiello and Mike Zaleski said that there would be no impacts, no negative reason, no reason why we couldn't leave that cul-de-sac. So in keeping with just being a good neighbor we're going to leave that cul-de-sac and they'll essentially just move the fire hydrant which will still be moved into the right of way over here. It will not disturb that neighbor's tree which is on his property so they'll essentially just push through and continue with the Fox Lane extension. Aside from that I have a pretty standard subdivision preliminary plat approval resolution includes a number of conditions that need to be satisfied before final plat would be approved. I have shared the resolution with Mr. Finnegan he's reviewed it. They did agree to that 25 foot buffer so this gets us along and moves the application along and they can move on with a final plat. Okay. Any Now we just, there's a lot of engineering comments that we have to review. There's one or two things that Greg and I discussed that the engineers can hash out. Okay. But beyond that We'll have a resolution on a little later. Yep. Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

Okay. Now we're going to move on to the public scoping session. I think we're going to be open for Zoom for us too, correct? You do? Okay. Very good. Once again with Greg, it's the TJOC Real Estate Holdings Subdivision and Site Plan Public Scoping Session. Thank you Mr. Chairman for the record. Greg Bergman, Senior Planner with the Riverhead Planning Department. We are opening up what's called a public scoping session for the draft scope to be used for the preparation of a draft environmental impact statement. As you stated, this is for an application, there's actually two applications that are being reviewed by this board for TJOC Real Estate Holdings LLC. It is a vacant 15.8 acre parcel of land located on the north side of Middle Country Road approximately 700 feet. West of the intersection of Middle Country Road and Fresh Pond. It is located between Miloski's Poultry Farm and J&R Steakhouse. The two applications that are being reviewed by the board consist of a major subdivision application which would subdivide the existing parcel. It would result in seven residential single family residential building lots, one storm water management parcel, one parcel on which a sewage treatment plant would be located as well as the roadway parcel. The site plan is a full system system system system system system system system system system system [transcription gap] system system [transcription gap] system system system system system system system [transcription gap] system system system system floors along with related improvements including parking landscaping lighting and drainage this project fully complies with the both the hamlet center and the residents b40 zoning districts in which it is located just for a little backstory the draft scope that we received from the applicant was distributed to involved agencies and it was made available on the town's website since November 8th I also did a public service announcement at a recent town board work session just to sort of increase you know participation in the draft scoping process I will just invite invite people to just keep in mind that this is a draft scoping session this is not a public hearing on the site point of the subdivision for or against the application this the purpose of this meeting is to receive comments on this draft scope which will be used by this board for the preparation of a final scope which will set the parameters of the environmental review and the items to be started I did go through I will share just a couple of my comments that I prepared for the board on the draft scope there were some minor changes on page one just referencing a 10 lot subdivision as opposed to nine and that just accounts for the residential properties stormwater management sewage treatment parcel roadway and the commercial development minor correction regarding the zoning district designation it was listed as HB it's H6 page two again just reference to the correct number of lots within the subdivision I struck the last law the last sentence on page two there was a comment that said is it is expected that traffic exiting lots one through nine onto Middle Country Road will be controlled by a stop sign in my mind that's a little bit pre-emptive when we haven't even begun to review a traffic impact study moving on to page three there was a comment that said with minimal anticipated light related impacts based on the lighting plan again I just struck that because it is a little bit premature within the required review permits and approvals I just did note that the Suffolk County Department of Health Services also will review the subdivision approval and I did speak with a neighboring resident mr. Malaski just about he had some concerns about potential impacts and conflicts with the existing agricultural operation and the potential development so on page four I added a section to be studied about impacts on agricultural resources states that the project site is located adjacent to an agricultural operation Malaski's poultry farm with the agricultural operation requiring a certain level of security from interference from neighboring development which could result in harm to livestock and potential transmission of pathogens such as bird flu just want to have that kind of examined through the EIS process page five I added in section 2.0 natural environmental resources this just sort of step no sets out the format that the DEIS will follow so I added section 2.3 to account for those agricultural impacts and at one of the last planning board meetings members ill Nikki had inquired about all potential alternative developments right now the commercial development along Middle Country Road is for lack of a better phrase oriented in an east-west direction members ill Nikki had wanted to see a alternative site alignment where that commercial building would be oriented in a north-south orientation and also alternative three it is worth seeing an alternative development which complies with the allowable sanitary densities of groundwater management zone three page eight onto page nine again I just incorporated some comments and second comments on the development of the development of the development of the development of the development of the middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle 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Miloski's poultry farm and we just wanted to put a couple of our comments on record you know we just we're thinking about putting a 25-foot buffer between us and and the property in question also you know we need some kind of barrier and a privacy like something like a chain the link in our bodies with slats and chain link would probably work good because we can't we we look at the road coming in into it coming in but coming out it looks like the headlights will come on to our property especially at night with the turkey sleeping outside that that would scare them so we're trying to keep with that and let's see I'm going to go ahead and get this one up here so she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's 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that for i don't know 50 60 years at least and i measured 22 feet between our fence and their fence so that seems like a pretty good buffer you know something like that and the reason we asked for 25 feet because if they put their urban bodies there of course they're going to grow out and stuff like that so we think 20 we don't think we're asking for too much but we think 25 feet would be a good buffer I just have a question for you also yes does your fences go down below the surface of the grounds like to stop predators from borrowing underneath into the yard or is that yes it goes to people who your neighbors do also yeah I actually my neighbors never try to climb a fence I'm talking about like animals try animals yeah I'm we have it we have it it's only a couple inches below ground something can dig under it and go into the fence but we you know of course you have to take care of that problem you know if you have to catch something relocated an animal we would do that so if these homes were going in and we're putting up some type of fencing that they should go below the surface of the ground or you up good your fences provide that that's what I was not I think my fences would provide that we're just worried about the initial phase of construction because it moves all the animals all around and you know we of course we would like to keep it away from our animals because you know there's all kinds of rats and we you know we just like to keep it away from our animals and you know the hardest point about farming is to make sure everything is clean and sanitary keeping people and other animals away usually you don't have a problem. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Mark should be part of the record. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks. Let me see if there's anybody in the public first. Anybody else from the public want to say anything. Okay. Take a zoom. Okay. Karen. Karen, you want to unmute yourself?

Hi there. My name is Karen, and I live in Timber Park, which is near this project. I first just want to say thank you to the planning department for reaching out to the Calverton Civic Association regarding the TGOC and the draft scoping project. I'm a member of the Civic Association, and I do have some questions and some suggestions that I hope you would consider. First, regarding traffic, I think it needs to be clarified whether this is going to be a new town road or a private road to the housing development, and how this road will be maintained and who will be responsible for paying on the maintenance. My next, the traffic analysis should include a map or a diagram to demonstrate how the commercial entrance and main driveway will work and how traffic will be managed. I've tried to read traffic analysis, and sometimes it's very confusing, and I think just having a map demonstrating how it's going to work, I think that's very helpful. And I think the traffic analysis should also include the proposed charter school that's going to be on Fresh Pond and Middle Country Road. That's also right around the corner from this development. So it absolutely should be a part of the analysis. Also, regarding the apartments, they're listed as one bedroom. However, the apartments should be considered as one bedroom. And I think that's going to be a very important part of the analysis. So it should also suggest loft or two-bedroom. A one-bedroom apartment suggests one or two people living in the apartment. However, a loft space could easily be a bedroom for a second person. So any analysis should include at least two to three people living in the apartments. And I think it would be interesting to have a survey of vacant commercial spaces in the area. To determine if a 30,000 square foot commercial venture will be supported and economically viable in this area. Currently, the shops at East Wind, it's just down the road, they have spaces available. So those are my points, and I hope you consider them. Thank you. Thank you very much. Have a good night.

Anybody else, Heather? No one with their hand raised. Did you want to speak? Okay. Please. Just need your name and address. Absolutely. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. My name is Mike Kelly, 12 Elm Lane, Stony Brook. I'm the principal at TJOC. And I appreciate the comments, both in person and via Zoom. Again, we've built several communities over the 25 years. We've been around. And we look forward to developing this property. And I appreciate the interaction. So I just wanted to assure you that we'll do everything we can to accommodate and make sense of any concerns from either the department, from the board, or from the neighbors. So I just wanted to give you some assurances of that. Thank you. Appreciate it. Mike, just if I could. If I could just make a comment. I think the comment that was made with regard to the recharge basin and the sewage treatment plant as far as being able to subsurface discharge rather than surface discharge, I think that's an important thing based on the comment of Mr. Malosky. All this information? Yeah, you do. I'm sorry. No worries. Thank you.

To that point, one of our engineers is here tonight taking notes. We'll bring that back to the rest of the engineering team and the architectural team to ensure that these questions, concerns are addressed one way, shape, or form. So the goal of any recharge basin is to ensure that there's no standing water. So if it's designed properly, that base should be porous at best. Right. To make sure that it's draining properly. So. Whatever. can do to ensure it a lot of that will do will come with different soil borings to ensure that that we understand what that soil is is actually what it's like so we can design it properly thank you someone else on to my chat pop up their hand isn't raised but I think it's the Calverton civic icon if you're out there can you unmute hi there yes I have thank you very much my name is talk we church and coverage and civic president thanks so much for the opportunity to speak at the public hearing and I also along with Karen campus on our executive board I'd like to thank the planning department for their letter which included us as the civic it in the secret process officially and recognizing us as a coordinating agency or involved agency the area that this will be going in this project will be going as an environmental justice area which I'm certain that Greg Bergman is aware of um okay ! bring it also to the attention of the board if you're not already aware and the outreach to reach folks in the community including calverton meadows with i think maybe over 300 folks live there on the north end of fresh pond would be appreciated it's not very easy to navigate our town website as as we're all familiar and would like to make sure that folks there are brought up to speed with each part of this process if you need contact information there i could provide it separately i also would like to add to the traffic analysis certainly all of the intersections mentioned and the roads mentioned are very important and thanks for including them additionally because there are other projects that are in the pipeline on middle country road and we should assume that there will be more you ! since we've just come out of our industrial moratorium and that people who are waiting to put their projects in maybe much like tjfc will either have already started or will be starting and i'd like to make sure that the traffic impact of those proposed projects are considered in in total not to segregate out projects one by one and intersections i haven't heard mentioned are the north's end of middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country road middle country the National Cemetery and going into the EPCAL property, looking at those changes and those intersections I think would make a more complete picture. Thanks very much for your time. Thank you for your comments. Any other people on Zoom? No one else has their hand raised. So if anybody else wants to raise their hand and I'll... Any other public comments? If you want to close it up, gentlemen. I'll close the subdivision, excuse me, TJOC Real Estate Holding subdivision site plan descoping session. So moved. Second. Second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Naranjo? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. All righty. Now we can take on public comments on resolutions. Okay. Thank you. No takers. Okay. Gentlemen, let's do the resolutions. I'll move resolution 2024-090 for the Malice property. So moved. Second. Second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Naranjo? Aye. Mr. Baer? I'm going to vote no on this resolution because I was hoping that the ZBA would be able to stop this property because I just think it's a bad thing. It's a beautiful piece of property and it's going to be torn apart. So I vote no. Okay. And I vote yes. The motion carries. Four aye and one nay. I move resolution 2024-091, Susan McCarthy, minor subdivision resolution granting minor subdivision approval for the subdivision application entitled Susan McCarthy's minor subdivision. So moved. Second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Naranjo? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. 24-029 Cordova Drive-Thru Restaurant Conversion resulting in granting site plan approval to convert an existing 4268 square foot restaurant into two separate tenancies. I'll second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Naranjo? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries.

So moved. Seconded. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Naranjo? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. Moved resolution 20-20-04-094, Carson Woods Major Subdivision resolution granting approval for a preliminary plot for an eight lot major residential subdivision. I'll second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Naranjo? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. Any public comment from anybody? No public. No minutes today? We just got them the other day, so I'll put them on for the next meeting. Okay. That sounds good. At this point in time, we're going to go into executive session, and we're going to be discussing litigation on HK Ventures and nothing else. Thank you. [transcription gap] Okay, we've come back into public session, and we're going to have a round of resolution come up to floor. Can somebody move that resolution for me? I'll move resolution 2024-095 authorizing the stipulation of settlement in litigation with HK Ventures LLC. So moved. Second. Moved and second to come off the floor. All in favor? Aye. Yep. Just to clarify a little further, this is a settlement with HK Ventures, and we've been advised by planning and by Department of Law that we're in good shape, and it's a good move for us. Any public comment? Not seeing anybody. Let's take up a vote. Gentlemen? I'll get somebody to move it. Move the stipulation. Right. To vote on the stipulation, yeah. I'll move the stipulation. Second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. De Niro? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. Any other business staff? Correspondents? All right. Good job, everybody, again. Our next meeting date will be December 19th, afternoon meeting, 3 o'clock. Have a great day, and thank you very much. Motion to close? Motion. Second. Seconded to close the meeting. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Motion carries. Thank you, everybody. We have 2 and 40 minutes.

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