January 2, 2025 — Planning Board

Planning Board Meeting

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0:00Thank you.
0:30Thank you.
0:59This is the advertised time and place for the Thursday, January 2, 2025 Planning Board meeting.
1:06Please stand for the pledge.
1:10I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
1:23Okay, thank you.
1:24On behalf of the Planning Department and my colleagues on the board,
1:28we wish everybody happiness.
1:29A healthy and happy new year.
1:32With that said, we do have a public hearing tonight.
1:40Prisco's Calvitan Acres, and we have Matt Charters to tell us all about it.
1:44Got it.
1:44Okay.
1:46So, if the board recalls, we did schedule a public hearing for this last month.
1:50This application did require relief from the Zoning Board.
1:53They did get that back in the beginning of December.
1:55We did receive the necessary posting affidavits and mailing affidavits
1:59from the Zoning Board.
2:00We have the applicant's attorney, Mr. Cuddy.
2:02I will read the public hearing notes into the record and then turn it over to Mr. Cuddy.
2:06So, please take notice that a public hearing will be held before the Planning Board of the Town of Riverhead,
2:10Riverhead Town Hall, 4 West 2nd Street, Riverhead, New York, on Thursday, the second day of January, 2025,
2:16at 6 o'clock p.m., to consider the minor subdivision application entitled Prisco's Calvitan Acres,
2:21which seeks approval to subdivide a 2.0637 acre parcel into two lots, where proposed lot one is to contain a 44th,
2:2844th, is to contain 44,948 square feet, and where proposed lot two, a flag lot, is to contain 44,948 square feet,
2:37located within the rural corridor zoning use district situate at 3674 Middle Country Road, Hamlet of Calverton,
2:44more particularly identified as Suffolk County Tax Map number 600-99-2-12.
2:50Behind you on the screen is the subdivision map.
2:54The back flag lot parcel is currently in act reduction.
2:58There's nursery stock.
2:59The front is where Country Deli is located, and there's also a manufactured home on the property.
3:06We have gotten some initial comments back.
3:09The most probably pertinent one is from the DOT, requesting a common driveway for both lots,
3:14and we're going to ask that the parking gets organized just to avoid any future variances on the property.
3:20I know no one's here in the room, but I can turn it over to Mr. Cuddy if you guys have any questions.
3:24One question.
3:24What was the relief for the zoning board for?
3:26Sure.
3:26I can answer that.
3:28Okay, fine.
3:31Yeah.
3:31Mr. Cuddy's going to answer that.
3:33Yeah.
3:39Good evening.
3:40Charles Cuddy for the applicant.
3:42I'll be brief, so it's not to prolong the meeting.
3:45It's public hearing, so we do need to state your name.
3:48Charles Cuddy, C-U-D-D-Y, 445 Griffin Avenue, Riverhead, New York.
3:54Thank you.
3:54We had three variances that were granted.
3:56Two of them were area variances for the width of the property, because each property is in reach of the required number.
4:07There were also a variance for the impervious surface, because the front of this site, which is a one-country deli, is basically macadam.
4:17So we needed impervious surface, I think, 38% as opposed to 25%.
4:23But those were the variances that were granted.
4:26In each case, one of the front yards was 25 feet in depth.
4:32The other had to be 30 feet.
4:36And that was it, and it was granted on the 12th of December by the zoning board.
4:41Thank you.
4:43This essentially is a de facto subdivision.
4:45The two lots have been like this for many, many years.
4:50One is the one-country deli.
4:51The other is the nursery in the back.
4:54It really doesn't change anything.
4:56The way the lots are set up, we don't have a problem with the access, but the access is always going to be to the one-country deli in front.
5:05And it's just a question of using the flag piece to get to the real lot.
5:10But again, I think they're acceptable lots.
5:13They're bigger than required.
5:14They're over an acre.
5:16So I would ask the board to approve the application.
5:20Thank you.
5:21Do we have anybody on Zoom?
5:23No one on Zoom.
5:24No one on Zoom.
5:26Gentlemen, any thoughts?
5:27Ed, I spoke to the farmer who owns the adjacent property.
5:30He had no problem with it whatsoever.
5:34I have no problem.
5:36Good.
5:36I'll close the public hearing.
5:38I'll move to close the public hearing.
5:40For Prisco's Calverton Acres, so moved.
5:43Second.
5:44Moved and seconded.
5:45All in favor?
5:46Aye.
5:46All opposed?
5:48Motion carries.
5:49Thank you.
5:50Thank you.
5:53Okay, let's go on to discussion items.
5:56Item one is RH Hamptons LLC.
6:00Tell us about it, Matt.
6:02Okay.
6:03So if the board recalls, this is a five lot subdivision.
6:06I'll invite Mr. Cuddy up on this as well.
6:08He's the applicant's representative.
6:09This is between Maple and Union Avenue.
6:11I believe we initially got this back in 2022.
6:14It's been kind of hanging out for a little while.
6:17We've discussed several times on compliance with the Long Island Workforce Housing Act.
6:22If the board recalls there's certain requirements based on the law, we'll move on to the next item.
6:26So the number of lots when you have to comply with the act, the applicant's entitled to a 10% density bonus,
6:32or they have to pay a monetary value.
6:35It's the reviewing board's determination on how they comply with the act.
6:39At our last juncture, it was decided that they were going to pay duty payment in lieu of providing the density on site.
6:47So what's going to happen here is the applicant will come back as a condition of the subdivision approval,
6:52which I have a resolution prepared tonight, with a lot that shows six.
6:56I'll head over to you next.
6:57I'll head over to you next.
6:58with the Law and Workforce Housing Act because the way that it works,
7:00it's either based on the, I think it's the median, I want to read directly.
7:07Median income for Nassau-Sethick, a family of four,
7:10and it's one and a half times or the appraised value of the lot you would get as a bonus,
7:16whichever is less.
7:18In this case, it's likely going to be that the lot is worth less than the median income value.
7:23So that's why he's preparing the additional sketch.
7:26Other than that, pretty straightforward in terms of the approval that I prepared.
7:30I did amend it in terms of what was initially sent out to include comments from the highway department.
7:35A nice conversation with Member Bayer today regarding curbs and sidewalks,
7:39which the highway superintendent agrees with.
7:42They're on the Union Avenue side.
7:45There's already an existing sidewalk that's on the east side of the road.
7:48There's curbing on the west side, but it ends.
7:51So likely as part of their road opening permit, for each lot they'll have to do curbing.
7:56Along this side.
7:58And then on the Maple Avenue side, there is a sidewalk that terminates here.
8:02They would likely have to continue the sidewalk down to the railroad tracks with curbing on the side as well.
8:08That's the only change from the resolution that you initially saw.
8:14Alright, so when that gets approved, or voted on rather, is it as amended?
8:19You can vote on it as amended.
8:21Okay.
8:23Council, is that okay?
8:25Danielle?
8:25It was 30.
8:26It was 30.
8:26It was updated prior to the meeting.
8:30It's been posted.
8:31It's Danielle's call.
8:32I would do it as amended.
8:35As amended, right?
8:36Because it was posted today?
8:37Yeah.
8:37Okay.
8:38No problem.
8:40You said the highway department will require curbing and sidewalks.
8:45Yes.
8:47What happens if, for example, the middle lot is the first one that comes through?
8:54Yeah.
8:54That's why I have to do it.
8:56It's challenging because at the same time, if we had them curb it everywhere, we don't necessarily know where each lot wants to put their driveway.
9:05That's right.
9:05So then they're going to have to improve a curb, cut into the curb, put an apron in.
9:10So Mike felt it was best to, as they come in each lot as part of the road opening permit, which we're covenanting as a condition of approval that they comply with any conditions that he has, rather than doing all the curbing and then maybe have to take some out.
9:24Yeah.
9:25And then during construction.
9:25Yeah.
9:26And then during construction, they're going to get rid of it.
9:26Yeah.
9:27I think this way is much better.
9:27Yeah.
9:28Okay.
9:28All right.
9:29Yes.
9:29And the applicant has seen the resolution and agrees to it.
9:30Great.
9:30Everybody's happy.
9:31Now, Matt, who's responsible for the curbing along the road?
9:31The applicant.
9:32Yeah.
9:32The applicant.
9:33Yeah.
9:33Okay.
9:34Anything else, gentlemen?
9:34Did you state that about the curbing and the sidewalk?
9:35In the covenant, it says that they have to get a road opening, but it's not a road opening.
9:35It's a road opening.
9:36[transcription gap]
9:39So, it would be a condition of whatever...
9:40I don't want to supersede whatever...
9:41It could change.
9:42Mike could put in...
9:43Say, these lots sit vacant for a long time.
9:44Mike might, in his function as highway superintendent, do the curbing himself before this is done.
9:45All right.
9:46Great.
9:46Thank you.
9:47Thank you so much.
9:47I'll head over to you next, so...
9:48I'll head over to you next, so...
9:48...let's head over to you next, so...
9:49[transcription gap]
9:52In the covenant, it says that they have to get a road opening permit,
9:56so it would be a condition of whatever.
9:58I don't want to supersede whatever.
10:00It could change.
10:00Mike could put in, say, these lots sit vacant for a long time.
10:04Mike might, in his function as highway superintendent,
10:06do the curbing himself before this is done.
10:09So I don't want to say he has to.
10:12You don't want to keep it the way it is?
10:13Yeah, I'd say keep it the way it is in case something changes
10:16and they don't need it for some reason.
10:19I'd leave that up to him because that's his area of expertise.
10:22Okay.
10:25Everybody good?
10:26Yeah, I'm good.
10:27Good.
10:28I just have one question.
10:29Is there going to be any improvement to the street lighting over there?
10:32Not as part of this application, but I could put a word out to the town.
10:37Just with the proximity to the railroad tracks?
10:40Yeah, absolutely.
10:42Yeah, that's a little bit of a way.
10:44Good thought.
10:46All right, so we have a vote coming up.
10:50Thank you.
10:52Thank you.
10:56Public comments?
10:58Okay.
11:01All right, let's do our resolution, gentlemen.
11:03I'll move resolution 25-001,
11:08conditional approval of a subdivision application titled R.H. Hamptons.
11:13As amended.
11:14[transcription gap]
11:17Second.
11:19Okay, moved and seconded.
11:21Mr. Zelnicki?
11:22Yes.
11:22As amended.
11:23Mr. Hogan?
11:23Yes.
11:24Mr. Nenaro?
11:24Aye.
11:25Mr. Baer?
11:25Yes.
11:26An aye vote, aye.
11:26The motion carries.
11:27Congratulations.
11:27Thanks, Mr. Cuddy.
11:28Public comments on all matters?
11:28It doesn't look like we have any takers.
11:29We're going to see this again.
11:29You'll see it again for the sketch for the Long Island Workforce Housing Act.
11:30So you'll have to give that your blessing by resolution to say yes, this lot and whatever
11:31the appraised value would meet the intent.
11:31But this is the approval of the resolution.
11:32Okay.
11:32So we're going to move this to the next item.
11:33Okay.
11:33So we're going to move this to the next item.
11:34Okay.
11:34So we're going to move this to the next item.
11:35Okay.
11:35Subject to those conditions.
11:37head, do we have any minutes to vote on tonight?
11:38head, do we have any minutes to vote on tonight?
11:39We do.
11:39We do?
11:40The November 7th minutes, which...
11:41head, do we have any minutes to vote on tonight?
11:42The November 7th minutes, which...
11:43head, do we have any minutes to vote on tonight?
11:44[transcription gap]
11:46head head head
11:48that the appraised value would be the intent.
11:51But this is the approval of the sub-agency, subject to those conditions.
11:56So, Heather, we don't have any minutes to vote on tonight?
11:58We do.
11:59We do?
11:59The November 7th minutes, which the title page has been corrected.
12:02The title page is corrected.
12:04Okay, very good.
12:05Thank you.
12:07I'll move those.
12:08November 7th, the title page corrected.
12:10Second.
12:11Moved and seconded.
12:12Mr. Zelnicki?
12:13Yes.
12:13Mr. Hogan?
12:14Yes.
12:14Mr. DeNiro?
12:15Aye.
12:15Mr. Baer?
12:16Yes.
12:16And I vote aye.
12:17The motion carries.
12:18Other business staff?
12:22Everybody's good?
12:24Correspondents?
12:26Okay.
12:27Our next meeting day is Thursday, January 16th at 3 p.m.
12:32Have a great new year, everybody.
12:34Thank you.
12:35Motion to close?
12:37Motion to adjourn?
12:40Second.
12:41Moved and seconded.
12:42All in favor?
12:42Aye.
12:43Motion carries.
12:48Second.
12:49Thank you.

Full Transcript

Thank you. Thank you. This is the advertised time and place for the Thursday, January 2, 2025 Planning Board meeting. Please stand for the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, thank you. On behalf of the Planning Department and my colleagues on the board, we wish everybody happiness. A healthy and happy new year. With that said, we do have a public hearing tonight.

Prisco's Calvitan Acres, and we have Matt Charters to tell us all about it. Got it. Okay. So, if the board recalls, we did schedule a public hearing for this last month. This application did require relief from the Zoning Board. They did get that back in the beginning of December. We did receive the necessary posting affidavits and mailing affidavits from the Zoning Board. We have the applicant's attorney, Mr. Cuddy. I will read the public hearing notes into the record and then turn it over to Mr. Cuddy. So, please take notice that a public hearing will be held before the Planning Board of the Town of Riverhead, Riverhead Town Hall, 4 West 2nd Street, Riverhead, New York, on Thursday, the second day of January, 2025, at 6 o'clock p.m., to consider the minor subdivision application entitled Prisco's Calvitan Acres, which seeks approval to subdivide a 2.0637 acre parcel into two lots, where proposed lot one is to contain a 44th, 44th, is to contain 44,948 square feet, and where proposed lot two, a flag lot, is to contain 44,948 square feet, located within the rural corridor zoning use district situate at 3674 Middle Country Road, Hamlet of Calverton, more particularly identified as Suffolk County Tax Map number 600-99-2-12. Behind you on the screen is the subdivision map. The back flag lot parcel is currently in act reduction. There's nursery stock. The front is where Country Deli is located, and there's also a manufactured home on the property. We have gotten some initial comments back. The most probably pertinent one is from the DOT, requesting a common driveway for both lots, and we're going to ask that the parking gets organized just to avoid any future variances on the property. I know no one's here in the room, but I can turn it over to Mr. Cuddy if you guys have any questions. One question. What was the relief for the zoning board for? Sure. I can answer that. Okay, fine. Yeah. Mr. Cuddy's going to answer that. Yeah.

Good evening. Charles Cuddy for the applicant. I'll be brief, so it's not to prolong the meeting. It's public hearing, so we do need to state your name. Charles Cuddy, C-U-D-D-Y, 445 Griffin Avenue, Riverhead, New York. Thank you. We had three variances that were granted. Two of them were area variances for the width of the property, because each property is in reach of the required number. There were also a variance for the impervious surface, because the front of this site, which is a one-country deli, is basically macadam. So we needed impervious surface, I think, 38% as opposed to 25%. But those were the variances that were granted. In each case, one of the front yards was 25 feet in depth. The other had to be 30 feet. And that was it, and it was granted on the 12th of December by the zoning board. Thank you. This essentially is a de facto subdivision. The two lots have been like this for many, many years. One is the one-country deli. The other is the nursery in the back. It really doesn't change anything. The way the lots are set up, we don't have a problem with the access, but the access is always going to be to the one-country deli in front. And it's just a question of using the flag piece to get to the real lot. But again, I think they're acceptable lots. They're bigger than required. They're over an acre. So I would ask the board to approve the application. Thank you. Do we have anybody on Zoom? No one on Zoom. No one on Zoom. Gentlemen, any thoughts? Ed, I spoke to the farmer who owns the adjacent property. He had no problem with it whatsoever. I have no problem. Good. I'll close the public hearing. I'll move to close the public hearing. For Prisco's Calverton Acres, so moved. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay, let's go on to discussion items. Item one is RH Hamptons LLC. Tell us about it, Matt. Okay. So if the board recalls, this is a five lot subdivision. I'll invite Mr. Cuddy up on this as well. He's the applicant's representative. This is between Maple and Union Avenue. I believe we initially got this back in 2022. It's been kind of hanging out for a little while. We've discussed several times on compliance with the Long Island Workforce Housing Act. If the board recalls there's certain requirements based on the law, we'll move on to the next item. So the number of lots when you have to comply with the act, the applicant's entitled to a 10% density bonus, or they have to pay a monetary value. It's the reviewing board's determination on how they comply with the act. At our last juncture, it was decided that they were going to pay duty payment in lieu of providing the density on site. So what's going to happen here is the applicant will come back as a condition of the subdivision approval, which I have a resolution prepared tonight, with a lot that shows six. I'll head over to you next. I'll head over to you next. with the Law and Workforce Housing Act because the way that it works, it's either based on the, I think it's the median, I want to read directly. Median income for Nassau-Sethick, a family of four, and it's one and a half times or the appraised value of the lot you would get as a bonus, whichever is less. In this case, it's likely going to be that the lot is worth less than the median income value. So that's why he's preparing the additional sketch. Other than that, pretty straightforward in terms of the approval that I prepared. I did amend it in terms of what was initially sent out to include comments from the highway department. A nice conversation with Member Bayer today regarding curbs and sidewalks, which the highway superintendent agrees with. They're on the Union Avenue side. There's already an existing sidewalk that's on the east side of the road. There's curbing on the west side, but it ends. So likely as part of their road opening permit, for each lot they'll have to do curbing. Along this side. And then on the Maple Avenue side, there is a sidewalk that terminates here. They would likely have to continue the sidewalk down to the railroad tracks with curbing on the side as well. That's the only change from the resolution that you initially saw. Alright, so when that gets approved, or voted on rather, is it as amended? You can vote on it as amended. Okay. Council, is that okay? Danielle? It was 30. It was 30. It was updated prior to the meeting. It's been posted. It's Danielle's call. I would do it as amended. As amended, right? Because it was posted today? Yeah. Okay. No problem. You said the highway department will require curbing and sidewalks. Yes. What happens if, for example, the middle lot is the first one that comes through? Yeah. That's why I have to do it. It's challenging because at the same time, if we had them curb it everywhere, we don't necessarily know where each lot wants to put their driveway. That's right. So then they're going to have to improve a curb, cut into the curb, put an apron in. So Mike felt it was best to, as they come in each lot as part of the road opening permit, which we're covenanting as a condition of approval that they comply with any conditions that he has, rather than doing all the curbing and then maybe have to take some out. Yeah. And then during construction. Yeah. And then during construction, they're going to get rid of it. Yeah. I think this way is much better. Yeah. Okay. All right. Yes. And the applicant has seen the resolution and agrees to it. Great. Everybody's happy. Now, Matt, who's responsible for the curbing along the road? The applicant. Yeah. The applicant. Yeah. Okay. Anything else, gentlemen? Did you state that about the curbing and the sidewalk? In the covenant, it says that they have to get a road opening, but it's not a road opening. It's a road opening. [transcription gap] So, it would be a condition of whatever... I don't want to supersede whatever... It could change. Mike could put in... Say, these lots sit vacant for a long time. Mike might, in his function as highway superintendent, do the curbing himself before this is done. All right. Great. Thank you. Thank you so much. I'll head over to you next, so... I'll head over to you next, so... ...let's head over to you next, so... [transcription gap] In the covenant, it says that they have to get a road opening permit, so it would be a condition of whatever. I don't want to supersede whatever. It could change. Mike could put in, say, these lots sit vacant for a long time. Mike might, in his function as highway superintendent, do the curbing himself before this is done. So I don't want to say he has to. You don't want to keep it the way it is? Yeah, I'd say keep it the way it is in case something changes and they don't need it for some reason. I'd leave that up to him because that's his area of expertise. Okay. Everybody good? Yeah, I'm good. Good. I just have one question. Is there going to be any improvement to the street lighting over there? Not as part of this application, but I could put a word out to the town. Just with the proximity to the railroad tracks? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that's a little bit of a way. Good thought. All right, so we have a vote coming up. Thank you. Thank you. Public comments? Okay. All right, let's do our resolution, gentlemen. I'll move resolution 25-001, conditional approval of a subdivision application titled R.H. Hamptons. As amended. [transcription gap] Second. Okay, moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. As amended. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Nenaro? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. An aye vote, aye. The motion carries. Congratulations. Thanks, Mr. Cuddy. Public comments on all matters? It doesn't look like we have any takers. We're going to see this again. You'll see it again for the sketch for the Long Island Workforce Housing Act. So you'll have to give that your blessing by resolution to say yes, this lot and whatever the appraised value would meet the intent. But this is the approval of the resolution. Okay. So we're going to move this to the next item. Okay. So we're going to move this to the next item. Okay. So we're going to move this to the next item. Okay. Subject to those conditions. head, do we have any minutes to vote on tonight? head, do we have any minutes to vote on tonight? We do. We do? The November 7th minutes, which... head, do we have any minutes to vote on tonight? The November 7th minutes, which... head, do we have any minutes to vote on tonight? [transcription gap] head head head that the appraised value would be the intent. But this is the approval of the sub-agency, subject to those conditions. So, Heather, we don't have any minutes to vote on tonight? We do. We do? The November 7th minutes, which the title page has been corrected. The title page is corrected. Okay, very good. Thank you. I'll move those. November 7th, the title page corrected. Second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. DeNiro? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. Other business staff? Everybody's good? Correspondents? Okay. Our next meeting day is Thursday, January 16th at 3 p.m. Have a great new year, everybody. Thank you. Motion to close? Motion to adjourn? Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? Aye. Motion carries.

Second. Thank you.