January 16, 2025 — Planning Board

Planning Board Meeting

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0:00Thank you.
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2:17Okay, we have no public hearings today, so we're going to go right to discussion items.
2:22Number one is Prisco's Calpton Acres with Matt Charters.
2:25Good afternoon, board.
2:27I'll invite Charles Cuddy up.
2:28I'll invite the applicant's attorney on this.
2:31If everyone recalls, we did have a public hearing at our last playing board meeting for this application.
2:35It's a two-lot subdivision in Calverton.
2:38If the board recalls, this is a wine country deli location, which is on lot one.
2:44Justin, if we could go to the eye in the sky, please, with an existing mobile home.
2:52And then the back lot, which is lot two, is currently in ag production.
2:56There's nursery stock there.
2:57Okay.
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2:59Okay.
2:59Okay.
3:16Okay.
3:16these lots um what i think the d.o.t is probably after uh just because their comments were not very
3:24you know didn't explain much but this is the calvertine post office on this property
3:28uh as you can see one point of access curving and a sidewalk that's generally what the d.o.t will
3:35ask for on development projects so in your packet vinnie's comments are pretty explicit what needs
3:41to be done um so here between for lots one and two uh there'll be a common driveway easement
3:49that runs the length of the flagpole and the width of that driveway is what matt uh so it'll
3:56have to meet whatever is necessary for two-way traffic so that's 24 feet wide generally i
4:02wouldn't have an issue as as it's improved because it's potentially just going back to a single
4:06family residence that i got more narrow which is fine but the d.o.t the d.o.t has very helpful
4:11standard
4:11sheets uh that's really plug and play for an engineer and how they need to be designed what
4:16the curb cut width needs to be um in the resolution these are all it's covenanted that it has to be a
4:22common driveway uh there's several map revisions that need to be done and then the d.o.t work will
4:29need to happen before signature of plans because that's really our hook for subdivision reveal
4:37other than that it's pretty straightforward approval this uh application they're going to be
4:41curb cuts then a single curb cut for both lots so generally right in this area well i can't see my hand
4:49i can't do we normally do curbs and uh it's a sidewalks during a subdivision process so
4:56the issue is this is what the state's requiring the applicant is in quote has i believe tom
5:02wolfer who's the design professional from young and young is reaching out to the state to see
5:06exactly what they want because because i believe in the report it said they recommended it
5:11they do um it's their road though so i'm going to stick to whatever there's what
5:17their recommendation is i'd hate to say don't do it and then whatever they do
5:22on this property the state's just going to make you do it after the fact um
5:28as of now i don't think we have a mandate from the state yeah i think we just have a proposal
5:36it's stuck it's you know to an extent it's lines on a map but from a planning perspective
5:41We go back to the photo.
5:44It's a little bit of a free-for-all.
5:47I know it's a small deli, but you've got people backing up into traffic.
5:51It's going on.
5:52So you say he's going to have to stripe it?
5:54He's going to have to stripe it.
5:55It's pretty small, so I think it only generates about three parking spaces just because of the size of the deli.
5:59Yeah, I know.
6:00This is a busy place.
6:01But it's busy.
6:01So there's people sort of parked everywhere.
6:04As you can see, they're leading into the farm field.
6:07I mean, nothing's really right overhead.
6:09You know, some people do park over here.
6:11But this will allow good circulation if there's a curb.
6:14There's enough room to come around and then back out the front.
6:18It's an expense, but this is unfortunately.
6:21So it'll just be a single driveway.
6:23Single driveway, yep.
6:24Shared access for both lots.
6:26That's always what the state does.
6:27I'm just curious how he's going to be able to lay this parking lot out.
6:30I know.
6:30It's tight.
6:32It's going to be a challenge because the way it works now is people go in and out pretty regularly without too much problem.
6:39Yeah.
6:39Yeah.
6:42But again, we don't know if the state is going to demand that we do it.
6:45Yeah, I mean.
6:46We don't have a problem with the entranceway.
6:48I mean, that's not the deal.
6:50But the curbing.
6:51Yeah.
6:52We don't know for sure if they're going to require curbing and sidewalks.
6:54They're definitely going to require a shared access point.
6:58But how does that work if you don't have curbs?
7:00Yeah.
7:00If it's not a single curb.
7:01Because if they're saying, hey, you have a common driveway, but then nothing changes, you're still going to go wherever you want.
7:07Yeah.
7:07I just don't know if we're creating a bigger problem by doing that.
7:14But this is unfortunately what happens in a land use application when you come in for something like this.
7:19I concur with that.
7:20I think we're going to create a much, much bigger problem there.
7:24Yeah.
7:24I mean, the way I see it, it's not a buyer be aware situation.
7:28But when you go to improve your, you're seeking to do something to your property.
7:33And in this case, I mean, there's variance requires.
7:35There's a site plan application.
7:36There's a subdivision application that's before us.
7:38That's the really, the only hook is making this happen prior to signature.
7:42And it's the state's road.
7:44It's there right away.
7:44They kind of dictate what goes on.
7:47I'm curious to what they say upon further application if they want to make, you know, have sidewalks and curbs going.
7:52And then if they say otherwise, I don't have an issue with the app if you're coming back to seek a modification.
7:57I see that the post office does have.
7:59Yeah.
8:00So there's room.
8:00But yet on the west side, there's no curb.
8:04No.
8:05No.
8:05And that's.
8:06Unfortunately, that's how the state and even the DOT really operate.
8:10It's sort of ad hoc is as these sites come in for development or redevelopment, they make you improve.
8:14They sort of pass the buck.
8:16Probably normally during site plan process, not subdivision.
8:20Yeah.
8:20I just am very concerned that we're creating a bigger problem.
8:24I understand.
8:26It's not lost on me, but I don't.
8:29It's not really our barely like some.
8:30The post office doesn't receive any ways near the amount of traffic.
8:33Yeah.
8:34All right.
8:35Sure.
8:35Yeah.
8:35From a planning.
8:36Perspective, one point of access way safer and way more controlled than having just a
8:41wide open curb cut.
8:42I understand the functions properly now, but it takes one person backing into traffic to
8:46get T-boned.
8:47Yeah, I understand.
8:51We're going to have a congested parking field.
8:54What's that?
8:54I said, I believe in looking at it, it's going to be a congested parking field when the state
9:00gets through.
9:00Yeah.
9:01Yeah.
9:01I mean, and I'm even open to.
9:04It's hard to say without really knowing.
9:06I mean, what exactly the state wants you to do.
9:09All we have is what their referral comments.
9:12Well, you said they're recommending it.
9:14Yeah.
9:15Yeah.
9:15It's the same.
9:17You know, when you look at it, the building is tilted.
9:21Mm-hmm.
9:21Even though when you.
9:22Yeah.
9:23It's tilted.
9:24So the natural, you see how the cars are parked, they're pulling up what looks like
9:28straight, but it's not.
9:29It's at an angle.
9:30How do you.
9:32It's hard.
9:34No.
9:34Even for me, if it was one way in and one.
9:36One way out, it might be a little bit easier, but we'd really have to see from the state.
9:39And like I said, if something changes in the interim and they go to DOT and DOT says, no,
9:43it's a, there's other circumstances at play here where this can't work.
9:48I don't have an issue with them coming to see.
9:50Matt, could they make more parking in the back if they wanted to with an.
9:55They could.
9:55Yeah.
9:55It's their whole lot.
9:56So they.
9:57So in other words, they do have an option.
9:58They do have an option.
9:59That one's fairly big.
10:02I mean, I understand the mobile, the mobile home is here, but there's a stone area here.
10:06I mean, there's opportunities to adjust and create adequate, more adequate parking facilities.
10:15A little bit of a pickle, but.
10:17Yeah, a little bit.
10:19Sort of where we're at.
10:23Do any of us have any other questions?
10:26No, I guess we have a resolution on it tonight, correct?
10:29Yeah.
10:29Yes.
10:29We sure do.
10:33That is it.
10:35Good night.
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10:37Thank you, Mr. Cuddy.
10:57Okay, let's move on to discussion item number two, Leo K. Group, 522-526 Pulaski Street with Heather.
11:06Okay.
11:07All right, so the planning department has received a site plan application seeking approval to legalize some alterations that were made to an existing building and site.
11:17The entire site is known as 522-526 Pulaski Street.
11:22It's on the corner of Pulaski Street and Sweezy Avenue in Polish Town.
11:27More particularly identified is Suffolk County Tax Note number 600-123-4-44.1.
11:35It's a little bit of a unique situation in that it's...
11:37It's a pre-existing mixed-use parcel, so it's never undergone any sort of formal site plan review.
11:45So as the site currently exists, there are two single-family dwellings.
11:50So one has access, like a walkway on Sweezy.
11:53That's, I think, 314 Sweezy.
11:55Then you have the single-family dwelling, the two-story on the corner of Sweezy and Pulaski.
12:01And then attached to that is a commercial building.
12:05I think the last...
12:07Known use on file with the building department was a butcher shop.
12:11And then the easternmost building is a two-story building with a first-floor office and then two apartments.
12:19There are also a couple of outbuildings.
12:21There's sort of a dilapidated frame shed and then a frame garage on the property.
12:26So as many of you might be aware already, there was a fire in building 522.
12:32You know, so the new owner who purchased the property got a permit.
12:37He had to repair some fire damage.
12:40Exterior alterations, including some facade work and storefront changes,
12:44new siding and roofing were made to 522 Pulaski Street.
12:46They also...
12:47Which is 522?
12:49The one all the way to the east.
12:52The one on the corner?
12:53No, so the two-story building on the eastern portion of the property.
12:57I think there was a western union in there at one point.
13:02So they do need to come in for site plan just to legalize.
13:07Those alterations they're also proposing.
13:09There was an apartment on the first floor of, I think it's 524.
13:16That's labeled building number four on the site plan.
13:19There was an apartment on the first floor.
13:20They're actually converting it back to entire retail on the first floor of that building.
13:26And that's a permitted use in Village Center.
13:29So they're not looking to establish any non-conforming uses.
13:32They're looking to continue what's on site and then get a conforming use into building number four.
13:37So that's why they're here for site plan.
13:39They did some selective clearing on the property, vegetation removal.
13:44They did replant arborvitaes along the property line on Pulaski Street.
13:51So they're here today to legalize these alterations and move forward in the process
13:57so they can get their proper building permits and COs.
14:00As part of the site plan review, this property is not within any parking district.
14:05I know that a lot of people park.
14:07They're on the road in Polish Town.
14:09A lot of people utilize the funeral home parking lot.
14:12But they do need to show parking on site.
14:16So based on the proposed uses, they are showing 13 stalls where I think they only required have 11
14:23in that stone blend parking area.
14:26There's currently a dirt driveway that comes off of Sweezy Avenue to access the rear of that property.
14:31They're showing that as a stone driveway.
14:33And I will note that in Village Center and Purview surface coverage,
14:37that is allowed up to 100%.
14:38So we're not looking at any sort of variances in terms of that.
14:44So just to go through my referrals.
14:48Heather, is there a handicap stall?
14:51Yep. So I'm getting to that.
14:53So in my review of the application, they did not show an accessible stall.
14:58So they're required to have at least one.
15:01So I'm asking that as part of any sort of approval.
15:04They have to revise the plans.
15:06Amongst other things.
15:07That they need to change is to put at least one accessible stall.
15:11So it'll have to be improved to ADA standards.
15:14In the back or is it going to be on Sweezy?
15:17I mean, so Sweezy and Pulaski are town roads.
15:21And you can't, you know, improve town roads without highway approval.
15:25But you also can't utilize on street parking for your required parking.
15:30That's an issue that people run into all the time.
15:34And again, this site has never been looked at in terms of any.
15:36Sort of site plan approval because it's all pre-existing.
15:39So I guess realistically, they would either have to try to fit one at the end of that stone driveway.
15:45Or they would have to put it probably like the most proximate stall to the buildings in the stone blend parking area.
15:52Obviously, we'll have to work that out with the design professionals.
15:55But I'm just I didn't designate a location.
15:58I want to see where they're going to put it.
16:00They'll have to adhere to ADA standards.
16:02So 10 by 20 parking stall improved with an eight foot wide access.
16:04So that's a good thing.
16:05So I'm just asking that.
16:06I'll head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head
16:36building number one is I'm imagining that if someone's gonna be utilizing one
16:41of those commercial uses they're probably gonna park on the street
16:44because it's the closest however in terms of site plan we can't count that
16:49towards a required parking so that and yes so I did refer it to the town
16:58engineer and he said that I received an email from him he determined that the
17:06plan was acceptable but we you know in discussing the stone blend parking area
17:11the only concern that he had was the underlying soils so that's why as a
17:16condition of the approval resolution I said you know any changes required by
17:20the town engineer any concerns should be addressed so it might be good for the
17:26applicant to provide a soil boring just to see what underlying soils are in that
17:31parking area because they're showing you know the five-inch stone blends and then
17:35the stable
17:36I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry
17:36soil base but if there's clay underneath that soil base there's nowhere for the
17:40water to percolate I will note that there's I couldn't find anything in town
17:45code as to when drainage is required especially in a stone blend parking area
17:51but if the soils don't allow for any drainage to occur we might want to see
17:56like a like some sort of additional leaching field even though the stone blend
18:01parking area they'll typically act as a leaching field themselves but the
18:06soils don't work with that then you're going to have water pooling so again it's
18:12an interesting site because it's never been looked at in terms of site plan and
18:15we want to make sure that they're providing parking pursuant to town code
18:18at the same time we don't want to create a drainage issue on the site is there
18:23any type of rule as to what size gravel that they use like you don't want small
18:31gravel think you wind up out into the street even then millions will crush
18:34concrete I think most of these are they can use crushed concrete or millings
18:38yeah I don't think we have anything specific I'd have to take a look at you
18:41know road and drainage standards but I don't think that covers stoneblend
18:46parking areas just wanted that this is a street where they're accessing from all
18:50of a sudden becoming littered with you know gravel and stone yeah I mean
18:55there's an existing sidewalk on Sweezy so there's a little bit of a transition
18:59there but right now they just have like a dirt dirt driveway that's you know
19:03it's uneven
19:04you know it's uneven
19:04you know it's uneven
19:04so anything to improve that area I think would be better than what's
19:09currently there and again they'll be showing the parking that they're
19:13required to provide because even though people park on the street it's not
19:17within a parking district so being a commercial site they have to put parking
19:22on site Heather the driveway is going to be a stone driveway and the parking
19:29area would also be a stone parking is that correct yeah they're calling out a
19:33stone blend
19:34okay like I said I don't know the specific materials that they're gonna
19:37use what are they what do they want to do with the rest of the area which is
19:41just dirt they're not they're not proposing anything else I know in my
19:45staff report I did make a recommendation that they do some additional planting so
19:50they have those are varieties planted along Pulaski Street since this site
19:54does a but strict residential uses especially by the parking area I would
20:00like to see some additional evergreen plantings just to create some additional
20:04so I would like to see so I would like to see so I would like to see so I would like to head head head
20:05between right like we talked about can we also ask them maybe just put any type of cover crop
20:11on that dirt area uh grass seed or something because it just yeah i mean once it's kind of
20:17unsightly keep in mind the construction was ongoing um you know again they're coming here
20:22to legalize what they started without the benefit of site plan approval so i'd imagine once
20:26everything is done they're not going to want to keep dirt there but i can certainly you know
20:31add that so i kept my one condition pretty general i put additional plantings to the
20:37satisfaction of the planning department so i think i could work in some sort of grass seed
20:41or something there just just to improve the remainder of the site um and then the other thing
20:48you know this is a mixed-use site so they're not served by the carter the town garbage carter
20:55they're required to have a private carter pick up their garbage there's no dumpster or trash
21:00enclosure little
21:01location on the site plan. So that's something I already spoke to the applicants representative
21:05about. They're going to have to show that amongst the other revisions that I'm asking for.
21:09And it'll have to be suitably screened. But you know you have a mix of residential and commercial
21:14here. So we don't want an open dumpster with residential waste in it. At the same time you
21:18know they might not need a large scale commercial dumpster on site. But we want it to look nice and
21:23orderly. So that's something that they're going to have to show on the site plan when they revise it.
21:26Does this meet the town's criteria for administrative site plan? Absolutely yeah. I mean
21:31based on what they did you know they did facade work to the one building. They're proposing
21:36a switch to retail in the existing building. Then they did some plantings and clearing. They're not
21:41doing any new building of any sort. It's all existing. Again it's an interesting parcel.
21:48But a lot of the parcels in Polishtown are like that. So I expect that if we get other projects
21:53in the future especially if we do some sort of corridor study
21:56we want to make sure that we have a good quality of the building. So I think that's something that
21:56we want to make sure that everybody's in conformance with town code. That their uses are consistent with
22:01what we're looking for in Village Center. So based upon the scope of work that they're proposing it's
22:07definitely if it's the criteria for administrative review. So no public hearing. They do have to go
22:15to the architectural review board. The anticipated meeting date is next Wednesday Matt? The 22nd?
22:22Yeah so the 22nd. So ARB will review the as-built elevations.
22:26So essentially what they did to the building on the western side. They took out the brick facade.
22:33I wish we could get them to put the Polish shutters or decorative shutters in there. That would look nice.
22:43Yeah well see what the ARB comes back with. Again it's not a significant deviation from what was
22:49there. The materials are different but they didn't add any square footage to the building. They didn't
22:55you know significantly change the story. So that's something that we're looking at. So I think that's a good point.
22:56Yeah.
22:56So the building is going to be a little bit more of a
23:26So it's there's 522, 524, 526. Those are the buildings that have frontage on Pulaski and then 314 Sweezy is in the back.
23:35I understand. But 522 shows multiple gas meters.
23:40Yeah so it has two apartments that were existing.
23:42Two apartments.
23:43Two apartments and then the commercial is the they're calling it an office. Like I said I think it was most recently used for a western union in the front. So it makes sense that they would have multiple meters.
23:55No no I understand that. But.
23:55So my question is really the other. See what that would be. That would be 526. 526 is listed as being six bedrooms correct?
24:08Two story frame house.
24:10Yeah six. How many apartments are in there?
24:12It's just a single family dwelling with six bedrooms. So there shouldn't be any separate dwelling units.
24:18What about the requirements for fire escape in that one? We've already had a problem at that address.
24:23I think that had to deal with three. Three.
24:25Three story dwellings. I did refer this to the fire marshal and he hasn't gotten me any official correspondence yet. But they're not proposing any changes there and I don't think they met the code changes that occurred.
24:39And Eric maybe you can help me out with this. Dealt with three third stories.
24:43Yeah they're pre-existing non conforming third stories that are under a rental permit.
24:50Okay.
24:51Yeah.
24:51And I mean they will need to get all of the applicable rental permits.
24:53Okay.
24:53Okay.
24:53[transcription gap]
24:56Okay.
25:12Okay.
25:12and then as far as lighting is concerned they're not proposing anything new um but i am recommending
25:18that or requiring that they submit some documentation just to show that the existing
25:22pictures on the buildings are all dark style compliant um they appear to be but i wasn't
25:27there late at night so i'd like to just make sure that they're not causing any light trespass to
25:32other properties um other than that i mean you know we're really waiting on the arb and then
25:39they have to make some changes pursuant to comments and my recommendations if the board
25:44has any other recommendations i told the representative for the application i would
25:49certainly let them know that they would they could just do one wholesale revision before signature
25:54yeah and i think we need to see excuse me i think we need to see more landscaping on that
26:01on that um eastern side because it if you look at the two photos 23 looks a lot better than 24
26:10and what happened you know i mean you you were you were pretty nice about clearing it wasn't
26:16clearing they they wiped out it all pretty much i looked at some of the the photos that they had in
26:23the real estate listing this was after the fire had occurred the property was up for sale a lot
26:28of it was overgrown brush but again you know good landscaping having trees along the eastern and
26:34northern property boundaries particularly evergreens i think would definitely
26:39clean it up a little bit and also allow for some buffering between this and the residential uses
26:45because as you all know this is how the property is now but it's village center so if someone wants
26:51to come in with a different use you know potentially another commercial use you you
26:55want to make sure that you have those established buffers between the residential properties
27:01okay so i have a resolution on to approve with sort of a laundry list of conditions that they'll
27:07need to satisfy prior to signature and uh
27:09other than that we'll see what the arb says okay very good um discussion item number three
27:15waves llc medical offices site plan with greg
27:24thank you so this is just a quick follow-up discussion on the seven waves llc medical office
27:31site plan which is the last vacant parcel in the warsaw park commerce drive subdivision on the
27:37north side of 58. um
27:39i did have a conversation with richard israel the project sponsor uh in my staff report i
27:45initially proposed the sidewalks and we did have some discussion regarding sidewalks
27:50after discussing with mr israel i looked at the existing subdivision which currently has
27:57no sidewalks throughout the entire subdivision with the exception of the
28:02harley davidson justin can we just zoom out a little bit
28:08so the entire
28:09subdivision the commerce drive medical office park was all built out there's no sidewalks
28:14anywhere in that subdivision again with the exception of the harley davidson dealer across
28:18the street um all of these street trees that were installed and planted in that subdivision
28:26are actually right within the right of way where a sidewalk would go so the realities of installing
28:31sidewalks is something that's not necessarily realistic at this point while it is a good
28:37planning tool creating sidewalks we don't know how to do that but we do know how to do that and we'll see how we can do that in the next few weeks.
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28:39so so
28:40so so
28:57There's no sidewalks or any connection to facilitate it anywhere.
29:01This would be like the post office.
29:05It's just there. Everything else on either side is nothing.
29:09And you see them all the time. The sidewalks to nowhere.
29:13It creates a maintenance issue where in the event of a snowstorm
29:17they've got to go out and shovel that walkway, which really would serve no purpose.
29:21I didn't want to beat the dead horse with the bush, so to speak.
29:25So I'm willing to sort of yield on the sidewalk. However, where I do
29:29feel is very, our last sort of chance
29:33to facilitate any formal future cross access.
29:37I do recommend, and the preliminary approval resolution as before you
29:41for this afternoon requires to show the location of a future
29:45cross access. It could be facilitated here. Now, I do understand
29:49that the Warners Plaza to the west
29:53that location is sort of behind the building.
29:57It wouldn't really be known. Again, we would just be requiring a
30:01future cross access. We can't compel that neighboring property owner to come in and
30:05push through until such time that they come in for any type of site plan application.
30:09That being said, this is kind of the last crack that we have
30:13to get any type of cross access. So it's better than nothing.
30:17It would have obviously been more appropriate at probably the Panera
30:21as it's located.
30:23I think it's a little bit more along 58. People are more aware of it.
30:27I did have the conversation with Mr. Israel. He will look to facilitate that cross access
30:31at a later date if it's possible through the Panera property.
30:35Which again, that way people shopping in Warners Plaza, if they're looking to travel east on 58
30:39they can in theory go from Warners through the Panera.
30:43Does he own the Panera? Yes, he does.
30:47So again, that property is not under site plan review.
30:51There's no method to compel them within the resolution. That being said, Mr. Israel has always
30:55been a man of his word in at least my dealings. So I'll take his word for it.
30:59And I did also, there were some recommendations
31:03the southbound travel lanes coming off of Commerce Drive onto 58
31:07previously there were no stripings or no delineations.
31:11They worked with the county. The county came in and did the measurements.
31:15They did restripe that intersection coming off of Commerce Drive onto 58
31:19so now there are defined lanes of travel rather than just sort of a free for all
31:23and like who's turning left, who's turning right. So it just provides a little bit more order there.
31:27So do have the preliminary approval resolution on.
31:31You know, they've got to get the standard stuff. They need the storm water pollution prevention plan.
31:35They'll need to come in to show the future cross access.
31:39Beyond that, once that stuff's done, we can move on to a final.
31:43So is that conversation that you have with Mr. Israel, is that reflected in your resolution?
31:47So again, this is a discussion that we're having with Mr. Israel.
31:49The conversation regarding Panera, it's not really, there's no mechanism
31:53because this is not in any way on the site plan review.
31:57So it was really a gentleman's conversation. Like I said, I'll take his word for it.
32:01He's always done right by us. So I will, again, I do have the language
32:05in there about the future cross access on this piece just because it is the last shot
32:09that we have. It's better than nothing if nothing ever comes out of it.
32:13We have the ability to do it. At least we have something.
32:17Greg, I
32:19agree with you. We talked about it. It's actually a better spot for the cross
32:23access. If it's taken in good faith and you trust Mr. Israel, I'm fine with that.
32:29I think it's a better place for it. So I think it's the way to go.
32:35All right. Everybody good?
32:37Good.
32:39Okay. Moving right along. Straight air, Greg. We need you up here again.
32:41Yep.
32:43Number four, Overlook Homes, major subdivision.
32:49Okay.
32:51As most of the board will remember, we do have a. This was the major subdivision of Overlook
32:59Homes, which is located on Overlook Drive and Akribog. The board approved the final
33:05flat for the major subdivision back in August of 2021. Since then, the applicants got health
33:11department approval. The map has been filed. They've been doing the work. There was the requirement
33:17roadway improvements within that subdivision Vinnie Gordiello did
33:21initially prepare that performance bond in the amount of two hundred and eighty
33:25three thousand dollars which was posted to the which was accepted by the town
33:29board back in the 20 to early 2024 the applicant has undergone significant
33:35construction on that roadway Vinnie did a follow-up inspection to gauge the
33:41status of that he did prepare a revised performance security estimate dated
33:45January 2nd it identified the items completed to date as well as the
33:50outstanding items and indicated that that performance bond should be reduced
33:53to two hundred and fourteen thousand dollars from the original two hundred
33:57and eighty three thousand so we have a resolution to recommend the reduction of
34:01that performance bond that resolution gets transmitted to the town board and
34:06then the town board would authorize a resolution authorizing a refund of a
34:10portion of that performance bond so they're well on their way that roadway I
34:14know I would
34:15gotten a lot of calls from residents down there they were very very
34:18interested in when the construction was going to start so he's well on his way
34:22okay all right Greg we have a item number five
34:33Calvin industrial park LLC for minor subdivision
34:39and we're going to go ahead and get this done
34:46so we're going to go ahead and get this done
34:50Justin can we zoom out a bit so we can get this whole
34:55thank you
34:58alright
35:01so this is a follow-up on a minor industrial subdivision and we're going to go ahead and get this done
35:09so this is a middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle
35:39Back then, it was Zone Industrial A. Since the adoption of that preliminary approval resolution, the town board recently, as a follow-up to the comprehensive plan update, they did rezone this area to Calverton Industrial.
35:54It did not change the lot sizes or the minimum lot size requirements. Although the zoning district did change, the minimum lot size stayed the same, so all of the lots within this subdivision still meet the minimum dimensional requirements for the new Calverton Industrial Zone.
36:13There were some minor changes to the sizes of the lots within the subdivision.
36:21For example, the original map had lot dimensions.
36:24The original map showed that this headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland head
36:542.24 acres now shown as 13.42 acres. Again, all the lots still comply with the minimum dimensional requirements for the Calverton Industrial Subdivision,
37:04the Calverton Industrial Zoning District, and the
37:08shifting around of sizes within the subdivision did not change the overall allowable build-out within the subdivision.
37:14You know, it just means that you could build a little bit more on lot two,
37:18but you're getting a little bit less on lot three.
37:20So the overall total build-out that the board reviewed and did their analysis on, the total build-out didn't change.
37:27It just sort of shifts around a little bit of the development within the subdivision.
37:31So the initial analysis is consistent with the negative declaration that we issued.
37:37The proposed access to the subdivision is going to be along the eastern property boundary.
37:42That is going to be a private road. It is not going to be dedicated to the town.
37:48It will be developed to the industrial world.
37:50It will be based on road standards.
37:52It will need to be kept clear.
37:55Mr. Cuddy did provide some draft language regarding that easement and access.
37:59I did have, there were some conversations back and forth with the town attorney's office.
38:03They made some recommendations just to that language.
38:06But that will serve as the access to the
38:10rear end of the subdivision. It's presumed that that road would get built out as we get an application.
38:18We did have the condition, even though these lots will now
38:20no longer front directly on 25, any of these developments on these, you know, either lots 2, 3, or 4
38:27will be referred to the DOT for their review and comment because they are exiting obviously onto Middle Country Road.
38:35That's it. I mean they got help.
38:36Is it going to be storage again?
38:37What's that?
38:38Is it going to be another storage building?
38:39I don't know if this, I'm not aware of any particular.
38:43That's what I understand.
38:46I mean there are a pretty wide range of permitted uses in the Calverton Industrial Zoning District.
38:50We now have a use table.
38:53So really any conforming use could come in for a development application.
38:57I did speak with a couple of the members
39:00regarding future cross-access.
39:03Within our subdivision code, there's no requirement for future cross-access when we do a subdivision plat.
39:10Future cross-access is something that we could facilitate when any of these lots come in for future development.
39:15The thought being that, you know, you've got, if there was a way to facilitate a cross-access,
39:20you could put a traffic out to Edwards Avenue rather than put additional traffic out to Middle Country Road
39:25that would make a left onto Edwards even though that intersection is going to be improved in the near future.
39:29It would just be a nice relief valve where if a truck or a car exiting the site has the ability to get out to Edwards.
39:36So that's something that we can address when they actually come in for site plan where it is a requirement.
39:42Beyond that, they got the Health Department approval.
39:45They satisfied all the conditions of that preliminary plat. So we have a
39:49resolution on to authorize the approval of the final plat.
39:54We have, did we get engineering review?
39:59We would have gotten engineering review back when we did this in 2019.
40:06This would have been referred to Vinnie Gordiello at that point and I mean we wouldn't have
40:12wouldn't have approved it without any type of engineering review.
40:19We would have gotten head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head
40:49engineering plans
40:51Engineering comments great just the
40:53The change in lot sizes
40:55Everything's been recorded for the tax map to Suffolk County
40:59Well, so upon the signature of the final plat the map will get filed with Suffolk County. Oh, okay. Okay
41:06Okay. Yeah, this is where we've got a resolution on to approve the final plat
41:11and we have learned just through prior subdivisions in terms of the
41:15Sequencing of events that needs to happen when easements are filed on subdivisions
41:20basically, the subdivision map has to get filed and then the owner can file the
41:27covenants on that property because essentially the county clerk won't let you file a
41:31You know declaration or a covenant on a parcel that doesn't exist yet
41:35so there is language in there and it's going to be standard language going forward that
41:40We're going to authorize signature of the map upon the filing
41:44Signature of the map it'll be filed with the county clerk
41:47There's language in here that says will not accept any type of site plan development
41:51Applications until that language regarding the easement and the covenants is recorded
41:56Just to have a little safeguard that we don't you know, nothing really gets away from us
42:00Okay. So this this is the final subdivision. These lots will not be subdivided. Oh again. Is that accurate?
42:06I mean, they could be subdivided with you know with a further review from the Planning Board again chain, you know if lot two, which right?
42:13Now is seven point three acres if they wanted to come in and split that into two
42:18They you'd get into three and a half acre Lots which care again wouldn't if anything it would probably
42:24Decrease the amount of allowable because then you're dealing with additional setbacks
42:28So really any further subdivision is just if they have a smaller tenant they want to you know
42:33Chop up the lots a little more they would need to come into the Planning Board for another sub
42:38But if they did that Greg you go from a minor to a major subdivision after four or after five
42:43If they can
42:45Without a major subdivision is five or more. So would they have to improve the easement?
42:51also, just thinking this
42:53So I mean, I don't want I don't want to kind of go back into history. But the way this was done
42:59Again, the road itself is gonna have to be a sufficient with
43:03to facilitate the industrial traffic, but up in the northeast corner of this property is
43:10There's a little substation a little electrical
43:13switch
43:14which I'm assuming is the
43:17Feed from the solar farm how it ties into the grid
43:20so the location of that just from the initial planning standpoint sort of
43:27precluded us from designing a
43:29Fully compliant industrial roadway that would be suitable for dedication to the town
43:35Which is why we went through the 55 foot wide access easements
43:43Guess good
43:47All right, thanks Greg
43:50We're gonna move on to
43:53Discussion item number six Kathy Lane LLC made subdivision only known as Northwalk developers
44:13At the end of your presentation, would you be willing to say it on the record about the memorial?
44:20Thank you
44:25All right
44:40All right, so
44:42wrapping up another long-standing application that we've got
44:45This is the final plat for a major sub major residential subdivision known as Kathy Lane LLC, which was formerly Norfolk developers LLC
44:56This is an approximately 13 acre piece of property which is located east of rabbit run at the end of the existing dead end of Kathy Lane
45:05This goes back to the planning board granted the preliminary plat approval back in November of 2021
45:12for a 10 lot major residential subdivision
45:15The original approved yield on this subdivision map was 11 lots the applicant at that time
45:21voluntarily reduced the density to
45:24Comply with the Long Island Workforce Housing Act. So these will be all market rate
45:29So the preliminary plat included like there was requirements for there's a several temporary grading and drainage easements within the
45:39right-of-way
45:40There's a 35 foot
45:42There's an existing drainage swale on the east end of the property
45:46We require language for that drainage swale
45:49There's also a common driveway easement, which is going to serve lot numbers three and four
45:55So the applicant has prepared those they've been reviewed by the town attorney's office the town attorney's office has signed off on them
46:03The applicant did receive approval from the Health Department back in June
46:09They received approval for their stormwater pollution
46:12prevention plan
46:13in August of 2023
46:16so we have a
46:18resolution on to approve the final plat
46:21subject to the
46:24obviously the filing of the covenants a
46:27Performance bond for the roadway improvements, which will be prepared by the board's consulting engineer
46:34payment of the fee for the chapter 229 excavation permit which shows an excavation of approximately
46:42799 cubic yards of soil
46:44And there's also park and rec fees in the amount of $5,000 per lot within the subdivision
46:50and again
46:52Sequencing in terms of filing those covenants the map will get filed with the county clerk and then they can file those easements on that
47:01On the map again. I do have language in here that just says no building permit shall issue until those covenants are recorded on the property
47:09again, just as a safeguard so
47:12This gets another another application that's been around for a little while gets it over the finish line
47:17Allows for the recording and signature of the map
47:21Has okay, we have a resolution on for a little bit later. Thank you
47:27We're gonna go into public comments now Miss Judge if you would come up and tell she you're complete
47:34Tell us what's going on with your project
47:39Kimberly Judge 737 améric Ave
47:41this is not in reference to a project that I'm doing before the Planning Board.
47:45It's just to advise the Board that the Suffolk County Historical Society here in Riverhead,
47:50known as the museum, they're doing a Grumman exhibit.
47:53They've had two curators who are going to be working on the project
47:57and they're soliciting artifacts from any former employees, family members.
48:04I know there were a lot of engineers, a lot of people in Riverhead that worked there.
48:07Riverhead Roto used to do the barbecue every year.
48:10They found quite a few pictures and artifacts and so forth
48:14that the museum will be displaying.
48:17They will do a exhibit and the person lending
48:21or loaning the artifacts would have to agree to exhibit them for one year.
48:26And if there's anybody that's interested, please contact me.
48:29I would be very happy to help out and put you in touch with Victoria Berger,
48:36who is the Executive Director over at the Historical Society.
48:40And she looks forward to exhibiting this.
48:44John Aucott, Jr.: Yeah, that's great.
48:45I'm looking forward to it.
48:47When is it going to start?
48:48Do you know?
48:49Victoria Berger, Jr.: They don't know yet because we're still putting it in.
48:50But I don't know if the Board recalls Port Jefferson Library did a Grumman exhibit quite
48:56a few years ago.
48:57So the same two individuals who curated that project for Port Jefferson,
49:02they're doing it for the Historical Society here in Riverhead.
49:06John Aucott, Jr.: Okay.
49:07Keep us informed.
49:09Thank you very much.
49:10And I'm going to ask everybody, engineers, employees, people who worked in personnel,
49:14thank you.
49:15John Aucott, Jr.: Thank you.
49:16John Aucott, Jr.: Public comments?
49:17Anybody else?
49:18Okay.
49:19Gentlemen, let's move into resolutions.
49:20John Aucott, Jr.: I'll move Resolution 2025-002, Prisco, Calvert and Acres, the resolution
49:29granting minor approval for the subdivision.
49:32So moved.
49:33Second.
49:34John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded.
49:35Mr. Zelnicki?
49:36Yes.
49:37John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Hogan?
49:38Yes.
49:39John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Nannero?
49:32Aye.
49:28John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Baer?
49:38Yes.
49:40John Aucott, Jr.: And I vote aye.
49:41The motion carries.
49:42John Aucott, Jr.: I'll move Resolution 2025-003, grants administrative approval to Leo K. Group.
49:48Second.
49:49John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded.
49:52Mr. Zelnicki?
49:53Yes.
49:54John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Hogan?
49:55Yes.
49:56John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Nannero?
49:57Aye.
49:58John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Baer?
49:59Yes.
50:00John Aucott, Jr.: And I vote aye.
50:01The motion carries.
50:02John Aucott, Jr.: I move Resolution Number 2025-004, Overlook Homes Major Subdivision,
50:04Performance Security Reduction Number 1, Resolution Recommending Performance Security Reduction
50:10Subdivision, approved by the Planning Board by resolution.
50:13John Aucott, Jr.: Second.
50:14John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded.
50:15Mr. Zelnicki?
50:16Yes.
50:17John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Hogan?
50:18Yes.
50:19John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Nannero?
50:20Aye.
50:21John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Baer?
50:22Yes.
50:23John Aucott, Jr.: And I vote aye.
50:24The motion carries.
50:25John Aucott, Jr.: Resolution 2025-005, Calverton Industrial Park LLC, Resolution granting approval
50:29for a final plant for a four-lot minor subdivision.
50:33John Aucott, Jr.: Second.
50:34John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded.
50:36Mr. Zelnicki?
50:37Yes.
50:38John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Hogan?
50:40Yes.
50:41John Aucott, Jr.: And I vote aye.
50:42The motion carries.
50:43John Aucott, Jr.: I move Resolution 2025-006 for 27 Waves LLC, granting preliminary approval
50:50for the site plan application.
50:52So moved.
50:53John Aucott, Jr.: Second.
50:54John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded.
50:55Mr. Zelnicki?
50:56Yes.
50:57John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Hogan?
50:58Yes.
50:59John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Nannero?
51:00Aye.
51:01John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Baer?
51:02Yes.
51:03John Aucott, Jr.: And I vote aye.
51:04The motion carries.
51:05John Aucott, Jr.: I move Resolution number 20-025, Resolution number 7, grants approval
51:06for the final plant for a 10-lot subdivision for Cathy Lowe.
51:10Second.
51:11John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded.
51:12Mr. Zelnicki?
51:13Yes.
51:14John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Hogan?
51:15Yes.
51:16John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Nannero?
51:17Aye.
51:18John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Baer?
51:19Yes.
51:20John Aucott, Jr.: And I vote aye.
51:21The motion carries.
51:22Okay.
51:23That's the end of resolutions.
51:24We open up to public comments for anybody.
51:25Okay.
51:26No secret actions today, Greg?
51:27All right.
51:28Somebody want to move some minutes?
51:29Greg Nassar, Director of the Center for Public Relations and the Department of
51:30Transportation, November 21, 2024
51:31I'll move the minutes of November 21, 2024.
51:32So moved.
51:33John Aucott, Jr.: Second.
51:34Second.
51:35John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded.
51:36All in favor?
51:37Aye.
51:38John Aucott, Jr.: All opposed?
51:39Motion carries.
51:40I'll move resolution.
51:41I'll move Planning Board Minutes of December 5, 2024.
51:42Second.
51:43John Aucott, Jr.: Before we get going on that.
51:44I'm sorry?
51:45Were we on December 19th?
51:46We're doing December 5th.
51:47John Aucott, Jr.: Oh, okay.
51:48All right.
51:49Never mind.
51:50Okay.
51:51December 5th.
51:52Moved and seconded.
51:53All in favor?
51:54Aye.
51:55John Aucott, Jr.: All opposed?
51:56Now December 5th.
51:57All in favor?
51:58Aye.
51:59John Aucott, Jr.: All opposed?
52:00All in favor?
52:01Aye.
52:02John Aucott, Jr.: All opposed?
52:03All in favor?
52:04All opposed?
52:05Now December 19th.
52:06John Aucott, Jr.: Now December 19th.
52:07Now December 19th.
52:08So December 19th, there is a…
52:09John Aucott, Jr.: I'll move resolution number.
52:10Hold on one second, John.
52:11John Aucott, Jr.: Hold on one second, John.
52:12John Aucott, Jr.: What's that?
52:13Hold on one second.
52:14John Aucott, Jr.: So we just have to correct the minutes because the Board voted on one
52:19resolution twice.
52:20Yeah, nine to six.
52:21John Aucott, Jr.: There was one that should have come off the table, and it did come off
52:25the table, but then it wasn't voted on.
52:28So we're just going to make a motion to correct the minutes to reflect that resolution.
52:32John Aucott, Jr.: Okay.
52:33John Aucott, Jr.: So the motion 54 was moved off the table.
52:35It was moved and seconded, and then it was voted with approval instead of voting on 96
52:42twice.
52:43Okay.
52:44Very good.
52:45Thank you for the clarification.
52:46Somebody want to move that?
52:47John Aucott, Jr.: I'll move December 19th minutes as amended.
52:50Second.
52:51John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded.
52:52All in favor?
52:53Aye.
52:54John Aucott, Jr.: Aye.
52:55All opposed?
52:56Motion carries.
52:57Staff, any other business?
52:58Aye.
52:59John Aucott, Jr.: All in favor?
53:00All in favor?
53:01Aye.
53:02Second.
53:03John Aucott, Jr.: Aye.
53:04Second.
53:05John Aucott, Jr.: Aye.
53:06Second.
53:07John Aucott, Jr.: Aye.
53:08Second.
53:09John Aucott, Jr.: Aye.
53:10Second.
53:11John Aucott, Jr.: Aye.
53:12Second.
53:13John Aucott, Jr.: Aye.
53:14Second.
53:15John Aucott, Jr.: Aye.
53:16Second.
53:17John Aucott, Jr.: Aye.
53:18Second.
53:19John Aucott, Jr.: Aye.
53:20Second.
53:21John Aucott, Jr.: Aye.
53:22Second.
53:23John Aucott, Jr.: Aye.
53:24Second.
53:25John Aucott, Jr.: Aye.
53:26Second.
53:27John Aucott, Jr.: Aye.
53:28Second.
53:29John Aucott, Jr.: Aye.
53:30Second.
53:316 p.m.
53:33Anybody want to close the meeting?
53:34Motion to close.
53:35Second.
53:36All in favor?
53:37Aye.
53:38Aye.
53:39All opposed?
53:41You can stay here if you're opposed.
53:44Thank you, everybody.
53:45Have a great day.
54:01Thank you.

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Okay, we have no public hearings today, so we're going to go right to discussion items. Number one is Prisco's Calpton Acres with Matt Charters. Good afternoon, board. I'll invite Charles Cuddy up. I'll invite the applicant's attorney on this. If everyone recalls, we did have a public hearing at our last playing board meeting for this application. It's a two-lot subdivision in Calverton. If the board recalls, this is a wine country deli location, which is on lot one. Justin, if we could go to the eye in the sky, please, with an existing mobile home. And then the back lot, which is lot two, is currently in ag production. There's nursery stock there. Okay. [transcription gap] Okay. Okay. Okay. these lots um what i think the d.o.t is probably after uh just because their comments were not very you know didn't explain much but this is the calvertine post office on this property uh as you can see one point of access curving and a sidewalk that's generally what the d.o.t will ask for on development projects so in your packet vinnie's comments are pretty explicit what needs to be done um so here between for lots one and two uh there'll be a common driveway easement that runs the length of the flagpole and the width of that driveway is what matt uh so it'll have to meet whatever is necessary for two-way traffic so that's 24 feet wide generally i wouldn't have an issue as as it's improved because it's potentially just going back to a single family residence that i got more narrow which is fine but the d.o.t the d.o.t has very helpful standard sheets uh that's really plug and play for an engineer and how they need to be designed what the curb cut width needs to be um in the resolution these are all it's covenanted that it has to be a common driveway uh there's several map revisions that need to be done and then the d.o.t work will need to happen before signature of plans because that's really our hook for subdivision reveal

other than that it's pretty straightforward approval this uh application they're going to be curb cuts then a single curb cut for both lots so generally right in this area well i can't see my hand i can't do we normally do curbs and uh it's a sidewalks during a subdivision process so the issue is this is what the state's requiring the applicant is in quote has i believe tom wolfer who's the design professional from young and young is reaching out to the state to see exactly what they want because because i believe in the report it said they recommended it they do um it's their road though so i'm going to stick to whatever there's what their recommendation is i'd hate to say don't do it and then whatever they do on this property the state's just going to make you do it after the fact um as of now i don't think we have a mandate from the state yeah i think we just have a proposal it's stuck it's you know to an extent it's lines on a map but from a planning perspective We go back to the photo. It's a little bit of a free-for-all. I know it's a small deli, but you've got people backing up into traffic. It's going on. So you say he's going to have to stripe it? He's going to have to stripe it. It's pretty small, so I think it only generates about three parking spaces just because of the size of the deli. Yeah, I know. This is a busy place. But it's busy. So there's people sort of parked everywhere. As you can see, they're leading into the farm field. I mean, nothing's really right overhead. You know, some people do park over here. But this will allow good circulation if there's a curb. There's enough room to come around and then back out the front. It's an expense, but this is unfortunately. So it'll just be a single driveway. Single driveway, yep. Shared access for both lots. That's always what the state does. I'm just curious how he's going to be able to lay this parking lot out. I know. It's tight. It's going to be a challenge because the way it works now is people go in and out pretty regularly without too much problem. Yeah. Yeah. But again, we don't know if the state is going to demand that we do it. Yeah, I mean. We don't have a problem with the entranceway. I mean, that's not the deal. But the curbing. Yeah. We don't know for sure if they're going to require curbing and sidewalks. They're definitely going to require a shared access point. But how does that work if you don't have curbs? Yeah. If it's not a single curb. Because if they're saying, hey, you have a common driveway, but then nothing changes, you're still going to go wherever you want. Yeah. I just don't know if we're creating a bigger problem by doing that. But this is unfortunately what happens in a land use application when you come in for something like this. I concur with that. I think we're going to create a much, much bigger problem there. Yeah. I mean, the way I see it, it's not a buyer be aware situation. But when you go to improve your, you're seeking to do something to your property. And in this case, I mean, there's variance requires. There's a site plan application. There's a subdivision application that's before us. That's the really, the only hook is making this happen prior to signature. And it's the state's road. It's there right away. They kind of dictate what goes on. I'm curious to what they say upon further application if they want to make, you know, have sidewalks and curbs going. And then if they say otherwise, I don't have an issue with the app if you're coming back to seek a modification. I see that the post office does have. Yeah. So there's room. But yet on the west side, there's no curb. No. No. And that's. Unfortunately, that's how the state and even the DOT really operate. It's sort of ad hoc is as these sites come in for development or redevelopment, they make you improve. They sort of pass the buck. Probably normally during site plan process, not subdivision. Yeah. I just am very concerned that we're creating a bigger problem. I understand. It's not lost on me, but I don't. It's not really our barely like some. The post office doesn't receive any ways near the amount of traffic. Yeah. All right. Sure. Yeah. From a planning. Perspective, one point of access way safer and way more controlled than having just a wide open curb cut. I understand the functions properly now, but it takes one person backing into traffic to get T-boned. Yeah, I understand.

We're going to have a congested parking field. What's that? I said, I believe in looking at it, it's going to be a congested parking field when the state gets through. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and I'm even open to. It's hard to say without really knowing. I mean, what exactly the state wants you to do. All we have is what their referral comments. Well, you said they're recommending it. Yeah. Yeah. It's the same. You know, when you look at it, the building is tilted. Mm-hmm. Even though when you. Yeah. It's tilted. So the natural, you see how the cars are parked, they're pulling up what looks like straight, but it's not. It's at an angle. How do you. It's hard. No. Even for me, if it was one way in and one. One way out, it might be a little bit easier, but we'd really have to see from the state. And like I said, if something changes in the interim and they go to DOT and DOT says, no, it's a, there's other circumstances at play here where this can't work. I don't have an issue with them coming to see. Matt, could they make more parking in the back if they wanted to with an. They could. Yeah. It's their whole lot. So they. So in other words, they do have an option. They do have an option. That one's fairly big. I mean, I understand the mobile, the mobile home is here, but there's a stone area here. I mean, there's opportunities to adjust and create adequate, more adequate parking facilities.

A little bit of a pickle, but. Yeah, a little bit. Sort of where we're at. Do any of us have any other questions? No, I guess we have a resolution on it tonight, correct? Yeah. Yes. We sure do. That is it. Good night. [transcription gap] Thank you, Mr. Cuddy. Okay, let's move on to discussion item number two, Leo K. Group, 522-526 Pulaski Street with Heather. Okay. All right, so the planning department has received a site plan application seeking approval to legalize some alterations that were made to an existing building and site. The entire site is known as 522-526 Pulaski Street. It's on the corner of Pulaski Street and Sweezy Avenue in Polish Town. More particularly identified is Suffolk County Tax Note number 600-123-4-44.1. It's a little bit of a unique situation in that it's... It's a pre-existing mixed-use parcel, so it's never undergone any sort of formal site plan review. So as the site currently exists, there are two single-family dwellings. So one has access, like a walkway on Sweezy. That's, I think, 314 Sweezy. Then you have the single-family dwelling, the two-story on the corner of Sweezy and Pulaski. And then attached to that is a commercial building. I think the last... Known use on file with the building department was a butcher shop. And then the easternmost building is a two-story building with a first-floor office and then two apartments. There are also a couple of outbuildings. There's sort of a dilapidated frame shed and then a frame garage on the property. So as many of you might be aware already, there was a fire in building 522. You know, so the new owner who purchased the property got a permit. He had to repair some fire damage. Exterior alterations, including some facade work and storefront changes, new siding and roofing were made to 522 Pulaski Street. They also... Which is 522? The one all the way to the east. The one on the corner? No, so the two-story building on the eastern portion of the property. I think there was a western union in there at one point. So they do need to come in for site plan just to legalize. Those alterations they're also proposing. There was an apartment on the first floor of, I think it's 524. That's labeled building number four on the site plan. There was an apartment on the first floor. They're actually converting it back to entire retail on the first floor of that building. And that's a permitted use in Village Center. So they're not looking to establish any non-conforming uses. They're looking to continue what's on site and then get a conforming use into building number four. So that's why they're here for site plan. They did some selective clearing on the property, vegetation removal. They did replant arborvitaes along the property line on Pulaski Street. So they're here today to legalize these alterations and move forward in the process so they can get their proper building permits and COs. As part of the site plan review, this property is not within any parking district. I know that a lot of people park. They're on the road in Polish Town. A lot of people utilize the funeral home parking lot. But they do need to show parking on site. So based on the proposed uses, they are showing 13 stalls where I think they only required have 11 in that stone blend parking area. There's currently a dirt driveway that comes off of Sweezy Avenue to access the rear of that property. They're showing that as a stone driveway. And I will note that in Village Center and Purview surface coverage, that is allowed up to 100%. So we're not looking at any sort of variances in terms of that.

So just to go through my referrals. Heather, is there a handicap stall? Yep. So I'm getting to that. So in my review of the application, they did not show an accessible stall. So they're required to have at least one. So I'm asking that as part of any sort of approval. They have to revise the plans. Amongst other things. That they need to change is to put at least one accessible stall. So it'll have to be improved to ADA standards. In the back or is it going to be on Sweezy? I mean, so Sweezy and Pulaski are town roads. And you can't, you know, improve town roads without highway approval. But you also can't utilize on street parking for your required parking. That's an issue that people run into all the time. And again, this site has never been looked at in terms of any. Sort of site plan approval because it's all pre-existing. So I guess realistically, they would either have to try to fit one at the end of that stone driveway. Or they would have to put it probably like the most proximate stall to the buildings in the stone blend parking area. Obviously, we'll have to work that out with the design professionals. But I'm just I didn't designate a location. I want to see where they're going to put it. They'll have to adhere to ADA standards. So 10 by 20 parking stall improved with an eight foot wide access. So that's a good thing. So I'm just asking that. 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sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry soil base but if there's clay underneath that soil base there's nowhere for the water to percolate I will note that there's I couldn't find anything in town code as to when drainage is required especially in a stone blend parking area but if the soils don't allow for any drainage to occur we might want to see like a like some sort of additional leaching field even though the stone blend parking area they'll typically act as a leaching field themselves but the soils don't work with that then you're going to have water pooling so again it's an interesting site because it's never been looked at in terms of site plan and we want to make sure that they're providing parking pursuant to town code at the same time we don't want to create a drainage issue on the site is there any type of rule as to what size gravel that they use like you don't want small gravel think you wind up out into the street even then millions will crush concrete I think most of these are they can use crushed concrete or millings yeah I don't think we have anything specific I'd have to take a look at you know road and drainage standards but I don't think that covers stoneblend parking areas just wanted that this is a street where they're accessing from all of a sudden becoming littered with you know gravel and stone yeah I mean there's an existing sidewalk on Sweezy so there's a little bit of a transition there but right now they just have like a dirt dirt driveway that's you know it's uneven you know it's uneven you know it's uneven so anything to improve that area I think would be better than what's currently there and again they'll be showing the parking that they're required to provide because even though people park on the street it's not within a parking district so being a commercial site they have to put parking on site Heather the driveway is going to be a stone driveway and the parking area would also be a stone parking is that correct yeah they're calling out a stone blend okay like I said I don't know the specific materials that they're gonna use what are they what do they want to do with the rest of the area which is just dirt they're not they're not proposing anything else I know in my staff report I did make a recommendation that they do some additional planting so they have those are varieties planted along Pulaski Street since this site does a but strict residential uses especially by the parking area I would like to see some additional evergreen plantings just to create some additional so I would like to see so I would like to see so I would like to see so I would like to head head head between right like we talked about can we also ask them maybe just put any type of cover crop on that dirt area uh grass seed or something because it just yeah i mean once it's kind of unsightly keep in mind the construction was ongoing um you know again they're coming here to legalize what they started without the benefit of site plan approval so i'd imagine once everything is done they're not going to want to keep dirt there but i can certainly you know add that so i kept my one condition pretty general i put additional plantings to the satisfaction of the planning department so i think i could work in some sort of grass seed or something there just just to improve the remainder of the site um and then the other thing you know this is a mixed-use site so they're not served by the carter the town garbage carter they're required to have a private carter pick up their garbage there's no dumpster or trash enclosure little location on the site plan. So that's something I already spoke to the applicants representative about. They're going to have to show that amongst the other revisions that I'm asking for. And it'll have to be suitably screened. But you know you have a mix of residential and commercial here. So we don't want an open dumpster with residential waste in it. At the same time you know they might not need a large scale commercial dumpster on site. But we want it to look nice and orderly. So that's something that they're going to have to show on the site plan when they revise it. Does this meet the town's criteria for administrative site plan? Absolutely yeah. I mean based on what they did you know they did facade work to the one building. They're proposing a switch to retail in the existing building. Then they did some plantings and clearing. They're not doing any new building of any sort. It's all existing. Again it's an interesting parcel. But a lot of the parcels in Polishtown are like that. So I expect that if we get other projects in the future especially if we do some sort of corridor study we want to make sure that we have a good quality of the building. So I think that's something that we want to make sure that everybody's in conformance with town code. That their uses are consistent with what we're looking for in Village Center. So based upon the scope of work that they're proposing it's definitely if it's the criteria for administrative review. So no public hearing. They do have to go to the architectural review board. The anticipated meeting date is next Wednesday Matt? The 22nd? Yeah so the 22nd. So ARB will review the as-built elevations. So essentially what they did to the building on the western side. They took out the brick facade. I wish we could get them to put the Polish shutters or decorative shutters in there. That would look nice. Yeah well see what the ARB comes back with. Again it's not a significant deviation from what was there. The materials are different but they didn't add any square footage to the building. They didn't you know significantly change the story. So that's something that we're looking at. So I think that's a good point. Yeah. So the building is going to be a little bit more of a !

So it's there's 522, 524, 526. Those are the buildings that have frontage on Pulaski and then 314 Sweezy is in the back. I understand. But 522 shows multiple gas meters. Yeah so it has two apartments that were existing. Two apartments. Two apartments and then the commercial is the they're calling it an office. Like I said I think it was most recently used for a western union in the front. So it makes sense that they would have multiple meters. No no I understand that. But. So my question is really the other. See what that would be. That would be 526. 526 is listed as being six bedrooms correct? Two story frame house. Yeah six. How many apartments are in there? It's just a single family dwelling with six bedrooms. So there shouldn't be any separate dwelling units. What about the requirements for fire escape in that one? We've already had a problem at that address. I think that had to deal with three. Three. Three story dwellings. I did refer this to the fire marshal and he hasn't gotten me any official correspondence yet. But they're not proposing any changes there and I don't think they met the code changes that occurred. And Eric maybe you can help me out with this. Dealt with three third stories. Yeah they're pre-existing non conforming third stories that are under a rental permit. Okay. Yeah. And I mean they will need to get all of the applicable rental permits. Okay. Okay. [transcription gap] Okay. Okay. and then as far as lighting is concerned they're not proposing anything new um but i am recommending that or requiring that they submit some documentation just to show that the existing pictures on the buildings are all dark style compliant um they appear to be but i wasn't there late at night so i'd like to just make sure that they're not causing any light trespass to other properties um other than that i mean you know we're really waiting on the arb and then they have to make some changes pursuant to comments and my recommendations if the board has any other recommendations i told the representative for the application i would certainly let them know that they would they could just do one wholesale revision before signature yeah and i think we need to see excuse me i think we need to see more landscaping on that on that um eastern side because it if you look at the two photos 23 looks a lot better than 24 and what happened you know i mean you you were you were pretty nice about clearing it wasn't clearing they they wiped out it all pretty much i looked at some of the the photos that they had in the real estate listing this was after the fire had occurred the property was up for sale a lot of it was overgrown brush but again you know good landscaping having trees along the eastern and northern property boundaries particularly evergreens i think would definitely clean it up a little bit and also allow for some buffering between this and the residential uses because as you all know this is how the property is now but it's village center so if someone wants to come in with a different use you know potentially another commercial use you you want to make sure that you have those established buffers between the residential properties okay so i have a resolution on to approve with sort of a laundry list of conditions that they'll need to satisfy prior to signature and uh other than that we'll see what the arb says okay very good um discussion item number three waves llc medical offices site plan with greg

thank you so this is just a quick follow-up discussion on the seven waves llc medical office site plan which is the last vacant parcel in the warsaw park commerce drive subdivision on the north side of 58. um i did have a conversation with richard israel the project sponsor uh in my staff report i initially proposed the sidewalks and we did have some discussion regarding sidewalks after discussing with mr israel i looked at the existing subdivision which currently has no sidewalks throughout the entire subdivision with the exception of the harley davidson justin can we just zoom out a little bit

so the entire subdivision the commerce drive medical office park was all built out there's no sidewalks anywhere in that subdivision again with the exception of the harley davidson dealer across the street um all of these street trees that were installed and planted in that subdivision are actually right within the right of way where a sidewalk would go so the realities of installing sidewalks is something that's not necessarily realistic at this point while it is a good planning tool creating sidewalks we don't know how to do that but we do know how to do that and we'll see how we can do that in the next few weeks. um [transcription gap] um um um um um um um so so so so There's no sidewalks or any connection to facilitate it anywhere. This would be like the post office. It's just there. Everything else on either side is nothing. And you see them all the time. The sidewalks to nowhere. It creates a maintenance issue where in the event of a snowstorm they've got to go out and shovel that walkway, which really would serve no purpose. I didn't want to beat the dead horse with the bush, so to speak. So I'm willing to sort of yield on the sidewalk. However, where I do feel is very, our last sort of chance to facilitate any formal future cross access. I do recommend, and the preliminary approval resolution as before you for this afternoon requires to show the location of a future cross access. It could be facilitated here. Now, I do understand that the Warners Plaza to the west that location is sort of behind the building. It wouldn't really be known. Again, we would just be requiring a future cross access. We can't compel that neighboring property owner to come in and push through until such time that they come in for any type of site plan application. That being said, this is kind of the last crack that we have to get any type of cross access. So it's better than nothing. It would have obviously been more appropriate at probably the Panera as it's located. I think it's a little bit more along 58. People are more aware of it. I did have the conversation with Mr. Israel. He will look to facilitate that cross access at a later date if it's possible through the Panera property. Which again, that way people shopping in Warners Plaza, if they're looking to travel east on 58 they can in theory go from Warners through the Panera. Does he own the Panera? Yes, he does. So again, that property is not under site plan review. There's no method to compel them within the resolution. That being said, Mr. Israel has always been a man of his word in at least my dealings. So I'll take his word for it. And I did also, there were some recommendations the southbound travel lanes coming off of Commerce Drive onto 58 previously there were no stripings or no delineations. They worked with the county. The county came in and did the measurements. They did restripe that intersection coming off of Commerce Drive onto 58 so now there are defined lanes of travel rather than just sort of a free for all and like who's turning left, who's turning right. So it just provides a little bit more order there. So do have the preliminary approval resolution on. You know, they've got to get the standard stuff. They need the storm water pollution prevention plan. They'll need to come in to show the future cross access. Beyond that, once that stuff's done, we can move on to a final. So is that conversation that you have with Mr. Israel, is that reflected in your resolution? So again, this is a discussion that we're having with Mr. Israel. The conversation regarding Panera, it's not really, there's no mechanism because this is not in any way on the site plan review. So it was really a gentleman's conversation. Like I said, I'll take his word for it. He's always done right by us. So I will, again, I do have the language in there about the future cross access on this piece just because it is the last shot that we have. It's better than nothing if nothing ever comes out of it. We have the ability to do it. At least we have something. Greg, I agree with you. We talked about it. It's actually a better spot for the cross access. If it's taken in good faith and you trust Mr. Israel, I'm fine with that. I think it's a better place for it. So I think it's the way to go. All right. Everybody good? Good. Okay. Moving right along. Straight air, Greg. We need you up here again. Yep. Number four, Overlook Homes, major subdivision.

Okay. As most of the board will remember, we do have a. This was the major subdivision of Overlook Homes, which is located on Overlook Drive and Akribog. The board approved the final flat for the major subdivision back in August of 2021. Since then, the applicants got health department approval. The map has been filed. They've been doing the work. There was the requirement roadway improvements within that subdivision Vinnie Gordiello did initially prepare that performance bond in the amount of two hundred and eighty three thousand dollars which was posted to the which was accepted by the town board back in the 20 to early 2024 the applicant has undergone significant construction on that roadway Vinnie did a follow-up inspection to gauge the status of that he did prepare a revised performance security estimate dated January 2nd it identified the items completed to date as well as the outstanding items and indicated that that performance bond should be reduced to two hundred and fourteen thousand dollars from the original two hundred and eighty three thousand so we have a resolution to recommend the reduction of that performance bond that resolution gets transmitted to the town board and then the town board would authorize a resolution authorizing a refund of a portion of that performance bond so they're well on their way that roadway I know I would gotten a lot of calls from residents down there they were very very interested in when the construction was going to start so he's well on his way okay all right Greg we have a item number five Calvin industrial park LLC for minor subdivision and we're going to go ahead and get this done so we're going to go ahead and get this done Justin can we zoom out a bit so we can get this whole thank you alright so this is a follow-up on a minor industrial subdivision and we're going to go ahead and get this done so this is a middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle Back then, it was Zone Industrial A. Since the adoption of that preliminary approval resolution, the town board recently, as a follow-up to the comprehensive plan update, they did rezone this area to Calverton Industrial. It did not change the lot sizes or the minimum lot size requirements. Although the zoning district did change, the minimum lot size stayed the same, so all of the lots within this subdivision still meet the minimum dimensional requirements for the new Calverton Industrial Zone. There were some minor changes to the sizes of the lots within the subdivision. For example, the original map had lot dimensions. The original map showed that this headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland headland head 2.24 acres now shown as 13.42 acres. Again, all the lots still comply with the minimum dimensional requirements for the Calverton Industrial Subdivision, the Calverton Industrial Zoning District, and the shifting around of sizes within the subdivision did not change the overall allowable build-out within the subdivision. You know, it just means that you could build a little bit more on lot two, but you're getting a little bit less on lot three. So the overall total build-out that the board reviewed and did their analysis on, the total build-out didn't change. It just sort of shifts around a little bit of the development within the subdivision. So the initial analysis is consistent with the negative declaration that we issued. The proposed access to the subdivision is going to be along the eastern property boundary. That is going to be a private road. It is not going to be dedicated to the town. It will be developed to the industrial world. It will be based on road standards. It will need to be kept clear. Mr. Cuddy did provide some draft language regarding that easement and access. I did have, there were some conversations back and forth with the town attorney's office. They made some recommendations just to that language. But that will serve as the access to the rear end of the subdivision. It's presumed that that road would get built out as we get an application. We did have the condition, even though these lots will now no longer front directly on 25, any of these developments on these, you know, either lots 2, 3, or 4 will be referred to the DOT for their review and comment because they are exiting obviously onto Middle Country Road. That's it. I mean they got help. Is it going to be storage again? What's that? Is it going to be another storage building? I don't know if this, I'm not aware of any particular. That's what I understand. I mean there are a pretty wide range of permitted uses in the Calverton Industrial Zoning District. We now have a use table. So really any conforming use could come in for a development application. I did speak with a couple of the members regarding future cross-access. Within our subdivision code, there's no requirement for future cross-access when we do a subdivision plat. Future cross-access is something that we could facilitate when any of these lots come in for future development. The thought being that, you know, you've got, if there was a way to facilitate a cross-access, you could put a traffic out to Edwards Avenue rather than put additional traffic out to Middle Country Road that would make a left onto Edwards even though that intersection is going to be improved in the near future. It would just be a nice relief valve where if a truck or a car exiting the site has the ability to get out to Edwards. So that's something that we can address when they actually come in for site plan where it is a requirement. Beyond that, they got the Health Department approval. They satisfied all the conditions of that preliminary plat. So we have a resolution on to authorize the approval of the final plat. We have, did we get engineering review? We would have gotten engineering review back when we did this in 2019. This would have been referred to Vinnie Gordiello at that point and I mean we wouldn't have wouldn't have approved it without any type of engineering review.

We would have gotten head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head engineering plans Engineering comments great just the The change in lot sizes Everything's been recorded for the tax map to Suffolk County Well, so upon the signature of the final plat the map will get filed with Suffolk County. Oh, okay. Okay Okay. Yeah, this is where we've got a resolution on to approve the final plat and we have learned just through prior subdivisions in terms of the Sequencing of events that needs to happen when easements are filed on subdivisions basically, the subdivision map has to get filed and then the owner can file the covenants on that property because essentially the county clerk won't let you file a You know declaration or a covenant on a parcel that doesn't exist yet so there is language in there and it's going to be standard language going forward that We're going to authorize signature of the map upon the filing Signature of the map it'll be filed with the county clerk There's language in here that says will not accept any type of site plan development Applications until that language regarding the easement and the covenants is recorded Just to have a little safeguard that we don't you know, nothing really gets away from us Okay. So this this is the final subdivision. These lots will not be subdivided. Oh again. Is that accurate? I mean, they could be subdivided with you know with a further review from the Planning Board again chain, you know if lot two, which right? Now is seven point three acres if they wanted to come in and split that into two They you'd get into three and a half acre Lots which care again wouldn't if anything it would probably Decrease the amount of allowable because then you're dealing with additional setbacks So really any further subdivision is just if they have a smaller tenant they want to you know Chop up the lots a little more they would need to come into the Planning Board for another sub But if they did that Greg you go from a minor to a major subdivision after four or after five If they can Without a major subdivision is five or more. So would they have to improve the easement? also, just thinking this So I mean, I don't want I don't want to kind of go back into history. But the way this was done Again, the road itself is gonna have to be a sufficient with to facilitate the industrial traffic, but up in the northeast corner of this property is There's a little substation a little electrical switch which I'm assuming is the Feed from the solar farm how it ties into the grid so the location of that just from the initial planning standpoint sort of precluded us from designing a Fully compliant industrial roadway that would be suitable for dedication to the town Which is why we went through the 55 foot wide access easements I Guess good All right, thanks Greg We're gonna move on to Discussion item number six Kathy Lane LLC made subdivision only known as Northwalk developers

At the end of your presentation, would you be willing to say it on the record about the memorial? Thank you

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All right, so wrapping up another long-standing application that we've got This is the final plat for a major sub major residential subdivision known as Kathy Lane LLC, which was formerly Norfolk developers LLC This is an approximately 13 acre piece of property which is located east of rabbit run at the end of the existing dead end of Kathy Lane This goes back to the planning board granted the preliminary plat approval back in November of 2021 for a 10 lot major residential subdivision The original approved yield on this subdivision map was 11 lots the applicant at that time voluntarily reduced the density to Comply with the Long Island Workforce Housing Act. So these will be all market rate So the preliminary plat included like there was requirements for there's a several temporary grading and drainage easements within the right-of-way There's a 35 foot There's an existing drainage swale on the east end of the property We require language for that drainage swale There's also a common driveway easement, which is going to serve lot numbers three and four So the applicant has prepared those they've been reviewed by the town attorney's office the town attorney's office has signed off on them The applicant did receive approval from the Health Department back in June They received approval for their stormwater pollution prevention plan in August of 2023 so we have a resolution on to approve the final plat subject to the obviously the filing of the covenants a Performance bond for the roadway improvements, which will be prepared by the board's consulting engineer the payment of the fee for the chapter 229 excavation permit which shows an excavation of approximately 799 cubic yards of soil And there's also park and rec fees in the amount of $5,000 per lot within the subdivision and again Sequencing in terms of filing those covenants the map will get filed with the county clerk and then they can file those easements on that On the map again. I do have language in here that just says no building permit shall issue until those covenants are recorded on the property again, just as a safeguard so This gets another another application that's been around for a little while gets it over the finish line Allows for the recording and signature of the map Has okay, we have a resolution on for a little bit later. Thank you We're gonna go into public comments now Miss Judge if you would come up and tell she you're complete Tell us what's going on with your project

Kimberly Judge 737 améric Ave this is not in reference to a project that I'm doing before the Planning Board. It's just to advise the Board that the Suffolk County Historical Society here in Riverhead, known as the museum, they're doing a Grumman exhibit. They've had two curators who are going to be working on the project and they're soliciting artifacts from any former employees, family members. I know there were a lot of engineers, a lot of people in Riverhead that worked there. Riverhead Roto used to do the barbecue every year. They found quite a few pictures and artifacts and so forth that the museum will be displaying. They will do a exhibit and the person lending or loaning the artifacts would have to agree to exhibit them for one year. And if there's anybody that's interested, please contact me. I would be very happy to help out and put you in touch with Victoria Berger, who is the Executive Director over at the Historical Society. And she looks forward to exhibiting this. John Aucott, Jr.: Yeah, that's great. I'm looking forward to it. When is it going to start? Do you know? Victoria Berger, Jr.: They don't know yet because we're still putting it in. But I don't know if the Board recalls Port Jefferson Library did a Grumman exhibit quite a few years ago. So the same two individuals who curated that project for Port Jefferson, they're doing it for the Historical Society here in Riverhead. John Aucott, Jr.: Okay. Keep us informed. Thank you very much. And I'm going to ask everybody, engineers, employees, people who worked in personnel, thank you. John Aucott, Jr.: Thank you. John Aucott, Jr.: Public comments? Anybody else? Okay. Gentlemen, let's move into resolutions. John Aucott, Jr.: I'll move Resolution 2025-002, Prisco, Calvert and Acres, the resolution granting minor approval for the subdivision. So moved. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Hogan? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Nannero? Aye. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Baer? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: And I vote aye. The motion carries. John Aucott, Jr.: I'll move Resolution 2025-003, grants administrative approval to Leo K. Group. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Hogan? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Nannero? Aye. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Baer? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: And I vote aye. The motion carries. John Aucott, Jr.: I move Resolution Number 2025-004, Overlook Homes Major Subdivision, Performance Security Reduction Number 1, Resolution Recommending Performance Security Reduction Subdivision, approved by the Planning Board by resolution. John Aucott, Jr.: Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Hogan? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Nannero? Aye. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Baer? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: And I vote aye. The motion carries. John Aucott, Jr.: Resolution 2025-005, Calverton Industrial Park LLC, Resolution granting approval for a final plant for a four-lot minor subdivision. John Aucott, Jr.: Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Hogan? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: And I vote aye. The motion carries. John Aucott, Jr.: I move Resolution 2025-006 for 27 Waves LLC, granting preliminary approval for the site plan application. So moved. John Aucott, Jr.: Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Hogan? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Nannero? Aye. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Baer? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: And I vote aye. The motion carries. John Aucott, Jr.: I move Resolution number 20-025, Resolution number 7, grants approval for the final plant for a 10-lot subdivision for Cathy Lowe. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Hogan? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Nannero? Aye. John Aucott, Jr.: Mr. Baer? Yes. John Aucott, Jr.: And I vote aye. The motion carries. Okay. That's the end of resolutions. We open up to public comments for anybody. Okay. No secret actions today, Greg? All right. Somebody want to move some minutes? Greg Nassar, Director of the Center for Public Relations and the Department of Transportation, November 21, 2024 I'll move the minutes of November 21, 2024. So moved. John Aucott, Jr.: Second. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded. All in favor? Aye. John Aucott, Jr.: All opposed? Motion carries. I'll move resolution. I'll move Planning Board Minutes of December 5, 2024. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Before we get going on that. I'm sorry? Were we on December 19th? We're doing December 5th. John Aucott, Jr.: Oh, okay. All right. Never mind. Okay. December 5th. Moved and seconded. All in favor? Aye. John Aucott, Jr.: All opposed? Now December 5th. All in favor? Aye. John Aucott, Jr.: All opposed? All in favor? Aye. John Aucott, Jr.: All opposed? All in favor? All opposed? Now December 19th. John Aucott, Jr.: Now December 19th. Now December 19th. So December 19th, there is a… John Aucott, Jr.: I'll move resolution number. Hold on one second, John. John Aucott, Jr.: Hold on one second, John. John Aucott, Jr.: What's that? Hold on one second. John Aucott, Jr.: So we just have to correct the minutes because the Board voted on one resolution twice. Yeah, nine to six. John Aucott, Jr.: There was one that should have come off the table, and it did come off the table, but then it wasn't voted on. So we're just going to make a motion to correct the minutes to reflect that resolution. John Aucott, Jr.: Okay. John Aucott, Jr.: So the motion 54 was moved off the table. It was moved and seconded, and then it was voted with approval instead of voting on 96 twice. Okay. Very good. Thank you for the clarification. Somebody want to move that? John Aucott, Jr.: I'll move December 19th minutes as amended. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Moved and seconded. All in favor? Aye. John Aucott, Jr.: Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. Staff, any other business? Aye. John Aucott, Jr.: All in favor? All in favor? Aye. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Aye. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Aye. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Aye. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Aye. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Aye. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Aye. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Aye. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Aye. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Aye. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Aye. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Aye. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Aye. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Aye. Second. John Aucott, Jr.: Aye. Second. 6 p.m. Anybody want to close the meeting? Motion to close. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. All opposed? You can stay here if you're opposed. Thank you, everybody. Have a great day.

Thank you.