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Thank you. Thank you. Good afternoon, everybody. This is an advertised time and place for the Thursday, February 20, 2025, Planning Board meeting. Please join the board in standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Thank you very much. Thank you very much. We have no public hearings. So we're going to get right into discussion items. And the number one discussion item is 4129 Middle Country Road, Bowler Market Company, Canopy and Site Improvement. Thank you.

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What's our overall from the general country? 10. Good. I think you just introduced yourselves for the record. Sure. Nicholas Bishami, PE, High Point Engineering, an office located at 1860 Wallopen Road, Suite 600, Belville, New York. David Altman, Brown Altman, DeLeo, 538 Barraud Hollow Road, Suite 301W, Melville, New York. Turn it over. Welcome, gentlemen. Good to see everybody. I think that it warmed up a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Greg, you want to? Yeah. So this is an administrative site for an application proposing to install canopies over in the area. All right. So this is an administrative site for an application proposing to install canopies over in the area. All right. [transcription gap] All right. [transcription gap] acre site approved with a two-story convenience store with fueling stations and that was issued a letter of February of 1985 the properties are located within the Calvert in industrial zoning use district the existing conditions access to the site is taken from an unrestricted when you would call it haircut space we use an open road frontage completely uncontrolled a portion of the site's parking area is located on lot number seven all conditions on their all conditions on the residential parcel are proposed to remain and not posting any type of improvements on their surrounding areas rural commercial and residential the proposed action is a type 2 action pursuant to secret as it involves construction of non-residential structures less than 4,000 square feet so I do have a resolution on for the board to classify it as a type 2 so that the zoning Board of Appeals can act on their application I did note that while the applicant was preparing this application we are in the midst of amending our zoning codes so the application does list the old industrial sea zoning districts the dimensional regulations will need to be amended but the application right now is will need a variance from the front yard setback they are proposing the canopies to a front yard 28.9 feet where the minimum required is a hundred feet it is worth noting that the old industrial sea zoning setback was 30 feet so the Calvert in industrial just increased that front yard setback a bit I did provide a denial letter to the applicant that did denote the Calvert in industrial setbacks anticipating just a revised sheet showing the corrected dimensional regulations now it's a little interesting these two properties are both owned by the same entity and so she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear now it's all there's informal cross-access across both parcels I do just recommend that as we get towards approvals formal cross-access be filed on the property in the event that either lot is sold are they in the same name to what they are so because normally they get joined automatically if they're same property owners there is a section of code that they're they have not been murdered probably because I believe lot number eight was conforming to the to the old industrial c zoning district in terms of area size so maybe that has something to do with not merged in terms of site lighting all the existing site lighting will be replaced they have some existing site lighting over the fueling stations and some existing non-compliant building mounted lighting they are proposing to replace all light fixtures on the site building mounted fixtures will be at heights of 10 feet and 16 feet and the parking lot lighting on the east side will be replaced with gooseneck fixtures at a height of 16 feet and they're proposing LED canopy lighting underneath the canopies all fixtures are have a color temperature of 3,000 degrees Kelvin and our dark sky compliant in terms of curbing sidewalks and landscaping the site plan proposes to create three 30-foot wide formalized curb cuts on middle country roads you can see the installation of a five-foot sidewalk along the entire frontage of the property as well as the installation of landscaping beds in between the sidewalk and the existing parking area so landscaping will be installed there I do just recommend the incorporation of some street trees if possible into that buffer area as well as additional ink burrows and other !

the project was reviewed by the architectural review board at its meeting on January 22nd of this year and they approved it. Fire Marshal had some comments regarding the canopies and fixed extinguishing systems. Town engineer had no comments on the site plan. That's pretty much it. Pretty straightforward application. Spruce up an existing fueling station. Provide formal formal access points. Landscaping. Just give it a little pep. Yeah. It's probably one of the last stations that doesn't have a cover. So we're going to have to wait. We're going to have to wait for the next station to come up and cover. Citizens shouldn't have to go out in the rain, snow, sun and pump fuel. So I think it's a great idea. I like the BOLA experience as far as business wise. They always appear to do everything top notch and classy. I would appreciate that. Bringing the building into conformance with the dark skies thing is going to help out too. I just think it's a win-win for everybody. I appreciate the comments. I mean, Mr. Bregman was very kind. I appreciate it. I think everyone was good enough to share with us the planning memo. Thank you very much. Very helpful. Very informative. I think the other point to note right now is there is no formal site access. It's a free-for-all generally. But he used to say- Milligan's Truck Stop. Exactly. So with the three curb cuts right now, it will be a much safer site for purposes of ingress and egress. In fact, you'll have some greenery up front on Middle Country Road where none exists today. You're going to have to get used to it. Yeah. 100%. You know, so I'll just offer this to the board relative to the street trees. Obviously, you know, we deal with this on multiple stations for BOLO throughout the metropolitan area. I would just ask the board and planning to be cognizant of the fact that we don't want street trees placed in such a position or species of tree that are such that they obstruct pricing or signage. That's important that motorists have that ability to still see brand and price signs from the street. So, you know, we're happy to incorporate when and where feasible, but not to the detriment of motorist identification or safety. As to the cross-access easement, I think we can certainly depict one on the plan, but I can't grant an easement to myself. So, you know, we can certainly make it a condition of any approval. Owners change over time. Exactly. So a condition of approval, if there's a sale of one lot or the other, then obviously it will be noted. Okay. Those would just be my comments and, of course, the board's comments. I don't know if my colleagues agree or not, but can we offer support to the zoning board of appeals on the application? We could. If that's good with you, men. I just have a question. You're going to do the canopy over the gas stations. How about over the diesel pumps? Yes. So there will be a 24 by 24 foot wide. Over the diesel? Yep. Also. Yeah. Right here. That sort of pinkish outline. That's the diesel pump right? Okay. All right. So main pumps and then the separate diesel. Both will have canopies. How about on the air pump in that area? Is there any type of canopy or pergola or something? No, nothing over the air pumps. Nope. Yeah. You're not going to do anything with the actual business? The building itself? Yeah. Other than the lighting as proposed to bring it to oxidized compliant? No. So there are no proposed changes to the building itself? Some changes may be required along the sidewalk in front just because of where we relocated the handicap area. So we'll just have to add an ADA accessible ramp. But in terms of inside of the building, no business changes, no nothing like that. Okay. I just have a question about the canopies. Are they going to be one of those peaked roof type ones that you see or is it just going to be a flat or some kind of parapet around it? Right now it's opposed as far. Okay. To propose this flat, I would just ask, you know, bear in mind the length of the canopy itself, right? So at almost 90 feet, particularly the one over the main islands. If you do a peaked roof or a reverse gable on that, that's a pretty significant architectural feature. Yes. It adds a lot of weight to it. It adds a lot of weight to the canopy. It changes the structural design to it and often a pretty significant expense. Plus it increases the mass of the canopy, right? So bearing in mind it's a canopy, it's a utilitarian structure, do we want to make it any more visible in what's arguably barely a rural area? Okay. Anybody else? No. Anything else, gentlemen? No, sir. All right. We wish you good luck. Thank you. Thank you very much. Appreciate your time. Sure. Thanks very much, Greg. Okay. Moving on to discussion item number two, Seacrest Estates. Discussion of a performance bond reduction. Greg? So this is just an update on the Seacrest Estates major subdivision previously known as the Bills at Roanoke. It's located on the south side of the state. It's located on the south side of Soundshore Road, Newport. The board approved the final plat in October of 2023. The town board accepted a letter of credit as a performance bond, a resolution of January 17th, 2024. So they've been under construction. Vinnie Gordiello, the planning board's consulting engineer, went out and did an inspection. He provided a revised security, revised performance security estimate as well as an inspection memo, both dated January 17th, 2025. He recommended the performance bond be reduced to $400,000. Provided the board with both the memo and the updated performance bond estimate. So this is a resolution recommending the reduction in the performance bond. That will be transmitted to the town board. And then the town board will adopt the resolution authorizing that reduction. I read Vinnie's report. Yeah. No questions. Good. Everybody's good? Yeah. Yep. Thanks, Greg. At this time, call for public comments on any issue. Not seeing any hands. Let's move on to resolutions, gentlemen. Can I ask a question first? Yes. Do we have to table this resolution? No. So rather than table it and kind of muddy it, I just removed it entirely and renumbered it. Oh. So the... The agenda reflects the... So this is... So now it's 13. Yeah. So bargain molding is off the table. Right. Okay. Good. All right. Okay. I'll move resolution number 2025014 to classify site plan application in Bolo Market. 13. No. 13. It's 13. I'm sorry. Yes. Okay. All right. Do we have a second? I second. Moving to second, Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote yes. The motion carries. Resolution 2025-014, Sequest Estates Bond Reduction. Moved it? Moved. Second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote yes. The motion carries. I move resolution number 2025-015, Pastrano, Chapter 219, resolution granting Chapter 19, Coastal Erosion Hazardous Permit. Second. Moved. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote yes. The motion carries. I move resolution number 2025-016, Transmits a Letter of Recommendation to the Riverhead Town Board Regarding Dark Skies Lighting. Second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Baer? Yes. Second. Moved and seconded. Second. Moved by head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head no secret actions tonight can we move the minutes of the meeting what minutes January 16th I never got them okay I'll move the minutes of January 16th 2025 so move second moved in second mr. Zelnicki yes mr. Hogan yes mr. bear Epstein and I vote yes to motion carries and then we got it other business staff correspondence we're all good great our next meeting date is going to be Thursday March 6th at 6 p.m. we hope you all can make it all the other business we have a second second moved in seconded motion to close all in favor aye all opposed motion carries have a great weekend everybody thank you staff good job as usual