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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Justin. Good afternoon, everybody. It's Thursday, April. It's April 17th at 3 o'clock, and that's the advertised time and place for the planning board meeting. Please join the board in standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Good afternoon, everybody. Good afternoon, everybody. We do have one public hearing today. We have one public hearing today. Points East, LLC, minor subdivision. Greg, can you bring us up to speed, please? Yes, sir. Good afternoon, Chairman, members of the planning board. For the record, Greg Bergman, senior planner with the Riverhead Planning Department. And I do want to acknowledge I received for this public hearing the affidavit of posting and mailing, the required mailing notices, and the photographs showing the proof of posting. What we have is a public hearing for a four-lot minor subdivision of land. The subject property is located at 455. Middle Road, Riverhead, New York. More particularly described as Suffolk County Tax Map number 600-84-1-6. Subject property is 2.05 acres in size. It's located on the south side of Middle Road. It is presently improved with an existing single-family residence. The proposed subdivision seeks to create a four-lot minor subdivision utilizing transfer of development rights through the town of Riverhead, which is authorized by the town code. The proposed action is a type 2 action pursuant to SECRA, which is a section of the
! I have spoken with the applicant. He is working on preparing a grading and drainage plan for that proposed driveway. We did get comments back from the Riverhead Fire Marshal. There are certain requirements that need to be met in terms of the width of the driveway, construction of the driveway, ability to sustain weight of an emergency vehicle in the event of a fire. The applicant is currently working with the Riverhead Water District. There is an easement that runs to the north and south through the property along the western property boundary. And we have spoken with the applicant. We have clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear NEED TO BE COMPLETED AND REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING BOARD AND THERE WILL NEED TO BE RESTRICTIONS AND COVENANTS THAT WOULD BE FILED ON THIS PROPERTY TO RECORD THOSE RECEIVING OF THOSE TDRS. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TDRS THERE ARE? TWO TDRS. IT'S ESSENTIALLY ONE TDR PER ADDITIONAL LOT. THEY GO DOWN TO THE CODE ALLOWS YOU TO GO DOWN TO 20,000 SQUARE FEET EVEN THOUGH IT'S WITHIN THE 40,000 SQUARE FEET ZONE. YOU'RE ESSENTIALLY DOUBLING THE DENSITY WITH THE USE OF TDRS. BEYOND THAT, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. THE APPEALGON IS HERE IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM. THANK YOU, GREG. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK? I WILL. I DO. I JUST REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE HERE BEFORE THE LAST TIME IT CAME IN, WE WERE WORRYING ABOUT THE WATER MAIN. YEAH. SO THE WATER MAIN. IT'S ACTIVE? SO THE WATER MAIN IS ACTIVE. IT IS PART OF THE DISTRIBUTION NETWORK FOR THE RIVERHEAD WATER DISTRICT. AGAIN, THEY'RE WORKING ON. THEY NEED TO DETERMINE THE CONDITION OF THE PIPE, DETERMINE IF IT'S SUITABLE TO ACTUALLY TAP OFF OF. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THE APPEALGON IS WORKING ON WITH THE WATER DISTRICT. WE OBVIOUSLY WOULD NOT GRANT ANY APPROVALS BEFORE WE GET FORMAL COMMENTS FROM THE RIVERHEAD WATER DISTRICT. BUT THEY ARE WORKING ON IDENTIFYING THAT ISSUE. IS THERE ALSO A MAIN IN FRONT OF THE PROPERTY? YES. I BELIEVE THERE IS A 12-INCH MAIN IN MIDDLE ROAD. OKAY. I BELIEVE IT'S A DISTRIBUTION LINE. I THINK IT'S. IT'S NOT A DEAD END. THAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS WORKING ON. I CAN HANDLE A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. OKAY. SO I WENT DOWN TO THE. EXCUSE ME, SIR. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO YOU HAVE TO GIVE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. SHAW MORRISON, 38 MILL POND LANE, EAST MERCHES, NEW YORK. I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. SO I HAD A MEETING AT RIVERHEAD WATER AUTHORITY. I MET WITH WHO WAS IN CHARGE THERE. AND I THINK THEY BROUGHT IN THE PRE-EXISTING PERSON WHO WAS IN CHARGE. IS IT CORWIN? I DON'T REMEMBER HIS NAME. SO THEY BROUGHT HIM IN BECAUSE HE UNDERSTOOD THE PREVIOUS AND THE OLD LINES OF PIPES THAT GO THROUGH THE TOWN. SO THAT IS, I THINK, AN 18-INCH MAIN THAT'S SURROUNDED BY A 24-INCH. AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO EXPAND SOME OF THE WAY THE TOWN WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED. WHEN I SPOKE WITH HIM, HE'S LIKE, YOU CAN LIKELY TAP A FIRE HYDRATE OFF IF NEEDED. YOU CAN ALSO TAP WATER LINES IF NEEDED. HE'S LIKE, AND IF WE DECIDED NOT THAT, THERE'S A WATER MAIN ON MIDDLE ROAD AND WE CAN BRING WATER LINES UP FROM THAT WAY. BUT HE WAS ABLE TO FIND THAT INFORMATION AND THERE'S WATER FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES. THAT WATER LINE IS ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY. WE ARE ALLOWED TO PUT A DRIVEWAY OVER THE TOP OF IT. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BLOCK IT. WE JUST HAVE TO ALLOW THEM USAGE OF THE DRIVEWAY IF THEY EVER HAVE TO SERVICE. THE HOUSE THAT'S THERE, DO YOU PLAN TO TAKE IT DOWN OR? SO WE HAD A MEETING WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND WE'RE STILL NOT SURE WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. SO IT'S POSSIBLE. WE MIGHT REHAB IT AND THERE'S AN OPEN PERMIT TO DO SO. THE HOUSE IS IN PRETTY POOR SHAPE. HOWEVER, ACROSS THE STREET IS AN IDENTICAL HOME THAT PREEXISTS AND LOOKS REALLY NICE AND WE WOULD PROBABLY TRY TO REUSE IT AS MUCH OF THAT EXISTING STRUCTURE TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE IT WAS ORIGINAL USAGE. AND THEN BEHIND THERE, THREE LOTS WOULD BE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT THE PREVIOUS BUILDER TO THE WEST DID. THERE'S A SIMILAR FLAG LOT WITH THREE LOTS UP. WE WOULD PROBABLY BE PROPOSING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT. NEW SPEAKER THANK YOU. NEW SPEAKER DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING ELSE? NEW SPEAKER NOT AT ALL. NEW SPEAKER OKAY. NEW SPEAKER YEAH. THANK YOU. NEW SPEAKER ANY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD CARE TO COMMENT? NEW SPEAKER NO. NEW SPEAKER THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO ZOOM FOLKS HAVE THE RIGHT TO TRY THEM IN IF THEY LIKE. NEW SPEAKER WE HAVE NO ONE ON ZOOM. NEW SPEAKER NO ONE ON ZOOM. NEW SPEAKER BOARD MEMBERS? ANY OTHER? NEW SPEAKER MOVE WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. NEW SPEAKER SECOND. NEW SPEAKER MOVED AND SECOND. MR. ZELNICKI? NEW SPEAKER YES. NEW SPEAKER MR. HOGAN? NEW SPEAKER YES. NEW SPEAKER MR. DINERO? NEW SPEAKER AYE. NEW SPEAKER MR. BEAR? NEW SPEAKER YES. NEW SPEAKER AND I VOTE AYE. MOTION CARRIES TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. GOOD LUCK. NEW SPEAKER THANK YOU. NEW SPEAKER WE HAVE FOUR DISCUSSION ITEMS. I WANT TO SEE WHO STANDS UP FOR THIS ONE. THE HENPECKED HUSBAND FARM STANDS. NEW SPEAKER UNFORTUNATELY THE OWNER COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY. NEW SPEAKER TOO EMBARRASSED TO SHOW? NEW SPEAKER NO THE PROPERTY OWNER'S NAME IS STERLING SHURGEN. I THINK IT'S UNDER NORTHWOOD REAL ESTATE HOLDINGS BUT IT'S CALLED HENPECKED HUSBAND FARM FOR ANYONE WHO'S NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PROPERTY. SO WE RECEIVED A FARM STAND APPLICATION TO LEGALIZE A PARTIALLY CONSTRUCTED FARM STAND BUILDING AT 1254 NORTHVILLE TURNPIKE IN RIVERHEAD. SOUTHWOOD COUNTY TAX RATE NUMBER 665-5-10. THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS A 15.9 ACRE PARCEL LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF NORTHVILLE TURNPIKE. IT'S ABOUT 950 FEET NORTH FROM THE INTERSECTION OF NORTHVILLE AND DOCTOR'S PATH. THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS ENGAGED IN BONIFIED AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN SOLD TO THE TOWN OF RIVERHEAD ON THE BACK HALF OF THE PROPERTY. THE OWNER DID RETAIN A 2.59 ACRE AREA ALONG NORTHVILLE TURNPIKE. THAT'S WHERE THE FARM STAND IS LOCATED. AND UNFORTUNATELY BECAUSE THE FARM STAND WAS CONSTRUCTED WITHOUT PERMITS HE IS A LITTLE TOO CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE. SO NOT WITHIN THE COUNTY RIGHT OF WAY BUT HE'S 13.3 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. AND OUR CODE DOESN'T DEFINE A SETBACK FOR A FARM STAND. SO WE GO BY THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE SETBACKS WHICH WOULD BE 60 FEET IN APZ ZONING. SO HE DOES NEED RELIEF FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN MADE AND HE'S SET TO BE HEARD NEXT WEEK AT THE BOARD'S MEETING. BUT I WANTED TO BRING THIS TO THE PLANNING BOARD JUST TO SEE IF ANYONE HAD ANY QUESTIONS. UM. UM. UM. SO THE PURPOSE OF THE FARM STAND IS GOING TO BE UNATTENDED. THEY DO WANT TO SELL, THEY GROW NUMEROUS KINDS OF FLOWERS ON THE PROPERTY. THEY WERE DOING WHOLESALE. THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO MORE OF A RETAIL WHICH AGAIN IS PERMITTED. THEY HAVE A BONIFIED ARTICULTURAL OPERATION THERE. THEY'LL BE USING WELL WATER TO PROVIDE WATER FOR THE FLOWERS THAT ARE GOING TO BE, THEY'LL DO BOQUETS AND I GUESS CUT FLOWERS THERE. THERE WILL BE ELECTRIC FOR THE FARM STAND BUILDING. SO OBVIOUSLY IF THEY RECEIVE THE APPROPRIATE RELIEF FROM THE ZONING BOARD THEY'LL COME BACK FOR FARM STAND APPROVAL AND THEN FOLLOW UP WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WITH THE APPROPRIATE PERMITS. I REFERRED IT OVER TO OUR TOWN ENGINEER JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE INSTALLING A DRY WELL IN ORDER TO CONTAIN ANY SORT OF STORM WATER RUNOFF. THE TOWN ENGINEER REQUESTED THAT THE APPECTS PROVIDE A DETAIL AND PLAN VIEW OF THE PROPOSED DRY WELL WHICH HE DID. SO THERE'S AN UPDATED SURVEY SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE DRY WELL AND THE APPECENT ALSO PROVIDE A NARRATIVE LIKE HOW DEEP IT'S GOING TO BE AND HOW BIG AND DREW WAS SATISFIED WITH THAT. SO THEY STARTED CONSTRUCTION. DID THEY RECEIVE A STOP WORK ORDER? YES. CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUED A STOP WORK ORDER. HE MADE AN APPLICATION TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BUT HE HAS TO GO THROUGH THE PROPER PROCESS OF THE PLANNING BOARD TO GET THE FARM STAND APPROVAL. SO THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO INTRODUCE IT TO THE BOARD FIRST THEN GO TO ZONING BOARD AND IF HE IS GRANTED THE SETBACK RELIEF HE CAN COME BACK FOR APPROVAL AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO FINISH HIS FARM STAND BEFORE THE NEXT TIME. I NOTICED THERE WERE ONLY THREE PARKING SPOTS. AS DISCUSSED NUMEROUS TIMES, THERE IS NO PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR FARM STANDS IN OUR TOWN CODE. IF YOU WERE TO GO BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE AND GO ONE PER 300 WHICH I THINK IS OUR PARKING SCHEDULE, IT'S ANY USE NOT SPECIFICALLY DEFINED. HE HAS MORE THAN ENOUGH PARKING THERE. MOST FARM STANDS AS WE HAVE SEEN THERE IS A GRAVEL AREA. THE SIDE OF THE PARKING STAND IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT. STALLS AREN'T TYPICALLY DEMARCATED. THEY CAN ALSO USE THE GRASS AREA. IN THIS CASE, I WOULD WANT THEM TO AT LEAST SHOW AN ACCESSIBLE STALL, NOT JUST ONE. BECAUSE THIS IS UNATTENDED, I DON'T THINK THEY ARE GOING TO REQUIRE THAT MUCH PARKING. I REFERRED IT TO THE COUNTY, BUT THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY NEW CURB CUTS OR IMPROVEMENTS WITHIN THE COUNTY RIDEAWAY. SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO COME BACK WITH. HOW DO THEY TAKE ORDERS? IF IT'S UNMANNED AND PEOPLE JUST DRIVE IN, THERE HAS TO BE SOMEBODY THAT CAN COMMUNICATE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE FAMILIAR WITH ANDREW'S FARM STANDS. IT'S CALLED AN HONOR TRAILER WHERE THEY HAVE THINGS OUT DURING THE WINTER OR THE OFF-SEASON AND THEY HAVE A LITTLE MAILBOX THAT PEOPLE WILL PUT MONEY IN. IT'S PRETTY COMMON AMONG A LOT OF THE SMALLER FARM STANDS TOO. MAYBE THEY WOULD HAVE SOMEBODY THERE FOR MOTHER'S DAY, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY ARE GOING TO BE OPEN TO SORT OF HELP PEOPLE, EXPLAIN TO THEM WHAT THE FLOWERS ARE. BUT AGAIN, I DON'T IMAGINE IT BEING A HUGE PARKING DEMAND. SO WEATHER IS A BIG ISSUE. WHETHER IT'S ATTENDED OR UNATTENDED, I DON'T THINK, BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A LARGE SCALE OPERATION. WHAT ABOUT SIGNAGE? THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY SIGNAGE. OBVIOUSLY IF THEY WANTED TO DO A SIGN, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROPER PROCESS WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. THAT'S A COMPLETELY SEPARATE APPLICATION AND I IMAGINE IT WOULD BE REFERRED TO THE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD. I JUST WANTED TO GET A FEEL FOR IF YOU GUYS HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR REQUESTS. I THINK THEY SHOULD HAVE A BOARD OF STANDS. THEY SHOULD HAVE A PORTA SAND ON THE PROPERTY. OH, A PORTA POTTY? YES. OKAY, THAT'S SOMETHING. I THINK THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT MOST FARM STANDS DO THAT DON'T HAVE ON-SITE BATHROOM FACILITIES, BUT I'LL BRING THAT UP. THIS IS ALL STUFF THAT I WANT TO BRING BACK TO THE APPLICANT THAT WAY THEY CAN WORK ON IT IN THE INTERIM WHILE THEY'RE GOING TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO THE CBA? NEXT WEEK. HEATHER, REAL QUICK, BEFORE HE PUT THE FRAME STAND UP, THE FARM STAND, DID HE INQUIRE TO ANYONE ABOUT THE FOOTAGE AWAY FROM THE ROAD OR HE JUST? NO, NOT THAT. I MEAN, THEY HAD, I THINK THEY HAD LIKE A LITTLE, LIKE A HOTCH ON WHEELS THERE, WHICH WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD COME IN FOR A FARM STAND APPLICATION FOR BECAUSE THEY'RE BRINGING IT IN EVERY NIGHT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF HE JUST ASSUMED. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. IT WAS REFERRED TO AG ADVISORY. I HAVE TO FOLLOW UP WITH PHIL SCHMIDT. THEY HAD THEIR MEETING ON MONDAY JUST TO SEE WHAT THEY SAID. OKAY. AND I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE A LOT OF FARM STANDS THAT ARE CLOSE TO THE ROAD, BUT THIS IS PRETTY WELL BUILT TO BE THAT CLOSE TO THE ROAD. YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY UNDER THE ZONING BOARD'S PERVIEW TO, YOU KNOW, WEIGH THE, YOU KNOW, DO THE BALANCING TEST FOR THE AREA VARIANCE. I KNOW A LOT OF LIKE SMALLER FARM STANDS ARE CLOSER, FATHER AWAY. AGAIN, IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE I THINK FOR FARM STANDS THEY WANT THE VISIBILITY, BUT THERE'S NO SPECIFIC SETBACK FOR FARM STANDS IN THE CODE. THEY DON'T FALL UNDER ACCESSORY STANDS. OKAY. AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY STRUCTURE SETBACKS BECAUSE IT'S TECHNICALLY IN THE FRONT YARD. SO WE JUST DEFER TO THE PRINCIPAL STRUCTURE SETBACKS AND APZ AT 60 FEET. I SUSPECT THAT GIVEN THE NAME HEN-PECKED HUSBAND, HIS WIFE MADE HIM DO IT. JUST GUESSING. AND HEATHER, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE RAIL FENCE, THE IRON FENCE? YEAH, SO I INCLUDED BECAUSE THE BACK PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WAS SOLD TO THE TOWN, THE FARM LAND COMMITTEE, ALL THE STRUCTURES BACK THERE HAD TO GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS WITH THEM. SO THEY APPROVED AN EIGHT FOOT POST AND WIRE DEER FENCE AROUND THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTY, EVEN WITHIN THE RETAINED AREA. AND IT WAS UP THERE. AND AT SOME POINT HE SWITCHED THE FRONTAGE ALONG NORTHVILLE TURNPIKE TO THAT BLACK ESTATE FENCE. IT'S THE SAME HEIGHT, BUT IT'S A DIFFERENT MATERIAL. AND I KNOW HE DID GO TO FARMLAND, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THEY APPROVED OF IT OR NOT. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I NEED TO DO SOME FURTHER INVESTIGATION ON BECAUSE IF IT'S IN THE RETAINED PORTION, TECHNICALLY HE DOESN'T NEED FARMLAND APPROVAL. BUT EIGHT FEET EXCEEDS THE ALLOWABLE FENCE HEIGHT. IT SHOULD BE FOUR FEET, RIGHT? FOUR FEET IN THE FRONT. BUT WE ALLOW FARMS TO HAVE THE EIGHT FOOT DEER FENCE. BUT I THINK LIKE IN MOST CASES IT'S... WE LOOKED IT UP BEFORE THE MEETING, AND THERE'S REALLY NO CRITERIA, SADLY, THAT SAYS DEER FENCING. YEAH. SO THAT'S SOMETHING I NEED TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF HOMEWORK ON MY END. BUT I INCLUDE IT IN THE STAFF REPORT JUST SO YOU'RE ALL AWARE. THANK YOU. AND THAT FENCE THAT HE JUST PUT IN, HEATHER, IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE ROAD? YEAH. IT'S WHOLLY WITHIN HIS PROPERTY. AND I MEAN TECHNICALLY YOU CAN PUT FENCES RIGHT UP TO YOUR PROPERTY LINE. YOU JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE NOT ENCROACHING INTO THE RIGHT OF WAY. ANYTHING ELSE, GENERAL? ANYTHING ELSE? THAT WAY I CAN GIVE THEM A LAUNDRY LIST TO LOOK OVER. ALL RIGHT. SO IF THEY'RE SUCCESSFUL WITH THE ZONING BOARD, WE'LL BE BACK. OKAY. THANK YOU. STAY RIGHT UP THERE, HEATHER, BECAUSE WE HAVE ITEM NUMBER TWO, 47 PELLETREU LLC FARMSTAND. I THINK KEN JEN IS HERE. WE'RE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT FOR THIS ONE. DO YOU WANT TO COME UP, KEN? HELLO, KEN. GOOD EVENING.
DO YOU HAVE ALL THE SURVEYS? OKAY. I THINK I'M GOING TO PUT IT IN THIS EBA FILE. ALL RIGHT. SO THIS APPLICATION IS ALSO FOR FARMSTAND. IT'S WITHIN AN APPLICANT. IT'S AN EXISTING FARM. IT'S LOCATED AT 2241 ROADOAK AVENUE, SEPA COUNTY TAXA NUMBER 600-42-1-24.2. SO THIS IS THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS RELIEF. IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT CASE. SO THE SUBJECT PARCEL IS ONLY .91 ACRES. SO IT DOESN'T MEET THE ACRES REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A FARMSTAND OTHER THAN THE ALLEGIABILITY CRITERIA. SO FOR THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF A FARMING FAMILY, SHE HAS GROUND LEASES WHERE SHE HAS ACRES WHERE SHE'S GROWN AND WILL BE GROWING HER FLOWERS, WHICH WILL BE FOR SALE AT THE FARMSTAND. UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY THAT THE ALLEGIABILITY CRITERIA IS WORDED, BECAUSE THE AG PRODUCTION ISN'T HAPPENING ON THE SUBJECT PARCEL WHERE THE FARMSTAND IS, SHE NEEDS TO GET RELIEF FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR THAT. SO AGAIN, AN APPLICATION HAS BEEN MADE, AND THE ZBA WILL BE HEARING THIS CASE AT THEIR MEETING NEXT WEEK. SO THE EXISTING BARN HAS BEEN THERE. IT HAS A LETTER OF PREEXISTING USE, AND THIS WAS ACTUALLY PART OF A LARGER PARCEL OF LAND THAT UNDERWENT A SUBDIVISION YEARS AGO. SO AT ONE POINT, IF YOU CAN SEE ON THE SURVEY HERE, THERE'S LOT TWO, LOT THREE, AND LOT ONE. IT WAS SPLIT INTO THREE SEPARATE PARCELS. LOT ONE IS ACTUALLY THE APPLICANT'S OWN RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. LOT TWO HAS THE BARN. AND THEN LOT THREE IS STILL FULLY ENGAGED IN AGRICULTURAL PRODUCTION. OH, YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE SIZE IN TOTALITY. LOT THREE, WHICH IS I THINK STILL UNDER OWNERSHIP OF THE FAMILY. WHERE IS LOT THREE? IS THAT THE NORTHERN MOST? IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF ROANOKE. SO ROANOKE AVENUE IS HERE. THIS IS GOING NORTH. LOT TWO IS WHERE THE BARN IS. OKAY. AND TO THE WEST, LIKE BEHIND EVERYTHING, IS THAT 50-ACRE PARCEL. OH, THAT'S LOT THREE. THAT'S LOT THREE. SO THIS AT ONE POINT WAS ALL ONE PROPERTY, BUT IT GOT SUBDIVIDED. SO THAT SORT OF CREATES THE ISSUE, YOU KNOW, SHE WANTS TO USE THE EXISTING BARN AS A FARM STAND, BUT BECAUSE OF THE ELIGIBILITY CRITERIA AND THE WORDING IN TOWN CODE, SHE NEEDS SOWNING BOARD OF APPEALS RELIEF BECAUSE IT'S NOT. WHERE'S THE ACCESS TO LOT NUMBER THREE? SO IF YOU LOOK HERE, THIS IS PART OF LOT THREE. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO HERE TOO. SO IT'S NOT CREATING A LANDLOCK? NO, NO, NO. OKAY. AND THE PARCEL WHERE THE BARN IS HAS FRONTAGE ALONG THE RENDER GIVING YOU. THERE'S AN EXISTING CURB CUT AND A STONE DRIVEWAY. SO LET'S JUST SKIP FORWARD. I REFERRED THIS TO ENGINEERING. DREW HAD NO COMMENTS. IT'S AN EXISTING STRUCTURE. THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY SORT OF ADDITIONS TO IT. SHE DID PROVIDE GROUND LEASES FOR HER. THE LEASE FARM PARCEL IS JUST TO SHOW THAT SHE NEEDS THE AVERAGE REQUIREMENTS AND WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE AG EXCEPTION. DOES THE FACILITY HAVE A RESTROOM OR ARE YOU GOING TO USE A PORT? IT DOES, RIGHT? YEAH, THE LPEU IS FOR THE BARN AND THE BATHROOM. SO THE BATHROOM IS THERE ALREADY. I DID INQUIRE AS TO THE LOCATION OF THE SANITARY SYSTEM. AND THE SURVEYOR WAS ABLE TO SHOW THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE SANITARY SYSTEM. I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW OLD IT IS. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BENEFIT THE AG. SO I'M JUST GOING TO ASK THE AG TO KNOW THOSE DETAILS IF THERE'S EVER AN ISSUE IN THE FUTURE. I DID REFER IT OVER TO HIGHWAY JUST TO SEE IF MIKE HAD ANY INPUT. I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING BACK. BUT, AGAIN, THE CURB CUT THAT'S THERE IS EXISTING. THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY NEW PARKING AREAS. BUT IN THE APPLICATION, IT WAS DEMONSTRATED THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE MORE THAN ENOUGH PARKING FOR VEHICLES. THEY HAVE THIS AREA, THE LITTLE TURNAROUND HERE, AND THEN THE GRASS AREAS. BUT WITH THE OTHER FARMING AREAS, THEY HAVE A LITTLE TURNAROUND HERE. SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THE APPLICATION, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE AN ACCESSIBLE STALL DELINEATED ON THERE. YOU KNOW, AND IMPROVED APPROPRIATELY. THERE ARE CERTAIN TYPES OF GRAVEL THAT CAN BE USED. AND THEN THIS WAS REFERRED TO AG ADVISORY AS WELL. AND THEY MET ON MONDAY. WERE YOU THERE, KEN? I WAS NOT, BUT MY CLIENT WAS, AND SHE SAID THEY WERE SUPPORTING. OKAY. SO, I MEAN, AGAIN, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH BILL SCHMIDT AND THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE TO CONFIRM. I'M STILL CONFUSED AS TO WHERE THIS IS. I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU THE INTERSECTION OF THE STAND. NO, NO, NO, JUST LISTEN FOR A MINUTE. OKAY. I HAVE A MAP HERE THAT SAYS YOUNG AND YOUNG. AND IT'S LOT TWO AND LOT THREE. AND THEN THERE'S A MAP, THERE'S A STRUCTURE IN THE MIDDLE. THAT'S THE RESIDENT HOUSE. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY LOT ONE ON THE SUBDIVISION MAP. I THINK THEY INCLUDED THAT JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA. LIKE, THEY LIVE RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE CLOSED FARM STANDS. OKAY. AND THEN THIS THEN BECOMES THE FARM LOT. THIS IS THE FARM LOT, RIGHT? DOES THAT SAY FRAME BARN ON IT? YES, THAT'S THE FARM. THAT'S WHERE THE FARM STAND IS GOING TO BE WITHIN THE FARM. OKAY. I JUST DIDN'T KNOW WHERE IT WAS BECAUSE I HAD ANOTHER MAP. WAS THERE ANOTHER ONE? ON YOUR WAY HOME TODAY, GO NORTH ON ROANOAK AND YOU'LL SEE IT. I KNOW WHERE IT IS. BUT IT'S AN OLD BARN AND SHE RESTORED IT. THEY RECEIVED A MAP. I THINK IT'S FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO DO NEW ELECTRIC IN THE BATHROOM AND THROUGHOUT THE BARN. I BELIEVE THERE WERE SOME OTHER CHANGES MADE THAT NEED TO BE FOLLOWED UP WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. BUT IF FARM STAND APPROVAL IS GRANTED, THEY'LL NEED A CORRESPONDING PERMIT AND CO FOR THAT. SO I FEEL LIKE THAT COULD ALL BE HANDLED UNDER ONE PERMIT. I HAVE A QUESTION. IT SAYS ON HERE PROPOSED USES. IT SAYS FLOWER FARM, BARM STAND CLASSES AND BARN EVENTS. WHAT ARE BARN EVENTS? I SPOKE WITH PEGGY THE OTHER DAY AND I GUESS THE QUILTING ASSOCIATION OR I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'VE REACHED OUT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO DO SORT OF A QUILTING FESTIVAL. I INFORMED HER THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE HANDLED THROUGH A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT THROUGH THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE IF IT'S PUBLIC. IF SHE WANTED TO DO PRIVATE FLOWER CLASSES AS ACCESSORY USED TO THE FARM STAND, AS LONG AS THE FIRE MARSHAL AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT ARE SATISFIED WITH THE SAFETY OF THE BUILDING AND THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO THAT. IF THEY DON'T EXCEED WHATEVER OCCUPANCY THEY'RE LIMITED TO, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE AN ISSUE. THAT WAS MY CONCERN BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S PLENTY OF PARKING AND IT IS A BIG BARN. I WAS THINKING WEDDINGS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD YOU EXPECT TO HAVE AT A QUILTING? SHE'S GOING TO COMPLY WITH THE TOWN CODE. SO WHATEVER THE TOWN CODE REQUIRES OF HER. SHE'S VERY SAVVY. SHE DOES READ IT A LOT. SO SHE'S AWARE OF WHAT THE TOWN CODE AND WHAT SPECIAL EVENTS ARE. WHAT TRIGGERS A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT APPLICATION. SHE DOES LIVE NEXT DOOR. SO SHE'S NOT LOOKING TO HAVE A 300 PERSON WEDDING WITH ONE BATHROOM AND HER AND HER HUSBAND AND HER FAMILY LIVING RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE PROPERTY. BUT SHE IS AWARE OF CODE REQUIREMENTS AND OCCUPANCY. THE FIRE MARSHAL WILL PUT AN OCCUPANCY REQUIREMENT AND SHE WILL COMPLY WITH WHATEVER THE TOWN CODE. SO THEY'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE FIRE MARSHALS AND EVERYTHING AS FAR AS THAT? THEY'LL HAVE TO FOLLOW. I HAVE NOT. SHE MAY HAVE BEEN. I KNOW I HAVE NOT BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE FIRE MARSHAL. BUT DEFINITELY THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, THAT'S GOING TO BE, I BELIEVE THEY ALREADY REFERRED THE APPLICATION. OKAY. AND THEN WE GO TO THE ZONING BOARD NEXT WEEK. SO IT'S ALL PREDICATED ON THE ZONING BOARD IF THEY GRANT THE RELIEF OR NOT. AND THEN THEY WOULD COME BACK AND IF FARM STAND APPROVAL IS GRANTED SUBJECT TO WHATEVER POSITIONS, THEY WOULD ALSO NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROPER BUILDING AND FIRE MARSHAL PERMITS. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAPPY EASTER, EVERYBODY. SAME TO YOU. SAME TO YOU. THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE TO DISCUSSION ITEM NUMBER THREE, EC BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE PROJECT WITH MATT CHARTERS. YOU CAN COME. YEAH, YOU GUYS COME HERE. COME ON. YOU WANT TO HOLD IT UP AGAIN? YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. CAN YOU SHOW US THAT DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP DROPUMP You have that plan right in the middle. That'll be very helpful. Just watch the money. I don't want to get you in trouble.
Steven, while we're setting up, if you can introduce everybody. Sure. Good afternoon. Thank you for having us. Steven LaSquadra on behalf of DC Battery Storage, a project on Edwards Avenue in Calverton, immediately adjacent to the railroad tracks. The developer on the project is Rhineland Energy. A principal of Rhineland Energy is here. He's immediately to my right. That's Gus Hadidi. We have Walter Sieber. He's from IMEC, our engineers and architects on the project. Should there be any questions that you might have regarding site layout or any particulars beyond what Matt is going to describe, Walter would be very happy to answer those. And, of course, we have to my left Paul Rogers from ESRG. Paul's a veteran at FDNY. Hi. Surely, by anyone's measure, the leading fire safety expert, and consultant regarding battery energy storage projects in the country, works very closely with Andrew Smith, your fire marshal. And Paul and I have also worked closely with Andrew and the fire commissioners of the Riverhead Fire District to explain the nature of the project and also training that will come to be provided by the applicant in the future. Should you like any detail on that, again, beyond what Matt's going to say, Paul can address that with you. And I'll certainly supplement that as needed. So that's who we are here now. And, again, based on what Matt has to say, we'll certainly add to that. Good. All right. I distributed a staff report to you guys all in the packet. I know it's a little bit long, but I think it was a good exercise to get everybody familiar with Tier 2 battery energy storage systems. The board is not aware. In 2023, the town did adopt a code, largely based on the Max Erdogan model code, with some added... restrictions that are a little bit more Riverhead-specific to sort of beef it up to allow these uses within the town. This application in particular has been in for a little while. It did get caught in the industrial moratorium that was in Calverton while we did the update. That's lifted. So they've done some revisions to make sure everything is compliant. It's been working sort of in the background. And not before you. This application was discussed before the town board this morning at work session because it does require a site plan and a special permit. The town board obviously... Half of the operation, you have the site plan due to its location. So what's the procedure? Who goes first? You can really review concurrently. Obviously, you guys can't make a decision until the town board grants special permit approval. I mean, it's really at the applicant's risk to proceed with both. However, you know, from what you saw in the staff report, I want to say probably 90% of the code provisions that we have in place are met or exceeded. There's some tweaking that we need, but it largely complies to the supplementary... ...the supplementary code that we have. Just to familiarize everybody with the site and what they're seeking, this is a 60 megawatt or 120 megawatt battery energy storage system. So how that works is, you know, to my, you know, basic understandings, they purchase power from the grid usually when production is high, demand is low, and then it gets put back into the grid when demand is high. Lithium ion technology, which are batteries everyone should be familiar with at this point in time, they're in consumer production. They're in electric cars, hybrid cars, pretty much all aspects of your daily life. The site itself is a 1.6 acre parcel on Edwards Avenue, as Steven mentioned. Currently it has the headquarters for Long Island Farm Bureau, and there's a service garage behind it. Everything is proposed to be removed. The point of interconnection is right behind this site, so they'll be connecting to the grid, the underground conduit to that substation that's right there. To the north there's a fuel... . I want to say like a fuel depot across the street. There's a cabinet maker and the Hampton Jitney bus depot's further up the road. Railroad tracks right to the south. Just beyond the railroad tracks there are some residential parcels. So in the staff report it's pretty explicit as to what they need to do. In terms of secret, this is an unlisted action where this board is named as an involved agency. The town board has requested lead agency. It's staff's recommendation that the town board assumes lead agency unless the planning board, which is the district that feels like they need to be, which I don't think that's the case. No. Situated...this is in the CI zoning use district, which is battery energy storage. It's a permitted use in that zone. So going through the code compliance, which starts on page four, most things are pretty much complied with. Starting on page five, we'll just need an accurate quantification for lot coverage, which is an engineering thing. Just because we changed our definition of impervious coverage, this use does allow up to 75% of the load. This is a very good thing. [transcription gap] that to be just a little bit more dense probably 10 feet a little bit better they'll have to maybe condense a little bit on site to meet that standard but in terms of screening it looks good there's also a nice buffer on the road which will help screen the facility similar to what we do for our solar installations where there's a nice dense evergreen buffer so you won't be able to see the property moving on to page six is where we talk about accessory versus principal uses a tier two system could be either in this case it's a principal use letter d of the code is avoidance area so this is one of the things we added to the to our code areas where these uses wouldn't be wouldn't be appropriate so flood hazard zones open space areas uh parcels containing primax soil historically or culturally significant resource areas designated conservation areas scenic corridors or within jurisdiction of any wetlands this site is in not within any proximity to any of those avoidance areas so that's that's a good thing in terms of submission we do have a site plan application and the special permit which you will be as i said earlier reviewing the site plan application so in that application we have requirements that are specific to battery energy storage one is a commissioning plan this is a requirement of the uniform code so they have to get commissioned before their final inspection for building before they can essentially go live that will be a requirement of any approval this board or the town board makes on to the next page we have a fire safety compliance plan that will need to be you know in a final form before an approval is issued the fire marshal has started reviewing that operation and maintenance manual we have and uh an erosion and sediment control plan this project will need to slip because it's over an equal of disturbance so he'll need to we'll need approval from that for the town engineer in terms of fencing they need the fencing requirements um it's going to be fully enclosed with a security fence to keep people at which is a good thing keep the site secure there's uh safety requirements in terms of signage uh those are ansi standards to let everyone know this is like a high voltage uh installation and to warn anyone's there that's there lighting is really i think for safety and emergency only on sites dark skies compliant uh noise is one thing i've asked for more information on which i've since received from the applicant because the so there's noise associated with fans that are in all these units but also the switch gear and the transformer do make a significant and a an amount of noise which i'm sure the board's aware from this from the solar uh installations that we have uh the preliminary sound study that we have indicates that with the residents that are to the south the sound levels will be just about as the same as the normal everyday sound levels vegetation to tree cutting again just more discussion about the buffer and then what's combustible or not i have that reference in here and then let's see so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so professional engineer is it like a is there a normal life to this site I believe 25 to 30 years is the estimate if I understand correctly 20 years 20 years yeah I had a couple questions to Matt yeah you're Walter you're from a call a KRF no I am NOT I make oh I make oh okay no I read this cover to cover yeah pretty pretty comprehensive yes that's the enhanced environmental analysis yeah that was done by actually took the time to read it in this document probably a hundred times says tier two what's the criteria for children so tier two that's a code requirement for us that's over a certain kilowatt hour Oh kilowatt okay yeah so understand what that was it was in a numerous times yeah which are these grid scale ones that are considered or I guess for Walter Paul right yes yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the proximity to the fuel farm just to the north of it is that an issue to be concerned with or yeah the fire marshal I said also he wants us to conduct a heat flux analysis based on a ul95 48 testing on skill fire testing where they actually put a worst-case scenario there and they grab a lot of data one of them happens to be heat release rates and then that's something that we have to prepare okay that's coming yeah that that's coming yeah it's something that Andrew requested my next section I have all of my referral comments so what Andrew basically asked for is a fire fire safety analysis for this site in relation to the fuel storage are there any kind of waves emitted like microwaves or any other kind of waves emitted nothing that comes out of the EMF studies that we've done in the past and the it says the boxes have a two-hour burn rate did I read that correctly that's our energy right energy rate energy rate okay the other thing how is I guess Vinnie Gordiello is going to determine how is it going to determine something that's going to be torn down 20 or 30 so they're engineers this is a typical thing that we do this with solar too there's a percentage you can assign in terms of cost on how much it would do now and then a future cost okay it's not a typical so it's an easy question yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm sure we'll have plenty of questions but that's all I have right now in terms of referrals so this has been under review for a little bit of time so we did get comments back from SHPO in January saying that there's no effect on any archaeological historic resources in the area by this application the town engineer did need some revisions to the plan and also noted that this requires a swift DEC noted that this is not within the wild and scenic rivers area and there's no freshwater wetlands within you know jurisdictional area but there are northern long-eared bats within three miles so we'll have the trees clearing requirements that you can't cut down trees between March 1st and November 30th this went before the Suffolk County Planning Commission in February in which they voted to approve with conditions number one was Suffolk County Planning Commission finds that first responder training is essential for any new best system so they want hazmat training so this is something that was in the !
so this is something that's clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear [transcription gap] clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear [transcription gap] And one of the things that the town board requested, which we're happy to agree to, is that in addition to the specific training, that by the way will be ongoing, that Matt just referred to, we'll also bring in, as they wish, other neighboring jurisdictions. So, Wading River, Manorville, Jamesport. They'll all be invited as well. This training is done on site, or do you guys have a facility somewhere where firemen go to train? Yeah, and what we'd like to do is a mixture of both, right, where we may have some indoor training and then eventually go out and do a walkthrough of the actual site so they can see. So once the site's complete, or is it like ongoing training as you're building it? These guys are being trained if something were to happen. Through the construction phase, is that what you're saying? Yes. Yeah, well, it becomes a little bit more precarious during the construction site, so we don't like to bring people on during the construction phase of it. But we could possibly give them an update on when the batteries become live, when they're going to be on the site. Yeah. When they're actually brought to the location, they're usually about 30% state of charge as per the U.S. DOT shipping regulations. Right. But they're not being charged back and forth to the grid yet. They're just dormant at the time. But there's still a lot of state of charge. Even a construction accident while this is being built. Sure. And these guys, they're not particularly going to a fire, but they're... Right. And that is something that we, you know, I'll make that recommendation that New York City does where they have, in the event of a construction accident, there's an 800 number they call the subject matter expert, which was something that was included already in the 15 recommendations that was mentioned before, where they'll have someone that can just testify to the department that has to be there within a certain amount of time. Yeah. You can provide somebody there that fast? The code says four hours. The code says a four-hour time. You can be there within four hours, but they said the maximum amount. Fifteen minutes on the phone, that's considered immediate in the code world. So immediate could be... You know, pretty quick. But they give up to 15 minutes as considered immediate. These are all part of the recommendations that came out of what Matt referred to as the New York State Working Group. The state fire code now is being enhanced. Paul was one of the critical people involved in helping write this new proposed code. The code is now actually set, so we're just waiting for adoption. But when it's enacted, which should be relatively soon, it'll be the strictest in the country. So that will apply here. Another thing I'd mention, too, with respect to getting ready and getting people familiar, yesterday Paul and I were in Staten Island with Andrew, and that was a two-hour site visit at a functioning facility. So it's a battery energy storage facility in Staten Island that's operational, and we had a very detailed walkthrough yesterday so that he could see firsthand how this works in a situation that's actual and not theoretical. So we're going to be working on that. [transcription gap] Okay. All right. So second condition from the Planning Commission was just they'd, rather than, I think, seeing the water permeate through the site because they have gravel now, they wanted catch basins just in terms of this is in a special groundwater protection area in case of an emergency and there's heavy metals or something from the batteries that are going into the groundwater. I'm actually going to reach out to them for more specifics in that regard. They'd also like to see a demolition and recycling. Okay. So that's the plan. These are in the comments now. Incorporation of all the draft fire code language, which the applicant has already told you that they're complying with. Moving on to our consulting engineer. Still same thing, more revisions. They just need all existing utilities shown on the plan. And then more specifics in terms of the decommissioning plan, a detail of the sound wall. They need to include the cost construction estimate in the decommissioning plan. And Vinny also noted the requirement for a SWIP. Riverhead Fire District, we got comments back in February expressing their concerns of the proximity to the site to the fuel storage facility and the need for a vehicle, which the applicant can speak more to that. And then Fire Marshal, again, just that they're asking for a fire apparatus staging area, outside the fence so they can essentially establish a command post if there is an issue at the property that's safe, at a safe distance. And then hazmat training as well. That's really it at this point in time. Like I said, this is our very first step. I have no action before this board today. The applicant's here to answer any questions. They're moving through the special permit site plan process. We just have an acknowledgment that you guys don't want lead agency for secret. We can do that via a memo to the town board. And I think that's it for me. Before we get started, Matt, I just have three quick questions. You had a, who owns the property just to the east of the proposed site? To the... Now, I know there's a substation there. You were saying it's going to be an underground conduit? Yeah, so I think it's LIPA that's right to the back. That is correct. So they own that piece in between the substation and the proposed? Yeah. You don't need an easement then? They'll need an easement, for sure, from LIPA. We'll work with LIPA on that. Yeah, to underground conduit. Okay. On the, in case something happens and you have to have a removal, or if the company goes out of business, is there a bond? Yes, that's the decommissioning fund. So they establish, that's like the future fund we were talking about earlier, so they'll establish the cost now of what it would be to decommission the entire site. Right. And then there's a cost factor that's applied for, you know, to establish what the future cost would be. And it establishes who would be responsible for doing the decommissioning. Right. And my last question is, gentlemen, these are volunteer firemen. And in case of an emergency, they're supposed to have hazmat, you know, training. Yeah. And you guys will pay for that? Are there any salaries going to be paid out for an emergency, something like this? I don't know. Not to my knowledge. I mean, it's just that it's a little. Do you know where I'm getting? They're volunteers, and then you're asking them to go into a situation. Okay. It could be. Okay. [transcription gap] Extremely. That you don't deal with every day. Yeah. I think it should. Well, I should say this. Andrew arranged for us to meet with all the commissions of the fire district. I would never presume to speak for them, because obviously they'll speak to you, I'm sure, as well. And I know you folks know most, if not all, of them. But I would offer that they were very satisfied with the meeting. Their principal interest was training. They're very comfortable with the fact that Paul and his team will provide it. Paul's with ESRG. That's the Energy Safety Response Group. And they are the leaders nationally. And they're former very high ranking FDNY officials. So that training will be, as we said, provided and ongoing will be given. Another request that they had as well, which was important, was their principal concern, was that they wanted to invest in a particular vehicle, equipment, that they earmarked at a certain price point. And they said they thought it would come in at about $80,000, $90,000. So what the applicant committed was that the applicant would provide $100,000, just to take into account that prices could fluctuate. And this way then they'll be able to purchase the exact vehicle that they want to buy. So that commitment has already been established. And Andrew was present when that was done with the commissioners. So there'd be a designated vehicle just to respond to an incident at this site. I imagine they could use it for other purposes as well. And that would be good if they could do that. Because the better they could use it, better for them. But certainly the vehicle that they want is what they'll now be able to purchase. Okay. I think my question was, there's no other compensation for the town in case of this type of. I think it's just the nature of fire districts online. They're all volunteer. There's not really much we can do in that regard. It's just a function of how they're established. I'm just asking because I don't think anybody has an idea out here in case something like that happens. Understood. I can add to that if you'd like. We addressed this in the codes. Two of the three incidents, one in Warwick, New York, and the other one up in Jefferson County, which is Schmunt, New York upstate by the Canada border. I responded to both of those and they were all volunteer fire service people. They took a defensive action and actually did the right thing during that particular time. We talked afterwards and we knew that we were going to actually fortify the codes at that particular time. We sat down and we asked them what they would need. They understood that they would still be there running the incident. They're the incident commander. But they didn't want to have that. They didn't want to wait there later on. Sometimes when they do fail, if there is a fire that takes place, it may go dormant for a while but it could come back to life. So they didn't want to sit on there for watching this thing. This is exactly why we put this SME hazard support group together to take over on that handoff so this way they wouldn't be tied up watching this thing wondering if it's going to go back on fire. Thank you. [transcription gap] One more quick question. Has any one of these ever been built so close to the railroad tracks where vibration would be an issue? It has? No. That's a great question. There is one in Corona, Queens. It's right next to the subway. It's a small facility. I think it's about five megawatts. Sometimes buildings as they age, with the vibration from the trains. I mean, we've got trains. We've got trains. [transcription gap] I mean, we don't have that much train traffic out here, but still. They do have to abide by the, in the fire code, the seismic. So they do have to abide by that. And the battery energy source systems are tested to seismic. So that's all taken into consideration? It is taken into consideration as per the fire code. And like Gus said, there's one literally 10 feet away from a train on Loyola Railroad in Queens. Corona? That's right. Okay. So these store these? These are the batteries that are stored in the battery packs. So it sits strictly on concrete, not on any type of spring system? No. It's on concrete slabs. Strictly on concrete slabs. You can have them on grade as well. That really depends on the geotech. Okay. On your drawing, what is that box that's in the corner? That's a transformer. That's how you step up the voltage from the site's voltage, from the power conversion. To about 34.5. 34.5. [transcription gap] 34.5. [transcription gap] to about 34.5 kV, and then it goes through the main transformer that stuffs up the voltage up to 138 kV to match the voltage within the substation. And so is this a gradual thing, or is everything going to be—do you have to gradually get all of the power, or is it instantaneous? I see that there's a number of sight drawings, or what do we call them? The battery blocks. Yeah. This all will be built at once, and then when it operates, you're essentially storing energy on a duration basis. So it takes two hours to charge and two hours to discharge the system. But each one of them, each one will be manned—not manned, charged? That's right. That's right. At the same time? That's right. Oh, okay. So you can think of this whole system as being a water tank or a water tower. Fill it up when there's excess energy or excess water, when there's a drought. Well, I'm just thinking that you've got to fill it first, all right? That's right. That's right. Do you guys plan to take any of the electric from the solar panels across the street? We operate on a transmission level. So we buy and sell our energy. We have a lot of energy on a transmission level, and that's on a different level. So we work with the New York ISO on buying and selling of power. Okay. But in the future, you don't know? Ultimately, this becomes a complementary system for wind and solar. So the idea behind, or the notion behind battery storage right now, the focus is resiliency and transmission fortification by installing these systems to boost the transmission system on Long Island. But as wind and solar becomes more prevalent, then what you do is you're essentially levelizing that non-baseload production of energy. You don't know when the sun's going to shine, when the wind's going to blow. There's a lot of volatility in production. You come in and you levelize that using battery storage. Okay. All right. Anything else, gentlemen? Okay. Thank you for watching. Thank you very much. Thank you. [transcription gap] Thanks again. Happy Easter. Same to you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Matt.
Losing my memory. Happy Easter, everyone. Same to you.
Okay, discussion item number four, 1080-1120, Old Country Road facade renovations with Marissa.
Marissa, don't be nervous. Nice to meet you.
If everyone who's here can introduce themselves. Jacqueline Peranto, principal owner of Key Civil Engineering. I'm the site engineer for the project. I'm TJ McKeever. I'm a project manager for Bricksmore Property Group in honor of this property. I'm a construction project manager. Frankie Campione, principal with the architects. What's your first name? I'm sorry. Frankie Campione. Thank you. Introduce yourself. Marissa. Marissa Donowski. Site plan reviewer. Yeah. All right, what do you got, Marissa? So, the planning for it. We received a site plan application entitled 1080-1120 Old Country Road facade changes. It's for the property located at 1080 Old Country Road, also known as Suffolk County Tax Act number 600-108-3-18. The site plan application is seeking approval to perform the exterior modification of the site plan. So, we're going to be doing a lot of work on that. So, we're going to be doing a lot of work on that. We're going to be doing a lot of work on that. that includes facade improvements to an existing multi-tenant commercial building within the ronal plaza shopping center some of you also might know it as the old tj max space the proposed alterations will utilize the existing entry doors curbing and walkways and it's to provide an additional two uh two front door entrances with a new um ada curving to the existing retail space um and then also there is a side exit door they are looking to replace that um with a metal staircase uh metal staircase and railing and redo the door um
the a little bit information about the site um it is a approximately 75 000 um square feet um all multi-tenant retail uh building there's also a approximate 12 000 square foot building um where the chase bank is and then there is another approximate 12 000 square foot detached building and that is currently where cvs is um um route 50 um and it is in within the shop uh shopping center zoning
is the facility going to be paved yes so it's currently in it's currently improved uh paved um and then the exterior facade of like the curbing i mean like the actual asphalt surface are they repaving this site oh no that is not being proposed currently um
so the proposed uh concrete walkways and curvings um are to be ada compliant modifications for this facade improvements entail uh new paint stucco and concrete finishes um to the existing sore front and then additional um two proposed storefronts as well um the new doors and windows are to replace like and kind of the existing storefront and create the additional spaces um
and then like i said before um the existing um exterior exit on located on the northwest side of the building is to be uh removed and replaced with the metal stairs and railings so you'll have clear head lights so you'll have clear head lights so you'll have clear head lights [transcription gap] are currently too high than the maximum permitted. So we noticed that while doing the review, we looked over the whole site and noticed that they are way above, and we were looking to make the parcel into the... Dark sky compliant? Yes, correct. Thank you. Which the height is usually 16 feet from level ground, is the highest point is 16 feet. Also as well, the property currently shows areas of landscape islands and locations throughout the site, but it was noted throughout the site that some of the landscape locations, some plantings and other places were bare. So we are asking just for a little bit of like a, a facelift, so to speak, an update, just adding a little bit more plants to the landscape areas.
How about some of these curved areas that look like they need repair? Are you going to be fixing those? So... I'm going to be happy with it. Yeah. Okay. You're more than welcome to, if you wanted to answer his question regarding the curving. Sure. So generally the project is just consisting of taking the one large TJ Maxx tenant and breaking it into three separate retail tenants. So no change in use retail to retail. And in doing so, adding in the new doors and storefront and providing ADA ramps in front of those doors. So we are look... We did look at all the handicap parking that's in front and make sure that the, you know, there's some new signage to bring them back. So we're looking at the current code compliance for the parking stalls that front the tenant space. And then the ramps and sidewalk. So within that area, there'll be some new curving. But throughout the entire shopping center, our intent was not to, you know, go through the entire shopping center and repair various, you know... We didn't walk the entire center. We're focusing strictly on this end cap. Well, I just noticed that in the project report. Okay. So... Okay. [transcription gap] Okay. Okay. that would be able to survive there. So we can send our landscape architect out to the site and take a look at all these areas and then propose some plant material to fill in some of the gaps. Potentially, it's also the timing year where a lot of the perennials are not yet blooming, so it's possible that within a couple of weeks we'll start to see a little bit more plant material pop up. Let's hope so. The one clarification that I wanted to make on the landscaping is that I don't want to as-built every plant and shrub that exists in the shopping center. That's quite an arduous task, but we are happy to do an inventory and then identify additional plant material to be added. That would be acceptable. Yeah, further in this effort report, I did note something of that nature. I also just wanted to state that we did bring this to the Architectural Review Board in regards to the facade improvements, and it was at the March 12th, March 26th meeting. The board requested additional information as the proposed project is currently the one, I would say, the northwest section of the building, and I believe the ARB requested to see what it would look like overall for the whole building itself as they were just mainly focusing on one section, but they wanted to see how it would work with everything. The architect's here with us, and they did email me this morning an updated set of elevations, so we will formally resubmit that back so ARB can look at it. Would you be able to put it up on the camera just so everyone can see? Oh, look at that. It's across two pages.
There we go. All right. So you're just handling the left portion. Yeah, TJ Maxx. So we just wanted to figure out a way to bring new businesses in, and that's by breaking it up into three new tenant spaces. It doesn't look like you're changing the front elevations very much at all, and that shopping center was renovated not too long ago, if I remember correctly. Yep, yeah, TJ Maxx expanded recently. We changed the roof a number of years ago. The facade changes here are really just giving increased, more of a presence to the two tenants we're adding, and then the tenant fashion deals to the left, that's actually work that's proposed and performed by the tenant that's going to be taking that space, which I think the building department just recently submitted an application for. Yep. The other thing that, in my opinion, is drastically needed, because I go to this plaza quite a bit, is trash receptacles in front of both buildings, permanent trash receptacles with some kind of plan to maintain them, because it's very... It's really bad after this. Garbage and paper is blowing around constantly there, if you could look into that. And if you bring it up to, you know, bring the plaza into dark sky lighting, I'm happy. I just wanted to mention about the lighting, because when I brought it up to TJ, he was surprised. There's, back in 2019, they had hired a consultant to do a lighting upgrade, I guess, in being aware of the coaching back then. Unfortunately, the consultant had just replaced all of it. So, we're going to have to go back and put in the proper LED 3000K color lights, but maintain them at the existing full height. So, height is really the issue here. We are going to look at a lighting plan to bring those down, but we're dropping it significantly to 16 feet. And in a large shopping center like this, you know, we don't have residences around us or nearby. There's a apartment complex back, and those lights between the complex and you are out of control. Long and rough. Walmart did it. In the back of the center. Yeah, off the building. It's really bad. Take a look at it at night. Walmart did it. They have no light, you know, no up lighting off their lights. It can be done. And some of those big lights in the back, if you don't want to change them out, you can turn them off. But that parking area that you guys have is one of the biggest abusers in town. And the law has been codified many years ago. I know because I helped draft it. Yeah, they were trying to go back through the history to understand what happened because it sounds like they were trying to do the right thing back then. Yeah, and it was sunset for, 15 years. And you're still not in compliance. So we have to have to work on that. And just so I know and can report this back to my higher ups. So it's mostly that you've noticed the light poles along the property line or the building? The lighting. The lighting. Both. In the entirety. If you go by there at night, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. Okay. The lighting is, and if you go out on Sound Avenue, you can see the glow, you know, from your parking field. So the fixtures that you do, you know, that have the LED lights that they were switched out, the poles themselves I think are almost 30 feet, which is well in excess of the maximum 16 foot. And then the other lights that are in compliance are, they're not downward facing. They don't meet, like Ed said, the building mounted fixtures are way too bright. So we understand, you know, you were coming in for facade work, but you know, Marissa correctly noted in her staff report that this is an issue that needs to be fixed. Okay. So we're going to have to work on that. Okay. So we're going to have to work on that. Okay. So we're going to have to work on that. [transcription gap] And we try to do that as applications come in. Yeah, yeah. Understood. And I think TJ was asking if there's, so if the plans are, you know, if we submit the drawings for the approval of the board to show all of that lighting, is there any way that the planning department can work with them in terms of the installation of it and performing the work? Or will like the CO, can the site CO be pulled a little separately from the tenant interior? And then the tenant interior renovation work so they can, so that the tenants can continue with filing applications to building and doing it? We've had applications like this before. And we tend to want to keep them all together in one project, not separate them out like that. Well, I mean it is one project from the eyes of my company, being that it's the three tenant spaces that we're breaking it up into. And, you know, I want to give the town whatever leverage it needs to enforce and I will echo the sentiment that you guys are giving me here today to the people who can make these things happen in my company. So we want to comply. We want to get there and have it comply. I can tell you that currently my mandate and my project budget can't support finishing it right at this moment, but I want to be able to, I want it to happen. My thought, and Jackie was kind of alluding to this, is that maybe a CO for the middle tenant space or, you know, one of the tenant spaces being tied to complying to that dark sky compliance regulation. Yeah, unfortunately the law for dark skies I think was passed in 2005. Yeah, and it sunsetted in 2017. Until 2017. So it's, the board usually takes the strong position that it's a condition of approval that has to be met prior to CO. It's not our opinion that we want it to happen. CO being the sign off of the facade. Yeah. I mean, we've gone so far on other applications we've done prior to the signature of like, prior to the signature of the plans, because otherwise we're just kicking this can down the road. Yeah, down the road. To the chairman's point, when the code was adopted, they gave applicants and commercial property owners 10 years to comply, saying that it could be done in 10% increments so that you're not going to have a huge up and up cost, but now we're nearly 20 years down the road. Yeah. We're so clear about that. We're clear about that. [transcription gap] the front doesn't if those heads that are in the front if the heads comply with dark skies does the front have to be changed as well even though the height doesn't meet your current ordinance yeah that's right so it's 16 feet to the lowest light admitting portion of the fixture that's the maximum height and then 3,000 kilometers so it's not necessarily a dark skies it's a dark it's it's really the way to say it it's the code I mean the option would be to go to the Board of Zoning Appeals for a height which I presume would not be looked favorite I mean if Home Depot is looking to do the same thing yeah they are gonna be coming in with compliant lighting yeah so just so you were we've had other applicants that have changed the heads and just cut the poles yes staple shopping center you know I we under it's what's gonna happen is when that happens you're gonna get dark spots you're gonna have to add additional poles and lights to fill in the blanks and it's not always so easy as just you know because of the spacing of 60-foot drive I you know bays between parking it's not gonna be so easy to just pluck one where you want it and it might end up being a whole new thing but there's some lease commitments with raw you know you've received the application already from Ross so you're aware that they're moving quickly and they need to get in there and it's a new presence for them on Long Island so there's a lease commitment which is TJ's concern of being able to meet with that one tenant so you know again that's why we're just trying to think of a way to you know can that one tenant you know be able to continue to move forward and you know the other tenants and facade work be held you know because we understand we understand where and you have done you know neither of us were part of the decision made by the company and we want to comply and you know yeah yeah you know we want to comply I just would love to figure out a way that it doesn't hold up really just really just a little bit of time and I think that's a really good way to do it. so you're clear so clear so clear so clear so clear so clear so clear so clear so clear so clear so Because they're eager to open this year. Unfortunately, it leaves us in a position where we lose the ability to enforce. This is the hook, essentially. I also have a lease commitment with the dark lettering on the right side, which is a boot farm, which I also hope to open this year. And I have a lease commitment with them. I mean, if we get tied to that in some way, I believe that will light a fire under the people of Brixmore that can make these decisions to allow this to happen. Just for a consistency standpoint, that's what we're going to do. Unfortunately. I mean, I don't want to speak for the board, the board can opine otherwise, but we like to be consistent. We really haven't done it for anybody else. We're trying to get everybody to comply. It's been 20 years that people could have bought their properties under compliance. But we want to help you. We're not going to hold you up or anything. Like that. But you have to comply to the town code. Maybe you should submit a schedule. Yeah. A schedule for the lighting. With the lighting. I'm going to submit a lighting plan that would show lights, photometrics, you know, call out the make and model. All of that. Yep. And then also my only comment, just because I liaise with the ARB, I know they had asked for a full elevation of the facade with color. Just so we can see the context of the changes to what the existing is. That's what the right side is now. So we're not changing anything else. So it's going to remain the different color? The left side with the three new tenants are currently the currently the design ends at the edge of the TJ Maxx and the former TJ Maxx. Right. We're accommodating the new fashion tenant that's coming on the left side as well as the right and worked with them on colors that both associate with their branding because they're new to Long Island. As you know, they're new to Long Island. You know, but then not too much contrast with the rest of the shopping center. As opposed to them being white or something like that.
So if we were to if we were to take the existing poles that we have at the center, lower them down to comply to the height restriction, make sure the heads are compliant. Then until I can get those new. Poles at the new locations, then we're we're noncompliant in terms of the amount of lighting required at the site. So and and for the Ross on the end, I know I have a lighting requirement. We sent them our our existing photometric plan, which will no longer be accurate. Do you live locally or no? I would say I grew up in Stony Brook. I live in Mignola now. You really should do a site visit. Yeah. It's different in the daytime. I can do that. Yeah. I think you're asking the opposite. Right. If you if you were to if we were to lower the heads now to make everything that's existing compliant, would that allow us to even though he has a requirement with this? What's that? Go on. Yeah. I'll talk with you. Yeah. Because we're going to create we're going to create a different issue. Right. We're going to cut the lights down. So we bring the lights down. We're going to be too dark. But if it's a timing issue, we get the lights cut down. Before the end of the day, you know, it's going to be too dark. There's maybe it's a good point. We'll run the photo metrics first. Our assumption is if they're 30 feet high now and we're yeah, and I have a whole lot of half that will have dark spots. We may maybe maybe in general might meet the requirement. We'll run the photo metrics and see if we're going to help. If you guys have creative ideas, let us know. But my my creative idea was just more of a phasing question. If we were to get those lights cut down. I don't say as soon as we can because we don't want it to be too dark too long while we then engineer the additional lighting that's required. Would we at least meet the requirement of the town? I don't think that I'm sorry. I don't I don't think the concern is engineering it. I think the concern is constructing it. Right. So I think I think the time that it's going to take to hear back from the other departments that we're waiting on my office will be putting together the lighting plan and the landscape plan and addressing these comments. And we'll make a decision. Another reason. There you go. And hopefully be back before the board for a final approval very shortly. OK. I think once we have that final approval, it's enacting it in the field and constructing it is what the challenge that TJ has. Yeah. From a budget standpoint. That's right. And making that happen in a timely fashion. I think. That sounds like the fastest way to get to John. You know, there used to be a lot of lead time with electrical equipment, but I think we're I think they're fairly. Yeah. I think these lights are fairly accessible. And I think that's a good thing. [transcription gap] Yeah. I just have one more ask on this project. If you look at this picture here, one of them's up there. If you look at the doors with the numbers that are the occupancies on there for each one, it's they're attached to the door and it really should be either fixed to the transom above it or on a solid wall. Because if a door is open and say the police had to respond to in a certain address, they may not see that address. So at least if it's if it's fixed attached, you know, right above the doorway or on a wall alongside the doorway, it's always out. It's always there. And doors have a tendency to break and get replaced. And then the numbers always don't go back up on them. There's a lot of stores throughout the town where there are no numbers. And like you say, it's a team. It's the old T.J. Max. Yeah. You have people going to the other T.J. Max without an address. Yeah. So with the new doors that you put in, if you can make that a point to. Yeah. Yeah. I don't see that being a problem. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. You're good? Good, guys? I'm good. So I just have for following for the project that we wanted to get some revised plans showing the obviously the planning board certification box to so that we can have them once it's good to go. We can get everything signed off. And then to another. Another one is to amend the plans to show the COVID-19 lighting and including the mounting heights and the fixtures just to get everything up to code as we just all talked about. And then as well, we were at the planning department was asking for a landscape plan of the parcel showing the landscaped areas and the calculations that include the existing and proposed planning locations with a planning schedule. Yeah. 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Yes, mr. DeNiro. Mr. Bear. Yes, and I vote yes to motion carries Well, I'll move resolution 2025 Well, 032 grant second and final Extension for the preliminary site plan of Long Island cauliflower Association second Moving in second. Mr. Zelnicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes, mr. DeNiro. Hi, mr. Bear. Yes, and I vote aye the motion carries I'll move resolution number 2025 033 dry spec out spec yo Manufacturers outlet Senate resolution granting a second and final six-month extension for a preliminary site plan approval Second move in second. Mr. Zelnicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes, mr. DeNiro. Hi, mr. Bear Yes, and I vote aye the motion carries. I just want to make You want to that we table the resolution number? 034 middle country road polar They're putting a roof canopy on the over the gas pumps there and their other gas station has On the canopy is a peaked roof and that whole corridor around 25 every building has a peaked roof on it and I would just think it would Match the rest of the buildings going along that that rural corridor there by having some type of a peaked roof So it matches the other existing Boulder State so head head head head head and all the other commercial buildings that are on 25? I would be opposed to tabling it, but I'm not opposed to adding it to the resolution. Okay. If Greg feels that's... So I did speak with Member Hogan about this, and we did look at the BOLA further east on Middle Country Road over by the charter school out there. It's not a full peaked roof. It's kind of like a hip roof on it. But, now, I mean, the structure is a lot closer to the roadway than the one at BOLA Edwards is. I'm not opposed to it. This has not been something that's been discussed with the applicant. So, I mean, we can put it as a condition. I don't know if you'd rather have a discussion with the applicant and inform them. No, I don't want to hold them up. We can include it, and if they're that much opposed to it, then we can, you know, rediscuss it. But John has a good idea, and I want to congratulate BOLA. Their projects, their trucks, everything. A number one. So we want everything that's going to be in Riverhead to be A number one. So thank you, John. So if that's the case, then I would recommend... Amend it? I don't know if we want to table. I don't know how we want to correct that. I wouldn't recommend tabling it. I would recommend amending condition number one. It says prior to the issuance of a building permit, the site plan shall be signed by the planning board chairman. Prior to the signature of the plans, the plan shall be revised as follows. I would recommend adding letter D. The plans shall be revised to show a hip roof on the canopy structures in a form approved by the planning board. That way, before you sign a plan, we'll just have a quick follow-up resolution. This way we get them going, but we still get a better looking project. Yep. Good. All right, so I'll read the resolution with the amendment. All right. 2025-034. 4129 Middle Country Road. BOLA Market. Canopy. Canopy and site improvement. Result of granting administrative site approval of the site plan application seeking to construct a canopy with amendments. Is that okay? Yes. All right, so moved. Second. Moved and second. Mr. Zelnicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. DeNiro. Aye. Mr. Baer. Yes. An aye vote, aye. The motion carries. I move resolution 2025-035. B.C. Cresta State. Slot number three. Resolution approving a grading and drainage plan for a single-fam residence proposed on lot number three. Second. Cresta State. Second. Moved and second. Mr. Zelnicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. DeNiro. Aye. Mr. Baer. Yes. An aye vote, aye. The motion carries.
Resolution number 2025-036. Cresta State. Slot number four. Resolution approving the grading and drainage plan for a single-fam residence proposed on lot number three. B.C. Cresta State. Slot number four. So moved. Second. Moved and second. Mr. Zelnicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. DeNiro. Aye. Mr. Baer. Yes. An aye vote, aye. The motion carries. Okay. Public comments on all matters? Any takers? Nothing important to say? Okay. Greg, we have a secret action? Yeah, I believe that's the E.C. Battery application. Just commenced the secret coordination. All right. Do we have to move that or is it? No. [transcription gap] No. No. No. Okay. Town board, yes. On meeting minutes. Second. Moved and second. Mr. Zelnicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. Baer. Aye. Second. Moved and second. Second. Moved by head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head just commence the secret coordination. All right. Do we have to move that? No. Okay. So I'll be putting the town as lead agency. Okay. Meeting minutes. I'll move the minutes of March 20th, 2025. Second. Moved and seconded, Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. Nero? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. I vote aye. Minutes carry. Any other business staff? No. Correspondents? Everything's good? Earth Day is next Friday, if anybody cares. What is it? Earth Day is next Friday. So we're not going to talk about AstroTurf. Our next meeting is Thursday, May 1st at 6 p.m. Motion to close? Motion to close. Second. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Have a nice weekend, everybody. Good job. Happy Easter. Thank you.