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Thank you. [transcription gap] Ripping the whole foundation out and putting in a new concrete foundation or doing pile driving Particularly because it's a sensitive area So they felt that this was the least intrusive way to reinforce the foundation And again, we we kind of knew that the CMU foundation wasn't going to be adequate So that's why we required the structural analysis and upon review by Vinnie he found that what they're proposing is adequate and You know isn't changing any other scope or part of the project. So all conditions that we required of them including Their construction restrictions they can only do construction in the park when it's closed So from October to March, I believe that was a condition of approval that stands So nothing else about the project scope is changing other than the foundation details So at this point just to memorialize it I wanted to bring it back to the board Have a resolution to reflect that that way everyone is on the up-and-up and the building apartment will have the most up-to-date plans Okay The only question I had either on the Assessables are they are they new cesspools? No, there's there existing and this was discussed at the median back in November You know, I think they're located sort of in between the house and their own they are being proposed to remain They're not increasing the bedroom count in the cottage again They're just sort of there! [transcription gap] there! [transcription gap] there! [transcription gap] reconfiguring and rebuilding so they wouldn't need Health Department approval anyway they are permitted to maintain that okay okay everybody's good all right stay there Heather we have item number two to Bluffs Drive minor subdivision so for the board this is a new application it was submitted a couple of years ago they just we need the map to get to a point where it was adequate enough to present to the board in conjunction with town law so this is for two Bluffs Drive minor subdivision Suffolk County tax up number six hundred dash 39-5-5 point 19 they're proposing to subdivide three point five three two acre vacant lot into three separate buildable locks the locks located with the president's 840 zoning use district and the proposed size of the lots um which are a little over an acre each more specifically lot one is proposed at one point two acres lot two is one point zero four acres lot three is one point two nine acres all comply with the minimum size requirements in the zoning use district so they do not need any variances it's a type two action pursuant to secret and just a little history on the property at one point and sort of going through the subdivision records because there is a major subdivision directly to the north of this parcel it is not on the filed map I know it has a tax cut number that's actually very similar to the Lots within that subdivision to the north but it was not filed with it's actually an out parcel so it can be subdivided at one point the prior owners were looking to build a house on it they've received Health Department so it's recognized by the Health Department the new owners are seeking to subdivide it again into three separate Lots so that's clear so so so three separate lots. They would all take access off of the existing cul-de-sac. You're saying there's a lot on this now? There's a house on this now? No, no, so the prior owners were looking to build a single house on this lot and then, I guess, abandoned those plans. But the fact of the matter is the health department gave approval for a sanitary system, so they do recognize the lot. So it's not part of the major subdivision to the north, although it's served, it will be served by the road and the cul-de-sac. So two of the lots will take access from a common driveway off of the cul-de-sac. They also show an access easement going across lot three to the property to the west, which is owned by Vander Wettering, I believe. And one thing that our consulting engineer, when I originally referred this to him, asked was, what's the purpose and the status of the proposed right of way? You know, they're claiming that it's for access to that lot, but they already have access off of a flag on Soundy Avenue. So, you know, that's sort of a question that I think remains outstanding. Other than that, some of the other notes that, and comments that Vinnie had, have been addressed as far as like lot width for each of the lots. They all conform with the minimum lot width. I did, upon Vinnie's recommendation, refer it over to Drew, because he is our stormwater manager. He's our management officer. And he actually just came back with comments the other day. They're not in my staff report, but I can provide a copy to each of you, and I'll just read them. He needs site details added to the plan, including leaching pool details and paving sections. I'm thinking specifically for that common driveway. That's something that we typically see. For example, in the 105 Pier Avenue minor subdivision, they had a typical pavement section and drainage for the common driveway on their map. And he also said, because the three parcels are being broken out from a larger plan, which totals over an acre in land disturbance, an erosion and sediment control plan must be completed and submitted to this office. So they won't need to do a full SWPPP, but Drew wants to see an erosion and sediment control plan just because of the size and their proposed area of disturbance. I did refer it over to the health department. They came back with comments. Those are in my staff report. I also forwarded it to the Suffolk County Planning Commission. They found it to be a matter for local determination. I also had referred it over to highway. Obviously any changes. It's a town road. So any changes within that cul-de-sac on Bluffs Drive are going to require review and approval. Probably road opening permits from the highway department. The Water District came back with comments specifically about the hydrant that's in the cul-de-sac. I don't know if you saw the picture. It's a little overgrown there, but it seems like based on where they want to put the driveway. So I think that's going to be a big part of this. So I think that's going to be a big part of this. so I think that's going to be a big part of this. [transcription gap] water district and the fire marshal. And I had referred this back to the fire marshals in 2023. Obviously, with the most recent set of plans, I re-referred it, seeing as, you know, Andrew Smith is now the chief fire marshal. And he did come back with comments as well. He said an additional hydrant may be required just due to the length of the driveway and where the proposed building lots are, the building envelopes. So that's something that the design professional is going to have to demonstrate whether or not they'll need one based on the distance requirements for R3 occupancy. I think it's 600 feet is the maximum distance from a hydrant. Do you know what those tanks are all about? That I'm not sure. And that's something that I brought up to the design professional. You know, I didn't get all the way back there when I did my site inspection. It was very overgrown. And naturally, I picked a day where it was sunny and then ended up downpouring. So I didn't get to go as far into the property as I wanted. But the aerial images are very interesting. And I think it's a great way to get a sense of what's going on. The aerial images are pretty clear. Like they've been there for quite some time. I don't know what's been stored in them, if there's anything stored in them. Can I connect with anything? Not that I can tell from the aerials, but that's something that I want them to address. You know, because if there was some sort of like oil or some sort of like pesticide, you know, we want to see maybe some soil sampling just to make sure. Or if they're empty, great, then just remove them from the site. But they've been there for quite some time. The pond is not on anybody's wetland map? No. It's funny. They showed it on their map. They showed it on their map. And they showed it on their map. And I was curious because it doesn't come up on our GIS as a town of Riverhead wetland or New York State DEC wetland. And I went back through some of the historical aerials on Suffolk GIS. When they built that house on the neighboring lot, they created the pond. So they did like a man-made, I don't know if it's a koi pond or, you know, what the purpose is. But it's not considered a freshwater wetland by the town or the New York State DEC. I just wanted to make a note of it because they did show it on the map. But it's not actually a contributing surface water. Other than that, you know, obviously the board needs time to look at the map. But at this point in time, the maps are ready to go to a public hearing, which is required. So we can take questions. Go what the proposed right-of-way is that for? Yeah, that's one of the questions that Vinnie had that again I said is still outstanding. They show it on the map. They say it's based on a survey, but they don't really specify as to what's for. They said that it was for access to the neighboring lot, but the neighboring lot has access via a flag driveway that goes all the way down to sound. So that's something that they can, the applicant's representatives, can address at the public hearing. Unfortunately, they couldn't be here today. They are aware that the public hearing date will be for August 21st. They will be here so any questions you have, or the public will have, can be addressed at that point. I'll just head forward so she's clear. is going stuff further with those tanks yeah we should try to find out where they came from on the property so that i think we should do those are big tanks yeah you know if there's any leakage i mean i think to protect ourselves we should find out what's in there you know i mean they look like oil to me but those are i suspect they might be propane tanks no no no they're not okay but that's a lingering question as well that's sort of imposed and you know the applicants representative did get a copy of my staff report so i'm hoping that they'll come back prepared with some information um in anticipation yeah well they've got a month yeah we need to determine where they pulled them out of because they didn't pull them right out of there look at the size of the trailer yeah compared to the tanks i mean the tank huge yeah i think that this lot was probably at one time part of the lot to the south i mean this was it went from soundy avenue all the way up to point point point point point point point point point point point point point point point point to the long island sound this was one big lot and then the major subdivision to the north um got filed and again this was carved out as an out parcel um so maybe it was part of the farm lot to the south it's really it's because i think that's all um not vander wettering but the nursery that's there when did you when did you make your site inspection 2023 yeah so i mean i could definitely go back up there but this application was made quite some time ago unfortunately there were issues with the map um where i didn't feel it was appropriate to bring it to the planning board because i don't remember i mean i remember i kind of remember this in a way you know kind of back there somewhere um i think those tanks are something we should point out about yeah i'll definitely relay that to the applicant and uh we'll have some answers for the board of public hearing just to get back to the road again will that road be a town road or it is so bluffs drive is already a town road including the cul-de-sac so the driveway will take access off of it but for the lot access it's a private driveway so a common driveway easement will have to be filed um as is typical of any subdivision utilizing a common drive okay so that'll be private okay thank you and heather it says uh 20 by 84 feet and that can also change it may go longer or whatever it says right on the map here 20 by 80 the common drive which goes into each property um but like you said each driveway will have their own drainage and then that will have its own drainage also yes so they're showing this as the common driveway and i'll note that there are 15 foot flags so that each lot has access pursuant to town law 280a that's one of the things that you know the map needs to be considered complete to come to the planning board because you can't grant access to something that's landlocked so they each have the appropriate front end section and then they'll be utilizing this improved section which again drew is asking for the paving details and the drainage details and then each lot you know as building code requires you to maintain your stormwater on site so residential lots buildings they'll have gutters dry wells whatever they need pursuant to new york state building code to maintain their water on site but the driveway specifically since it's on the subdivision map we have to make sure that it's not a paving so that's one of the things that we're going to be looking at and then we'll be looking at the details of that anybody else okay thank you heather uh let's go to item number three polish hall parking lot improvements with heather i don't think i'm alone on this one oh okay okay can we skip and come back yeah okay okay uh we're going to go to four peconic farms llc with greg bergman so head head head head head head !
subdivision application on Peconic Bay Boulevard and Jamesport. The planning board back in November of 2023 granted a conditional approval for a preliminary plat for a six lot major subdivision of a vacant existing 9.57 acre parcel located on the south side of Peconic Bay Boulevard located directly adjacent to the town of Riverhead boat ramp property. The map at that time required it was going to be a private road but because it was a major subdivision it was going to require infrastructure improvements including the roadway design, the drainage design, as well as the creation of an HOA to maintain. It was about I think it was like a 4.9 acre open space area on the back end. It was a clustered subdivision. I guess just the expense of going to the town of Riverhead and going through all the drainage and infrastructure work and creating the HOA. The applicant has elected to reduce the density of the map. Now proposing a four lot minor subdivision. All the lots comply with the dimension requirements of the RA-40 zoning district. You know it's pretty straightforward. The property is located. Significant portion of the property is located within a flood zone. So any development for residential dwellings within that flood zone. Would need to comply with FEMA regulations. But beyond that pretty straightforward. Each lot would have a private driveway off of Pecan Bay Boulevard. It would just take water service individually to each lot. They wouldn't have to do a water main, a lateral water main extension. So pretty straightforward. I do have a resolution on it to schedule a public hearing even though it is a reduced density plat. We did have a public hearing on the more intense development. I spoke with Eric Howard. I thought it was appropriate to just keep the record clean. We would do a public hearing on it and then we could move forward with an approval. Yeah I think it's a good business move. In situations where we've got something like this is it possible to have like a common driveway like between one and two and then three and four? I mean we could but these lots are about 180 roughly 180 to 185 feet wide. So I mean there would be more than enough room. Oh I know there's room. Yeah. Our standard standard guidance for standard. Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. owners of a driveway, like you do, we do, you know, obviously Bluffs Drive has a common driveway where they need to sort of consolidate that access. On a case like this where you've got almost, you know, probably 700 plus feet of frontage, I mean we could or we could not. I just, I don't think that it's necessarily required in this case. Okay. Yeah. That would not be the applicant's preference. I'm sure. So beyond that, have a resolution. It is a type two under SECRA. The one thing I would say is, you know, I mean being that this is a voluntary reduction, the lots probably should be precluded from further subdivision. You know, we've seen this consistently where, you know, like a minor on top of minor on top of minor. And then you, you know, then it's a case where you do end up with, you know, flag lots and common driveways that are sort of less than desirable. So that would just be my one recommendation to the Board as we move forward to, you know, not. Not that they're attempting to, but we don't want to see a future owner down there trying to subvert the major subdivision process. That's getting out of the way of doing a major. Yeah. Especially the first lot, Greg, which is, you know, it's three acres. Yeah. I mean, realistically, you know, lots, I mean, so the, the, we did approve a seven lot, you know, they, they submitted a yield map as we reviewed the initial submission. So the, as of right development yield on the property, I believe was seven lots. The six lot, the six lot subdivision map was done to remove the requirement for the land. So we're going to have to do a long out workforce housing act, but as of right seven, what's that? Was it nine? Yeah. All right. Sorry. It's been a while, but yeah, so that, so it was a reduced density even from the as of right. But yeah, I mean, in a case like this where you do have, you know, all the lots could be then further subdivided, I would just make that recommendation. That's fair. Yeah. But beyond that, pretty straightforward. We'll get the public hearing. We can get all the notices out, get the mailings done. Good gentlemen. Good luck. When is the public hearing? Uh, first meeting in August, August 7th. You said a lateral water main. Well, no, no, no. On the, on the other major subdivision, they would have had to bring one. Yeah. So this, this would just be individual tasks for each. Thank you, Martin. Okay. Let's go to number five. Sandy pond trade shops, managers, residents, and the clubhouse. Okay. 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Kimberly Judd, 737 Roto-Gaddon, the applicant. Earl Trollin, the applicant. Doug Adams and Jamaica, the applicant. 400 Wall Street. All right. So this is just a follow-up on the cyclone application for Sandy Pond. It's the application to construct a clubhouse, three trade shop buildings, and a manager's residence. The plans have been revised previously. The clubhouse on the old plans did not show any basement access, but the floor plans and the architectural plans indicated basement access. So the plans have been revised to provide access to the basement for storage. They relocated the sanitary system to meet the required separation. Beyond that, I mean, that was the only real major change we were looking for, so we do have a preliminary approval resolution on. They do require, will require the relocation of a drainage easement on the property that takes water from Roanoke Avenue and conveys it to one of the on-site ponds. That easement was formalized and recorded when we came, when they came in for the special permit for the mini golf course. The understanding was that when they came in for this, they were going to relocate that drainage easement. So preliminary approval on, pretty straightforward. There is no stormwater pollution prevention plan required for this project. The applicant did submit a SWIP waiver to the engineering department, and there is no need for a stormwater pollution prevention plan. So there's a couple of items that they need to address, submit some draft covenants, and then they'd be ready for a final. Okay. The only question I have, Greg, Earl, on the proposed, the blend mix, and. Why are you doing that instead of the blackout ground? We were just talking about that. I think they might want to do asphalt. We can do that. Yeah, only if it's snow removal. It would increase the drainage design a little bit. Yeah, yeah. We may do that, or a portion thereof. Okay. Something like that. I was just thinking originally that maybe you wanted to see more of the natural drainage, but we're not opposed to. It's probably not as functional for what it's been. Yeah. Yeah. I see on the print, though, there's a private driveway that's going to service the. The manager's office. Right. Manager's residence. Is that. Do you have the dimensions on that driveway, the width, or anything on it? Like how. Would it be wide enough to handle an emergency vehicle being it's so far off the road? I'm sorry? Would it be wide enough to handle an emergency vehicle being it's so far off the road? I think it's a residential driveway. I don't know that it needs to be. Yeah, it's just going to be 10 feet or 12 feet driveway. Yeah, I mean, it's probably about 12 feet. 12 feet wide, 13, 16 feet. 12 feet. We're not required to have like 20 foot clear and 14 foot high for a house like that. Okay. And these buildings are going to be sprinkled with water for fire? Are they going to be sprinkled? No. We're not proposed. Oh, they're not? Yeah, we're advised by our professionals that it doesn't require sprinkling. It's one story. And we're putting in. We're putting in a hydrant across the street on the west side. Yep, we're putting it. They're actually doing it on the west. They're bringing a hydrant to the west side of the road. We're bringing it right across the street right to our property, a new hydrant as well. Right. But isn't there one across the street? Why would you? There is one. There's two. There's two across the street. I don't know why we're doing that. So it was a request from the fire marshal. The reason being, if there was any type of fire event there, if they were to access the hydrant across the street, they would basically have to lay a hose across Roanoke Avenue. Shut that down. Shut it down. [transcription gap] Put a hydrant on the west side of the road to not have to shut down Roanoke Avenue in the event of an emergency. But wouldn't you have to do that in the case of any fire if the hydrant is across the street? It just... It's in case the water feature burns down. Exactly. I think that Mr. Stark may still pursue maybe not doing that hydrant, but... I mean, it is right across the street. Yeah. There's two. There's two. There's one in front of the proposed clubhouse across the street, and there's one right in front of where the trade shops are going across the street. Yeah. And if there's a fire department... Yeah. And if there's a fire department... If a fire truck were to access the hydrant on our side of the street, they're shutting Roanoke down Avenue anyway. Yeah. Of course. It's getting shut down if there's a fire. Or the use of any hydrant. But, you know, if I think if push comes to shove, you know, the fire department, you know, the fire marshal would have... I think Brian would do it. I think he's just trying to look at costs and stuff. Yeah. Really. The realistic reality of the need for it. But it's on there for now. Yeah. Okay. There's one on the east side. On the... On the... On the plan, Doug. For the sanitary. Is that correct? That it's all going to that... Yeah. The existing system that's... Existing system. That was put in as part of the subdivision process for this is... The size of it is conducive to handle the flow out of the trade shops. The flow is very low for the trade shops. There's just... Okay. You know, some bathrooms in there for the... The owners... But the occupancy is super low. And it's... It's... We're expecting health department approval actually any day on it. And then there's a new IA system going in for the clubhouse. Yeah. For the clubhouse. Yeah. And where's the water supply? Where's the water supply line? I couldn't... I couldn't make it out. Yeah, there's two. There's an existing one right at the driveway to the... Just don't make a... The driveway entrance. And there's going to be another one right next to the south fence of the mini golf. Straight into the clubhouse. Okay. I believe.
I can show you on this map if you want. We've got one here coming into the clubhouse. That's proposed. And the existing one is right here, right by the driveway. RPC installed already. Yeah. Already. I was looking at the way the water main goes around the trade shop. Okay. And it's very close to the other water main. Yeah. It's in that... I don't know. It's in that... The southern portion of the property. The southern boundary. It should be on this one. The trade show. And you've got a water service line going to the back. Let's put this water service in. That's right. It's maybe 20 feet from the service for the... The water service for the residential. But I guess you can't make... You can't... Okay. So, I'm sorry. There is another water service specifically for the residential. It's going on the south. Yeah. Right. It's just a mini tap. Yeah. But you... The existing water main goes around what would be and through the drainage for the trade shops. That's going to be removed. Well, that's going to be removed. Yeah. We're going to be coming in front of the trade shops. Right. Look on the map there. Right across the front. Yeah. And then it curves up. Goes up. We're a one-inch water service. Yeah. So, it comes up here. Goes around. And I guess you're coming in behind the... Right. Behind the trade shop. This trade shop. Right. So, I can feed that. Back building. But, yeah. This... Yeah. So, all I'm saying is these two water services are just 10 to 20 feet apart. Why can't you just hook them up and just forget about one of the water services? That water service for the proposed... No. This water service is across the parking lot from the clubhouse. Go back to the first show. So... So, we have... We have... Oh, you mean for the residential? Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. Yeah. ! Oh, you mean for the residents? yeah the residents and it is like a 10 10 20 feet between them so why not just like we would be allowed to do that because this is all commercial considering considering it's all commercial so we could do that well with the one he's gonna get one separate meter on it anyway because the whole purpose of the managed residents to get a manager in there take care of the place and anything water prop it's gonna be gratis what's that he's good he could he could just take take off that other yeah yeah and get rid of that whole service sure I don't see why we I don't see why we couldn't do that I think we might have done it that way originally because he thought maybe the managed residents would come in before the trade shops and then we needed a sort of residential three quarter it's gonna have one bill for the whole yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so she's planning doing so same time practically right at this point so yeah yeah yeah we'll just do this do you guys anything else gentlemen she's stuck around we gotta vote later so back to full full truck because yeah okay yes all right we're gonna go back to item number 3 polish full parking lot improvement with Heather.
Hi. Hi. And if everybody could just state their names for the record. Kimberly Judd, 737 Lowndes Avenue for the applicant. Tom Nijen, 1131 Ostrander, Riverhead Polish Hall President. Jim Matuszki, 505 Lincoln Street Opportunity Zone applicant. Alright, so this is a site plan application for the Polish Hall located at 214 Marcy Avenue in Riverhead. We're particularly identified as Suffolk County Taxment number 600-124-2-50.2 and we're particularly identified as Suffolk County Taxment number 600-124-2-50.2 So the scope of work on this application is limited to the southern parking lot. I mean, it's improved but not striped. Lacking drainage could definitely use some help. And then they're going to propose some additional stalls proximate to Sweezy Avenue. They are not touching the northern parking lot and there are no other changes on site with regard to the existing building. The existing accesses on Marcy Avenue will remain. They are proposing to consolidate and clean up a curb cut on Sweezy Avenue. I spoke with the highway superintendent the other day and he said obviously they would be subject to a road opening permit. He would like to see a crosswalk put in on Sweezy, given the fact that the purpose of the improvements at Polish Hall, you know, while the Polish Hall could undertake the improvements themselves, this would certainly be doable. But the 505 Lincoln Street site plan, which this board discussed this last April, it's an intriguing site. It's directly diagonally across from the Polish Hall site on Lincoln Street. It's that triangular shaped piece and has existed in its configuration for years with really no parking available on site. When we discussed the 505 Lincoln Street site plan application last year, at that point in time, the applicant was able to provide an accessible stall, which is required on the site, but they have no room for the required parking. So they were originally proposing an off-site parking agreement at 817 Pulaski Street, either by traversing through the Polish Hall parking lot, which, you know, without an agreement would be unlikely. And then when we scaled out exactly how far it would be if someone were to walk along Sweezy to Pulaski to Marcy to get to 817 Pulaski, I think it was like an inevitable. I didn't have an example of an example of an You know, it would need zoning board approval, and this board was not supportive of that. So upon revisiting options, the owner of 505 Lincoln Street and the Polish Hole, you know, over the course of a few months, over a year actually, came to an agreement where 505 Lincoln Street would be able to utilize just a portion of this parking for their own site, which would still require ZB approval because it is a little bit more than 200 feet as required by code. And the Polish Hole is in a residential zone, even though it's clearly a commercial use, it's in a residential zone. So the zoning board will have to give permission to the 505 Lincoln Street parking agreement for that. But in plain terms of the Polish Hole parking lot and their improvements alone, it's an unlisted action pursuant to SECRA. And, you know, no environment. Environmental impacts are anticipated. So I would recommend that the board adopt a negative declaration and approve this administratively without the need for a public hearing. You know, it's a benefit to the Polish Hole in addition to, you know, obviously benefiting the applicant. But it'll bring much needed organization to the parking lot where, again, the parking lots existed, but without any sort of legitimate striped stalls. No drainage either. And no drainage. Yeah, they're proposing drainage. So it'll. Be a much needed, a much needed facelift for this southern parking lot. All the stalls, 10 by 20s. Yes. Yeah. So all the stalls are proposed at 10 by 20. They show a 24 foot wide dry mile. And I did refer this over to the fire marshal. He actually just got back to me today and had no comments. So from a firefighting perspective, you know, no comments from them. And then I referred it over to Drew. He did want some details. But there's no comment on the plan, including leaching pool details, the pavement section, and a couple of other things. So that the resolution that I have on is obviously subject to any revisions from engineering, from the fire marshal, from the highway superintendent. So we will require some plan revisions to reflect Drew's comments. You know, obviously before they undertake any site work, they'll need that road opening permit from the highway department. Fire marshal didn't have any comments. guess my point is is that this application on its own could proceed you know they could get an approval and then in the meantime 505 Lincoln Street I did provide them with a denial letter they can appeal to the zoning board to utilize this section of parking for their site plan understanding that that approval would be predicated on them continuing with their site plan the Polish hole parking improvements really could stand on their own even though they're inherently tied together because the applicant would be funding the improvements in the parking lot so the one thing I'd like to see how there is if people are going to be walking you know coming home from work parking their car they're walking to 505 to adequate lighting you know for the evening hours or early morning hours and people are walking from one building to the no so no lighting is proposed within the parking lot I don't know if that's something that was spoken to in the agreement that was no well even street lighting along the route there is street lighting there's plenty of street lighting there yeah we have a department a town department that deals with that so like if a bulb goes out you know the street lighting department would take care of that they would send someone out but you know when we come to the 505 Lincoln Street site plan my recommendation will be and I think this highway superintendent agree with me is to put a crosswalk here yes if that if the ZBA approves the off-site parking with a clear headlight so clear head lights so clear head lights so clear head lights clear head lights clear head lights clear head lights clear head lights clear head lights [transcription gap] wouldn't be a big ask in my opinion that's all I'm looking for Heather I'd a question on Marcy Avenue there are actually actually two curb cuts now are you going to reduce it to one they're not proposing any changes to the curb cuts on Marcy so the northern parking lot is going to remain I know there was two oh there were two here's two so this shows one okay because it still shows like one bigger one you're gonna make one one bigger one okay so you're just gonna remove this landscape tiny little islands there right all right that island is nothing yeah we have a lot of problems I see trucks pulling in and they can't they're running over the bushes so right and the curb cut on Sweezy there's one there already Heather like we talked about so they're actually there's two there's there's one that's closer to the south and there's like a dirt one up here yeah they're gonna get rid of they're gonna get rid of this and then just have one single improved curb cut on Sweezy so I'll make a more general statement any sort of work within the town right-of-ways will require review approval and appropriate permits through the highway department so there will be no parking lot lighting whatsoever I mean aside from the existing building lighting which you know I just want to make sure as Doc's got compliant I think I mentioned that he has the specs I have no objections when parking lights up I mean that you know I mean I don't know why it's not on the plan I can certainly ask Doug to do something with that you know because the parking lot should be lit I mean somebody's gonna walk there at night there's no reason why it's not bit but I'll I have yeah this is for what will be on pole so if we don't find the cut sheets that show the ones that are there now are compliant and we'll use the these are pictures of them on the storage facility these are also so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so Heather, one other thing when I walked the property, they have a kind of low wood wall about five feet away from the building on the south side. Are they going to replace that? Because that is kind of rotted. Where about is it? It's about five feet away from the wall. It's that little sump looking thing. Yeah, yeah. Chances are when we go to rip the parking lot, it's going to come out with it. Because it's a step down, I believe. It's a step down, but obviously we need grading to be away from the building too. But obviously when they start working, they're going to have to redo that. I saw some leaders that came down. Yeah, there's leaders that come up and over. Those are going to have to be channeled into the drywall. So that wall will have to be secured somehow, and those pipes are going to have to come through that and into the parking drainage for sure. We're not going to put all this drywall. We're going to have to put all this drywall in and then dump the gutter water into the parking lot. That would be crazy. I see you've got the three drainage areas marked out. Are you now going to regrade everything so that it flows that way? The grades there are actually pretty good. The thing that they're missing is all the drywall. So the grading is actually adequate, and it's pitched properly. Oh, yeah? Yeah. So you're going to pull the asphalt, pull the RCA, put in all the drainage, and then just put it all back. Okay. I mean, it looks like it would work. And what you're saying is it works now. It works now. Just dumping everything into the road. There's no road. Okay. All good, guys? Yeah. I think this is a great improvement. Yeah. I mean, it's a mutually beneficial action. Again, I think that by approving this administratively, we're going to have to re-do it. So I think that's a great improvement. Yeah. I think that's a great improvement. I think that's a great improvement. Yeah. I think that's a great improvement. Yeah. I think that's a great improvement. [transcription gap] I do have a clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear into that area so in in terms of my resolution if we could amend to add a fifth condition so under condition 6 see the plan revisions if we can add five dark sky compliant lighting so just to sort of generalize it you know if they're going to add it you just want to make sure it comprise with code other than that I mean I reckon they're not proposing any landscaping they're gonna topsoil and see the areas of the disturb as a plant person I recommend if they're able to you know throw some native shrubs in there that would be great not necessarily required but I think it would definitely spruce this area up and sort of screen it from the railroad as well other than that it's a pretty straightforward application that's another reason why we really have to do the parking lot lighting tool because we are having some problems with people from the railroad you know that yeah we need to kind of curtail that we've we did it at the storage and it's helping out a little bit but Tommy you all have problems there right always people sleeping with stairwells yeah there's people sleeping everywhere so really lighting is good lighting is good it helps it helps but now you know we had fencing and barbed wire and we put plants hedges to cover that to take away the look of the barbed wire which looks great but now we're getting bottles thrown the railroad tracks into the windows and and the and the rivet police won't do anything it's only the MTA police that could investigate and do that so we're gonna try to keep a parking lot safe maybe we can do something if Troy and helps or something we can put some kind of fencing up and kind of eliminate that traffic coming that way overall an improvement to the site and again good for both parties and you know hopefully 505 Lincoln Street is successful with the ZBA and then they'll come back to you with their site plan okay sounds good good good guess yes have a vote a little while for you welcome Jim did a great job with you know more so thanks for coming by and look at that I appreciate that really good item number six TJ OC real estate holdings Greg
so this is just a quick update on the TJ OC Calverton development it's a proposed major subdivision and site plan out in Calverton across the street from the vicinity of the attractive supply next to Jane our steakhouse back on June 5th the Planning Board adopted a resolution which deemed a draft environmental impact statement as inadequate for public review I provided a deeming detailed list of comments that needed to be addressed the applicant turned it around pretty quickly I mean it wasn't a major list but they did address all those items that were detailed in the requirements so to that end the revised D EIS meets the scope that we set forth back for their environmental review they've addressed those items so we have two resolutions on for this meeting one accepts the D EIS and authorizes the planning department distribute it to involved agencies and make it available for public review. We have a resolution on that. We'll schedule a joint public hearing. That public hearing will encompass both the site plan, the subdivision, as well as the DEIS. Combined hearings are actually something that's encouraged under SECRA, rather than have three separate hearings for a DEIS. Do you run them concurrently? So, yeah. Like close one, open one, close one? It would just be. Or do you close them all? It would just be. You would open. It would be a combined hearing. And, again, the purpose of it, obviously, you want to get comments on the draft environmental impact statement, but they're all comments on the overall development. So, I mean, it's somewhat difficult to separate the subdivision from the site plan, but it would just be one public hearing. Okay. So, if the citizens had valid points, we can still add them at that time? Well, yeah. So, the purpose of the draft environment. The document will be available for public review. Public can comment on the draft EIS. All of those comments would then be, you know, we would record them. Is there a time limit? On the. On comments coming back. So, yeah, we have. I can double check. There is a time frame. I mean, when you deal with SECRA, you are under specific time frames, which is why the resubmitted DEIS. We were under. We were under a time frame to, you know, review it. Yeah. Let me just double check. I don't want to get my. Yeah.
And Greg, the new DEIS has the building. But yes. Yes. I mean, it addressed. That was one of the comments that we identified as being deficient. So, it does have the. It does have the reoriented building that kind of oriented in a north to south direction. So, the draft EIS public comment period. Minimum 30 days. I mean, again, so this, you know, we will have a. We accept the document. The public hearing would be scheduled for the first meeting in September, which I believe is 70. September 4th. The hearing needs to take place 60 days after filing of the draft EIS, which we're within that. [transcription gap] so we'd have the public hearing and then the applicant would prepare the final eis okay on the have they given any alternatives so yeah the alternatives are in the in the draft environmental impact statement uh one of the alternatives was a reduced density plan that complies with uh article six you know sanitary density regulations uh one of the alternatives was essentially taking the proposed building and kind of rotating it 90 degrees so that the residential wings face north to south instead of having a you know residential wing right on middle country road uh so those were the alternatives that they looked at okay i'll look at them thank you for this copy yeah i mean we'll get i'll get ones you know like i have we i get it digitally i get it flash drives but before i had the applicant print off you know a ton of these they do need to make one revision which they've made it's basically essentially a typo but we can get physical copies if you like with all the appendices that show up so september 4th would be the public hearing yes let me just i will confirm that i believe it's september 4th the first meeting in september so yeah september 4th someone's gone someone's gone just like that anything else guys no i'm good good nothing okay thank you greg uh number seven seacrest estates villas at run oak with greg again what kind of changes we're making on our fence so this is just this was a proposed modification to the fencing um for the proposed recharge basin uh the fencing now is just really going to encompass the ponding area i had both vinnie gaudiello review the proposed fencing design as well as mike zaleski the highway superintendent as this road would be potentially dedicated to the town they were both fine with the amended fencing location um i wasn't sure if i even really needed a resolution but some material uh chain link fence there there are standard you know there's there's standard requirements that are detailed in our town of red road and drainage standards so it's a uh chain link fence uh just modifies the location again just to keep the record clear just a resolution to approve the modified fencing but vinnie and mike are both good with it greg when i walked it um there's no way just leaving a natural um you know recharge basin because there's a now if a roadway is going to be dedicated dedicated to the town it absolutely needs to be fenced okay because you have wetlands just to the west of that yeah just okay good yep very good kenny good okay um okay at this point in time we're going to talk about public comments on resolutions okay not seeing any takers let's go into resolutions uh resolution number one okay good resolution 71 sandy pond links trade shops managers restaurant clubhouse bringing the preliminary site approval so moved second moved in second mr zelnicki yes mr hogan yes mr nero hi mr bear yes and i vote aye the motion carries i'll move resolution number 72 accept the deis for site plan and subdivision for tjoc holdings second moved in second mr zelnicki yes mr hogan yes mr nero hi mr bear yes and i vote aye the motion carries i'll move resolution number 2025 73 tgos tjoc real estate holdings llc resolution to schedule a combined public hearing on the major subdivision application so moved second moved in second mr zelnicki yes mr hogan yes mr nero mr bear yes and i vote aye the motion carries resolution 2025 074 sea crest the state resolution approving a amended site amended fencing layout for a recharge basin at the site of the approved major subdivision so moved second moved in second mr zanicki yes mr hogan yes mr nero hi mr bear yes and i vote aye the motion carries I move resolution 2025 74 Seacrest Estates no next one well I know five do those four on mine okay okay five I'm formally known as villas at Roanoke approving and no no no next iceberg is Bauer is though oh sorry sorry all right see Cresta States I mean excuse me well whisper were residents 219 granting approval for the amended amendment to 2019 I'll second it yeah that's resolution 75 moved in second mr. Zanucki yes mr. Hogan yes listen in arrow mr. bear yes and I vote either motion carries six okay I'll move resolution number 76 you classifying is a type 2 action part of sequence and schedule a public hearing for two bluffs drive second move in second mr. Zanucki yes mr. Hogan yes listen an arrow mr. bear yes and I vote either motion carries I'll move resolution number 20 25 0 7 7 Polish wall parking lot improvements resolution granting admitted straighted site plan approval for the site plan application as amended so moved second moved in second as amended mrs. Zanucki yes mr. Hogan yes mr. Nannerow mr. bear yes no I vote either motion carries good luck 20 25 0 7 8 baconic farms LLC minor subdivision resolution to classify a 4-lot subdivision applicant application as a type 2 action pursuant to secret second moved in second mrs. Zanucki yes mr. Hogan yes mr. Nannerow hi mr. bear yes and I vote aye so moved in second mrs. Zanucki yes mr. Hogan yes mr. Nannerow aye mr. bear yes and I vote aye yes mr. Nero mr. bear yes and I vote either motion carries I'm over that resolution number 20 250 79 summer wind farms LLC major subdivision resolution to retain okay okay ma as traffic consultant for the traffic engineering assessment so moved second moved in second mr. Zunicki yes mr. Hogan yes mr. Nero I mr. bear yes and I vote yes to motion carries okay yes sir did we do to number 77 yes yes yes we put the foot because we amended the Polish yep thank you okay public we finished that right yes 79 someone okay public comments on all matters not seeing any hands we have no minutes of the meeting as of yet Greg no secret actions sir other business correspondence staff everybody's good all right our next meeting will be Thursday August 7th at 6 p.m. we have a motion to close the meeting so move move this second all in favor all right all opposed motion carries have a great weekend everybody clear head head head [transcription gap] head head head head head head [transcription gap]