July 17, 2025 — Planning Board

Planning Board Meeting

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4:31Ripping the whole foundation out and putting in a new concrete foundation or doing pile driving
4:37Particularly because it's a sensitive area
4:39So they felt that this was the least intrusive way to reinforce the foundation
4:44And again, we we kind of knew that the CMU foundation wasn't going to be adequate
4:50So that's why we required the structural analysis and upon review by Vinnie
4:54he found that what they're proposing is adequate and
4:57You know isn't changing any other scope or part of the project. So all conditions that we required of them including
5:05Their construction restrictions they can only do construction in the park when it's closed
5:11So from October to March, I believe that was a condition of approval that stands
5:16So nothing else about the project scope is changing other than the foundation details
5:23So at this point just to memorialize it I wanted to bring it back to the board
5:27Have a resolution to reflect that that way everyone is on the up-and-up and the building apartment will have the most up-to-date plans
5:34Okay
5:38The only question I had either on the
5:42Assessables are they are they new cesspools? No, there's there existing and this was discussed at the median back in November
5:48You know, I think they're located sort of in between the house and their own they are being proposed to remain
5:54They're not increasing the bedroom count in the cottage again
5:56They're just sort of
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5:57reconfiguring and rebuilding so they wouldn't need Health Department approval
6:01anyway they are permitted to maintain that okay okay everybody's good all
6:08right stay there Heather we have item number two to Bluffs Drive minor
6:12subdivision so for the board this is a new application it was submitted a
6:21couple of years ago they just we need the map to get to a point where it was
6:26adequate enough to present to the board in conjunction with town law so this is
6:31for two Bluffs Drive minor subdivision Suffolk County tax up number six hundred
6:35dash 39-5-5 point 19 they're proposing to subdivide three point five three two
6:44acre vacant lot into three separate buildable locks the locks located with
6:50the president's 840 zoning use district and the proposed size of the lots
6:56which are a little over an acre each more specifically lot one is proposed at
7:01one point two acres lot two is one point zero four acres lot three is one point
7:06two nine acres all comply with the minimum size requirements in the zoning
7:10use district so they do not need any variances it's a type two action
7:16pursuant to secret and just a little history on the property at one point and
7:23sort of going through the subdivision
7:26records because there is a major subdivision directly to the north of
7:30this parcel it is not on the filed map I know it has a tax cut number that's
7:35actually very similar to the Lots within that subdivision to the north but it was
7:40not filed with it's actually an out parcel so it can be subdivided at one
7:46point the prior owners were looking to build a house on it they've received
7:49Health Department so it's recognized by the Health Department the new owners are
7:53seeking to subdivide it again into three separate Lots so that's clear so so so
7:55three separate lots.
7:57They would all take access off of the existing cul-de-sac.
8:00You're saying there's a lot on this now?
8:03There's a house on this now?
8:04No, no, so the prior owners were looking to build
8:06a single house on this lot and then, I guess,
8:08abandoned those plans.
8:10But the fact of the matter is the health department
8:12gave approval for a sanitary system,
8:14so they do recognize the lot.
8:15So it's not part of the major subdivision to the north,
8:18although it's served, it will be served by the road
8:21and the cul-de-sac.
8:23So two of the lots will take access from a common driveway
8:30off of the cul-de-sac.
8:33They also show an access easement going across lot three
8:39to the property to the west, which is owned
8:43by Vander Wettering, I believe.
8:45And one thing that our consulting engineer,
8:47when I originally referred this to him, asked was,
8:50what's the purpose and the status of the proposed
8:53right of way?
8:54You know, they're claiming that it's for access to that lot,
8:57but they already have access off of a flag on Soundy Avenue.
9:00So, you know, that's sort of a question that I think
9:03remains outstanding.
9:06Other than that, some of the other notes that,
9:08and comments that Vinnie had, have been addressed
9:12as far as like lot width for each of the lots.
9:14They all conform with the minimum lot width.
9:16I did, upon Vinnie's recommendation, refer it over to Drew,
9:21because he is our stormwater manager.
9:22He's our management officer.
9:24And he actually just came back with comments the other day.
9:28They're not in my staff report,
9:29but I can provide a copy to each of you,
9:32and I'll just read them.
9:34He needs site details added to the plan,
9:36including leaching pool details and paving sections.
9:38I'm thinking specifically for that common driveway.
9:41That's something that we typically see.
9:43For example, in the 105 Pier Avenue minor subdivision,
9:46they had a typical pavement section and drainage
9:49for the common driveway on their map.
9:51And he also said,
9:52because the three parcels are being broken out
9:54from a larger plan,
9:55which totals over an acre in land disturbance,
9:57an erosion and sediment control plan must be completed
10:00and submitted to this office.
10:02So they won't need to do a full SWPPP,
10:03but Drew wants to see an erosion and sediment control plan
10:06just because of the size
10:08and their proposed area of disturbance.
10:12I did refer it over to the health department.
10:14They came back with comments.
10:16Those are in my staff report.
10:18I also forwarded it to the Suffolk County Planning Commission.
10:22They found it to be a matter for local determination.
10:25I also had referred it over to highway.
10:28Obviously any changes.
10:30It's a town road.
10:30So any changes within that cul-de-sac on Bluffs Drive
10:33are going to require review and approval.
10:35Probably road opening permits from the highway department.
10:39The Water District came back with comments
10:42specifically about the hydrant that's in the cul-de-sac.
10:46I don't know if you saw the picture.
10:48It's a little overgrown there,
10:49but it seems like based on where they want to put the driveway.
10:50So I think that's going to be a big part of this.
10:51So I think that's going to be a big part of this.
10:52so I think that's going to be a big part of this.
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11:00water district and the fire marshal. And I had referred this back to the fire marshals in 2023.
11:07Obviously, with the most recent set of plans, I re-referred it, seeing as, you know, Andrew Smith
11:12is now the chief fire marshal. And he did come back with comments as well. He said an additional
11:17hydrant may be required just due to the length of the driveway and where the proposed building
11:21lots are, the building envelopes. So that's something that the design professional is going
11:26to have to demonstrate whether or not they'll need one based on the distance requirements for
11:30R3 occupancy. I think it's 600 feet is the maximum distance from a hydrant. Do you know
11:36what those tanks are all about? That I'm not sure. And that's something that I brought up to
11:41the design professional. You know, I didn't get all the way back there when I did my site
11:46inspection. It was very overgrown. And naturally, I picked a day where it was sunny and then ended
11:51up downpouring. So I didn't get to go as far into the property as I wanted. But the aerial
11:55images are very interesting. And I think it's a great way to get a sense of what's going on.
11:56The aerial images are pretty clear. Like they've been there for quite some time. I don't know what's
11:59been stored in them, if there's anything stored in them. Can I connect with anything? Not that I can
12:05tell from the aerials, but that's something that I want them to address. You know, because if there
12:09was some sort of like oil or some sort of like pesticide, you know, we want to see maybe some
12:13soil sampling just to make sure. Or if they're empty, great, then just remove them from the site.
12:18But they've been there for quite some time. The pond is not on anybody's wetland map?
12:23No. It's funny. They showed it on their map. They showed it on their map. And they showed it on their
12:26map. And I was curious because it doesn't come up on our GIS as a town of Riverhead wetland or New
12:33York State DEC wetland. And I went back through some of the historical aerials on Suffolk GIS.
12:38When they built that house on the neighboring lot, they created the pond. So they did like a man-made,
12:44I don't know if it's a koi pond or, you know, what the purpose is. But it's not considered a
12:49freshwater wetland by the town or the New York State DEC. I just wanted to make a note of it
12:54because they did show it on the map.
12:56But it's not actually a contributing surface water.
13:00Other than that, you know, obviously the board needs time to look at the map.
13:04But at this point in time, the maps are ready to go to a public hearing, which is required.
13:09So we can take questions.
13:12Go what the proposed right-of-way is that for?
13:16Yeah, that's one of the questions that Vinnie had that again I said is still outstanding.
13:21They show it on the map. They say it's based on a survey, but they don't really specify
13:26as to what's for.
13:27They said that it was for access to the neighboring lot, but the neighboring lot has access via
13:32a flag driveway that goes all the way down to sound.
13:34So that's something that they can, the applicant's representatives, can address at the public hearing.
13:40Unfortunately, they couldn't be here today.
13:43They are aware that the public hearing date will be for August 21st.
13:47They will be here so any questions you have, or the public will have, can be addressed
13:53at that point.
13:54I'll just head forward so she's clear.
13:55is going stuff further with those tanks yeah we should try to find out where they came from on
14:00the property so that i think we should do those are big tanks yeah you know if there's any leakage
14:07i mean i think to protect ourselves we should find out what's in there you know i mean they
14:13look like oil to me but those are i suspect they might be propane tanks no no no they're not okay
14:20but that's a lingering question as well that's sort of imposed and you know the applicants
14:25representative did get a copy of my staff report so i'm hoping that they'll come back prepared with
14:29some information um in anticipation yeah well they've got a month yeah we need to determine
14:35where they pulled them out of because they didn't pull them right out of there look at the size of
14:38the trailer yeah compared to the tanks i mean the tank huge yeah i think that this lot was probably
14:44at one time part of the lot to the south i mean this was it went from soundy avenue all the way
14:49up to point point point point point point point point point point point point point point point point
14:49to the long island sound this was one big lot and then the major subdivision to the north um got
14:55filed and again this was carved out as an out parcel um so maybe it was part of the farm lot
15:01to the south it's really it's because i think that's all um not vander wettering but the
15:07nursery that's there when did you when did you make your site inspection 2023 yeah so i mean i
15:13could definitely go back up there but this application was made quite some time ago
15:18unfortunately there were issues with the map um where i didn't feel it was appropriate to bring it
15:23to the planning board because i don't remember i mean i remember i kind of remember this in a way
15:28you know kind of back there somewhere um i think those tanks are something we should point out
15:34about yeah i'll definitely relay that to the applicant and uh we'll have some answers for
15:38the board of public hearing just to get back to the road again will that road be a town road or
15:43it is so bluffs drive is already a town road including the cul-de-sac
15:48so the driveway will take access off of it but for the lot access it's a private driveway so a
15:54common driveway easement will have to be filed um as is typical of any subdivision utilizing a
15:59common drive okay so that'll be private okay thank you and heather it says uh 20 by 84 feet and that
16:07can also change it may go longer or whatever it says right on the map here 20 by 80 the common
16:13drive which goes into each property um
16:19but like you said each driveway will have their own drainage and then that will have its own
16:25drainage also yes so they're showing this as the common driveway and i'll note that there are 15
16:31foot flags so that each lot has access pursuant to town law 280a that's one of the things that you
16:38know the map needs to be considered complete to come to the planning board because you can't grant
16:44access to something that's landlocked so they each have the appropriate front end
16:48section and then they'll be utilizing this improved section which again drew is asking for
16:53the paving details and the drainage details and then each lot you know as
17:00building code requires you to maintain your stormwater on site so residential lots buildings
17:07they'll have gutters dry wells whatever they need pursuant to new york state building code
17:13to maintain their water on site but the driveway specifically since it's on the subdivision map we
17:18have to make sure that it's not a paving so that's one of the things that we're going to be
17:21looking at and then we'll be looking at the details of that anybody else okay thank you heather uh
17:28let's go to item number three polish hall parking lot improvements with heather
17:33i don't think i'm alone on this one oh okay
17:38okay can we skip and come back yeah okay okay uh we're going to go to four peconic farms llc with
17:45greg bergman
17:48so head head head
17:49head
18:05head
18:06head
18:18subdivision application on Peconic Bay Boulevard and Jamesport. The planning
18:25board back in November of 2023 granted a conditional approval for a preliminary
18:31plat for a six lot major subdivision of a vacant existing 9.57 acre parcel
18:37located on the south side of Peconic Bay Boulevard located directly adjacent to
18:42the town of Riverhead boat ramp property. The map at that time required it was going to be a
18:49private road but because it was a major subdivision it was going to require infrastructure
18:55improvements including the roadway design, the drainage design, as well as the creation of an
19:01HOA to maintain. It was about I think it was like a 4.9 acre open space area on the back end. It
19:07was a clustered subdivision. I guess just the expense of going to the town of Riverhead
19:12and going through all the drainage and infrastructure work and creating the HOA. The applicant has
19:16elected to reduce the density of the map. Now proposing a four lot minor subdivision.
19:24All the lots comply with the dimension requirements of the RA-40 zoning district.
19:29You know it's pretty straightforward. The property is located. Significant portion of the
19:35property is located within a flood zone. So any development for residential dwellings
19:41within that flood zone.
19:42Would need to comply with FEMA regulations. But beyond that pretty straightforward. Each lot would have a private
19:48driveway off of Pecan Bay Boulevard. It would just take water service individually to each lot. They wouldn't have to do
19:56a water main, a lateral water main extension. So pretty straightforward. I do have a resolution on it to schedule a public
20:04hearing even though it is a reduced density plat. We did have a public hearing on the more intense development. I spoke with
20:11Eric Howard. I thought it was appropriate to just keep the record clean. We would do a public hearing on it and then we could move forward with an approval.
20:18Yeah I think it's a good business move.
20:20In situations where we've got something like this is it possible to have like a common driveway like between one and two and then three and four?
20:29I mean we could but these lots are about 180 roughly 180 to 185 feet wide. So I mean there would be more than enough room.
20:38Oh I know there's room. Yeah.
20:39Our standard standard guidance for standard.
20:40Yeah.
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20:41Yeah.
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20:43Yeah.
20:59owners of a driveway, like you do, we do, you know, obviously Bluffs Drive has a common
21:04driveway where they need to sort of consolidate that access.
21:07On a case like this where you've got almost, you know, probably 700 plus feet of frontage,
21:14I mean we could or we could not.
21:15I just, I don't think that it's necessarily required in this case.
21:19Okay.
21:20Yeah.
21:21That would not be the applicant's preference.
21:25I'm sure.
21:27So beyond that, have a resolution.
21:30It is a type two under SECRA.
21:32The one thing I would say is, you know, I mean being that this is a voluntary reduction,
21:38the lots probably should be precluded from further subdivision.
21:42You know, we've seen this consistently where, you know, like a minor on top of minor on
21:45top of minor.
21:46And then you, you know, then it's a case where you do end up with, you know, flag lots and
21:50common driveways that are sort of less than desirable.
21:53So that would just be my one recommendation to the Board as we move forward to, you know,
21:57not.
21:57Not that they're attempting to, but we don't want to see a future owner down there trying
22:01to subvert the major subdivision process.
22:03That's getting out of the way of doing a major.
22:05Yeah.
22:06Especially the first lot, Greg, which is, you know, it's three acres.
22:08Yeah.
22:09I mean, realistically, you know, lots, I mean, so the, the, we did approve a seven lot, you
22:14know, they, they submitted a yield map as we reviewed the initial submission.
22:18So the, as of right development yield on the property, I believe was seven lots.
22:23The six lot, the six lot subdivision map was done to remove the requirement for the land.
22:27So we're going to have to do a long out workforce housing act, but as of right seven, what's
22:30that?
22:31Was it nine?
22:32Yeah.
22:33All right.
22:34Sorry.
22:35It's been a while, but yeah, so that, so it was a reduced density even from the as of
22:42right.
22:43But yeah, I mean, in a case like this where you do have, you know, all the lots could
22:46be then further subdivided, I would just make that recommendation.
22:49That's fair.
22:50Yeah.
22:51But beyond that, pretty straightforward.
22:53We'll get the public hearing.
22:55We can get all the notices out, get the mailings done.
22:57Good gentlemen.
22:58Good luck.
22:59When is the public hearing?
23:00Uh, first meeting in August, August 7th.
23:01You said a lateral water main.
23:02Well, no, no, no.
23:03On the, on the other major subdivision, they would have had to bring one.
23:04Yeah.
23:05So this, this would just be individual tasks for each.
23:06Thank you, Martin.
23:07Okay.
23:08Let's go to number five.
23:09Sandy pond trade shops, managers, residents, and the clubhouse.
23:10Okay.
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23:42Everyone can just state their names for the record.
23:51Kimberly Judd, 737 Roto-Gaddon, the applicant.
23:55Earl Trollin, the applicant.
23:58Doug Adams and Jamaica, the applicant.
24:00400 Wall Street.
24:01All right.
24:03So this is just a follow-up on the cyclone application for Sandy Pond.
24:08It's the application to construct a clubhouse,
24:10three trade shop buildings, and a manager's residence.
24:15The plans have been revised previously.
24:18The clubhouse on the old plans did not show any basement access,
24:23but the floor plans and the architectural plans indicated basement access.
24:27So the plans have been revised to provide access to the basement for storage.
24:31They relocated the sanitary system to meet the required separation.
24:37Beyond that, I mean, that was the only real major change we were looking for,
24:40so we do have a preliminary approval resolution on.
24:45They do require, will require the relocation of a drainage easement on the property
24:50that takes water from Roanoke Avenue and conveys it to one of the on-site ponds.
24:55That easement was formalized and recorded when we came,
24:59when they came in for the special permit for the mini golf course.
25:03The understanding was that when they came in for this,
25:05they were going to relocate that drainage easement.
25:08So preliminary approval on, pretty straightforward.
25:10There is no stormwater pollution prevention plan required for this project.
25:14The applicant did submit a SWIP waiver to the engineering department,
25:21and there is no need for a stormwater pollution prevention plan.
25:24So there's a couple of items that they need to address, submit some draft covenants,
25:28and then they'd be ready for a final.
25:32Okay.
25:33The only question I have, Greg, Earl, on the proposed, the blend mix,
25:40and.
25:40Why are you doing that instead of the blackout ground?
25:44We were just talking about that.
25:45I think they might want to do asphalt.
25:48We can do that.
25:48Yeah, only if it's snow removal.
25:49It would increase the drainage design a little bit.
25:51Yeah, yeah.
25:51We may do that, or a portion thereof.
25:55Okay.
25:55Something like that.
25:57I was just thinking originally that maybe you wanted to see more of the natural drainage,
26:02but we're not opposed to.
26:06It's probably not as functional for what it's been.
26:07Yeah.
26:07Yeah.
26:09I see on the print, though,
26:10there's a private driveway that's going to service the.
26:13The manager's office.
26:15Right.
26:15Manager's residence.
26:16Is that.
26:17Do you have the dimensions on that driveway, the width, or anything on it?
26:21Like how.
26:24Would it be wide enough to handle an emergency vehicle being it's so far off the road?
26:29I'm sorry?
26:29Would it be wide enough to handle an emergency vehicle being it's so far off the road?
26:34I think it's a residential driveway.
26:36I don't know that it needs to be.
26:38Yeah, it's just going to be 10 feet or 12 feet driveway.
26:40Yeah, I mean, it's probably about 12 feet.
26:4312 feet wide, 13, 16 feet.
26:4412 feet.
26:45We're not required to have like 20 foot clear and 14 foot high for a house like that.
26:52Okay.
26:53And these buildings are going to be sprinkled with water for fire?
26:58Are they going to be sprinkled?
27:00We're not proposed.
27:01Oh, they're not?
27:02Yeah, we're advised by our professionals that it doesn't require sprinkling.
27:09It's one story.
27:10And we're putting in.
27:10We're putting in a hydrant across the street on the west side.
27:13Yep, we're putting it.
27:14They're actually doing it on the west.
27:15They're bringing a hydrant to the west side of the road.
27:17We're bringing it right across the street right to our property, a new hydrant as well.
27:20Right.
27:20But isn't there one across the street?
27:22Why would you?
27:22There is one.
27:24There's two.
27:24There's two across the street.
27:25I don't know why we're doing that.
27:26So it was a request from the fire marshal.
27:27The reason being, if there was any type of fire event there, if they were to access the
27:34hydrant across the street, they would basically have to lay a hose across Roanoke Avenue.
27:38Shut that down.
27:38Shut it down.
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27:40Put a hydrant on the west side of the road to not have to shut down Roanoke Avenue in
27:45the event of an emergency.
27:47But wouldn't you have to do that in the case of any fire if the hydrant is across the street?
27:51It just...
27:52It's in case the water feature burns down.
27:54Exactly.
27:55I think that Mr. Stark may still pursue maybe not doing that hydrant, but...
28:01I mean, it is right across the street.
28:02Yeah.
28:03There's two.
28:04There's two.
28:04There's one in front of the proposed clubhouse across the street, and there's one right in
28:07front of where the trade shops are going across the street.
28:09Yeah.
28:10And if there's a fire department...
28:09Yeah.
28:09And if there's a fire department...
28:10If a fire truck were to access the hydrant on our side of the street, they're shutting
28:16Roanoke down Avenue anyway.
28:17Yeah.
28:18Of course.
28:18It's getting shut down if there's a fire.
28:20Or the use of any hydrant.
28:22But, you know, if I think if push comes to shove, you know, the fire department, you
28:28know, the fire marshal would have...
28:30I think Brian would do it.
28:31I think he's just trying to look at costs and stuff.
28:32Yeah.
28:33Really.
28:33The realistic reality of the need for it.
28:37But it's on there for now.
28:38Yeah.
28:39Okay.
28:39There's one on the east side.
28:40On the...
28:41On the...
28:43On the plan, Doug.
28:45For the sanitary.
28:47Is that correct?
28:48That it's all going to that...
28:51Yeah.
28:52The existing system that's...
28:54Existing system.
28:54That was put in as part of the subdivision process for this is...
29:00The size of it is conducive to handle the flow out of the trade shops.
29:05The flow is very low for the trade shops.
29:07There's just...
29:08Okay.
29:08You know, some bathrooms in there for the...
29:10The owners...
29:11But the occupancy is super low.
29:13And it's...
29:14It's...
29:15We're expecting health department approval actually any day on it.
29:18And then there's a new IA system going in for the clubhouse.
29:20Yeah.
29:20For the clubhouse.
29:21Yeah.
29:22And where's the water supply?
29:25Where's the water supply line?
29:26I couldn't...
29:26I couldn't make it out.
29:27Yeah, there's two.
29:28There's an existing one right at the driveway to the...
29:31Just don't make a...
29:32The driveway entrance.
29:34And there's going to be another one right next to the south fence of the mini golf.
29:38Straight into the clubhouse.
29:40Okay.
29:40I believe.
29:44I can show you on this map if you want.
29:47We've got one here coming into the clubhouse.
29:49That's proposed.
29:51And the existing one is right here, right by the driveway.
29:54RPC installed already.
29:56Yeah.
29:56Already.
29:57I was looking at the way the water main goes around the trade shop.
30:05Okay.
30:05And it's very close to the other water main.
30:10Yeah.
30:11It's in that...
30:12I don't know.
30:12It's in that...
30:13The southern portion of the property.
30:14The southern boundary.
30:16It should be on this one.
30:16The trade show.
30:17And you've got a water service line going to the back.
30:21Let's put this water service in.
30:22That's right.
30:23It's maybe 20 feet from the service for the...
30:30The water service for the residential.
30:35But I guess you can't make...
30:37You can't...
30:37Okay.
30:37So, I'm sorry.
30:38There is another water service specifically for the residential.
30:40It's going on the south.
30:41Yeah.
30:41Right.
30:42It's just a mini tap.
30:43Yeah.
30:43But you...
30:43The existing water main goes around what would be and through the drainage for the trade
30:49shops.
30:50That's going to be removed.
30:51Well, that's going to be removed.
30:53Yeah.
30:53We're going to be coming in front of the trade shops.
30:55Right.
30:55Look on the map there.
30:56Right across the front.
30:59Yeah.
30:59And then it curves up.
31:01Goes up.
31:02We're a one-inch water service.
31:04Yeah.
31:04So, it comes up here.
31:05Goes around.
31:06And I guess you're coming in behind the...
31:08Right.
31:09Behind the trade shop.
31:09This trade shop.
31:10Right.
31:10So, I can feed that.
31:10Back building.
31:12But, yeah.
31:12This...
31:12Yeah.
31:13So, all I'm saying is these two water services are just 10 to 20 feet apart.
31:19Why can't you just hook them up and just forget about one of the water services?
31:22That water service for the proposed...
31:26This water service is across the parking lot from the clubhouse.
31:30Go back to the first show.
31:33So...
31:33So, we have...
31:39We have...
31:40Oh, you mean for the residential?
31:40Yeah.
31:33[transcription gap]
31:34Yeah.
31:39Yeah.
31:40Oh, you mean for the residents?
31:41yeah the residents and it is like a 10 10 20 feet between them so why not just
31:48like we would be allowed to do that because this is all commercial
31:51considering considering it's all commercial so we could do that well with
31:56the one he's gonna get one separate meter on it anyway because the whole
32:02purpose of the managed residents to get a manager in there take care of the
32:05place and anything water prop it's gonna be gratis what's that he's good he
32:10could he could just take take off that other yeah yeah and get rid of that
32:16whole service sure I don't see why we I don't see why we couldn't do that I
32:23think we might have done it that way originally because he thought maybe the
32:27managed residents would come in before the trade shops and then we needed a
32:29sort of residential three quarter it's gonna have one bill for the whole
32:35yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
32:35yeah so she's planning doing so same time practically right at this point so
32:41yeah yeah yeah we'll just do this do you guys anything else gentlemen
32:49she's stuck around we gotta vote later
32:55so back to full full truck because yeah okay
32:58yes all right we're gonna go back to item number 3 polish full parking lot
33:04improvement
33:05with Heather.
33:26And if everybody could just state their names for the record.
33:29Kimberly Judd, 737
33:31Lowndes Avenue for the applicant.
33:32Tom Nijen, 1131
33:36Ostrander, Riverhead Polish Hall
33:38President.
33:39Jim Matuszki, 505 Lincoln Street
33:42Opportunity Zone applicant.
33:46Alright, so this is a
33:48site plan application
33:49for the Polish Hall
33:52located at 214
33:54Marcy Avenue in Riverhead. We're particularly
33:56identified as Suffolk County Taxment
33:58number 600-124-2-50.2
34:02and we're particularly
34:02identified as Suffolk County Taxment
34:03number 600-124-2-50.2
34:04So the scope of work on this application
34:06is limited to the southern
34:08parking lot.
34:10I mean, it's improved
34:11but not striped. Lacking
34:13drainage could definitely
34:15use some
34:17help. And then they're going to
34:19propose some additional stalls
34:21proximate to Sweezy Avenue. They are
34:24not touching the northern parking lot
34:25and there are no other changes
34:28on site with regard to the
34:30existing building.
34:32existing accesses on Marcy
34:35Avenue will remain. They are
34:37proposing to consolidate and clean
34:39up a curb cut on Sweezy Avenue.
34:41I spoke with the highway superintendent
34:43the other day and he said
34:45obviously they would be subject to a
34:47road opening permit.
34:48He would like to see a crosswalk put in
34:50on Sweezy, given the
34:52fact that the purpose of
34:54the improvements at Polish Hall,
34:57you know, while the Polish
34:58Hall could
34:59undertake the improvements themselves,
35:02this would certainly
35:02be doable. But the 505
35:06Lincoln Street site plan, which this
35:08board discussed
35:10this last April,
35:12it's an intriguing
35:14site. It's directly
35:16diagonally across from the Polish Hall
35:18site on Lincoln Street. It's that triangular
35:20shaped piece and has
35:22existed in its configuration
35:24for years with really no
35:26parking available on site.
35:28When we discussed the 505 Lincoln
35:30Street site plan application last year,
35:32at that point in time, the
35:34applicant was able to provide
35:36an accessible stall, which is required
35:38on the site, but they have no
35:40room for the required parking.
35:42So they were originally proposing an off-site
35:44parking agreement at 817
35:46Pulaski Street,
35:47either by traversing through the Polish Hall
35:50parking lot, which, you know, without
35:52an agreement would be unlikely.
35:54And then when we scaled out exactly how far
35:56it would be if someone were to walk along Sweezy
35:58to Pulaski to Marcy to get to
36:00817 Pulaski, I think it was like an
36:02inevitable.
36:02I didn't have an example of an
36:03example of an
36:04You know, it would need zoning board approval, and this board was not supportive of that.
36:10So upon revisiting options, the owner of 505 Lincoln Street and the Polish Hole, you know, over the course of a few months, over a year actually,
36:21came to an agreement where 505 Lincoln Street would be able to utilize just a portion of this parking for their own site,
36:30which would still require ZB approval because it is a little bit more than 200 feet as required by code.
36:38And the Polish Hole is in a residential zone, even though it's clearly a commercial use, it's in a residential zone.
36:45So the zoning board will have to give permission to the 505 Lincoln Street parking agreement for that.
36:51But in plain terms of the Polish Hole parking lot and their improvements alone, it's an unlisted action pursuant to SECRA.
36:58And, you know, no environment.
37:00Environmental impacts are anticipated.
37:02So I would recommend that the board adopt a negative declaration and approve this administratively without the need for a public hearing.
37:10You know, it's a benefit to the Polish Hole in addition to, you know, obviously benefiting the applicant.
37:17But it'll bring much needed organization to the parking lot where, again, the parking lots existed, but without any sort of legitimate striped stalls.
37:27No drainage either.
37:28And no drainage.
37:29Yeah, they're proposing drainage.
37:30So it'll.
37:30Be a much needed, a much needed facelift for this southern parking lot.
37:37All the stalls, 10 by 20s.
37:39Yes.
37:39Yeah.
37:40So all the stalls are proposed at 10 by 20.
37:42They show a 24 foot wide dry mile.
37:45And I did refer this over to the fire marshal.
37:47He actually just got back to me today and had no comments.
37:51So from a firefighting perspective, you know, no comments from them.
37:56And then I referred it over to Drew.
37:58He did want some details.
38:00But there's no comment on the plan, including leaching pool details, the pavement section, and a couple of other things.
38:08So that the resolution that I have on is obviously subject to any revisions from engineering, from the fire marshal, from the highway superintendent.
38:18So we will require some plan revisions to reflect Drew's comments.
38:23You know, obviously before they undertake any site work, they'll need that road opening permit from the highway department.
38:28Fire marshal didn't have any comments.
38:30guess my point is is that this application on its own could proceed you
38:35know they could get an approval and then in the meantime 505 Lincoln Street I did
38:41provide them with a denial letter they can appeal to the zoning board to
38:45utilize this section of parking for their site plan understanding that that
38:50approval would be predicated on them continuing with their site plan the
38:54Polish hole parking improvements really could stand on their own even though
38:58they're inherently tied together because the applicant would be funding
39:03the improvements in the parking lot so the one thing I'd like to see how there
39:07is if people are going to be walking you know coming home from work parking their
39:11car they're walking to 505 to adequate lighting you know for the evening hours
39:16or early morning hours and people are walking from one building to the no so
39:21no lighting is proposed within the parking lot I don't know if that's
39:24something that was spoken to in the agreement
39:28that was no well even street lighting along the route there is street lighting
39:34there's plenty of street lighting there yeah we have a department a town
39:37department that deals with that so like if a bulb goes out you know the street
39:41lighting department would take care of that they would send someone out but you
39:45know when we come to the 505 Lincoln Street site plan my recommendation will
39:49be and I think this highway superintendent agree with me is to put a
39:53crosswalk here yes if that if the ZBA approves the off-site parking with a
39:58clear headlight so clear head lights so clear head lights so clear head lights
39:59clear head lights clear head lights clear head lights clear head lights clear head lights
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40:28wouldn't be a big ask in my opinion that's all I'm looking for Heather I'd
40:34a question on Marcy Avenue there are actually actually two curb cuts now are
40:39you going to reduce it to one they're not proposing any changes to the curb
40:43cuts on Marcy so the northern parking lot is going to remain I know there was
40:48two oh there were two here's two so this shows one okay because it still shows
40:52like one bigger one you're gonna make one one bigger one okay so you're just
40:55gonna remove this landscape tiny little islands there right all right that
41:02island is nothing yeah we have a lot of problems I see trucks pulling in and
41:07they can't they're running over the bushes so right and the curb cut on
41:11Sweezy there's one there already Heather like we talked about so they're actually
41:15there's two there's there's one that's closer to the south and there's like a
41:21dirt one up here yeah they're gonna get rid of they're gonna get rid of
41:25this and then just have one single improved curb cut on Sweezy so I'll make a
41:32more general statement any sort of work within the town right-of-ways will
41:35require review approval and appropriate permits through the highway department
41:40so there will be no parking lot lighting whatsoever I mean aside from the
41:45existing building lighting which you know I just want to make sure as Doc's
41:48got compliant I think I mentioned that
41:52he has the specs
41:54I have no objections when parking lights up
41:55I mean that you know I mean I don't know why it's not on the plan I can
42:00certainly ask Doug to do something with that you know because the parking lot
42:04should be lit I mean somebody's gonna walk there at night there's no reason
42:08why it's not bit but I'll I have yeah this is for what will be on pole so if we
42:15don't find the cut sheets that show the ones that are there now are compliant
42:20and we'll use the these are pictures of them on the storage facility these are
42:25also
42:25so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so
42:55Heather, one other thing when I walked the property, they have a kind of low wood wall
43:02about five feet away from the building on the south side.
43:05Are they going to replace that?
43:06Because that is kind of rotted.
43:09Where about is it?
43:12It's about five feet away from the wall.
43:14It's that little sump looking thing.
43:16Yeah, yeah.
43:17Chances are when we go to rip the parking lot, it's going to come out with it.
43:23Because it's a step down, I believe.
43:24It's a step down, but obviously we need grading to be away from the building too.
43:30But obviously when they start working, they're going to have to redo that.
43:34I saw some leaders that came down.
43:36Yeah, there's leaders that come up and over.
43:37Those are going to have to be channeled into the drywall.
43:41So that wall will have to be secured somehow, and those pipes are going to have to come
43:48through that and into the parking drainage for sure.
43:52We're not going to put all this drywall.
43:54We're going to have to put all this drywall in and then dump the gutter water into the
43:57parking lot.
43:58That would be crazy.
43:59I see you've got the three drainage areas marked out.
44:08Are you now going to regrade everything so that it flows that way?
44:12The grades there are actually pretty good.
44:15The thing that they're missing is all the drywall.
44:17So the grading is actually adequate, and it's pitched properly.
44:22Oh, yeah?
44:23Yeah.
44:24So you're going to pull the asphalt, pull the RCA, put in all the drainage, and then
44:28just put it all back.
44:29Okay.
44:30I mean, it looks like it would work.
44:33And what you're saying is it works now.
44:36It works now.
44:37Just dumping everything into the road.
44:38There's no road.
44:40Okay.
44:41All good, guys?
44:42Yeah.
44:43I think this is a great improvement.
44:44Yeah.
44:45I mean, it's a mutually beneficial action.
44:46Again, I think that by approving this administratively, we're going to have to re-do it.
44:47So I think that's a great improvement.
44:48Yeah.
44:49I think that's a great improvement.
44:50I think that's a great improvement.
44:51Yeah.
44:52I think that's a great improvement.
44:53Yeah.
44:54I think that's a great improvement.
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44:57I do have a clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
44:58clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
44:59clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
45:00clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
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45:02clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
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44:55clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
45:08clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
45:09clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
45:10into that area so in in terms of my resolution if we could amend to add a
45:19fifth condition so under condition 6 see the plan revisions if we can add five
45:28dark sky compliant lighting so just to sort of generalize it you know if they're
45:35going to add it you just want to make sure it comprise with code other than
45:38that I mean I reckon they're not proposing any landscaping they're gonna
45:43topsoil and see the areas of the disturb as a plant person I recommend if they're
45:49able to you know throw some native shrubs in there that would be great not
45:53necessarily required but I think it would definitely spruce this area up and
45:57sort of screen it from the railroad as well other than that it's a pretty
46:01straightforward application that's another reason why we really have to do
46:05the parking lot lighting tool because we are having some problems with people
46:08from the railroad you know that yeah we need to kind of curtail that we've we did
46:14it at the storage and it's helping out a little bit but Tommy you all have
46:18problems there right always people sleeping with stairwells yeah there's
46:23people sleeping everywhere so really lighting is good lighting is good it
46:27helps it helps but now you know we had fencing and barbed wire and we put
46:32plants hedges to cover that to take away the look of the barbed wire which looks
46:36great but now we're getting bottles thrown
46:38the railroad tracks into the windows and and the and the rivet police won't do
46:43anything it's only the MTA police that could investigate and do that so we're
46:50gonna try to keep a parking lot safe maybe we can do something if Troy and
46:54helps or something we can put some kind of fencing up and kind of eliminate that
46:58traffic coming that way overall an improvement to the site and again good
47:04for both parties and you know hopefully 505 Lincoln Street
47:08is successful with the ZBA and then they'll come back to you with their site
47:11plan okay sounds good good good guess yes have a vote a little while for you
47:18welcome Jim did a great job with you know more so thanks for coming by and
47:24look at that I appreciate that really good item number six TJ OC real estate
47:30holdings Greg
47:38so this is just a quick update on the TJ OC Calverton development it's a proposed
47:48major subdivision and site plan out in Calverton across the street from the
47:54vicinity of the attractive supply next to Jane our steakhouse back on June 5th
47:59the Planning Board adopted a resolution which deemed a draft environmental
48:04impact statement as inadequate for public review I provided a deeming
48:08detailed list of comments that needed to be addressed the applicant turned it
48:13around pretty quickly I mean it wasn't a major list but they did address all
48:18those items that were detailed in the requirements so to that end the revised
48:23D EIS meets the scope that we set forth back for their environmental review
48:28they've addressed those items so we have two resolutions on for this
48:32meeting one accepts the D EIS and authorizes the planning department
48:37distribute it to involved agencies and make it available for public review.
48:41We have a resolution on that.
48:42We'll schedule a joint public hearing.
48:44That public hearing will encompass both the site plan, the subdivision, as well as the DEIS.
48:51Combined hearings are actually something that's encouraged under SECRA,
48:55rather than have three separate hearings for a DEIS.
48:58Do you run them concurrently?
49:01So, yeah.
49:02Like close one, open one, close one?
49:04It would just be.
49:05Or do you close them all?
49:06It would just be.
49:06You would open.
49:07It would be a combined hearing.
49:08And, again, the purpose of it, obviously, you want to get comments on the draft environmental impact statement,
49:17but they're all comments on the overall development.
49:20So, I mean, it's somewhat difficult to separate the subdivision from the site plan,
49:26but it would just be one public hearing.
49:28Okay.
49:29So, if the citizens had valid points, we can still add them at that time?
49:34Well, yeah.
49:34So, the purpose of the draft environment.
49:36The document will be available for public review.
49:41Public can comment on the draft EIS.
49:44All of those comments would then be, you know, we would record them.
49:47Is there a time limit?
49:49On the.
49:50On comments coming back.
49:53So, yeah, we have.
49:54I can double check.
49:55There is a time frame.
49:56I mean, when you deal with SECRA, you are under specific time frames,
50:01which is why the resubmitted DEIS.
50:05We were under.
50:06We were under a time frame to, you know, review it.
50:08Yeah.
50:09Let me just double check.
50:10I don't want to get my.
50:12Yeah.
50:15And Greg, the new DEIS has the building.
50:19But yes.
50:19Yes. I mean, it addressed.
50:21That was one of the comments that we identified as being deficient.
50:25So, it does have the.
50:29It does have the reoriented building that kind of oriented in a north to south direction.
50:36So, the draft EIS public comment period.
50:43Minimum 30 days.
50:45I mean, again, so this, you know, we will have a.
50:49We accept the document.
50:51The public hearing would be scheduled for the first meeting in September, which I believe is 70.
50:56September 4th.
50:59The hearing needs to take place 60 days after filing of the draft EIS, which we're within that.
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51:07so we'd have the public hearing and then the applicant would prepare the final eis
51:14okay on the have they given any alternatives so yeah the alternatives are in the in the draft
51:23environmental impact statement uh one of the alternatives was a reduced density plan that
51:28complies with uh article six you know sanitary density regulations uh one of the alternatives
51:34was essentially taking the proposed building and kind of rotating it 90 degrees so that the
51:41residential wings face north to south instead of having a you know residential wing right on middle
51:47country road uh so those were the alternatives that they looked at okay i'll look at them
51:54thank you for this copy yeah i mean we'll get i'll get ones you know like i have we i get it
52:00digitally i get it flash drives but before i had the applicant print off
52:04you know a ton of these they do need to make one revision which they've made it's basically
52:08essentially a typo but we can get physical copies if you like with all the appendices that show up
52:13so september 4th would be the public hearing yes let me just i will confirm that i believe it's
52:18september 4th the first meeting in september so yeah september 4th someone's gone someone's gone
52:28just like that anything else guys no i'm good good nothing okay thank you
52:34greg uh number seven seacrest estates villas at run oak with greg again
52:42what kind of changes we're making on our fence so this is just this was a proposed modification
52:48to the fencing um for the proposed recharge basin uh the fencing now is just really going
52:58to encompass the ponding area i had both vinnie gaudiello review the proposed fencing design
53:04as well as mike zaleski the highway superintendent as this road would be potentially dedicated to the
53:09town they were both fine with the amended fencing location um i wasn't sure if i even really needed
53:15a resolution but some material uh chain link fence there there are standard you know there's
53:21there's standard requirements that are detailed in our town of red road and drainage standards so
53:25it's a uh chain link fence uh just modifies the location again just to keep the record clear
53:32just a resolution to approve the modified
53:34fencing but vinnie and mike are both good with it greg when i walked it um there's no way just
53:40leaving a natural um you know recharge basin because there's a now if a roadway is going to
53:47be dedicated dedicated to the town it absolutely needs to be fenced okay because you have wetlands
53:53just to the west of that yeah just okay good yep very good kenny good okay um okay at this point in
54:04time we're going to talk about public comments on resolutions
54:09okay not seeing any takers let's go into resolutions uh resolution number one okay good
54:15resolution 71 sandy pond links trade shops managers restaurant clubhouse
54:22bringing the preliminary site approval so moved second moved in second mr zelnicki yes mr hogan yes
54:29mr nero hi mr bear yes and i vote aye the motion carries
54:34i'll move resolution number 72 accept the deis for site plan and subdivision for tjoc holdings
54:43second moved in second mr zelnicki yes mr hogan yes mr nero hi mr bear yes and i vote aye the
54:51motion carries i'll move resolution number 2025 73 tgos tjoc real estate holdings llc
54:59resolution to schedule a combined public hearing on the major subdivision application so moved
55:04second moved in second mr zelnicki yes mr hogan yes mr nero mr bear yes and i vote aye the motion
55:11carries resolution 2025 074 sea crest the state resolution approving a amended site amended
55:21fencing layout for a recharge basin at the site of the approved major subdivision so moved second
55:27moved in second mr zanicki yes mr hogan yes mr nero hi mr bear yes and i vote aye the motion carries
55:34I move resolution 2025 74 Seacrest Estates no next one well I know five
55:43do those four on mine okay okay five
55:50I'm formally known as villas at Roanoke approving and no no no next iceberg
55:56is Bauer is though oh sorry sorry all right
56:03see Cresta States I mean excuse me well whisper were residents 219 granting
56:09approval for the amended amendment to 2019 I'll second it yeah that's
56:14resolution 75 moved in second mr. Zanucki yes mr. Hogan yes listen in arrow
56:19mr. bear yes and I vote either motion carries six okay I'll move resolution
56:25number 76
56:26classifying is a type 2 action part of sequence and schedule a public hearing
56:31for two bluffs drive second move in second mr. Zanucki yes mr. Hogan yes
56:37listen an arrow mr. bear yes and I vote either motion carries I'll move
56:42resolution number 20 25 0 7 7 Polish wall parking lot improvements
56:47resolution granting admitted straighted site plan approval for the site plan
56:51application as amended so moved second moved
56:56in second as amended mrs. Zanucki yes mr. Hogan yes mr. Nannerow mr. bear yes
57:02no I vote either motion carries good luck 20 25 0 7 8 baconic farms LLC minor
57:09subdivision resolution to classify a 4-lot subdivision applicant application
57:16as a type 2 action pursuant to secret second moved in second mrs. Zanucki yes
57:22mr. Hogan yes mr. Nannerow hi mr. bear yes and I vote aye
57:22so moved in second mrs. Zanucki yes mr. Hogan yes mr. Nannerow aye mr. bear yes and I vote aye
57:22yes mr. Nero mr. bear yes and I vote either motion carries I'm over that
57:30resolution number 20 250 79 summer wind farms LLC major subdivision resolution
57:35to retain okay okay ma as traffic consultant for the traffic engineering
57:42assessment so moved second moved in second mr. Zunicki yes mr. Hogan yes
57:47mr. Nero I mr. bear yes and I vote yes to motion carries okay yes sir did we do
57:55to number 77 yes yes yes we put the foot because we amended the Polish yep thank
58:07you okay public we finished that right yes 79 someone okay public comments on
58:15all matters
58:17not seeing any hands we have no minutes of the meeting as of yet Greg no secret
58:23actions sir other business correspondence staff everybody's good
58:29all right our next meeting will be Thursday August 7th at 6 p.m. we have a
58:35motion to close the meeting so move move this second all in favor all right all
58:41opposed motion carries have a great weekend everybody
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Thank you. [transcription gap] Ripping the whole foundation out and putting in a new concrete foundation or doing pile driving Particularly because it's a sensitive area So they felt that this was the least intrusive way to reinforce the foundation And again, we we kind of knew that the CMU foundation wasn't going to be adequate So that's why we required the structural analysis and upon review by Vinnie he found that what they're proposing is adequate and You know isn't changing any other scope or part of the project. So all conditions that we required of them including Their construction restrictions they can only do construction in the park when it's closed So from October to March, I believe that was a condition of approval that stands So nothing else about the project scope is changing other than the foundation details So at this point just to memorialize it I wanted to bring it back to the board Have a resolution to reflect that that way everyone is on the up-and-up and the building apartment will have the most up-to-date plans Okay The only question I had either on the Assessables are they are they new cesspools? No, there's there existing and this was discussed at the median back in November You know, I think they're located sort of in between the house and their own they are being proposed to remain They're not increasing the bedroom count in the cottage again They're just sort of there! [transcription gap] there! [transcription gap] there! [transcription gap] reconfiguring and rebuilding so they wouldn't need Health Department approval anyway they are permitted to maintain that okay okay everybody's good all right stay there Heather we have item number two to Bluffs Drive minor subdivision so for the board this is a new application it was submitted a couple of years ago they just we need the map to get to a point where it was adequate enough to present to the board in conjunction with town law so this is for two Bluffs Drive minor subdivision Suffolk County tax up number six hundred dash 39-5-5 point 19 they're proposing to subdivide three point five three two acre vacant lot into three separate buildable locks the locks located with the president's 840 zoning use district and the proposed size of the lots um which are a little over an acre each more specifically lot one is proposed at one point two acres lot two is one point zero four acres lot three is one point two nine acres all comply with the minimum size requirements in the zoning use district so they do not need any variances it's a type two action pursuant to secret and just a little history on the property at one point and sort of going through the subdivision records because there is a major subdivision directly to the north of this parcel it is not on the filed map I know it has a tax cut number that's actually very similar to the Lots within that subdivision to the north but it was not filed with it's actually an out parcel so it can be subdivided at one point the prior owners were looking to build a house on it they've received Health Department so it's recognized by the Health Department the new owners are seeking to subdivide it again into three separate Lots so that's clear so so so three separate lots. They would all take access off of the existing cul-de-sac. You're saying there's a lot on this now? There's a house on this now? No, no, so the prior owners were looking to build a single house on this lot and then, I guess, abandoned those plans. But the fact of the matter is the health department gave approval for a sanitary system, so they do recognize the lot. So it's not part of the major subdivision to the north, although it's served, it will be served by the road and the cul-de-sac. So two of the lots will take access from a common driveway off of the cul-de-sac. They also show an access easement going across lot three to the property to the west, which is owned by Vander Wettering, I believe. And one thing that our consulting engineer, when I originally referred this to him, asked was, what's the purpose and the status of the proposed right of way? You know, they're claiming that it's for access to that lot, but they already have access off of a flag on Soundy Avenue. So, you know, that's sort of a question that I think remains outstanding. Other than that, some of the other notes that, and comments that Vinnie had, have been addressed as far as like lot width for each of the lots. They all conform with the minimum lot width. I did, upon Vinnie's recommendation, refer it over to Drew, because he is our stormwater manager. He's our management officer. And he actually just came back with comments the other day. They're not in my staff report, but I can provide a copy to each of you, and I'll just read them. He needs site details added to the plan, including leaching pool details and paving sections. I'm thinking specifically for that common driveway. That's something that we typically see. For example, in the 105 Pier Avenue minor subdivision, they had a typical pavement section and drainage for the common driveway on their map. And he also said, because the three parcels are being broken out from a larger plan, which totals over an acre in land disturbance, an erosion and sediment control plan must be completed and submitted to this office. So they won't need to do a full SWPPP, but Drew wants to see an erosion and sediment control plan just because of the size and their proposed area of disturbance. I did refer it over to the health department. They came back with comments. Those are in my staff report. I also forwarded it to the Suffolk County Planning Commission. They found it to be a matter for local determination. I also had referred it over to highway. Obviously any changes. It's a town road. So any changes within that cul-de-sac on Bluffs Drive are going to require review and approval. Probably road opening permits from the highway department. The Water District came back with comments specifically about the hydrant that's in the cul-de-sac. I don't know if you saw the picture. It's a little overgrown there, but it seems like based on where they want to put the driveway. So I think that's going to be a big part of this. So I think that's going to be a big part of this. so I think that's going to be a big part of this. [transcription gap] water district and the fire marshal. And I had referred this back to the fire marshals in 2023. Obviously, with the most recent set of plans, I re-referred it, seeing as, you know, Andrew Smith is now the chief fire marshal. And he did come back with comments as well. He said an additional hydrant may be required just due to the length of the driveway and where the proposed building lots are, the building envelopes. So that's something that the design professional is going to have to demonstrate whether or not they'll need one based on the distance requirements for R3 occupancy. I think it's 600 feet is the maximum distance from a hydrant. Do you know what those tanks are all about? That I'm not sure. And that's something that I brought up to the design professional. You know, I didn't get all the way back there when I did my site inspection. It was very overgrown. And naturally, I picked a day where it was sunny and then ended up downpouring. So I didn't get to go as far into the property as I wanted. But the aerial images are very interesting. And I think it's a great way to get a sense of what's going on. The aerial images are pretty clear. Like they've been there for quite some time. I don't know what's been stored in them, if there's anything stored in them. Can I connect with anything? Not that I can tell from the aerials, but that's something that I want them to address. You know, because if there was some sort of like oil or some sort of like pesticide, you know, we want to see maybe some soil sampling just to make sure. Or if they're empty, great, then just remove them from the site. But they've been there for quite some time. The pond is not on anybody's wetland map? No. It's funny. They showed it on their map. They showed it on their map. And they showed it on their map. And I was curious because it doesn't come up on our GIS as a town of Riverhead wetland or New York State DEC wetland. And I went back through some of the historical aerials on Suffolk GIS. When they built that house on the neighboring lot, they created the pond. So they did like a man-made, I don't know if it's a koi pond or, you know, what the purpose is. But it's not considered a freshwater wetland by the town or the New York State DEC. I just wanted to make a note of it because they did show it on the map. But it's not actually a contributing surface water. Other than that, you know, obviously the board needs time to look at the map. But at this point in time, the maps are ready to go to a public hearing, which is required. So we can take questions. Go what the proposed right-of-way is that for? Yeah, that's one of the questions that Vinnie had that again I said is still outstanding. They show it on the map. They say it's based on a survey, but they don't really specify as to what's for. They said that it was for access to the neighboring lot, but the neighboring lot has access via a flag driveway that goes all the way down to sound. So that's something that they can, the applicant's representatives, can address at the public hearing. Unfortunately, they couldn't be here today. They are aware that the public hearing date will be for August 21st. They will be here so any questions you have, or the public will have, can be addressed at that point. I'll just head forward so she's clear. is going stuff further with those tanks yeah we should try to find out where they came from on the property so that i think we should do those are big tanks yeah you know if there's any leakage i mean i think to protect ourselves we should find out what's in there you know i mean they look like oil to me but those are i suspect they might be propane tanks no no no they're not okay but that's a lingering question as well that's sort of imposed and you know the applicants representative did get a copy of my staff report so i'm hoping that they'll come back prepared with some information um in anticipation yeah well they've got a month yeah we need to determine where they pulled them out of because they didn't pull them right out of there look at the size of the trailer yeah compared to the tanks i mean the tank huge yeah i think that this lot was probably at one time part of the lot to the south i mean this was it went from soundy avenue all the way up to point point point point point point point point point point point point point point point point to the long island sound this was one big lot and then the major subdivision to the north um got filed and again this was carved out as an out parcel um so maybe it was part of the farm lot to the south it's really it's because i think that's all um not vander wettering but the nursery that's there when did you when did you make your site inspection 2023 yeah so i mean i could definitely go back up there but this application was made quite some time ago unfortunately there were issues with the map um where i didn't feel it was appropriate to bring it to the planning board because i don't remember i mean i remember i kind of remember this in a way you know kind of back there somewhere um i think those tanks are something we should point out about yeah i'll definitely relay that to the applicant and uh we'll have some answers for the board of public hearing just to get back to the road again will that road be a town road or it is so bluffs drive is already a town road including the cul-de-sac so the driveway will take access off of it but for the lot access it's a private driveway so a common driveway easement will have to be filed um as is typical of any subdivision utilizing a common drive okay so that'll be private okay thank you and heather it says uh 20 by 84 feet and that can also change it may go longer or whatever it says right on the map here 20 by 80 the common drive which goes into each property um but like you said each driveway will have their own drainage and then that will have its own drainage also yes so they're showing this as the common driveway and i'll note that there are 15 foot flags so that each lot has access pursuant to town law 280a that's one of the things that you know the map needs to be considered complete to come to the planning board because you can't grant access to something that's landlocked so they each have the appropriate front end section and then they'll be utilizing this improved section which again drew is asking for the paving details and the drainage details and then each lot you know as building code requires you to maintain your stormwater on site so residential lots buildings they'll have gutters dry wells whatever they need pursuant to new york state building code to maintain their water on site but the driveway specifically since it's on the subdivision map we have to make sure that it's not a paving so that's one of the things that we're going to be looking at and then we'll be looking at the details of that anybody else okay thank you heather uh let's go to item number three polish hall parking lot improvements with heather i don't think i'm alone on this one oh okay okay can we skip and come back yeah okay okay uh we're going to go to four peconic farms llc with greg bergman so head head head head head head !

subdivision application on Peconic Bay Boulevard and Jamesport. The planning board back in November of 2023 granted a conditional approval for a preliminary plat for a six lot major subdivision of a vacant existing 9.57 acre parcel located on the south side of Peconic Bay Boulevard located directly adjacent to the town of Riverhead boat ramp property. The map at that time required it was going to be a private road but because it was a major subdivision it was going to require infrastructure improvements including the roadway design, the drainage design, as well as the creation of an HOA to maintain. It was about I think it was like a 4.9 acre open space area on the back end. It was a clustered subdivision. I guess just the expense of going to the town of Riverhead and going through all the drainage and infrastructure work and creating the HOA. The applicant has elected to reduce the density of the map. Now proposing a four lot minor subdivision. All the lots comply with the dimension requirements of the RA-40 zoning district. You know it's pretty straightforward. The property is located. Significant portion of the property is located within a flood zone. So any development for residential dwellings within that flood zone. Would need to comply with FEMA regulations. But beyond that pretty straightforward. Each lot would have a private driveway off of Pecan Bay Boulevard. It would just take water service individually to each lot. They wouldn't have to do a water main, a lateral water main extension. So pretty straightforward. I do have a resolution on it to schedule a public hearing even though it is a reduced density plat. We did have a public hearing on the more intense development. I spoke with Eric Howard. I thought it was appropriate to just keep the record clean. We would do a public hearing on it and then we could move forward with an approval. Yeah I think it's a good business move. In situations where we've got something like this is it possible to have like a common driveway like between one and two and then three and four? I mean we could but these lots are about 180 roughly 180 to 185 feet wide. So I mean there would be more than enough room. Oh I know there's room. Yeah. Our standard standard guidance for standard. Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. owners of a driveway, like you do, we do, you know, obviously Bluffs Drive has a common driveway where they need to sort of consolidate that access. On a case like this where you've got almost, you know, probably 700 plus feet of frontage, I mean we could or we could not. I just, I don't think that it's necessarily required in this case. Okay. Yeah. That would not be the applicant's preference. I'm sure. So beyond that, have a resolution. It is a type two under SECRA. The one thing I would say is, you know, I mean being that this is a voluntary reduction, the lots probably should be precluded from further subdivision. You know, we've seen this consistently where, you know, like a minor on top of minor on top of minor. And then you, you know, then it's a case where you do end up with, you know, flag lots and common driveways that are sort of less than desirable. So that would just be my one recommendation to the Board as we move forward to, you know, not. Not that they're attempting to, but we don't want to see a future owner down there trying to subvert the major subdivision process. That's getting out of the way of doing a major. Yeah. Especially the first lot, Greg, which is, you know, it's three acres. Yeah. I mean, realistically, you know, lots, I mean, so the, the, we did approve a seven lot, you know, they, they submitted a yield map as we reviewed the initial submission. So the, as of right development yield on the property, I believe was seven lots. The six lot, the six lot subdivision map was done to remove the requirement for the land. So we're going to have to do a long out workforce housing act, but as of right seven, what's that? Was it nine? Yeah. All right. Sorry. It's been a while, but yeah, so that, so it was a reduced density even from the as of right. But yeah, I mean, in a case like this where you do have, you know, all the lots could be then further subdivided, I would just make that recommendation. That's fair. Yeah. But beyond that, pretty straightforward. We'll get the public hearing. We can get all the notices out, get the mailings done. Good gentlemen. Good luck. When is the public hearing? Uh, first meeting in August, August 7th. You said a lateral water main. Well, no, no, no. On the, on the other major subdivision, they would have had to bring one. Yeah. So this, this would just be individual tasks for each. Thank you, Martin. Okay. Let's go to number five. Sandy pond trade shops, managers, residents, and the clubhouse. Okay. 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Kimberly Judd, 737 Roto-Gaddon, the applicant. Earl Trollin, the applicant. Doug Adams and Jamaica, the applicant. 400 Wall Street. All right. So this is just a follow-up on the cyclone application for Sandy Pond. It's the application to construct a clubhouse, three trade shop buildings, and a manager's residence. The plans have been revised previously. The clubhouse on the old plans did not show any basement access, but the floor plans and the architectural plans indicated basement access. So the plans have been revised to provide access to the basement for storage. They relocated the sanitary system to meet the required separation. Beyond that, I mean, that was the only real major change we were looking for, so we do have a preliminary approval resolution on. They do require, will require the relocation of a drainage easement on the property that takes water from Roanoke Avenue and conveys it to one of the on-site ponds. That easement was formalized and recorded when we came, when they came in for the special permit for the mini golf course. The understanding was that when they came in for this, they were going to relocate that drainage easement. So preliminary approval on, pretty straightforward. There is no stormwater pollution prevention plan required for this project. The applicant did submit a SWIP waiver to the engineering department, and there is no need for a stormwater pollution prevention plan. So there's a couple of items that they need to address, submit some draft covenants, and then they'd be ready for a final. Okay. The only question I have, Greg, Earl, on the proposed, the blend mix, and. Why are you doing that instead of the blackout ground? We were just talking about that. I think they might want to do asphalt. We can do that. Yeah, only if it's snow removal. It would increase the drainage design a little bit. Yeah, yeah. We may do that, or a portion thereof. Okay. Something like that. I was just thinking originally that maybe you wanted to see more of the natural drainage, but we're not opposed to. It's probably not as functional for what it's been. Yeah. Yeah. I see on the print, though, there's a private driveway that's going to service the. The manager's office. Right. Manager's residence. Is that. Do you have the dimensions on that driveway, the width, or anything on it? Like how. Would it be wide enough to handle an emergency vehicle being it's so far off the road? I'm sorry? Would it be wide enough to handle an emergency vehicle being it's so far off the road? I think it's a residential driveway. I don't know that it needs to be. Yeah, it's just going to be 10 feet or 12 feet driveway. Yeah, I mean, it's probably about 12 feet. 12 feet wide, 13, 16 feet. 12 feet. We're not required to have like 20 foot clear and 14 foot high for a house like that. Okay. And these buildings are going to be sprinkled with water for fire? Are they going to be sprinkled? No. We're not proposed. Oh, they're not? Yeah, we're advised by our professionals that it doesn't require sprinkling. It's one story. And we're putting in. We're putting in a hydrant across the street on the west side. Yep, we're putting it. They're actually doing it on the west. They're bringing a hydrant to the west side of the road. We're bringing it right across the street right to our property, a new hydrant as well. Right. But isn't there one across the street? Why would you? There is one. There's two. There's two across the street. I don't know why we're doing that. So it was a request from the fire marshal. The reason being, if there was any type of fire event there, if they were to access the hydrant across the street, they would basically have to lay a hose across Roanoke Avenue. Shut that down. Shut it down. [transcription gap] Put a hydrant on the west side of the road to not have to shut down Roanoke Avenue in the event of an emergency. But wouldn't you have to do that in the case of any fire if the hydrant is across the street? It just... It's in case the water feature burns down. Exactly. I think that Mr. Stark may still pursue maybe not doing that hydrant, but... I mean, it is right across the street. Yeah. There's two. There's two. There's one in front of the proposed clubhouse across the street, and there's one right in front of where the trade shops are going across the street. Yeah. And if there's a fire department... Yeah. And if there's a fire department... If a fire truck were to access the hydrant on our side of the street, they're shutting Roanoke down Avenue anyway. Yeah. Of course. It's getting shut down if there's a fire. Or the use of any hydrant. But, you know, if I think if push comes to shove, you know, the fire department, you know, the fire marshal would have... I think Brian would do it. I think he's just trying to look at costs and stuff. Yeah. Really. The realistic reality of the need for it. But it's on there for now. Yeah. Okay. There's one on the east side. On the... On the... On the plan, Doug. For the sanitary. Is that correct? That it's all going to that... Yeah. The existing system that's... Existing system. That was put in as part of the subdivision process for this is... The size of it is conducive to handle the flow out of the trade shops. The flow is very low for the trade shops. There's just... Okay. You know, some bathrooms in there for the... The owners... But the occupancy is super low. And it's... It's... We're expecting health department approval actually any day on it. And then there's a new IA system going in for the clubhouse. Yeah. For the clubhouse. Yeah. And where's the water supply? Where's the water supply line? I couldn't... I couldn't make it out. Yeah, there's two. There's an existing one right at the driveway to the... Just don't make a... The driveway entrance. And there's going to be another one right next to the south fence of the mini golf. Straight into the clubhouse. Okay. I believe.

I can show you on this map if you want. We've got one here coming into the clubhouse. That's proposed. And the existing one is right here, right by the driveway. RPC installed already. Yeah. Already. I was looking at the way the water main goes around the trade shop. Okay. And it's very close to the other water main. Yeah. It's in that... I don't know. It's in that... The southern portion of the property. The southern boundary. It should be on this one. The trade show. And you've got a water service line going to the back. Let's put this water service in. That's right. It's maybe 20 feet from the service for the... The water service for the residential. But I guess you can't make... You can't... Okay. So, I'm sorry. There is another water service specifically for the residential. It's going on the south. Yeah. Right. It's just a mini tap. Yeah. But you... The existing water main goes around what would be and through the drainage for the trade shops. That's going to be removed. Well, that's going to be removed. Yeah. We're going to be coming in front of the trade shops. Right. Look on the map there. Right across the front. Yeah. And then it curves up. Goes up. We're a one-inch water service. Yeah. So, it comes up here. Goes around. And I guess you're coming in behind the... Right. Behind the trade shop. This trade shop. Right. So, I can feed that. Back building. But, yeah. This... Yeah. So, all I'm saying is these two water services are just 10 to 20 feet apart. Why can't you just hook them up and just forget about one of the water services? That water service for the proposed... No. This water service is across the parking lot from the clubhouse. Go back to the first show. So... So, we have... We have... Oh, you mean for the residential? Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. Yeah. ! Oh, you mean for the residents? yeah the residents and it is like a 10 10 20 feet between them so why not just like we would be allowed to do that because this is all commercial considering considering it's all commercial so we could do that well with the one he's gonna get one separate meter on it anyway because the whole purpose of the managed residents to get a manager in there take care of the place and anything water prop it's gonna be gratis what's that he's good he could he could just take take off that other yeah yeah and get rid of that whole service sure I don't see why we I don't see why we couldn't do that I think we might have done it that way originally because he thought maybe the managed residents would come in before the trade shops and then we needed a sort of residential three quarter it's gonna have one bill for the whole yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so she's planning doing so same time practically right at this point so yeah yeah yeah we'll just do this do you guys anything else gentlemen she's stuck around we gotta vote later so back to full full truck because yeah okay yes all right we're gonna go back to item number 3 polish full parking lot improvement with Heather.

Hi. Hi. And if everybody could just state their names for the record. Kimberly Judd, 737 Lowndes Avenue for the applicant. Tom Nijen, 1131 Ostrander, Riverhead Polish Hall President. Jim Matuszki, 505 Lincoln Street Opportunity Zone applicant. Alright, so this is a site plan application for the Polish Hall located at 214 Marcy Avenue in Riverhead. We're particularly identified as Suffolk County Taxment number 600-124-2-50.2 and we're particularly identified as Suffolk County Taxment number 600-124-2-50.2 So the scope of work on this application is limited to the southern parking lot. I mean, it's improved but not striped. Lacking drainage could definitely use some help. And then they're going to propose some additional stalls proximate to Sweezy Avenue. They are not touching the northern parking lot and there are no other changes on site with regard to the existing building. The existing accesses on Marcy Avenue will remain. They are proposing to consolidate and clean up a curb cut on Sweezy Avenue. I spoke with the highway superintendent the other day and he said obviously they would be subject to a road opening permit. He would like to see a crosswalk put in on Sweezy, given the fact that the purpose of the improvements at Polish Hall, you know, while the Polish Hall could undertake the improvements themselves, this would certainly be doable. But the 505 Lincoln Street site plan, which this board discussed this last April, it's an intriguing site. It's directly diagonally across from the Polish Hall site on Lincoln Street. It's that triangular shaped piece and has existed in its configuration for years with really no parking available on site. When we discussed the 505 Lincoln Street site plan application last year, at that point in time, the applicant was able to provide an accessible stall, which is required on the site, but they have no room for the required parking. So they were originally proposing an off-site parking agreement at 817 Pulaski Street, either by traversing through the Polish Hall parking lot, which, you know, without an agreement would be unlikely. And then when we scaled out exactly how far it would be if someone were to walk along Sweezy to Pulaski to Marcy to get to 817 Pulaski, I think it was like an inevitable. I didn't have an example of an example of an You know, it would need zoning board approval, and this board was not supportive of that. So upon revisiting options, the owner of 505 Lincoln Street and the Polish Hole, you know, over the course of a few months, over a year actually, came to an agreement where 505 Lincoln Street would be able to utilize just a portion of this parking for their own site, which would still require ZB approval because it is a little bit more than 200 feet as required by code. And the Polish Hole is in a residential zone, even though it's clearly a commercial use, it's in a residential zone. So the zoning board will have to give permission to the 505 Lincoln Street parking agreement for that. But in plain terms of the Polish Hole parking lot and their improvements alone, it's an unlisted action pursuant to SECRA. And, you know, no environment. Environmental impacts are anticipated. So I would recommend that the board adopt a negative declaration and approve this administratively without the need for a public hearing. You know, it's a benefit to the Polish Hole in addition to, you know, obviously benefiting the applicant. But it'll bring much needed organization to the parking lot where, again, the parking lots existed, but without any sort of legitimate striped stalls. No drainage either. And no drainage. Yeah, they're proposing drainage. So it'll. Be a much needed, a much needed facelift for this southern parking lot. All the stalls, 10 by 20s. Yes. Yeah. So all the stalls are proposed at 10 by 20. They show a 24 foot wide dry mile. And I did refer this over to the fire marshal. He actually just got back to me today and had no comments. So from a firefighting perspective, you know, no comments from them. And then I referred it over to Drew. He did want some details. But there's no comment on the plan, including leaching pool details, the pavement section, and a couple of other things. So that the resolution that I have on is obviously subject to any revisions from engineering, from the fire marshal, from the highway superintendent. So we will require some plan revisions to reflect Drew's comments. You know, obviously before they undertake any site work, they'll need that road opening permit from the highway department. Fire marshal didn't have any comments. guess my point is is that this application on its own could proceed you know they could get an approval and then in the meantime 505 Lincoln Street I did provide them with a denial letter they can appeal to the zoning board to utilize this section of parking for their site plan understanding that that approval would be predicated on them continuing with their site plan the Polish hole parking improvements really could stand on their own even though they're inherently tied together because the applicant would be funding the improvements in the parking lot so the one thing I'd like to see how there is if people are going to be walking you know coming home from work parking their car they're walking to 505 to adequate lighting you know for the evening hours or early morning hours and people are walking from one building to the no so no lighting is proposed within the parking lot I don't know if that's something that was spoken to in the agreement that was no well even street lighting along the route there is street lighting there's plenty of street lighting there yeah we have a department a town department that deals with that so like if a bulb goes out you know the street lighting department would take care of that they would send someone out but you know when we come to the 505 Lincoln Street site plan my recommendation will be and I think this highway superintendent agree with me is to put a crosswalk here yes if that if the ZBA approves the off-site parking with a clear headlight so clear head lights so clear head lights so clear head lights clear head lights clear head lights clear head lights clear head lights clear head lights [transcription gap] wouldn't be a big ask in my opinion that's all I'm looking for Heather I'd a question on Marcy Avenue there are actually actually two curb cuts now are you going to reduce it to one they're not proposing any changes to the curb cuts on Marcy so the northern parking lot is going to remain I know there was two oh there were two here's two so this shows one okay because it still shows like one bigger one you're gonna make one one bigger one okay so you're just gonna remove this landscape tiny little islands there right all right that island is nothing yeah we have a lot of problems I see trucks pulling in and they can't they're running over the bushes so right and the curb cut on Sweezy there's one there already Heather like we talked about so they're actually there's two there's there's one that's closer to the south and there's like a dirt one up here yeah they're gonna get rid of they're gonna get rid of this and then just have one single improved curb cut on Sweezy so I'll make a more general statement any sort of work within the town right-of-ways will require review approval and appropriate permits through the highway department so there will be no parking lot lighting whatsoever I mean aside from the existing building lighting which you know I just want to make sure as Doc's got compliant I think I mentioned that he has the specs I have no objections when parking lights up I mean that you know I mean I don't know why it's not on the plan I can certainly ask Doug to do something with that you know because the parking lot should be lit I mean somebody's gonna walk there at night there's no reason why it's not bit but I'll I have yeah this is for what will be on pole so if we don't find the cut sheets that show the ones that are there now are compliant and we'll use the these are pictures of them on the storage facility these are also so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so Heather, one other thing when I walked the property, they have a kind of low wood wall about five feet away from the building on the south side. Are they going to replace that? Because that is kind of rotted. Where about is it? It's about five feet away from the wall. It's that little sump looking thing. Yeah, yeah. Chances are when we go to rip the parking lot, it's going to come out with it. Because it's a step down, I believe. It's a step down, but obviously we need grading to be away from the building too. But obviously when they start working, they're going to have to redo that. I saw some leaders that came down. Yeah, there's leaders that come up and over. Those are going to have to be channeled into the drywall. So that wall will have to be secured somehow, and those pipes are going to have to come through that and into the parking drainage for sure. We're not going to put all this drywall. We're going to have to put all this drywall in and then dump the gutter water into the parking lot. That would be crazy. I see you've got the three drainage areas marked out. Are you now going to regrade everything so that it flows that way? The grades there are actually pretty good. The thing that they're missing is all the drywall. So the grading is actually adequate, and it's pitched properly. Oh, yeah? Yeah. So you're going to pull the asphalt, pull the RCA, put in all the drainage, and then just put it all back. Okay. I mean, it looks like it would work. And what you're saying is it works now. It works now. Just dumping everything into the road. There's no road. Okay. All good, guys? Yeah. I think this is a great improvement. Yeah. I mean, it's a mutually beneficial action. Again, I think that by approving this administratively, we're going to have to re-do it. So I think that's a great improvement. Yeah. I think that's a great improvement. I think that's a great improvement. Yeah. I think that's a great improvement. Yeah. I think that's a great improvement. [transcription gap] I do have a clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear into that area so in in terms of my resolution if we could amend to add a fifth condition so under condition 6 see the plan revisions if we can add five dark sky compliant lighting so just to sort of generalize it you know if they're going to add it you just want to make sure it comprise with code other than that I mean I reckon they're not proposing any landscaping they're gonna topsoil and see the areas of the disturb as a plant person I recommend if they're able to you know throw some native shrubs in there that would be great not necessarily required but I think it would definitely spruce this area up and sort of screen it from the railroad as well other than that it's a pretty straightforward application that's another reason why we really have to do the parking lot lighting tool because we are having some problems with people from the railroad you know that yeah we need to kind of curtail that we've we did it at the storage and it's helping out a little bit but Tommy you all have problems there right always people sleeping with stairwells yeah there's people sleeping everywhere so really lighting is good lighting is good it helps it helps but now you know we had fencing and barbed wire and we put plants hedges to cover that to take away the look of the barbed wire which looks great but now we're getting bottles thrown the railroad tracks into the windows and and the and the rivet police won't do anything it's only the MTA police that could investigate and do that so we're gonna try to keep a parking lot safe maybe we can do something if Troy and helps or something we can put some kind of fencing up and kind of eliminate that traffic coming that way overall an improvement to the site and again good for both parties and you know hopefully 505 Lincoln Street is successful with the ZBA and then they'll come back to you with their site plan okay sounds good good good guess yes have a vote a little while for you welcome Jim did a great job with you know more so thanks for coming by and look at that I appreciate that really good item number six TJ OC real estate holdings Greg

so this is just a quick update on the TJ OC Calverton development it's a proposed major subdivision and site plan out in Calverton across the street from the vicinity of the attractive supply next to Jane our steakhouse back on June 5th the Planning Board adopted a resolution which deemed a draft environmental impact statement as inadequate for public review I provided a deeming detailed list of comments that needed to be addressed the applicant turned it around pretty quickly I mean it wasn't a major list but they did address all those items that were detailed in the requirements so to that end the revised D EIS meets the scope that we set forth back for their environmental review they've addressed those items so we have two resolutions on for this meeting one accepts the D EIS and authorizes the planning department distribute it to involved agencies and make it available for public review. We have a resolution on that. We'll schedule a joint public hearing. That public hearing will encompass both the site plan, the subdivision, as well as the DEIS. Combined hearings are actually something that's encouraged under SECRA, rather than have three separate hearings for a DEIS. Do you run them concurrently? So, yeah. Like close one, open one, close one? It would just be. Or do you close them all? It would just be. You would open. It would be a combined hearing. And, again, the purpose of it, obviously, you want to get comments on the draft environmental impact statement, but they're all comments on the overall development. So, I mean, it's somewhat difficult to separate the subdivision from the site plan, but it would just be one public hearing. Okay. So, if the citizens had valid points, we can still add them at that time? Well, yeah. So, the purpose of the draft environment. The document will be available for public review. Public can comment on the draft EIS. All of those comments would then be, you know, we would record them. Is there a time limit? On the. On comments coming back. So, yeah, we have. I can double check. There is a time frame. I mean, when you deal with SECRA, you are under specific time frames, which is why the resubmitted DEIS. We were under. We were under a time frame to, you know, review it. Yeah. Let me just double check. I don't want to get my. Yeah.

And Greg, the new DEIS has the building. But yes. Yes. I mean, it addressed. That was one of the comments that we identified as being deficient. So, it does have the. It does have the reoriented building that kind of oriented in a north to south direction. So, the draft EIS public comment period. Minimum 30 days. I mean, again, so this, you know, we will have a. We accept the document. The public hearing would be scheduled for the first meeting in September, which I believe is 70. September 4th. The hearing needs to take place 60 days after filing of the draft EIS, which we're within that. [transcription gap] so we'd have the public hearing and then the applicant would prepare the final eis okay on the have they given any alternatives so yeah the alternatives are in the in the draft environmental impact statement uh one of the alternatives was a reduced density plan that complies with uh article six you know sanitary density regulations uh one of the alternatives was essentially taking the proposed building and kind of rotating it 90 degrees so that the residential wings face north to south instead of having a you know residential wing right on middle country road uh so those were the alternatives that they looked at okay i'll look at them thank you for this copy yeah i mean we'll get i'll get ones you know like i have we i get it digitally i get it flash drives but before i had the applicant print off you know a ton of these they do need to make one revision which they've made it's basically essentially a typo but we can get physical copies if you like with all the appendices that show up so september 4th would be the public hearing yes let me just i will confirm that i believe it's september 4th the first meeting in september so yeah september 4th someone's gone someone's gone just like that anything else guys no i'm good good nothing okay thank you greg uh number seven seacrest estates villas at run oak with greg again what kind of changes we're making on our fence so this is just this was a proposed modification to the fencing um for the proposed recharge basin uh the fencing now is just really going to encompass the ponding area i had both vinnie gaudiello review the proposed fencing design as well as mike zaleski the highway superintendent as this road would be potentially dedicated to the town they were both fine with the amended fencing location um i wasn't sure if i even really needed a resolution but some material uh chain link fence there there are standard you know there's there's standard requirements that are detailed in our town of red road and drainage standards so it's a uh chain link fence uh just modifies the location again just to keep the record clear just a resolution to approve the modified fencing but vinnie and mike are both good with it greg when i walked it um there's no way just leaving a natural um you know recharge basin because there's a now if a roadway is going to be dedicated dedicated to the town it absolutely needs to be fenced okay because you have wetlands just to the west of that yeah just okay good yep very good kenny good okay um okay at this point in time we're going to talk about public comments on resolutions okay not seeing any takers let's go into resolutions uh resolution number one okay good resolution 71 sandy pond links trade shops managers restaurant clubhouse bringing the preliminary site approval so moved second moved in second mr zelnicki yes mr hogan yes mr nero hi mr bear yes and i vote aye the motion carries i'll move resolution number 72 accept the deis for site plan and subdivision for tjoc holdings second moved in second mr zelnicki yes mr hogan yes mr nero hi mr bear yes and i vote aye the motion carries i'll move resolution number 2025 73 tgos tjoc real estate holdings llc resolution to schedule a combined public hearing on the major subdivision application so moved second moved in second mr zelnicki yes mr hogan yes mr nero mr bear yes and i vote aye the motion carries resolution 2025 074 sea crest the state resolution approving a amended site amended fencing layout for a recharge basin at the site of the approved major subdivision so moved second moved in second mr zanicki yes mr hogan yes mr nero hi mr bear yes and i vote aye the motion carries I move resolution 2025 74 Seacrest Estates no next one well I know five do those four on mine okay okay five I'm formally known as villas at Roanoke approving and no no no next iceberg is Bauer is though oh sorry sorry all right see Cresta States I mean excuse me well whisper were residents 219 granting approval for the amended amendment to 2019 I'll second it yeah that's resolution 75 moved in second mr. Zanucki yes mr. Hogan yes listen in arrow mr. bear yes and I vote either motion carries six okay I'll move resolution number 76 you classifying is a type 2 action part of sequence and schedule a public hearing for two bluffs drive second move in second mr. Zanucki yes mr. Hogan yes listen an arrow mr. bear yes and I vote either motion carries I'll move resolution number 20 25 0 7 7 Polish wall parking lot improvements resolution granting admitted straighted site plan approval for the site plan application as amended so moved second moved in second as amended mrs. Zanucki yes mr. Hogan yes mr. Nannerow mr. bear yes no I vote either motion carries good luck 20 25 0 7 8 baconic farms LLC minor subdivision resolution to classify a 4-lot subdivision applicant application as a type 2 action pursuant to secret second moved in second mrs. Zanucki yes mr. Hogan yes mr. Nannerow hi mr. bear yes and I vote aye so moved in second mrs. Zanucki yes mr. Hogan yes mr. Nannerow aye mr. bear yes and I vote aye yes mr. Nero mr. bear yes and I vote either motion carries I'm over that resolution number 20 250 79 summer wind farms LLC major subdivision resolution to retain okay okay ma as traffic consultant for the traffic engineering assessment so moved second moved in second mr. Zunicki yes mr. Hogan yes mr. Nero I mr. bear yes and I vote yes to motion carries okay yes sir did we do to number 77 yes yes yes we put the foot because we amended the Polish yep thank you okay public we finished that right yes 79 someone okay public comments on all matters not seeing any hands we have no minutes of the meeting as of yet Greg no secret actions sir other business correspondence staff everybody's good all right our next meeting will be Thursday August 7th at 6 p.m. we have a motion to close the meeting so move move this second all in favor all right all opposed motion carries have a great weekend everybody clear head head head [transcription gap] head head head head head head [transcription gap]