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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. you start i have a plan in front of me from april of 23. is that still the same plan that is not the current plan no we the current the current plan is is up on the screen uh and we submitted that i remember what the date uh november of 2023 it looks pretty much the same it looks the same it pretty much is yeah okay um okay so as was indicated previously the um oh i apologize uh angelo lano vhb one offices at 100 motor parkway hop hog um i'll run through quickly what the site plan the layout of the site plan is the site is approximately 130.9 acres and it's currently home to a sod farm it's bordered to the north by middle country road to the east by more agricultural land as mr archer said to the west by splish splash water park and to the south by uh by the long island expressway uh the proposed uh subdivision consists of seven lots three of those lots are developable a lot are proposed to be developable uh lots one through three are 36.35 35.38 and 17.41 acres respectively lot four which consists of 4.73 acres is allocated for a proposed sewer treatment plant which will service the proposed development excuse me lot five uh is approximately 24 20.4 acres located at the southeast corner of the site which is proposed to be dedicated open space it will remain undeveloped and completely vegetated following development lot six on the subdivision map is the common area for the proposed development which consists of the rights of way uh the proposed recharge basin for stormwater management um and and again any other common area that that uh is not going to be uh what's going to it's not going to be within the developable lot area and then lot seven which is shown approximately in the center of the site is um approximately four acres an area which we'll i'll talk about again in a few minutes uh which we're indicating for the potential future development of a riverhead water district well site um access to the proposed subdivision will be off of middle country road and the main entrance would be located approximately 100 feet from the western property line There will be a main road A that snakes through the site and a small connector road B. Both roads will terminate with a cul-de-sac that will be designed in accordance with the town subdivision regulations as well as the New York State Fire Code for emergency vehicle maneuverability. In addition, there's a proposed secondary emergency egress on the eastern side of the site where there will be an access easement that runs down lot 1 that would, again, be just used for emergency vehicle access only. All lots, as shown on the subdivision map, are anticipated to be developed in accordance with the new CI code, as Mr. Archer had mentioned. Each lot will meet the required front yard, rear yard, and side yard setbacks, and there will be landscape buffers provided around each one of those lots as required by the code. With regard to stormwater management, the current plan has been designed to capture 8 inches in accordance with the town regulations for the proposed common area, which again are the rights-of-way and the stormwater recharge basin, as well as portions of the front yards of the proposed lots. It's assumed or it's anticipated that each lot, as it's developed, will manage its own stormwater, so that'll all be subject to site plan once those lots are... we have proposed developments for each one of those lots. Thank you. Thank you. Excuse me. As I mentioned earlier, an STP is proposed, a sewage treatment plan is proposed to handle sanitary runoff from the proposed development. All that will be designed in accordance with the Suffolk County Department of Health Services and DPW. And then again, regarding water, there is currently no water available to this property. It's sort of, the Riverhead Water District straddles the property. There is infrastructure to the east and the west. Um, we worked with the town's consulting engineer, H2M. They provided a map and plan, which indicates that there is a potential to bring water to the site via water main extensions. And then again, the potential for a new well site, which the applicant is showing on their subdivision plan in order to work with the town and provide that property for that development. That concludes my presentation. I'll answer any questions if anybody has any. Thank you.

So, as Angelo indicated, the we don't show any buildings because this is just subdivision. What happened was that, um, as a result of the moratorium, whatever marketing efforts were being made, we really stopped. We just really can't market in the middle of a moratorium. So, as we go further down, you know, there'll be site plan application, one or more site plan applications. Um, so, probably the best, best next idea is for Dave Wortman, um, also from BHB, um, from prepare the DEIS. We have supplemental EIS, um, to just quickly run through how, how comprehensive it is because it was very comprehensive. Um, there was public scoping. So, there was a, um, scope adopted by the, by the planning board. Right? Um, so, this is a very, very comprehensive DEIS. And David will basically go over that briefly. Thank you, Keith. Uh, good evening, Mr. Chairman and members of the board. My name is David Wortman with BHB. I'm their Director of Environmental Services. Our offices are at 100 Motor Parkway and Hop-Hop. Um, as Mr. Archer mentioned, uh, BHB was retained to prepare the draft environmental impact statement as well as the draft supplemental environmental impact statement for the proposed, uh, subdivision that's in front of you tonight. Um, as Keith also mentioned, um, there was, uh, a, uh, opportunity for public scoping as part of the preparation. And it's also for public uses. So, it's for public uses. And it's for public uses. And it's for public uses. And it's for public uses. And it's for public uses. And it's for public uses. And it's for public uses. And it's for public uses. And it's for public uses. And it's for public uses. And it's for public uses. And it's for public uses. And it's for public uses. And it's for public uses. community facilities traffic of course air quality and odor related concerns noise aesthetic resources cultural resources and impacts on energy and climate change the DEIS also analyzed three alternatives to their impact including the no action alternative so that the Planning Board can make an informed decision you know what would be the impacts of those alternatives how do they compare to the azerite subdivision we're proposing after the moratorium was adopted and the comprehensive plan update adopted and the subsequent zoning amendments were made by the town our site was rezoned that affected the development potential of the site as mr. Archer explained a significant reduction in the yield essentially and what that prompted on the part of the applicant was to submit the subdivision map that's in front of you today it very closely resembles that which was proposed under the industrial a however the build out of those parcels is affected by things like increased buffers the uses were modified as part of that change in the zoning that the town initiated and so forth and so what the draft supplemental environmental impact statement did was it took another look at each of those impact issues I just described and explained what does it mean in terms of this new zoning in virtually all conditions that meant that the impacts would be significant and that the development potential of the site would be similar such as the development you know occupies the full site the area of open space that would be created as part of the subdivision is similar the sewage treatment plant is considered as part of this both instances but in a number of quantifiable environmental impact categories like how much sanitary waste would be generated how much traffic would be generated those impacts were substantially reduced accordingly based on the zoning change that the town made in summary the document was the original DEIS had been reviewed by the town's planning staff as well as its professional consultants at Sam Schwartz once that went out to for public comment and the positive declaration was issued requiring this supplemental that supplemental document had also been reviewed by the town's planning department and deemed adequate for public review and this period is really meant to receive comments from the public and involved agencies on those documents so that they can each be addressed and the final environmental impact statement and the applicant team stands ready and looks forward to addressing each of those in coordination with the town if you have any questions about the secret process or the documents and I'd be happy to answer this okay I just have a couple of questions please lot six what size is a lot six how many acres in lot six that wasn't given okay and lot seven which was possible for the water district to put a waterwell in what cost is that to the town of Riverhead gotta speak it to Mike oh it's public hearing lot seven so yeah is that any cost of the town of Riverhead a to obtain the property. I don't believe that has been worked out yet. I think the, and Keith can correct me if I'm wrong, I think the applicant is willing to allocate that land to the town, but I don't know whether that's worked out completely yet. No, we haven't, there is a map and a plan that was done by H2M. We haven't really solidified all of the details. Again, we submitted the application, moratorium came, so zoning changes occurred, so that we're just really now revisiting it. So I don't have an answer for you tonight on that. Male Speaker 1 All right, and one other question on the square footage that you guys are needed. How much is it, total square footage? Male Speaker 2 So the way the environmental impact statement based, because there is not a specific site plan associated with any one of these three parcels, we estimated a reasonable worst case build out scenario. So the square footage that was originally considered as part of the draft environmental impact statement under the industrial A was substantially reduced. Keith, you have the specific? Male Speaker 1 So originally under the industrial A, the maximum that they are was 0.4. That would yielded 1,627,559 square feet. With the change in the code and the maximum that they are reduced to 0.25 plus with TDRs 0.3, that's reduced down by 462,000 square feet to 1,164,000. At a maximum, that includes TDRs. So it would be even less if it was built at the 0.25 without TDRs. Male Speaker 1 Okay. And how many TDRs would you need? Approximately? Male Speaker 1 I haven't done that count. A lot. Male Speaker 1 Okay. Male Speaker 1 A lot. Male Speaker 1 The maximum you'd yield, I think, gets calculated at a rate of 1.5 thousand square feet. So if you're talking about hundreds of thousands of square feet, there's a large potential for the redemption of TDRs as part of the Male Speaker 1 So you'd be saving farmland and everything else? Male Speaker 1 Exactly right.

Male Speaker 1 Anybody from the public would like to speak? Male Speaker 1 Excuse me. Male Speaker 1 We have one more. Male Speaker 1 I have another question. Male Speaker 1 Oh, you have one more? Male Speaker 1 One more. Male Speaker 1 One more quick one? Male Speaker 1 Sure. Male Speaker 1 Okay. Male Speaker 1 There was a comprehensive traffic study done, traffic impact study by VHB. Aaron MacTay, also a professional engineer, is going to describe briefly the scope of that study findings and the mitigation that's been offered.

Aaron MacTay I'll try to be as brief as possible. Chairman, members of the board, Aaron MacTay from VHB, offices of 100 Motor Parkway in Highburg, New York. As Mr. Archer said, I'm a professional engineer and a, specifically a traffic engineer. VHB has prepared a detailed and comprehensive traffic impact study to evaluate the potential impacts of the transportation associated with this subdivision. As Mr. Wartman and Mr. Archer both alluded to, as a part of this process of preparing the full DEIS, this study was, the breadth of this study was subject to the scoping process. process, and the analysis that's contained therein was prepared in accordance with the final approved scope for the project, as well as traffic engineering standard practices and procedures. After preparing the study in accordance with the scope, it was submitted to the town, and it was deemed complete in review by the third-party consultant, I believe, as Mr. Wartman mentioned, Sam Schwartz. With respect to the findings of the TIS, again, purposes of brevity, I'm not going to go into too many details unless you have specific questions, but I will say that it was a robust study network. It incorporated the peak periods and times of years that would be associated with the proposed subdivision, and ultimately concluded that the proposed development would not have a significant negative impact on area traffic conditions with the implementation of certain mitigation measures. So as far as those mitigation measures are concerned, the most prominent feature will involve the site access located on Middle Country Road. To facilitate this access point, the application is proposing a traffic signal, as well as a widening along the property frontage on Middle Country Road, going from one lane to two lanes in the eastbound direction. This will help facilitate the flow of traffic into and out of the site without resulting in significant impacts to the east-west throughput on Middle Country Road, which is an obvious priority considering the overall roadway network. Additional mitigation we identified were improvements at Middle Country Road and Splish Splash Drive slash Manor Road, which would provide additional lanes eastbound, westbound, and southbound, as well as an additional eastbound right turn lane at the recently reconstructed Middle Country Road and Edwards Avenue intersection. Again, that's all of those improvements are generally to preserve the throughput of traffic on Middle Country Road itself. Finally, the last piece of mitigation that we identified was the signalization of the eastbound off-ramp of the Long Island Expressway at Edwards Avenue. This will help to allow traffic to operate at acceptable levels of service after the project would be complete, and it would also help to improve safety and reduce travel speeds in the area. I think as everyone is aware, this is the first time we're seeing a traffic jam in the area. So, in closing, based on our detailed study, it's my professional opinion that the approval of this application and ultimate construction of the industrial subdivision would not have a negative impact on area traffic conditions, and I'm available and present to answer any questions that you might have. CHAIR BAILET. Thank you very much. CHAIR BAILET. Unless Board members have any questions, whatever comments we're going to receive from the Board members, we're going to keep the questions in the form of a short Q&A. CHAIR BAILET. comments we received tonight, that we received from staff, we will respond, as well as there were some additional comments previously made, we'll respond to those within the FBI House. Thank you. Anybody from the public would like to speak? Joe has a question. I have a question. Oh, I'm sorry, Joe. I just, I want to address the sewage treatment plant. The fact that you've got this lot four all the way down is probably the furthest point in the subdivision, realizing that, let's say, you develop lot one, you're going to have to put all utilities, sewage, sewer, et cetera, et cetera, all the way down there. I was just wondering if there wouldn't be a better place to put it. I think you had mentioned that before. I did. I just want to get it on the record. So, I think we understand that, you know, the, you try to put those types of things in places that are not visible to the public. So, we landed at that, at that corner of the site, and I think it's understood that that infrastructure would have to be put in if lot one is the only one that's developed, or it's developed. You have to put everything in. Yeah. Okay. Yep.

Anybody else from the audience like to make a comment? Hi. Good evening. Takvi Turchin, Greater Calverton Civic Association President. It's good to see you tonight. One very large thank you to not only this board, but your predecessors, and you specifically, Chair Densieski, that you listened to us, and a few years ago when we needed you to take a look at the potential build out of Calverton with warehouses that didn't suit our area, you worked with us, and you were very stalwart in your position to install a moratorium, which is not taken lightly. And in the interim, we were able to work through the comprehensive plan and rezone many areas of Calverton that would have otherwise been more densely used, and for purposes that were not congruent with our neighborhoods. Tonight, my question, my request is that the 1100 page DEIS that you probably have come up with, I think it's the D-I-S, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. recognizing that you needed a supplemental, we're asking that you keep the record open for public comment for the next 30 days, which tends to be standard practice. We're hoping that you would accept that. Thanks so much. Thank you. Anybody else? Anybody on Zoom? We have people on Zoom. I don't know if they want to speak or not. If you want to answer. Okay. If anybody's watching on Zoom, if you want to speak, raise your hand now and we'll identify you.

Okay. Nobody else from the audience? Gentlemen? I have a question.

Since we don't know the actual build-out, we had discussed some time back about access to the Long Island Expressway westbound. Where is that at? That's not been mentioned here. It was. That's an Aaron McTay response. It was considered in the traffic study. And I think Aaron's probably the best person to respond to that.

So in terms of that connection, if you look at the development plans that were prepared at the time that the Long Island Expressway was constructed, which I have in front of me right now, there was never any intent to extend what would essentially be a service road. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right.

that would stand in the way of that connection being granted and being constructed. So the undertaking would be monumental in order to extend and, and essentially improve and essentially create like a an off ramp directly onto the long island expressway from the property it would probably involve the eminent domain taking of of some land it would probably involve another bridge uh over the long island railroad and um i'm not sure that there's an appetite at the new york state dot to entertain such an such a thing so all your traffic off the expressway would exit off of edwards avenue to get onto 25 and then into your it's complex but and then when you leave you would only head eastbound yeah it's it's not all of the traffic i mean that there you know as we as we look at travel times and we look at different ways that that people can come some people we assumed would would continue to the end of the expressway get off at the at the cloverleaf and some people would get off at edwards avenue we we assumed a split between both of them and we assumed a split between both of them and we assumed a split between both of them of them in terms of in terms of exiting right but when you exit the complex it would all be right hand right you can they can make you can go either way because we're putting it we're putting a traffic signal at um at the at the access in order to facilitate the left turn in keeping with that though is there any reason to to construct row b that's if that's not going to be a possibility why do you know it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it Mr. Gummer, what's your pleasure? Can I just make one comment? And that is with respect to keeping the record open. So the comment period has actually been open for two years. And I believe under the secret regs, it remains open for another 10 days, I believe. So, but again, it's in the discretion of the Board. Yeah, so secret does require, when a hearing is held, it does require the record be left open for a minimum of 10 days for submission of written comment. I did receive this request previously. I mean, I did note, you know, the draft EIS, which analyzed the more intense development, contains a bulk of the environmental review, has been on the website for nearly 22 months at this point. The draft supplemental really looked at what amounts to a significant reduction in those original impacts. Again, if the Board wishes to keep it open for 30 days, I just sort of went out here. That would put us to, you know, a minimum of 10 days. I would say, if you want to do that, I would just say 29 days until the close of business on the 5th. But that's at the discretion of the Board. Secret requires a minimum 10 days. You can compromise and keep it open for 15 days for written comment, if that's your pleasure. I agree. I agree. Okay. I'm going to give you, split the difference. All right. So that would put us for the close for submission of written comment to end of business on Friday, November 2nd. All right. Okay. What's your pleasure, gentlemen? I move we close the public hearing. Second. Second. And leave it open for 15 days. 15 days. 15 days. Mr. Zernicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. DeNiro? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. All righty. Moving into discussion items. Item number one is North Shore Sprinkle Supply. Matt, you're the one who's going to go first. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. All right. Matt, can you enlighten us? I just think I have the applicants represented their engineer. Come on in. For the record, Matt Charver, Senior Planner, Town of the Red Planning Department. The applicant's engineer is here. If you could just introduce yourself for the record. Good evening. My name is Jan Jorbs. I'm the Senior Planner of the Town of the Red Planning Department. I'm the Senior Planner of the Town of the Red Planning Department. I'm the Senior Planner of the Town of the Red Planning Department. Good evening. with the Independence Engineering company that designed together for this plan. So we have a site plan application before the board. This came as a result of violations from both the DEC and the town. An industrial building that's currently housing North Shore Sprinkler Supply at 1264 West Main Street, better known as Suffolk County Tax Patent No. 600-120-2.2. It is located within, I believe, the Riverfront Corridor Zoning Use District, which is within the New York State DEC Wild and Scenic Rivers area. So within that area, there are specific clearing restrictions and vegetation requirements. So the plan board first saw an iteration of this site plan back in 2016, where they approved a site plan. It was for a, originally they went to the ZBA for a special exception from a change from one not conforming use to another. This used to be a propane facility. It then went to a pod storage facility. After the site was built from your approved plan that came out in 2016, this tenant did go in, make changes. Obviously, come back to this board and get site plan approval to make those changes. And they also changed the use to another use that's not permitted within the zone. So they did that. They do require relief. I do have a summary of the approval history that's within my staff report. Pretty straightforward. It's that special exception. They also got front and side yard setbacks, some dimensional relief. There was an amendment in 2017 that approved as-built conditions. And the violations, I think, came from the DEC in 2023 and from the town in 2024. So what happened, if you can see on the plan here, originally, I will show you the original approved plan. So as the board can see, there used to be a much larger buffer in the front. Not a substantial amount of plantings, but as you can see, it goes here. It's on the sides and in the rear. And then this whole area used to be gravel paving. Since this tenant has been there, the site more or less looks like this now. So parking all along the front. Significantly, they've gone into all these buffers. This is the DEC-approved landscaping plan, which has all native plantings, which is a good thing. But if you can see, if the board can see my finger here, this dotted line are the original buffer areas that were approved by this board when they developed the site. My recommendation, which would be less relief at the ZBA, if they put those buffers back with the same kind of plantings that are in, is to have a more So in the original approved plan, they're not going to have to do that. They do need relief from the zoning board for impervious surface coverage. They're at 78% where only 25% is required. So in the original approved plan, it was gravel. That's back when gravel was not considered impervious. As we all know, it is impervious. And they'll need that special exception to go again from one not conforming use to another. So now it'll be to a wholesale sprinkler supply. That's pretty much the balance of my report. If you flip through, it kind of shows where those restoration areas are. Also, just one more thing I want to touch on was the Somebody's phone. Oh, it's John. Sorry. If you can see in some of the old aerials, there was a lot of outdoor storage that was happening on the property. It was all in the front. It was very tall. There are two nice sliding gates on either side. So a recommendation when it does come back to this board or the ZBA, don't see all the outdoor storage happening in the back. So we're not seeing it from the roadway. It'll be nice and screened. If you go behind the building or on the side, it's just behind those fence areas. It's an attractive building. They've done some of their It's clean. They've done their site work already in terms of getting those new plantings in. But I think there's a little bit more room for improvement. And if they're successful at the ZBA. Yeah, you're right about the sides in the front. Yeah. The rear goes up against the Long Island Railroad. I'm not that concerned about that. I think that's fair. Definitely in the front. Yeah, it is a nice, it's an attractive building. You know, they did a good job there. Any code changes? I mean, there's a fairly new buildings, but is there any code changes that would have to be met? In terms of? At this point? Anything changed? No. So the use is, unfortunately, the use is still not permitted. So they'll need that special exception again. But I don't have a lot of heartburn about this use compared. It's not terribly different from the pod storage area. I mean, this might have less people that go to it as a wholesale business, but they'll still need to get it legalized with the ZBA. You said that the site is paved? It's paved. Yeah. DEC is aware of it. I know it's specific in the Wild Seas and Rivers area that they do prefer that areas. They're aware of the gravel, but they're aware and did issue violations for the paving. So I think in with the DEC, they did acknowledge that. Yep. Matt, I agree with they can do a little bit more buffering on the sides. The asphalt, I don't mind instead of the gravel because when you're dealing with materials, you know, with a forklift, the gravel just doesn't work. Correct. But, of course, it should have come in front of the planning board or the planning department and they don't change it before you, you know, just go. Go ahead and do it. So there's a 50% natural vegetation requirement in the zone. Unfortunately, on the original approved plan, that was never quantified. So I'd like to see, based on including these buffers and this area in the front, how close we get to 50 to see if there's an additional relief that's required. Okay. I don't know if you had any questions for the board. If the board has any questions for the applicant. I know there's a lot of people here anxious to speak. I just have one ask. Okay. It's not required by law or anything. Yeah. I noticed you're handicapped. Parking is on the left-hand side of the zebra striping. I would just ask that if it could be moved over to the right-hand side. So if somebody with a handicapped van came in, the lift would open up into a spot that wasn't occupied by a car. Okay. Anybody else? Sounds good. All right. Pretty good. Can I say one thing? Yeah, sure. So the plan was approved by DEC this way with the additional dry wells in it, too. So. I've spoken to our client that they want to solve the issues. But the one thing, if they are reducing the pavement to what was previously proposed and what the dry wells that are currently existing are designed for, the one thing, and I think I mentioned it on the phone this morning with you, too, they would then look into not installing the additional dry wells because the existing ones would actually meet the requirements that were there before. So it's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's fine. It's reasonable. If the town engineer approves and the DEC doesn't have a problem with it, I think that's very reasonable. Did he just say you're going to remove some? No. No. Oh, okay. So based on the additional disturbance that they did, Joe, they had to upgrade the dry wells because they essentially went property to property line. But if we reduce, the existing system should capture everything. Okay. So as long as our town engineer is okay and DEC is okay, I think that's fine. Okay. Very good. No action tonight, but we'll be back. Very good. Okay. Discussion item number two. Brother Bear Canada Greenhouse with Greg. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go.

If we could just get your names for the record, please. Sure. Larry Davis, 175 Elk Street, Patchhawk, New York. I'm the attorney for the applicant. Jerry DeMauro, DeMauro Engineering and Surveying, 20 Mariposa Lane, Manorville, New York. Welcome. Thank you. So, again, Greg Bergman, Senior Planner with the Riverbend Planning Department. So, we've received a site plan application which is seeking to construct a one-story, approximately 33,000 square foot greenhouse with related improvements including an asphalt parking area, new IA, sanitary waste water management system, site lighting, drainage, and related mechanical equipment. Improvements will be made to the existing driveway to meet town standards for two-way traffic. There are two on-site irrigation wells proposed for the agricultural use. Subject property is low. Located at 1458 Middle Road in Calverton, New York and more particularly described as Suffolk County Tax Map number 600-100-2-37. The property is located within the town's Agricultural Protection or APZ Zone Use District. And it is also located within Riverhead Water District Extension number 70. The property is presently improved with an existing single family residence as well as two barns. And take access via an existing gravel driveway on the north side of Middle Road. Located approximately 680 feet east of the intersection of Deep Hole Road and Middle Road. Surrounding area is a mix of residential uses with numerous detached single family residences to the west including the Deep Hole Road at Bainey Hollow Major Subdivision as well as several 55 and over residential communities including Windcrest East and Foxwood Village which are located to the east and the south respectively. The property is boarded directly on its eastern and northern side by a 41-acre parcel. Which is currently owned by the town of Riverhead. That was purchased from the Walter Koblanski Revocable Trust in November of 2008 using community preservation funds. So that parcel to the east and to the north of the existing site is owned by the town and is used as open space. In terms of secret, the proposed action is a type 2 action pursuant to secret as it involves agricultural farm management practices. Including but not limited to construction, maintenance and repair of farm buildings and structures. And land use consistent with... Principles of farming. No further environmental review is required pursuant to secret but there are items throughout the site plan that I'd like to address and get before the board. Regarding the agricultural protection zoning use district and cannabis cultivation. Pursuant to Riverhead Town Code Section 301-36A1. Agricultural production is permitted within the APZ zoning use district. While greenhouses are permitted upon parcels with a minimum lot size of 5 acres. Pursuant to Town Code 301-36A1. Pursuant to Town Code 301-36A1. Site plan review and approval is required from the planning board for temporary and permanent greenhouses pursuant to Town Code 301-304A1. Pursuant to New York State Ag and Markets Law Article 25 AA Section 301. Cannabis is defined as an agricultural crop when cultivated in accordance with the cannabis law. Thus permitting the cultivation of cannabis within the APZ zoning use district. New York State Cannabis Law Article 1 Section 301. The cannabis law defines processor as a licensee that extracts concentrated cannabis and or compounds blends extracts infuses or otherwise manufacturers concentrated cannabis or cannabis products but not the cultivation of the cannabis contained within the cannabis project. New York State Cannabis Law Article 1 Section 301. Sale for Sale for Sale for Sale for

retail establishment. The applicant did provide the Office of Cannabis Management license information. They do have a valid cultivation license, processing license, and distribution license. This application currently requires two variances from the Redstone Board of Appeals. One of them is the proposed woven wire deer fence at eight feet in height, where the maximum permitted height is six feet, and the other is for the proposed impervious surface coverage at 24.04%, where the maximum permitted is 15 feet. This application was before the Zoning Board last month. It was punted back to the Planning Board for our review and comment, so they do have that application that is currently pending. It was adjourned with the ZBA. In addition to site plan approval and Zoning Board, they will require approval of some of the Suffolk County Department of Health Services, Town of Riverhead Highway Department, as well as the Town of Riverhead Water District. So, regarding odor control, the application proposes a fully enclosed greenhouse structure with sealed climate-controlled HVAC to minimize or eliminate odors from the cultivation operations within the building. I would like to just see specifications on the units that are to be provided, such as maintenance details on this, how often filtration filters need to be replaced. Were there any operations locally that have that now for odor? That, so does the, the applicant has, as I understand, they have several other cultivation sites. I don't believe any in New York, but they are. They do have these types of operations in other states. And kind of coupled in with the odor control systems and the HVAC systems, the, you know, the proposed mechanical equipment, which you see on the pads located on the outside of the building, you know, they do obviously have the potential to generate some noise. So, I would like to see details on the anticipated noise levels from those structures. The plan does currently propose a five-foot tall CMU or concrete masonry unit wall along the south side of the greenhouse to, you know, hopefully mitigate any noise from that bank of equipment. There's nothing proposed on the east side of the property, and the CMU wall just goes up to here. So, again, I really would like to just see details on the noise levels from those structures. So, I would like to see details on the noise levels anticipated from this in order to determine if that's going to be adequate mitigation. Greg, I have a question. Yes. Do they have any type of a standby power unit in case the power goes down? Because then all the HVAC won't be useful if there's no power. Yes. There's two generators on site, yes. And what about the sound on those? Are you going to be looking into how many decibels those will be? I would like to address the sound issue in a little more detail. I don't know if now is the appropriate time. Okay. Yeah, I mean, that's fine. I'd rather just hit over on that discussion. Okay. All right. First thing regarding that CMU wall, upon further investigation of the units, we determined that the noise source is about eight and a half feet above the ground level. So, those CMU walls will have no effect on that noise. So, that's going to be removed from the plan. Currently, there's a facility that was just constructed with these exact same units in the same quantity in Maryland. And we're going to have an acoustical engineer determine what the sound emanation from these units in the vicinity of the building at various distances, what that actually will result in as the sound drops off as distance goes away, make that analysis, and then determine if additional noise mitigation is necessary. What we're considering for that is a 12-foot high. SIP panel wall, which is known to mitigate sound by approximately 35 decibels, according to the manufacturer's spec. The questions regarding those SIP panel installations mainly concerned the wind, wind pressures on them, and making sure that design properly for that, and also how that might be affected by the town's limitation as to fence heights. So, we may have... We may have to connect those to the building somehow, you know, which could work in our favor for both connecting them to the building and providing additional lateral support for wind loads. So, this is just something that's just recently come up in the last couple days, and we are going to look into that. Will they be propane powered? I don't think there's natural gas up there, the generators. The generators... Gasoline, propane, natural gas. You know, I believe gas. I think it's gasoline. I don't know. I didn't design that part of it. Just so you understand, I'm the site engineer. Usually it's diesel. There's a facilities engineer there. Usually it's diesel. That's, I think, the most likely, yeah. And then there'll be diesel tanks on the property and also, correct? I haven't been informed of that, and I know that they... I believe that... We'll have a contract with somebody to bring a diesel truck on site if necessary. I think that's their current plan for that. I don't think they're going to have to store any diesel on site. At least I haven't been told of that. But the generators would have them loaded because they're on site. If you need more diesel, you can always have it loaded. I think that's what their plan is, yes. So, that's something we'll obviously... Again, this is the initial presentation. This plan will obviously... change based on planning board recommendations, staff recommendations, depending on how those generators, if they're diesel, if there's a certain amount of storage, that'll also require health department approval for the storage. So, I would just, again, make sure the applicant's going to take notes and we'll come back with a revised plan. In terms of the exterior lighting, the site plan provides... shows exterior pole-mounted lighting, but doesn't really identify heights of fixtures, types of fixtures, color temperature, mounting height. It's just... It's just a matter of time. So, they need to revise the lighting plan. Yeah, quick question about that. Is the inside of the greenhouse lit for, like, artificial light for growing? Yeah. I'm sorry. I was just taking notes. Inside the greenhouse, is there artificial lighting? There is artificial LED lighting, yes. LED lighting for growing the plants? Yes. Really? We had a discussion. We had a meeting with the applicant on these plans last week. It's my understanding the growth cycle on this is basically 12 hours a week. 12 hours of light and 12 hours of dark in cases. And we've learned this from the Maidstone Landing site when they started growing cannabis up there. There was the issues with sky glow when the LED lights were on. So, there is a canopy that is going to be installed within the growing portion of the greenhouse. So, in the event that it's dark out and those LED lights are on, there's going to be a retractable screen that comes in, that'll screen, you know, and contain any of that light that's... So, it's not going to be a glow... Correct. You're not going to see, like, a big, you know, light up, a green light. Right, right. Not at all, as a matter of fact. They fully cover the lighting. And then, obviously, during the day, when they retract the screens, they can use the natural sunlight for the growing operation. That's how that's handled. So, there will be a light screen that will be retracted during the operation when the LED lights are on. As I said, they do propose the 8-foot deer fence. The plan was revised. They do... I did recommend it was originally proposed on the property line. They now show this gate setback. It's a gate setback into the driveway, so, you know, a vehicle can turn off of the... turn off a middle road and not stop in the middle of the road while the gate's open. The landscaping plan does provide a significant planting plan around the perimeter of the facility, including 121 green giant arborvitaes, 29 Norway spruce, 26 Colorado blue spruce, 19 Japanese cedar, as well as several river birch, boxwood, and dwarf Alberta spruce, within the fence line. There's a landscaping area here. It just helps screen the view of someone driving down a middle road. They'll see a landscape area instead of the greenhouse. Regarding wetlands, there is a town of Riverhead freshwater wetland identified as wetland number 2405, which is also New York State DEC freshwater wetland R37. The plan shows it. It's off-site. It's located just to the northwest of the subject property here. The plan... It's located just to the northwest of the subject property here. The plan identifies 225 feet from the wetland to the closest point of the proposed greenhouse, thereby rendering the greenhouse outside of the jurisdiction of the town's Conservation Advisory Council. I do just want to see an updated line just to clarify if there's any grading that takes place within the town's 150-foot jurisdiction. If there's no ground disturbance within that 150-foot jurisdictional buffer, CAC approval is not required. And I do... Seeing that it is a DEC freshwater wetland and the DEC recently updated its freshwater wetland regulations, I would just recommend that the applicant make an application to the DEC to see if there's any approvals required from them or if they're able to obtain a letter of non-jurisdiction. I did refer the application to the fire marshal. I did get some comments back recently, as well as from the town engineer. It was referred to the Planning Commission as well as the Water District, waiting for comments back on them. So right now, that's the initial presentation. I think we've sort of addressed the... I want to get ahead of the border control, the noise. What security measures are you going to take? Do you know? The security, I think they mentioned there's going to be 93 cameras. There's an IT room, which will record all those feeds. I do not believe there's going to be any 24-hour... security on site, you know, actual people there.

Beyond that, I don't... I'm not sure. That's more of a facility thing, unfortunately. What's the house going to be used for? Is it going to be a residence or an office? It'll be used for office space. Space? Yes. No, no. Yeah, so that... It's not going to be used for office space. The residence can remain as a residence. There's no real limit on the number of permitted uses on a property, but it can only... It's not going to be used for office space. It can only remain a residence. It can't be used as office space. So it could be rented out, Greg, to anyone? It could be rented out. I mean, it could be rented out if employees of the operation want to live there. It can only be a single-family residence. All right. So you're going to get more information on noise and odor control and border to planning? Okay, odor control, this is a completely sealed facility. All of the HVAC units have carbon... activated carbon filters on them. They don't... In other facilities similar to this, there's never been any odor that emanates from the sites, even in close vicinity to the building. I believe you, but I still think we need the information so staff can review it. Sure. You know? Yeah. Well, I have... Yes, I have notes, specifications on the units, the filters and stuff like that. Okay. I have that noted. And as far as noise control, yes, I'm going to either personally... look into that, going down to Maryland and taking a look at this, or having an engineer in the area down there take a look at it, depending on what my schedule is and what can be done. But that will be looked at, yes. Question on the 8-foot deer fence surrounding the property. Yes. If the building is fully secured with cameras, why would you need an 8-foot deer fence? There's no proposal of outside plantings, is there? Yes. We have... A bunch of landscaping proposed in order to... In a couple of years, it'll fill out and prevent... No... Any view of the building and the facility from the road or from the surrounding... No marijuana plants outside the building? None whatsoever, no. This is a fully inside-the-building operation. How large is the facility in Maryland? How large... How large is it? I saw only a picture of it, and it's comparable to this. There were... I saw about a dozen of these HVAC units similar to this lined up outside the building. I don't know the exact square footage. How long has it been operational? It's brand new. I think months. Months. Do you have any operations that have been open for some period of time? Yes, there are operations, but I'm not aware of them. I know there's one in Massachusetts, and there's a couple in Colorado. The reason I'm asking... The question is the possibility of getting reports from the area, if there's been any negative reports about the facility, just so that we can look at it that way. I mean, if there's been issues, we'd like to know it now.

Also, a question from the one-story dwelling. Is there a... What's the footage between that and the paved area? The back of the house to the paved area. If you have a residence there, he's got no backyard. The house faces to the east. Well, it's... Walking this way. South to north, right? It's probably five, maybe ten feet. I mean, it's not a significant distance there, but there's... Is there a minimum, Greg, from a house? No. There's not? No. Just to get back to the HVAC again, if you don't mind. Usually, like a building this size with the HVAC, it has a fresh air intake. Otherwise, it's just recycling all stale air. What's there to prevent that if, for some reason, the power did go down for any type of odor leaking out through the fresh air intake? Is there some type of a fail-safe system? I can tell you that there's redundancies for every HVAC unit for every room in this building. If a unit goes down, it automatically brings up the backup unit. So, the chances of two units serving the same grow room, the same area, both going down at the same time... I mean, can I say it could never happen? No. There is some possibility, I guess. Lightning strikes two units at the same time, but it would be something like that. You know, the probability would be something like that. A lightning strike. Other than that, if a unit goes down, that shuts off, seals up, and then the other unit immediately goes into operation. That's why you see pairs of these units. You can see that here. There's a pair, pair, pair, pair. Those are redundant units. I have a question about the water supply. I noticed that you have one for fire and one for portable water. Portable water, yes. And you go into the... You have a spot here for the bus connection. Yes, in the building. What's missing is where is the... Where is the... Where is the water supply going from there? You have a nice picture of the sewage treatment line out to the street, but there's no showing where the water supply goes. Okay. There is a room inside the building where those lines terminate, where you see that arc these... Yes. There's a room, and that is the room that contains... Not only the RPZ, but it contains the valves and piping to direct it to different parts of the facility, including the... Most importantly, the fertigation room, which is where it's mixed with dry chemicals and then distributed to the plants. And that's right next door to that. That's just south of it in this area here. But the fertigation room, is that going to be utilizing the irrigation well, or is that... That's not using town water, right? No. No, it's not connected. Okay. Okay. Okay. Oh, no. It's just... I think the member Bayer is just asking, you know, basically, the potable water... We don't typically see this type of detail on a site plan. You know what I mean? Usually, it'll show the water from the main... Right. The main out here to the RPZ. Once it's there, I mean, I'm assuming it's just the potable water will go to the washrooms and the... I misunderstood your question. So, yes. So, you have a washroom, there's a sink, I think, and a kitchenette, and there's, you know, just whatever potable... And water is used. It's inside the building plans, and... And you have plans for two wells on the north side of the building? Yes. What kind of wells? What size wells? And any idea from the Board of Health if you're going to be able to... Those wells won't be much larger than a typical dwelling well, each of them. And the reason why there's two of them is for redundancy. If one well goes down, the other one kicks in. Now, that's for the irrigation of the plants? Yes. Do you circulate that water or not? Do you reuse it? I mean, you know, whatever falls on the ground, do you reuse that water? I think it's all collected and brought back to a processing which reuses it somehow. I think there's very little... Which is why those wells, you know, will only be using one at a time, and it only needs to have a very low flow because it's only for replacement water in the facility. Okay? Most of the water will go... Right, right. ...in the facility. Okay? Most of the water will go... ...in the facility. ...in the facility. ...collected and reused. Nothing is... The health department won't let us dump any of the water onto the ground... Right, right, right. ...or disperse it or anything. I mean, this is nothing like that. So, according to this drawing here, you have two tie-ins to the Riverhead Town water. One is a copper line, two-inch line for domestic water, and the other is for fire service for a sprinkler system? It's for a sprinkler system... Six-inch? Six-inch. Six-inch. That was recommended by the fire marshal in order to also service a fire hydrant that's going to be added to the facility. There is a fire hydrant on the corner of the property over here. So, will the building be sprinklered? Excuse me? Is the building going to be sprinklered for fire protection? Yes.

Yes. Got it? It's been there for a while. It's been there for a while. Okay. Okay. Thank you very much.

At this time, we'll accept public comments on resolutions. Anybody have any comments on resolutions?

Okay. Let's do resolutions, gentlemen. I'll move resolution 102, 305 West Main Street for the site plan and schedule a public hearing for the site plan. So moved. Second. Second. Second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zanicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. DeNiro? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. I'll move resolution 103, resolution granting secondary extension for the approval of minor subdivision of Bidson-Franken. Second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zanicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. DeNiro? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote yes. The motion carries. I'll move resolution number 2025-104, Richard Anderson Minor Subdivision. Resolution granting minor subdivision approval for the subdivision application entitled Richard Anderson Minor Subdivision. So moved. Second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zanicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. DeNiro? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. Resolution 2025-105, Thomas Anderson Minor Subdivision. Resolution granting minor subdivision approval for a minor subdivision application entitled Thomas Anderson Minor Subdivision. Second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zanicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. DeNiro? Aye. Mr. Baer? Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. Okay. At this time, we'll take public comment on any matters.

Hi again. Takwee Turchin, Greater Providence and Civic Association President. We'd like to speak to you briefly on the cannabis project that was just in front of you. We have packets for the board members and for... Yeah, if we can just give those to you. Sure. Those are initial concerns. And while those are being passed out, I'd like to just give a couple brief comments and then introduce someone to you. The Greater Calvary and Civic Association is very concerned in an obvious way. We recognize that this is not the first cannabis project in Riverhead. There are two others. This does look like it is a different animal. And it is definitely a concern because they are the epicenter of about 500 homes and the folks who live in them within a quarter-mile radius. So to that end, Calvary and Civic has created a committee of neighborhood leaders to keep people informed, to keep the information flowing to you in a cohesive and coordinated way. The folks that you see in the room tonight are those neighbors. Each one that you see in the... Obviously, there's 500 that are basically affected immediately. These people all represent more than just the people who are sitting in the seats.

To the extent that we'd like to coordinate our efforts, there is also a team within Windcrest East to keep that neighborhood on point because they are in close proximity and it's the largest development in close proximity. We would ask... I'm going to introduce someone to you from Windcrest East. Her name is Diane Guardiose. She's going to give a brief one-pager to you with our initial concerns. And our ask to you tonight, after listening to the proposed plan and understanding that there are multiple agencies that need to weigh in and there are studies that need to be looked at, our request is that you give us at least a 90-day window in order for us to... I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

the board my name is Diane Gaudi Osi I'm 80 years old and I live at 76 Golden Spruce Drive in the senior community of Windcrest East approximately 600 feet from the proposed facility I'm here representing 126 senior households many of us in our 80s and 90s and one who's 106 my mother I respectfully request that this board either denied this application or grant us a 90-day continuance here's why last Wednesday the applicants sent a professional team of six people to meet with our senior residents the presentation was highly technical and confusing most of our residents who are in the area are not in the area of the community of Windcrest East and are in their 70s 80s and 90s did not fully understand the technical jargon and aren't are now completely confused about what fact versus marketing spin we need time to retain qualified attorneys and independent experts who can evaluate applicants claims and present factual testimony to the board voting now while we are unprepared would deny us the opportunity to respond to the proposal and we are not in the area of the community of Windcrest East and 90s and 90s we are simply asking for the same opportunity any community would need to properly respond to such a significant proposal as you'll see in the handouts we have serious concerns first there are only about 12 feet of trees between their property and the senior community of a hundred and twenty six homes during winter when trees lose their leaves residents will have an unobstructed view of a large monstrous industrial factory building and I've seen pictures of of what they propose and it's really ugly the remaining area consists mainly of scrub or grass however the applicant site plan suggests that a dense line of trees exists between the properties which is missing leading if the site plan miss represents the tree coverage it raises concerns about the accuracy of other information provided second many of us have emphysema COPD and asthma and no health study has been done on the impact of cannabis odors on seniors with respiratory disease third property value studies show three to eight percent declines near-term sickness for Sale for Sale for Sale for Sale for Sale for Sale for Sale for Sale for Sale Sale for Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale urge this board either deny this inappropriate application or give us 90 days to prepare a proper response with expert testimony. Please don't approve this now while we're unprepared. I appreciate your time. Thank you so much. So I just want to clarify that it's not a public hearing today, so any information that's given up will be considered by the planning board, but it's not going to be put into a record. We understand that. There's no vote that's going to happen today, so the request for them to deny an application is not something that they can even do at this point. It was on just for discussion. So I just want everyone to be aware that there is no voting that's going to be taking place today on this topic. Okay. Bye. Ms. I liked everything you had to say, but we don't believe you're 80. July 7th. Ms. Hello, everyone. Now I'm on this side of the camera instead of the back side of the camera. I'm Larry Levy. I am the community manager at Foxwood Village, which is located just to the south of this proposed property. We have 244 units. It's a small property. It's a 55 and older community. We have a lot of concerns. We held our own meeting. I kind of explained the process of what's going on. We had our representatives over at Windcrest East when they did the presentation. And I thank you guys for addressing a few of the items here. You guys addressed the noise coming out of the facility because an awful hum throughout the day. And seniors, a lot of them don't use their air conditioners because they're always kind of cold. So you'll go into a house that's 90 degrees and they think that it's still cold. So the windows are open. So the noise could greatly affect seniors that, you know, sleeping in the evening. One of the things that wasn't addressed here was traffic noise coming in and out in the evenings. That's a big one. Ms. Yeah. I know that it's a cyclical type of growing process. So you're not going to have trucks all the time. But I also know the problems that Stop and Shop had with Glenwood. So I want to try to mitigate this. And is there some kind of can they operate at certain hours? Because hearing beep, beep, beep at 4 o'clock in the morning or with your windows wide open, is, you know, it's like an alarm clock going off. So that was one of the, you guys addressed the odor on that. I'm trying to find out where the closest facility is because I'm going to actually take a drive. My company said that I can go take a drive. I want to personally go and smell, listen, and really, you know, get a feel for it. Because, you know, if I go there and there's nothing. It's an agricultural use. I get it. You know. One of the things though here, and I want to give to you guys. You guys were talking about a one-story building. It is a one-story building. But it has a lot of height to it. So what I'm kind of asking, I know they're putting up that, or they're going for the variance on that eight-foot fence, which I hope gets approved. Because. This way the deer can't get in and eat what they're planting. So I'm all for that fence. What I am also for is mature, like and different. Something that's at least eight feet tall. Because when you're sitting in your car coming down the road and with the angle 20, 25 feet away on an eight-foot, you know, plant, tree. You're not seeing that. But anything that's going to be much lower than that, you're seeing the tops of that. And so the woman that was here just up before was talking about land values. Right? So land values are affected in a bunch of different ways. And so the greatest way that a land value could get affected, because I do sales in Foxwood as well. Is that. If I'm showing. A house to somebody. And they say, okay, you know, I love the house. And they go to put an offer in, say a full price offer on a $350,000 house. Right? Full price offer. And then they say, oh, by the way, on the way in, what was that that we saw? Those tall, you know, buildings over there. I have to. I can't. I have to be honest. You know, I can't mislead the public. So I have to say, it's a cannabis growing. And maybe they said. Oh, okay. I don't really care. You know, or they say, oh, no, no, I can't live here. So we lose that sale. And that's how it affects the market overall is, is, is not that it's going to all of a sudden. Decrease values by 8%. It's going to decrease the value because you lose that sale. And then, you know, 55 and older community, you have a limited pool that comes in. So maybe we don't see someone for three weeks, you know, or four weeks. Or maybe we see three weeks. Or maybe we see three weeks. Or maybe we see three or four people that come in. But that's not the house that they want. So now the house sits on the market for another month. And now the resident that could have sold it for 350 for the whole price offer now has to reduce their price to entice someone to come in. Reduces it by 10 or $15,000. And that's how it eventually affects the market. So, so kind of. And I noticed because I'm a real estate appraiser for 25 years. So I kind of know the impacts. It just doesn't happen overnight. It's a gradual little thing. Now, if no one ever notices it and there's no smell and you don't hear it, it's never going to affect. It's really not going to affect very much, you know, if they're a good neighbor like that. So just to safeguard a little bit, it's really about quality of life, you know, and, you know, affecting the seniors' quality of life. Some of these, these are their end homes. You know, they're not going anywhere. This is their final stop, you know. And I hate saying it that way. But, you know, then to make them very upset about their decision, you know, it's not like they bought next to an airport and it was existing. And now they want the airport to close. They bought in a farm type area, you know, a very rural area. And, you know, if it affects them like this. Right. If it affects them like this coming in, you know, it could be. But you guys, I've watched you guys for many, many years. And I know you guys do a great job. So that's pretty much the two real big points I wanted was the noise coming out of the facility with the traffic. And also so this way the facility is not seen. If it's not seen, no one knows what's back there. Thank you, Larry. Thank you. Good evening. Thank you for your time and attention for this. My name is George. I live at for green. Ash. In Win Crest. East. And I will assert to this for that. I am not. Eighty. Years old. This is your typical Wolfin. Cheap. Clothing. Right. So what we're being told. Is. This. An agricultural use. That. Is. Being. that is not zoned industrial. This is going to be a 24-7 operation that is going to have trucks coming in at least a minimum of every 52 days when the growth cycle completes, and those trucks are going to be large, as we were just told at Wincrest, trailer size. Now the roads over there don't handle trailer size. It's an eight-ton weight limit, not per axle, per vehicle. So that means they're going to have to bring in even more trucks to meet the standards of what the road can do and provide. This is going to be an ultimate effect on every single ounce of quality of life for those of us in Wincrest, for those of us across the street in Foxwoods, as well as the people that live right behind with little kids and families, right behind this facility that they're proposing to be built. This is not a farming action. This is an actual industrial plant that is going to have 25 employees, that is going to have impervious paved parking, and when you look over some of their site plans, they say that it's 231,000 square feet of total land, and that they're going to adjust, change, and manipulate over 120,000 square feet. They're going to change over 50% of this property that was a farm. Farms don't farm in the winter. This is going to be 24-7, 365. This is going to affect every single one of us, and it's not going to affect just the residents there. It's going to affect all the traffic that's on Middle East. It's going to affect the traffic that's on the road. It's going to affect the traffic that's on the road. It's going to affect the middle road, because a lot of people use that as a cut-through. This is going to impact our quality of life. Additionally, I'm going to say that, although not necessarily for this board, OCM has specific requirements and restrictions as it pertains to a cultivator's license. A cultivator's license is very specific under the new rules, under the statutes, which is provided under NYCRR 123.3, where no person shall be a true party of interest in more than one adult use cultivator license or in an adult use cultivator license and a cooperative, provided that a true party of interest in an adult use cultivator license may simultaneously be a passive investor. What that essentially means is that there is no cultivator license that can be granted for two facilities. The person that is currently in application here, which is an Akarsh Narang, that is the person that is on the process of service for Brother Bear Consulting, which is not the person who owns the property, which is 1458 Middle Road, LLC, which essentially has the same service of process license as Northern Limits Real Estate LLC, which is Upstate New York, which is Northern Limits Real Estate LLC, which is Upstate New York, which is Northern Limits Real Estate LLC, which is Upstate New York, which is Northern Limits Real Estate LLC, which is Upstate New York, which is currently cultivating cannabis. So the lack of clarity from the ownership, the multi-level coverage of LLCs to distract, divert and possibly subvert the licensing process, although not directly in front of the court, is certainly something I think that needs to be considered. Thank you.

Hello. Good evening. Hi. My name is Meredith Ritter. I have lived at Foxwood Village for the past 15 years and I don't have a lot of information to supply. These people who spoke before me gave you plenty to think about. I just want to let you know that I think I can speak on behalf of my neighbors at Foxwood, that we are as concerned as our neighbors across the street. We do recall things that have happened within our community that have caused a great bit of upset. Like Young's Avenue for one just recently. Scott's Point for another. The Cider House for another. Places, businesses that have been kind of a little bit sneaky and done things behind the town's back. I feel that if we go slow, easy carefully. I think it's important for people to consider.

take our time and make sure we're doing the right thing here and put in place the proper controls or regulations, I think everybody will come out of this much better. Thanks. Thank you.

Any other speakers?

Okay. One more, Ed. Right.

Hello. How are you? Christine Lynch. I live at 1508 Middle Road, directly next door to this property. Like Mr. Zulicki said, my biggest concern is what is the regulations and how far away it needs to be from our residential property. I had done a little research. I believe I read it had to be 1,000 feet within a town that had less than 10,000 people. I'm not 100% sure about that. But. As I have lived there my entire life, enjoyed sleigh riding, building snowmen, you know, like I said, I'm just concerned about this big industrial property right next to all of us residents. So, thank you. Thank you. Hey, Greg, can you spell out the process? Today is the first discussion. So. Just so that people have an idea. Today is just initial presentation before the Planning Board can act on or consider, you know, even scheduling a public hearing on this application. The applicant needs to complete their application with the Zoning Board. Whether or not they're successful with that application, the plans may or may not need to be revised and scaled down. Those plans, however, the ZBA goes through that process. We then come back for a follow-up discussion. I would hope at that point the applicant has addressed the concerns. We've raised regarding odor, noise, et cetera. At that point, if the. Sequel. Sequel. So, it is a type two action. You know, I mean, it does not require a full environmental impact statement. So, the, however they get through the ZBA, it's going to come back to the Planning Board. The Planning Board would then schedule a site plan public hearing on the application, which would be posted on the property, noticed in the newspaper for an opportunity for the public to, you know, comment on the application. And we haven't received any elevations. We don't know what the building looks like, or at least the Board hasn't. Yeah, so I, the, I do have elevations here. I mean, it does. Okay. You know, the images that Mr. Levy provided to you are an accurate representation. Again, the plantings, you know, the significant plantings around that, once those plants grow. Did you say they are accurate? Yeah. Really? Yeah. It is a greenhouse facility. It is a, we've never seen, the Board's never seen an application like this, looking at a purpose-built facility for cannabis cultivation. Throughout, you know, van de Wettering was an existing greenhouse, an existing, you know, horticulture operation. They sort of retrofit. This is something that's designed from the ground up, you know, with the cannabis cultivation in mind. So, there's going to be no action taken before this Board until the applicant finishes their ZBA process. At that point, if they need to resume, you know, they'll revise, they'll revise. If they receive the relief, the Planning Board would then schedule a public hearing. So, I believe the ZBA meeting was adjourned, I believe, until December. December 11th. December 11th. So, I mean, absolutely no action, you know, before, by the Planning Board would be taken at that point prior to the new year. So, there's plenty of time, you know, if residents would like to, you know, do their diligence and do the research. And again, by the next time we come to the Board, we're going to get some of the details on those HVAC systems, the noise, like the project engineer spoke about noise mitigation. We'll have that information, you know, before we do any sort of public hearings. Okay. Thanks, Greg. You're welcome. Hi, Tauke Church. And again, just for clarification from what Greg is telling us, it looks like the direction now is going to be, the next date will be December 11th with the ZBA? Yes. And then after, and then after that moment, depending on... Then it'll come back to the Planning Board. Right. So, at that point, will it be another discussion item? Yeah. Okay. I would say it's probably fair to say there's going to be no action by this Board until 2026. Is that fair? Okay. I would say there probably wouldn't be a public hearing at least until the new year. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's, I mean, just based on our posting and mailing requirements, I mean... Yeah. If the applicant received the necessary relief, if they come back at the second meeting in December to discuss follow-ups, again, there still wouldn't be a public hearing before the new year. Nothing is going to be rushed through. Just so you know. Thank you. Appreciate it. Okay. Thank you. My name is Kari McKillop. I'm in Cavelton on North Woods Road. Right around the corner. Thank you for the great questions you asked. I thought they were very pointed. I would just respectfully ask that the Board at some point ask the applicant for their OCM license number. And the specifics of the license. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. 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in an agricultural zone it could be housing for the employees yes that's a point to re look into thank you thanks anybody else okay uh can we do the minutes of the meetings gentlemen i'll move the minutes of october 2nd 2025 so move second mr zunicki yes mr hogan yes mr de niro hi mr bear yes motion carries i'll move the minutes of october 16 2005. second uh mr zelnicki yes mr hogan yes mr de niro hi mr bear yes and i vote aye uh greg no secret actions no okay any other business staff okay our next meeting is going to be thursday november 20th at 3 p.m i want to thank the audience tonight because you guys were had great questions and great points and you were very respectful to the board and to the speakers so thank you very much thank you thanks all for joining us thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you