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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. farm stand parking improvements to the existing barn and then the other agricultural barn, Suffolk County was good with it as submitted. They also went to Ag Advisory who reviewed the plan last week, and they were also good with the plan as submitted. So aside from the revisions that engineering wants, if the board has any questions. I just have two questions. The handicap, what is proposed for the walkway to the building? Because it can't be gravel for handicaps. Right. So that would be permeable paving. Okay. Yeah, the Suffolk County, the Farmland Committee would like to see more permeable paving instead of a hard asphalt or concrete. So we did find a spec that was permeable but also was successful. Just to give the board an idea, on sheet L900, if you want to slide that over so they can see it on the camera, they have their paving specifications or rather gravel specifications. So number three is the vehicular. That's for the parking area. And then two is the concrete unit pavers. And then one is the gravel pavement. That's like the regular walkway. And actually the core gravel vehicular references this standard here. It's the 5035 core. And then the 5035 is the gravel, which is ADA compliant. It's a honeycomb system. So that will be for the ADA, well actually the whole parking lot. So the ADA stalls will be compliant. And then the permeable pavers going up to the ADA ramp are also compliant. And what's nice is that they meet what Suffolk County wants in terms of permeable surfaces. Do you have a question, Judge? Yeah. So you're a vineyard. What are the, I'm curious as to what would be, what would be sold in the farm stand? Do you currently produce your own, is your wine being bottled? Are you bottling? So with this harvest, previously he was 100 percent wholesale. So we were selling to local vineyards. This year we were about 50-50, where I kept 50 percent of the grapes more or less. And Lenz is making that wine. So that will be sold almost entirely this coming year once it gets made in the next couple of years in bulk to any larger customers who want to buy that. And then the rest of the wine will be sold to local vineyards. The rest of the grapes will go to, as I said, local vineyards. So what's going to be sold in the farm stand could be non-alcoholic wine, could be the compotes, could be, you know, all the products from Long Island, including local farms. And the goal is to, this is a farm first, last, and always. So the way I see it, it's a way to bring people to the venue and to sample all the products from the North Fork. So do you intend to do any wine tasting? Yeah. We would sample products, yes. And then. Not a tasting? Not a tasting room. Correct. I'm sorry? But not a tasting room where it would be like a public assembly, like Bating Hollow Farm Vineyard, for example.

In the Suffolk County Farmland Committee approval on page six, item six, they speak to the sale of products. So it would include 60% of the items for sale derived from the crops on site. So finished wine, no or low alcohol wine, dried fruit, compote, it's not an exhaustive list. And then 40% can be Long Island food and beverage products. So. Okay. You can see other things that might not necessarily be a. So to enhance the tasting experience basically, right? Yes. And what kind of shrubs are you going to be putting in front of the parking along Tuttle's Lane? Did you have a? Landscape. Yeah. So, you know, we were thinking of, yeah, you know, we were thinking of, you know, we were thinking of, you know, we were thinking of, you know, we were thinking of, you know, we were thinking of, you know, we were thinking of, you know, at this moment we were thinking kind of more old growth trees and then, you know, some local shrubs. We haven't exactly selected, but something kind of low line. Right. It's not a visual barrier to any signage or yeah. Yeah. They did include a landscaping plan and a list. Unfortunately, this is not very clear. This was part of the Suffolk County Farmland approval, but they included like road buffer perennials and some shrubs. And a majority of them are native, nothing invasive, which is preferable in terms of a planting plan from a planning perspective. Okay. Anything else, guys? Well, we have a resolution on later, so stick around and good luck. All right. Item number two, Reeves Farm, lot 31 on 74 Tyler Drive. Matt, if you could bring us up to speed. All right. Whoever. Whoever. Whoever. Wherever you want. All right, for the record, Matt Tarr, Senior Planner for the town of Riverhead. Sean, if you could just introduce yourself. Sean Morrison. I reside at 38 Mill Pond Lane, East Moriches. I'm a local developer. Just finished completing a home on 74 Tyler Drive in Riverhead. I think 31, Lot 31. Lot 31. Okay, so this is a covenant amendment request for Lot 31 of the Reeves Farm subdivision. This was filed in the Southern County Clerk's Office back on May 3rd of 2002. When this board approved the subdivision back in the early 2000s, there were covenants and restrictions associated with the map, one of which was that the exterior of all dwellings and structures shall be ignited. Natural wood or other natural materials, i.e., brick, stucco, stone, and not paint, and no painting shall be permitted except paint may be used for the entrance door, exterior doors, and trim, railings, and columns. So as you know, this board is a land use board. We don't generally get into the design of the appearance of single family structures, siding material, roofing, paint, like stuff. Stuff like that is not even a permitted item through the building department. So this applicant is asking to amend the covenants associated with his lot. So he can essentially get a see how the house is constructed. He used cedar impressions, which, if the board's not familiar, it's to look like a cedar shingle. If you were driving by on the street, you probably couldn't even tell that it wasn't wood. Can't tell. Yeah. You don't happen to have a picture, do you? Absolutely. Yep. In the packet. Yep, I have it here. So a couple different things. This is a black and white. At the same time, this one just shows the rest of the neighborhood here. Almost every single house is not wood. I think there's only two houses in the whole neighborhood that have cedar siding. This is another house I actually developed. Same one. Got a seal on that one. This is the actual house that we're waiting for the seal on. So it's cedar impressions, which is vinyl. It's gray tone. The sides of the house are clapboard. I think I have some more photos of other houses I completed here. Give me a second. I like the tin roof over the garage. Yeah. So this is 201. I did this house, which is the same. I did a model two years ago. I don't get any complaints. It matches the neighborhood and the facade of everyone else. I have a seal on that. And then I have another one. But if we go back, I can show back the area over there. So this is 76. This is one I did. This was total clapboard, yellow tone, vinyl siding, board and batten up top. But again, it matches pretty much what everyone else was doing. I don't think anyone really realized that the plan was good. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. I think it was a good idea. appearance of houses, sizes, all that other stuff that an HOA would normally handle, but the town would not get involved in that. So, Matt, it wasn't the planning board back in 2002 that put the restrictions on? It was. Yes, we have a set that has those restrictions, but then the HOA has their own covenants of restrictions that deal with this as well. So it will take the town out of the equation, essentially, from an enforcement perspective, because it's not something we would enforce. They probably didn't even have those impressions back in 2002. No, yeah, so it's not something we would enforce anyway. So it takes us out, whatever happens between Mr. Morrison and the HOA is a separate question, whether or not the HOA even exists or is enforcing it, but those covenants still exist that we cannot touch because they're not ours. All we can do is grant relief, if you so choose, for our covenants of restrictions. It's a superior product. Yeah. And there's no maintenance, and it's a lot more money. Well, there's a few, like no one in the neighborhood is complaining, you know. No, no. You can't tell the difference. No one is there. Have similar properties. No one is there. I have a lot of products on the exterior. When I build my houses, I invite the whole neighborhood to come look and watch, and like anything, if someone's building a home in your neighborhood, they're going to want to see, and I invite everyone to come see. I have no complaints of what I've built and designed in that neighborhood, and this is, again, the third one, and I'm looking to eventually get involved in doing the fourth. But right now, we are under some pressure to close on this. I have a temporary CO, and it's not adequate in order to close. I have no problem with that, because everything looks good. In place, nothing looks out of place. Like I said, it's not something this board, you know, there's no probably real nexus to put that government together. We're not the taste police. We're not the taste police, as the chairman has eloquently said. We do have a resolution on later, so hang around, and we'll see what happens. Thank you for your time. Appreciate your help. Thank you, Matt. All right. Number three, Cauliflower Square, Long Island Flower Association, with Greg.

All right. I would just ask, we have Mr. Israel and we have Doug Adams here to represent the application. Invite them up if they would like to join in the conversation. So what we have is a site plan application amendment seeking to amend the previously known plan, which is the site plan application amendment. Known as Long Island Cauliflower Association site plan application, now known as Cauliflower Square. This application received final approval from the planning board back on May 1st of 2025. That resolution granted approval to develop an existing seven-acre parcel with a mixed-use development consisting of approximately 5,800-square-foot Chick-fil-A restaurant with drive-thru, about 1,400-square-foot medical office, a 2,600-square-foot medical office, and a 6,400-square-foot medical office. The nature of the... The changes by the applicant now deal solely with the Chick-fil-A portion of the site.

So really in this area here, the southernmost portion of the site. The proposed changes include a reduction in the size of the proposed Chick-fil-A restaurant from 5,840 square feet to 5,423 square feet. Reduction in the total amount of Chick-fil-A. Chick-fil-A restaurant seating from 70 approved indoor seats and 38 outdoor seats for a total of 108. They're bringing it down to 87 indoor seats with the elimination of the outdoor seating. Reduction in the amount of parking for the Chick-fil-A portion of the site from 98 to 90 stalls. Reconfiguration and reorientation of the building. Previously, the building was approved on the west side of the property. It was oriented in a north-south fashion. They're proposing to shift the building. More towards the southern portion and reorient it in a more of an east-west fashion. Reconfigure the proposed drive-thru lane. They still maintain a significant queuing line from the order point. Approximately 24 cars could fit into that queuing lane before it would back out into the drive aisle of the Chick-fil-A site. Relocation of some dumpster enclosures. And the plan now includes a proposed offer of dedication to the town of Riverhead for a... portion of Bill Road, which would capture the sidewalks. Because the sidewalks sort of turn into the site to take them out of the intersection of Bill Road. So those are the changes. Figure one in the staff report shows the previously approved layout. As I stated, that was on the west side of the Chick-fil-A site. At that point, it was a three-lane drive-thru. Had their canopy, their order point, as well as their pickup canopy. The drive-thru lane is now proposed to be two lanes wide. Still maintains the general orientation. The plans do currently... There is what I'd call a potential traffic conflict here. That's seen in figure two in the staff report. I highlighted that area in red. I did discuss that with the applicant previously. They did come up with a workaround that hasn't been formally incorporated into the plans yet. Just to reduce the number... The number of sets that were running off. But in figure three, they effectively closed off that drive-thru. This area would be maintained as a mountable curb, just in case anybody needed to exit. But it would eliminate that potential conflict where people are coming into the drive-thru and someone is trying to get out. In terms of the RPC location, I just want to bring it up. I would like to just see some additional landscaping in this area. As the board may recall, you know, this application... As the board may recall, you know, this application... We worked on it for several years. It went through several iterations. As a result of the review of the fire marshal's office, the fire marshal determined that the original proposal to just bring water in off of Mill Road would not provide adequate flow and supply to serve the entire property. So they had to bring in water from underneath County Route 58. So they jacked water service underneath the road, which required an RPC. Which required an RPC to be located in the front yard. Which required an RPC to be located in the front yard. Typically don't see RPC enclosures. I know the board has, you know, last couple of decades has shied away from RPCs in a front yard. But this was sort of born out of the fire marshal, the fire district requirements. As you drive past it right now, it is not... The enclosure is not placed on the pipe yet. You just see the pipe sticking out of the ground. But it is relatively close to the road. So I've spoken to the applicant. I would just really like to see... I would just really like to see significant landscaping in this area. They did increase the overall buffer area in the front yard. So there is a lot more room for landscaping. So I have spoke to Mr. Israel's son, Herbert. He has committed to providing a significantly increased landscaping plan in that area to make sure that it doesn't, you know, have significant visual impacts in the area. Gentlemen, just give your names for the record, please. We have your names for the record. Sure. Richard Israel. Richard Realty. Doug Adams, Young Associates. Thank you. So that's the nature of the changes in a nutshell. Again, just really dealing with the chick flight portion of the site. There are no proposed amendments to the northern portion of the site. All of the mitigating measures on Mill Road, the traffic signal, the restriping of Mill Road, that's all still in place. The applicant does have the permits from DPW for all the curb cuts and the road work. So these are the nature of the changes. I don't have a resolution on the construction of the construction sites. I am just going to make a point to you that you can see them in a little bit. I am just going to make a point to you that you can see them in a little bit. I am just going to make a point to you that you can see them in a little bit. I am just going to make a point to you that you can see them in a little bit. I am just going to make a point to you that you can see them in a little bit. I am just going to make a point to you that you can see them in a little bit. I am just going to make a point to you that you can see them in a little bit. I am just going to make a point to you that you can see them in a little bit. I am just going to make a point to you that you can see them in a little bit. I am just going to make a point to you that you can see them in a little bit. I am just going to make a point to you that you can see them in a little bit. I am just going to make a point to you that you can see them in a little bit. I am just going to make a point to you that you can see them in a little bit. for all the curb cuts and the road work. So these are the nature of the changes. I don't have a resolution on just because I wanted to see a landscaping plan and work with the applicant to develop that landscaping plan before we approve it and run off additional sets, but I wanted to bring it to the board for discussion and see if you have any concerns or any items that you'd like addressed. I think you got it covered. Real quick, Doug, the entrance and exit is directly across at the traffic light from Home Depot. Is that correct? Yes. Okay. Has there been any? That's been coordinated with 58. Okay. Yeah, there's a timing loop between the Mill Road 58 intersection. This will be signalized, you know, full four-way signalized intersection. We did review a traffic impact study when we were doing the secret review on this project. The traffic impact study did recommend the installation of a left turn lane so that someone who's coming. North on Mill Road to turn left into the site won't be blocking up traffic, so there will be a dedicated left turn lane that will be incorporated into the Mill Road right away. I don't know if that's okay. So that is shown here. That was one of the recommended mitigating measures from the traffic impact study that we reviewed. Okay. Has there been given any thought as to having cross-access over to Commerce, either be for motor vehicle? Or a walkway? So that people from those over on Commerce Drive can walk through to it? The issue that we have is all of those buildings are leased. And in order for me to get that covenant through would be extremely difficult. And I don't know. We have a signalized intersection on Commerce Drive. So I don't think you want to push people. I don't think you want to push people to that way. But, you know, we've never done that. You know, on 27 Waves, which is behind Panera, we're doing it. And I'm not against it. I think it helps. But when we have leases where they're responsible for their parking lots and things like that, I'd only have to do it. You know, the perfect place would be also Panera to have it next to whatever. But, you know, these things are under 30-year leases that they can't be changed. Well, how about a sidewalk that would give access? So if people wanted to go to Chick-fil-A for lunch from any of those buildings, where they'd be able to use a sidewalk as opposed to – because there is no sidewalk in front of the Harley-Davidson where they can walk over to Chick-fil-A. So if you gave them some type of a cut-through from Commerce into that shopping center – We have a sidewalk along 58. You're saying you'd want to have other sidewalks that – Again, it's more liability that you're allowing somebody who is not on that property or an invitee of that property to walk across. There is an elevation change. There's a retaining wall on this site because of the grade change between this site and Commerce Park. So the answer is it could be. But most tenants today – would like to know the privacy. We're constructing a fence along that entirely westerly boundary so that – for that reason that people don't traverse through. We don't get other people within our town that we keep chasing them around that people have their things. As we keep open spacing it, we have issue with homeless. We have – we have issues with a lot of things. But that's not in the planning world. You know? So I do recall to your point, Mr. Hogan, and we're going to be discussing 27 waves shortly. But unfortunately, for better or worse, it's beyond me how it got developed. But unfortunately, the entire Commerce Drive subdivision, which was previously known as the Warsaw Park subdivision, the entire thing was built out without sidewalks. And that was something that I had specifically brought up when we were talking about the 27 waves. You know, unfortunately, again, that entire subdivision – you know, that would never happen now if that were vacant and we were looking at those sites. You know, you'd require sidewalks and, you know, to be built out. But there is unfortunately no pedestrian connection along Commerce. So, you know, there is a planted shoulder, you know, a grass area where if someone's working in one of the office parks, they could walk down, get to the sidewalk on 58 and walk up to Chick-fil-A. But, you know, unfortunately – Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately, those sidewalks on Commerce are non-existent. Mm-hmm. Okay. There's not a lot of foot traffic into places like that anyway. I mean, really. No, I mean, 58's not really what I call a pedestrian-friendly road, unfortunately. Anybody else? Nope. Okay. Let's go right on to 27 waves. All right. All right. Let's see. All right. So this will be just a real quick follow-up on the site plan application for 27 waves LLC. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So this is a site plan application to construct an approximately 8,700-square-foot, one-story medical office. This application received preliminary approval from the planning board back in January of this year. There were a couple of conditions. One of them was to show a future cross-access with the neighboring property to the west, revise it to comply with town engineer comments, water district comments, obtain approval for a stormwater pollution prevention. Okay. intervention plan and the remainder of the site plan fee. The applicant has addressed all those issues. The plan now shows the future cross access. And again, this may never get built out, but being that this is sort of the last undeveloped parcel in the Commerce Drive subdivision, better get it now than never have the opportunity. The plans do show a future cross access at the northwest corner. So in theory, people who are shopping at the Warner Shopping Center over here, if they wish to get out to Commerce Drive, they could go along the side of that building, get out to Commerce Drive, which is a signalized intersection, just because trying to make a left out of there onto 58 is a little hard. So whether or not that ever gets built, we can have the applicant for 27 Waves file the future cross access on their property. Obviously, we can't compel the neighboring shopping center to come in, but if they come in for a site plan at some point, we can get that done. And if they want to get that done in the future, we can then require it and have it constructed. So I have a final approval resolution from the board for this one. Pretty straightforward. Okay. Now that that cross access is on Panera's property, Rich. Is that correct? No. Panera's to the south. Panera's lot one of that. Oh. This is, you know, Panera's here. This is the vacant lot to the north. This future cross access is with the Warner's shopping center. I thought you had considered doing close to Panera. I don't know. I can't. No, no, no. Panera's under a 30 year lease. Right, right, right. I can't. It's a land lease. They built their improvements and did everything else. Oh, okay. So if it comes back, I think it would be a great idea to create it there. To do that. Yeah. Because it makes more sense. You know, the shopping center to our west, it's one of those that it doesn't have a lit intersection. To make a left there is the most dangerous thing in the world. Right. And that's where I believe that it works. And, you know, I think that's a good thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You have to have that cooperation between owners. I went to my dentist the other day and I drove past the slot. Can we get the front by the curb? The growth is actually going into the street. Can you get somebody in there to cut it back? Ah. Do you know how many years I chased Mr. Edmund to do that? Yeah. Where I even did it for him because I own the rest of the... It's pretty bad, that lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. little bit if you can please okay is that in the resolution uh just going into the street it's actually growing into okay uh thank you we have a resolution later on um number five for doing warehouse number 52 you can come up pat good afternoon gentlemen good afternoon just give us your name pat for the record please all right so we have before us a cycling application seeking a ! to construct a one-story 3,900 square foot warehouse building with related site improvements including a new ia wastewater system parking landscaping lighting and drainage the property is located at 52 main road and riverhead particularly described as suffolk county tax amount number 600-84-5-13 it's located within the commercial residential campus or the crc zoning use district the property is approximately 0.52 acres in size and has approximately 125 feet of frontage along the north side of main road. The site currently is served it takes access off of main road by a 21 foot gravel right of way known as tarrow lane which is also shown as terry avenue. On the plans. The surrounding area is mainly there's single family residential there's three single family residences located to the north and north east of the property. Another single family residence directly to the east. Now you've got assorted commercial uses including. Sale. Sale. Sale. bowling alley, dairy land ice cream to the south, medical professional offices, as well as a self-storage facility, which is currently under construction, located directly across Main Road to the south. Property is located within Riverhead Water District extension number 05A. I did initiate, it is an unlisted action pursuant to SECRA. I initiated coordinated review among involved agencies. I sent out the SECRA coordination materials back in October. So in terms of use, the application does require a use variance from the Zoning Board of Appeals because the proposed warehouse use is not a permitted use within the CRC zoning use district. I did provide a denial letter to the applicant so he can proceed with a ZBA application. There were several right-of-ways submitted with the title report. The applicant has supplied copies of those documents to us. We're just reviewing them to ensure that there's no conflicts with what he's proposing. But in terms of the tarra lane access, if you see on the plans here, it comes off of Main Road. The existing gravel driveway traverses the northeast corner of the property and that's what serves as access to the property, which I believe is 56 tarra lane. Obviously, the plan requires really good access to the property. There's also a helt. There's also a helt. There's also a helt. There's also a helt. There's also a helt. There's also a helt. There's also a helt. There's also a helt. 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I do note that they back, you know, that the parking stalls are right off the Taralane right-of-way, but being that there's only three single-family residences to the north that utilize that right-of-way, and typically, you know, we've seen with Mr. Ferdun's warehouses, you know, there's one on Lincoln Street, there's a couple throughout town, they're not really high-intensity or high-traffic-generating uses, so I don't really have a huge issue with the parking proposed off the right-of-way. All the proposed lighting, they're only proposing three LED wall-mounted wall packs on the back of the building. They comply with the town code's exterior lighting requirements in terms of mounting height at 14 feet above grade and color temperature of 3,000 degree Kelvin, and they are dark sky compliant. Landscaping, I would like to see more landscaping throughout the site. There is pretty minimal landscaping proposed on the front yard. That was also a comment from the ARB, so as the plan moves forward, we can just, you can work with the planning department, we can... There's a residence behind that on the north side of the property. I'm just curious about the location of the dumpster. If you took that and moved it all the way to the west corner, where the residential house ends, I just think putting a dumpster in somebody's, you know, backyard... So the plans do propose a six-feet... Six feet. Six-foot stockade fence. I would recommend just some plantings here, you know, rather than have the resident at 56 Tara look at just a stockade fence, throw up a row of, you know, arborvitaes along there just to soften that so they're not looking at a stockade fence that can, you know, rot and deteriorate over time. Beyond that, I mean, if this, if there's the fence and, you know, a row of plantings, I don't think the location, the dumpster location wouldn't even really be visible from that residence. I mean, we can't... We can't... We can discuss that with the app again if you'd like. So beef up the landscaping. I'm not sure if there's any access or security gates proposed there. You know, right now, the fencing just is shown on the, to really encompass the back portion of the parking lot. There's no fencing or no gates. That's not really an issue. The plan does identify cross-access in order to, you know, formalize access to that Tara Lane right-of-way. I referred the plans to the DOT. They instructed... They instructed the applicant to make an application to the DOT for a permit. So the applicant will make a comment, make the application to the DOT and we'll get formal comments on them. The plan does call for a four-foot sidewalk. You know, right now, it's unfortunately the sort of sidewalk-to-nowhere situation. The sidewalk does continue at the All-Star Bowling Lane. At some point, though, we'll get connectivity out. Fire Marshal reviewed the plans. They had no comments on the site plan. Riverhead Water District just indicated that a new water service application. An RPZ submittal will be required. And key money will be required prior to the issuance of a CO. The town engineer had no comments on the site plan. I did refer the application to Suffolk County Planning Commission. Sale plan was reviewed by the architectural review board at it's meeting on October 22. The applicant was going to revise some doors windows. Add landscaping. And provide materials. samples to the ARB prior to the issuance of a final recommendation. So in terms of process, obviously they need the use variance. Wanted to bring it to the planning board to see if you had any planning concerns. If there's any significant concerns they can be relayed to the ZBA, but before this board can take any action or make any determination, the ZBA will need to grant that use variance. Yeah, I kind of agree with that. Pat, if you could, only because I've seen dumpsters, no matter how much you take care of them, they're gonna they're gonna either fall apart, get damaged, whatever, to move that just to the west. You know, everything's on paper right now and that home has been there forever. You know, a nice row of green giant arborvitaes, you know, just to keep... You want me to bring the fence back three feet and replace it in the back? Yeah, yeah. That's my biggest concern is your neighbor. Just one question here. On the east side of the area, there's a lot of trees that are growing. I'm not sure if you're familiar with that. I don't know if you've ever seen it. I don't know if you've ever seen it. The east side of the property is the Tower Drive and then the parking spaces. How do you get to them? Just pull in? Yeah, you pull in and pull out. It just, the tower lane's gonna turn into just an alleyway. Okay. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what the DOT may look for some improvement. They may look for like an apron or something just so, you know, if there's more traffic, you'll have gravel coming out, but the existing right-of-way will maintain as is. They will widen it a little bit just to provide some space for the parking space. Right. So, they're gonna have to facilitate the two-way traffic onto a portion of the subject property, but for all intents and purposes, the tower lane will effectively remain as is. And who takes care of snow removal? I'm assuming that's the neighboring property owners? Yep. Whoever handles it now. Right. It's not a town right of way. It's a private road so I'm assuming that's just handled by the existing owner. Pat, you'll be part of that? Oh. Okay. But you'll have to do snow removal for your building? Right. Right. The parcel to the left, is that preserved? This parcel? I don't believe so. Is that part of the sod farm that connects to the... Yeah, so I don't think that's preserved. How big are the units, Pat? Probably $12.50 each. All right, so you got three. Okay. Anything else, guys? No, that's good. Okay, Pat, come on. Thank you. Okay, number six, TKOC Real Estate Holdings, with Greg.

How we doing, gentlemen? Good afternoon. Good afternoon. If we could just get your names for the record. Kick Voorhees, Nelson Pope Voorhees. Matthew Aylward, R&M Engineering. Mike Kelly, TKOC. All right, so this is a discussion on the final environmental impact statement for a proposed major subdivision and site plan application. This is an approximately 15.8-acre site, which is located next to J&R State Campus over in Calverton on Middle Country Road. The proposed subdivision seeks to subdivide the existing 15.8-acre landline, create a single-family residential lot, create seven single-family residential lots, one commercial lot. The site plan proposes to develop that commercial lot along Middle Country Road with approximately 30,000 square feet of ground floor commercial space, 36 one-bedroom apartments on the upper floors, as well as a roadway, a sewage treatment plant that would serve the entire development, as well as a recharge basin for the roadway. The planning board issued a POSDEC on this application. We had the combined public hearing on the application, and we had a public hearing on the application. We had the combined public hearing on the application, and we had the public hearing on the application. We had a public hearing on the subdivision, the site plan, and the DEIS on September 4th of this year. The applicant submitted the final EIS. There really weren't a tremendous amount of comments. We did get some comments from our consultant regarding traffic, which they have addressed. And there were only three speakers who had – there were three residents. You had Thomas Houghton, Mark Malosky, and Karen Kemp, as well as myself and Member Bayer. So there weren't a tremendous amount of subdivisions. There were substantive comments, so that's why it's not a super lengthy document. There were some modifications to the proposed action based on comments that were received. One of the comments that Mr. Malosky had requested was basically pushing back the fence on the west side of the property so as to not obscure visibility of his design for his business. So that plan – the fencing was pushed back about 75 feet north on Middle Country Road. They are – one of the requests was – to increase to a 20- or 30-foot buffer. Unfortunately, that could not be accommodated based on the size of the roadway, setbacks, and just the general layout of the subdivision. But they are proposing a significant buffer along that – the first portion of that western driveway and the subdivision roadway. Justin, if we could zoom in on that. There will be a 10-foot buffer, vegetative buffer along here. The roadway does come out. There is a proposed buffer area on the back of the residential subdivision lots. So those were the modifications to the project, as well as they are going to incorporate an eastbound left turn lane into the site, again, which will be under the jurisdiction of the New York State DOT. So those were the modifications that were proposed. Other than that, the FEIS is straightforward. I do have a resolution on to accept the FEIS. That will get distributed. It will be posted on the town's website. And then the next step would be findings by this board. Okay. Well, Greg, the drawing of switching the building, moving the building, was that incorporated in the – So, yes. So there was – one of the alternatives that was looked at in the DEIS was the reorientation of the building. You know, right now it proposes – for lack of a better – Justin, can we zoom in a little bit? Good. So you have the – Okay. So you have the two wings of the building here. This is the commercial wing and this is the commercial wing. One of the alternatives was to basically rotate it so that this would be a commercial wing and this would be a commercial wing. I think that's something that can be addressed through the findings if that's the preferred design of the application. I see merits on both of the alternatives. You know, one of the things that I know you and I have spoken about is that, you know, if the – in this orientation with the apartments on the upper floors on this wing, anyone living in those apartments, they open their windows, you're basically opening your window to, you know, a main highway in the town. Doesn't really offer any sort of buffering from State Route 25. So if that building was reoriented, it might provide a little bit of separation from the residences so that they could open their windows. It's kind of unique in that, you know, these commercial buildings, you know, half of them, you know, have a lot of space. You know, they're not going to be able to move around. You know, they're not going to be able to move around. You know, half of the commercial space is already obscured by the building. So if the building was sort of rotated, you'd have a different, you know, architectural view of the building, but it wouldn't really increase or decrease commercial visibility necessarily being that half of the building is already obscured on the back end. One of the other benefits from that is that in the alternative version where the building is switched or reoriented, this access driveway to the commercial parking lot was moved back which one of the things that was discussed early on in this project was, you know, we currently don't have any applications on Miloski's Poultry Farm, but down the road, it does share similar zoning, both Hamlet Center and residential in the back. So down the road, if Miloski's Poultry Farm was ever redeveloped with a similar size development, there's additional queuing capacity down this roadway. I don't think Miloski's, you know, I don't think Miloski's would have a separate curb cut. We may end up just doing a cross access here. So one of the benefits is to just provide additional queuing capacity on that road going out to Middle Country Road. Do we have a cross access on the- It's something we're going to, it's something that'll be required. You know, that was discussed early on in the site plan review. But again, those are, those are things that would come up in a, I believe in a finding statement that, you know, if the board agrees, I don't know where the board leans. We can have a discussion on that, but that's just sort of my initial take on that. So gentlemen, I probably spoke to at least 20 people because this is, you know, it's been open to the public. The first thing they say to me is that who would want to live 25 feet off of 25 in the top apartment? If you turned it around, you know, you're going 50, 100 feet away from 25. And I don't like Greg says, I don't, I don't see any, you know, bad problems with just turning it. Right. and I've looked at it for the last six months, eight months, I would lean towards going the other way. Okay. So we're ready to discuss that. We have Mike Kelly is here, Matt from the civil engineer. I'll just start that we have looked at that. We are not in favor of that configuration. Our preferred configuration is what you see. It's the proposed project plan in the EIS. There's a number of reasons for that, and I'll just point to the residential parking for the units that are here and here is basically in the back. So it's separated from the commercial parking. When you reconfigure it, the parking becomes more, more communal and it's not as well separated. Just look at the distance that a resident would have to walk. It's, again, mixing the commercial parking with the residential parking is not a preference. If you know my wife, the less she has to travel with groceries. Yeah. And Mike can speak to the occupancy of the units. Mike Kelly is here, but, you know, he's confident that these units can be occupied, that they will be rented. A couple of other aspects. If you're traveling east on 25, you have commercial visibility. I don't fully agree with Greg's comment that the commercial visibility is the same in either configuration. I think that the horseshoe facing north, if you want to call it that, if you rotated this, you would have much less visibility for the commercial uses. Michael speak about it, but I have personal experience with a project in Brookhaven that was designed similar to that. With the visibility obscured and it was not successful for commercial purposes. So we do want this to be successful. It's obviously very important. Also, just from a building mass standpoint, as you're going east or west on 25, the building will appear less massive. Now that's for a couple of reasons. First of all, if you look over your shoulder as you're passing directly in front of the site, it's just a second in time. But as you're approaching from either the east or the west, the opening of the buildings toward the west, this side here, is much more open. This portion is lower in height. And so again, as you're approaching from the west, it's going to look less massive. As you're approaching toward the east, it's going to look less massive. And Matt just did some measurements. The building is actually 50 feet narrower in this configuration than it would be if you rotated that whole horseshoe. We thought that was a very important point. Those are just some of the points. We have other experts here, but it is definitely not our preferred configuration. We do believe we conform to HC and RB40 zoning in all respects. We've been down this road for a long time. My company did the draft environmental impact statement. This has really gone very smoothly, and this is the part of the discussion that looks at alternatives. But we don't feel there's a compelling reason to go toward this alternative. But I will compliment the board on the FVIS process, and we would look to have that resolution adopted this afternoon to accept the FVIS. But our preference is this configuration. Pass it over to Matt to amplify anything. Yeah. I just think. I think as Chick said, it's preferred alternative is to have the horseshoe facing to the west. One other thing that it does do, if we did rotate it in addition to making the building now appear wider on Route 25, it's also channelizing all that commercial activity to the north towards the residence. Whereas now, while most of that activity within this horseshoe is to the west to another commercial piece. So we'd like to keep everything kind of separate, commercial towards the front, residential towards the back. We do understand that is a bit of a distance. We don't want to give a lot of distance to that front wing. But as Michael explained, rental preference. That's preference of the, exactly. You don't like it, you don't rent it. Mike. Right. So fully understand the comments and as you've heard discussions, we've had discussions internally as well. We've also had it with various marketing people who have worked on this and understand the marketability of the retail really. Right. So. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. seller of this property when I bought it owns a property that Chick mentioned in Brookhaven. So his property is on the corner of North Country Road and North Ocean, sorry, North Ocean Avenue and Middle Country Road, kind of on the border of Selden and Coram. And he designed a big shopping center and a building backs. So the back of the building, similar to what you're requesting, backs onto Middle Country Road. And his parking is fully 100% in the rear of the building. So when you're on Middle Country Road and you're passing Middle Country, you don't know what that building is about. You don't know what tenants or retail users are in that building because you can't see it. That retail space is dead. And it's been dead since he put it up. But it was the request. I'm sorry. It's just a big wall. Yeah, that's exactly. I know what you're talking about. No. So it was the brainstorm of some members of the town of Brookhaven at that time. And it's dead. Now, I know it firsthand. I sat on the IDA in Brookhaven for many years. And he came to us several times to say, I can't get anybody in there because they're afraid to lease it up and spend their money. So that's a major concern as an owner. We're not just talking 20 people. This is millions of dollars that are going to be invested. And we want to we all collectively our side, your side, every resident. We want to make sure this thing's a success. So we want to put our best foot forward in terms of in terms of the walkability. Right. Always a concern. Right. You want to park somewhere where you're where you're living. Mike, let me ask you, would you rent an apartment on 25 at 25 feet away? And would you rent the top apartment in a heartbeat in this day and age all day long? Because. There are none. And I'm not I'm not trying to be arrogant. I'm just saying the marketplace, the way it stands right now, we as a region, we don't have enough housing stock, let alone enough diversified housing stock like this. And I'm right. I'm really trying not to be combative. And Ken, if you take a look at Main Street Riverhead, half of those units are all facing the commercial, you know, Main Street Riverhead and the market. I'm working on another project in Pulaski Street, the market for these rental units when they go on the market. They have a waiting list to get in. There's a big demand. The hospital is about to expand. They'll be coming in probably for permission within the next few months. And and they're going to take Mercy High School, make that a learning hospital and a long term care. How many employees they got up there now? They're going to have more. And those are a lot of the those are a lot of the people that are renting these units. So I I think that in this case, this project conforms in all respects. To the zoning requirements of the town of Riverhead. And I agree, I'm familiar with that building in Brookhaven too. And we don't want any. This is a mixed use. But with the mixed use, you also want to make sure that we have full occupancy on the retail so that the tax bill is not effective to the town of Riverhead. Right now, we've had two 8% tax increases, which had an effect in this election. And we have more space open space preserved than any other town in Suffolk County. So this has nothing to do about paving over River. This is about on the residential and even some of the ones that I was on the town board, the one next to us. It's hard to rent in the back there because the visibility is important. And I think if we made a wall in the front, it's going to affect the retail and that's going to be a major component of this thing. I would be more concerned about leasing up the retail component than. What do we have 16? I'm not. It's on that side. No opposition from me on the project. I like the project. But it's up to your designers to make if you turned it to make it attractive. You know, and it's the marketplace that drives that. Yeah, I see. Don't forget the traffic you have there is doing 55 miles an hour. It's not doing 10 miles an hour on Main Street. That's that that is my biggest concern. And the people that I. talked to the first thing they said they didn't say that they didn't like the project it's like who wants to rent right on 25. and that's and that's that's all my the part is probably it's not going to be them right they're probably in a house the 20 people that uh right so it's the people who are going to be living here want to be somewhere other than their mom and dad's basement or the top of their garage this project also is good in the fact that that the package plan we're going to put in that it's possible that the the restaurant might be able to participate and we eliminate that uh the old-fashioned septic system that's there now and also in my opinion when you have it this way it opens up between the malaski property and this way there's no wall there because i think that'll be important down the road if the family wants to develop that prop i hope they don't i hope they don't kids take it over and stuff like that but i think it's a better look a better open space between the two properties more connectivity and i know mark is very concerned about looking you know that's why we moved the landscaping back and the fences down and we wanted to preserve the integrity of his property so the connectivity if that future development does happen if and when and i think the marriage of those two sites is better set up with the orientation of the building of the house heading west so again the the the rents that likely come for a one bedroom apartment over retail it's not going to be great so the people who could afford that wouldn't mind a walk because now they have their own place so the the haves and the wants are a little bit easier judged and juggled on a one bedroom rental above the versus 30 000 square feet of retail that can't be seen or accessed in a in an easier manner right in a visible manner and i think a lot of people prefer to see some type of parking within the parking lot as they're going to shop there right i know by convenience right you know you want to see that it's populated correct comment greg um on the queuing in the future right if the if the two properties are cross-accessed um the queuing probably can easily be queued inside of each one of those communities it doesn't have to queue up just on that shared uh entryway but i mean i was really more just thinking you know i mean 30 000 square feet of ground floor commercial again malasky's is a similar size so i mean if you were looking at 60 000 square feet and again this is just a long-term planning thing i don't know exactly what off the top and what the distance is here but again this is not a signalized intersection so i mean anybody who if you're stopped here you know potentially making a left you know i mean again i don't know about 150 feet or so yeah so i mean 150 feet what seven eight vehicles maybe um you know not not out of the realm of possibility to think that there could be seven or eight vehicles between the residences and the commercial use looking to exit that site but i think that's a good point i think that's a good point i think that's a good point so i'm wondering if you're trying to make a left out of that location you might be there for a while and we have a left we have a yeah there's a right turn lane a right turn lane and a left turn lane but if we're gonna if we're considering the farm to the right in the future development i believe this layout with the sea facing each other is more of a community then whereas if we're taking two blocks we're essentially taking two commercial you know mixed use properties and by a couple of walls up no residential really of a public street that's going back to seven lots we would want that community to face each other I don't disagree I don't disagree with that yeah I think it's complimentary to you finish this with Ken what's up and if I have something else we need all the development standards some of that is the private enterprise risk assessment of each project and they're the ones that make determination because they're the ones spending the millions of dollars signing the bank loans and all that stuff so you have to give a little different difference a deference there to that that's what questions when you submitted the impact statement there was also a third alternative which was build the houses in the back and then the buildings in the back and then the buildings in the back and then just have one small commercial building in the front which I thought it was a much better use because I thought this whole thing is an over intensification in the front it's just having the one small building and twelve lots in the back you know what you don't need to have sewage sewer plant that goes out the window okay and they just put individual for the homes and there's small one again for the commercial I think the powers that be in the town zoned. Boy, I totally understand it. You're certainly well within what you should be doing. I'm just saying I think it's an over-intensification of use. And somebody else has made a mistake or drew the line that way, and that's the way it is. Why we bought it the way it is. Well, we bought it that way, and the town just, as you people know, that we just completed another rezoning of the entire town, and we hired consultants, a million dollars, blah, blah, blah, everything for half a million, whatever we paid the consultants. And we just did a comprehensive update of our comprehensive plan, and probably that, Joe, could have been addressed for this. But I don't think this area would have been addressed on the whole line. It's got to be the whole thing. I understand. I just don't. It's my own feeling. Anybody else? That's it. Thank you. Good luck. Thank you. Okay. We appreciate it. No problem. Have a nice afternoon. You too. 4129 Middle Country Road, Polar Market Canopy Site Plan with Greg. Thanks, Greg. Go back to the captain's chair here.

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existing gas islands they were going to formalize curbing along 25 sidewalks landscape areas really beautify the site a bit one of the conditions of the approval the board at the time of the adoption of the administrative approval resolution the board wanted to see rather than just a flat canopy the board requested a hip roof the resolute administrative approval stated that prior to approval you show a hip roof canopy in a form approved by the planning board so they've submitted the plans and now shown the hip roof if the board is amenable to it i do have a resolution on to approve that uh they're almost ready i think they've just got to file it i believe they've filed their cross access so i think this is the last remaining piece before they can these individual well is it going to be one long so there are two individual gas islands so there will be two canopies okay no it's not an individual for each station no no no no one canopy for each of the uh the two

so there were two rows of gas pumps here one canopy here and then the smaller canopy here so it's not going to be one massive canopy so as long as the board is okay with the hip roof on the canopies we have a resolution yeah i'm i'm good with anything bowler does usually is top notch it's a real nice real shot in the arm for that it'll clean it up yeah warm wise the access anything else gentlemen oh greg just real quick the the color scheme that's there the uh the car wash is going to be the more or less the same color this is not the car this is not the car wash oh right right right that's the one in calvert this is the calvert that one west milligan's station all right number eight 393 pulaski street improvements with greg so so We do have a representative from the application here. If he would like, he can come in and join in the conversation. But what we have is an administrative site plan application. I apologize. I'll just let you introduce yourself for the record. My name is Martin Skorsakas. So administrative site plan application seeking to payment existing gravel, parking area, install drainage systems, update internal sidewalks and curbing, and install new lighting at the site of an existing professional medical office. This site's located at 393 Pulaski Street, which is located on the southeast corner of the intersection of Osborne and Pulaski Street. It's located at the Village Center Zoning District. The site's presently improved with an approximately 2,000-square-foot, one-story building, currently occupied by one-on-one physical therapy. The site is served by... by two curb cuts, one on Osborne Avenue, one on Pulaski Street. There are no modifications proposed to either of those curb cuts. It's a mix of commercial, residential, and institutional in the area with a commercial shopping center across Osborne to the west, Riverhead Middle School up to the north, and then you've got residential use surrounding it. Essentially what they're looking to do, there's an existing gravel parking area in the back of the building, which is seen in figures three and four on my staff report. It's an existing gravel parking lot that has a landscape buffer along the edges. They're looking to just pave this gravel... pave the gravel surface. It'll provide an asphalt surface. They're looking to install drainage systems. They're going to update existing light poles with dark-sky compliant lighting. Site contains a total of 21 parking stalls. Fencing and gates, the existing woven fence along Osborne will be replaced with a four-foot-high, black vinyl fence. The old chain-link coated fence. We did get comments from the Town Engineer. Just simple. They wanted a soil boring and a groundwater elevation column added to the plans. Very straightforward. No objection to this. Based on the nature of the— and I do apologize— they will be adding a four-foot flush mount sidewalk to the curb. Right now, I guess based on the previous uses, there's some garage doors here and there's some like little bump outs here. So they're going to smooth that out. out based on the nature of the physical therapy nature it makes sense to make the site more accessible for patients come to the site so no objections to this simple modifications with the engineering comments and I have an approval resolution just look at figure three it shows the fence yes so that so that fence is actually that was taken is there any reason it has to extends on the east-west I understand if you want to put a border on on Osborne Avenue but you have to extend it looks so that fence is going to be removed so that figure three was taken I was probably standing like right here looking into the gravel parking area right so that fence and that gate that's going to be removed this will be widened 24 feet to facilitate two-way traffic but that gates going to be removed the location of the proposed you know the the four-foot chain-link fence will be around there ! I'm all for the blacktop and I mean you've done a beautiful job so far in that kid just thank you we have a resolution hang around you can all right at this point in time we're gonna take public comments on any of the resolutions okay not seeing any takers I'll move resolution 2025 106 malice property minus subdivision resolution is granting to 90-day extensions second you proved moved in second mr. Zernicki yes mr. Hogan yes mr. DeNiro hi mr. bear yes and I vote aye the motion carries I'll move resolution number 107 Reeves farm resolution moved in second mr. Zernicki yes mr. Hogan yes mr. DeNiro hi mr. bear yes and I vote aye the motion carries I'll move resolution number 2025-0108 Haramar LLC farm stand resolution classifying an action as a type 2 action pursuant to CEQA and granting the farm stand approval for an application seeking approval to construct a 987 foot square foot farm stand so moved second moved in second mr. Zernicki moved in second mr. Zernicki yes mr. Hogan yes mr. DeNiro hi mr. bear yes and I vote aye motion carries resolution 2025 109 393 Pilecki Street site improvement resolution granting site plan approval for a site plan application seeking to pave an existing gravel parking area second moved it second music I really think we should do this I'm not sure it's a good idea moved it second mr. Zernicki moved it second mr. Barrow uses it forай Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. Nenero. Aye. Mr. Baer. Yes. And I vote aye. The resolution carries. I'll move resolution 2025-110 for 27 waves LLC bringing the final site plan approval. So moved. Second. Moved and second. Mr. Zanicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. Nenero. Aye. Mr. Baer. Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. I'll move resolution number 111-4129 Middle Country Road Bull Market Canopy Plan. Second. Okay. Moved and seconded discussion. Greg, I know some of these canopies that get crazy with the lighting. Is this compliant? Yes. All the lighting on the site plan is all under the canopy. There's no non-compliant lighting. Okay. They are updating the rest of the lighting throughout the site. Awesome. Mr. Zanicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. Nenero. Aye. Mr. Baer. Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. I'll move resolution 2025-106. 2025-112 TJOC Real Estate Holdings resolution to accept the final environmental impact statement for the development plan to for the vacant wooden 15.8 acre parcel. So moved. Second. Moved and seconded. Mr. Zanicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. Nenero. Aye. Mr. Baer. Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. Okay. That's the end of today's resolutions. It's open for public comment. If anybody wants to speak about anything, they can come up now.

Or they can go home and watch football. Meeting minutes. We'll have next meeting. Okay. No secret actions. Correct? Correspondents? Any other business people? No? Our next meeting date is Thursday, December 4th. So we won't see you before Thanksgiving. So everybody have a safe and happy one. Happy Thanksgiving. Can we get this motion closed? Motion closed. Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? Aye. Seconded. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. We closed a little early. I don't think we had a vote, so we're still open. Okay. We are asking everybody to leave. They're going anyway. We're going into executive session for legal advice regarding litigation and performance bond for a residential subdivision. So moved? Second. Moved and seconded. All in favor? Aye. Aye to go into executive session. Justice? Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Motion. Thank you.