December 18, 2025 — Planning Board

Planning Board Meeting

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1:46Thank you very much. Welcome.
1:52We have no public hearing, so we're going to get right into discussion items.
1:57Number one with Heather.
1:59Dave's heart check.
2:00Do we have anybody here for the application?
2:04No.
2:04Okay.
2:05It's pretty straightforward.
2:08For the record, Heather Trojanski, planner.
2:11As the board recalls, you recently approved a site plan for the former Friendly site at 949 Old Country Road in Riverhead.
2:21Resolution number 2024-092, dated December 5th of 2024.
2:26That was for all the site work that's going to be occurring on the site, including a drive-through for a Qdoba.
2:32And at the time of review, the property owner, there was an unspecified traditional sit-down restaurant tenant.
2:40At this time, Dave's Hot Chicken is looking to fill that space.
2:44So they're coming in for some proposed facade work.
2:49And just open them up here.
2:54So this is strictly.
2:56For the western half of the building, all of the elevations that were approved with the Qdoba approval are remaining.
3:04The ARB did review the elevations at their meeting on December 3rd of 2025.
3:10They did approve the facade changes subject to removing red coping at the roof and change to a gray to match what's on the Qdoba side.
3:18And then remove the red coping and rear sign on the south elevation.
3:22So the plans that you have today and that are here actually reflect.
3:26Those changes.
3:28These do not.
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3:32I'm being loud with the papers.
3:33What was the question?
3:34Qdoba.
3:35Is that.
3:36Are they open yet?
3:37Not yet.
3:38I think they might have permits.
3:39I'm not 100% sure if they've started their associated site work.
3:40But all of like the paving, landscaping, lighting upgrades, that's all remaining the same.
3:41And actually, the resolution I just gave to the city is that they will be open until December 5th.
3:42So that's the plan.
3:43And then we're going to be able to move on to the next step.
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3:45So we're going to be able to move on to the next step.
3:46So we're going to be able to move on to the next step.
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4:17like the whole site is originally um dave's hot chicken had come with like a light bar on top
4:22which they ended up changing so it's just that sort of dark gray coping to match it's not
4:27lit up here if their signs are going to be lit those will be separate applications made to the
4:32building department and they will you know be dark sky compliant so other than that not a huge change
4:39the architect and engineer did request one change for the rear entrance on the original qdoba site
4:46plan approval they had stairs going to the two um tenant entrances they're just changing it to
4:53a ramp so it's not going to be any bigger um just a ramp i guess for ease of access for any vendors
4:59making deliveries but nothing else in the approved site plan is changing there was another question
5:04that we had talked about in that site uh behind it with the fence there was a fence issue i don't
5:10know because gregory do you remember the fence issue greg between the two parcels uh i mean
5:17vaguely exactly what it was don't quote me so the qdoba um the owners or they they agreed to
5:24replace the fence on their side i know that it had been pushed in when we had discussed it originally
5:31and on the qdoba site plan which i actually have here the approved site plan they do show a
5:36replacement fence and i remember the board saying that they did not want to see a pvc fence because
5:42they tend to break in the winter time so yes they're showing um a six foot
5:46high chain link fence with brown vinyl slats to be replaced as necessary that was part of their
5:51original approval and the stock the plans are signed but wasn't there an access to the parcel
5:57behind it so that was a future cross access we had a very lengthy discussion with the property
6:03owner and it turns out that there was already an act cross access file to a future cross access so
6:09at at this time there's no need to open anything but in the future if an adjacent parcel comes in we
6:15discovered that the cross access actually runs along both of these property lines
6:20and I believe Jackie Jacqueline Peranto actually put that on the survey on the site yeah she has
6:27the easement plan here I don't know if you can see it or not but it shows mutual access easement so
6:32again future cross access meaning it's not getting developed right now but if this rear parcel comes
6:38in we had a very lengthy discussion about that Heather real quick because the Chicken Place
6:46has no drive through with the amount of seating is there plenty parking yeah so the seating for the
6:53total square footage between both tenants it was calculated and they're actually over parked I
6:59believe so again all the parking that was proposed as um the original site plan the number of seats
7:04in Dave's Hot Chicken is compliant with that so they're not exceeding the amount
7:08amount of seats that was under the original approval.
7:12That's for health department standards,
7:13for parking standards.
7:14They're really just coming in to do their facade work,
7:16which they had a different plan originally,
7:20and we finally got them to a place
7:22where the ARB approved it.
7:25So other than that, no other changes.
7:29With the ARB's changes that they considered,
7:33is that part of this?
7:34Did you change that?
7:36Did you incorporate them in the changes?
7:37Yes, so the plans that I just handed you,
7:40and the plans that are up on the screen,
7:42screen show the coping change,
7:44and then they had additional artwork and signage back here.
7:47That's all gone.
7:48So they went to the gray and the...
7:52Yes, so originally they had some additional coping
7:54and artwork here, that's gone.
7:57And then all of the coping on top
7:58is now that darker color to match.
8:01Graffiti to me, cracked walls.
8:04If ARB approved it, I guess.
8:06It was...
8:07The original design was much more busy
8:10than what's approved.
8:11So we sort of came to a happy medium.
8:14And again, the ARB, this is toned down
8:17from what they originally submitted.
8:21Anybody else?
8:22Nope, no one good.
8:22Good, thank you, Heather.
8:25Okay, item number two, bread, butter, and bottle,
8:28with Marissa.
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9:05for the record Marissa Danowski site plan reviewer and August Muff
9:11architect of record
9:20the planning department received an application perfect in regards to the
9:27subcanny tax amount number 600-20-4-2 also known as 5087 Sound Avenue which is
9:39the Sound Avenue liquor and grocery store formally so
9:46currently they are looking to just further enhance the aesthetic and
9:54functionality of the site so the
9:57the
9:57uses are to remain the same and it's gonna be the existing so it's gonna be
10:03another grocery and liquor store currently the project site is located
10:10within a busy zoning use district it's an improved parcel containing two
10:17structures one commercial one mix use again there is no further additions or
10:24anything they're just looking to redo the
10:27exterior siding the windows they're looking to do the roof replacements and
10:36update the existing lighting features so pretty much also within here they're
10:46looking to do they're showing the adequate parking this is updated from
10:52what you guys currently have because one of my recommendations when I do my
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11:26out. One of my recommendations was the just to at least show the dumpster location because I know that that was a recommendation that the board was going to look at. So the provided plan that he that the architect has given to show in front of you and up on the screen, I believe does have the dumpster location at this time.
11:50There's room for it. It's not actually shown on here. It's going to go right here. Okay. Okay. So you said there's two buildings there. Obviously, there's the main building. And then you want this next door? What's going on there? So it's still the existing uses are to remain the same. So currently, this building is currently well, it was utilized as the
12:20Sound Avenue liquor store that is to be the same. So it's going to be a liquor store again. Yes. And then this currently is a grocery store. And it's going to remain as a grocery store with a there is a apartment above and that is to remain the same. The only other changes that were proposed were there is garage doors to the rear side. Currently that goes underneath. So this comes down. And they're
12:50proposing to remove those and close them. So it's just going to be an accessory storage below for that grocery store.
12:58Is there anything that could be done with that telephone pole right in the middle of the parking lot?
13:03We've been actually talking about reaching out, presumably to the New York State DOT for that to it is in a bad location. Yeah. My client would like to improve the entrance entrances and exits in the in the
13:20parking lot.
13:20And we have talked about that. Yeah. So you're going to do a curbing? Sorry, curbing may go in and designated in and out. Possibly we haven't actually met with the DOT or anyone yet. And so public works. I thought that Sound Avenue was a state road. That's Yeah. Yeah, that's great. So I mean, for this application purpose, right now, it's for just to do the
13:50further, like enhance the aesthetic of it just to put new siding and windows. If you chose to do that route, we could always, you would just have to go and get the approvals from town. And we could talk to the highway department and things of that nature and see what they say about that.
14:09Heather, you said,
14:13Oh, Marissa. Sorry. Four new spots, parking spots.
14:17Yes. So originally,
14:20it was shown on the plan that you have in front. The board has in front of them. It showed seven
14:25spots.
14:26What from the parking calculation it
14:29was shown that 11 was needed. So additional for would have had to be provided. Yep. And then
14:38yeah,
14:38the other two were for the back for the apartment purposes.
14:42So it would be a total of 11. And then there was also recommended that the handicaps. One of the 11 spaces.
14:50be for handicap ADA purposes, which is shown here.
14:55Any further need to go to health department?
14:58No, just because the uses are remaining the same. So there's
15:03really not a need to go to health department.
15:05So it's been ongoing as it hasn't worked?
15:07Correct.
15:09Have you heard anything back from the fire marshal on it?
15:11So the I did send it out to the town river fire marshal. He had
15:17no further comments. I did also refer out to the town engineer.
15:23The two comments that he had was asking to complete a soil boring,
15:28which it believe
15:30that done yesterday.
15:31This was
15:33new to me. But good. So the soil boring and then he just wanted
15:39further information in regards to the details and specs of the
15:43new electrical
15:47the new
15:47electrical
15:47fixtures, which I believe I did attach. And then we also have it
15:53put on this updated plan as well. The only other thing that I wrote
16:01as any of the conditions was just to meet the town engineers
16:07comments, which seemed to be rectified, and that the exterior
16:12lighting is to comply with the town code. And to the proposed
16:17dumpster location.
16:17It can be shown if possible. And that was about it. Because the parking has been addressed and shown on this plan.
16:27Is the entire facility lighting compliant at the end of the day?
16:32So with currently the existing lighting, they're looking to upgrade the fixtures so that they are going to be dark skies compliant with the town code. As they are right now, I'm not sure.
16:47I can speak to that. There was a very large sodium incandescent light from the 1970s. It's got put in the dumpster.
16:56Okay.
16:56And now we've got all dark sky compliant.
17:00Is there going to be a new street sign, the old one taken down, or is that part of this plan?
17:06The old signs are going to remain. They work. We had them relamped. And there will be a separate sign application from the new street sign application.
17:16So we're going to be replacing the windows.
17:17Okay.
17:18And the new street sign application will be from going signs from Huntington.
17:19Just one more question, getting back to the fire marshal. The apartment above is going to remain as is, correct?
17:20Yes.
17:21But you're going to replace the windows?
17:22Yes.
17:23Right, according to the plan?
17:24Yes. So I mean, they're replacing from, it's replacing like and kind. In regards to the windows, were you referencing like the...
17:25Egress.
17:26Yeah. So that would be with the building department as well.
17:27Okay.
17:28So that would be the plan.
17:29Okay.
17:30So that would be the plan.
17:31Okay.
17:32So that would be the plan.
17:33Okay.
17:34So that would be the plan.
17:35Okay.
17:36So that would be the plan.
17:37Okay.
17:38So that would be the plan.
17:39Okay.
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18:16Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you, Marissa.
18:19Item number three, TJOC Real Estate Holdings with Greg.
18:41Thank you.
18:42Thank you.
18:44Thank you.
18:51Let's get everybody's names.
18:53Greg Bergenowski, 533 Elm Street, Riverhead.
18:57Mike Kelly for TJOC.
18:59Larry Davis, attorney for TJOC.
19:02Matthew Elbert, R&M Engineering, site civil engineer.
19:05Jake Borey, NPV, Melville.
19:08Greg Bergman, senior planner, town of Riverhead.
19:11So what we have is just a quick discussion
19:14for the next few minutes.
19:14The TJOC Real Estate Holdings LLC,
19:18a draft finding statement
19:20for the major subdivision and site plan.
19:23Just a quick brief backstory on it.
19:25This is both a major subdivision application
19:27as well as a site plan
19:29seeking to subdivide an existing 15.87-acre parcel.
19:33The proposed major subdivision
19:34will create seven single-family residential lots,
19:37one lot dedicated for an on-site sewage treatment plan,
19:41a roadway proposed to be dedicated
19:43to the town of Riverhead,
19:44and a roadway to the town of Riverhead.
19:44The project will be a joint water management parcel
19:46as well as a retention of a 4.98 mixed-use zoned commercial parcel
19:51up on the front, the south portion of the property
19:54on Mill Country Road.
19:55So we went through the full Seeker Review process on this.
19:58It was a type one action.
19:59The board issued a POSDEC.
20:01We went through public scoping,
20:02submission of a draft environmental impact statement.
20:05We had public hearings on that.
20:07A final environmental impact statement was prepared.
20:10And what I did, we had a discussion on this
20:14at the end of the year.
20:14At the planning board meeting on November 20th,
20:17you know, there were two different,
20:19I basically prepared two identical finding statements
20:24with one exception dealing
20:27with the alternative layout of the site.
20:29The applicant had made their position, you know,
20:32for the desired layout.
20:34So I basically did one finding statement
20:36with the applicant's preferred design and one app,
20:39one finding statement with the alternative design
20:42with the building rotated.
20:44The applicant, you know,
20:44the applicant yesterday afternoon submitted a letter
20:48in support of the applicant's preferred design,
20:50which I distributed to the board.
20:52So really to just go through and get the board's opinion
20:55on which way they'd like to go.
20:57I wasn't really clear when we left the last discussion on this.
21:01So I just wanted to present the board
21:03with basically two different finding statements.
21:05In the end, we still get to the same.
21:07There is a positive findings on this,
21:10meaning that any potential impact will be mitigated
21:12with the incorporation.
21:14So the idea of the incorporation
21:15of the sewage treatment plant, the proposed eastbound left turn lane
21:19into the site and all of the mitigation
21:21that has been designed into the project.
21:23We still get to the same goal.
21:26It's still, it's just a question of which alternative
21:29or the preferred alternative for the applicant.
21:35Alrighty.
21:35I reviewed their letter.
21:39I find it to be reasonable.
21:40I mean, I think it's a business decision.
21:42It does meet the criteria of the code in law, and I think it's a personal business opinion which will lay out work best for you.
21:53So, for one, I'm happy to go with the applicant's thing.
21:57I understand Kenny's point, too.
21:59It's a good point, but the applicant wants us this way.
22:02It meets the criteria of the law.
22:04For me, I'm all right with it.
22:06I have to reiterate exactly what he said.
22:10I feel the same way.
22:11You guys are better at this than I think we are.
22:14I do know from my years being involved in real estate that the retail portion of it is a major thing for you guys,
22:23and I don't believe that we should be telling you how to do it.
22:29I think it's your money.
22:34You can't come back and say because we changed the orientation,
22:39now we're going to do it.
22:40We can't rent a place.
22:42What do we do?
22:43I agree with it.
22:45I'm the same.
22:48Same way.
22:50It's a decision that you guys have to make.
22:53It kind of reminded me of the shops out at the Eastwind.
22:55You really don't see them from the highway.
22:58They're kind of tucked away, but yet those stores, they all do very well for themselves,
23:02and there's really no advertising or anything there either, similar to your project.
23:06I'm comfortable with it.
23:10Thank you.
23:11Thank you.
23:11Gentlemen, you know my feelings, and I just one more time explain it.
23:15That with this picture, there's nothing that screams to me about any commercial whatsoever.
23:22Today I sat for 15 minutes right next to Malowski's farm, just 15 minutes.
23:29There were 14 large vehicles, large trucks.
23:32Eight of them were tractor trailers just in 15 minutes, and at 55 to 60 miles an hour,
23:40they do make a lot of noise.
23:43And just picture yourself sitting in one of the apartments for 24 hours on a Saturday
23:48or whatever, and that's one of the points that I'm trying to bring out.
23:54Take this and just move it around, and now 90% of those residents won't be anywhere near
24:01the road as they are on the other end.
24:06And I know the commercial part of it is very...
24:10That's a good point.
24:12But Tanger One has 20 stores that are empty, and if you're putting all your money on the
24:20commercial, that's a tough sell for me.
24:24I think the residential is as important as the commercial is, and I feel that the people
24:31I've shown these plans to, they all say to me, why would I want to live 25 to 50 feet
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24:44streets in the town of Riverhead that you do live near and the apartments on Main Street,
24:48but you only do it five or ten miles an hour. And that's my biggest concern when I hear
24:55the people in our community, what they tell me. I have no objection to the project. It's
25:02just that I feel that to just reverse it, even because not a shovel has been in the
25:09ground, just to reverse it would be a benefit to you guys and to the town of Riverhead,
25:16in my opinion. Thanks, guys.
25:19Okay. Well, you made some great points, Kenny, but I think there's a quorum that will go
25:25with the applicant's ideas.
25:27But your point, Mr. Allen, is a very quick point.
25:29Mr. Chairman, I just want to make a point. So, Greg, you're going to add that resolution,
25:34because I noticed it wasn't on the – I figured it wasn't on the resolutions because you had
25:37to make which one.
25:38So what are the resolutions?
25:39Well, what I'm going to do is, you know, now that we've come to a decision, I'll draft
25:44a resolution for the finding statement, and I would see why we couldn't issue, you know,
25:49preliminary approvals for the subdivision and site plan. Those will be spelled out more
25:54in the resolutions approving those actions. But just sequentially speaking, the subdivision
26:02would need to be approved and filed because really, as it stands right now, the commercial
26:08development is proposed.
26:08So, you know, the city's development is proposed on a lot that doesn't currently exist. It's
26:12just a matter of timing. I don't see why we couldn't issue them concurrently. It's just
26:17a matter of, you know, a final approval for the site plan I couldn't envision until that
26:21lot is actually created with real property tax service. But again, you know, the applicant
26:27has done their diligence. They went through the full review, minimized the impact. So,
26:32I don't see why we couldn't, you know, keep it going and getting them towards their approvals
26:36as they're required.
26:37So, are we going to vote on any of those? Are there any other questions? Are there any
26:38other questions?
26:39I don't have a resolution. I'd have them prepared for the next meeting. But again,
26:43I would likely have three resolutions. One would be the finding statement and then there
26:47would be a preliminary on the subdivision as well as a preliminary on the site plan.
26:52Again, just kind of flushed out the conditions in those.
26:55Okay. Okay. Good luck.
26:57Well and over.
26:58And just thank you. Very quickly, there's a letter that's been added to the record as
27:04of this afternoon that I just want to bring to your attention. Greg has it, but I, you
27:08know, I emailed it just minutes before the meeting started. And it is from Douglas Elliman,
27:14Commercial Real Estate, the president of that group, Mike Murphy. And he supports the proposed
27:21design as desired by the applicant. So, there's just an additional piece of information for
27:25your file.
27:26Okay.
27:27And a quick question, are there going to be any commercial signage on 25 on the building
27:35Whatever the code allows.
27:36Whatever the code allows.
27:37Whatever is allowed by the sign ordinance that we have in the town of Rivet, that's
27:42what, that's what will be. And I believe with multiple listings, it's going to be the new,
27:49it's the new signage that's allowed currently.
27:52There would be a directory, I'm assuming there would be a directory sign listing the businesses.
27:57Directory sign, right.
27:58Yeah, I mean in terms of where signage would be located on the building, I mean that's
28:01a different question.
28:02Well, it's right in the sign code. We have to comply with the sign code anyway.
28:05But it wouldn't be on each individual building.
28:06No, there'll be a directory sign in the front.
28:11Right, that's it.
28:12They don't allow that.
28:13In fact, what you see down the road is no longer allowed in the town of Riverhead.
28:19The way it's, we have a new sign code now that was revised years ago, you know, 10 years
28:24ago or something, so.
28:25I realize that the next meeting is January 15th.
28:26It's a month away.
28:27Okay.
28:28All right.
28:29Any last questions?
28:31Okay.
28:32Thank you.
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29:10Summerwinds?
29:11Yes.
29:11Yeah.
29:11Interrupt now.
29:13Please.
29:13Vincent Calvoza.
29:14He's not Summerwinds.
29:15I'm just kidding.
29:16Give me your name for the record.
29:17Vincent Calvoza.
29:18Red's Adventure.
29:19All right.
29:20So this is just a follow-up.
29:22We've received the submission of the preliminary plan application for the Summerwind Farm Major Subdivision.
29:28This is a subdivision of an approximately 30.128-acre parcel, which is located on 200 Peconic Bay Boulevard in Aquebog.
29:37The property is split-zoned between the Residence B-40 and Residence B-80 Zoning Use District.
29:44The Planning Board did approve a as-of-right yield of this property of 19 lots, which demonstrated compliance with all the required zoning elements, as well as the exclusion of wetlands.
29:56Back in September of...
29:58December of 2025, the Board selected its preferred sketch plan, which was a 16-lot sketch plan.
30:05It involves the creation of a proposed roadway to be dedicated to the town of Riverhead, which would serve a number of lots off of Peconic Bay Boulevard.
30:14There's a common driveway to the south end of the property, and then there's two lots that would take access off of the terminus of the Sunup Trail Major Subdivision, which is located to the east.
30:26Since we've...
30:27Okay.
30:28Last spoke, the applicant has received the required tidal wetlands permit for the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation.
30:37They require that permit because they're within the 300-foot tidal wetland jurisdiction.
30:42So they received DEC permits.
30:46The proposed action is a Type 1 action.
30:48It involves disturbance in excess of 10 acres.
30:52I did distribute secret coordination materials back on November 3rd.
30:56We have received no objection to the...
30:58Okay.
30:58...the Board's lead agency request.
31:00As a standard practice, I just will recommend prior to the issuance of a determination of significance that the applicant's map and plan with the Riverhead Water District be completed so that we can understand...
31:11Both the Board can understand as well as the applicant can understand what the required improvements to provide the parcel with public water...
31:19...or what improvements will be required.
31:23The previous version of the plan had called for the elimination or abandonment...
31:28...of an existing 16-foot wide right-of-way, a farm right-of-way on the eastern portion of the property.
31:35The applicant did some investigative work, and it turns out there are other properties who have a vested interest in that right-of-way.
31:43So based on that information, the plans no longer call for the abandonment of that right-of-way.
31:49So that will remain intact as is.
31:51It would be unaffected by the subdivision.
31:54The plans were reviewed by the Suffolk County Planning Commission at its meeting on December 3rd.
31:58The Planning Commission, by their resolution ZSR 25-52, they recommended approval.
32:06There were about 19 comments.
32:11There were no conditions imposed by the Planning Commission.
32:15So really, they're comments for the Board to consider in reviewing the proposed subdivision.
32:22We did, when we were reviewing the sketch plans on this and the yield plan, we did receive...
32:28...a correspondence from the Parks and Rec Superintendent regarding the park and rec fee.
32:33He didn't really feel that this site was appropriate for set-aside land for parks.
32:38So he would like to see the park and rec fee in lieu of the dedication of parkland.
32:45Again, I touched on the DEC title wetlands permit.
32:49DEC did have no objection to the Planning Board acting as lead agency.
32:53They did just provide some comments regarding clearing...
32:57...native...
32:58...relative to the northern long-eared bat.
33:01So basically saying that no tree clearing can occur between March 1st and November 30th of any calendar year.
33:09If they do intend to undertake any type of clearing activities, they would require an incidental taking permit for the New York State DEC.
33:17The applicant did some extensive archaeological work on the site.
33:22That was done in consultation with the New York State Office of Parks, Recreation, and Historic Preservation.
33:28We got a letter from the OPRHP dated April 25th of 2025.
33:34They issued the opinion that no historic properties, including archaeological and or historic resources, would be adversely affected by the undertaking.
33:42With the condition that short-term and long-term avoidance measures outlined in their avoidance plan are implemented.
33:47Those avoidance measures had to do with this area.
33:51I believe it's like a roughly .08 acre area up near Peconic Bay Boulevard.
33:57That is required to be a non-disturbance area.
34:01We did refu...
34:03I did refer the plans to Vincent Gaudiello for his review and comment.
34:07The plans were referred to the Riverhead Water District.
34:11The applicant has paid for the map and plan for the water district extension.
34:16So that's currently being prepared.
34:18And the applicant did file a stormwater pollution prevention plan.
34:22They've got first round comments from the ConsultD...
34:25...from...
34:26...from...
34:27...from our town engineers consultants on that.
34:29We're just waiting for Vinnie Gaudiello's comments just to make sure there's no conflicting elements between those two rounds of engineering review.
34:37Other than that, we do have a resolution on to schedule a public hearing on the preliminary plat.
34:44I have that scheduled for the first meeting in November.
34:46It's an evening meeting so it'll afford an opportunity...
34:48Don't you say February?
34:50November.
34:51November? Sorry.
34:52Not going to wait until we do.
34:53Last month is November. Yes. For February. I apologize.
34:57It's an evening meeting so it'll afford members of the public an opportunity to come out and speak on the application.
35:03I will acknowledge earlier today we received a letter from a number of residents.
35:08It was kind of co-signed by the residents of Foxchaser Place.
35:12Again, I'm sure those comments will be submitted for the record when we have a public hearing.
35:17But I distributed that to the board this afternoon.
35:20That will be included on the next planning board meetings agenda correspondence section.
35:26That's it. That's where we're at.
35:28I'll just continue in the review of the application.
35:30Okay. So we'll have a public hearing.
35:32Mr. Chairman, I'm extremely happy with them putting the entrance and exit for the reason that I just...
35:38Agreed.
35:39What is that little building in the open space area?
35:44So this is... So this is... This one?
35:47Joe, you're talking about this one on the map?
35:49Yes.
35:50So this is the building that we're going to be building in the open space area.
35:53So this is... So this is... This one?
35:55This one on the map?
35:56Yes.
35:57So these are proposed... I mean, there is a much greater level of detail on this preliminary plot than is actually required.
36:04You know, when we talk about a subdivision, we typically don't show proposed dwellings, proposed driveways.
36:11We're really creating the lots.
36:13You know, we're not looking to bind, you know, Mr. Calvoso or any potential future owner of a lot that they wish to develop.
36:20These are just done for demonstrative purposes to demonstrate that they meet the, you know, required setbacks for the subdivision.
36:25But this is... So this is a farm lot.
36:28It is a retained area, so they could... You know, it is one of the buildable areas.
36:32But this would be the preservation area back here, as well as, you know, they're really creating two sort of separate...
36:40Two separate farm lots.
36:42And, you know, we've had... The Board has had numerous discussions on the sketch plan aspect of this.
36:48You know, I think this plan has sort of respected neighboring residents in terms of keeping existing vistas,
36:55where they exist, keeping the tracts of farmland.
36:58You know, there were other options that the Board looked at that basically developed these entire areas.
37:03So this would be the developable area for this lot number five, with the remainder of this area being the agricultural open space.
37:12The entranceway for the first few lots here.
37:18The common driveway?
37:19Yeah.
37:20Is that going to be a town road at all?
37:22Nope.
37:23That will be a private...
37:24That will be a private common driveway.
37:26There would have to be an easement placed over that that describes interest of the lots that have access over that.
37:33That is not built to town standards, so that will not be dedicated to the town of Riverhead.
37:38The last question is, the end of the road, would a cul-de-sac work better?
37:45A circular instead of those two little...
37:49Yeah.
37:50Absolutely.
37:51Mr. Chairman.
37:52And to answer your question regarding the...
37:53To answer your question in regards to the design of the common driveway, it actually is adhering to most of the town standards as far as turning radius and the fire apparatus turnaround.
38:05That's actually a detail that has come out of the fire code for the turnaround of the fire trucks.
38:12So that radius at the end, made to blend in as sort of like a driveway turnaround rather than having a roadway, just to kind of keep the natural effect in that section of the development.
38:22So it's there for Sale.
38:23Sale.
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38:52subdivision there are agricultural easements that are placed over any farm lot or any preserved area
38:58that yeah but if it were an undesirable type form of whatever is you know if that's possible
39:07i mean there was some comments made and you know undesirable type farm
39:15there are things that are considered agricultural commodities under new york state market markets
39:19law it's not really i don't think we really have a place to say we approve of that type of farming
39:27or we disapprove of that type of farming if something is considered an agricultural crop
39:31under new york state law i think we'd be hard-pressed to say you can't grow that crop
39:36where agricultural production is permitted all right so for example we we couldn't say vertical
39:42farming would not be allowed couldn't say what i'm just picking it out of the you know what type
39:48of article
39:50it uses for for Sale Sale
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40:19That sort of very clearly, in my opinion, spells out what is permitted to be grown and what we can grow.
40:27And there's a – the New York State Ag and Markets had previously issued an opinion on what's known as vertical farming,
40:35and they consider vertical farming to be agricultural in nature.
40:39I just threw it out there. I'm not saying that's the thing.
40:42No, but I'm just trying to answer your question as fully and completely as I can.
40:45The public hearing will straighten out a lot of this anyway.
40:48I just asked –
40:50In agricultural open space easement, there can be language in there to protect neighboring residents in terms of lot coverage, et cetera.
41:00But I don't think we can get to the level where we can dictate if something is an agricultural crop.
41:05I don't think we can dictate that they can or can't grow it there.
41:08Okay.
41:10If I could just also add that we made application to the Southern County Department of Health Services.
41:16We've been through two rounds of their comments.
41:18And they're –
41:18Basically, at a point pending approval from – or decision from the town, you know, on the secret and the subdivision itself.
41:28Okay.
41:29Anything else, Greg?
41:31Just colleagues?
41:32Good.
41:33Good.
41:33Okay.
41:35Well, we'll see you in the beginning of February.
41:36Thank you.
41:37Thank you.
41:37Thank you.
41:38Thank you.
41:39All right.
41:42Number five.
41:43Cauliflower Square, also known as Long Island Cauliflower Association.
41:47Good, Greg.
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41:53How are you doing, Mr. Chairman?
41:59Good.
42:00How are you, Mr. Chairman?
42:01You're crying every day.
42:02Let's give you names for the record, please.
42:07Richard Israel, Richmond Realty, 889 Harrison Avenue, Riverhead, New York.
42:13So very brief follow-up on the discussion that we last had about what's now known as
42:18the Cauliflower Square, previously known as the Long Island Cauliflower Association Site
42:21Plan.
42:23The applicant had submitted a Site Plan Amendment application to essentially reconfigure the
42:30Chick-fil-A portion of the site, keeping all of the components of the Site Plan intact,
42:35including access on 58, both accesses on Mill Road, mitigation along Mill Road, including
42:41the inclusion of a left-hand northbound turn lane.
42:45The application, the amendment sought to reconfigure.
42:48The orientation of the Chick-fil-A building was previously proposed over here, reconfigured
42:53the interior parking lot.
42:56Where we last left off with the planning board was the really what I'll call the beefing
43:01up of the landscaping plan along 58.
43:05Based on discussions and the work through that the applicant did with the fire marshal
43:09in the Riverhead Water District, they had to jack underneath County Route 58 to bring
43:14water service.
43:15Basically, at two locations on the site.
43:16So, the plan was to bring water service to the site.
43:17One being along 58, the other being at the north end of the site on Mill Road.
43:23So there is an RPZ along 58.
43:27The landscaping plan, the applicant came in and worked with Matt and Heather, our resident
43:31Green Thumbs, to provide a very robust landscaping plan that will help beautify the property
43:37and screen the property, screen that RPZ specifically.
43:42What they've provided is a very robust native landscaping plan that will really probably
43:47be one of the nicer landscaping, landscape sites on 58 once it's completed.
43:52Beyond that, again, no additional secret review.
43:58The secret analysis that we did for this project through its, it's gone through several different
44:03iterations.
44:04The traffic impact statement analyzed the, essentially, I don't want to call it the worst
44:08case scenario, but it analyzed the most intense development of the property, which was three
44:13drive-through restaurants and a traditional sit-down restaurant.
44:14The site plan had since been completed.
44:15So, we're going to be doing a lot of work on that.
44:16Okay.
44:17So, the site plan has been amended to those three northern buildings two, three, and four,
44:21our proposed medical office.
44:23But again, we analyzed the most intense use and incorporated all those mitigating measures
44:27into the site.
44:28So, I have a resolution to approve the amended site plan inclusive of all this.
44:33There are some just additional, some minor changes before the plans are signed by the
44:40chairman and before we run off additional sets.
44:43I just want to make sure that all those changes have been incorporated.
44:46Are there any changes for Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale
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45:15that's just in other words those two converge converging together and i'm just wondering what
45:21exactly is that is that going to be a a traffic light or in the center there traffic light so
45:30there is no trap there is no traffic light in the interior you know in this in this portion
45:36uh they are redoing the traffic signal on mill road but there is no you know i'm just looking
45:40at that intersection where where the two roads where the the county road follows to the to the
45:51right and then the main entrance off of mill road there's a set something in the center there that's
45:58that's enough so you're talking about if you're looking at the screen are you talking about this
46:01box right there yes that's a sign that says yeah which is required by the
46:10fire zone i mean that's just a sign that indicates fire zone so there's really going to be a merge
46:16there of the two entrances there will be a well it's it's the exit of the chick-fil-a site onto
46:24where people would decide whether they're heading east or west they're heading west they should make
46:29a left-hand turn there uh and then lead to that westerly service road we'll call it that leads
46:36out to 58 and continues on yeah they could go both ways yeah and
46:40and if they're heading east they must make a right-hand turn get to mill road come to the
46:46light at mill road and make a yeah it just seems that you have the you have people coming in from
46:51this from old country old country road as well as mill road there's going to be a convergence there
46:58so a person who's going to make that right-hand turn off of uh old country road they're either
47:05going to continue on to the other sites to the north or they're going to make a right
47:10and lead into the chick-fil-a site that's right so there's no also meet this people coming in the
47:17other way from mill road and i'm just saying people coming in from the mill road so a jam the
47:24the island that you see that's in the middle or the marking designates that at least people will
47:31stay within their lanes especially by that traffic and i believe that it's a double lane at that point
47:40is a you know so one thing they want to create a turning lane within because that's just going to
47:48confuse people even more the more lines that there are and i think that's what the planners figured
47:55out i think that's what young and young figured out was to just keep it flowing we don't see this
48:02as having hundreds of that as a sign or a marking sign for directions so i i noticed that you got
48:08the cars coming in on that side of the road and then you're going to have to make a right-hand turn
48:10of it and you've got the and you got the cars coming in from mill road from uh old country road
48:17the same spot so there is there's going to be a convergence there and i'm just worried that at some
48:25point there might be a lot of traffic so i mean one thing that i would maybe we can you know amend
48:32the resolution if you want we can incorporate you know the painting in the intersection here do not
48:38block the box just in case you want to do that but i think that's a good point i think that's a good
48:40point i think that's a good point i think that's a good point i think that's a good point
48:41concern of potential congestion and conflicting traffic movements that way this area remains
48:45clear for someone coming into the site to make a left this area should remain clear for someone
48:51going into the drive-through it is also the entrance itself it seems to me it's got it you
48:58have 24 feet listed there but it would seem to me that they might want a little bit you might want
49:03to take something on that i don't know what the hell where it would be on on the other side there
49:10and just shorten that instead of it being from the street make it a little wider so white widen this
49:17the the throat of this opening into the chick-fil-a site 24 feet yeah it is 24 feet yeah i
49:23mean if that was widened a bit i mean again i you know when we go out and do an inspection i mean if
49:27it's why as long as it meets code which is 24 feet if it was larger and a little bit wider you know
49:33i would consider that a field change i mean i think the applicant if they desire i wouldn't
49:37have when i go out to do when i go out to do it to the restaurant i'm going to
49:40have to go up that way yes yeah i mean every yes everyone coming in you want them to remain in a
49:46single file as you widen entrances people say oh i can fit next to that guy that guy's making
49:51the left turn i'm going to sleep into here we want that in order for it to be truly safe the
49:57person that's here has to make the determination if they're making a left okay we don't want a
50:04person coming to the side of them to make the right to pass by because he can't see
50:10the what you're suggesting that person coming up that westerly thing and and making that right
50:17he can't see him and he doesn't know is that person going to turn into chick or did he just
50:23cut through because he missed his mill road and just the last question then is for the people
50:28going out of the big chick-fil-a and they parked and they go up they can only make a right turn
50:36no they can make a left turn actually the state wants them or the county
50:40i believe there's another sign directly across from that that tells people if you're going to
50:48495 or heading west on old country make a left because they want them to travel down there
50:55and exit that way and not clog the mill road exit you know like you're going to have okay
51:03it's going to be a nice idea i think that's a good one yeah i mean that that simple road
51:10striping um i mean that's not that's not significant uh you know i will say and mr
51:15israel will confirm that you know this change was requested by chick-fil-a and i will say
51:20chick-fil-a and all their locations that i've seen they do very well in terms of traffic management
51:26a couple years ago they built one over by my parents house in smithtown
51:31and i heard comments i sort of listened in on that just because i was interested and i'm you know in
51:35the business there were concerns you know there was going to be overwhelming traffic you know it
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52:10capacity within the site rather than creating a congestion choke point that
52:16doesn't do well for their business or you know the surrounding community so
52:19I'm pretty confident that chick-fil-a will manage their traffic well on site I
52:24have a question about the RPZ on route 58 I see you have plantings around it and
52:31what but I think that we should have something substantial in front of it to
52:35stop cars if there's an accident distracted drivers if they crash into
52:40that RPZ because of its proximity to 58 they spoke with Frank Mancini he says
52:45that thing has the potential to pop out a thousand gallons a minute if it's
52:49broken thousand gallons a minute if it takes the water department a half hour
52:54to get there that's over 30,000 gallons of water that could wreak some havoc on
52:58your property and on 58 could wash out your land
53:02lately put bollards around it in the lake but that is it's 15 feet deep
53:10you can't get it out of the water it's a 15 feet deep it's a 15 feet deep
53:10back but I don't care about nothing I'm sorry but I can gladly put bollards or
53:16some protection but we're also looking for beautification so I understand but if
53:20if the bollards or something is behind the greenery then at least if they go
53:26through the trees at least the bollards could stop them before they they hit
53:30that RPZ with that that's weak there'll be so many bollards on this property
53:35protecting other things it's it's it's a couple that would be something that
53:39would be
53:40you know be worth you know putting in there for your protection and for the
53:43town's protection they would probably do that anyway but I may not be on the plan
53:50okay you know but I mean what would I mean what because this came up I mean it
53:59sort of echoes not that it was protecting an RPZ but when I reviewed
54:03the old Pizza Hut site on the corner of the traffic circle and Roanoke there was
54:07a low blocked retaining wall I mean again it's a lot of work to do to get it
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54:40You've got to remember there's an entire structure over that.
54:43There's a hot box.
54:44Right, but what are they rated for as far as impact?
54:47I have no idea.
54:48I'm just trying to protect this thing from having a potential problem in the future,
54:53like for yourself and for the town.
54:56Correct, but we also have signage, pilot signs and things like that.
55:01If people hit them, they're going to.
55:03But I understand your concept of the water.
55:05Would it be possible, Mr. Israel, to incorporate a low sort of block wall there?
55:11I mean, it provides attractive aesthetics.
55:15I'd probably have to go back to the county because we're allowing the county to do their taking.
55:21A couple of pilots would probably do it.
55:24Well, again, metal doesn't hurt us.
55:30I mean, this is not a $300,000 project.
55:33What's going into the ground?
55:35We're not here.
55:36And after Chick-fil-A has finished up with us, it's millions of dollars to do a simple site.
55:42Right.
55:43And you see that happening as we speak.
55:45And the whole water main thing is a sore subject because there was no, in my opinion, no reason for it.
55:55But the Riverhead Water wanted it, and the fire commissioners wanted it.
56:01And Chick-fil-A doesn't.
56:04You know, we.
56:05We've just put a massive amount of landscaping in front of here.
56:09And we just had conversations with Chick-fil-A to tell them this is what's necessary.
56:15As you know, in this town, I try to work with everybody.
56:20I try to keep all our sites clean, neat, and everything else.
56:24So I don't mind landscaping.
56:26Retail tenants do.
56:29You know, as we can see with our car dealers and everything else, they don't want anything blocked.
56:34They want you to.
56:35You know, they want to see that car parked right at the thing.
56:39But.
56:39But.
56:40So I have to give some respect to Chick-fil-A that they're coming here.
56:44They're making.
56:46They themselves are making a massive investment.
56:49We want them to succeed.
56:50So we don't need to put them behind our varieties.
56:54Heather and Matt have done a great job.
56:57And the like.
56:59So I think we're there.
57:00I don't know how to protect this RPZ.
57:05I'm going to give it.
57:07I'm going to give it.
57:07I'm going to give it.
57:09I'm going to give it.
57:10I'm going to give it.
57:11I'm going to give it.
57:12that so we'll try to protect it as best we can the water meter is before it go
57:21sorry no the water meter is before that RPC so it will be easily to shut it off
57:29in both locations you know that the water department has required us
57:34actually to connect this and run it to the north and it will also somehow feed
57:41you know it's a loop so nice if the shutoffs are on higher ground because if
57:47it does flood it won't shut it if someone hits this RPC valve it's not
57:52going to be shut off there it's going to be destroyed we're gonna go back to the
57:54meter and cut it off there and where is that located about ten feet or five feet
58:01away it's right before the RPC valve the meter that comes off the town your water
58:06first goes into a water meter then the RPC valve
58:10okay
58:11okay
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1:00:11Classifying action pursuant to CEQA and grants administrative approval for the site plan of bread and butter.
1:00:17Second.
1:00:18Moved and seconded.
1:00:19Mr. Zernicki.
1:00:20Mr. Hogan.
1:00:21Mr. Nenera.
1:00:22Mr. Baer.
1:00:23And I vote aye that resolution carries.
1:00:26I move resolution 2025-117, Cauliflower Square.
1:00:29I'm sorry, just before we get to the motion, I will recommend the amendment that I discussed.
1:00:37Third page, first resolve on the third page.
1:00:40Going to add condition number 1.iv.
1:00:45Plan shall be revised to show impact protection measures around the RPZ on County Route 58.
1:00:52Perfect.
1:00:53So I guess move it as amended.
1:00:57As amended.
1:00:58Okay.
1:00:58So the resolution granting approval for the amendment to the previously approved site application for Long Island Cauliflower Association as amended.
1:01:06So moved.
1:01:07Second.
1:01:07Moved and seconded.
1:01:08Mr. Zernicki.
1:01:09As amended.
1:01:10Mr. Hogan.
1:01:11As amended.
1:01:12Mr. Nenera.
1:01:13Mr. Baer.
1:01:15And I vote aye that the motion carries.
1:01:17Resolution 2025-118, Summerwind Farm Major Subdivision.
1:01:22Resolution to schedule a public hearing on a preliminary plat for a 16-lot residential subdivision.
1:01:30Second.
1:01:31Moved and seconded.
1:01:32What's the date of that public hearing?
1:01:35First, February 5th.
1:01:37Okay.
1:01:38Thank you.
1:01:38Did we have somebody move it?
1:01:40Second?
1:01:41Second?
1:01:42Moved and seconded.
1:01:43Mr. Zernicki.
1:01:44Mr. Hogan.
1:01:45Mr. Nenera.
1:01:46Mr. Baer.
1:01:47And I vote aye.
1:01:48The motion carries.
1:01:49Okay.
1:01:50At this time, public comments on all matters.
1:01:55Okay.
1:01:56No takers.
1:01:56November 20th.
1:01:59Yeah.
1:02:00So moved.
1:02:00Second.
1:02:01Moved and seconded for the minutes.
1:02:03Mr. Zernicki.
1:02:05Mr. Hogan.
1:02:06Mr. Nenera.
1:02:07Mr. Baer.
1:02:08And I vote aye.
1:02:09The motion carries.
1:02:10Thank you.
1:02:11Thank you.
1:02:11Greg, any secret?
1:02:12Okay.
1:02:12We'll look into the December 4th meeting.
1:02:18I didn't put them on the agenda because I wanted you guys to have a chance to look at them.
1:02:22So next meeting.
1:02:24Any other business staff, correspondents?
1:02:27Nobody wrote to us?
1:02:30The next meeting is going to be Thursday, January 15th, 2026.
1:02:35We are going to make a motion to go into executive session to have a discussion with
1:02:40legal counsel.
1:02:41We're not going to come back and do any town business.
1:02:44So if you folks want to leave, you can.
1:02:47We're going to open the meeting back up and then close it officially.
1:02:50But there will be no further town business conducted tonight.
1:02:55And everybody have a safe and happy holiday, please.
1:02:58Merry Christmas.
1:02:58Same to you.
1:02:59Merry Christmas.
1:02:59And thank you for all you do.
1:03:02Thank you.
1:03:03The group.
1:03:04Thank you.
1:03:04We appreciate it.
1:03:06Okay.
1:03:08Somebody want to make a motion to go into executive session?
1:03:09Second.
1:03:11Second.
1:03:11Move the second on favor?
1:03:47Sale.
1:03:49Sale.
1:03:51Sale.
1:03:54Sale.
1:03:56Sale.
1:04:00Sale.
1:04:04Sale.
1:04:06Sale.
1:04:08Sale.
1:04:09You're willing to work with us.
1:04:19Okay, we're on.
1:04:21We voted to go back into public session.
1:04:24Do we have a motion to close the meeting?
1:04:25So moved.
1:04:26Motion.
1:04:27Moved and seconded.
1:04:28All in favor?
1:04:29All opposed?
1:04:30Motion carries.
1:04:31Have a great holiday, everybody.
1:04:32Merry Christmas.
1:04:34Happy New Year.
1:04:34See you next year.
1:04:39Merry Christmas.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Welcome. We have no public hearing, so we're going to get right into discussion items. Number one with Heather. Dave's heart check. Do we have anybody here for the application? No. Okay. It's pretty straightforward. For the record, Heather Trojanski, planner. As the board recalls, you recently approved a site plan for the former Friendly site at 949 Old Country Road in Riverhead. Resolution number 2024-092, dated December 5th of 2024. That was for all the site work that's going to be occurring on the site, including a drive-through for a Qdoba. And at the time of review, the property owner, there was an unspecified traditional sit-down restaurant tenant. At this time, Dave's Hot Chicken is looking to fill that space. So they're coming in for some proposed facade work. And just open them up here. So this is strictly. For the western half of the building, all of the elevations that were approved with the Qdoba approval are remaining. The ARB did review the elevations at their meeting on December 3rd of 2025. They did approve the facade changes subject to removing red coping at the roof and change to a gray to match what's on the Qdoba side. And then remove the red coping and rear sign on the south elevation. So the plans that you have today and that are here actually reflect. Those changes. These do not. Sorry. It's. Sorry. I'm being loud with the papers. What was the question? Qdoba. Is that. Are they open yet? Not yet. I think they might have permits. I'm not 100% sure if they've started their associated site work. But all of like the paving, landscaping, lighting upgrades, that's all remaining the same. And actually, the resolution I just gave to the city is that they will be open until December 5th. So that's the plan. And then we're going to be able to move on to the next step. So we're going to be able to move on to the next step. So we're going to be able to move on to the next step. So we're going to be able to move on to the next step. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. Are there any helt. like the whole site is originally um dave's hot chicken had come with like a light bar on top which they ended up changing so it's just that sort of dark gray coping to match it's not lit up here if their signs are going to be lit those will be separate applications made to the building department and they will you know be dark sky compliant so other than that not a huge change the architect and engineer did request one change for the rear entrance on the original qdoba site plan approval they had stairs going to the two um tenant entrances they're just changing it to a ramp so it's not going to be any bigger um just a ramp i guess for ease of access for any vendors making deliveries but nothing else in the approved site plan is changing there was another question that we had talked about in that site uh behind it with the fence there was a fence issue i don't know because gregory do you remember the fence issue greg between the two parcels uh i mean vaguely exactly what it was don't quote me so the qdoba um the owners or they they agreed to replace the fence on their side i know that it had been pushed in when we had discussed it originally and on the qdoba site plan which i actually have here the approved site plan they do show a replacement fence and i remember the board saying that they did not want to see a pvc fence because they tend to break in the winter time so yes they're showing um a six foot high chain link fence with brown vinyl slats to be replaced as necessary that was part of their original approval and the stock the plans are signed but wasn't there an access to the parcel behind it so that was a future cross access we had a very lengthy discussion with the property owner and it turns out that there was already an act cross access file to a future cross access so at at this time there's no need to open anything but in the future if an adjacent parcel comes in we discovered that the cross access actually runs along both of these property lines and I believe Jackie Jacqueline Peranto actually put that on the survey on the site yeah she has the easement plan here I don't know if you can see it or not but it shows mutual access easement so again future cross access meaning it's not getting developed right now but if this rear parcel comes in we had a very lengthy discussion about that Heather real quick because the Chicken Place has no drive through with the amount of seating is there plenty parking yeah so the seating for the total square footage between both tenants it was calculated and they're actually over parked I believe so again all the parking that was proposed as um the original site plan the number of seats in Dave's Hot Chicken is compliant with that so they're not exceeding the amount amount of seats that was under the original approval. That's for health department standards, for parking standards. They're really just coming in to do their facade work, which they had a different plan originally, and we finally got them to a place where the ARB approved it. So other than that, no other changes. With the ARB's changes that they considered, is that part of this? Did you change that? Did you incorporate them in the changes? Yes, so the plans that I just handed you, and the plans that are up on the screen, screen show the coping change, and then they had additional artwork and signage back here. That's all gone. So they went to the gray and the... Yes, so originally they had some additional coping and artwork here, that's gone. And then all of the coping on top is now that darker color to match. Graffiti to me, cracked walls. If ARB approved it, I guess. It was... The original design was much more busy than what's approved. So we sort of came to a happy medium. And again, the ARB, this is toned down from what they originally submitted. Anybody else? Nope, no one good. Good, thank you, Heather. Okay, item number two, bread, butter, and bottle, with Marissa.

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the planning department received an application perfect in regards to the subcanny tax amount number 600-20-4-2 also known as 5087 Sound Avenue which is the Sound Avenue liquor and grocery store formally so currently they are looking to just further enhance the aesthetic and functionality of the site so the the uses are to remain the same and it's gonna be the existing so it's gonna be another grocery and liquor store currently the project site is located within a busy zoning use district it's an improved parcel containing two structures one commercial one mix use again there is no further additions or anything they're just looking to redo the exterior siding the windows they're looking to do the roof replacements and update the existing lighting features so pretty much also within here they're looking to do they're showing the adequate parking this is updated from what you guys currently have because one of my recommendations when I do my ! ! айайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайайай out. One of my recommendations was the just to at least show the dumpster location because I know that that was a recommendation that the board was going to look at. So the provided plan that he that the architect has given to show in front of you and up on the screen, I believe does have the dumpster location at this time. There's room for it. It's not actually shown on here. It's going to go right here. Okay. Okay. So you said there's two buildings there. Obviously, there's the main building. And then you want this next door? What's going on there? So it's still the existing uses are to remain the same. So currently, this building is currently well, it was utilized as the Sound Avenue liquor store that is to be the same. So it's going to be a liquor store again. Yes. And then this currently is a grocery store. And it's going to remain as a grocery store with a there is a apartment above and that is to remain the same. The only other changes that were proposed were there is garage doors to the rear side. Currently that goes underneath. So this comes down. And they're proposing to remove those and close them. So it's just going to be an accessory storage below for that grocery store. Is there anything that could be done with that telephone pole right in the middle of the parking lot? We've been actually talking about reaching out, presumably to the New York State DOT for that to it is in a bad location. Yeah. My client would like to improve the entrance entrances and exits in the in the parking lot. And we have talked about that. Yeah. So you're going to do a curbing? Sorry, curbing may go in and designated in and out. Possibly we haven't actually met with the DOT or anyone yet. And so public works. I thought that Sound Avenue was a state road. That's Yeah. Yeah, that's great. So I mean, for this application purpose, right now, it's for just to do the further, like enhance the aesthetic of it just to put new siding and windows. If you chose to do that route, we could always, you would just have to go and get the approvals from town. And we could talk to the highway department and things of that nature and see what they say about that. Heather, you said, Oh, Marissa. Sorry. Four new spots, parking spots. Yes. So originally, it was shown on the plan that you have in front. The board has in front of them. It showed seven spots. What from the parking calculation it was shown that 11 was needed. So additional for would have had to be provided. Yep. And then yeah, the other two were for the back for the apartment purposes. So it would be a total of 11. And then there was also recommended that the handicaps. One of the 11 spaces. be for handicap ADA purposes, which is shown here. Any further need to go to health department? No, just because the uses are remaining the same. So there's really not a need to go to health department. So it's been ongoing as it hasn't worked? Correct. Have you heard anything back from the fire marshal on it? So the I did send it out to the town river fire marshal. He had no further comments. I did also refer out to the town engineer. The two comments that he had was asking to complete a soil boring, which it believe that done yesterday. This was new to me. But good. So the soil boring and then he just wanted further information in regards to the details and specs of the new electrical the new electrical fixtures, which I believe I did attach. And then we also have it put on this updated plan as well. The only other thing that I wrote as any of the conditions was just to meet the town engineers comments, which seemed to be rectified, and that the exterior lighting is to comply with the town code. And to the proposed dumpster location. It can be shown if possible. And that was about it. Because the parking has been addressed and shown on this plan. Is the entire facility lighting compliant at the end of the day? So with currently the existing lighting, they're looking to upgrade the fixtures so that they are going to be dark skies compliant with the town code. As they are right now, I'm not sure. I can speak to that. There was a very large sodium incandescent light from the 1970s. It's got put in the dumpster. Okay. And now we've got all dark sky compliant. Is there going to be a new street sign, the old one taken down, or is that part of this plan? The old signs are going to remain. They work. We had them relamped. And there will be a separate sign application from the new street sign application. So we're going to be replacing the windows. Okay. And the new street sign application will be from going signs from Huntington. Just one more question, getting back to the fire marshal. The apartment above is going to remain as is, correct? Yes. But you're going to replace the windows? Yes. Right, according to the plan? Yes. So I mean, they're replacing from, it's replacing like and kind. In regards to the windows, were you referencing like the... Egress. Yeah. So that would be with the building department as well. Okay. So that would be the plan. Okay. So that would be the plan. Okay. So that would be the plan. Okay. So that would be the plan. Okay. So that would be the plan. Okay. So that would be the plan. Okay.

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Let's get everybody's names. Greg Bergenowski, 533 Elm Street, Riverhead. Mike Kelly for TJOC. Larry Davis, attorney for TJOC. Matthew Elbert, R&M Engineering, site civil engineer. Jake Borey, NPV, Melville. Greg Bergman, senior planner, town of Riverhead. So what we have is just a quick discussion for the next few minutes. The TJOC Real Estate Holdings LLC, a draft finding statement for the major subdivision and site plan. Just a quick brief backstory on it. This is both a major subdivision application as well as a site plan seeking to subdivide an existing 15.87-acre parcel. The proposed major subdivision will create seven single-family residential lots, one lot dedicated for an on-site sewage treatment plan, a roadway proposed to be dedicated to the town of Riverhead, and a roadway to the town of Riverhead. The project will be a joint water management parcel as well as a retention of a 4.98 mixed-use zoned commercial parcel up on the front, the south portion of the property on Mill Country Road. So we went through the full Seeker Review process on this. It was a type one action. The board issued a POSDEC. We went through public scoping, submission of a draft environmental impact statement. We had public hearings on that. A final environmental impact statement was prepared. And what I did, we had a discussion on this at the end of the year. At the planning board meeting on November 20th, you know, there were two different, I basically prepared two identical finding statements with one exception dealing with the alternative layout of the site. The applicant had made their position, you know, for the desired layout. So I basically did one finding statement with the applicant's preferred design and one app, one finding statement with the alternative design with the building rotated. The applicant, you know, the applicant yesterday afternoon submitted a letter in support of the applicant's preferred design, which I distributed to the board. So really to just go through and get the board's opinion on which way they'd like to go. I wasn't really clear when we left the last discussion on this. So I just wanted to present the board with basically two different finding statements. In the end, we still get to the same. There is a positive findings on this, meaning that any potential impact will be mitigated with the incorporation. So the idea of the incorporation of the sewage treatment plant, the proposed eastbound left turn lane into the site and all of the mitigation that has been designed into the project. We still get to the same goal. It's still, it's just a question of which alternative or the preferred alternative for the applicant. Alrighty. I reviewed their letter. I find it to be reasonable. I mean, I think it's a business decision. It does meet the criteria of the code in law, and I think it's a personal business opinion which will lay out work best for you. So, for one, I'm happy to go with the applicant's thing. I understand Kenny's point, too. It's a good point, but the applicant wants us this way. It meets the criteria of the law. For me, I'm all right with it. I have to reiterate exactly what he said. I feel the same way. You guys are better at this than I think we are. I do know from my years being involved in real estate that the retail portion of it is a major thing for you guys, and I don't believe that we should be telling you how to do it. I think it's your money. You can't come back and say because we changed the orientation, now we're going to do it. We can't rent a place. What do we do? I agree with it. I'm the same. Same way. It's a decision that you guys have to make. It kind of reminded me of the shops out at the Eastwind. You really don't see them from the highway. They're kind of tucked away, but yet those stores, they all do very well for themselves, and there's really no advertising or anything there either, similar to your project. I'm comfortable with it. Thank you. Thank you. Gentlemen, you know my feelings, and I just one more time explain it. That with this picture, there's nothing that screams to me about any commercial whatsoever. Today I sat for 15 minutes right next to Malowski's farm, just 15 minutes. There were 14 large vehicles, large trucks. Eight of them were tractor trailers just in 15 minutes, and at 55 to 60 miles an hour, they do make a lot of noise. And just picture yourself sitting in one of the apartments for 24 hours on a Saturday or whatever, and that's one of the points that I'm trying to bring out. Take this and just move it around, and now 90% of those residents won't be anywhere near the road as they are on the other end. And I know the commercial part of it is very... That's a good point. But Tanger One has 20 stores that are empty, and if you're putting all your money on the commercial, that's a tough sell for me. I think the residential is as important as the commercial is, and I feel that the people I've shown these plans to, they all say to me, why would I want to live 25 to 50 feet on a road? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? streets in the town of Riverhead that you do live near and the apartments on Main Street, but you only do it five or ten miles an hour. And that's my biggest concern when I hear the people in our community, what they tell me. I have no objection to the project. It's just that I feel that to just reverse it, even because not a shovel has been in the ground, just to reverse it would be a benefit to you guys and to the town of Riverhead, in my opinion. Thanks, guys. Okay. Well, you made some great points, Kenny, but I think there's a quorum that will go with the applicant's ideas. But your point, Mr. Allen, is a very quick point. Mr. Chairman, I just want to make a point. So, Greg, you're going to add that resolution, because I noticed it wasn't on the – I figured it wasn't on the resolutions because you had to make which one. So what are the resolutions? Well, what I'm going to do is, you know, now that we've come to a decision, I'll draft a resolution for the finding statement, and I would see why we couldn't issue, you know, preliminary approvals for the subdivision and site plan. Those will be spelled out more in the resolutions approving those actions. But just sequentially speaking, the subdivision would need to be approved and filed because really, as it stands right now, the commercial development is proposed. So, you know, the city's development is proposed on a lot that doesn't currently exist. It's just a matter of timing. I don't see why we couldn't issue them concurrently. It's just a matter of, you know, a final approval for the site plan I couldn't envision until that lot is actually created with real property tax service. But again, you know, the applicant has done their diligence. They went through the full review, minimized the impact. So, I don't see why we couldn't, you know, keep it going and getting them towards their approvals as they're required. So, are we going to vote on any of those? Are there any other questions? Are there any other questions? I don't have a resolution. I'd have them prepared for the next meeting. But again, I would likely have three resolutions. One would be the finding statement and then there would be a preliminary on the subdivision as well as a preliminary on the site plan. Again, just kind of flushed out the conditions in those. Okay. Okay. Good luck. Well and over. And just thank you. Very quickly, there's a letter that's been added to the record as of this afternoon that I just want to bring to your attention. Greg has it, but I, you know, I emailed it just minutes before the meeting started. And it is from Douglas Elliman, Commercial Real Estate, the president of that group, Mike Murphy. And he supports the proposed design as desired by the applicant. So, there's just an additional piece of information for your file. Okay. And a quick question, are there going to be any commercial signage on 25 on the building or? Whatever the code allows. Whatever the code allows. Whatever is allowed by the sign ordinance that we have in the town of Rivet, that's what, that's what will be. And I believe with multiple listings, it's going to be the new, it's the new signage that's allowed currently. There would be a directory, I'm assuming there would be a directory sign listing the businesses. Directory sign, right. Yeah, I mean in terms of where signage would be located on the building, I mean that's a different question. Well, it's right in the sign code. We have to comply with the sign code anyway. But it wouldn't be on each individual building. No, there'll be a directory sign in the front. Right, that's it. They don't allow that. In fact, what you see down the road is no longer allowed in the town of Riverhead. The way it's, we have a new sign code now that was revised years ago, you know, 10 years ago or something, so. I realize that the next meeting is January 15th. It's a month away. Okay. All right. Any last questions? No. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good luck. Good.

Summerwinds? Yes. Yeah. Interrupt now. Please. Vincent Calvoza. He's not Summerwinds. I'm just kidding. Give me your name for the record. Vincent Calvoza. Red's Adventure. All right. So this is just a follow-up. We've received the submission of the preliminary plan application for the Summerwind Farm Major Subdivision. This is a subdivision of an approximately 30.128-acre parcel, which is located on 200 Peconic Bay Boulevard in Aquebog. The property is split-zoned between the Residence B-40 and Residence B-80 Zoning Use District. The Planning Board did approve a as-of-right yield of this property of 19 lots, which demonstrated compliance with all the required zoning elements, as well as the exclusion of wetlands. Back in September of... December of 2025, the Board selected its preferred sketch plan, which was a 16-lot sketch plan. It involves the creation of a proposed roadway to be dedicated to the town of Riverhead, which would serve a number of lots off of Peconic Bay Boulevard. There's a common driveway to the south end of the property, and then there's two lots that would take access off of the terminus of the Sunup Trail Major Subdivision, which is located to the east. Since we've... Okay. Last spoke, the applicant has received the required tidal wetlands permit for the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation. They require that permit because they're within the 300-foot tidal wetland jurisdiction. So they received DEC permits. The proposed action is a Type 1 action. It involves disturbance in excess of 10 acres. I did distribute secret coordination materials back on November 3rd. We have received no objection to the... Okay. ...the Board's lead agency request. As a standard practice, I just will recommend prior to the issuance of a determination of significance that the applicant's map and plan with the Riverhead Water District be completed so that we can understand... Both the Board can understand as well as the applicant can understand what the required improvements to provide the parcel with public water... ...or what improvements will be required. The previous version of the plan had called for the elimination or abandonment... ...of an existing 16-foot wide right-of-way, a farm right-of-way on the eastern portion of the property. The applicant did some investigative work, and it turns out there are other properties who have a vested interest in that right-of-way. So based on that information, the plans no longer call for the abandonment of that right-of-way. So that will remain intact as is. It would be unaffected by the subdivision. The plans were reviewed by the Suffolk County Planning Commission at its meeting on December 3rd. The Planning Commission, by their resolution ZSR 25-52, they recommended approval. There were about 19 comments. There were no conditions imposed by the Planning Commission. So really, they're comments for the Board to consider in reviewing the proposed subdivision. We did, when we were reviewing the sketch plans on this and the yield plan, we did receive... ...a correspondence from the Parks and Rec Superintendent regarding the park and rec fee. He didn't really feel that this site was appropriate for set-aside land for parks. So he would like to see the park and rec fee in lieu of the dedication of parkland. Again, I touched on the DEC title wetlands permit. DEC did have no objection to the Planning Board acting as lead agency. They did just provide some comments regarding clearing... ...native... ...relative to the northern long-eared bat. So basically saying that no tree clearing can occur between March 1st and November 30th of any calendar year. If they do intend to undertake any type of clearing activities, they would require an incidental taking permit for the New York State DEC. The applicant did some extensive archaeological work on the site. That was done in consultation with the New York State Office of Parks, Recreation, and Historic Preservation. We got a letter from the OPRHP dated April 25th of 2025. They issued the opinion that no historic properties, including archaeological and or historic resources, would be adversely affected by the undertaking. With the condition that short-term and long-term avoidance measures outlined in their avoidance plan are implemented. Those avoidance measures had to do with this area. I believe it's like a roughly .08 acre area up near Peconic Bay Boulevard. That is required to be a non-disturbance area. We did refu... I did refer the plans to Vincent Gaudiello for his review and comment. The plans were referred to the Riverhead Water District. The applicant has paid for the map and plan for the water district extension. So that's currently being prepared. And the applicant did file a stormwater pollution prevention plan. They've got first round comments from the ConsultD... ...from... ...from... ...from our town engineers consultants on that. We're just waiting for Vinnie Gaudiello's comments just to make sure there's no conflicting elements between those two rounds of engineering review. Other than that, we do have a resolution on to schedule a public hearing on the preliminary plat. I have that scheduled for the first meeting in November. It's an evening meeting so it'll afford an opportunity... Don't you say February? November. November? Sorry. Not going to wait until we do. Last month is November. Yes. For February. I apologize. It's an evening meeting so it'll afford members of the public an opportunity to come out and speak on the application. I will acknowledge earlier today we received a letter from a number of residents. It was kind of co-signed by the residents of Foxchaser Place. Again, I'm sure those comments will be submitted for the record when we have a public hearing. But I distributed that to the board this afternoon. That will be included on the next planning board meetings agenda correspondence section. That's it. That's where we're at. I'll just continue in the review of the application. Okay. So we'll have a public hearing. Mr. Chairman, I'm extremely happy with them putting the entrance and exit for the reason that I just... Agreed. What is that little building in the open space area? So this is... So this is... This one? Joe, you're talking about this one on the map? Yes. So this is the building that we're going to be building in the open space area. So this is... So this is... This one? This one on the map? Yes. So these are proposed... I mean, there is a much greater level of detail on this preliminary plot than is actually required. You know, when we talk about a subdivision, we typically don't show proposed dwellings, proposed driveways. We're really creating the lots. You know, we're not looking to bind, you know, Mr. Calvoso or any potential future owner of a lot that they wish to develop. These are just done for demonstrative purposes to demonstrate that they meet the, you know, required setbacks for the subdivision. But this is... So this is a farm lot. It is a retained area, so they could... You know, it is one of the buildable areas. But this would be the preservation area back here, as well as, you know, they're really creating two sort of separate... Two separate farm lots. And, you know, we've had... The Board has had numerous discussions on the sketch plan aspect of this. You know, I think this plan has sort of respected neighboring residents in terms of keeping existing vistas, where they exist, keeping the tracts of farmland. You know, there were other options that the Board looked at that basically developed these entire areas. So this would be the developable area for this lot number five, with the remainder of this area being the agricultural open space. The entranceway for the first few lots here. The common driveway? Yeah. Is that going to be a town road at all? Nope. That will be a private... That will be a private common driveway. There would have to be an easement placed over that that describes interest of the lots that have access over that. That is not built to town standards, so that will not be dedicated to the town of Riverhead. The last question is, the end of the road, would a cul-de-sac work better? A circular instead of those two little... Yeah. Absolutely. Mr. Chairman. And to answer your question regarding the... To answer your question in regards to the design of the common driveway, it actually is adhering to most of the town standards as far as turning radius and the fire apparatus turnaround. That's actually a detail that has come out of the fire code for the turnaround of the fire trucks. So that radius at the end, made to blend in as sort of like a driveway turnaround rather than having a roadway, just to kind of keep the natural effect in that section of the development. So it's there for Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. subdivision there are agricultural easements that are placed over any farm lot or any preserved area that yeah but if it were an undesirable type form of whatever is you know if that's possible i mean there was some comments made and you know undesirable type farm there are things that are considered agricultural commodities under new york state market markets law it's not really i don't think we really have a place to say we approve of that type of farming or we disapprove of that type of farming if something is considered an agricultural crop under new york state law i think we'd be hard-pressed to say you can't grow that crop where agricultural production is permitted all right so for example we we couldn't say vertical farming would not be allowed couldn't say what i'm just picking it out of the you know what type of article it uses for for Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale That sort of very clearly, in my opinion, spells out what is permitted to be grown and what we can grow. And there's a – the New York State Ag and Markets had previously issued an opinion on what's known as vertical farming, and they consider vertical farming to be agricultural in nature. I just threw it out there. I'm not saying that's the thing. No, but I'm just trying to answer your question as fully and completely as I can. The public hearing will straighten out a lot of this anyway. I just asked – In agricultural open space easement, there can be language in there to protect neighboring residents in terms of lot coverage, et cetera. But I don't think we can get to the level where we can dictate if something is an agricultural crop. I don't think we can dictate that they can or can't grow it there. Okay. If I could just also add that we made application to the Southern County Department of Health Services. We've been through two rounds of their comments. And they're – Basically, at a point pending approval from – or decision from the town, you know, on the secret and the subdivision itself. Okay. Anything else, Greg? Just colleagues? Good. Good. Okay. Well, we'll see you in the beginning of February. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Number five. Cauliflower Square, also known as Long Island Cauliflower Association. Good, Greg. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. Good. How are you doing, Mr. Chairman? Good. How are you, Mr. Chairman? You're crying every day. Let's give you names for the record, please. Richard Israel, Richmond Realty, 889 Harrison Avenue, Riverhead, New York. So very brief follow-up on the discussion that we last had about what's now known as the Cauliflower Square, previously known as the Long Island Cauliflower Association Site Plan. The applicant had submitted a Site Plan Amendment application to essentially reconfigure the Chick-fil-A portion of the site, keeping all of the components of the Site Plan intact, including access on 58, both accesses on Mill Road, mitigation along Mill Road, including the inclusion of a left-hand northbound turn lane. The application, the amendment sought to reconfigure. The orientation of the Chick-fil-A building was previously proposed over here, reconfigured the interior parking lot. Where we last left off with the planning board was the really what I'll call the beefing up of the landscaping plan along 58. Based on discussions and the work through that the applicant did with the fire marshal in the Riverhead Water District, they had to jack underneath County Route 58 to bring water service. Basically, at two locations on the site. So, the plan was to bring water service to the site. One being along 58, the other being at the north end of the site on Mill Road. So there is an RPZ along 58. The landscaping plan, the applicant came in and worked with Matt and Heather, our resident Green Thumbs, to provide a very robust landscaping plan that will help beautify the property and screen the property, screen that RPZ specifically. What they've provided is a very robust native landscaping plan that will really probably be one of the nicer landscaping, landscape sites on 58 once it's completed. Beyond that, again, no additional secret review. The secret analysis that we did for this project through its, it's gone through several different iterations. The traffic impact statement analyzed the, essentially, I don't want to call it the worst case scenario, but it analyzed the most intense development of the property, which was three drive-through restaurants and a traditional sit-down restaurant. The site plan had since been completed. So, we're going to be doing a lot of work on that. Okay. So, the site plan has been amended to those three northern buildings two, three, and four, our proposed medical office. But again, we analyzed the most intense use and incorporated all those mitigating measures into the site. So, I have a resolution to approve the amended site plan inclusive of all this. There are some just additional, some minor changes before the plans are signed by the chairman and before we run off additional sets. I just want to make sure that all those changes have been incorporated. Are there any changes for Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale Sale that's just in other words those two converge converging together and i'm just wondering what exactly is that is that going to be a a traffic light or in the center there traffic light so there is no trap there is no traffic light in the interior you know in this in this portion uh they are redoing the traffic signal on mill road but there is no you know i'm just looking at that intersection where where the two roads where the the county road follows to the to the right and then the main entrance off of mill road there's a set something in the center there that's that's enough so you're talking about if you're looking at the screen are you talking about this box right there yes that's a sign that says yeah which is required by the fire zone i mean that's just a sign that indicates fire zone so there's really going to be a merge there of the two entrances there will be a well it's it's the exit of the chick-fil-a site onto where people would decide whether they're heading east or west they're heading west they should make a left-hand turn there uh and then lead to that westerly service road we'll call it that leads out to 58 and continues on yeah they could go both ways yeah and and if they're heading east they must make a right-hand turn get to mill road come to the light at mill road and make a yeah it just seems that you have the you have people coming in from this from old country old country road as well as mill road there's going to be a convergence there so a person who's going to make that right-hand turn off of uh old country road they're either going to continue on to the other sites to the north or they're going to make a right and lead into the chick-fil-a site that's right so there's no also meet this people coming in the other way from mill road and i'm just saying people coming in from the mill road so a jam the the island that you see that's in the middle or the marking designates that at least people will stay within their lanes especially by that traffic and i believe that it's a double lane at that point is a you know so one thing they want to create a turning lane within because that's just going to confuse people even more the more lines that there are and i think that's what the planners figured out i think that's what young and young figured out was to just keep it flowing we don't see this as having hundreds of that as a sign or a marking sign for directions so i i noticed that you got the cars coming in on that side of the road and then you're going to have to make a right-hand turn of it and you've got the and you got the cars coming in from mill road from uh old country road the same spot so there is there's going to be a convergence there and i'm just worried that at some point there might be a lot of traffic so i mean one thing that i would maybe we can you know amend the resolution if you want we can incorporate you know the painting in the intersection here do not block the box just in case you want to do that but i think that's a good point i think that's a good point i think that's a good point i think that's a good point i think that's a good point concern of potential congestion and conflicting traffic movements that way this area remains clear for someone coming into the site to make a left this area should remain clear for someone going into the drive-through it is also the entrance itself it seems to me it's got it you have 24 feet listed there but it would seem to me that they might want a little bit you might want to take something on that i don't know what the hell where it would be on on the other side there and just shorten that instead of it being from the street make it a little wider so white widen this the the throat of this opening into the chick-fil-a site 24 feet yeah it is 24 feet yeah i mean if that was widened a bit i mean again i you know when we go out and do an inspection i mean if it's why as long as it meets code which is 24 feet if it was larger and a little bit wider you know i would consider that a field change i mean i think the applicant if they desire i wouldn't have when i go out to do when i go out to do it to the restaurant i'm going to have to go up that way yes yeah i mean every yes everyone coming in you want them to remain in a single file as you widen entrances people say oh i can fit next to that guy that guy's making the left turn i'm going to sleep into here we want that in order for it to be truly safe the person that's here has to make the determination if they're making a left okay we don't want a person coming to the side of them to make the right to pass by because he can't see the what you're suggesting that person coming up that westerly thing and and making that right he can't see him and he doesn't know is that person going to turn into chick or did he just cut through because he missed his mill road and just the last question then is for the people going out of the big chick-fil-a and they parked and they go up they can only make a right turn no they can make a left turn actually the state wants them or the county i believe there's another sign directly across from that that tells people if you're going to 495 or heading west on old country make a left because they want them to travel down there and exit that way and not clog the mill road exit you know like you're going to have okay it's going to be a nice idea i think that's a good one yeah i mean that that simple road striping um i mean that's not that's not significant uh you know i will say and mr israel will confirm that you know this change was requested by chick-fil-a and i will say chick-fil-a and all their locations that i've seen they do very well in terms of traffic management a couple years ago they built one over by my parents house in smithtown and i heard comments i sort of listened in on that just because i was interested and i'm you know in the business there were concerns you know there was going to be overwhelming traffic you know it it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it capacity within the site rather than creating a congestion choke point that doesn't do well for their business or you know the surrounding community so I'm pretty confident that chick-fil-a will manage their traffic well on site I have a question about the RPZ on route 58 I see you have plantings around it and what but I think that we should have something substantial in front of it to stop cars if there's an accident distracted drivers if they crash into that RPZ because of its proximity to 58 they spoke with Frank Mancini he says that thing has the potential to pop out a thousand gallons a minute if it's broken thousand gallons a minute if it takes the water department a half hour to get there that's over 30,000 gallons of water that could wreak some havoc on your property and on 58 could wash out your land lately put bollards around it in the lake but that is it's 15 feet deep you can't get it out of the water it's a 15 feet deep it's a 15 feet deep back but I don't care about nothing I'm sorry but I can gladly put bollards or some protection but we're also looking for beautification so I understand but if if the bollards or something is behind the greenery then at least if they go through the trees at least the bollards could stop them before they they hit that RPZ with that that's weak there'll be so many bollards on this property protecting other things it's it's it's a couple that would be something that would be you know be worth you know putting in there for your protection and for the town's protection they would probably do that anyway but I may not be on the plan okay you know but I mean what would I mean what because this came up I mean it sort of echoes not that it was protecting an RPZ but when I reviewed the old Pizza Hut site on the corner of the traffic circle and Roanoke there was a low blocked retaining wall I mean again it's a lot of work to do to get it down it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's 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There's a hot box. Right, but what are they rated for as far as impact? I have no idea. I'm just trying to protect this thing from having a potential problem in the future, like for yourself and for the town. Correct, but we also have signage, pilot signs and things like that. If people hit them, they're going to. But I understand your concept of the water. Would it be possible, Mr. Israel, to incorporate a low sort of block wall there? I mean, it provides attractive aesthetics. I'd probably have to go back to the county because we're allowing the county to do their taking. A couple of pilots would probably do it. Well, again, metal doesn't hurt us. I mean, this is not a $300,000 project. What's going into the ground? We're not here. And after Chick-fil-A has finished up with us, it's millions of dollars to do a simple site. Right. And you see that happening as we speak. And the whole water main thing is a sore subject because there was no, in my opinion, no reason for it. But the Riverhead Water wanted it, and the fire commissioners wanted it. And Chick-fil-A doesn't. You know, we. We've just put a massive amount of landscaping in front of here. And we just had conversations with Chick-fil-A to tell them this is what's necessary. As you know, in this town, I try to work with everybody. I try to keep all our sites clean, neat, and everything else. So I don't mind landscaping. Retail tenants do. You know, as we can see with our car dealers and everything else, they don't want anything blocked. They want you to. You know, they want to see that car parked right at the thing. But. But. So I have to give some respect to Chick-fil-A that they're coming here. They're making. They themselves are making a massive investment. We want them to succeed. So we don't need to put them behind our varieties. Heather and Matt have done a great job. And the like. So I think we're there. I don't know how to protect this RPZ. I'm going to give it. I'm going to give it. I'm going to give it. I'm going to give it. I'm going to give it. I'm going to give it. that so we'll try to protect it as best we can the water meter is before it go sorry no the water meter is before that RPC so it will be easily to shut it off in both locations you know that the water department has required us actually to connect this and run it to the north and it will also somehow feed you know it's a loop so nice if the shutoffs are on higher ground because if it does flood it won't shut it if someone hits this RPC valve it's not going to be shut off there it's going to be destroyed we're gonna go back to the meter and cut it off there and where is that located about ten feet or five feet away it's right before the RPC valve the meter that comes off the town your water first goes into a water meter then the RPC valve okay okay !

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Okay. No takers. November 20th. Yeah. So moved. Second. Moved and seconded for the minutes. Mr. Zernicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. Nenera. Aye. Mr. Baer. Yes. And I vote aye. The motion carries. Yes. Thank you. Thank you. Greg, any secret? Okay. We'll look into the December 4th meeting. I didn't put them on the agenda because I wanted you guys to have a chance to look at them. So next meeting. Any other business staff, correspondents? Nobody wrote to us? Wow. The next meeting is going to be Thursday, January 15th, 2026. We are going to make a motion to go into executive session to have a discussion with legal counsel. We're not going to come back and do any town business. So if you folks want to leave, you can. We're going to open the meeting back up and then close it officially. But there will be no further town business conducted tonight. And everybody have a safe and happy holiday, please. Merry Christmas. Same to you. Merry Christmas. And thank you for all you do. Thank you. The group. Thank you. We appreciate it. Okay. Somebody want to make a motion to go into executive session? Yes. Second. Second. Move the second on favor? Aye. Aye.

Aye. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. Sale. You're willing to work with us. Okay, we're on. We voted to go back into public session. Do we have a motion to close the meeting? So moved. Motion. Moved and seconded. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. Have a great holiday, everybody. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. See you next year.

Merry Christmas.