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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You know, this is what we're waiting for is this permit, you know, approval. But once that's done, it will take about 60 days to complete the project. And you mentioned something about the training for the fire department. That would take place after completion? That's a requirement. It's something that we've kind of provided. So, yes. After completion. After completion. But we're in touch with them already if they have any questions. And there is 24-7 monitoring of the battery that, you know, that keeps track of what's happening within the battery. Do they come out for training as the project advances? Like, I'm sure the project goes in stages. So they'll come out a couple different times at different stages of the project? Typically in this case, because these aren't very large. These are really the size of, you know, several commercial freezers or something. They're not. And so it really isn't that long a process to, you know, to put them in. Okay. But they can. You know, but that's partly why we reached out now. So if there's any question or a desire to do that, we're certainly open to anything, you know, that would be helpful to them. Okay. And the fire alarm request was something that came through the fire marshal's office. So that, you know, that's a nice feature that they have a robust fire alarm system. Yeah. And this can kind of tie into that. So that was something that came through the fire marshal's office. Okay. Does anybody else have anything? Any comments? The only thing I had, I did, there's no sprinkler system. Is there a extinguishing system built in? Within the battery, there is. Within the battery. Okay. Maria, maybe I can. It's a good question. I don't know if you can hold the microphone and state your name, please. Thank you. Just a specific question. So my name's Dennis Quinn. I'm also with Sprocket Power, president and CEO. To your point about the fire suppression system, we're actually, as we go through commissioning, each of those units has a system that, at the request of the fire marshal, we're going to be testing as a function prior to any operation of it to ensure that it works without. Without emitting everything, but there's a whole testing process we'll go through to ensure that the fire marshal, which will be present, so Andrew will be present as we do that testing for them. Because then each battery would have their own suppression. Correct. Because you don't want one affecting the other, you will. Correct. Correct. Yeah. Each has their own individual data flow into the communications that goes to the fire marshal. So we'll be able to know which unit it is if it's a remote notification. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. That's one of the advancements is that they are separated now so that if something happens with one, there's a thermal runaway. Right. Okay. Good. Okay. Anybody on Zoom? Is there anybody on Zoom? I got nobody on Zoom. I don't know if anybody else from the audience wants to speak. Did ESRD? Do you want me to speak? Do you want me to speak? Do you want me to speak? Do you want to say anything, Paul? Yeah.
Should we answer the question that had come from the homeowner? So we have retained ESRG for our emergency response plan that we submitted as part of the application. And ESRG also did HMA, the hazardous material assessment for the battery storage system that we're installing here as well. So we kind of covered both of it. I don't remember, Nunaro, you had a question about a fire that occurred in a facility in California. I relayed that to Maria and her team at Sprocket Power. I know that you said you were familiar with it, and it's sort of a different situation than what you guys are proposing at Hampton Jitney. Correct. Okay. Yeah, Paul knows a lot about that prejudice. Could you just state your name, please, Paul? Yeah. Paul Rogers, ESRG. You're on behalf of the applicant. Yeah, so I can take questions about the Morse Landing incident that took place in Monterey, California. It was a big incident that took place there, but I'd be more than happy to answer questions. That's publicly available out there. Is that related to what we have here today, or are they totally separate? Yeah, the Morse Landing incident was a dedicated-use building. We're looking at cabinet ties. We're looking at the departmentalization of the batteries themselves. So the Morse Landing was just an open floor plan where you had batteries from floor to ceiling, two tiers. There was a big fire that took place, and it lasted for some days. But there was a PowerPoint that was sent to us that was done by the EPA. That PowerPoint just went through a list of different things. But the EPA was leading the... The incident command. They were leading the incident command at that particular time. Ironically, the head of the EPA, Lee Zeldin, was here in Long Island and mentioned what he'd like to see. And everything that he mentioned, the state code had already covered as far as safety is concerned. So we were kind of always ahead of that, what the EPA actually recommended. So the state had already covered all of that already. But anybody that questions in regards to the... These are totally different. Number one, they're different chemistries for the battery that took place. The fire that took place in Morse Landing had a different chemistry. So lithium ion has numerous chemistries underneath it, subchemistries. That was what they call an NMC, nickel-manganese-cobalt chemistry, which has the more... It has a... The energy is... It is in a smaller spot. And you put a lot of energy into a smaller spot, it makes it more volatile. We're using lithium ion phosphate, which is a different chemistry. So the propensity is a little harder to go on fire than the NMC as a result of the energy not being impacted. It's tight. What are the lifespan of these batteries, the storage batteries? Depends on the cycle, on how often they cycle. I've heard, and I want to speak for this project, it could be anywhere from 15 to 20 years. That's accurate. Yeah. Yeah. Good. So with regard to the lifespan, the batteries have a warranted life of 10 years, and that is based upon the cycles. A cycle is a full charge and a full discharge. We've engineered the battery to support the load of the Hampton jitney and their electrification, which quite closely resembles one cycle a day. Okay. And that lines up. It's about 3,000 cycles is the lifespan typically of the battery. And then at the time of the end of that battery life, you can actually take the modules out. We would decommission that and replace the modules in the same cabinet at some point in the future. But that is, that's typically the life, and it comes with a warranty with a period of time that goes with it. And just say, before the 10 years or 15 years, if new technology comes out, can you replace them? Are they replaced? Replaceable. Replaceable. Replaceable. Replaceable. Replaceable. Replaceable. Replaceable. Replaceable. Replaceable. Replaceable. Replaceable.
And again, these units are five foot by five foot wide and about seven feet tall. And so even if you get a new technology in seven years, they're easy enough to just lift up and move out subject to the decommissioning steps that we've filed for. So if these batteries, just say one of them dies and you have a series of four and you have to replace the one, it has to be an identical battery to the other three that are in there. It can't be like a knock waffle one that you had, you took out of another unit and replaced it with. Good question. If the technology, lithium iron phosphate is a very common technology now out and it's a much more inert type of technology. But if, let's say, a specific battery unit fails, there are replacements that are the same size. It's important for us to make sure that electronically they tie into the same system. And these are very standard size units that they built. So if, let's say, for instance, this manufacturer in seven years was away, we could replace that with another one about the same size. As long as the electronics tie in together, then they'll function appropriately. And if your question is also, you know, just could it be a cell that isn't compliant with all of these safety, you know, that they are all UL approved. You know, that's part of what we're required to do is to choose among the. You know, the kind of the registered and qualified, you know, battery components. And the code actually allows a replacement as replacements as long as what they call a liking kind. In other words, it's got to be similar to what you took out. If you don't have the exact same one over time, you know, 10 years from now, maybe they won't have the exact same one. So they can do a liking kind. Well, these are going to have a very high cycle time. Right. Right. Of the nature of what these are being used for. Because I understand that we're using this to charge our own batteries on the buses. So these are going to be used every day. It's not like normal battery storage terminals that needed when the demand is high. This is going to be a demand that is self-fulfilling. So and I think maybe that might be the question. So the cycle you say. Is about how many thousand? There's 3,000 cycles. 3,000, yeah. And that's a cycle a day. In other words, they'll be able to all discharge when the buses get charged up on that time period. And then they can. Well, in this size storage unit, how long does it take to, since we don't know, but how long does it take to charge a bus? Is it an hour? Is it three hours? Is it 10 hours? Here's the owner of the facility. It's looking at the electrification. The buses. So it gives another source of. Please state your name. Identify yourself. Jeff Lynch, president of Hampton Jitney. How are you? Sorry I'm late. Regarding the actual time, we don't have an EV coach in our fleet at the moment. We have one that we are converting from diesel to EV right now, which part of the infrastructure that we're putting in right now. And including the. 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And frankly, this project that we are trying to get permission for right now, if we went to a fully 100% EV fleet, we would need far more charging capacity than what this is. This is really just for us to allow for this converted vehicle that we are putting in our fleet, as well as another coach that's coming in mid-2027. It's actually a demo. We're not purchasing it, but we're part of the research process to see how these over-the-road motor coaches will behave and how well this battery technology will work for these types of vehicles. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, we do, our coaches will do at least a round trip between the east end of Long Island and Manhattan. It's at least 250 miles. And right now, we're looking at ranges somewhere around 400 miles, but that depends upon temperature and utilization and what's going on inside the passenger compartment. So, right now, this specific project is really just a couple of vehicles. We're also looking at a lot of vehicles that are going to be charged overnight. We're also part of, you know, we did this solar roof on our facility, so we are looking to offset some of our own energy needs as well inside the building, just lights and general utilization. So, it's, yes, it's our first step to be sustainable, to allow us to use electricity. We'll see what's happening. fleet the PSE and G would say sorry you can't do that it's just no capacity for that so I'm assuming these are hybrid right no these are 100% Evie there's no no no hybrid I mean maybe in the future but right now there is no hybrid so it's it's how do you do the New York run at this point at this point the current vehicle does not have the range to do that it's simply going to stay on the east end of Long Island the one that we're getting in 2027 if that has the so-called 400 mile range we could do a round trip with that we'll see this is all this is all all new to us so we're just we're just starting out here I may be back in a couple years saying hey I need you know five megawatt battery system I don't know but right now this is just our attempt to number one help us with the with the initial EVs that we are experimenting with and then also offset some of our own energy costs that we're dealing with right now at our facility in Calverton and then we'll see what happens down the road but also just reinforce that this is still grid connected so in other words the battery has gone through its cycle there's still PSE G can support that this just takes that high cost period as much as it can so it relieves the cost of having to operate with these high cost vehicles and then we're going to have to do a little bit more of that with these high peaks it just helps cushion the pull that normally PSG would have by any electricity when it's cheap it's less expensive exactly and you're taking that bike spike off which is a demand charge which these chargers typically right and it's capturing solar energy and using it on-site so we think of it kind of an on-site energy system that has you know some ability to shield the customer a clean charge the yet the the other kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids kids There is the idea that we are trying to save some money with solar energy as well, and alternative energy in case of problems with the grid. As far as this correspondence from the person, is there anybody that can answer that as far as? Do you want me to address the letter? Sure. The letter about the contamination of LiDOS? I guess it was a comment that was a concern of somebody who lives locally. I won't talk about the fund, but I can talk about other incidents that are taking place in New York State. It's all documented through NYSERDA. There was an incident in Chemont. There was an incident in East Hampton. There was an incident in Warwick where they did samples. They did air, water, and soil samples for all three of those incidents. And there was no impact to the water. There was no impact to the soil. And the air had minimal impact outside the perimeter of the fence. That was done by the hazmat units that showed up to the incident while it was still burning.
You guys good with that? Yep. Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Good luck. Thank you. I appreciate it. Nobody got on Zoom in the meantime? No. Okay. Very good. I move we close the public hearing for Hampton-Chittany Best Site Plan. So moved. Second. We've been seconded. Mr. Zanicki? Yes. Mr. Bannon? Yes. Mr. Zanarro? Aye. Okay. Any vote aye? Close the discussion. Public hearing. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. Okay. Next up, no discussion items. Public comments on resolutions?
Okay. Might as well go right to the resolutions then. I'll move resolution 2026015 for Town Square Hotel Project, Town Square lot line modifications. So moved. Second. Second. We've been seconded. Mr. Zanicki? Yes. Mr. Bair? Yes. Mr. Zanarro? Aye. Aye. Yes. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Susan McCarthy's minor subdivision granting extension of the minor subdivision approval. Second. Move and second it. Mr. Zelnicki? Yes. Mr. Baird? Yes. Mr. Manero? Aye. Army, yes. Resolution adopted. Okay. Public comments on all matters?
Meeting minutes of the board from February 5th, 2026. So moved. Second. Move and second it. All those in favor? Aye. Seeker actions? Any other correspondence? Okay. Next meeting is Thursday, March 19th, 2026 at 3 p.m. Motion to close? Motion. Second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Okay.
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