August 20, 2026 — Planning Board

Planning Board Meeting

Summary AI

The Planning Board held its August 20 meeting with no public hearings, approving four resolutions covering two minor subdivisions, a site plan addition, and a fitness studio environmental classification, while also receiving an overview of proposed golf course zoning amendments being advanced by the Town Board.

Key actions

  • The board approved a resolution classifying the Squad Farm Realty LLC four-lot minor subdivision on Fresh Pond Road in Calverton as an unlisted action under environmental review, allowing the applicant to seek lot-width variance relief from the ZBA.
  • The board approved an extension of minor subdivision approval for the Susan McCarthy minor subdivision.
  • The board granted site plan approval for an approximately 6,000-square-foot addition at 840 Old Country Road.
  • The board classified the Innovative Fitness site plan application in Wading River as an unlisted action and issued a negative declaration; the project must obtain ZBA relief for setbacks, landscape buffers, and a second curb cut before a public hearing can be scheduled.

Discussed

  • The Innovative Fitness proposal involves a two-story gym and recovery studio on a 1.29-acre vacant parcel at the northeast corner of Debbie Lane and Route 25A in Wading River, with outstanding comments needed from DOT, the highway department, fire district, and fire marshal.
  • Board members raised safety concerns about a proposed curb cut on Debbie Lane approximately 75 feet from Route 25A due to limited sight lines, and staff said it would follow up with DOT and the highway department about the distance.
  • A town planner briefed the board on proposed golf course zoning amendments that would create a new Golf Course zoning use district for six existing courses, allowing up to 18 accessory golf cottages of no more than 600 square feet each per standard 18-hole course, requiring use of Transfer of Development Rights at one TDR per 1,200 square feet of cottage floor area; the Town Board has issued a positive declaration requiring a draft Generic Environmental Impact Statement, and the Planning Board is listed only as an interested agency with no approval authority over the rezoning.

Affects residents

  • Residents near the proposed Innovative Fitness site in Wading River should be aware a public hearing will be scheduled after ZBA approvals are obtained and outstanding agency comments are received.
  • If adopted by the Town Board, the golf course zoning amendments would allow small rental cottages at up to six golf courses in Riverhead, with development subject to environmental review.

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0:00Thank you.
1:00Good afternoon everybody. This is the advertised time and place for the Thursday, August 20th, 2026 Planning Board Meeting. Please join the board in standing for the Pledge of Allegiance.
1:16I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
1:30okay welcome everybody we do not have any public hearings tonight so we're
1:34going to go right into discussion items Matt can you come up and talk to us
1:38about squad farm Realty LLC please but mr. cutting to the table is the
1:44applicants representative very straightforward application we have here
1:48it's a four lot subdivision on fresh pond road in Calverton just a little bit
1:52south of South path everything pretty much conforms to zoning in terms of
1:59area and setbacks. The only thing that they'll need relief for is for lot with
2:04they're all about 118 120 minimum for the zone, which is B 40 is 150. So they
2:12the way they have it set out now that will be any side yard or rear front
2:16just the width is the issue. Um, in terms of secret, this is an unlisted
2:21action.
2:23Other than that, it's very straightforward. There's water in the
2:25road it's still waiting on comments from fire marshal fire district but you know
2:30it'll be just driveways on to fresh we'll get recreational fees for each lot
2:37there is an encroachment on proposed lot one if the board saw it looks like just
2:42some accessory structures and fence from the lot to the north which will need to
2:46be resolved prior to signature that's kind of really it they need Mike
2:52Seleski for four yeah they get road opening permits for cut for the curb cuts
2:56not a huge amount of traffic on the road so I'm not too worried about four
3:00driveways that's it so we have a resolution on today to classify as
3:05unlisted and adopted egg deck this way the applicant go to the CBA and get their
3:09required relief they served by the riverhead water district they are there's water in the
3:13In the past was this part of any other subdivision?
3:17It was not.
3:18All right.
3:21Anything else, gentlemen?
3:23No, I'm pretty straightforward.
3:25All right, let's move on to innovate fitness site plan with Marissa.
3:43Hi.
3:52All right.
3:55While I set everything up, if you guys just
3:58want to introduce yourself for the record for the board.
4:03So we need to know from Woodhull Expediting.
4:07Matthew Elbert with R&M Engineering, site civil.
4:13All right, and then for the record, Marissa Danowski, site plan reviewer.
4:29Today I have in front of the board a site plan application entitled Innovative Fitness.
4:36So it is a site plan that is, what they're looking to do is they're proposing a two-story building
4:46located in Wading River with exterior improvements.
4:51So parking and a turf area and a dumpster enclosure area.
4:59So with that little information, background information about the parcel.
5:04So it's a 1.29 acre parcel. It's currently vacant and wooded. It's on the northeast corner of Debbie Lane and Route 25A in Wading River.
5:16Some might know it as to the right to the east of it. There is a gas station and across the street from that gas station is the East Wind Shopping Center.
5:27Um, so, um, it's also known as Suffolk County tax map number 670, uh, dash 75 dash one dash 10. Um, and the zoning use district for this parcel is MRP, which is multifamily residential professional office use. Um, so there kind of allows a mixture of, uh, both residential and commercial within that use. Um, and that is what is mainly surrounding this property. It's a mixture of both. Um, there's commercial, uh, a couple of commercial buildings and then there's also
5:57also residential and condominium places as well.
6:03So going back to the proposed development,
6:06it's a two-story professional studio building.
6:09Their first story, the first floor is about 7,800 square feet.
6:17Most of that first floor is to be utilized as like a gym area.
6:22There is two separate little gym areas,
6:24but that's the majority of what that main level is going to be used for.
6:26There is a rollover door, like a garage door, and it brings you to that outside turf area that I was mentioning.
6:34The remaining pieces of, like, the first floor is a reception and juice bar area.
6:43There is seating there, and then there's also bathrooms and mechanicals and things of that nature.
6:50Then the second floor is a lot bit smaller.
6:55It's about 2,600 square feet.
7:00I labeled it as a recovery area.
7:04It has red light therapy up there, saunas.
7:09It also has a cold plunge tub.
7:13There's break rooms and there's offices.
7:16There's also a section that looks out open to below where the gym area is that has massage chairs and things of that nature.
7:25Getting to the exterior site improvements.
7:29So, like I said, the trained turf area, that's to be utilized when there's nice days.
7:34They can train outside in that back turf area.
7:37And then they are also looking to do the proposed dumpster enclosure, which is towards the east side of the property.
7:46I will make note when getting closer to discussing that.
7:51They will need ZBA relief for a front yard.
7:54So this whole project does have to go in front of ZBA.
8:00So there is mainly due to setbacks and buffers of the landscape buffers.
8:08They would have to go to ZBA prior to any type of.
8:11Have they been to the A or B yet?
8:13Not yet.
8:14So I wrote down that I was going to refer it to ARB this coming month for this meeting, which is the 26th.
8:21However, I would like ZBA to approve and do the determination first of what they are to approve.
8:30And just in case for any reason, if they make the building smaller or they rework the building,
8:35then it's going to have to go back to ARB anyway.
8:38So I would rather just get the ZBA approval first and then bring it in front of the Architectural Review Board.
8:47Melissa, the fitness centers are allowed in that zone?
8:50So it's under, yeah, so it's under, so in MRP, professional office buildings and professional studios are allowed.
9:02And that's what, this is the case with that.
9:07So with that also, just continuing on with my notes.
9:12So there is a proposed 40 parking spaces with two handicap proposed spaces as well.
9:22Let me think.
9:24Then, so with this, for a secret, it's an unlisted auction.
9:33The court of your review is optional, but it's not recommended per planning staff.
9:39with the parking area there is a calculation on here and it's saying that the required amount
9:46of parking per the calculation of the square footage of the building is 36 and there is
9:52a total of 40 spaces being provided so it's plenty of parking if not over parked
9:58and then in regards to the access points so they are proposing two curb cuts one on debbie lane
10:09and one on North Country Road.
10:13Staff has no problem with the two parking spots.
10:17Part of the code in MRP is only allowed one curb cut access.
10:23I think it's a great idea to have the two, personally.
10:26I think it would help a lot, especially because of how tight this parcel is.
10:33However, it does need to go to ZBA just because in the code it says one curb cut.
10:39So they are going to additionally go to ZBA for that reason to get two curb cuts.
10:43Has the DOT seen this yet?
10:46I did refer it out to DOT, and I have not heard back from them.
10:51So I have, from what I know, I referred it out.
10:54I just didn't get any information back.
10:57Because the driveway that's exiting and entering off of Debbie Lane,
11:02it's estimated at about 75 feet off the corner of 25A.
11:06and the problem I have with that is, as I went out there and I sat there the other day,
11:13and you've got cars that are westbound on 25A making the turn onto Debbie Lane,
11:17and they're accelerating coming out of that turn.
11:20So the cars exiting the shopping center here,
11:25I don't know if they'll be able to react fast enough if somebody comes around the corner.
11:29There's really not a lot of space.
11:30Seventy-five feet isn't a lot of room when somebody's accelerating out of a turn,
11:35and then somebody's trying to cross in front of them.
11:38Do you see what I'm saying?
11:39Yeah, so when I personally did, like, so when I did my staff report,
11:43I made a recommendation of making that maybe an ingress only, that W lane at least.
11:50So it would only be into the property instead of both in and out.
11:57However, for code purposes, the 75 feet is what the minimum is, I believe, per our code.
12:05There's no visibility is what I'm saying when you stand on that there is no visibility
12:09Yeah, what's coming westbound eastbound you can if the people going eastbound on 25 April going westbound, okay?
12:16Yeah
12:18What about just having an exit right on to 25 a in and out like all the other shopping centers and
12:26businesses along there I mean I so
12:30So our whole thing that, so this was, we talked about, I think prior, I don't know if it was in regards to making the entrance on Route 25A or not.
12:42Our main concern with that was, I mean, there are other properties that as well have the access from Route 25A.
12:52We were concerned also about keeping that, there's a lot of landscaping and native trees up in the front that kind of incorporate that road of the Pine Barrens region of keeping it very like a natural type landscape.
13:11That was one of our recommendations is to keep that landscape buffer.
13:15But however, that doesn't necessarily mean that they can't put that entrance on Route 25A.
13:21Marissa, could they, for John's point, could they move that entrance and exit, say, 25 feet more to the north just to get that, you know, like 100 feet or 90 feet or 100 feet, you know, on Debbie's lane?
13:36I mean, I could definitely, but I can definitely, we can definitely work on it to see if there's any wiggle room in regards to trying to push that curb cut a little bit further if it does have to go to Route 25A.
13:53Again, I have no comments from DOT yet, so I can reach back out to them to see if they have any comments regarding it.
13:59I like the second entrance and exit, which is not a well-traveled road, so in other words, they can use it that way also.
14:09Yeah, absolutely.
14:11So I will make note to talk to DOT in regards to the curb cut.
14:18And then also I will refer this.
14:20I did refer it over to the highway department, so I do not have comments from them yet.
14:25they would be the ones to ultimately talk about that 75 foot distance on Debbie Lane because it's
14:30a town road. So I will mention it to them as well and see if they have any other additional comments.
14:38Let's see. So dumpster location, like I said before, it requires ZBA relief from the front yard.
14:48so they are looking to go to ZBA for that. I just made a note to make sure
14:55that it is screened per code that it's the proper screening and I have that
15:02written here that talks about
15:10Town Code 245-8 which states all dumpsters shall be fully enclosed with
15:15appropriate screening enclosures no less than five feet and no more than six feet
15:19in height and then it talks about shall be equipped with a lid and for durable
15:26construction things of that nature I also made note that when I was looking
15:33at this plan there I did not see anything in regards to lighting so I
15:38just asked that we get a revised site plan for the exterior lighting of what's
15:44being proposed and the photometric information in regards to the
15:51landscaping so going back over to the landscaping when we were talking about
15:55the entrance the curb cut entrance so I do need a landscape a landscape plan
16:03prior to the public hearing with that there are buffers in this zoning in
16:11regards to the proposed front yard landscape so it's a minimum of 35 feet
16:18so they are trying they're maintaining that 35 foot buffer on New York State
16:23Route 25a also technically the Debbie Lane side is considered a front yard
16:29they are requesting relief from there in regards to a front yard setback but also
16:36in regards to a landscape buffer it slightly encroaches with the turf area
16:40and the building.
16:43And then as well, the North Country Road side,
16:47which is another front yard,
16:50so they are also going to ZBA for that relief as well for the setbacks.
16:55So they have three front yards, North Country Road,
16:57Debbie Lane, and New York State Route 25A.
17:00Justin, can you bring up A2 on the screen or no?
17:05I can't do it.
17:06Oh, you can't?
17:07Okay.
17:07I'm having technical difficulties.
17:10Just to point out, when you go to ARB, I mean that side paneling, I don't know if we can break it up with some windows or something.
17:20It's got three front yards and if you look there's an awful lot of siding with nothing breaking it up.
17:29Just bring that point up to the ARB.
17:31Okay.
17:32Not a big deal.
17:33What about signage advertising?
17:38Is it going to be on the building?
17:39Is it going to be at the drive?
17:40Where is it?
17:42So I have nothing on here that states about the signage,
17:45so I don't know the answer to that.
17:48I can get information in regards to that.
17:53But I know that was also in talks of the pre-submission meeting as well,
17:59but I just don't know what the determination was out of it.
18:03So I will ask and get you more information on that.
18:08So back with the landscape plan, just for reference, I'll need it before the public hearing.
18:16On the landscape plan, there's usually a planting schedule included that has the species, sizes, and locations.
18:27Plants are usually being native to what's around.
18:30I also will make note that as part of MRP in the code it talks about existing vegetation so what
18:38is there and try to retain as much as possible so it has to indicate existing mature trees that
18:45are on the property and other significant vegetation so across the street from here
18:51just south, it is all Pine Barrens across the street and down.
18:59So south of New York State 25A and west, a lot of that is in the Pine Barrens area.
19:06So we're trying to keep that whole, because it's a very hard transition between like a
19:15natural Pine Barrens area that's really not developed.
19:19And then it goes directly.
19:21we try to make the transition as smooth as possible between residential and the
19:25Pine Barrens area so with that we're just asking to keep that 35 foot buffer
19:31and also Suffolk County Planning Commission made comments for the buffer
19:38as well it is on in my staff report page 5 the the second note from the Planning
19:50Commission in the letter dated August 10th. It says, pursuant to Town Code, establish
19:55existing vegetation should be preserved rather than removed and replaced. The applicant should
20:00be encouraged the only clear areas as needed and allowed wooded areas are to remain undisturbed
20:06and as long as possible. So even Planning Commission is stating that they kind of want
20:11to keep it in that rural look as well as that's what Wading River Route 25A is mainly right
20:19now. There is also properties to the west that do have that buffer as well that keeps it that
20:26rural character of the there's a condominium right down the road that has that landscape
20:32buffer as well keeping their vegetation as much as they can. So other than that I referred it to
20:40DOT didn't hear any comments yet I'll reach out to them same with Department of Health.
20:45I referred it to the fire district and I'm waiting for comments from them.
20:51Fire marshal, I did reach out to the fire marshal.
20:54He said he was going to get me some comments pretty soon.
20:59The Riverhead Highway, I didn't hear any comments back from him,
21:03but I could definitely reach out in regards to that curb cut on Debbie Lane.
21:09The town engineer, I actually did get comments back from him yesterday
21:13and he was just asking that a SWPPP would probably the SWPPP will be required as
21:19it's disturbing at least an acre of land
21:24and he's also asking for a photometric lighting plan is required which I stated
21:29in the exterior lighting plan. ARB I'm gonna my only suggestion in regards to
21:41Sending it to ARB is just to wait until we get the zoning board of appeals approval,
21:46just for any case they need to move that building around and redo it.
21:50But I will definitely give him that information when it comes time regarding windows to break up.
21:57So recommendations is that to go to the ARB, get the denial letter to get the necessary approvals that are needed.
22:07In the meantime, I do have a resolution on to at least classify it as a listed action and a negative declaration.
22:17Sorry, I can't speak today.
22:19And then once they obtain the relief that's needed, then we'll schedule a public hearing and go from there.
22:30Sorry, a lot of information and my mouth wasn't working.
22:34That's good.
22:34Yep.
22:35Okay, thank you Marissa.
22:36Thank you very much.
22:37Good luck.
22:38We'll see you soon, I'm sure.
22:39Okay, Greg.
22:40Golf course zoning use.
22:41The town board has listed us as an interested party.
22:42All right.
22:43We're going to go ahead and get started.
22:44Okay.
22:45board has listed us as an interested party.
23:04All right. Good afternoon everybody. So here to give the planning board a high level overview of the proposed golf course zoning use district amendments.
23:15that are being considered by the town board.
23:18The town board issued a positive declaration earlier in the month
23:22requiring the preparation of a draft generic environmental impact statement.
23:26What we're looking at is a, what I'll call a suite of code amendments related
23:31to creating a framework in order to create accessory golf cottages
23:36at six existing golf courses within the town.
23:40If you go to the last page of the packet that I provided,
23:44It shows you, it identifies the six golf courses that we would target for the proposed rezoning.
23:52They consist of the Great Rock Golf Course, Bainting Hollow Club, Friars Head, Cherry
23:58Creek, the woods at Cherry Creek, Long Island National Golf Course.
24:02So those would be the six courses that would be rezoned.
24:06We would be creating a new golf course zoning use district.
24:11main reason this is being done is because pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comp plan
24:19the plan recommended golf cottages with the use of transfer of development rights pursuant to
24:25new york town law anytime you're creating a new receiving district or sending district you need
24:32a draft generic environmental impact statement when you create that geis you're going to be
24:37looking at things such as water supply emergency service transportation
24:42capacity sanitary wastewater management etc so there's a suite of code
24:50amendments and I'll just go briefly through the different components of it
24:54one like I said is the creation of the new zoning use district entitled golf
24:59course zoning use district what I did is we had gone to the town board a couple
25:04of times to come up with a way to get this change in effect. One of my initial iterations was to
25:12rezone the golf courses to residence A80, which is already a receiving district. The problem with
25:19that was these receiving districts have to be mapped with specificity, so we would still need
25:24a GEIS in order to do that. And then if we were to rezone them to RA80, there would have been a
25:32possibility for if those golf courses closed they could avail themselves of essentially allowing the
25:38double density to be used with the existing transfer of development rights so thought was
25:44scrap that rather than have to justify the potential doubling of potential residential
25:49density we would just create the golf course zoning use district the new golf course zoning
25:55use district essentially mirrors almost word for word the existing two acre residential zoning
26:01districts meaning APZ, RA80, RB80 in terms of the you know two acre residential density,
26:08minimum lot size, all the dimensional requirements, the permitted uses with the
26:13exception of golf course zoning use district has golf course as a permitted
26:19use which they're already golf courses rather than require a special permit for
26:24an expansion of a pre-existing non-conforming use we'd eliminate that
26:28sort of extra step so the golf course zoning use district again at its base is
26:34a two acre residential zoning use district so there is no increase in the
26:39underlying residential density if we were to apply the golf course zoning use
26:42district of the golf course parcels we are amending the official zoning map of
26:48the town of Riverhead to rezone those six existing golf courses to the GC
26:53zoning use district we're amending the definitions in Town Code 301 dash 3 to
27:00include a definition of golf cottage which I will go through the packet to
27:06get you the definition so the definition of a golf cottage is a permitted
27:12accessory use to a standard golf course subject to the use of preservation
27:16credits as noted in section 301 dash 208 intended to provide convenient lodging
27:21options for golfers or visitors wishing to stay on a golf course. Golf cottages are not to exceed
27:27600 square feet of gross floor area per unit and shall be limited to one golf cottage per hole
27:33for a maximum of 18 cottages per standard golf course. Golf cottages can be freestanding
27:38structures or attached units with no more than two attached cottages with common walls separating
27:43units. Nothing contained within this definition shall be construed to permit the construction of
27:48restaurants, spas, or other type of amenities related to golf courses.
27:53Golf cottages shall remain under the ownership and operation of the golf course upon which they are located
27:59and shall not be subdivided or placed into condominium ownership for the purposes of transfer.
28:04Golf cottages shall not be used for the purposes of establishing residency within the town of Riverhead.
28:09So essentially, if a golf course wished to avail themselves and create golf cottages for a standard golf course,
28:17which, again, we're amending the definition slightly to say a standard golf course has 18 holes
28:23and may include a clubhouse and golf cottage as accessory uses.
28:27Standard golf courses have a minimum size of no less than 125 acres.
28:33We're going to strike language in that right now that talks about a minimum par of 70
28:38and a minimum of 6,000 yards as measured from the middle Ts.
28:42At its base, if a golf course has a minimum size of 125 acres,
28:4718 holes it's considered a standard golf course so if a golf course wanted to
28:52build 18 cottages what they could construct would be 18 freestanding 600
28:58square foot units or they could construct I'll call it a duplex just
29:04because I don't know how else to describe it but two attached golf
29:07cottage units each unit being 600 square feet the total of that structure would
29:12be 1200 square feet and they could build a nine of those what I'll call duplex
29:17units in no way could they exceed 18 cottages on a standard golf course
29:23suppose they already have not to interrupt you but suppose they already
29:27have 27 holes out of the golf courses that we are seeing of the golf courses
29:33that we're proposing the rezoning on none of them have more than 18 holes so
29:38They're only, I mean.
29:43But Bading and Hull had more than 18, and I'm not singling them out.
29:47Believe me.
29:48It's an interesting, I mean, I will look into that.
29:51To my knowledge, I didn't think they had more than 18, but.
29:54Just 18.
29:56Bading and Hull was just 18.
29:58Just to clear it up before it comes on.
30:01I want to see three miniature golf courses there in billions of homes.
30:10I mean, again, a golf course still has to have 125 acres.
30:14So in the event a course right now that exceeds 125 acres,
30:19if they wanted to try to subdivide off some property,
30:22if they go below 125 acres,
30:25they no longer meet the definition of the minimum size for a standard golf course.
30:30They have to still have it.
30:31any subdivision after they're built, correct?
30:37As long as a golf course were to retain 125 acres,
30:42I mean, again, the way most of these golf courses are constructed,
30:45there's not a tremendous amount of excess land on what I'll call the periphery of the course
30:50that would really allow a subdivision to take place.
30:53You know, most of these courses are sort of designed where they encompass the entire property.
30:58I've got one more question while it's on my mind.
31:02What about cluster zoning?
31:04Can they cluster zone them?
31:06So, yeah.
31:06So, the Gulf Course Zoning Use District, again, does really very closely mirror the existing two-acre residential zoning districts.
31:14It does require clustering.
31:16So in the event that a golf course, if one of these courses were to, if we change them to the golf course zoning use district, if they were to close that day, they could be redeveloped with a two-acre clustered residential subdivision.
31:30So, I mean, let's say a 150-acre course closed, they could develop maybe a 75-lot residential subdivision that would require clustering and preservation of open space and agricultural soils.
31:43I mean, the reality of it is most of these courses have already been, you know, the prime agricultural soils are probably not there.
31:51They've been completely redeveloped.
31:53So they may just be open space and allow it to be, you know.
31:57I don't know if it still exists, but Great Rock had a lot of open space.
32:01They were trying to develop that into more, you know, to include houses years back, not too many years back, because they had a lot of extra space now.
32:11I don't know if they…
32:12Great Rock or maybe…
32:13hollow club no i'm talking about great rock there was a lot because they were they were trying to
32:18to redevelop that hole i know the great rock course and i'm not super super familiar with
32:25it but i do recall seeing a lot of natural open space buffer areas so i don't know how much excess
32:31land they would have for redevelopment i'm only asking the questions now so that when they come
32:37up and they'll come up.
32:38Okay.
32:41All right.
32:42So 301, amending the definition, you know, creating a definition of a golf cottage, amending
32:48the definition of a standard golf course.
32:50We would amend Town Code Section 301-208, the redemption of preservation credits to
32:57include the new golf course zoning use district as a receiving area.
33:01Identify the redemption formula for the redemption of TDRs as it relates to the size of golf
33:05cottages.
33:06Right now, the proposed amendments, as desired by the town board, require one TDR for, I believe it's 1,200 square feet of development.
33:22Yes, 1,200 square feet of floor area for golf cottages.
33:26So essentially, if a course wanted to build the full 18 cottages that they're entitled to, it would require nine TDRs.
33:32This is a departure from the recommendations of the comprehensive plan which recommended one TDR per cottage.
33:39When this was initially discussed with a couple of work sessions with the town board, several of the board members said they didn't feel that that was a viable number for one TDR for 600 square feet.
33:52So they made the recommendation to do 1,200 square feet of floor area per TDR.
33:57Have you gotten to the point where who can rent these places?
34:05Do they have to be members or they can be from the general public?
34:09So we haven't discussed that.
34:11That is something that I probably would anticipate to come in, come into discussion.
34:18How that would affect environmental impacts, I'm not really sure.
34:22that you know I'm not really sure the you know the sanitary wastewater whether
34:27it's a member of the golf course or a you know someone who's just renting it
34:32as a you know a transient rent I want to say transient rental but functioning
34:36similar to a hotel you know the impacts of the development and the structure and
34:42any type of improvements I don't know that they necessarily would vary whether
34:46or not the tenant or the healthy whoever's gonna rent that structure for
34:51period whether it matters if they're a member or not I just received this
34:56lengthy document so I'm just I'm just giving you the kind of again the
35:02Planning Board is an interested agency the Planning Board doesn't have approval
35:06authority for these zoning changes I'm just giving you the action does the
35:10Planning Board have to take right now the planning board doesn't have to take
35:13any action you're you're an interested agency you know essentially the same
35:18ability to comment on the scope and the GEIS as a member of the public the
35:24Planning Board obviously if a course wants to come in and develop these golf
35:28cottages the Planning Board would be the agency reviewing the site plan which I
35:33mean we're very familiar with reviewing site plans but for in terms of the
35:38action right now of the rezoning the code amendments you know the GEIS the
35:43Planning Board is not an involved agency because you don't have direct permitting
35:47or approval authority over these series of actions.
35:51Greg, these cottages would only be used for golfers,
35:56or can they be used if there are weddings or special events,
36:02can they be rented out at that time?
36:04So that was basically Mr. Nero's question.
36:08I'm not sure that that's really relevant to the environmental review,
36:14but that's something that the town board could consider.
36:16I mean again really in terms of the functionality of a golf cottage if
36:22someone's staying in it someone's staying in it whether or not they're a
36:24member of the course again I'm not really sure if that's any sort of
36:28bearing on environmental impacts but they are called golf cottages golf
36:33cottages correct and then last action would be including we're amending the
36:43residents district schedule of dimensional regulations to include
36:46dimensional regulations for the new golf course zoning use district which again
36:50exactly mirror what the two acre residential zoning use districts
36:54currently currently require so minimum lot size of 80,000 square feet lot width
37:00of 175 feet 15% impervious surface 35 foot maximum height of buildings 60 foot
37:08front yard depth 30 foot 65 foot side yard combined uh 60 foot side yard about inside
37:15street and a 75 rear yard depth which again exactly mirrors the two acre residential zoning
37:20use districts so there would be no increase in potential density you know if a course were to
37:26close and then redevelop to a residential subdivision um you're allowed to be 35 feet high
37:33life right now the existing right now the existing maximum height of a structure in APZ RA 80 and RB
37:4380 is 35 feet um I don't see a golf cottage at 600 square feet I don't see someone building a
37:5135 foot tall 600 square foot structure I would see this more of a single store you know single
37:58story maybe 18 feet with a peaked roof you know like keeping in character with
38:03a Norfolk development I mean I don't see I don't see why you'd build a I
38:08agree with you on that do you think you're just set a height this way
38:12somewhere down the road if somebody decides that they want to build a
38:16two-story or so the maximum height is for the dimensional regulation so I mean
38:22think of that that also applies to a single-family residence so I mean right
38:26now in every residential zoning use district the maximum height is 35 feet so i mean you get a two
38:31story with a peaked roof you approach that so that's not there's nothing changing from the
38:36existing zoning in terms of maximum permitted height we're defining the square footage that
38:41they could be yeah could they be why not right why not just define the height that they can be too
38:48i mean so if a cottage one cottage is a maximum of 600 square feet if you build a two-story
38:55cottage and we can maybe through the maybe through the review of this we amend and tweak those
39:01definitions but i mean you're going to build a two-story structure with each floor having 300
39:06square feet i mean it just it seems it seems really you said you can put two together at 1200
39:11square feet so why wouldn't you take 600 on the bottom floor 600 on the second floor and there's
39:17your 1200 square feet are you allowed are you considering that or just two separate 600s
39:23it's just a question Greg that's all John brought up a good point so many and that could be something
39:36I think maybe we could refine the definition of the golf cottage to be one story that way
39:41you know a 1200 square foot footprint for one you know a duplex if they wanted to build the
39:46two attached cottages but practically I wouldn't see someone building a 35 foot
39:52tall 600 square foot cottage you know it's like you know you're gonna walk in
39:56you're gonna have the tallest Cathedral ceiling I've ever seen in my life and a
40:00600 square foot structure so again the things that we will look at through the
40:07draft scope will be you know the introduction of proposed action needs
40:12environmental resources will go through water resources will discuss their
40:17locations within existing red water district extensions will discuss their
40:24location within Suffolk County groundwater management zones will
40:27discuss allowable sanitary densities potential impacts from the construction
40:32of these consider a maximum theoretical build out if every course were to avail
40:38themselves of this new zoning and every course wanted to build 18 cottages we
40:43would look at that also in terms of transportation and then there's some you
40:48know we're required to look at alternatives one would be the no action
40:51alternative the other alternative like I discussed briefly would be rezoning to
40:56RA 80 but again that in that action would have you know some unintended
41:00increased density consequences so that is the sort of golf cottage series of
41:10code amendments and the purpose and intent again planning boards under no
41:13obligation to comment you're not an approval agency at this point I'm just
41:18bringing it to the board for you know its knowledge and purpose I will you
41:24know relay some of the comments and I will keep them in mind as we go forward
41:27with the GIs just in terms of the two stories I know it's built with mr. Hogan
41:33just about you know building construction and what they'll be
41:35considered if they'll need to meet certain commercial standards or
41:38residential standards so we'll take that all into consideration as we move
41:42forward okay good job okay at this time we're gonna have public comments on
41:51resolutions. Any takers? Mr. Supervisor? No, sir. Okay. Barbara? All right. Gentlemen, let's run the resolutions. I'll move resolution 202653, squared form realty LLC for the minor subdivision resolution classifying an action as an unlisted pursuant to secret for the minor subdivision. So moved. Second. Moved and second. Mr. Zernick? Yes. Mr.
42:21Mr. Hogan, Mr. DeNero, and I vote aye, the motion carries.
42:26Our move is resolution 2026-054, Susan McCarthy, minor subdivision,
42:31resolution granting extensions of minor subdivision approval for the subdivision application entitled,
42:37Susan McCarthy, minor subdivision, so moved.
42:40Second.
42:41Moved and second, Mr. Zernicki, Mr. Hogan, Mr. DeNero, and I vote aye, the motion carries.
42:46Resolution 2025-055, 840 Old Country Road.
42:53Resolution granting site plan approval for the site plan application entitled 840 Old Country Road,
42:59which seeks approval to construct an approximately 6,000 square feet addition.
43:04Second.
43:05Moving to second.
43:06Do you guys want to vote on this today?
43:10Moving to second.
43:11Mr. Zernicki.
43:11Yes.
43:12Mr. Hogan.
43:12Yes.
43:13Mr. DeNarro.
43:15Aye.
43:15And I vote aye to motion carries.
43:19Resolution 2025-56.
43:22Innovate fitness to classify an action as an unlisted action issue, a negative deck pursuant to secrecy.
43:30So moved.
43:31Second.
43:32Moved and second.
43:32Mr. Zernicki?
43:33Yes.
43:33Mr. Hogan?
43:34Yes.
43:34Mr. De Niro?
43:35Aye.
43:35And I vote aye to motion carries.
43:39Okay, at this time, public comments on any matter.
43:45Not seeing any hands, can we move the minutes?
43:48I'll move the minutes of July 16th.
43:50So moved.
43:51Second.
43:52Moved and second.
43:53Mr. Zernicki?
43:54Yes.
43:54Mr. Hogan?
43:55Yes.
43:55Mr. De Niro?
43:56Aye.
43:56And I vote aye.
43:57The motion carries.
43:59Greg, any secret actions?
44:00Nope.
44:01Oh, there you are.
44:03Any other business staff?
44:06All right.
44:07Good job.
44:08No correspondence?
44:09Wow, it was a light week.
44:11We did get one yesterday morning,
44:13but that'll be included on the next agenda.
44:16Our next meeting date is Thursday, September 3rd, at 6 p.m. right here.
44:22Motion to close?
44:24Second.
44:26All in favor?
44:27Aye.
44:27All opposed?
44:29Thank you, and everybody have a great weekend.
44:43Thank you.

Full Transcript

Thank you.

Good afternoon everybody. This is the advertised time and place for the Thursday, August 20th, 2026 Planning Board Meeting. Please join the board in standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. okay welcome everybody we do not have any public hearings tonight so we're going to go right into discussion items Matt can you come up and talk to us about squad farm Realty LLC please but mr. cutting to the table is the applicants representative very straightforward application we have here it's a four lot subdivision on fresh pond road in Calverton just a little bit south of South path everything pretty much conforms to zoning in terms of area and setbacks. The only thing that they'll need relief for is for lot with they're all about 118 120 minimum for the zone, which is B 40 is 150. So they the way they have it set out now that will be any side yard or rear front just the width is the issue. Um, in terms of secret, this is an unlisted action. Other than that, it's very straightforward. There's water in the road it's still waiting on comments from fire marshal fire district but you know it'll be just driveways on to fresh we'll get recreational fees for each lot there is an encroachment on proposed lot one if the board saw it looks like just some accessory structures and fence from the lot to the north which will need to be resolved prior to signature that's kind of really it they need Mike Seleski for four yeah they get road opening permits for cut for the curb cuts not a huge amount of traffic on the road so I'm not too worried about four driveways that's it so we have a resolution on today to classify as unlisted and adopted egg deck this way the applicant go to the CBA and get their required relief they served by the riverhead water district they are there's water in the In the past was this part of any other subdivision? It was not. All right.

Anything else, gentlemen? No, I'm pretty straightforward. All right, let's move on to innovate fitness site plan with Marissa.

Hi.

All right. While I set everything up, if you guys just want to introduce yourself for the record for the board. So we need to know from Woodhull Expediting. Matthew Elbert with R&M Engineering, site civil.

All right, and then for the record, Marissa Danowski, site plan reviewer. Today I have in front of the board a site plan application entitled Innovative Fitness. So it is a site plan that is, what they're looking to do is they're proposing a two-story building located in Wading River with exterior improvements. So parking and a turf area and a dumpster enclosure area. So with that little information, background information about the parcel. So it's a 1.29 acre parcel. It's currently vacant and wooded. It's on the northeast corner of Debbie Lane and Route 25A in Wading River. Some might know it as to the right to the east of it. There is a gas station and across the street from that gas station is the East Wind Shopping Center. Um, so, um, it's also known as Suffolk County tax map number 670, uh, dash 75 dash one dash 10. Um, and the zoning use district for this parcel is MRP, which is multifamily residential professional office use. Um, so there kind of allows a mixture of, uh, both residential and commercial within that use. Um, and that is what is mainly surrounding this property. It's a mixture of both. Um, there's commercial, uh, a couple of commercial buildings and then there's also also residential and condominium places as well. So going back to the proposed development, it's a two-story professional studio building. Their first story, the first floor is about 7,800 square feet. Most of that first floor is to be utilized as like a gym area. There is two separate little gym areas, but that's the majority of what that main level is going to be used for. There is a rollover door, like a garage door, and it brings you to that outside turf area that I was mentioning. The remaining pieces of, like, the first floor is a reception and juice bar area. There is seating there, and then there's also bathrooms and mechanicals and things of that nature. Then the second floor is a lot bit smaller. It's about 2,600 square feet. I labeled it as a recovery area. It has red light therapy up there, saunas. It also has a cold plunge tub. There's break rooms and there's offices. There's also a section that looks out open to below where the gym area is that has massage chairs and things of that nature. Getting to the exterior site improvements. So, like I said, the trained turf area, that's to be utilized when there's nice days. They can train outside in that back turf area. And then they are also looking to do the proposed dumpster enclosure, which is towards the east side of the property. I will make note when getting closer to discussing that. They will need ZBA relief for a front yard. So this whole project does have to go in front of ZBA. So there is mainly due to setbacks and buffers of the landscape buffers. They would have to go to ZBA prior to any type of. Have they been to the A or B yet? Not yet. So I wrote down that I was going to refer it to ARB this coming month for this meeting, which is the 26th. However, I would like ZBA to approve and do the determination first of what they are to approve. And just in case for any reason, if they make the building smaller or they rework the building, then it's going to have to go back to ARB anyway. So I would rather just get the ZBA approval first and then bring it in front of the Architectural Review Board. Melissa, the fitness centers are allowed in that zone? So it's under, yeah, so it's under, so in MRP, professional office buildings and professional studios are allowed. And that's what, this is the case with that. So with that also, just continuing on with my notes. So there is a proposed 40 parking spaces with two handicap proposed spaces as well. Let me think. Then, so with this, for a secret, it's an unlisted auction. The court of your review is optional, but it's not recommended per planning staff. with the parking area there is a calculation on here and it's saying that the required amount of parking per the calculation of the square footage of the building is 36 and there is a total of 40 spaces being provided so it's plenty of parking if not over parked and then in regards to the access points so they are proposing two curb cuts one on debbie lane and one on North Country Road. Staff has no problem with the two parking spots. Part of the code in MRP is only allowed one curb cut access. I think it's a great idea to have the two, personally. I think it would help a lot, especially because of how tight this parcel is. However, it does need to go to ZBA just because in the code it says one curb cut. So they are going to additionally go to ZBA for that reason to get two curb cuts. Has the DOT seen this yet? I did refer it out to DOT, and I have not heard back from them. So I have, from what I know, I referred it out. I just didn't get any information back. Because the driveway that's exiting and entering off of Debbie Lane, it's estimated at about 75 feet off the corner of 25A. and the problem I have with that is, as I went out there and I sat there the other day, and you've got cars that are westbound on 25A making the turn onto Debbie Lane, and they're accelerating coming out of that turn. So the cars exiting the shopping center here, I don't know if they'll be able to react fast enough if somebody comes around the corner. There's really not a lot of space. Seventy-five feet isn't a lot of room when somebody's accelerating out of a turn, and then somebody's trying to cross in front of them. Do you see what I'm saying? Yeah, so when I personally did, like, so when I did my staff report, I made a recommendation of making that maybe an ingress only, that W lane at least. So it would only be into the property instead of both in and out. However, for code purposes, the 75 feet is what the minimum is, I believe, per our code. There's no visibility is what I'm saying when you stand on that there is no visibility Yeah, what's coming westbound eastbound you can if the people going eastbound on 25 April going westbound, okay? Yeah What about just having an exit right on to 25 a in and out like all the other shopping centers and businesses along there I mean I so So our whole thing that, so this was, we talked about, I think prior, I don't know if it was in regards to making the entrance on Route 25A or not. Our main concern with that was, I mean, there are other properties that as well have the access from Route 25A. We were concerned also about keeping that, there's a lot of landscaping and native trees up in the front that kind of incorporate that road of the Pine Barrens region of keeping it very like a natural type landscape. That was one of our recommendations is to keep that landscape buffer. But however, that doesn't necessarily mean that they can't put that entrance on Route 25A. Marissa, could they, for John's point, could they move that entrance and exit, say, 25 feet more to the north just to get that, you know, like 100 feet or 90 feet or 100 feet, you know, on Debbie's lane? I mean, I could definitely, but I can definitely, we can definitely work on it to see if there's any wiggle room in regards to trying to push that curb cut a little bit further if it does have to go to Route 25A. Again, I have no comments from DOT yet, so I can reach back out to them to see if they have any comments regarding it. I like the second entrance and exit, which is not a well-traveled road, so in other words, they can use it that way also. Yeah, absolutely. So I will make note to talk to DOT in regards to the curb cut. And then also I will refer this. I did refer it over to the highway department, so I do not have comments from them yet. they would be the ones to ultimately talk about that 75 foot distance on Debbie Lane because it's a town road. So I will mention it to them as well and see if they have any other additional comments.

Let's see. So dumpster location, like I said before, it requires ZBA relief from the front yard. so they are looking to go to ZBA for that. I just made a note to make sure that it is screened per code that it's the proper screening and I have that written here that talks about Town Code 245-8 which states all dumpsters shall be fully enclosed with appropriate screening enclosures no less than five feet and no more than six feet in height and then it talks about shall be equipped with a lid and for durable construction things of that nature I also made note that when I was looking at this plan there I did not see anything in regards to lighting so I just asked that we get a revised site plan for the exterior lighting of what's being proposed and the photometric information in regards to the landscaping so going back over to the landscaping when we were talking about the entrance the curb cut entrance so I do need a landscape a landscape plan prior to the public hearing with that there are buffers in this zoning in regards to the proposed front yard landscape so it's a minimum of 35 feet so they are trying they're maintaining that 35 foot buffer on New York State Route 25a also technically the Debbie Lane side is considered a front yard they are requesting relief from there in regards to a front yard setback but also in regards to a landscape buffer it slightly encroaches with the turf area and the building. And then as well, the North Country Road side, which is another front yard, so they are also going to ZBA for that relief as well for the setbacks. So they have three front yards, North Country Road, Debbie Lane, and New York State Route 25A. Justin, can you bring up A2 on the screen or no? I can't do it. Oh, you can't? Okay. I'm having technical difficulties. Oh. Just to point out, when you go to ARB, I mean that side paneling, I don't know if we can break it up with some windows or something. It's got three front yards and if you look there's an awful lot of siding with nothing breaking it up. Just bring that point up to the ARB. Okay. Not a big deal. What about signage advertising? Is it going to be on the building? Is it going to be at the drive? Where is it? So I have nothing on here that states about the signage, so I don't know the answer to that. I can get information in regards to that. But I know that was also in talks of the pre-submission meeting as well, but I just don't know what the determination was out of it. So I will ask and get you more information on that. So back with the landscape plan, just for reference, I'll need it before the public hearing. On the landscape plan, there's usually a planting schedule included that has the species, sizes, and locations. Plants are usually being native to what's around. I also will make note that as part of MRP in the code it talks about existing vegetation so what is there and try to retain as much as possible so it has to indicate existing mature trees that are on the property and other significant vegetation so across the street from here just south, it is all Pine Barrens across the street and down. So south of New York State 25A and west, a lot of that is in the Pine Barrens area. So we're trying to keep that whole, because it's a very hard transition between like a natural Pine Barrens area that's really not developed. And then it goes directly. we try to make the transition as smooth as possible between residential and the Pine Barrens area so with that we're just asking to keep that 35 foot buffer and also Suffolk County Planning Commission made comments for the buffer as well it is on in my staff report page 5 the the second note from the Planning Commission in the letter dated August 10th. It says, pursuant to Town Code, establish existing vegetation should be preserved rather than removed and replaced. The applicant should be encouraged the only clear areas as needed and allowed wooded areas are to remain undisturbed and as long as possible. So even Planning Commission is stating that they kind of want to keep it in that rural look as well as that's what Wading River Route 25A is mainly right now. There is also properties to the west that do have that buffer as well that keeps it that rural character of the there's a condominium right down the road that has that landscape buffer as well keeping their vegetation as much as they can. So other than that I referred it to DOT didn't hear any comments yet I'll reach out to them same with Department of Health. I referred it to the fire district and I'm waiting for comments from them. Fire marshal, I did reach out to the fire marshal. He said he was going to get me some comments pretty soon. The Riverhead Highway, I didn't hear any comments back from him, but I could definitely reach out in regards to that curb cut on Debbie Lane. The town engineer, I actually did get comments back from him yesterday and he was just asking that a SWPPP would probably the SWPPP will be required as it's disturbing at least an acre of land and he's also asking for a photometric lighting plan is required which I stated in the exterior lighting plan. ARB I'm gonna my only suggestion in regards to Sending it to ARB is just to wait until we get the zoning board of appeals approval, just for any case they need to move that building around and redo it. But I will definitely give him that information when it comes time regarding windows to break up. So recommendations is that to go to the ARB, get the denial letter to get the necessary approvals that are needed. In the meantime, I do have a resolution on to at least classify it as a listed action and a negative declaration. Sorry, I can't speak today. And then once they obtain the relief that's needed, then we'll schedule a public hearing and go from there.

Sorry, a lot of information and my mouth wasn't working. That's good. Yep. Okay, thank you Marissa. Thank you very much. Good luck. We'll see you soon, I'm sure. Okay, Greg. Golf course zoning use. The town board has listed us as an interested party. All right. We're going to go ahead and get started. Okay. board has listed us as an interested party.

All right. Good afternoon everybody. So here to give the planning board a high level overview of the proposed golf course zoning use district amendments. that are being considered by the town board. The town board issued a positive declaration earlier in the month requiring the preparation of a draft generic environmental impact statement. What we're looking at is a, what I'll call a suite of code amendments related to creating a framework in order to create accessory golf cottages at six existing golf courses within the town. If you go to the last page of the packet that I provided, It shows you, it identifies the six golf courses that we would target for the proposed rezoning. They consist of the Great Rock Golf Course, Bainting Hollow Club, Friars Head, Cherry Creek, the woods at Cherry Creek, Long Island National Golf Course. So those would be the six courses that would be rezoned. We would be creating a new golf course zoning use district. main reason this is being done is because pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comp plan the plan recommended golf cottages with the use of transfer of development rights pursuant to new york town law anytime you're creating a new receiving district or sending district you need a draft generic environmental impact statement when you create that geis you're going to be looking at things such as water supply emergency service transportation capacity sanitary wastewater management etc so there's a suite of code amendments and I'll just go briefly through the different components of it one like I said is the creation of the new zoning use district entitled golf course zoning use district what I did is we had gone to the town board a couple of times to come up with a way to get this change in effect. One of my initial iterations was to rezone the golf courses to residence A80, which is already a receiving district. The problem with that was these receiving districts have to be mapped with specificity, so we would still need a GEIS in order to do that. And then if we were to rezone them to RA80, there would have been a possibility for if those golf courses closed they could avail themselves of essentially allowing the double density to be used with the existing transfer of development rights so thought was scrap that rather than have to justify the potential doubling of potential residential density we would just create the golf course zoning use district the new golf course zoning use district essentially mirrors almost word for word the existing two acre residential zoning districts meaning APZ, RA80, RB80 in terms of the you know two acre residential density, minimum lot size, all the dimensional requirements, the permitted uses with the exception of golf course zoning use district has golf course as a permitted use which they're already golf courses rather than require a special permit for an expansion of a pre-existing non-conforming use we'd eliminate that sort of extra step so the golf course zoning use district again at its base is a two acre residential zoning use district so there is no increase in the underlying residential density if we were to apply the golf course zoning use district of the golf course parcels we are amending the official zoning map of the town of Riverhead to rezone those six existing golf courses to the GC zoning use district we're amending the definitions in Town Code 301 dash 3 to include a definition of golf cottage which I will go through the packet to get you the definition so the definition of a golf cottage is a permitted accessory use to a standard golf course subject to the use of preservation credits as noted in section 301 dash 208 intended to provide convenient lodging options for golfers or visitors wishing to stay on a golf course. Golf cottages are not to exceed 600 square feet of gross floor area per unit and shall be limited to one golf cottage per hole for a maximum of 18 cottages per standard golf course. Golf cottages can be freestanding structures or attached units with no more than two attached cottages with common walls separating units. Nothing contained within this definition shall be construed to permit the construction of restaurants, spas, or other type of amenities related to golf courses. Golf cottages shall remain under the ownership and operation of the golf course upon which they are located and shall not be subdivided or placed into condominium ownership for the purposes of transfer. Golf cottages shall not be used for the purposes of establishing residency within the town of Riverhead. So essentially, if a golf course wished to avail themselves and create golf cottages for a standard golf course, which, again, we're amending the definition slightly to say a standard golf course has 18 holes and may include a clubhouse and golf cottage as accessory uses. Standard golf courses have a minimum size of no less than 125 acres. We're going to strike language in that right now that talks about a minimum par of 70 and a minimum of 6,000 yards as measured from the middle Ts. At its base, if a golf course has a minimum size of 125 acres, 18 holes it's considered a standard golf course so if a golf course wanted to build 18 cottages what they could construct would be 18 freestanding 600 square foot units or they could construct I'll call it a duplex just because I don't know how else to describe it but two attached golf cottage units each unit being 600 square feet the total of that structure would be 1200 square feet and they could build a nine of those what I'll call duplex units in no way could they exceed 18 cottages on a standard golf course suppose they already have not to interrupt you but suppose they already have 27 holes out of the golf courses that we are seeing of the golf courses that we're proposing the rezoning on none of them have more than 18 holes so They're only, I mean.

But Bading and Hull had more than 18, and I'm not singling them out. Believe me. It's an interesting, I mean, I will look into that. To my knowledge, I didn't think they had more than 18, but. Just 18. Bading and Hull was just 18. Just to clear it up before it comes on. I want to see three miniature golf courses there in billions of homes. I mean, again, a golf course still has to have 125 acres. So in the event a course right now that exceeds 125 acres, if they wanted to try to subdivide off some property, if they go below 125 acres, they no longer meet the definition of the minimum size for a standard golf course. They have to still have it. any subdivision after they're built, correct? As long as a golf course were to retain 125 acres, I mean, again, the way most of these golf courses are constructed, there's not a tremendous amount of excess land on what I'll call the periphery of the course that would really allow a subdivision to take place. You know, most of these courses are sort of designed where they encompass the entire property. I've got one more question while it's on my mind. What about cluster zoning? Can they cluster zone them? So, yeah. So, the Gulf Course Zoning Use District, again, does really very closely mirror the existing two-acre residential zoning districts. It does require clustering. So in the event that a golf course, if one of these courses were to, if we change them to the golf course zoning use district, if they were to close that day, they could be redeveloped with a two-acre clustered residential subdivision. So, I mean, let's say a 150-acre course closed, they could develop maybe a 75-lot residential subdivision that would require clustering and preservation of open space and agricultural soils. I mean, the reality of it is most of these courses have already been, you know, the prime agricultural soils are probably not there. They've been completely redeveloped. So they may just be open space and allow it to be, you know. I don't know if it still exists, but Great Rock had a lot of open space. They were trying to develop that into more, you know, to include houses years back, not too many years back, because they had a lot of extra space now. I don't know if they… Great Rock or maybe… hollow club no i'm talking about great rock there was a lot because they were they were trying to to redevelop that hole i know the great rock course and i'm not super super familiar with it but i do recall seeing a lot of natural open space buffer areas so i don't know how much excess land they would have for redevelopment i'm only asking the questions now so that when they come up and they'll come up. Okay. All right. So 301, amending the definition, you know, creating a definition of a golf cottage, amending the definition of a standard golf course. We would amend Town Code Section 301-208, the redemption of preservation credits to include the new golf course zoning use district as a receiving area. Identify the redemption formula for the redemption of TDRs as it relates to the size of golf cottages. Right now, the proposed amendments, as desired by the town board, require one TDR for, I believe it's 1,200 square feet of development. Yes, 1,200 square feet of floor area for golf cottages. So essentially, if a course wanted to build the full 18 cottages that they're entitled to, it would require nine TDRs. This is a departure from the recommendations of the comprehensive plan which recommended one TDR per cottage. When this was initially discussed with a couple of work sessions with the town board, several of the board members said they didn't feel that that was a viable number for one TDR for 600 square feet. So they made the recommendation to do 1,200 square feet of floor area per TDR. Have you gotten to the point where who can rent these places? Do they have to be members or they can be from the general public? So we haven't discussed that. That is something that I probably would anticipate to come in, come into discussion. How that would affect environmental impacts, I'm not really sure. that you know I'm not really sure the you know the sanitary wastewater whether it's a member of the golf course or a you know someone who's just renting it as a you know a transient rent I want to say transient rental but functioning similar to a hotel you know the impacts of the development and the structure and any type of improvements I don't know that they necessarily would vary whether or not the tenant or the healthy whoever's gonna rent that structure for period whether it matters if they're a member or not I just received this lengthy document so I'm just I'm just giving you the kind of again the Planning Board is an interested agency the Planning Board doesn't have approval authority for these zoning changes I'm just giving you the action does the Planning Board have to take right now the planning board doesn't have to take any action you're you're an interested agency you know essentially the same ability to comment on the scope and the GEIS as a member of the public the Planning Board obviously if a course wants to come in and develop these golf cottages the Planning Board would be the agency reviewing the site plan which I mean we're very familiar with reviewing site plans but for in terms of the action right now of the rezoning the code amendments you know the GEIS the Planning Board is not an involved agency because you don't have direct permitting or approval authority over these series of actions. Greg, these cottages would only be used for golfers, or can they be used if there are weddings or special events, can they be rented out at that time? So that was basically Mr. Nero's question. I'm not sure that that's really relevant to the environmental review, but that's something that the town board could consider. I mean again really in terms of the functionality of a golf cottage if someone's staying in it someone's staying in it whether or not they're a member of the course again I'm not really sure if that's any sort of bearing on environmental impacts but they are called golf cottages golf cottages correct and then last action would be including we're amending the residents district schedule of dimensional regulations to include dimensional regulations for the new golf course zoning use district which again exactly mirror what the two acre residential zoning use districts currently currently require so minimum lot size of 80,000 square feet lot width of 175 feet 15% impervious surface 35 foot maximum height of buildings 60 foot front yard depth 30 foot 65 foot side yard combined uh 60 foot side yard about inside street and a 75 rear yard depth which again exactly mirrors the two acre residential zoning use districts so there would be no increase in potential density you know if a course were to close and then redevelop to a residential subdivision um you're allowed to be 35 feet high life right now the existing right now the existing maximum height of a structure in APZ RA 80 and RB 80 is 35 feet um I don't see a golf cottage at 600 square feet I don't see someone building a 35 foot tall 600 square foot structure I would see this more of a single store you know single story maybe 18 feet with a peaked roof you know like keeping in character with a Norfolk development I mean I don't see I don't see why you'd build a I agree with you on that do you think you're just set a height this way somewhere down the road if somebody decides that they want to build a two-story or so the maximum height is for the dimensional regulation so I mean think of that that also applies to a single-family residence so I mean right now in every residential zoning use district the maximum height is 35 feet so i mean you get a two story with a peaked roof you approach that so that's not there's nothing changing from the existing zoning in terms of maximum permitted height we're defining the square footage that they could be yeah could they be why not right why not just define the height that they can be too i mean so if a cottage one cottage is a maximum of 600 square feet if you build a two-story cottage and we can maybe through the maybe through the review of this we amend and tweak those definitions but i mean you're going to build a two-story structure with each floor having 300 square feet i mean it just it seems it seems really you said you can put two together at 1200 square feet so why wouldn't you take 600 on the bottom floor 600 on the second floor and there's your 1200 square feet are you allowed are you considering that or just two separate 600s it's just a question Greg that's all John brought up a good point so many and that could be something I think maybe we could refine the definition of the golf cottage to be one story that way you know a 1200 square foot footprint for one you know a duplex if they wanted to build the two attached cottages but practically I wouldn't see someone building a 35 foot tall 600 square foot cottage you know it's like you know you're gonna walk in you're gonna have the tallest Cathedral ceiling I've ever seen in my life and a 600 square foot structure so again the things that we will look at through the draft scope will be you know the introduction of proposed action needs environmental resources will go through water resources will discuss their locations within existing red water district extensions will discuss their location within Suffolk County groundwater management zones will discuss allowable sanitary densities potential impacts from the construction of these consider a maximum theoretical build out if every course were to avail themselves of this new zoning and every course wanted to build 18 cottages we would look at that also in terms of transportation and then there's some you know we're required to look at alternatives one would be the no action alternative the other alternative like I discussed briefly would be rezoning to RA 80 but again that in that action would have you know some unintended increased density consequences so that is the sort of golf cottage series of code amendments and the purpose and intent again planning boards under no obligation to comment you're not an approval agency at this point I'm just bringing it to the board for you know its knowledge and purpose I will you know relay some of the comments and I will keep them in mind as we go forward with the GIs just in terms of the two stories I know it's built with mr. Hogan just about you know building construction and what they'll be considered if they'll need to meet certain commercial standards or residential standards so we'll take that all into consideration as we move forward okay good job okay at this time we're gonna have public comments on resolutions. Any takers? Mr. Supervisor? No, sir. Okay. Barbara? All right. Gentlemen, let's run the resolutions. I'll move resolution 202653, squared form realty LLC for the minor subdivision resolution classifying an action as an unlisted pursuant to secret for the minor subdivision. So moved. Second. Moved and second. Mr. Zernick? Yes. Mr. Mr. Hogan, Mr. DeNero, and I vote aye, the motion carries. Our move is resolution 2026-054, Susan McCarthy, minor subdivision, resolution granting extensions of minor subdivision approval for the subdivision application entitled, Susan McCarthy, minor subdivision, so moved. Second. Moved and second, Mr. Zernicki, Mr. Hogan, Mr. DeNero, and I vote aye, the motion carries. Resolution 2025-055, 840 Old Country Road. Resolution granting site plan approval for the site plan application entitled 840 Old Country Road, which seeks approval to construct an approximately 6,000 square feet addition. Second. Moving to second. Do you guys want to vote on this today? Moving to second. Mr. Zernicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. DeNarro. Aye. And I vote aye to motion carries. Resolution 2025-56. Innovate fitness to classify an action as an unlisted action issue, a negative deck pursuant to secrecy. So moved. Second. Moved and second. Mr. Zernicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. De Niro? Aye. And I vote aye to motion carries. Okay, at this time, public comments on any matter. Not seeing any hands, can we move the minutes? I'll move the minutes of July 16th. So moved. Second. Moved and second. Mr. Zernicki? Yes. Mr. Hogan? Yes. Mr. De Niro? Aye. And I vote aye. The motion carries. Greg, any secret actions? Nope. Oh, there you are. Any other business staff? No. All right. Good job. No correspondence? Wow, it was a light week. No. We did get one yesterday morning, but that'll be included on the next agenda. Our next meeting date is Thursday, September 3rd, at 6 p.m. right here. Motion to close? Second. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Thank you, and everybody have a great weekend.

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