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Thank you. That was a big piece. Good morning, everybody. Today is Thursday, September 3rd. We are here for a work session and as we begin that work session we stand and say the Pledge of Allegiance Waskie would you like to see the watch? Thank you. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America And to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all At least that one was slower than the other day yeah does anybody have any announcements this morning they'd like to me so this next Thursday alive on 25 September 10th from Main Street from 6 to 9 p.m. we also will be closed next Monday town hall will be closed in observance of Labor Day and then on observance of the 25th anniversary of 9-11 at 10 a.m. at our memorial in Calverton right there on Edwards Avenue 10 o'clock we will be doing a memorial service and town hall will have a delayed opening that day till 1130 so with no other announcements we will move right into our first matter with Kevin Wood matters surrounding plan for parking management with Councilman Merrifield and our head planner and building department CDA Good morning. So the outline that you have in front of you, you have a printed outline and I'll also follow along here on the screen is really just that, it's an outline. To your point, it's not getting in the weeds of too much detail. It's kind of where we've been and why we're here. That's what I gleaned from this, it's just, okay. I mean. I think it'll be, we'll all get it. let me know if you'd like yeah what I first wanted to bring up was some thank you Kevin and Dawn and the town board we had a concern from the Chamber of Commerce and also the parking committee seeking parking changes to lot 5 and lot 6 in the back by moonfish and by Kurt at turquoise restaurant and I'm happy to say that the signs are in place to our parking limits and it's being enforced and I'm noticing that there are plenty of spots available now I went by on Sunday and saw several people eating at the restaurant outside with parking in the back and also there was I think you said this morning there were spaces all available yes so I thought that was a big improvement from what we had requested to be done we're also asking that the enforcement of 15 minutes on Main Street is that the time limit we're asking that be enforced by the police as well so I just wanted to give an update that that's what's been happening and we at least have that part of it done it's a real good micro example of what good enforcement can do obviously we have bigger lots in the downtown district and it may not be as easy as looking at just 20 spaces we have lots that have hundreds of spaces and as you know next week I'll be here Thursday I believe for what I think we want of two parking utilization plans moving forward but I want to say this was really the backbone that I felt very strongly we had to get right the town has to get this right because it's not only this year it's the next 10 years of technology that will help the various departments that are involved in parking get get through actually managing parking so I wanted to also ask Ashley if you please come on up as well because this is going to affect also the rec park and Recreation Department with their beach stickers and everything this is something that they hopefully can be utilizing as well In person anyway, so a little bit of background here and I want to start with this slide And the 33% is not exact but the balance, you know, and we'll get way into this next week But an equitable parking management program is definitely These three attributes enforcement technology and I wouldn't have said that 20 years ago Because technology like this that exists today didn't exist then and parking policy and that would be the will of this board to be honest to put forth policies that you'll ultimately decide on, whether it be paid parking, time parking on Main Street, and those types of things. Take that pie that you have in front of you, and just that will be adjusted through the years to get as close to perfect as possible of a parking management program. The duck ponds are off in next week, Bob. That's what I was going to talk about. It should be noted that everybody probably knows by now that when you make one small decision in parking, there are repercussions that reverberate no matter what decision it is. You almost feel like no decision is the right decision, but you have to stay steadfast. And you realize, for example, this decision that Denise just pointed out was for the benefit of the businesses that asked for it. What happened? There were residents that, no secret, that complained about that decision. So we have to find space we may or may not have to find spaces for them right because there's resident parking that's built into Some things and I don't want to get into the weeds in this but my point is this Every single decision will have repercussions and we should just be ready for it We're modifying people's behavior and so for years and years that lot the lot that we're discussing Which is behind moonfish is a three-hour parking limit already. It's been three hours for as long as I can recall, but it hadn't been enforced to that four, three-hour parking. And the behavior of the residents of the apartment modified to no one's going to give me a ticket, so I'm going to park here all day. And all that it took was to modify the parking and to enforce that parking to get the behavior to change. And as you say, you know, people are unhappy about that because it changes, you know, things on their side. But at the end of the day, the businesses had requested this very, you know, stringently or stridently in May of this year, and it took us a little bit to get that implemented. But, you know, they've had a little bit of time to warn the residents of the building and some time to, you know, let the chamber to communicate and the bid to communicate what was expected. And now it's helped immensely right away. And one final point on that, and the town has issued a notice to CURE to the builder over at Heatherwood for taking away those other, there's eight spaces that they've taken and they're removing all of that, repaving the ground, and as of the 18th, September 18th, those parking spots are back as well. Yeah. Excellent. More of this next week, but I will talk about the communication of these changes and how important it is. it's really important to let people know ahead of time what might be happening, what changes are happening. It's just something that we will pay more attention to. So here's our observations that got us here to this table today. The town has a real need for technology. We just spoke about that specifically, the Riverhead Police Department, for future parking reality changes and staffing. Staffing has been communicated to me and others that has been challenging at some point, and that's why technology matters more. The recreation department was independently looking at a product called Yodel Pass, which sold digital permits and passes. And I think we all quickly realized how many different systems are we going to have in the town. And if they're not talking to each other, we're going to realize that a year down the road and go, well, this beach permit wasn't enforced because it's modeled by this piece of software. So all I was advocating for was a global system. The existing vendor for the courts, excellent vendor, by the way. We agree with that. And those that work with MPS? Can I just hold you back on the last thing you said with the recreation permit? Does that require a gate, or this is just to online, to get your permit online? So a gate at the beach? We're not there yet. I was just saying that this is just online purchase of the beach permit. And enforcement of thereof, because right now they're enforcing through a hang tag, a sticker if you will yeah okay the future movement is to go digital and we know we're going to feather that in more about that next week but the point is all these independent systems that were being looked at i understand okay um where i was where i was fbs who worked many years with the courts made a presentation to upgrade their services utilizing their handhelds with potential integrations for possible future pay to park services in alpr that was not fully vetted and that's part of the reason we're here and we certainly want FBS to be part of the vendors that we will ultimately choose sorry to interrupt again but for the thousands of people that are watching and ALPR is an automatic license plate readers realizing we wanted to eventually have parking permits including beach permits be digital it's called the plate is a permit system we discovered that yet another vendor gogov and i just discovered this in 2026 is the current riverhead vendor that already houses some 6500 vehicles you manage that correct yes and i can update that just on the numbers of last year it's more closer to a little over 10 000. okay all right um okay uh this is an example of what that looks like now when somebody comes to the town of Riverhead behind what you see here is a company called GoGov and they're giving not only beach parking permits and that's our world my world but we have other permits and I circled that for a reason because we think that that beach parking permit should be put in the bucket of parking and not necessarily in the East Creek guest pass or I'm sorry night fishing permit as an example. Things related to parking should stay related to parking and on that same system. The police department has stated a strong need to utilize, I know you've all heard, there's a quality ALPR, that's an automated license plate reading enforcement system, and that solution should be easily integrated into any future enforcement system that this town adopts. I'll explain what that is. If we're going through a parking lot or the police department is going through a parking lot that has 300 spaces and does not have the staff that would go, you know, every 10 spaces, police cars go through and they scan a plate and it immediately shows, is this a valid parking session? If that particular parking lot is a paid parking lot in the future, yes, this is a valid parking session. Yes, this is a permitted parking session. We don't have that yet. What other information is included when you scan a license plate? I know this is a big subject, especially with FLOC. It would simply be reporting back what's in that database of what the person put in when they got the permit. So their name, their address? Yes. But the address would not have to come to the handheld, and often it's not. It's not. Really what should be coming back is the plate number and is this a valid parking session. It is often not an address from a from a parking police officers point of view not an address Is this a closed? Yes database to only to town a riverhead make certain that information is not shared with other outside entities

Maybe if people are going to the fishing pier then all sudden those plates those addresses get shared by email To vendors selling fishing equipment boating equipment things like that when cars are in marinas and so forth through I just want to make sure that this is a closed system. Absolutely closed system. We keep that information private as our own collections specifically for parking purposes only and there's no outside access. More private than I've seen currently in place. I just want to make sure whatever vendor that we sign with that that's a that's a you know stated in our agreement that no information is shared outside. Yes, and at the same time it should be the town of Riverhead's information and you should own the data. You don't own public data, but you should always have control of your database. Very important. MR. Kevin, with that, there's 10,000 vehicles that GOGOV recognizes in their database. If we don't go with GOGOV, is that all transferable to where we end up? MR. So I'm actually not advocating not going with GOGOV. MR. No, I'm just asking the question. MR. Yeah. MR. I'm not saying you are or you aren't. MR. So the second part of this is that, if I'm correct, ma'am, if I'm wrong, 20 percent of those 10,000 records have license plates? MS. Yeah, because it's not a required thing. So I would suggest that it be a completely business fresh. My first thinking was build an API. Have GoGov build an API. Quite honestly, they had admitted to us that they should have maybe possibly had one to connect to FBS, but we found out that they don't have an API. They don't really have plans to do an API to 2027, and 20% of the records don't have a plate anyway. So that brings us back to permitting and enforcement within a closed-end system and let GoGov keep doing what they're doing in the other permits that they manage. I think that's sort of where we're at. Yeah, I think when you touched on with the night fishing and all that, technically all of these are for parking. So it might say night fishing, but it's allowing you to park in this lot after 10 o'clock. So it's still, they're all focused on parking. Every single one of these is parking? Yeah, it allows people to park in a spot or on like the 4x4 pass is allowing them to drive and park on the beach, but it also includes parking in the lot. So when the police or whoever is scanning it, it all refers to being allowed to have your vehicle in a set location. And I just asked Rich Downs from Code Enforcement to be here for the meeting as well. Perfect. That would be a question. A lot of the technology also refers to him. These permits. Sorry, Justin, I'm touching this and I shouldn't. the presentation so I'm not quite sure what what exactly we're talking about so we're talking about the future late and I apologize for that no problem the future of enforcement and parking systems my question is right now the way these are enforced correct me if I'm wrong every single one of these is a sticker summer hang tags summer stickers but they all are yeah they're all physical things for parking your vehicle somewhere so they might just be worded like East Creek guest pass but you need that pass to park there okay so they should all be included okay so data can always be transported but we're talking about data that has 20 80 percent no plates and we're going to a plate based system which is a simple 2027 with getting those plates right we start a new database that's what I would say starting a complete fresh of entering like you're applying for it you're entering it and then we make it a required field some of them have it because it's sometimes we put it in we have it all on written stickers everyone's required to have a license plate written down and we have the information but to go through 10,000 stickers to put them on there they could just make a new location if if we're going with you know some guest passes being hanging passes presumably that vehicle enters the parking lot is it notifying like our TCO that the plate is not recognized and as a violation taking place and then the TCO drives there to find a hanger is that like that would be good that would be a step above what we're talking about ALP are there would be fixed license plate recognition that is possibility in the future to have a camera on the back of a booth do exactly that and quite honestly it could actually give the ticket in the future I don't think we're there yet I think what we're trying to do is integrate systems first that is a possibility what I'm saying if they have hang if they're guest passes they're just hanging from their right there so we can't give tickets to so yeah but generally has a guest pass all right gotcha so their license plate may not be this we say they're not registered so so that you know that's policy training that you would look for a guest pass in this case right so maybe something would be triggered by the ALPR but hey do they have a guest pass is that what I'm hearing that would be the exception to the rule yeah if you're having an ALPR go through the parking lot and they pick of a lot they may have a ticket look for the guest base the tickets are all manually done like entered and presented so the officers on scene it's not tickets that are done via email stuff right it's about manually but on a future handheld yeah yeah so the tco could look at the car they should yes there's always exceptions sorry with this i would like to you know integrate also if we go to day passes how they would integrate into this as well policies that's in a policy category so just going forward after several meetings with go gover we did i said this before no api did exist there was no plans to have available soon and um that would allow of course fps to utilize the permits that already existed with their proposed handhelds we talked about this 80 of those existing records don't have the plate numbers uh and see the court and police department both found some desired features that they would like exist uh you know examples of that would be a printed photo on the ticket itself um and more adding to that of additional photos that the violator could see online um both of those didn't seem to be available in the current fbs system. Dennis from FBS indicated that could be a future upgrade. I call that the alibi killer because when you see a photo of your car and how the infraction is right there and blatant, you usually pay for the ticket right then and there. And that's completely a goal for the town to have these tickets paid literally within a half hour. And you'll find that with some of these systems, that's what happens. So yeah, just to back up a little, The handheld is basically a telephone with a scanner and a printer, and they can use it to scan the registration. Then it gives a drop-down menu, which Councilwoman Merrifield has been very excited about because it lets you choose without handwriting in. So it's speedy, but it also eliminates any issues with prosecution of the ticket. It prints a picture of the violation on the ticket and provides a QR code so that the violator can right there, right then and there, pay the ticket. And that's the objective to end the tickets. It prints a waterproof ticket. It goes under the windshield, and the person, you know, then can pay it. But not a handwritten ticket, which is what we're doing now. the handheld printed ticket also automatically uploads that data to the Justice Court system so that the Justice Court staff doesn't have to manually enter the handwritten tickets that currently exist. So I just wanted to kind of cover that. Your employees are not entering that. FBS is entering that. I have never seen what that costs Justice Court. It's none of my business, but I will say that the Justice Court doesn't do that. FBS does that for the Justice Court. No, they do it. Yeah, they do. They do that for them. Obviously, having information at the front end of it, as you indicated with the drop-down, makes for a more consistent, but more importantly, real time. And what I mean by that is if somebody violated parking policy today at 2 o'clock, at 2.05 that could be paid, and often is. with the system you currently have, we don't even see that data for days, certainly hours, possibly days in the system. You can pay it online, but if you go in right away to pay it, the ticket won't be there yet. So you have to then go back, and again, everything that you put in the way of somebody paying makes it less likely that they ultimately pay. People are people, and they forget about it and lose it. Lose the ticket, whatever happens after that. The little things, and the details are important, and you'll see there are a lot of details. You have a QR code. What if that QR code brings you to a portal? Okay, there's a portal there. How do I pay my ticket? I need to know my ticket number. I don't have my ticket number. I abandoned it. We're looking at systems that go right to the ticket itself. So when you hit the QR code, you're right there with the ticket, right there with the pay. But even better, it shows the older tickets that are also due. Even better than that, you want a permit. you can't get a permit until those tickets are paid. These little details are really important because you're going to have a lot of volume. Kevin, you said FBS. I know the court was adamant about having FBS. They were. So when is FBS, what's the timing on their upgrade? I'll get to that because you'll see the real purpose of this meeting, if I may. A couple of several departments learning of vendors that could provide parking management, enforcement, and permitting solutions. This led us to recommending that the town issue, and this is the right transparent thing to do, an RFP for upgrading and modernizing the system as a whole, where the town and us, PMC, parking mobility consultants, could take a look at the leading systems on the market that will provide solutions now that we're talking about, but more importantly, for the next 10 years. We won't even talk about AI and the way that's changing parking, too. It's just moving very quickly. So we want something that's future-looking. The crux of, and we'll get through this, you know, pretty quickly, transitioning. What we're doing is transitioning from a legacy manual process to an integral cloud-based enforcement and permitting solution. We are obviously modernizing and growing Riverhead, and we want our goals to be aligned with what else is happening. I think of an excellent recent two-hour policy adjustment. We've had proven success there. There's always, as I said, going to be for every change, there's going to be, and you saw it, there were people that were, you know, putting their hands up on that change. But the right thing was done there, ultimately, for downtown Riverhead. And I expect, you know, more policy changes to do the right thing for the stakeholders involved. So, optimizing these bottlenecks, you know, I want to read through some of this, but not all of it. We're taking a look at a policy and direction. We're getting away from manual ticketing. There's a lot of duplicative effort in the town of Riverhead right now that we want to get rid of. Here's some glaring examples. Again, more on this next week. The police department probably scratches their head a lot, and please speak up at any time. But just a little glaring example of, you know, ancient, what looks to be 25-year-old signs there on what we think is a yellow zone. Really not clear. And the parking utilization plan will go into detail on how to fix this. But just two glaring examples. The yellow zone, and yet the striping's not yellow, and the signs are old, and we don't know what the yellow zone means. And then you have a green zone on, I think, what would be the riverside. As I always forget, this is the west side. It's the west side. It's three hours on the north side of Main Street, that same green zone. So people now, okay, I want to remember green. Green means one hour. Unless I go to the other side, then it means three hours. So those have to be consistent. And when they're consistent, those policies, those drop-downs in the handhelds become very easy for new officers and new trainees. We talked about this before, the power of immediate systems to be able to accelerate revenue coming through. I think revenue, I think River has a wonderful opportunity to do, you know, the right thing by getting a system in place that would bring revenue in quicker, right? Not changing anything but the system to get revenue in quicker, operational intelligence. As you'll see as we go through these vendors, when we ultimately get to an RFP, some vendors allow you to use your own androids. Some vendors sell you Zebra-based systems. FBS is one of them. Some have two pieces. We want direct response from the police department on this. They might think that a second printer here is not good. It could be lost, dropped. So you'll see that some vendors are one piece with the printers built in. So integrated handhelds are definitely a part of the future here. They have to be. We talked about the GoGov limitations ultimately in the system and FBS to this point, again, excellent vendor. The court is very happy with them, but it's been in the court silo for the most part. On data-driven decision-making, I think this board would appreciate that as well. When you see data, as we saw, for example, again on the two-hour lot, yes, we could see it but i wanted to go a step further and have yourself supervisor and others see you know what exactly is happening how many warnings are we giving how many tickets are being written um from the world i came from that that's important to get back from the police department but also decision maker and town people should get um reports so you can make future decisions on um You know exactly what's happening in a particular lot. So you know just how good or how bad things are running Key analytics that I'm making reference to is turnover metrics going to be really important for this town going forward Warning and citation rates I myself have no idea what you know rate these these are happening Geographic heat maps let's you know some of its obvious, right? We know that the parking lots that are closer to the action, just to be blunt about it, are going, yeah, that has more action. But there are opportunities within walking distance. Again, next week I'll show right to the step, right, because we have a comfortable step level. How far is somebody willing to walk to get to Main Street if we consider the town square to be the heart of the town, which it will be? You know, is 120 steps too much? For some people it is. Or is it just right for somebody that's parking for free? or is it just right you know it's 80 steps better and I'll show that next week the weather doesn't it of course it does yep season weather everything I'm sure I'm sure the police department has the staff analytics but we want to you know really get into the metrics of and we're able to do that with these systems see which officers are writing where how much why they're not writing why somebody on Main Street is complaining that somebody's always in front of their store we uncovered that on our surveys that happened a lot so just paying attention to that data is so important and it also gives us feedback all from the community all the time it helps it helps them with their businesses FBS the four vendor vendors that some of you have seen presentations by they were recorded presentations early in the year where T2 systems passport Ames parking And, of course, FBS came in, I think, a couple of times and presented to you directly. There are differences in the business models, which we'll learn during the RFP process. And one of the glaring differences is you have some vendors that you pay for the handhelds, some that you lease, some SAS me and software as a service where you don't pay for individual permits. You pay one fee, and that will be compared, and everybody will be able to see that transparently what the difference is. Kevin, I also wanted to mention, too, for Mr. Downs, that some of these programs also have apps that apply to code enforcement as well. So that would be very efficient for code enforcement to have these same handheld devices. And that's one of the checkoffs we have on the ultimate matrix. This is, you know, interesting. you know these four vendors are currently serving the following you are a town you are a big township but this goes beyond the business district so you know Ames I think we liked but they're servicing Stony Brook University they're not a municipality that does not mean they could not you know handle the job here at hand so to speak but I'm pointing out that that's what we see here this is the reality of what's happening with these systems Bob to your point at it you know it can look complicated this slide does look complicated but enough to know that we have a bunch of things that are coming into a system based on policy and we have a bunch of things that are coming out on the output enforcement what we've dealt with so far what the town has dealt with really is the FBS side which is the citation management everything on the left side we haven't even dealt with and as part of a parking municipality plan none of that and that's why this has gone so easy on the right hand side so we're going to put those two together and feel comfortable with the choice going forward in terms of the roadmap bob you were speaking to and timing here i'll get right to the point that this should be deployed early part of 2027 I have drafted an RFP. Teresa has looked at it. I think all but the dates was very acceptable. Once that is drafted, it can be sent around, and we have the 1, 2, 3, 4 aspect of getting this ready for the first part of 2027. Can you go back to the smart meters? Is that what Hatchong is using, where you actually, you know, but the spaces are numbered there and then what you do is you put your space number in there and if you're going to be there for two hours you just put your credit card on there and you tap and pay that's correct that's so it's important to note that most municipalities come from a legacy of 200 2016 and before really before and you know the paid to sell technology has only been around since 2017 really blossomed during the pandemic now it's ubiquitous we have cities that are coming online with paid parking with no meters that's a decision again this board will make and i'll give you the the the pluses and minuses of placing parking meters at 12 to 15 000 a piece no that's okay yeah that's good to know some places use flow right around places with an over spot when will you be talking about the different systems related to enforcement this uh fbs t2 pass i'm gonna let that percolate by an rfp

you can have a spreadsheet with all the costs and everything that spreadsheet's already out i thought it would be it's like five point it's it's incredibly detailed it would be it would be a lot to go over. Not here, but we have that. It was emailed to us. But ultimately an RFP would draw that same information out, and it would be part of your review. I'm looking for this to be just transparently percolate based on the needs of this town. I don't see how we're different than other towns, but, I mean, it's just parking, right? So we want the most efficient. What town are you in? 10,000. He's got a lot of complicated situations on our end. 10,000 permits. And not just that, it's also code enforcement that we're looking at this to be with the court system, the beach, the rec department, and also code enforcement. So it's a lot of fields that this is going to encompass. And the other thing, too, is for downtown, the nice other feature of these systems is we can change the rules quickly for events. We can have an app that shows people where to park, what lots are available, how many spaces are open or not open and and if we have like with the construction going on downtown we can recommend certain lots over others based on that or our shuttle if we had a shuttle to the system those kinds of things can happen notifications to the public like where you can park or if we have a live on 25 that park is suspended or all those kinds of things would be right on the app this would make sure I know I put it this out to you before we've had this discussion but just for the sake of it just making sure it's town-wide you know whether it's Jamesport I know I know so much of our focus right now because of the revitalization of downtown but whether it's fire lanes or you know giving giving our TCOs which are part of our PD the ability to write those on a regular basis you know I said it before we've had two fires at Home Depot and it's one of our our biggest offenders of people parking in the fire lane and we just want to make sure that we're not we're not here you know you know stopping that from from getting there so that that's something that you know readily available and making sure that it works across you know we have such a vast heart you know just from Sound Avenue tourist traffic to you know waiting River entering our town so that's amazing that's exactly why in the last six months we did take a step back because of that we realized and that's why we started talking about the go-go's and all the other vendors we were like wait a minute we can't just have this great system or a system for permits and beaches and not make sure it's townwide I am I am now townwide focused and that's not how it started but yeah I wasn't saying that this was it I was just saying that that that's what I have in in this I don't know that you would you might have gotten the RFP because it's well thought out in terms of what is needed my next step is to make those changes that's a that's a day and and to get it around and and everybody authorized are going out and get it out to these prospective vendors and i think that'll percolate you know very transparently um as we analyze who could best service uh

some basic questions um one does the system when you scan it and you're in your your parking in let's call it the larger parking lot. Does the system in any way keep track of the spaces in terms of where you are parked, or is it general that you're just in this particular Minnesota parking lot? Because what I'm leading up to is that some systems where we have traveled, you can log on, and it tells you where there's available spaces. So does this system... Question. Will the system be able to tell you that there are currently five spaces downtown, this five over here wherever it may be you'll see you'll find in the parking industry that there's this big word of integration Dennis spoke about it integration and api's today we're talking about systems that would be enforcement and permitting they have GPS built into the handhelds so to answer the one question if you wrote a ticket to car a in this spot you would know exactly where that is because of the GPS both on the screen on the ticket and and internally for the courts. You're speaking about wayfinders, which would be next week's discussion in terms of, there are companies like ParkingLogix, as an example. I can give you a couple of websites where you can see that. And in fact, in Port Jefferson, I installed when you, before you got into the lot, you saw how many spaces were available, which is pretty forward thinking because you usually see that in airports, and it tends to be very industrial looking. So we made sure we made some custom signs that looked very Port Jeff Village, and it showed the number of spaces available. Very convenient. We went a step further and put that on the web. So you were home, you were having breakfast, you know that parking in Port Jeff is a pain, and you wanted to know if there were spaces in the parking lot. You knew ahead of time there were spaces in the parking lot. We were careful not to have the technology say that this space was available because you don't want cars colliding to this one space that's available, especially with an important or a very festive event. So to answer your question, that's a complete different company, integrator and vendor, that would be integrated into these systems and could be, but that's called wayfinding or parking space. I don't know what the name would be, but great feature. I look at that as down the line. You go to that area. It's almost a luxury right now. And I don't have to do circles around the block. I'm not going to waste my time going to parking lot A if I know that it's full. The second thing is that for certain, say, higher standard venues, Gary is here from the Suffolk Theater. And he didn't ask me this, but I'm asking. But my thought process is, if I was buying tickets to an event at the Suffolk Theater, is there any way to incorporate reserved spaces within the town so that if I'm buying my tickets, I can go on here and there will be certain allocated, I don't know what the number is, maybe it's 40 parking lot spaces, that in advance I can pay $5 and know that I have a reserved space close to the Suffolk Theater to limit my walkability. Necessarily, if it's going to be pouring rain, I'd pay $5 and know that I'm going to be in that spot. And it provides, you know, I might be paying more for a service, but I'm getting, you know, the quality of being parked closer to an event. So could you reserve a spot online in an area to accommodate venues like the Suffolk Theater? Absolutely. Again, these systems are relegated to parking enforcement and permitting or issuing that permitting. Reserve spaces can be done on a pay-by-sell app easily, or you can buy gated systems. I don't think that's what we're talking about yet, but if there were a garage here, that would be the perfect opportunity to pull up to a garage, show a QR code because you've already prepaid, and get in and have that reserved parking. Since we don't have a garage now, I think, Gary, if I may turn around and ask you, we've done an experiment where we had people park in this parking lot, and I thought it worked out really well, actually, right? You had an event that I believe, right? There was a lease. Yeah. Well, a lot of it was a shuttle, but I think. Oh, you're talking about a live 145? Yes. Yeah, so we put the theater's parking in the town hall parking lot so that people knew they had a space that they could access because there was plenty of spaces here. We cordoned it off, I think. And then it's a simple walk because every single crosswalk is signalized, and you can get right to the theater with a few, just a, you know, it's probably a five-minute walk. So I think that worked out well. We've also talked about a shuttle that might operate, you know, Thursday through Sunday, 15-minute intervals, and that people could park here in the Town Hall parking lot, grab the shuttle, and just do loops downtown for, you know, different, to go wherever they want to go. I'm just looking at it and how we're engaging with the local businesses down there. The initial reaction for me, paid parking, is like I don't want somebody to say, I'm going to go downtown and I'm going to go to this particular restaurant. I know it's going to cost me $5. I might just go up to a restaurant at $58. So we have to take all that into consideration. you know and and i i don't for a long period of time parking is going to be struggle until our garage is built and there are multiple layers but if i thought that when i bought my tickets to to a theater show and i can pay five dollars and i know that there's rows that are going to be right there i'm going to pay that one-time fee to make my evening better but a resident that's maybe in in a complex is not going to reserve you know a spot every night right but if a resident is moving furniture hand or doing something or going somewhere or has an elderly person coming and wants a certain space you know that is reserved parking that you know like my mother has walking you know issues so if i knew she was coming over maybe i would reserve a certain space that i know that she could be closer to the building and i would pay a fee to know that that would be available so i just want to know like is this something that absolutely this committee is kind of thinking about or potentially incorporating into it so i'll make sure reserve parking is is an entire subset of the parking utilization plan i think you have to have it i i like exactly what you're saying but when i use the word gate that's also a human gate you said that that was monitored out here so let's just say you had multiple events happening but gary's got an event what's to stop other people from parking on the second street lot for example that's what i'm saying if you go on the app and the signage is improper in front of each if you did it for 30 stalls whatever it may be and there's a sign right there this is a reserved spot and you pay for that it's not necessarily that you're getting spot 101 but but spots you know 100 to 125 are reserved because and also um you know because the time frame if i reserved it from you know eight to nine and somebody reserved it from nine to ten or something like that that car might not be leaving yet or i may be a few minutes early and so there's got to be a little flexibility but it's got to be like these are reserved spots and if you're parked in a reserved spot you didn't pay for that then that's a violation but i'm just i'm just trying to find ways that we're thinking about every every business that's downtown and how it affects everybody. A lot of municipalities do exactly what you're talking about. When you go to the city, you can prepay, like you said, either in a garage, outside. Spot Hero built that whole business on it. Yeah, Spot Hero, exactly. That's what I was literally going to say. But make no mistake, when you buy from Spot Hero, you're just pre-buying a spot. You're not actually getting a spot. What you're talking about, which I think should happen, is buying an actual, at least spot in a space that's designated. but I would caution that let's say we did 30 spots and Gary didn't have an event for two weeks. We need those spots for employees. We need it for regular parking. So to me, you come out with the reserved parking for the event or the two-day event or the one-day event, and then it comes back to regular parking, which is impossible. But again, you need a human being to do that. If an elderly couple wants to go downtown and have dinner at a local restaurant and they want the ability to have a space and they do it in advance. If tonight we're going out to dinner and I book a spot and I see that it's close to the restaurant, then it's easier for walkability for seniors with disabilities. You'll see this next week very clearly what the plan is on that. But the word you want to use there is validation. You want parking validation. If somebody goes in and eats in a restaurant, paid $2 to park, $5 to park, they'd have the opportunity to get that back from the restaurant owner very easily. And how are you then spacing out handicapped accessibility throughout this program? So, you know. You have adequate handicapped spaces now. But is it substantial throughout all of downtown? So when you're redoing these parking lots and we have a large senior community here, are we allocating the proper amount of spaces and that it's spaced throughout the whole town and that same thing? You're right now, you have over the New York State rule on the number of handicapped parking spaces. You can go above and beyond that. Again, to use an example in Port Jefferson, anybody with a handicapped sticker can park in any space and not pay for it. That's just a policy you could have. But I just also want to look at that the handicapped spaces are just not standard blue stripe spaces, but there's substantial allow as certain vehicles have become more affordable to have these side extenders that come out and you need that loading range and offloading range that's available. So whether one car parks straight in and one backs in, they're sharing that unloading space between the two. And so that also, when we're considering locations of everything, needs to be there. It's not just spaces that somebody can't open the door and get out. And then we have to really watch. When we're striping all these, I'm assuming you're restriping everything and you're coming up with proper sizes. But, you know, the new vehicles and the doors and stuff like that, you know, I just went to Petrog yesterday and I had a meeting in there in the morning. And it's like I can't open my door without, you know, like trying to hold my hand outside so I don't hit the car next to me. and then literally trying to back my truck out because they're saying the goal was to get as many spaces as we can, but it's not realistic to what's getting in and out, you know. By 18 is the standard. You just got to make sure, you know, when you go to other venues and they have the larger spaces, it's so much more appreciated, like just a little bit of extra room. Do you have a handicap? Do you have a Hummer? Well, something big, you have like a Hummer. God, I'm drained. Yeah. The handicap striping is like ADA standardized. So the load area, unload area is going to automatically be in whatever we restripe because it's got to be. It's required. I just want to mention one thing. When everybody does look at the matrix and they look through, there was a huge priority by the police department to pick a group that had that ALPR system with it. Because they don't have the number of officers to be able to walk around just going car to car checking with the tickets. that system on the roof of a car basically pings for them, correct, Kevin? Absolutely. And that way when they cruise a lot, they're going to know, okay, who's in violation? Now we'll get out of the car and I'll go give them a ticket. It just makes it much more efficient for them with the number of officers that they have. That was a big priority for the chief. I just wanted everybody to know that in advance. The system, of course, is only good as the database that houses that information and talks back to the handheld. and so it you know 4g 5g that that information if it lags and you start giving tickets because it lags she says little things that are really important and those proven systems are really important they use Starlink what's the feed I just wanted rich to be here too because I wanted everybody to know that But some systems have the apps and some don't have the apps for the code enforcement. So we want to look at it, right? I think I'm not sure if every single one of them had apps for code enforcement, but we want to make sure that when we're picking also covers his department, makes it easier for his officers. They're not writing tickets anymore and they're procedurally sufficient, that everything is built right into the system. So I just wanted everybody to be aware of those other considerations. It's a great tool. Yeah, more of this next week, but what I really do like about Riverhead is you do have alternative parking all over the place. The word would be everything. You said what I like about Riverhead, I just say everything. I just like everything. But you really do. You have this lot, you have this lot. Right there, of course, it's vacant at 4 o'clock. And again, yes, weather related, sure, but... I have a question for you. Just so that everybody is clear, I need to be cleared up on this. So behind Moonfish, how many hour parking is it? Two. And eight to 11. Okay. So then in the Turkish restaurant, that's the only other spot where it's two hour parking? Yes. And then the rest of downtown, the rest of back there is not two hour parking? That's correct. Okay. Main Street is one. What's that? Main Street is one other than a select number of 15 minutes. I want to talk about the 15 minutes. I think that's really short if I have a business there and I'm unloading and I happen to be 16 minutes And I'm in my store with my load and I'm getting a ticket because it's gonna take me I think 15 minutes is a short change that that's I'm not trying to accuse anybody

15 minutes in front of the bagel what is it, Goldberg? Goldberg. And then there's another one. But what the owners, and particularly like the chocolate company, they've asked that to be enforced because people will sit there for hours at the rendezvous and they have not had a complaint about the 15. You go get a cup of coffee and a bagel at Goldberg's, 15 minutes works. I'm fine with it. They haven't complained about the 15 minutes. We put that 15 minute in at their request years back. I don't have, you know, I don't have. To answer your question, five change to two hours, and the signage is fantastic. And from my, you know, looking at this, my observation is working great. Here's the river right here. This is Moonfish. And then the bottom part of six is two hours. But all this is not. So all of Bain Street is 15 minutes? No. All of Bain Street is one hour, except for several 15-minute sections. So if I'm going to the theater, I can't park on... You're not going to want to park on Main Street. You want those spaces to turn over as often as possible. So if you're going to the theater, you're going to want to park behind, for sure. If I'm going to the theater, I want to park on Main Street, but you're saying I can't... I mean, I think about that, though. But it's only one hour during certain times of the day. So I'm not sure when it ends. It may be 6 p.m., and it may be after that you can park there for more than an hour. But I think the objective of that, and that was part of one of our prior parking studies, actually creating the timing because the way you want it to work is the people that are staying the longest, you want to park further away. They can walk. But the businesses that need the turnover are the ones on Main Street, so the one hour worked. And if you're going to go to a restaurant, you're going to want a two-hour or a three-hour spot, and those will be specifically designated. So the objective of that was to really get that turnover, and it's been a problem because on Main Street, Peggy Kaneski will tell you, there will be employees that will park all day long on Main Street, not allowing people to stop by. Oh, here's flowers. She's got a nice display outside. Here's flowers. I'm going to pick something up on my way home, and now I can't find a spot. Or residents. Or residents parking. Or residents. But the idea, and I think the reason that the two-hour spots go to 11 p.m. is that a resident at 9 p.m. could park there two hours to 11, and then they're good for the night. So they're not going to be able to use the spot all day long, but they will be able to use it at night. So they're not going to park far from their place overnight. But the businesses have, I think, I would say vigorously complained about the need for the turnover in that those two areas, Main Street in particular and the areas, the 5 and 6 lot. And it's been a hard road to get to the point where we could even put those regulations in place and start enforcing them to change that behavior so those businesses can survive. As Main Street evolves, there's going to be more demand, and we need to make sure we really effectively use what we have to support the businesses and the residents. But if you're a resident, you can't park in a prime spot on Main Street all day long. It's really not fair. MR. And it's very common. MS. A couple questions on our end, and that the reason why we've had so many apps and whatnot is because we've been trying to solve this issue on our side for several years, I'm happy that we're part of this conversation but I know that the that word has to go out to RFP and it seems like there's something already kind of in the works as far as the what's required for this app but we have so many variables and that's why we have so many stickers and we have hang tags and we have big hang tags and little hang tags and because situations come up all the time that we haven't been able to find something to fit all these needs so So just examples of that are not only are we policing the beach parking lots, and that's for residents, but all the streets that are local, there's new implementation of street parking. If you live there, you can't park on the street without a permit. But if you have a party, we have to let the police know and say there's going to be more people out there. And how do we add that feature, and is there something in the back end where we can say such and such address, whatever it might be? and then included in that is when we have events like at the beach if someone rents the beach for after hours we usually would have a staff there or tell the police don't take it at six whatever there's a party there they have a valid permit can we have something implemented for that and this might be for next week's meeting i'm not sure um no this is this is perfect information like this uh was the two saturdays you have the snapper tournament yeah and so we we've set out the two-hour parking we're enforcing what's been there for a while right that was a question that came up the other day was how do we allow those people to be there be part of the snapper tournament and not get you know ticketed so i think those are hurdles so there's a lot where like if there's a breakdown that i can tell you well here's a because i know downtown might be a little bit different where ours is more the benefit of the resident or who signed up for swim lessons who doesn't live in the town of riverhead we don't do non-resident guest passes at the moment but you sign up for our program you have to be able to park there so we give these big pink placards put in your window and that's just a lot of traffic into our office for like i'm having a party i'm doing this i'm you know and it's just so many things that i know code and the police they're like we have a key for how do you know what to ticket and whatnot um so my question kind of would be too if this is going to be prepared for maybe january or whatever we typically have to prepare and order our stickers in October November so is it like a we have the perfect digital system now which still do stickers okay because that's when you're gonna that's what you're gonna find the problems that you're indicating and sometimes stickers let's be honest if you're doing a ten-person gathering how are you gonna get this people to go into a database and digitally apply in that time that it takes it could be quick and a hang tag in that case could be easier. There's no doubt about it. I'd say maybe there was like a transition year of there's stickers and there's the digital. Exactly. Because then we have the situation of you bought a parking permit and now you're like, you know, I want to drive on the beach. Would there be a feature there where, so if someone brings back their parking sticker we can upgrade it with a fee because it includes both. Can this person go on digitally and just add on 4x4 with their proper documentation and all that instead of being like nope you have to reissue another one and so there's a lot of stuff and then if they're doing it online we have to check residency versus whether it be GIS or or yeah if they live within you know the parameters of the thing we have to check their registrations and their proof of residency if they want to drive on the beach we need their insurance so it's kind of like you can't buy it without us approving it and approving 10,000 of them there's a lot and we should be realistic about that yeah and we should have conversation can that be an online forum that you know you do it you do it for how much we have a lot of traffic like like councilman Rothwell so we have a high senior population here many people and some people just let it's part of their thing they want to come in and get their sticker that's that's their thing we have all online permitting right now you can buy it online you upload your stuff we have staff in our office that is looking at okay I'll checked it oh that's not correct or sorry you don't live here or so it's a big manual process in other words the information comes in including the license and registration that stays up in the cloud until such time you are proven okay so they'd have to upload it Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it never becomes live because it's not a digital pass, but then we approve it, we ask for the money, they pay, and then they choose. Do they want us to mail it to them? Are they going to come pick it up? What about the people from Flanders that are in the 11901 Riverhead zip code? How would the program be able to know whether or not they are actually the town of Riverhead or the town of Southampton? with them having our zip code. This conversation is now going really to permitting, and the enforcement aspect of it, if somebody, it doesn't matter where they live, is having a parking infraction, they're ticketed accordingly. So that's all the manual on our side. This is what we're talking about, the complications of 10,000 permits and uploading documents and an older population that may not upload any documents. Is that what I'm hearing? Yeah, or they come in person to do it, and then we don't upload it. We just do it manually, which is all the beach permits. What percentage of 10,000 are doing that? That I have to check on. Like off of, if I just went off saying the seniors, and I don't want to classify the non-seniors, it's kind of, we have about 45, as of last year, about 4,500 parking residents that's non-seniors and 4,600 parking seniors. So it's kind of split. Not saying all the seniors don't do it online, because they do too, but some don't and that just includes about 9,000 in parking but then you add on someone has a boat trailer now they need a permit for which has a registration and license plate to park in the boat lot seniors versus non seniors and yep this system in your mind working adequately for you it's what Give me your pain points on this. I mean, it's been the best so far that we've tried, but every year we've tried. That's why this year our stickers are so late, because we thought we were going full with Yodel. And it works, but also doesn't. What's the pain point? What's the biggest pain point? I guess checking, doing it all manually. So the pain point is really staffing related to the amount of volume you have. Yeah, and the reporting and everything. And I'm not opposed to the stickers either because I think it is nice for, I'm sure, the police too. They can just be like, sticker, sticker, sticker, see it and whatnot. But then it's all the variables. The sticker is a problem with enforcement. I think it's all the variables that we face as far as it's not just parking. It's now you need to park, but you're having a party or now you're coming to this program. And, like, when we send the key, it's like this is pink, this is yellow, this is green, this is blue. But you can park on the street, but it doesn't go to the beach. So there's just so many that if this was included, you could say, oh, this person can be here because they're doing a swim lesson. And perhaps I didn't charge them on the back end to give the roster. Also, you're saying that it doesn't go live with this program until it gets approved, right? Any permit wouldn't go live until it's approved. So the way that it works now, there's beach attendance at the beach. So if someone decides on a beautiful Saturday that they want to go to the beach, they can go and get the beach sticker right there. I feel like for us and our stuff, it will take some transition time, but I want to catch it while it's here before you decide on the software because since I've been here for 11 years, we've sold beach stickers, no software, than probably four different ways because we try to make it work everything we manipulate to make it work for us it's it's town wide but we do have two different applications here we have this active downtown with these lots that could be a LPR day in and day out to keep this vibrant and then we have the town wide solution they are two different things but they also should be be accomplished with the same thing they really are two different things there too well alpr would be good for some of our larger beaches that have you know i mean what does iron pier how many spots does iron yeah so you know that again you're talking manually for somebody to get out and monitor that lot that's an exuberant amount of time and they do it now but you know the alpr i see the fixed alpr being the solution and the beaches because there's a boot there that's why said everything because the riverhead is so fast didn't you say something pings you know if if a car went so he so it's easier to go down if you're scanning a hundred cars you know you'll get pinged if that car doesn't belong there is that we are understanding that correctly

other questions right now manually when you have two hour parking and i'm going you know with a a non-integrated system, no apps. Within two hours, I have to go out and move my vehicle. So the idea was that when I'm attending a restaurant down there and I finish my dinner, I don't go for a stroll. I've got to move my car because of my two-hour time. When you're doing these hourly parking lots, whether it be two-hour or three-hour parking, and you set up an ad system, am I going to sit at the table and add more time? So now when it says it's a two-hour parking lot that I just simply pay for a two-hour parking lot, and now I can be there four hours, and just a reminder is going to come up on my editing features? Or are you saying, no, I want this lot to turn over, and you can tell people you can't end more time. I want you to remove your vehicle to make room for the next person to come in. The beauty of paid parking is that all of that rises on its own. If you want to eat dinner for four hours, you pay for four hours. You're in a lot that has no time limit. arguably the one we just made two hours wouldn't be two hours if it turned into a paid parking lot it would self-regulate itself somebody would say i'm done here you know but i want you to but i gotta look at the other side we made it two hours because we want the turnover so that somebody goes into a restaurant they eat and then they move their vehicle and another person comes to that same restaurant and eats. Now you have a situation, it's raining out, and I'm visiting a resident in the apartment building, and it's raining, so I go in that two-hour parking lot, and I stay there all day because I'm babysitting, whatever it may be, visiting, and I just, I add another hour, and I add another hour, and I add another hour. That's not helping the restaurants. That's, you know, that's not getting the turnover, or so those those two-hour spaces become tied up for longer period of time and certainly in like poor weather days and other circumstances same thing seniors this will be you know the goal is do we want to turn over spaces so that there's there's always an availability or are we looking to collect money and and and people it but then that those spaces get tied up and that becomes problematic for our restaurant owners I just say I think that's policy we decide where we want some lots to have time but I don't know where others you can keep plugging in and paying more but I think I we there really needs to be a far more in-depth study on that stuff towards what you're looking to do because then my next question is is what's the time frame on this so when you know when is the committee who is you know ultimately it's of course it's a town board but what's the time frame what we thinking about I mean right now studies in 2020 said the time frame was now. I look upon my services for you to be an action person, an action company. We want this to be 2027. That's why we're doing some of the things we're doing, being sensitive to exactly what you're saying, and that'll come out more next week. The big lot you have, for example, look at lot 4 and lot 2, where Gary's is, where you have multiple uses of that lot. For example, the spaces that are against the trees could be, because we haven't even talked about this, employees, where employees are going to park, and are employees going to want to pay to park? I don't know. Exactly. So there will be policies in not only lots, but there will be policies within the lots. But I'd like to know, and I know that you're working very hard on this, but I really need to understand what restrictions, what you're putting on things before, at some point, deciding whether or not to implement. And one of the reasons why I foundationally took a step back and said, wait a minute, we must get this technology right, because you're absolutely right. You'll find three months from now, and this is just how parking is, you're going to want to change policy. That's why I'm not advocating for these big signs. I'm talking about riders that could be taken off in a day by anybody and put back on. That's why I want to digitally get this right so policies can be changed based on the feedback we get from everybody you're speaking about. It's not a once and set and forget. It's really not. The first step was enforcement. Let's see how we can use what we have. And once we get the enforcement and the data from the enforcement, then implementing the policies on the lot. And so, for instance, I think you can charge for certain lots and then have certain spaces free. So if you know you are going to stay at some place, you're going to try to go for the free space because you're not going to want to. And you can charge more for certain lots than others, I think. And that's going to encourage people to not sit there all day. I think we have a pretty good, I mean, I don't want to give you questions. Sorry, go ahead. Great questions. So, yeah, I'm just trying to, you know, understand. Yeah. But there's things, we're talking about prepaid parking, and I just think that this is something further down the road. My concern right now, that is the immediate resolution to some of the issues down there. There is limitations on parking for the restaurants where the construction is going on. I think we should be addressing, you know, this town board needs to address Heidi Bear Way at certain points. It's a pretty wide corridor that goes in and out. We should be adding, you know, at least temporary during the construction process. I think that portions of that should be striped and spots should be added to assist the residents and the restaurants downtown because they've lost a lot of spaces. and that becomes a decision factor when people are going to go to that restaurant you know and to decide whether to make the walk or not make the walk and we do have the ability to add spaces in this town so the question is you know I really think that we we need to look at the map right now and try to I was down there this morning and you know the construction is gonna be starting in a town square there were there's like 20 spots in there that once he starts you're gonna lose that again and we cannot stifle businesses during this I don't think this is a time that for paid parking other maybe I'm wrong maybe is but that's why I want to understand what the restrictions are in each particular lot and everywhere to see how beneficial it is but I would ask that the parking committee look for immediate resolve towards like Heidi fairway start striking add additional spots down there there is and it just could be done construction that these are going to be these are going to be utilized for for one year or two years and then you know eventually the one when these the lots fully open up you know and the spaces are restored that we do that but I think we do need to implement something right now and get additional spaces and availability I think that's a great idea because to your point the road width is there and I'm not in charge for parking down there You know, they can park parallel against the river because there's no obstructions. There's no roads going to the river. And except where you pull out of other parking, you know, lots to get to Heidi Bear Way, you know, I wouldn't, you know, I would look to stripe it that way. Because we're really not at a time where, you know, I understand we've got a collision. We want the restaurants to succeed. Paid parking. I think we're like, you know, we're a little bit far away from that with all the construction. I don't want to plan the future and kill the now, right? What are you doing right now? No, I understand. And I like the behind moon fish, the two-hour parking. But I'll tell you, I had a meeting last night in a restaurant downtown. It was over two and a half hours. and I don't want to sit there and go, oh, shit, I've got to go move my car, and then I'm looking to find this bus. There's a female by themselves going up there. I don't like that idea. And to your point, and the other thing that I think we need to look at is the hours when it becomes seasonal, because in the wintertime it gets darker, so I think we've got to take that, whatever it is, from 11 down to whatever, but you're saying we can do that, which is fantastic, but I'm really sorry, but I have to run. It sounds like we have a lot of questions more. Do you have a lot of other things to work on? Just briefly, though, because I think the residents and store owners and things that are watching a discussion like that and that I feel we are not necessarily ready for this and that this town board needs to do immediate action to provide additional spaces downtown, additional parking, and stripe different areas and really move in on, you know, the construction that's taking place. They expanded right out onto the parking lot for the apartment building down there, Heatherwood, and that was detrimental to the business next door. So I really think we need to focus on that, some immediate release. And that's what we are doing because the enforcement is necessary for that. The enforcement is necessary for the businesses. As I was trying to say, I think we have a lot that you have to chew on and come back to us next week about. I agree with councilman Rothwell. We need to look at the immediate for what's happening down there Thankful for this conversation happening. This has to be a continued conversation with the five of us. So with that, thank you for coming in First a quick statement. I hope you have recognized. I've really taken a measured approach on all of this I'm very sensitive to businesses being an entrepreneur since I'm 11 years old. I Would say that next week should be followed up with at least two more meetings after that. Thank you We're going to end our open session. We're going to move right into executive session where we're going to go into personnel, matter surrounding change of the status of an employee with Halpin and Triple Tio, contractual, matter surrounding contractual agreement with an employee, with our IT department leadership and Don Thomas, matter surrounding agreement between the town of Riverhead and Riverhead Central School District with Counselor Howard, matter surrounding agreement for document and electronic scanning with Diapola Thomas and Kramer matter surrounding this disposition of real property with halpin current Thomas and falta nuci matter surrounding acquisition of real property with councilman current councilman Rothwell and counselor Howard and also matter surrounding acquisition of real property with councilman wasky Daniel Hurley and litigation matter surrounding litigation tender and matter surrounding litigation with traditional links all with Tannenberg, Levinsky, Brown, and Howard. May I have a motion to... In terms of timing right now, are we going into a meeting executive session, or is this board leaving the room? So we're going to close, go to the press conference, and then come back to our executive session. But I think that really should have been shared with all the members of the board that have commitments and so forth, that, like, what is the timing schedule? You've added a large number of items on here, And then as we're going into executive session, we're exiting the building. So if you'd like, well, that's literally what I was going to explain right now. If you'd like me to cut things from executive session, I will. So in just a second, I'll ask for those matters to go into first and second. If we'd like to table some of those matters until next week, I'm willing to do so because we have been asked by a senator to come and to be part of something to continue to get clean water as we have with each and everybody else to the people. have to do that now or can we do that when we get back what's that we cut some of this and put it to next well I believe it would we get them in the general letter we can amend the agenda now just want to be wanted to do it later because the press conference is in like 13 minutes that okay with you It's at EpCal? I know. Where are we going? It's at Erb. At Erb. Kind of curve fire. Yeah. Sure. Okay. So may I have a motion to adjourn? So moved. Second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? You didn't answer. What? Aye. You didn't answer. Okay.

Thank you.