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Thank you. Good evening, everyone. This is the advertised time and place for the Thursday, October 1st, 2026, Planning Board meeting. Please join the board in standing for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you very much. We have no public hearings tonight, but before we get into discussion items, I told the community last meeting that I'd give them an update on Summerwind. The stop work order is still in effect. They're negotiating with the applicant and apparently they removed a piece of equipment off there which the town has, the Department of Law has the video of it. There was no work done, just the removal of a piece of equipment. And that's about it. We'll keep you notified. Let's go right into discussion items. one R.D. Pillsgrove LLC formerly known as Reverend Vesalius Kapalis Remedial Subdivision, Matt Chardis. You guys want to come on up? The team from Young and Young? The A team. Remember you guys want to sit on the spot? Do you want to get one on each side? I'll pull this over. You gentlemen can just introduce yourselves for the record before I get started. Did the applicant come in? Tom Wolpert, Young Associates. Doug Adams, Young Associates. I believe the applicant is on his way. Just to give everyone a primer, this is a discussion of a major subdivision application. This was formerly known as Vasilios-Gomsalis, which was originally approved by Resolution 91 of 2008 for 12 clustered residential lots, which contained areas ranging from about 30,000 square feet to just under three acres with one agricultural lot that was just over 16 acres with a building area within it and a recharge basin in a just under 36 acre parcel. If everyone's familiar, this is at 3554 Sound Avenue, just to the east of Dolphin Way. This is the new map that we've received because there's a new ownership of the parcel. So what we're seeing here is the agricultural lot new road that'll come off of dolphin way recharge basin and the clustered lots and then there's also an easement area to preserve the existing woodlands because within the zone there's a clearing requirement of no more than 53 percent of existing woodlands as well as a buffer that goes along the east side of the property i'll update everyone except for mr bayer because he was on the board when this was originally approved um sorry west side of the property that's correct tom So just going through the history, we've been meeting with the applicant since over the summer just on how to work up, sort of pick up this application from where they left off, which kind of is impossible, but I think we have a good recommendation of where to start. So back in 2006, the planning board approved a yield map for 13 lots on this property and a preferred sketch, which is essentially what you see here, more or less. In 2007, the board granted preliminary approval and adopted the neck deck after doing coordinated review. And then by Resolution 91 of 2008, final conditional approval was issued. The Planning Board did issue two extensions of that approval in 2009, but this was at a time before New York State's town law changed where you were at that time restricted to only two extensions. After two, you were done. You had to start over. the law in that regard is it's changed so it's at the planning board's discretion to grant 90 day extensions as they see fit so you could yeah maybe not for this project but another project it's at a board's discretion you know because sometimes as you know projects get stuck at the health department they make it through our process very quickly but the health department does not move quickly always so from our perspective our recommendation is for this to start back a preliminary so a new preliminary fee uh and new preliminary review the facts on the ground haven't changed tremendously yes we've got some more development in the area so i don't know if you can see on my key map here rona court uh and louise court were not built out at the time this was originally reviewed dolphin way was uh so there was two public hearings actually on this in in 2007 a lot of the neighbors from dolphin way came out so i just i'm sure people would like to participate again you know we've done a new cop plan but the zoning has remained the same our our preservation goals have remained the same so we're still looking for 70 percent preservation with 30 percent left for development but the way we enforced it became more strict in 2009 so in times gone by i'd say it was a little bit easier to go below that 70 percent now the board requires findings as to really why you're going under um do you need any relief from the zoning board of appeals no relief from the zoning board uh in terms of secret uh as lead agency you know boards do have the ability to either amend or or rescind negdex because this did receive a negative declaration but that has to happen before final approval is issued so that that threshold is passed so the best case for this would be to come back we would have to do coordinated review because this is actually a type one action which i think it probably was at the the time because you're exceeding it's a 25% threshold of any other it's a specific 25% threshold of any action on the list when it's in an AG zone in an AG area so this is within

the whole parcel is so the 25% threshold in this case would be well 12 lots so they're at because they're doing 13 it bumps them up to a type one have to do mandatory coordinated OVL how you doing? good how are you? good. I'm sorry what's your name? Rick. Rick how are you? alright gentlemen okay just to pick up some just at first glance some mapping stuff that I picked up so this the map indicates a 61.1 percent of the parcel be preserved either in the act parcel or an open space uh with 88 of the primax soils uh preserved our code is unique it does say 70 of land area or 70 of soils obviously you know as this board has enacted typically uh we're trying to get to the 70 land area i know that's going to be a little bit of a challenge with this layout but i do think there's an ability to get closer uh i I just want to clearly identify the bluff area that's been subtracted from the yield, which on the map is right up here. Remove any of the old code sections which are still on here, references Chapter 108, which has been gone since 2006. Updated locations regarding the location of the top of bluff and the clearing limits. I know to achieve the open space numbers, they are proposing some buffers along the west side. I just have some questions on the buffer on Lot 12. I want to make sure there's actually trees there. can't really buffer with nothing in it. They did provide dimensional regs, which we'll have to go through as we go through the process, and this will have to now conform to the Long Island Workforce Housing Act. So my recommendation is to have them start a preliminary, new fee, new secret, get going, schedule a public hearing when the time is right, and process the application. Matt, real quick, the 13th lot is the building area on the agricultural? That is correct, which is here. It shows about 16,000. Now, the 13th lot is the ag lot, the whole lot. The ag lot, but the – But if you eliminate that, then you won't have to – you don't need the workforce – If it's a reduced density plan below their maximum waterable yield, they do not – that gets you out of the Long Island Workforce Housing Act. The ag lot will stay, but the – Or we lose a lot because of the Workforce Housing Act, which either way may get us to 12,000. We'll look at that. Any other questions? Yeah, I have a question. If we reduce, do a voluntary reduced yield map, can we get away from the type 1 action? I'll look at it closely, but I think so. We would still probably coordinate anyway, so it's going to be the same process. We coordinated the first time, so that's what I think we should do. but the threshold was 12.5 and we're at 13 so I think if you're under you're under if you eliminated that that one building area in a lot 13 would that help on the 61% yeah because that's that's taken out now correct the 16,000 It is, but I don't know that, yeah. It's not going to be much. I don't know. Or a lot 12 on here. Yeah. Because an agricultural lot often, if it's from a building lot too. Well, you'll still be able to build structures and farm buildings that just wouldn't have a housing. But sometimes that's good to have. That's good. Yeah. for them yeah so when I looked at the open space calculations yeah 70% so provided provided I think it shows us 60 yep so top you might say required yeah I think it says require I can't you can zoom in there Justin where my finger is provided open space 21.470 acres or 61.8%. So that's the land area 61%, but then the soil area is 88. And an updated bluff would change the denominator of that calculation possibly making it still higher still if it's a different bluff. Now the recharge basin is not considered open space. It's not. I wish it was, but it's not. It's got a use, unfortunately. I'm living in it. Some people do live in it. I asked you the question before, and that was on the three lots in the beginning, one, two, and three. Since their lot lines go all the way. Correct. So these do go all the way to the. . . Oh, you calculate them as open space. So the hashed areas, the open space, this will be all protected by an easement. And then I believe starting on lot four and going down, that's where the buffers begin. So you can do that towards your open space calculation. It can be something deed restricted. We're counting on that, right? Yeah. Now, Matt, is that taxed differently because it's considered open space? I'm not the tax man, so I do not know. They try to tax everything. The bird might be listening. I don't know. part of the lot you mean yeah if it's part of the lot because you're leaving it as open space you can't do anything with it if you have a single family residential lot it's going to be taxed as a single family based on the square footage of the house and the improvements correct yeah it's not going to oh okay it's probably not if there's a media restriction on there they probably consider that when they're you're not going to reduce the development yield on it really much so Okay, I guess the applicant has to make a decision which way he wants to go and get it in the process. Yeah, and if the board's comfortable, we'll move forward the way I laid it out. Good? Okay. Good luck. Thank you. Okay, moving right along. Public comments on all resolutions? No takers. Let's do resolutions, gentlemen. All right, I'll move resolutions. 2026-062. Agreed. Rock Golf Course on the improvements granting administrative site plan approval for the site plan application. So moved. Second. Moved and second. Mr. Zanicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. Manero. Yes. Mr. Baer. Yes. And I vote aye to motion. Carries. At this time, public comments on all matters. No takers. Minutes of the meeting, gentlemen. I don't have any. Yes, Mr. Thurman. September 3rd. Minutes to the board. I'm sorry. Move. Second. Okay, move to second. Mr. Zanicki. Yes. Mr. Hogan. Yes. Mr. Nenegro. Aye. Mr. Baer. Abstain. And I vote yes to minutes carry. No secret actions tonight. Other business, employees, staff, no. No correspondence. Okay, our next meeting date is going to be Thursday. Thursday, October 15th, 3 o'clock right here in this meeting hall. Anything else, gentlemen? No. Stay up here. Everybody's good? Matt's good? All good. Okay. Motion to close. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Motion carries. Have a great weekend, everybody.

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