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Thank you. Thank you. And Denise Savletti, would you mind leading us in the Pledge of Allegiance? Not at all. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Denise.

Okay, a couple brief announcements. Just a reminder that the 2024 spring and summer registration for the Rivet Recreation Department is now open. Residents can register online via the new online registration portal, in person or over the telephone. And please be reminded that the Recreation Department has just moved to this building at 4 West 2nd Street. They are on the second floor here. So to get your beach passes or register for any of the programs, make sure you come here and not to Stotsky Park because nobody's there anymore. Number two. Next, I am pleased to announce... I am pleased to announce a date for the 2024 State of the Town Address that has been set and will take place Tuesday, April 9th at 11 a.m. right here in the Town Boardroom. The event will also be live streamed. A press release will be forthcoming today from my office. And Councilman Waski, just a reminder again for a great parade coming up. Fantastic day, March 30th, 1 o'clock in the afternoon. The James Port Parade hosted by the East End. Emerald Society. We hope that everybody can come out and join us. Absolutely. Thank you, Supervisor. I just want to remind everybody that you now can do paperless billing with the Water Department. I would strongly urge that you do that. Thank you. Okay. All right. We're going to go to our open session. First matter up is Police Matters surrounding a monthly report. That will be Chief Hagemiller. Chief? Good morning. Good morning. Good morning, Chief. Really? Okay, I want you to have February's report for 24. We mailed it out. Things look okay. Calls received were down. Domestic incidents were up by a large number. Motor vehicle accidents were down. Gear strikes, Mr. Kern, were way down. Only four in February. They were all on vacation in Florida. They were in Florida for vacation. The summonses issue is about the same. Arraignments are up. Charges are up. Of course, arrests are up. Criminal incidents are also up slightly. Actually down from January, but up compared to 23. Non-criminal incidents are down. Revenues are up. That depends on billing for alarms, as I always say. And the last page is arrest by section. Just to show you which sectors are. The arrests are occurring in. So, and as always, 601 leads the path. Best sector to work. Best sector to work. And I totally agree. And no fatal overdoses? Oh, good. Very good. And there was three uses of Narcan. Actually, six uses of Narcan on three subjects. And I think that's about it. We did receive a quote on Phase 6 of the

! I think we're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. We're done. Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? can do. I'll send you the quote. Chief, can I ask you, I mentioned the other night about the drug recognition officers. Do we have anybody scheduled? Yeah, so we have a class coming up that we just got notified about, so we put out a list and there are some people that would like to go get the DRE certification. Good, very good. Chief, I would just like you to know that yesterday I met with the beach committee and they asked me to thank you and your department, your patrol officers, for all that they've been doing. The residents have been seeing them on patrol, looking after the beaches, and they asked me several times, they said, please tell you what a great job everybody's doing, and to relay that at Reeves Beach, the gazebo has been finished. Oh yeah, reopened? Okay. And sunset is around seven and it's been packed, so if you could just send somebody around that time, they would really appreciate it, but they really had such nice things to say and it's really nice to hear positive things. Yeah, so for sure, thank you. I actually ran into the chairman last night at the fire chief's meeting. Okay. And I got their minutes and their drive on the beach safely rules, so yeah, we're good to go. I love that committee, by the way. That was... That was one of my favorite committees. It's the only committee I'm not on. We can fix that. We can fix that for sure. Could we change? Could we make a deal, change some committees? Nope. You're welcome to the beach committee anytime you'd like to attend. I know. Thank you. Good. Thank you, Chief. Appreciate it. Thank you. Have a good day. You too. Next up is Justice Court, matters surrounding the monthly report with Howard and Siru. Good morning. Good morning, Councilor. How are you? Good. Okay. I'm going to start off with a disclaimer about February. So the Justice Court for parking, they were closed Monday, the... whatever the first and second Monday was Lincoln's birthday and then President's Day. Mm-hmm. So we didn't have a parking calendar, so that's why the numbers are going to be slightly dipped. Also, February 13th... which is usually a town code day, there was a snowstorm. And then February 20th, I was at Association of Towns. So we really only met in the Justice Court for the month of February two times. So March will be a little bit more robust. Mm-hmm. So with that, the neighborhood preservation, we got four convictions, fire marshal two convictions, quality of life eight convictions. You see in your paper, it'll say January. So my mistake. It should say February. It should be the third paragraph down. Okay. So we took in $3,400 for people that came into court, pled guilty, paid a fine. $2,000 was a default judgment on a fire marshal matter. And $200 for preservation. So that gave us a total of $5,600. I think there may be a typo in there. So it should be $5,600. Okay. Okay. Litigation. We set down four trials for the month of March for the upcoming month. And incarceration, we got one 15-day jail sentence. Warrants that were granted upon my request were seven. And that brings the, if you add that to Chief Peg Miller's active warrants, it should be around 130. So that's all I have. I do have an inquiry from the Justice Court about the presence of public bathrooms. We've had a huge uptake. We've had a huge uptake in public urination. So the Justice Court had asked me to ask the board if those public bathrooms were going to be reopened. The one on Heidi Bear Way and the one in front of Grandville Park. Yes, they will. They're seasonal because you don't want the pipes freezing up over the winter. Okay. So I would imagine probably by next month they should be up again. So that's all I have. If anyone has any questions for me. We, um, for the... For the quality of life issues that we had passed and we made mandatory fines, we like, we have an outlook on how they're breaking down into different categories to what they can be used for. So you mean the public urination, the open alcohols? Yeah, we separated all of them into different categories. So like some money would go to parks, some money would go to veterans, you know, based on convictions. As far as I know, it's just going into the Justice Court fund, but I can inquire, see. See what else they're doing with it. Yeah. Okay. There was like mandatory additional fines. The surcharges? The surcharges on everything. Yeah, I haven't seen that. And we want to break them down into categories and make sure we're collecting them. Sure. I'll look into that. Thanks. And just for the public, this is just town codes we're talking about. This isn't all the other cases, criminal and vehicle and traffic law and such that go before the court. So these are just town code issues. Right. Okay. Ms. Shrew, are you finding that the courts are imposing the minimum sentences? I always make a record when I ask for the minimum sentence. Judges tend to sometimes go below the minimum sentence, and all I can really do at this point is make a record of it. I know you had expressed your concern for that. Right. So for the month of March, you'll see now I'm writing down, I asked for minimum fine. Judge issued X amount of dollars. So it'll be more specifically tracked for the month of March. All right. Thank you. Yes. Thank you. Good. That's good that you're doing that. Can you tell me what COBPs and RPs are? Certificate of occupancy, building permit, and rental permit. Sorry. No, that's okay. That makes perfect sense. Thank you. Any other questions? Well, thank you. Great. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. Thanks.

Okay. Next up, we have code enforcement, matters surrounding the monthly report, and we have investigator Downs. Good morning. Senior investigator Downs. Yeah. Yeah. Good morning. Get the title right. I'm trying. I'm trying. How's everybody doing? Good. How are you? Very good. Very good. Good. All right. We'll jump right into it, I guess. Everybody have the report in front of them? Mm-hmm. Okay. So code enforcement. We opened up 32 new complaint. We have eight investigations for the month. We're on track to exceed 500 complaints for the year. That'd be up from last year. We had about 380 last year, so we're above the numbers on that. We have three pending confidential investigations relating to overcrowded houses and one for noise. We've issued 79 summonses for the month. The ticketable infractions include... And I listed them there. No COs, no building permits, no electrical permits, no material importation permits, property maintenance violations. Those would be violations of the New York State Property Maintenance Code. No rental permits, unregistered vehicles. We had 12 unlawful signs, noncompliant exterior lighting, farm stand review, commercial site plan violations. We had eight. Two zoning use violations. We had three violations. And parking in the front yard areas, we had three. In addition, we had the New York State Fire and Building Code infractions, which were four. As you know, we continue to kind of triage our complaints. We take the life safety complaints first. We go over those first as opposed to the litter and unregistered vehicles and things of that matter. We do get to all complaints. It's just that we do triage the life safety ones first. 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So you'll be renewing rental permits all year long? Yes. You get a three-month registration as soon as you apply. That three-month runs into the yearly permit. So it's a year permit as you apply. So it goes from that date as you apply, one year. And then it expires. Right. Okay. Yeah. We've inspected 185 rental properties for this month, including three large-scale apartment complexes. We did River Point and Fairfield. So that totals all roughly about 585 rental units inspected since January 1st. And Mr. Downs, could you... No, that's just for the month. Oh, just for the month? Yeah, that's for the month. That's two officers going. How are you doing about getting into each one? We get into the rental properties pretty much no problem. It's the overcrowded houses that we sometimes have issues getting in. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt, but Mr. Downs, could you just remind the public that you're going to be renting out the property? Yes. Okay. Are the rental agreements what they are? That some people may think that they can rent their homes as Airbnbs in this town? Yeah. So there's a law that you can't rent your house for under 29 days. Right. So if you are renting a house for under 29 days, that's a prohibited use. So anything over 29 days, of course, you can get a rental permit for. Thank you. You're welcome. Personnel and staffing. We hired a new full-time code officer, and he will be starting April 1st. His name is Kyle DeRosa. I think we approved the resolution through the board meeting. He's going to be training for a month. I got him with all four officers, starting off with Hernan. He's working his way through. He's going to go to Ivan and then Nicole and get a month training and hopefully can hit the ground running. Good. Very nice guy. We have two positions, of course, to replace due to resignations. One is a full-time code officer because George left for Southampton. As you know, we have to fill that position, and we're also probably close to interviewing for the full-time clerical position. Good. We need to get that filled. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah, the phones keep ringing, and we only have a part-time person in there. Is the elephant in the room? The vehicles. So I just wanted the board to know that we are going to need at least one vehicle by the end of the year. We're just running on those old Crown Vics and their mileage is... I think you're going to need one before the end of the year. To be honest, I've heard a couple of them start up out there. The money's already been allocated to the budget for it, so you just got to wait. Yes, I met with Bill Rothar yesterday. Oh, you did? Okay. All right. It's all underway. All right, great. OpenGov update. I know we touched base a little bit with OpenGov last session. We're looking to go live. We hit a couple of snags with respect to the data transfer. I still believe in the platform. I think it's a great platform. It's going to be great for the public to interact. I think that we're working out the kinks. I think Councilman Kern has been working with IT, and I think we're close to getting it up and running, I think, at this point. Well, it's important to do it right because you don't want to run it and then run into these problems. You want to know ahead of time and iron them out and get it up. So if it takes a little longer, it takes a little longer. But we want to get it right. Yes, at the end of the day, I think it's going to be a great platform for the public for rental permits just to interact and apply. The ability just to apply online as opposed to coming into the office and submitting the check and filling out the application. It's just very interactive. Good. And, yeah, that's all I got. Any questions? No, I just want to point out that on the first page here, it says, code enforcement has three pending confidential investigations relating to over-the-counter and over-the-counter fraud at houses. That's a lot, not meaning that there's a lot out there. We know that. Yeah. But the intensity and the time requirements to do these investigations, to have three going on at the same time is a good amount. Yes. So, you know, there's a lot more to do. Yeah. But the people need to understand what goes into forming a case for these require a lot of time and effort and manpower. So I'm glad to hear that we have three active ones. Yes. And hopefully, those will go to Supreme Court. Mm-hmm. If it was successful. Perfect. All right. Very good. All right. Thank you so much. Thanks very much. Thank you. Take care. All right. Next up, for something that I'm very interested in, we have Mark Lembo and Steve Lascuadro. Matt is surrounded in a possible RV park in Calverton. Come on up, gentlemen. And we have Eric Howard and Dawn Thomas for this. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. How are you, folks? Good. Doing well. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for having us. Thanks for coming in. Appreciate it. Want to just announce your names for the live TV at home? Steven Lascuadro. And I am the attorney working with Mark Lembo. And I'm representing Mark on this project that he proposes that we think is very good and attractive use. And hopefully, you may feel the same way. But we're here to talk about that. Mm-hmm. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And of course, Mark. Mark Lembo from Waiting River. We've been trying to propose this for a long time. It's been in the works for probably about a decade. And I think now the time is right, because the town is looking to do a lot more recreational facilities at the EPCOW site, which is, me as an environmentalist, I'm very happy to see that. And we're here to discuss whatever you like. Well. All right. Cool. I do have an RV, and I know myself and many fellow RVers have issues with getting spots on Long Island. We have, of course, we have the state park up in Wildwood. We have county parks. But if you're not on the website January 1st to get a reservation for the key months and key times, you're going to be camping in your driveway because there's just no availability. They fill right up. And with gas prices being what they are, people on Long Island don't necessarily want to travel any further than they need to to go on a vacation. And EPCAL, to me, is the ideal area. It's a beautiful, beautiful piece of property. And to be able to put an RV park up there, which minimally disturbs the environment, is just an absolute home run. So I was so glad when the gentleman approached us about this and said, let's get this up on the public and let's start talking about it. Well, just maybe just a little bit of an overview. I've known Mark for many years. We're both from Wading River. Both still live in the same school district. And people know Mark from the community because this was his brainchild. We have to say he's thought about this and he's advocated for this for quite some time. And Mark was the school board president in Shoreham-Wading River. Always a very well-known environmentalist and environmental advocate in the community. So Mark had come to me and said, you know, I've thought for such a long time about bringing forward an RV park. Because he said, I see that the town is trying to shift away from uses that may be considered more intense, industrial, commercial uses. Not that they're not important for our town. They're not important for our tax base. But you have to have that balance so you're limiting impacts on the community. And he said, this use here in Eftal would conform with zoning. And he says, I think it would really be fitting and in keeping with what I see as the town's vision moving forward to promote agro-tourism, recreational uses, making the town more of a tourist destination. Which I think we see happening in any event. I think we see it happening in any event. I think we see it happening in any event. And I think that's a very good thing. That's good for local residents. It's good for the economy. It's a good, wholesome use, if you will. And so he thinks this would be very much in fitting. And then, Supervisor, to your point, we all know, those who either know about RV parks or RVing, if you will, and engaging in that use and using that for vacation or other recreational uses, that there's such a demand. And the demand can't be satisfied. And then you find that local... And then you find that local residents are going out of state or upstate or beyond. So they're going to the Poconos or they're going to southern New Jersey. And why couldn't that be captured here? Again, in a low impact, very wholesome, very attractive, and perhaps even, if you would say, a very fun way that people can spend time in the local area. Not to mention that other people, perhaps, from western Long Island might come here. Which benefits? It's the local economy. And I think the final point that Mark said was I think he thinks there's a real synergy with... You have Splish Splash. You have the water park. You have the vineyards. You have sound beaches. 10 minutes, perhaps, to the north or ocean beaches. 15 to 20 minutes to the south. And all of that would mesh very well with this use. So I thought that it made a lot of sense. I'm excited to work with him on it. And since he has identified an area that works... That conforms with zoning. The thought then would be that this could be a very good match with the town. And that the town could benefit from that. Because then the town could lease the property. Retaining ownership, which we think would be important. And then the town could oversee how this is built out, if you will. Not just pursuant to zoning and going through a proper land use process. But also conforming to a lease that would be negotiated by the town attorney. And then, of course, subject to approval by the town itself. That's the vision that's presented for this. And we hope that you think it's attractive as Mark and I do. It is. And the location is so important. Because you've got the hockey rink. You've got Veterans Park. You've got the dog park. You've got the pickleball court. You've got the softball field. You've got the... The bike trails. The bike trail is important. Yes. The bike trail is a huge, huge... It's used all the time up there. And then the fishing. And Scott's Point Park. Absolutely. And the river. It's just the perfect location. And it's much needed. And I will say that in my camping experiences, campers and RVers are generally very friendly to the environment. They'll be quick to tell a neighbor if they see a neighbor at a site doing something that maybe they shouldn't do. Campers are very good about taking care of that. They're very good about taking care of the properties and the ground. So it's a good thing. To me, it's a win-win. I'm very excited. Yeah. And I'll just add, too, that to give the town incentive, too, is to have a certain percentage of the slots reserved for town of Riverhead residents. So that when you do go on the site and everything's taken up very quickly, at least you know that there are a certain amount that are going to be done. That are going to be there for the town. Excellent idea. Yeah. And I see this, too, more of not a seasonal RV park, but all seasons. With the hockey rink, if we're going to have any type of tournaments or anything in the wintertime. But also, just across the street, you have miles and miles of hunting trails that the DEC, that you can use during the winter months. And there's people that come from Connecticut, New Jersey, all around to hunt here. So they'll have a place to slot in with the RV park. So it's not just going to be seasonal. And you have the Peconic River. We envision that the lake that we have, you'll be able to kayak. There'll be fish. But then you can also go very close where the Peconic Headwaters come through. And you could also then put your kayak in and also fish. So there's such that, like you said, there's such the synergy. You have this done. And people that want to play golf, you have the public golf course. You have Swan Lake. Again, right across the street. So there's a lot more to do. And everyone, all of these researchers that I've done with all these up-to-date RV parks, now they're becoming very, very modernized. People are looking to do other things. They want to know the surrounding areas. Well, what do you have to offer? Do you have like, on and out of town? We have an aquarium. We have a lot of different shops. Whatever with the town. So again, I think this is a good idea. And I think if we can get together, I think we can do it. I use the word amenities a lot when I refer to the town. If you have the amenities, the people will come. And this is what we want. Because this supports all our local businesses and everything else. So, great idea. I got some questions. So we're in the middle of a $70,000 study. About a sports complex and its ideas up there. The RV park has been continuously mentioned to be a part of that study. So I think it's a great idea and I want to see it to fruition. I'll say that. I think we have to think very carefully about its location up there. So I'm just looking at this. Are you planning on creating a lake? Yes. And are you sand mining it out of there? Or how do you intend to build the lake? Well, the lake, the lake is going to have to, you're going to have to take the material out. Okay. So that's, I mean, one concern. And then also like, you know, we have been currently talking with the DEC and our environmental specialist for the town. But it seems like wherever we want to build something and do something, we have to balance it out someplace else. So meaning that if this was a giant grassy field and it's a great, you know, instead of a lake, it's a great place for the birds to go. But like where we give, we got to take someplace else within there. So I don't know if the town attorney can follow up on it. But, you know, we're looking at developing a home. We're looking at building a home. We're looking at building a home. And then also, you know, the other concern is that the property itself is going to be closer to the 7,000 foot runway in all those fields. And it seems like we're very limited towards what we can do. Because any place where we start to do development over there, we've got to provide another area someplace else on the property for the birds. So I'm just concerned about it's a large lake area. And so how do we plan on where are we going to lose development in other areas within the property itself, you know, for that lake? So it's a great idea. I mean, could it be essentially put around another, some of the preexisting lakes or areas that are within the property itself? Because if there are stakes in the space, there might be stakes in the space. boundaries already, you know, to still I think you're looking for, you know, maybe the Sporting aspect of being on the lake and kayaking and fresh water but I just think you've got to look at the whole site as a whole because I don't want to have like a massive area that Now that we've built the lake we've gonna have to give that land up someplace else in our development side of things So it just it's got to be a balance. I think we're gonna work closely with the DEC on that Yeah, I think that would be my point that those type of matters would be Would be worked on and worked out with the DEC because the DEC would have to sign off in any event So I think I think that point is very well taken councilman So we just need to know what are the actual cause and effects of it? So for a large scale I want to know if we're doing other things like on the other side over by the 7,000 foot runway and We're building potential soccer fields lacrosse fields and all these things Am I gonna not be able to do that because I've used up this land on the other side of the 10,000 foot runway Okay, it seems to be give and take correct. Well, that's Generally around the runway in the PIP. This is PRP I want to just look at the existing comp plan and what's coming with the new comp plan to see what the recommendations are To regarding preservation But also there's maximum clearing limits. I haven't specifically looked at this site But do you know if this is in? Barons Because there's maximum clearing requirements that are under code We'd have to see exactly where that where that's where this is cited exactly And then as you said conform that to the existing limits, okay? They were right now the extent of the DEC regulations are sort of limited to the grass lines around the runways So I don't know that there'd be any bird nesting issues depending on how close we're getting to the grass lines But even if he did an area in the center that maybe it's not a lake if it's grass in there could that essentially be used As a trade-off for other areas where we intend to develop Yeah, and that's a neck You know that definitely could be worked out that would that would be fine because you can still do within the grass areas It still could be usable for like walking trails and things like that and you could make it work But on a large scale like, you know, that's my concern is how much of that land are we gonna lose in other areas? I think the DCC is gonna say if you took all this out Guess what? You're giving it up someplace else. I wanted all the consequences of that Okay, and then you know, what are our what are our town rules and regulations about sand mining up there? Well, they'd have to get an excavation permit Yeah Well, they'd have to get a permit from the DC and then an excavation permit from us Yeah, of course we'd have to conform to all that and you know And we want to work with you guys to make sure that you know If we have to take in if we have to make some grass lines or whatever we have to make some grass lines or whatever we have to make some grass lines or whatever we have to make some grass lines have to do to conform we're willing to do that and this is not us saying well this is this is our proposal take it or leave it no it's it's we have to work together on this I think it's a great idea I just think we gotta look carefully at the site yeah and its placement I like the idea that you had buffers so that this is not going to be seen from the public just I think of I think of on 25 there somebody has that RV place that they sell it won't look anything like that you know where these trucks and you know these big RVs are just sticking out in the road I liked all the settings that you did you did a lot of barriers yeah inside yeah you have to have offers right we'd like to have it as you know rural of a place as possible and we're not looking to put it out you know onto a paper area and then we'll just you didn't just slot me in here ! just so the public understands right it's gonna be very nicely something like that exactly yeah I see landscape yeah so when you get into it if you look at where it's located you need to turn that page to the side so you can see it's right along the runway there but these gotta be like a thousand foot in between so there's there are buffers here so that this this is out here it's not even it's not even grassland is more kind of like a treat area so we tried to make that as best we could so that it is you know out of the public site you don't want to see it again from the roadway or anything of that nature and you'll have there's also to the if you go down to this the second second page is the map itself when you see it if you go if you go all the way to the east there is a paper road there Peconic Avenue okay and so you'll be able to access it from here from from Peconic Avenue itself and then you can see the The main road, of course, is Grumman Boulevard when you're coming off of Wading River Manor Road. So you'll also be able to, you know, use that to get in. So, again, it's got to be very picturesque. It's got to be very, you know, that's what we're looking to do. And we'll work with the town anywhere we want to do on that. And then, you know, we just looked at the paved ring road. We definitely need to have a sewer connection or a sanitary connection. Things of the past, you used to collect it and then dump it and put it in a pumping station. But now, in today's world with RV parks, you know, people, you know, this would be a direct sanitation. So if you look at the pad itself, that's past a couple of pages. And then so that's, you know, that's what you'll get into. And I'll have all of that. You know, I'll have a little picnic area. I have that to get done also. So, and we're not looking to put them that close together. All right? That's another thing. The town will only allow us up to 100 or 125. And that would be the, you know, we maybe don't even want to do a maximum of that. We want to be able to make it more, like we said, as a rural. And the last page just gives you something, you know, things we're going to do. You have to have a clubhouse. You have to have showers and, you know, and different, you know, different situations like that. You've got to have the, and also we're looking to maybe do some glamping, some park models like they have up at Wildwood. You have a few of those that may be able to fit into the mix instead of just, instead of all of the different slots. So, you know, that's another thing for us to look at. And we'll have comfort stations. And also we will have a pumping station in the event, God forbid, that something happens with the sewer connection. And you have to go manually and take the sanitation, you know, slot by slot. And we'll do that. So, you know, that's really it in a nutshell. We want to be able to, you know, work with the town even in the build out of it. And maybe get some input from maybe some community members of how they would like to see it built. You know, we're not. We don't have a, this, you know, this is the plan and we're not deviating. You know, we want to get the public involved with this because it's going to be, you know, we want to see the town of Riverhead residents use it the most. You know, it's great to have people come from all over, but you want to be able to have the town utilize, you know, utilize the site. And we have, you know, we have this perimeter that finally we have, you know, you have the bike trail and the walking trail. So people bike on that trail and walk on that trail. I've been on that trail myself. You know, people bring their strollers with their kids and, you know, they take their walks and whatever we have. Like you said, we have all of the other amenities, the ballpark. You have everything that we need. And for us, we'd like to fit this in and we'll fit it in, you know, conforming to what the town wants us to do. Yeah. Excuse me. So you just mentioned glamping. So does that mean that you would actually have units that people would be able to rent? To rent, maybe for, you know, same thing. I have a week or so. Oh, yeah. If you've ever been to Wildwood to see those cabins, they have Wi-Fi, they have air conditioning. They're, you know, I was thinking of maybe retiring in one of them. It was really beautiful. Do you want to show this last page on the screen for people to get the idea of what you're talking about? About the clubhouse and the glamping. What can I do? Right there, center. Right there. That's gorgeous. Okay. I'm not up on you on technology. There you go. Actually, the last two pages, yeah. Thank you, Justin. You may want to just flip the page. No, no, no. Look, Steve, so you can turn it so people can see. Oh, there we go. Look at that. Oh, there it is. The clubhouse and the glamping. That's great. It is. Well, I've done the research on all of the different RV parks around the country, and there are two or three or four companies. That come in and consult with you and show you what they want to do. And everyone always talks, well, you're going to have any type of a lake. What are you going to have surrounding the RV? This is what we have. We also have to have, you have to line it. You have to line the lake. You have to maintain the lake. And companies come and do that. This is what they look. But all of them have all of these different amenities. Do you have an area? Where people can bike? Do you have an area where they can kayak? And like we said before, what's in the surrounding area? So I think we're a home run when it comes to this. And we're really excited. Very excited. Very good. Go ahead. No, no, no. Go right ahead. I just, I don't want to surprise you, but we've been having talks prior to any of this in regards of increasing our fee for our sand removal. So I don't want to make it sound like we're doing this because of you. We've had ongoing talks about it. So we're in the process of reevaluating what we charge and what we could fairly charge. So I don't want to throw any surprises at you. No, that's fine. And that's in conformance with what a lot of people do. Because sand is like gold right now. Oh, yes. It's incredibly expensive. So. That conforms to what a lot of municipalities should do. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. You guys are pretty low on that. Operation of the facility would be done by? The operation of the facility will be done by a professional. You know, RV consultant company. They will be, they will come at the end. Basically, once we have the lake area finished, they will come in and we will consult with them along the way. But they will come in then and build the rest of it out. All right. Build out the slots. Put up all of the comfort stations. You know, the clubhouse, the showers. Also, there's going to be an outdoor camping site. You know, camping thing where you will have beat, tackle, fishing equipment, kayaks, you know, snacks, whatever, you know, whatever they, you know, what they do. So, that will be done at the end. That, you know, that then they would then at that point become, you would become the landlord. They would become the leasee of, you know, of the site. Of course, everyone's looking for, you know, a 30 to 50 year lease. Right. And that's what would happen. So, you guys would be, of course, every step of the way with us. They would come in along the way and as we progress and then at the end, we would basically give it to that, you know, to those, you know, to whoever we choose at that point. Right. So. Mark's research has shown that if you want this to reflect what's available at the very best places. Mm-hmm. That quite frankly, you wouldn't find necessarily on Long Island, but that you do see in other parts of the country. Yeah. That you work with the leading national operators because they're operating these type of facilities at a next level. And, and that's his vision that you would have, you'd work hand in hand with them because they would help you plan out the aesthetics, the materials, the layout in conformance with what they know to be best practices in the industry. Right. I think just structurally because it's an urban renewal area, whomever that entity is would have to be part of the initial application because we have to make a qualified and eligible sponsor determination for urban renewal law. And so, that company and you would make that application together and then they would go through a financial review by the board, as any other Cal Property Proposer would do, and then make a decision. the agreement would be with everybody before so it wouldn't be like the board would be selecting somebody after it'd be all up front okay and who would be responsible for connecting to the sewer we know we would you would yeah when we were you know of the site preparation of you know that's that would be us that's what I wanted to hear yeah yeah the town we're not going to be asking the town to pick that up of course so there really wouldn't be any cost to the town whatsoever so it's you know this is oh you know this is a private entity basically that's going to pay to from start to finish and that's what we're looking at maybe you could even have a shuttle service take people to the downtown well there is a there is they always have the didn't we have the trolley guy is he still around no it's long gone well that may come back into vision I also envision if you look at Connecticut Connecticut Avenue where across the street from point from where you have the the hunting guys do you have a track you have the railroad that runs through I was thinking to have any shuttle for people that wanted to put their kayak into the river there is a spot there right along the railroad so if we had a shuttle for people that wanted to go they have their kayaks they and they can get into the it ain't me getting to the iconic mm-hmm and you know and do that this is there's so many little things that we could do right it's just you know once you think of something and you think of something else so absolutely I'm very excited I thank you for coming in thank you for the time I'm sure we'll hear more about this in the future so yes yes sir so good stuff thank you again thank you appreciate all thank you yeah no I was gonna add you know I mean these these things are incredibly popular in other parts of the country Oh number one um this is a good location so the proximity to the sewer in the water this is a really good location it makes it I think more financially feasible mm-hmm love it call them NSA what do you think that if you if you started tomorrow how many years this is gonna take well you figure it takes about a year to get your permits always from the you know with the DEC being involved and they're probably going to take another two maybe two two and a half three years to build it before we turn the key so that's what you're looking at probably and we know that a big part of it's going to be permit driven you have to get through a site plan process right but you know our goal would be you know because again recognizing the need that the sooner we could agree with the town and there would be parameters of a lease that was acceptable to everyone we'd like to file that application immediately right any other questions no we're good okay good well thank you so much thank you really appreciate your time thank you Mark you would know that this but we're surrounded by thousand plus acres of parkland no we can't be federal oh and town yeah yeah this you know this Penn State now I've run through all those trails this this there's just you know ten hundreds of miles of trails that run all the way over everything around so again it's just this is this isn't really good it's just a great location yeah thank you These things are so popular in other places. And they're not going to look like the ones on the south. No, no. We never envisioned that. Looks like Queens. But you know why? You can't get a spot. No matter what it looks like, you still can't get a spot. Absolutely. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it. Thank you. And if I didn't congratulate everyone, congratulations on your new positions. Thank you. Thank you.

Okay, next up we have code revision. Matters surrounding change to chapter 301-3. Agritourism. We have Councilman Rothwell, Councilor Credenti, and Planner Matt Charters. Should I give you the bridge to Absinthe Senior Planner? Yes. Senior Planner. I'm learning. I'm learning the titles. Okay. Just to bring everybody up to speed, I think the last time we were here was January. We have gone back and made some changes to make things a little bit more clear in the Ag Tourism Code. I'll bring you through those now on the first page. Just before you go into the changes, we specifically met with the Agricultural Advisory Committee. I attended their meeting along with Councilman Rothwell. We also met with the Land Preservation Committee, which was with Councilwoman Joanne Waski. So there's been a lot of back and forths, most importantly through the farming community. Yes. And so that's what this whole legislation is geared for. Correct. And for the record, we have some of our esteemed farming community members out here. Thank you all for coming down. So just to take you through the changes, on the first page, we thought it was helpful. Our yield definition originally has always been in there. It was just a little bit more complicated. It's a little bit more complicated. The reason why we thought it was a little bit more complicated is because the land that we've already spent in there was just a little buried and not clear. So we added, this is going to be an added definition in 301.3, which is the actual yield for resort development in this overlay, which is going to be 1,500 square feet of floor area per project area. So your project area is the 100 acres. So it would be 1,500 square feet per each acre in that 100 acres. So that's 150,000 square feet of floor area. In the case that a property is preserved by, you know, deed of development rights, et cetera, you're not going to get any yield off of that preserved portion. But this code does allow you to preserve land offsite at the same rate to get the 1,500 square feet. With the purchase of, with transfer. Yeah, with the transfer of 2DRs. And the preserved land, I think one of the biggest questions at the beginning was that land that's already preserved doesn't count. Correct. That's correct. So that's where there's been a continuous misconception. Some people are thinking, well, oh, if you've already got 50 acres already preserved, then how are you helping in any way the front of the community? Because that's not being counted in the equation. You have to go someplace else within the town and buy TDRs, transfer development rights of 50 acres someplace else. And that's how you essentially get the full build out. Correct. And I know Richard Wines is here. And I know he questioned the calculation. And Matt can be available immediately after. Yeah, happy to speak to him. To run through that. Make it clear and illustrate how it would work on either pulpy, partial, whatever you want to do. And the TDRs come from farmers. Farmers, correct. Yeah. And then on page two, number seven, if you remember from the first draft, this had a very long list of what we were looking for in terms of crops, et cetera. We simplified this just to reference Ag and Markets Law, Article 25AA. It essentially says the same thing, but this is a reference to that section of Ag and Markets Law. And then moving on to page three. Just on number eight, Chuck, for a second. For the agricultural portion of the country, if there is a farm in the heart of the river, a thousand square feet, single story height, no graded in 25 feet. 25 feet seems low for a farm building or a barn. Is that inappropriate? We can consider it. I wouldn't have a problem with making that whatever the underlying zoning is. Yeah, 35. Yeah, I would consider that because I know if they're going to build a barn, they need some time to height for storage. We can make that 35. Side low. Yep. 35, Matt? 35. And then number 11 is an addition, which the farming community thought was very important. This is that the developer of the property, so that would be the developer of the resort, would be required to covenant that they're going to construct and then actually construct a well site on the property and then maintain that well site. If the board's not familiar, that is a very expensive endeavor for farmers, and it's expensive to maintain. So giving a prepped well site ready to farm. Correct. And then moving on to number 12, which is the top of the last page, this is the monetary penalty section, which is $1,000 per day for any period of time exceeding nine months that there's no agricultural production on the property. We understand that for portions of the year that the property will have to lie fallow, either in whole or in part, but we want to make sure that the preserved ag portion of this property is in bona fide agricultural production. And even between asparagus years? Correct. Whenever we gave the asparagus years, it still counts as part of the cycle, so even though it may seem to be lying dormant, if you're planting asparagus and it takes a few years for the soil to turn over, it's still active farming. Yeah, we just want to make sure it just doesn't go completely foul and it's not used for its intended purpose, which is agriculture. Finally, number 13, which are the dimensional regs. So 13H, we added the 500-foot front yard with a caveat that within that 500-foot front yard, so that would be, along Sound Avenue, that a farm recruit locate up to 5,000 square feet of floor area of ag buildings. Again, recommended by the Farmland Preservation Committee. So farm stands being permitted closer up front to Sound Avenue. Yeah, a storage building, something like that. So that's part of it. Yeah. I mean, that's really within the fabric of Sound Avenue, so I don't really see an issue with that. I think it's a good thing to allow. That's really it in terms of changes. Most of it's remained largely the same since the last draft. I don't know if Ann Marie had anything else. Do you want to say anything? No. That's it. Pretty straightforward. Our recommendation would be for a publishing post, it would be two, one for 301-3, which is the definition section, which adds those first three definitions, and then another for 301-240B, which would be the new ag tourism section of the code. No, our work session supervisor are generally close to the board, but I think this is a key component legislation with the farming community, so I don't know if you would permit if anybody had a question or something like that, that would be the time to bring it up. So if anything needed to be addressed to assist the farming community, we could do that now before we keep going back and forth. 100%. They took time out of their day to come down here, so if anybody has any comments or wants to discuss anything with us, please feel free.

Give me a microphone this way. People at home can hear you, or you can come right to the table. Come on up to the table. Right on down. Yeah. Yeah. Phil Schmidt, obviously. And I'm chair of the Ag Committee. Couldn't quite hear everything you said. I guess my hearing's not as good as it used to be, but I don't know if you want our Ag Committee to just look it over again quickly to make sure that we're happy with the rest of the committee's actions. Yeah, we want to make sure we get this right. You guys have to be comfortable with this. That would probably be the only suggestion I would have. From what I heard, it sounds like we're there. Would you guys not wait a month and do a special meeting to review this? No, we can try to get one together shortly. Okay. Absolutely. Josh from the three. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That would be fine, just to not hold up the process. Sure. But this was initially geared from day one to assist the farming community. How do we preserve our agricultural heritage, the style of farming, but it's along the historic corridor, so it's like taking in all these components there. We are not building a Marriott Marquis along Sound Avenue. That is never going to happen. Never going to happen. But what can we do to force any future development, as opposed to building houses and other things, force the developer's hands to do business with the local farmer? And that's the key component. I think that was the whole idea behind this entire project and this legislation, is that as we start doing any future developments, I want farming to be a part of this. I think that's a key component, how we preserve farming, and we preserve that rural aspect and what everybody loves about Riverhead. Mm-hmm. And farming is anywhere from growing. We grow crops to vineyards. That's what you guys do, and we're never going to direct what you should or shouldn't do. But it's to give options to you so that a developer engages with you in order to succeed, in order to build an inn or a complex in there. They have to come to you. So that was the goal. And for them to get their maximum square footage of the building is that it's going to come through TDRs, and that's what we've been lacking for a long time is a TDR program. I think this is the greatest step in the right direction towards the future. I think it's the greatest step in the right direction towards giving you, as farmers, the opportunity to sell those TDRs to this developer. So I think it's a win for you guys. And so it's a win for preserving the land, too. Yes. Thank you for explaining that, Councilman. More land, but not even the current preserved land, again. Right. So some of the area within that, where the zoning we were talking about is preserved land. That doesn't count into the equation. Yeah. They've got to go buy more. And to the extent, just so everyone's aware, that number four, it does allow you to exceed the 180,000 square feet. So if you're going over 100, you can still develop more via the purchase of TDRs on that property. And the only way they can do that is to come to the farmers. So I would like to just take a moment and say thank you to the town board for recognizing the concerns of the Ike community and re-looking at the legislation in whole and helping us to craft something that's workable both for the town and the farmers as well. farmers. And I think that your comments about preserving land through TDRs in addition to what's already there is exactly the goal that the ag community has been pushing for, both throughout the last 20 years, but also in the comp plan as we go forward for revitalizing TDRs. And this is a perfect example of how the TDR program can work to preserve more farmland, even if it's south of Sound Avenue or in another location, for the benefit of this project. So I wanted to recognize you all and say thank you for that. Spoken by Rob Carpenter, the head of the Long Island Farm Bureau, and farmer Phil Schmidt, and farmer Richard Wines, and historian. We had just said early on that I've made it clear to the farm community, and I've said it at your meetings and in our discussions, that if this wasn't good for the farming community, we'd stop. This is geared for you. Also, the developmental restrictions still play in. So again, I think the public focuses on the in part, potentially, and they say, what's happening here? Are we going to have this megastructure? And how big is it going to go? And are you going to ruin? I think that a small in on one of these things has a less traffic impact that's going on, where people are going to come and they're going to stay for a number of days as opposed to... You know... You know... You know... Other options of housing and so forth in development, where every house has got three cars in the area and going in and out. I think so. There's still the height restrictions, so you're not going to see... They're not going to be visible from... I mean, these are long parcels, and that's why we've worked within this area, because these hotel complexes, they're not going to be visible from Sound Avenue. So you're still going to have that beautiful, picturesque, and that's most important to me, is going down Sound Avenue, continuing seeing the farm usages, not seeing... You know, the development side of things, but we need development to bring in better tax bases, and this is, I think, is a very good balance. Yeah. But just to reassure, because the residents are focusing more on what are they building, how big is it going to be, and what's happening, you know? And it's small, it has height restrictions, and there's all the other things. And it does not have a negative impact on our school, right? Correct. And just to add and build on what Councilor Rockwell said, that's how we... In terms of traffic, that's how we arrived at the max of 150 rooms. In the SECRA handbook, the guidance for a significant traffic impact for hotel use is 250 rooms. So we are well below that threshold. That's not to say, if we ever got an application, that we wouldn't require them to do a TIS under their SECRA review, but that's why we're much lower than that 250. The point that I'm concerned about is the loss of farmers and the loss of farming. When I was a kid, Long Island, eastern Long Island, was the duck farm capital of the world. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. with you about the sale of lettuce coming from Canada because it's socialized. Their farming is socialized in Canada, allowing them to sell it for such a low price that you can't raise it here for the price that they're selling it for. It's also the exchange rate. And the exchange rate, correct. 30 to 35 percent. Yeah, I mean, it was a really interesting conversation. And the last thing I want to see is our farmers go by the wayside. I mean, the soil, we have great soil on Long Island, and it's provided food for so many people, not only locally, but nationwide, our potatoes, our ducks, our strawberries, our corn. You won't find any better anywhere else. I was up in Vermont over the weekend and talking to a farmer up there, and we were talking about corn. And I said, yeah, but your corn is that chewy corn that the pigs like and the chickens eat. I said, you have to come to Long Island to get real corn. And all my travels, I've never tasted corn or fresh-grown strawberries as I have from those from Long Island. And it's things like this we have to preserve. We have to keep it going. And it's scaring me because I know, like some of the big family farms, the younger generations are, they're packing it up, selling out and moving. They just can't afford to do it. And we can't lose that. That's a valuable, valuable asset to us here. So anything we can do to help. And thank you for your comments. One of the things that we recognize, and if you go back, and I'm not saying that you're not going to be able to do it, but if you go back to the early 80s, potatoes was also a big crop that was grown here. And we've seen the loss of many of our potato growers. I think that agriculture is evolving and changing. And what I'm hoping for is the flexibility within the town and within the farm community that the changes. So we may be growing the same amount, but it just might be in different crops with different technologies and different ways of looking at it. Not necessarily that we're just losing farmers and they're going to go by the wayside. So adaptation is something the farmers who are here have already had experience with. And they just need to keep adapting for market changes, for regulations, for all the other pressures they're facing. And vertical farming might be a perfect example of that. It could be. Or just a different look at. Specialized crops, specialized trees, new fruits, new vegetables, different things that we might not have in the past considered to be agriculture are going to become the new norm. So that's what we have to be ever vigilant about and encourage and embrace, even though it may look a little different, it's still going to be farming and production. Ron Charles, Jr.: Rob, I'm going to add to that. I mean, because one of the things, and this is, we're addressing the problem of the crop plant as well, is processing. Currently breweries can brew on, you know, wineries can process their grapes. And somebody, an example would be if somebody has a tomato farm, they can then make sauces or tomato juice onsite rather than harvesting, bringing them somewhere and, you know, being in control. That, Philly, I know your son makes horseradish and he's doing great. I don't think he processes onsite, does he? Phil Gosselin, Jr.: Yeah, we do. Ron Charles, Jr.: Yeah, it's great to hear. Phil Gosselin, Jr.: I mean, it's a little room, you know. Ron Charles, Jr.: Yeah. Phil Gosselin, Jr.: No, but I mean, you know, you hope that business really grows and that can, you know, if it grows to where you want it to grow to, can support the farm. Ron Charles, Jr.: Everybody knows Holy Schmitz. Phil Gosselin, Jr.: I know. Ron Charles, Jr.: I mean, I was just going to say that. Phil Gosselin, Jr.: Well, we do. Ron Charles, Jr.: That is, that has made a name for itself, and rightfully so. Some of the best horseradish I've ever had. Phil Gosselin, Jr.: And it's something that we actually almost, we always grew horseradish. We were actually growing less and less all the time, and hope you always made it, so my son decided we should start selling it. And it's not something I ever envisioned, or like we talk, agritourism. You know, I'd love to see the potato trucks running up and down the road this time of year. You don't see it. I mean, and the reason is, it's not, they're not making enough money. And, you know, I want to preserve the land. It's a great idea. You've got to preserve us, though. Ron Charles, Jr.: Right. Phil Gosselin, Jr.: That's key that we, that preserves us. Ron Charles, Jr.: 100% correct. Phil Gosselin, Jr.: And that's why the kids are leaving the farms. Ron Charles, Jr.: Right. Phil Gosselin, Jr.: You know, and it's, most people don't consider it easy work. Ron Charles, Jr.: Mm-hmm. Phil Gosselin, Jr.: But, you know, it's profitable, and, you know, I don't mind the work. But, you know, it's been difficult. Ron Charles, Jr.: That's what I've learned a lot in terms of the farming community in its attempt to grow, the most expensive thing is purchasing additional land, right? So that's the overhead that really, that, that, that comes with this. Now, a developer has to come to you with the potential of, here is 78,000 acres of land. This is a gift to you, and I need, in order for me to function and operate, I need your help to work this land. And that gives you, you know, an economic way to expand your operations without having to outright purchase, you know, potentially 70 acres or whatever it may be on each particular parcel. I will just say that I was frustrated and, and to hear the comments from the South Hold elected officials about this, this legislation. So I am going to just publicly address it in the format that clearly they didn't lead to, and I'm going to read this legislation, because when you look at what we have at Sound Avenue and our historical corridor, I like the way it is. I'm never a proponent of expanding Sound Avenue, increasing it, widening it, and so forth. And when you go into South Hold, I, you know, I don't, I feel like we've lost that, that beautiful view when we go into a four-lane highway out there. They have read this legislation that this is geared towards the farming community to keep it the way that it looks now, to maintain its aesthetics for many, many years to come. And that's farming. That's the, that's the beautiful view that runs along Sound Avenue. And they're the ones that are developing along that route. I mean, it's great. I know I can make better time when I reach South Hold to get to the ferry, because I'm on a highway system, I suppose. But, but I wish it was Sound Avenue and from the Riverside, you know, from, from coming from Riverhead all the way in, you know, to Orient Point. I wish it looked the same, but it doesn't. So I just think it was interesting for them to comment, like, oh, they're building hotels and complexes they're ruining. No. These are, these are, these are, these are, these are, these are, these are, these are, these are, these are, these are, these are, these are, these are, these are, these are, these

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But if you're potentially going to purchasing 50 TDRs and you've got 70 acres for farming on top of it, I just think it's a multi-layer assistance to the farming community. Well, the 70 acres is already there, so we don't get any net preservation there. But they don't have to, but they're not developed to, and they're not used to this. They can't develop to it. You do, because the 70 acres don't count towards your yield. Exactly right. You have to essentially land TDRs to make up that 70 acres. So you have to land at least 70 to get to the minimum as of right. Okay, that's what I want to say. And then you can keep going beyond that to get to the maximum. And we know there's not going to be one magic bullet that says, okay, we're going to preserve 6,000 acres so you never have to worry about the project. We know it's going to be made up of, okay, let's look at this project. But we can chip away at it. If we can get 100 acres this year, we can just keep chipping away at it. That's what we're doing. That's what we've got to do before we lose it to housing. Exactly. I'm very confident that this is a good addition to the code. It's not going to be a smoking gun, but it's another tool in the toolbox. Very well done. Thank you. Thank you all for all the work. Thank you for the work. Thank you guys for doing it. Just word for the wise, if you go up to Mr. Schmidt's farm and buy his horseradish and take it home and grind it like I do, do it out on the deck. Or wear goggles. Wear goggles. Your wife and your dog will never forgive you. So just want to let you know that. It's true. He's very emotional with your horseradish, grinding it. Dad, why are you crying so much? Oh my God. But it is so good. Fresh horseradish. We do our own horseradish. Isn't it the best? Unbelievable. Okay. We are next up with Christy Verity from the BID and Liz O'Shaughnessy, Chamber of Commerce, and it will be matters surrounding the summer job fair. So ladies, come on up. Good morning, everyone. Good morning. How are you folks? Good. Good to have you with us. Yes. These are hard acts to follow, but this will be beneficial. You guys, this sounds like a great program. All right. So we're here this morning just to go through a couple of new events that are happening downtown and looking for the support to co-sponsor the events for us. You speak very low. You need to just come into the light. Just come into the light. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really? Really?

is a partnership with the Chamber of Commerce and the BID. We'd like to do a job fair in Town Square on May 23rd from 1 to 4 p.m. This job fair would be free to Chamber and BID members to come down and recruit employees. And I believe there will be a $100 fee for non-members to participate. That's also incentive to join the Chamber and interact with the BID as well. So, you know, anything from personal employment to long-term employment, career changes, or just employers that want to come down and, you know, share information on their businesses or organizations and interact with the community. So, we're thinking Town Square, we have 40 foot by 100 foot on either side of Town Square. So, we'll plan out and map the vendors accordingly. And in lieu of a rain date, Suffolk Theatre has been generous to open their doors to us so we could do it inside there. So, we're hoping to capture kids, college kids coming home and people on the east end of Memorial Day weekend. So, this is the Thursday of Memorial Day weekend. Excellent. And just to be clear, the fee is for the employers? Yes. Not for people to come to the job fair? Correct. Yeah, just for the employers to come inside. So, there's some benefit to BID, you know, the BID district and Chamber members? Would you guys be open to working with myself and with Terry, the head of the union here. What we're trying to promote, we're doing this with the high school, is connections so people take civil service, you know, civil service tests, right? Because there's a lack of, you know, that's way, way down and they're good jobs when you stay on for a number of years. Yeah, that would be great. Absolutely. Yes. And I encourage the town and riverhead departments to come down as well. I know there's a few job listings available too. And you want to talk a little bit about sponsorship? Well, so, were you going to talk about the blood drive as well? You can do that. Oh, okay. So, we've been talking with New York Blood Center, who are members of the Chamber. They've been wanting to do a blood drive for a while now. So, we thought it would be nice to be able to merge the two events and then we'll have all that cross-marketing. They have a wide reach in the high schools on all three Suffolk County campuses. So, the more marketing, the better to bring in, you know, a pool of potential employees. So, they would just need the okay to they'll start off with a mini bus and as we promote it, as they start booking appointments, if they're getting a large amount of people who want to donate blood, they'll move to a bigger bus. So, we're just speaking on behalf of them that they will have, will be able to accommodate that bus. Ideally in the parking lot if we do the outdoor event and if we go over to Suffolk Theater, that it can park in front of Suffolk Theater. Awesome. I'm just curious, what is the date of the high school job there? This doesn't collide with that, does it? No, it does not. And we're planning on doing one to four, so we hope to capture some of the high school kids after school, but we just feel like in the past, the job fairs at the high school are very important, obviously, but for our memberships, you know, they don't all hire under the age of 18, and we're really advocating for our businesses and trying to pull in a bigger pool of potential employees, including the high school. Would that include internships? Absolutely. Yeah, anyone who wants to come participate, the more businesses we have, whatever their needs are, you know, we welcome them. And I appreciate any of your, you know, promoting of it as well with your networks. Absolutely. Great. And we have been in conversation with the Rotary and the library and a number of groups, so they've all been invited, and it's a great way for all of us to, you know, the Bidding Chamber included, with summer events and things coming up for us to capture some volunteers and explain a little more about what we do and how people can get involved, and community service credits as well. We can both give community service credits. So what would a business owner have to do to get involved with this? We are going to put a link and flyer up on both of the websites, so downtownriverhead.org and riverheadchamber.com, so the registration will likely go through the Chamber. We have a great program that the Chamber uses, so we'll set up registration there, and the link will be readily available. We were just waiting for the final okay to go, and now we'll go full board pushing it, marketing it, and promoting it. So with approval, I'll submit an application to PD for the assembly permit, and I'll also work with the Attorney's Office in regard to any liability insurance or concerns that they have with vendors or the bus coming. Alright, next slide. Okay, so this is another event that we were talking with the Rotary Club. So I'm not speaking on behalf of the Rotary, but we did have a Zoom meeting with the Chamber of Commerce, the BID, and the Rotary, and the representative from the Anti-Litter Committee. So the Rotary Club is doing an International Day of Service that they're participating in. Last year was the first time they intended to participate, but they were rained out with this event. So they'd like to do it again. This is Saturday, May 18th, and this is different than the Town of Riverhead where we're doing the Anti-Litter Committee cleanup. So they want to do something along the Peconic River. So it would be a community cleanup on the river and beside the river. So they're partnering with the Long Island Aquarium and the paddleboard and kayak rental groups to get people in the water to help clean up. And then also looking to activate the entire riverfront from Grand Jebel down toward where the aquarium entrance is and have different setups. So we have some vendors there offering educational material and interactive activities. We have some things going on with Grand Jebel Park and Reflections. We're working with environmental artists to redo the mural that's on the shipping container. Right now it's angel wings. It's a little faded. So we're looking to do something like an osprey or an eagle, some local inhabitant. And we'd like to get that artist and environmental teacher there. And then we have a quag wildlife refuge as well. So just those sort of activations along the riverfront downtown and informing people what's in the river, how their actions impact the landscape and the river. The Anti-Litter Committee would be involved with this as well. So we're just looking for support to host that event and bring people downtown for that. Mary Hughes did reach out to me from Rotary to try to engage with the Anti-Litter. So they're definitely on board. So I'll just ask them to come forward to help out with that. Yes. So the goal is, as far as marketing, to market the two of them together. I mean it's April and May. And the Anti-Litter cleanup again is town-wise. So this would just be downtown along the river. And once we dive into it a little more with the marketing and the concept of it, we'll put out posts and explain kind of the difference between the two. So just looking for support on that as well. You've got it. Next slide. Okay. Shakespeare in the Park. So this group, Northeast Stage, is a non-profit that hosts Shakespeare in the Park. They do it in Grangeville Park. They do it I believe in Huntington, Up Island. And they've done it in Riverhead the last few years on the East End Arts campus. When they do it at Mitchell Park Marina in Greenport, they have about 200 people attend. When they do it in Riverhead they have about 40 people attend. So they're looking for to expand the attendance and just really drive home you know different sorts of arts and culture activities in Riverhead you know we have a lot of street festivals and concerts and things like that this is a little bit different so they came to me and asked for support the bid sponsors them every year but they also asked for some support with marketing and location change so I suggested Grand Jewel Park it's nice we have a nice stage there Reflections has really opened the door to activating that park and doing events there you know last year we worked on I worked on the Peconic County Brewing Beer Festival there and that was the first time that the park was activated by a private entity which was great so I know also School of Rock is interested in hosting a couple of events there and they've reached out so it's nice to see people you know taking interest in Grand Jewel Park the more people we have in Grand Jewel Park helps to keep it you know beautiful and walkable and safe so I would submit the permit application and work with them as far as liability and things like that this would be on I believe it's a Wednesday July 24th and then they're doing Othello this year so one of the main characters is a man of color and they're also they want to do some inclusive programming such as ASL interpretation where they'd have two interpreters acting out the play along with it so again with all this lead time that we have which is great the people are so much more involved in the event and so I think it's a great opportunity to do that. people are coming to us now and not in the summer I suggested that we work with some organizations across Long Island that represent different cultures and people of all abilities Liz as well is on the inclusion task force so we'll be depending on them and then they also want to offer their program in Spanish so that people who don't speak English and Shakespeare is hard enough to follow as it is should follow along in some manner so we'd love to support them any way we can and you know keep the town I think it's a great opportunity to do that. I think it's a great opportunity to do that. I think it's a great opportunity to do that. I think it's a great opportunity to do that.

putting in new poles, Southeast One is activated. And, you know, with that, it will make things a lot easier, turning the lights on in the park, turning the reflections pieces on, and also providing power to PA systems and things of that nature. You know, I just want to say, I'm sorry, Christy, did you have another one? No, go ahead. Because I'm not always at work sessions, so I just wanted to take the opportunity to say that starting in January of 2023, we started hosting collaboration meetings at the Chamber office. And I must say, you know, we're over a year in now, and they're really getting legs. And I feel like the spirit of collaboration is alive and well. And we're working on any other, you know, kinks that may pop up, as you know, with all the different placemakers in this town. But it's been a wonderful thing, and I feel like that attitude of collaboration is really moving things forward. And with the town support, with the wonderful town board, like there's... Amazing things happen. There's a lot of people working very hard. Any time you want to come, you know, feel free, because, you know, we get the Channel 22 shot live, and we get the announcement out, a lot of people watch it. So any time you guys have any information at all, just give a holler, and we'll put you right in. Thank you. Absolutely. And speaking of School of Rock, tomorrow is their ribbon cutting, so they're a Chamber member, and that's going to be pretty exciting. So we'll see you all there as well. I'm going to apologize. I have a conflict. Oh, okay. I know all the board members will be there. Okay. I apologize. I'm with the cap tomorrow. Oh. I'll be there. Okay. We'll be here. I can't wait to see the place. They've done an amazing job. Yes. Yes. Joanne's going to be performing. Sure. Oh, excellent. We want the place to stay open. Yeah. Yes. I mean, the west end of town there, you know, you have a little pop of color, and it's nice to see cleaning up on that end as well. But your team is great. You know, organizing. You're facilitating the ribbon cuttings for Chamber members. We've got that down. So, again, thank you for helping us along there. Good job. Good things. Thank you for all that you guys do. Yes, absolutely. Yes, thank you. It's great stuff. Next slide. Just on behalf of the Anti-Litter Committee, I just want to reiterate that they have a townwide cleanup on Sunday, April 28th. There's pickup here from 9 to 11 a.m. for materials. Yes. However, you know, feel free to begin before 9 a.m. cleaning the town or, you know, go all day. I did send out an email to downtown businesses, and we'll be blasting out to our entire list to kind of get a downtown team. I'd like to see, you know, the downtown businesses and their employees and people on the street. And I think it's a great way for them to interact and meet each other and, you know, open the season. But they have about 20 to 25 people signed up for any event. Yes. And they're all people signed up right now and could really use a lot more. So there's an email and a flyer that's circulating around downtown. And then the flyer and the link is also on downtownriverhead.org for anyone to sign up. It's not a downtown team. And that form does forward to Deb Wetzel, who is the chair for the Litter Committee. So I'm just trying to, you know, give a lot of avenues for people to sign up. We also have the Beach Committee is going to be involved as well. Excellent. Okay. And I believe the Rotary said that. They are going to get a group together too. Great. Contact the ROTC. They will get involved. Okay. Can I just make, I have to recognize somebody. I want to recognize Denise's daughter. Yes. It's Chloe? Courtney. Courtney. Who has been designing for a very long time for the Litter Committee. So I want to recognize that. Thank you. I wanted to just add, can Justin put on the banner on the bottom? Yes. And you can see the dates of these different events. Oh, absolutely. Those floating on through. Sure. So especially the closer they get to the event. Yes. Yeah. But I'll continue to update the town and send over a calendar of all of these events downtown. I know you have our big calendar, but, you know, there's a lot of other things that are happening. And not only by the Bidden Chamber and these groups, but there's a lot of things that haven't even been put on the calendar and PD agenda yet. So we're, you know, we're here to promote everything that's happening in town. Good. Excellent. And then one last thing that's exciting news for me, and I forgot to put on here, but thanks to Frank Mancini in the Water District, we are going to be painting the fire hydrants that have murals on them downtown. There's about 25 of them. They're faded. There was a contest that was done about 20 years ago through East End Arts, and they really need to be cleaned up. So it's been about four years of conversation with the fire department and fire marshal and now the Water District. But Frank is on board. He's helping me get some reflective paint, and we're working together with them. So that's exciting, and we will have that done by spring. That's been a long time coming. That's great. You've been asking to do this for quite some time. Yes. So we'll be putting out a request for proposals and sketches for these, and we have, I believe it's 25. We're partnering with East End Arts as well. You know, the Chamber will be there to support. And, yeah, we can't wait for that. That's great. Thank you. Anyone that's creative or, you know, has ideas. Devin's pretty good in the supervisor's office. Did they meet last night? We did, yes. Do you have any news on a new person? So I was going to send out a formal press release and let the board make their announcements. Good. Anything else? Did you guys bring breakfast or just showed up? We're going to Papa next week. We're going to have breakfast after this. All are invited. There you go. Great. There you go. Well, thank you, ladies, so much. Thank you, everyone. Any time you need something to get out, you know, to be announced or whatever, come. As we all know, marketing dollars are hard to come by, very expensive. So when we're all working together and blasting things out from our different networks, it's huge. And thank you to Denise and Tim because the local papers do a good job assisting us as well. Agreed. And, you know, your collaboration is great. Thank you. And I think the other thing is going to help you getting sponsors. Right. You know, when they know you're, you know, it's a larger effort. Yeah. We're seeing it already. I mean, sponsors and word of mouth, too. You know, we've received so much more support this year. And it's just sharing resources and knowledge and manpower. It's really helping all of us to host these events. And, you know, grant applications, you know, community development has been so supportive of the work that we're doing. And they are also on those collaboration meetings once a month. So they're inundated with things. And we're very grateful for the support that we have from everyone and joining in with us. And even being able to take this message outside of Riverhead, like, I am honored to sit on the Romaine's Committee of the Downtown Revitalization as a messenger, gathering all the information from the different, you know, people that are doing things in this town. But when I'm able to speak to the effort of everyone working together, it gets a lot of, like, hmm, you know, like, what are we doing wrong? And I'm able to speak to the people that are doing things in this town. So it's shining favorably upon Riverhead. It's certainly on the map. I mean, we attend a lot of meetings outside of Riverhead. I said Riverhead is on the map. We attend a lot of meetings outside of Riverhead. And, you know, they say that they see Riverhead really, it's not up and coming anymore. We're there. And, you know, we're pioneering in a lot of ways, too. So, you know, it's taken a lot of other downtowns and villages and towns and, you know, different things. And we've been working with county organizations and whatnot to lay the path. And I think that we've, you know, really done a good job with going forward. Don't get molly-sick. I was admitting my mileage to the chamber. All right. Thank you again, everyone. Thank you. All right. Thank you. Thanks a lot. I love this. Okay. That completes our open session for today's work session agenda. We're going to shortly close the meeting and go into executive session. And we're going to discuss personnel matters, matters surrounding a possible change in status of an employee with Prudente and Striplin, Tio, and Coyne. Matters surrounding possible LOA for an employee with Rothar and Striplin, Tio. Matters surrounding possible change in status of an employee with Hubbard. Matters surrounding possible hiring of an employee with Hubbard. And matters surrounding possible sale of real property with Hubbard. We could have a motion to close the work session. And go into executive session. So moved. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? Work session is closed. And we will be going into executive session. Everybody have a great week. And enjoy the weekend. Thank you.

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