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Thank you. Thank you. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, everyone. Okay, open session today, work session. Before I say that, though, I do have a couple of notes to... a couple of notes I want to bring up. Saturday, this Saturday, June 15th, from 11 to 1, the Highway Department has a show that they're putting on for members of the community and especially for the kids. They're going to have all their heavy equipment, big trucks, everything set out, and the kids can come down and climb in the trucks and see what it's like to ride up in a big payloader or a dump truck. And there's going to be hot dogs and chips down there, and Mike Zaleski is doing this with folks from the Highway Department. So Saturday, June 15th, from 11 to 1, 1177 Osborne Avenue is where the Highway Department is located. Stop on down and let him show you some of the... and some of the new equipment they got, that vac truck is... that thing is huge, and it's really impressive what it can do. So it's interesting to see some of the equipment and vehicles that they use, so stop on down. Tomorrow is June 14th, which is Flag Day, so we wish everyone to take a moment out of their day tomorrow to stop and think about what the red, white, and blue, and 50 stars mean to all of us. It certainly means a lot, and a lot has gone on over the years and centuries to make that flag stand for what it stands for today, so we need to recognize that and never forget who we are and where we come from. And Sunday, last but not least, is Father's Day, so happy Father's Day to every father, grandfather, uncle, and again, same as Mother's Day, you don't have to be the natural born parent to be a father to somebody. You know, we're all born to be a father. You know, a lot of families, extended families, people step up and step up their game in raising children, so happy Father's Day to everybody who's involved with that, we appreciate it. Okay, open session. We have a good one this morning. We have Bill Falk and members from PSEG, and it's Matters Surrounding PSEG and Time of Day Rates Programming, and this is very interesting, and we touched on it briefly before, and gentlemen, if you would mind coming up and grab a seat at the table here, and we can explain to the public what this is all about. It's a great program. Good morning. Happy to be here. I'm Bill Falk. I'm the Regional Public Affairs Manager for PSEG, for Eastern Subic, which is Brookhaven, the five east end towns. With me today are Brian Kurtz and Gary DeFelice, they're with our Time of Day program, and they're going to give you an overview on the Time of Day Use Billing Program and how we can help everybody save money. Good. Love it. Love it. Thanks for having us. Thank you for coming in. Thank you. [transcription gap] I think next slide. How do we advance? Magic. There's a video that was sent. Are you able to play that or click the link? It might work. There you go. Perfect. Ready? Yep. [transcription gap]

You can even program your thermostat to work less during peak hours. Let's break it down so you can time your savings. Peak hours are when electricity demand is highest, leading to higher energy prices. During off-peak hours are when the demand is lower, leading to lower rates. This is a change from our original flat rate structure. This shift makes for a cleaner, more efficient and more reliable energy grid for you, your neighbors and the entire PSEG Long Island community. You now have two options. The standard off-peak rate gives you 20 hours every weekday to save, with peak hours only from 3pm to 7pm. The super off-peak rate offers a discounted rate from 10pm to 6am every weekday, with up to a 40% discount off the old flat rate. Plus, enjoy all the benefits of off-peak hours. You can save off-peak savings all weekend, every weekend. To make the transition easier, you'll have the benefit of guaranteed bill protection. If you don't save on your new plan in the first 12 months, you'll get a refund for 100% of the difference. So dig in and see how you can time your savings.

So we think that video captures the heart of it. We have a new set of rates. We have a new set of rates. That are options for customers. And we'll talk about what that means and how we're approaching the customers that we've had for a long time and have today. And as new customers move in as well. So, next slide. So most of our customers today are residential customers. This is a residential program right now. There are other options that are completely voluntary that we do have for small. Just need to ask everybody to move closer to the mic. Because they can't get you in the background. Don't move the mic. I'm sorry? Don't move to the mic. Small commercial? Yes. But the program we're here today is talking about our residential program. So the majority of our customers, most customers are on what we would refer to as a flat rate. That means no matter what hour of the day, day of the week that you use your electricity, the charges are the same. They do vary by season, summer and non-summer, just like you'll see our new time of day rates do. But it's that same charge. What that means is whether it costs us more or less, that rate is spread between everyone that uses a certain amount of electricity. For every kilowatt hour, every increment of electricity you use, you get charged that same rate. Next slide. Time of day rates, they're different. They take into account the impacts and the costs to the utility and encourage customers. So that's a great way to help us reduce costs and be able to use lower price electricity and cleaner energy sources. And when we do that, we can pass those savings along to our customers. So if we spend less, customers can spend less. So we have two new rates and the time of day off peak rate that you see there on the left of the slide, which is our, we refer to it as rate 194 officially. That is our new standard rate. So what's a standard rate? I skipped over that a little bit on the last slide. Our standard rate means when a new customer comes in, a new account created, that's the default. That's the rate that they go on. It's the common rate that most people are on. Today, most people have been on a flat rate. But as of January 29th of this year, time of day, this 194 on the left became our standard rate. And we do have another optional rate, which is our rate 195, our super off peak rate. That's really good if you can use a lot of electricity or already do use a lot of electricity in the overnight periods. So lots of use cases, lots of unique things, but the common ones that work really well for this tends to be EV owners that can program their EVs. It's a lot of set and forget. Talk about how customers take advantage of this, but they can program their EV to take advantage of those overnight discount hours. Pool owners, pool pubs. That's huge right there. Et cetera. So dryers, there's lots of things that we'll get into, but the really big things are what that is. Because there are slightly higher rates in the peak period to compensate for giving that 40% discount overnight. But when you can shift to a low period of energy use and take advantage of when less people are, less demand, that's where we can pass on, again, a lot of those additional savings. Another question. So another big factor is it looks like when you just look at the price charts, oh, peak is a good portion of the day. Peaks are 3 to 7 PM for both rates. But it's only during the weekdays. It's off-peak or super off-peak if you're on the three-period rate. All weekends and federal holidays. And 88% of the year is actually in those off-peak or super off-peak periods. So most of the year is in the discount periods. Yeah. Yeah. And so that means it's a little bit of time where we're asking customers to, if they'd like to save money and choose this option, to try to change the way they use electricity and shift to those less costly, cleaner times to use. Sure. So next slide. So time of day, electricity prices are based on when people use energy again during those time periods. Peak being 3 to 7 is the most cost. It's when peak periods are right when in the afternoons, 3 PM to 7 PM, when kids are coming home from school, especially during the summer, the air conditioning is going, businesses are still running. So these home activities and business activities are overlapping. And then the heat from the day in the summertime especially, more probably in the summer than in the winter. And you see that reflected in the different seasonal costs of the rates as well, is more impactful during that time. And we'll talk about why. So if customers can change when they use things and mostly programmable things is what we're looking at. The big things that matter. Not the lights. Not the computers that you're using for work. It's the bigger things that matter to shift. Take some small, make some small changes. And then be able to save. Next slide. So why is this? Why does this matter to us? So as a utility. We have to maintain a certain amount of generation based on at the, basically customers at the, using electricity, air conditioning especially, at the highest, hottest time of the year in that case when it's driven by a summer peak utility that we currently are. We have to maintain that and a buffer so that we never have blackouts. Right. Or brownouts. That's, so we have to build the contract for. That source of generation. And, and then. And that's the cost that comes with that. And we have. Generators that run all the time. And they're more efficient. They're more cost efficient and more fuel efficient and they emit fewer and there's fewer emissions that come from them. During those peak periods, there's additional sources of generation. Peaker power plants. They have to fire up during those high demand times that are dirtier. There's. They use, you know, fuel oil and and they're more costly to run and and then we're constantly maintain. So the goal is to reduce the need for that. Those peaker units that we can lower the cost for everyone when we don't have that extra generation. We have to keep on hand and on contract or when we use that becomes more positive to actually use. So that's how the savings occur. And then we can also over time be replacing. That with more renewable energy sources. And that's solar wind battery storage especially. Can take the place of some of those. People plants as well. So that's the overall the goals are to save. The cost of the utility and then pass those savings along to our customers. And this is all doable because of the digital meters that are on everybody's house today. Correct. I mean, years ago you couldn't do that with the old style meter. So yeah, when it when when we file. Our. Our utility the future plan in twenty eighteen and then had our three year deployment of those smart meters. Already in that original plan was the first set of time of use rates that we had a few years of pilot rates. We had four different rates at that time that we were trying out for our customers. And and that was what we call an AMI enabled capability. We also have remote connect disconnect so we don't have to have as many vehicles out on the road. Things like that. So when we installed those meters. Made the plan we were planning not only. About the meter reads and the accuracy and the fact that get fifteen minute increment data from them to be more accurate from billing standpoint all these other benefits. Modernized rates and more efficient operations as a whole and more insights the customer is a whole set of benefits from looking at that data that we can provide our customers to understand what they're using in their home and what's costing them more or less. And all residents now have the smart meters. Yeah. The majority of residents. Yeah. You know, they're using the smart meters. Yeah. Yeah. And so, you know, 99% I believe plus currently have them. There was an opportunity to opt out and we'll talk about this in a minute. I hear to this isn't a mandatory program. We're going to be migrating our customers over to this new range, but they do have the option to maintain a flat rate. If they well for some people that may not work going with the other way. And I would say give it a try and see how it is because if you can save money save money and one thing I got to mention you. Bill you mentioned this to me when we met a couple months ago. And PSEG and people probably going to laugh at this statement, but PSEG is not really in the business of trying to make money off of people. Their business is really trying to conserve energy and that's something I'm sure a lot of a lot of ratepayers don't understand and will probably say, oh, yeah, right, but can you explain that a little bit more? So PSEG Iowa has a contract with WIPA to operate the grid. It's a it's a fixed rate of of of the rate. Right. [transcription gap] Right. [transcription gap] somebody spends more money on their bill. So our goal obviously is to make the rate work more efficiently, reduce cost to the ratepayers and things like that. Well because it reduced costs for you also. Absolutely. And then you pass that on to the ratepayers. So that's a good thing to know. Good thing to know. Appreciate that for sure. Especially in my house. Next slide. So how can customers do this? They can choose their best rate based on their lifestyle. And then it's a lot of those set and forget things. So it is charging those EVs overnight, programming your pool pump to run overnight. And it doesn't mean you can't run it during the day. And if you're only on the two period rate, that peak off peak rate, which has the peak from three to seven and all of your hours are off peak, you can run it outside of that period. And even if you wanted to run for an hour during that, if you happen to be in the pool, you can flip it on for that hour that you're in the pool. Not a big deal. And then again, weekends and holidays are all at the off peak and super off peak rates. That's a really good one. The other big concept is pre-cooling. As you kind of said, you were running overnight jokingly, maybe a little bit, but if you, it takes a while for a building to cool down or heat up. So what customers can do is they can, they can lower the air conditioning temperature for the few hours before by three or four degrees. So that they're not uncomfortably cold, but maybe a little cooler than they would have normally done. Maybe because they were bill conscious. And then during the peak, they raise that temperature during the summer, those three degrees or four degrees and the building will slowly will be pre-cooled. It'll be cooler than it would normally. And during those later afternoon hours, it will just slowly rise to what your normal setting is. And then maybe a hair beyond it, depending upon how much pre-cooling you did and otherwise. So it's a really other central air conditioning, especially, but even room air conditioning. Um, is a, is a really big part of the cost during the summer and overall annual bill. And then, and then there's lots of specialty places that the customers have. Um, as well. Well, with the new appliances and stuff, everything with the electronics involved, you can work them from your phone, some of these things. So you can set your dishwasher, your dryer, your washing machine to come on at certain times. And that's where this would really save them the money. And it's the same thing that you're just describing. It's you, you don't, you're not sure, you're not sure what you're doing. You're not sure what you're doing. You're not sure what you're doing. You're not sure what you're doing. You're not sure what you're doing. It's just how you program it to go on. Right. So you plug in your EV when you come home, you don't have to wait till, you know, 10 o'clock at night to take advantage of that super off peak period and plug it in and just program it either in the car and your charger, depending on what you have to start charging at that overnight period. And, and dishwashers, uh, dryers, they have a delay function. That's usually two, three, four hours. So you can load it, even get it all ready to go, press the delay function. Yep. Have it come on in the off peak hours. That's right. And how do I know when I'm going to get it? When my dryer has wifi? Cause I had no idea. And then you can probably have an app and program it as well.

It's a great program. This really is. And, uh, okay. Next slide. Gary, Gary's not going to talk to you a little bit about the rest of the program details. Yep. Um, so not all customers are eligible for the time of day. So we talked about, um, it's a residential only program, right? So business customers are not yet eligible. For a kind of day program. I don't think. Right. For small business, a small and medium business, there are two optional time of use rates that, that, uh, we're also piloted. They're, they're still in effect. So there are some options for what defines a small business just for small businesses. You know, is it, is the amount of money they're income or how it's it's the combination. And this is not my area of expertise, but it's, it's, it's basically a combination of how much they use and their demand, how much they're using at any one given point. So depending upon those thresholds, you're going to have to wind up in a certain rate class. So there's, I think three main, there may be some specialties as well there, but there's three main commercial rates and the smallest one, which is the most common are rate two 80 is like akin to a residential customer. It's designed for that business class, but it's, there's no demand to charge when you get to two 81, which is that medium, actually it's technically large business, but not the larger business. Um, that starts to have demand charges and they're just structured differently between that two 81 and the two 85, which is probably, you know, the larger businesses we have in many of those two 85 customers, the larger businesses are with our managed accounts program as well. Good summary. Thank you. I don't know the business side as well. So that was good. Um, and you talked about the smart meters before, right? So they have to have a smart meter in order for this to be, to work for them. And as Brian pointed out before, the majority of our customers have the smart meters. So that covers that. So that's a great point. Yeah. And I think that's a great point. Um, and I think that's a great point. Um, and I think that's a great point. Um, and I think that's a great point. Um, and I think that's a great point. Um, that covered there. And then there's some special programs that we have green choice, Long Island choice, stuff like that. Those customers are not going to be eligible for time of day. And I don't know that that would change at any point, but as of right now, um, they would not be eligible. Yeah. Next slide. You guys could just speak up just a little bit. They're having a problem hearing you. Maybe I'll get closer to the mic too. Um, next slide. Thanks. So we've touched on this before, or at least it was in the video, but we're offering bill protection. Uh, it's guaranteed bill protection. It's probably one of the best parts of this program. As you said, there's really no loss for a customer to try it. Um, what we're doing is we're running at the same time as we're generating your time of day usage. We're also generating what your bill would look like if you're on the flat rate. Still you sh you can actually, after 12 months, if you would have saved money by staying on the flat rate, we'll actually give a refund on the next bill. You know, that's a refund on the bill. Um, if you're in the middle of the program and you realize, you know, you're six months in and you're, you're losing, you can actually opt out of the program and call it revert. And you'll actually get a credit back as well at that point. So feel like you're just not gonna be able to change your habits or things of that nature. Um, we'll be able to offer the, uh, bill protection on, on that as well. Um, when you move out of your location, if, if you were better, like if it was in the 12 months, you were better off on the flat rate, you would get the credit back when you moved out as well. So just before you go forward. So do you need to be enrolled for a full, a full year before you actually see the difference? Is that number two? Like in other words, my immediately picking up my bill next month and saying, Hey, I've been doing everything from 10 PM or is it like you got to do the 12 months? No, you can see it after the first month. Absolutely. Yeah. Yes. You enroll. And then you switch your habits immediately. You'll see the savings. No, don't you? So yeah. Well, let me explain that. So, so yes, if you're being successful and you're using our lower cost off, you can super off peak times, uh, where you would have been paying more on a flat rate. Um, you're going to see those, those bill savings immediately from a bill protection standpoint, as you're learning, and maybe you're still trying some things it's, it's designed to be, you know, it's designed to be a little bit more expensive. Um, and then you're going to see the savings. So you're going to see the savings. So you're going to see the savings be a cumulative effect because what we do know about time of day time of use rates is that there are seasonal differences. There were different equipment you use in your home based on the seasons. So it's not just the pricing structure. It's really the use different equipment and you have different opportunities to save. If you're an EV customer, that's your round. If you're a full customer that's trying to shift using that large load, your savings are going to come primarily during the summer where you may even spend a little bit more during the rest of the year. But it's that, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, that's the, but it's that total. We're looking at over 12 months to say, did I save over a year? And, um, knowing that some months could cost you a little bit more. Some months will cost you potentially significantly less. If you've got that large load to shift. Um, and if you were to unenroll within 12 months, um, then you would be given that credit. At that point you unrolled. Otherwise, if you've stayed with the program, you didn't make any other choices until the 12 months, which is really. The recommendation. That's why we offer 12 months of bill protection because of these monthly weather and equipment, different differences for a lot of customers. At that point, you'll receive your automatic bill protection. You don't have to take any action at the 12 months. Speaker 2 See when you do this rate, you can still do the budget rate year round. Speaker 3 Yes. Right. You can still be on balance. Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah. Cool heater. Speaker 3 Yes. Speaker 2 And the balance billing helps that second way in what I just described. So because they have some of these seasonals, some months you may pay a little bit more and other months you'll pay less that in and of itself balances your costs and spreads that savings over the year, but it'll spread in future years. Speaker 3 So with balance budget, I might, I might have to be enrolled a year and then, then you'll give me a new balance. Speaker 2 Yes. And with balance billing, that's exactly how that, that would work because at your re-up period, or, or if you have a significant difference at six months, you kind of take a look for really large differences in six months. And then it's a year for most customers that, you know, they're using close to their balance. Speaker 3 Now I belong to the community solar part of it. So I would have to opt out of that to try this, correct? Speaker 3 And, and to, uh, if you're in community distributed generation, this is where it gets tricky. I'm not always clear. I didn't have my solar team to, you know, the nuances, the differences. So community distributed generation, uh, does have the opportunity to be on rate 194, your hosts site there on community distributed generation, Distribution will probably kick you off if you try to be on 195 because it doesn't work properly with that program. But community choice aggregation, CCAs, they're currently not able to, nor green choice where you're getting your power supply through a third party green provider. So, yes, you'd have to unenroll from those programs if you wanted to participate in this program. Because that saves me roughly $20 a month when I signed up with that. I've been on it for about a year or so now, so it's nice. And one of the big things, I'm not sure if it's in the slide deck, the bill comparison tool. I don't think we have actual pictures of it. Okay, so let me, you wanted to describe the comparison tool that we have for customers on the app? I mean, yeah, I've dabbled, you've done it really well, that's why I'll defer to you. So we have a tool that all customers can use. They can go on to their. My account, log into their my account, their personal account, or on their mobile app. Right. And there's a rate comparison button on that mobile app or within the my account, there's both a drop down and a button, two different locations. And the big, it's a bigger site. And you can look at what rate you're on today, what your annual costs are. And then we're doing billing comparisons using your last three, if you've had, sorry, you have to have a smart meter for at least a year, which most of our customers have now, except for a new customer. Yeah. And with that 12 months of historic AMI data, that 15 minute data, we can say, here's how much you've been actually paying on your billings for the last 12 months. And here's, if you were on rate 194 using the current rates, but your historic usage data, your AMI data, this is what you would have paid on the off-peak rate or the super off-peak rate. So you can compare without making any changes, you know, where is your starting point? If I started off today, would I already be winning or would have a little bit of a deficit to make up? And then what can I do to make up that deficit to then save even more? So you can take a look at your account. Right. This is where I'm going with that. To see, are you better off on any one of these rates today? You know, what would your annual cost estimate to be? Because you have a separate, unique niche situation. So you'd say, okay, you're saving about $20. Does that, you know, when I look at what I said, if I were to save $20, I would save $20. I would have a rate 180, which is our flat rate, or one of these tune-in time of day rates. So you really have to select one of the three plans, the flat rate, off-peak, or super off-peak? Or if you're on, like, off-peak, do you still get the super off-peak prices? Like, are you signing up for... So you're signing up for a rate plan, yes. So which one do you want? Yes. And you can... Does it automatically kick in if you're on off-peak? When it turns to 10 p.m., does it automatically kick in? No, no. Because they have different price structures during the day. Okay. Question, what if you're a flunky? You signed up for the super one, and you've just failed miserably. What happens to you as a consequence? So we have bill protection against either time or rate option. Okay. So if you did revert back to flat rate, you would get a bill credit if you would do one. Okay. If you tried and it just didn't work out for the first year. Or if you were... You have the opportunity to switch between the two rates, too, as you're playing with what can I do, what's comfortable for me. What's comfortable for me and my family. What makes sense. We had this... We've demonstrated this for a long time on our few years of voluntary time of use. And we had four different rate options. We'd see customers optimizing as they really learned what worked for them and what rate structure best matched that. And so you can do that between the two rates. The one thing to point out is that because there are savings and some seasonal savings, if you come off of a time of use rate, either one, you could flip back and forth between the two time of day rates, but if you came off of that and went back to a flat rate, you can't rejoin a time of use rate or time of day rate for 12 months. All right. Because a savvy customer could gain the system. Right. Come on and off when it works for them. I figured they had to do something like that. The rest of our customers would be spending, paying for those customers. Yeah. Yeah. Pure discounts. Or they're high cost. You got it. So when you go into the app, it actually will tell you what the best plan is. Oh, wow. Okay. The 195, it says 195 is the best for me. That's pretty cool. And right there, you can actually select it. Yeah. Right. Right. You don't, right. You can actually just . It's not just review, right? It immediately will change it. Transaction without having a. It'll be an effective date, like tomorrow or something. It'll say. And the app is actually just called PSEG or does it have another name? PSEG line. It's PSEG line. Okay. So if you would tell them that these are my, this is my lifestyle and this is my situation at home, will they recommend, like will the program recommend what they think you should go on in that app? So. We're not going to recommend a rate. That is going to be a personal choice, but we will describe to you the, the scenarios you have. Right. Will help. So, and that's, and that's not going to, the self serve is more limited. It'll walk you through a few steps to explore and then confirm what rate you might want to be on. We have a really robust public website. So our website has a time of day page that has information about the program as a whole, about the individual rates, lots of tips. There's articles on there. And there's more, a few more informational videos now that just got posted actually on the, on the really good things to, to shift and save and things not to worry about. But. I was just curious if you had a suggestion as to what. But when you call the call center, if you're in a, and I would say really if you're having a more unique situation, you can tell, yeah, yeah, I use electricity different, I have different equipment than, you know, most of the people I know. So they can help you troubleshoot this. Just so to make it simpler, I have an electric stove. Yes. So I'm going to be in peak any time I want to cook dinner. Don't worry about your life. So, all right. Or if I have people in the house during the day. So electricity is going to be, I mean the air conditioner is going to be on during the day no matter what. I, you know, so raising it and lowering it, it needs to be a certain temperature for people in the house during the day. Right. And that's. When you go into the app, right, it recommends a plan based on your current usage. Yes. That, right. That's how it works. Yeah. Yeah. That's how it works. Your usage, your behaviors, how you're using the system today. So if you want to know exactly how based on how you, if you didn't change anything, there are some customers that are what we call structural winners technically. They're going to save because they're already doing things that benefit the great. Right. Lower the cost for all customers, right. So they're already using electricity in a way that's good for everyone. And therefore they can get those discounts immediately without changing anything. But in your case, you know, I would recommend pre-cooling and then raising that temperature. Just a few degrees. And that's why it's not shut off your air conditioners. It's not change your air condition by 10 degrees. It's two to three, four degrees, depending upon what your situation is. And for each degree, you'll just have a little bit more degrees. You pre-cool or especially, you know, raise that temperature during those hot periods, or it just changes the opposite during the winter. Right. You're going to. Does a PSEG still do like individual energy audits? I know at 1.10, they used to. So you can come to the house or you can call them and say, hey, look, what can I do to make my house more efficient? And that's a good thing. Our home comfort program is still available. Going to the, if you switch over to LEDs, it's incredible how much you can save on your electric bill just going with LEDs. Yeah. LEDs are a huge source. And weather sealing. If your home is drafty, it makes a big difference to seal those cracks. And these professionals can help you detect whether or not. You do have. A leaky home, if you will. Yeah. And can benefit from that additional sealing and insulation. And it becomes a much more efficient unit. It's not necessarily a ghost in your house when the curtains are moving back and forth on a windy night. So you need to tighten those things up. It's going on in your place. Should you take on commercial accounts in the future, could you please tell the supervisor that he should not make town hall hours from 10 p.m. to 6 p.m.? Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. Yeah. We could do the board meetings at about 4 in the morning. We could save on electricity. I see you coming. The press wouldn't be here to report on our misdoings, and it would all be good for us. Well, worst case, they have to end by 3 o'clock. Yeah, I guess that's it. Every other home is great. 7 to 3 instead of whatever, and a 5. I like that. Good thought, Mr. Roth. I think there's another slide or two. We can skip this one. I think we covered it. Yeah, I kind of covered it. And then customers that are eligible for kind of damage, kind of like the flip of before, but if you do have life support equipment, we're not excluding you from being included in the program. A lot of heat rates, if you want to switch over from a heat rate, you're eligible to as well. We had the voluntary time of use rates before, like kind of like trial stuff that we were doing before. So those customers are also eligible. And household assistant rate customers as well. I think the thing to note with these customers is we're doing the migrations. As we talked about, these customers, I believe, all of them will not be part of our migrations, which we have started actually this month. So you can go to the next slide. So we started auto migrations. We started about a weekend at this point, maybe a touch more, where we're migrating our first group of customers. First group is. Just under 31,000 customers. It's got a nice mix. We have some EV customers. We have solar customers in there, just regular general use customers. And we're communicating a lot with the customers to let them know. So we're sending out 90 day, 60 day, 30 day communications before they migrate. So they know they're coming. There's information in the communications so they can get to our websites. If they choose, they don't want to even try the rate. We actually have like QR codes on there. They can actually scan the code. And opt out, or they can even mail in a postcard to our office and we'll, we'll take them out of the migration. So it's been very successful. I think we're probably about like 98% of the customers that were targeted for migration were going to did not opt out. I think it's only like 2% that maybe opted out before we started the migration. So we have our first mass migration going. Now we're going to cool off over the next six months until January. See how the program went. Feedback from customers. We'll be sending out post communications to customers. How you can improve. What you can do. We have different home energy reports that are going to go out to our customers as well. And show them. This is what you're using in this. This window of usage for, you know, this is your peak. This is your off-peak. Your super off-peak. Maybe you can move some stuff. Some tips on there as well. We have a whole website with all sorts of specific tips to each customer. So we should help them guide and see what they need to do. And then over the course of the next year, we plan on migrating pretty much the rest of our customer base over the year. 2025. And 2026. Yeah. Yeah. Less than. Seeking over, right? So. And if we have residents that aren't actually iPhone savvy or computer savvy, they can call. They can always call. They can be walked through these steps with somebody at the health center. Yeah. Absolutely. I just want to make sure people understand. I know this is not what you're doing. But I know in some parts of the country they have programs. Yeah. They have programs. People opt into these energy saving programs. And once they use their allotted electricity, they don't get any more. Like they can't raise their heat or their AC at different times of the year. And I know that's not what you're doing. Correct? Yeah. This is not. I just want to make sure people realize that's not what you're doing. Yeah. This is not a fixed bill. Right. That is contained. Just like the old cell phone plans. Right. Where you got cut off after a certain number of minutes. Right. Yeah. I know in Colorado that happens to people. This is just differential pricing. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So when you take advantage of those lower cost times. Right. But listen, if you use less electricity, we have a lot of, as you mentioned, the weatherization programs are energy efficiency programs. That saves all hours of the day, which will also benefit on the time of use rate. But that's lowering your bill as a whole for things like weatherization, LED lights, more efficient stoves, and moving to heat pumps from oil. Right. And the advanced technologies really come far in the last few years on heat pumps. So there are cold weather heat pumps that are now- Geothermal. And geothermal. There's lots and lots of energy efficiency opportunities to be more efficient with your total energy costs and shift from natural fuels that may cost more, like oil, to electricity. And reducing the carbon emissions. And reducing the amount of electricity you're using as a whole. Absolutely. Yeah. Next slide. I think this just kind of shows some of the communications. Does it help? Yeah. [transcription gap] Is there a time coming when you're going to be able to automatically adjust people's rates so as to lower rates? Just given the fact that your costs go up to generate electricity, wouldn't that be in your interest to going down that path at all? It's not something that I'm familiar with, but I can see if just in just thinking about the challenges are that what is a customer going to want to do versus what did they do? And that's in part this rate comparison tool where we're really clear on what is and isn't. What you did do in the past, that's your starting point, but am I buying an EV this year? Can I change the way I'm using the electricity in my home to benefit myself? That's one of those things that's hard to then tell a customer. We do have an A standard rate and that's why we do have a default rate because we have to start a new account somewhere. And that's what we're doing here. We're figuring out what's going to happen. We've changed our standard rate from being a flat rate to a time of day rate. And then we're moving our customers that were on that old standard rate to the new standard rate with leaving the options open for those customers so that they can make informed choices, but try it out and then make informed choices. So I don't know is the real answer, but not in the short term. So I just want to commend PSE&G. When you guys took over, I'll say this, there was so much, like hardly any power outages. Yeah. In comparison to whoever was doing it prior. That's one. Second question I have is do you anticipate with wind power the cost of electricity going up in order to pay for the infrastructure for wind power? So LIPA contracts with the wind farm operators at some predetermined rate. The infrastructure that connects the wind farms to the grid is paid for by the wind farm operators. There are upgrades to the grid and things like that that are shared between LIPA and we also have in the developers. There's also some state driven, some ISO driven upgrades as well. It's actually shared statewide. Everybody in the state pays a little bit. So those costs are being distributed amongst. They're going to be advertised because I know in smaller places where this has been done, you know, people were like, oh, we're going to have to pay for this. People were like all happy to have it but their electric rates went way up. Not, you know, so that's why I asked the question and I understand it's going to get advertised throughout the state. I appreciate that. Dave also just touched base with what you said, Bob. PSEG is a lot more user friendly and they send out notices all the time, especially with impending storms. Yeah. Residents get stuff and they know who to call, what number to call. And an outage. And I'll give you a quick example. I live 500 feet off the road. And so the poles coming back to my house, the last one has a 13,500 volt transformer on it. And I have a lot of squirrels. Well, I have less squirrels now. Because they play on that line all the time and you hear the pop and you lose electricity and I call the number and they get right back to you with an ETA and when they expect to have it finished. And it's just kind of nice knowing that. You know, that you didn't make a call and you never hear from anybody again until somebody eventually shows up. Well, their response time is quick and they're telling you, you know, exactly what to expect. So I have a little squirrel cemetery out there where they all go. And they put a cap on it too. But they still manage to get it. Yeah, it's amazing. Hey, guys, have a great day. Come a long way. As we get notices, you know, through text. Yeah. You know, if there's an outage. I commend you on what you've done. And I hope that state changes their mind and keeps you guys on board. What can I say? Thank you. Tell your friends and neighbors. We appreciate that recognition. Because from day one, I was on with the team since day one. Yeah, it's been a whole day. Improved storm response, resiliency. Unbelievable. Coming at a customer-centric utility offering, choices and options and opportunities to save energy and money has been the focus we've done. And I am very proud of the work we've done over the last ten years. Absolutely. Thank you for sharing that. Absolutely. I get a little bit apprehensive. Like, what happens when you guys are not there and then the service declines? Especially in storms, outages. And you guys immediately trim all the trees. As soon as you got in, I noticed you, like, were trimming all the trees. Because I'm proactive. You're being proactive. Yeah. So we're actually the number one rated overhead utility in the state for reliability. That's probably why the state wants to get rid of it. And we have the lowest complaint rate as well. Right. But thank you. Thank you guys for coming in. This was very informative. I loved it when you explained it to me a while back. And I'm glad you guys decided to come in so our public gets a better idea of what they can do to save some money and how to work with PSCG and how PSCG is working with the residents. Yeah, we appreciate the opportunity to come in and make a presentation. I know it's on your website and people can watch the video and learn a little more as well. Good. Excellent. Diane, thank you so much. Thank you. [transcription gap] Thank you so much, Sean. Happy Father's Day to anybody. Bill, thank you for everything you've been doing. You're welcome. Look how good you're doing. Thank you. One other quick thing. And thank you for the grants that you're doing for small businesses and the support of Gradual Park. I really appreciated that. The town, I didn't have to speak. They've been a very good example. I didn't have to speak. I didn't have to talk about this. [transcription gap] you know, the town, I can speak. They've been a very good supporter of a lot of our programs in town. Yeah, appreciate it. It's good stuff. Downtown is just one of our big programs. Yeah, that's really fantastic. Thank you. Thank you, gentlemen. Thank you. [transcription gap] I actually don't, is that Brian? Okay, next up we have matters surrounding possible code amendment to chapter 255 related to food trucks. And we're gonna ask Ms. Credente. Mr. Charters. And Liam Keating with the Fire Marshal's Office. To Connor. No way to go. No way to go. Danbury's holding me to a five minute time period. Okay. Very fast. I would watch it. I prefer two. To be quite honest. All right, so very briefly. Good morning. Good morning, everybody. Good morning. So this is work through code revision as Captain Rothenberg's aware, probably for about the last two years. Two years it's been on and off. But yeah, we're finally in a good position I think to get this moving forward. So this will be amendments to chapter 257, which the town board's aware of. This is our peddling and soliciting section. So we figured that was the best area to add food trucks. So what this amendment does is, as you see, first page 257 adds a definition for a food truck and a food truck operator. The real nitty gritty comes a little further. 257 which is permitted activities. That's gonna regulate how this will function. So. By doing this amendment will allow for the operation of one food truck as defined in the code, where the principal use of the property is a restaurant, brewery, farm brewery, distillery, vineyard, et cetera. And then the siting of multiple food trucks on a single property shall require the filing and approval of a 255 permit. So we, I really worked through this with Anne Marie in the past couple days, because we want to ensure that there's not a proliferation of these big food truck events, stuff like that. So basically if you have one of these businesses, you can come in and have one food truck on your property because you're eating, you're drinking, tasting wine all day, tasting cider, doing that. You should probably have something to eat. So just, I think the initial, if we can just take a second. Just initially, like, there was hesitation early on because we, you know, in support of all the restaurants that are leasing, paying taxes, ownership, all these things, we didn't want food trucks to suddenly come in and surround and be like, hey, we have less overhead in here. We're trying to impact your restaurant business. So I think that was always the initial hesitation, but there are, you know, there's a lot of things that we can do. We're trying to make sure that we're not, you know, there are places in which you can go to vineyards along Sound Avenue and where you're gathering where a food truck in that particular location doesn't, I don't feel, directly impact, you know, a restaurant down on Main Street, you know, and we do want people to put something in their stomach. If you're going to have a glass of wine, it is good common sense to have some food along with it. And then, and they don't have the infrastructure on hand to essentially build another restaurant or something outside. So it certainly makes it more cost, you know, cheaper cost for a food truck. And then, you know, for customers and so forth, to simply to get something right there on site, you know, and just so, so I think that was like, so when I say, Liam has been awesome working on this, because I've been Matt for two years, but it was like, we wanted to go out, wanted to talk to some restaurant owners. We got to feel like, how do we feel? We approach this slow, cautiously, but I think it's a great program, and I think you found very unique ways to go into a little bit towards how trucks can actually come here and get inspected to get things as much as easy as possible. So then that will not put an overburden on our fire marshals, but it will make it easier for the fire marshals to come in and get inspected. And then, you know, we have a lot of people in the general public service office as well that they got to, so they go around and make these rounds. It's easier in the beginning of the season. Like a live and 25, all these food trucks, they can probably come right here to the parking lot, right, Liam? And then they can get inspected here, and you can do a couple in a row, and it makes it a lot more cohesive. Yeah. So just moving through this, it'll work similar to how peddlers get their license, although the clerk's office get a license that way. For a food truck, they'll obviously have to submit, you know, some sort of permit from the health department, because there's a separate health department application that allows them to comply with the fire code, which Liam's going to talk about briefly in a second. And then just moving on to the specific restrictions for food trucks, which that's under 257 . So that's all the new stuff. Can operate between 9 p.m. and 5 a.m., have to be a minimum of 500 feet from the main entrance of any eating establishment or similar food service business or an outdoor seating area for a food service, unless they own that restaurant. So that's what Councilman Rothwell was alluding to. Okay. So they're not directly competing with the restaurant. And it's not just a food truck on the corner of Sound Avenue, not affiliated with any other setting or, you know. And we're not going to have random hot dog trucks set up on the side of the road. That was the whole purpose, I think, when this was put in many, many years ago. We didn't want that look, and that's not what this is about. Yeah. And that was a tough decision, Supervisor, because I love those hot dog trucks. Dirty dogs. Dirty dogs. Yeah. So they can't operate in a public right of way or municipal parking unless expressly permitted by the town board. Can't operate in a park or beach or marina or other recreation facility unless they get that license, which, you know, we do sometimes. Right. If they're participating in the 255 event, obviously the setback restrictions wouldn't apply over time. They have to have permission from the property owner, be parked on an improved service, and most importantly, this was an add-on as we went through, have to be in a, you know, not taking up required parking that will cause the business to go under their parking requirements. So we want to make sure that their parking on site is not taking up actual parking. And you said the time is from 9 to 5? That they can't, yeah, they can't operate between 9 p.m. and 5 a.m. Okay. Sorry. I thought you were saying between 9. Original thought of food trucks across the nation, and I'm pretty well read in this, there was a lot of concern from the brick and mortar restaurants, obviously, which made sense. But the brick and mortars have adjusted to it by many of these food trucks are from a brick and mortar restaurant. They're just taking their food out on the road, and it was smart of them to do that. Also, here in Suffolk County, the Department of Health requires that a food truck has to prepare its food at what they call a commissary. And a commissary is a place that is previously approved by the Department of Health to prepare food. So maybe I'm setting my food truck up, but I'm renting space at the local deli to cook my food in the evenings and prepare everything and just put it on my truck. So in a sense, you're not hurting everybody out there. Even the deli who doesn't have a food truck may be renting their kitchen out after hours to, as a commissary that's approved through the Department of Health. So there is a lot of benefit out there for this. We're not looking to hurt brick and mortars or individual stores, but it just, it gives people more variety and another option. And I think this is a smart thing to do. They're here. They're everywhere. Let's regulate them. So let's regulate them, and we get them in, we inspect them. We feel comfortable with, you know, knowing they've been inspected by us. And I think it's a win-win. Absolutely right. It gives an opportunity for that restaurant downtown in Main Street to team up with somebody on Sound Avenue and make themselves more financially strong. Absolutely. This is great. I'm glad this finally came to fruition. And then on our end, obviously to go with the zoning code, we're going to, we're doing an amendment to add Chapter 231-68, which requires the permit, the permitting process, which we've built. We've got a couple of towns, Brookhaven, Smithtown, they've also kind of created their own program. So we're kind of modeling it between them, Nassau County. And doing a permitting process, we defined kind of what the mobile food preparation vehicle in the state fire code is what it's called and how that's how it relates to food trucks. And then, yeah, we've kind of come up with the, we're still in the works of creating a permitting process specifically, but like Councilman Rothwell said, that we're going to do a specific day where they can come off-peak hours when they're not. And then come and get a full inspection with all their paperwork. We'll build a file for them. And every year it will get a little bit easier for them. And then we'll give, we'll issue them a permit. And then that will create less of a draw in the fire marshal's office for cursory inspections that will live on 25. So we're not going through every little piece of equipment they have. It's a quick inspection that, oh, you got your fire extinguishers. Great, great job. Here's your sticker. Yeah. Have a great event. So it makes it a little bit easier on us. Yeah, absolutely. We created the permitting piece to it as well to go with the zoning. So that's pretty much it. Perfect. Great job, Liam. Good, good, good. Good. Perfect. Yeah. So if you guys are comfortable, we'll get this forward to Publish and Post and have a public hearing. Absolutely. Four minutes, 59 seconds. Oh, excellent. Excellent. Good work. Thank you, folks. Thanks.

Okay. That completes our open session. We're going to now move on to our resolutions. And Ms. Devon, if you wouldn't mind coming up and reading off the resolutions. Okay. You ready to go? You ready? Get it. Okay. Okay. Let's do it. Resolution number one, ratifies authorization for designated alcohol service vendors to serve alcohol at the 2024 Alive on 25 Street Festival. Perfect. Number two, rejects bids for residential solid waste collection and disposal service and authorizes the town clerk to publish and post notice to bidders for re-bid for residential solid waste collection and disposal service. Just in a nutshell, after we got the bids in, we realized we wanted to try a little bit different way for this. Right. And in order to do that, we had to go out to re-bid. So that's what this is about. And the new bid specs will be on the website as of June 27th for folks out there who may be interested. Okay. Perfect. Number three, ratifies award of bid for street light and traffic signal repair parts. Number four, approves affordable cesspool sewer and drain service ink as a drain layer for the Riverhead Sewer District. Number five, appoints a seasonal recreation leader to the recreation department. Number six, reappoints members to recreation advisory committee, Patrick Nanny and Gabrielson. Thank you, Frank and George, for continuing to do that. And number seven, approve special event chapter 255 application for Iglesia Familia de Dios religious service. This is something they've done in the past over here in the parking lot by the railroad station. Number eight, appoints new seasonal beach employees to the recreation department. Number nine, authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to consider a local law to amend chapter 301 of the Riverhead Town Code entitled zoning and land development section 253 thereof entitled prohibited signs. That's related to the barbershop poles that we spoke about. Yep. Number 10, ratifies the appointment of a seasonal recreation aid to the recreation department. Okay. Number 11, town hall LED lighting conversion project. Save some money. That's right. Number 12, ratifies and accepts the resignation of a traffic control specialist. Number 13, schedules public hearing for the special permit application of 4592 Middle Country Road to construct a two-family dwelling, 4592 Middle Country Road, Calvinton, New York, Suffolk County tax map number 600-97-1-79.1. Thank you. [transcription gap] Just going back to the last one, the resignation of a traffic control specialist. I just want to thank Remy Bell. He has worked for a number of years for us doing this position. So we appreciate all the work he's done and wishing the best in the future. That's right. And resolution number 14, sewer district capital project number 24002 budget adjustment and closure. Number 15. So just a note. SO NUMBER 26 REALLY SEQUENTIALLY SHOULD HAPPEN BEFORE 15. BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO THEM OUT OF ORDER JUST TO FOLLOW THE NUMBER THAT YOU GUYS ALL HAVE. BUT GOING FORWARD WE'LL CHANGE THE SEQUENCE AROUND. SO NUMBER 15, AUTHORIZES TOWN CLERK TO PUBLISH AND POST NOTICE FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION ENTITLED HILDRITH REAL ESTATE ADVISORS CALVERTON 1001 SCOTT AVENUE CALVERTON SUFFOLK TAX MAP NUMBER 600-135-1. AND THAT PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE ON JULY 16. NUMBER 16, RATIFIES THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE SUPERVISOR TO EXECUTE AN MOA WITH CSCA LOCAL 1000 AFSCME AFL-CIO RIVERHEAD UNIT OF THE SUFFOLK LOCAL 852. AND I THINK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY WANTS TO JUST MAKE A QUICK STATEMENT ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION. YES. SO THIS RESOLUTION INCLUDES THE FORMAL RECOGNITION OF THE JUNE 10TH HOLIDAY. OBVIOUSLY, THIS RESOLUTION WON'T BE ADOPTED FORMALLY BY THIS BOARD. IT'S ANTICIPATED AT THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS JUNE 18TH. SO I THINK THE PLAN IS THAT TOWN HALL WILL BE CLOSED AND EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR ESSENTIAL FACILITIES WILL BE CLOSED ON THE 19TH. EMPLOYEES AND RESIDENTS SHOULD JUST, I GUESS, PAY ATTENTION TO THE JUNE 18TH MEETING TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT RESOLUTION GETS ADOPTED TO CONCLUDE THE TOWN HALL. I CONFIRM THAT TOWN HALL WILL BE CLOSED ON THE FOLLOWING DAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. RESOLUTION NUMBER 17 AUTHORIZES THE REMOVAL OF FIXED ASSETS. NUMBER 18 AUTHORIZES THE EXECUTION OF A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF RIVERHEAD AND THE NEW YORK STATE OFFICE OF PARKS, RECREATION AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION, OPRHP, FOR A GRANT AWARD FOR UP TO $500,000 FOR THE RIVERFRONT ADAPTIVE CHILDREN'S PLAYGROUND. NUMBER 19 RATIFIES AUTHORIZATION TO DESIGNATE ALCOHOL SERVICE VENDOR TO SERVE ALCOHOL AT THE REFLECTIONS ART IN THE PARK EXPERIENCE IN THE MILTON L. BURNS PARK, GRANGEVILLE PARK, BACONIC AVENUE, RIVERHEAD, NEW YORK. YOU GOT TO GET DOWN TO REFLECTIONS. THEY'RE GOING TO BE MOVING THE HUGE TURTLE THAT WAS JUST UNVEILED AT THE AQUARIUM. IT'S GORGEOUS. AND WHEN IT'S LIT UP AT NIGHT, IT'S INCREDIBLE. SO IT'S ONE MORE PIECE IN GRANGEVILLE PARK THAT REFLECTIONS IS ADDING THAT IS GOING TO JUST TRANSFORM THAT PARK INTO A LITTLE ARTIST'S HAVEN, WHICH IS AWESOME. PRETTY COOL. RESOLUTION NUMBER 20 AMENDS TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT OF A DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY. NUMBER 21 APPROVES FIREWORKS APPLICATION FOR RIVERHEAD RACEWAY, AUGUST 10, 2024. NUMBER 22 APPROVES FIREWORKS APPLICATION FOR RIVERHEAD RACEWAY, JUNE 29, 2024. NUMBER 23 RATIFIES THE APPOINTMENT OF A SENIOR CITIZEN AID. NUMBER 24 APPROVES SPECIAL EVENT CHAPTER 255 APPLICATION FOR RIVERHEAD FOUNDATION FOR MARINE RESEARCH RUN FOR THE RIDLEY 5K. NUMBER 25 APPROVES SPECIAL EVENT CHAPTER 255 APPLICATION FOR WATER DRINKER FARM GARLIC FEST. NUMBER 26 ASSUMES LEAD AGENCY AND ISSUES NEGATIVE DECLARATION PURSUANT TO SECRET FOR THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION ENTITLED HILDROTH REAL ESTATE ADVISORS, CALVERTON, NEW YORK, 1001 SCOTT AVENUE, CALVERTON, SUFFOLK ANNING TAX MAP NUMBER 24. NUMEUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROUROURO 31. Grants preliminary approval for the 901-923 Berman Boulevard Commercial Warehouse Site Plan Application, 901 Berman Boulevard, Calverton, NY, Sub-Accounting Tax Back Number 600-135.1-1-3. 32. Amends Resolution 2024-533. 33. Authorizes Town Clerk to publish and post Notice of Public Hearing to accept recommendations of Community Preservation Fund Water Quality Improvement and Pollution Prevention Committee and amend Community Preservation Fund Project Plan adopted on August 3, 2021 by Local Law 7-2021. And just a quick point for the Town Board. You recall at the last Town Board meeting, you guys approved to publish and post to establish the CPF Water Quality Improvement and Pollution Prevention Committee. That public hearing is going to take place at the next Town Board meeting. So we're going to recommend that the Town Board consider a simultaneous adoption of that resolution to make way for this public hearing, which is going to take place on July 2. And that's it for your resolutions. All right? Thank you, Debbie. Okay. That's all we have for open session. In a moment, I will be leaving. I'm looking to close the Town Board meeting and go into executive session where we will be discussing under contractual matters surrounding a possible MOA or STIP with Stripland, Teo, and Howard. Under personnel matters, it will be matters surrounding possible disciplinary action of an employee with Howard. And under legal matters, it will be matters surrounding possible litigation with Prudente. At this time, I'd like to make a motion to close the work session and go into executive session. So moved. Second. All in favor, aye. Aye. All opposed. Okay. Work session is closed. We will be entering into executive session. Everybody have a great weekend and happy Father's Day. Happy Father's Day. Happy Father's Day. [transcription gap] [transcription gap]