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Thank you. [transcription gap] Thank you, Bob. Pleasure. Okay, we have a little hodgepodge of meetings today. What we're going to do is we're in open session right at the moment. In a second, I'm going to ask for us to close open session and go into executive session for a personnel matter, matter surrounding the hiring of an employee. And then after that, we will come back down, open session again, and then after that open session, we're going to close again and go into executive session. This is due because of timing restraints we have for certain people attending today. So at this time, I would like to ask for a motion to close open session and go into executive session. I just have to say that I think it would be quite interesting if I showed up for an interview with you, Treslin. Well, you know what? I thought about that. And I think quite honestly that if you're being interviewed for a position, you're going to say, I really want to work for the town. Those people have fun. So that's where I was going with this. But anyway, I hope I don't scare anybody off. But in the meantime, and I am the biggest leprechaun that anybody has ever seen, but big leprechauns bring big amount of luck. Big pots of gold. That's where we're at. Yes, big pots of gold. So, okay, we have a motion and a second. All in favor? Aye. Okay. Open session is closed. We will now retire to executive session. And we will be back shortly to open up again. Thank you. Thank you.
Good morning, everybody. It's Thursday, October 31st. And we are back from executive session. We are now going back into open session. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to start out with prior to our first open session matter. I would like to ask Andrew Smith and Chief J.R. Retton to come on up front to the table.
Good morning. Good morning. Good morning, sir. Good morning, chief. Chief, how are you? Good. Good? Hi. Well, many of you may have heard there was a recent incident involving a fuel tanker truck that was on fire on East Main Street. Most are unlikely aware of the heroics and quick thinking on the part of many that together averted a major disaster. So we invited Town of Riverhead Fire Marshal Andrew Smith and Riverhead Fire Department Chief J.R. Retton to come and just take us through the events that transpired that night and how lucky it ended up and how bad it could have been. Well, as you heard, we got the call of a tanker fire, and they said it was at the gas station on East Main Street across from the Elks. So as I was responding, I told them, I took Sunrise down because that's taking me right out there. I got down there. There was a couple of cars stopped. Got to the intersection. I looked to my left, and there was a fully involved tanker. I couldn't even see the tanker. Pulled up, called up, said it was a working fire. Notified them where the location was, and then just started thinking. Then second assistant chief Sean Brenner showed up, tried to get a little game plan together. He told me I took the fire. I took the hydrants, the trucks, so we can get everything knocked down. And then as we were cooling the tanker, I noticed that the water was running off and the tires were going out. So we thought for a second, so we just hit the tires. Knocked the fire down on the tires. We got a guy with a thermal engine camera, checked it all out. It was cooling down really quick and knocked the fire down well. And then we got everything all cleaned up. Kind of organized and shut all the water down to see if there was any leaks. And we kind of looked into the puddles. There was no rainbows. Got lucky and, you know, everybody, we had really good response from the guys. The guys, you know, Sean took care of the trucks coming in, hooking up the hydrants, hooking up to each other. The guys worked well together. PD assisted with, you know, stopping traffic. And, you know, it just, it was, we were very lucky. This tanker was loaded with fuel, correct? Yeah, it was completely full. Completely full. Full with gasoline. 12,000 gallons. 12,000 gallons of gasoline. And it was like 10,500 gasoline and there was a compartment with 1,500 diesel. Diesel. And actually, well, maybe, we were kind of lucky it was full. There was no room for fumes and vapors. Right. So we cooled it down and it... They did an excellent job. They knocked it. You know, I was on the radio with them coming from Calverton. By the time I got there, they had it cooled down to 70 degrees, which I knew we were out of the woods. We were good. And all we had to do, we stayed on scene for a couple of days. We stayed on scene for a couple more hours, right? We had to pump all the fuel off of the one truck into another. And Riverhead Fire Department stood by for that operation also with the fire marshal. So it was good. They really made a good stop. It could have been bad. If that got any worse, we would have had to, I drew a little map for you to see. We would have had to evacuate that whole area and let it burn for hours. Now, my understanding is this actually caught on fire at the gas station. Yes. And the driver... The driver took it. ...had the referral to jump in. And he drove down... And get it away from the gas station as far as he could before he had to bail out of the truck too. How incredibly brave when you said that. Yeah, it's scary. And that he went and got treatment because he thought he was having a heart attack, right? Yes. I don't blame him, man. Yeah. It was incredibly brave of him with the truck on fire. It was... We were very lucky. And everybody, Riverhead Fire Department, the police department, everybody involved, the ambulance was there, everybody. We worked well together. And like you said, we got lucky. And it worked out. You know, we had to... All they do is pump it off. I think we were home by, I don't know, quarter to 11, something like that. But it was worth it. It was... You know, everybody was safe. That's the most important thing. Everybody went home. That was a tremendous save. I got to tell you, 32 years as a cop, I carry a gun. I'm not afraid of going into a gunfight. But I see fire, something about fire, I want to go the other way. And a tanker filled with fumes. You guys, I can't say enough about the men and women of the fire department that went and knocked this down. And somebody's standing there with an infrared getting... You know, the temperatures off of 10,000 gallons of gasoline that, God forbid, if it goes, everybody there is going to go with it. And the bravery that was shown that night is incredible. And the way you guys acted so swiftly. It's just kudos to our men and women of the fire department. We got a good group. We had a really good group. We do a lot of training. And you can never really train for anything like this. It just... Everything came together. Right. You know. Like I said, everybody just worked together well. Riverhead Fire Department, of course, I'm the chief, but they're the best. We're the best. You know, the PD was there. Ambulance was there. Everybody just works together. Chief, how did it start? I did the fire investigation, actually. The brake system failed in the rear wheels, which made the calipers lock up onto the rim. So it actually started in the rear wheels. So we've got to say, once again, thank you. And thank you to all the members of the department. And please share our appreciation to everything you guys do and put your lives at risk. So thank you. Excellent job, as always. Yes. Thank you very much. You averted a major disaster. I'm forever thankful for that. To be honest, I was telling Andrew after it was over, as we're going through this, I'm thinking, who do I... Do we get evacuated? You know. Andrew, where are you? Get here quick. Get here quick, Andrew. I'm going to turn it over to the fire marshal. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. When you're chief, there's nobody to look up to. You're it. Like I said, the guys and girls, everybody did a great job. Thank you. Thank you. And we avoided. Yeah. Sometimes it's ugly, lucky, then good. Yes. Absolutely. Well, kudos to everybody. And we thank you for taking time out to come in today and discuss it. And we just want the public to know the work that goes on behind the scenes. And this was tremendous. So thank you again so much. Thank you. Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Have a great day, guys. Thank you. You too. Take care. Yes. Well, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. We are now going to go into open session. And first item up is, I'll tell you in just a second, as soon as I put my glasses on. Matter surrounding Huddle for Hunger Initiative in collaboration with the Anti-Bias Task Force, PAL, and the ReVED Recreation Department. Bob Kern. Mark M. Kay. And we have Liz. Liz. I can't. Yeah. Liz. Good morning. [transcription gap] Hello there. Hi. Hi. Good to see you. You good? Can I pass these down for you? Thank you. You're welcome. I'm thinking maybe we can put one right here in the middle and maybe we can get a camera shot on this. Thank you, Mark. I love that. I like this sit. Good morning. A heartfelt thank you to our town supervisor, Tim McCarver, and to the city of Huddle. I'm going to take a few minutes to thank you. 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We are grateful to our many partners who have united to make this event impactful. The Riverhead Rotary Club is our proud sponsor, working alongside us to distribute donations. We are also grateful for the support of our Riverhead Anti-Bias Task Force. Our Riverhead PAL and our Riverhead Recreation Department, with Chief Frost offering invaluable assistance to the cause. Our official media sponsor is News 12. Our coverage starts this week. Join us in raising awareness. We are thrilled to welcome Super Bowl champion Gary Brown from the Green Bay Packers, who will be signing autographs. We warmly invite our firefighters. And the ambulance workers, town hall employees, and residents throughout Riverhead to join the fun community-spirited event that day. A special thank you to our True North Community Church in Bohemia for their generous donation of two pallets of non-perishable goods, which will allow us to reach even more families in need this holiday season. Before I introduce Liz to speak, I just want to say, thank you so much for joining us. When I got word that some of our pantries were running out of food, it prompted me. Gwen Mack, I think we all know Gwen Mack, she's just one of them. I've even spoken to First Baptist Church and notified them about it. It just prompted me to say, you know, I know we have our mission statement as the Anti-Bias Task Force, but Mark McLaughlin, prior to me coming to this beautiful town of Riverhead, I've held fundraising events for food. But those food are not for me. I'm here to help. I'm here to clear up those in need with TGIF, Fridays, with the Colon Cancer Foundation. And it's very warming to me to bring this initiative here now, and have the support of our Riverhead Anti-Bias Task Force, our Rec Department, our PAL, our police chief and police department, Rotary Club, and so many others. And I'm just looking forward to seeing these kids play flag football, and raising canned goods, and non-perishable goods. for those in need. We're just looking to make it a fun event that the community can contribute, refill these food pantries. We're looking to bring in some local restaurants to maybe have some type of wing off. I'm going to be approaching some people today just to add a little bit to the event. And we're also hosting a community yard sale that's themed for sporting equipment, sports memorabilia. So we could really use help getting the word out on that too. We have a few participants set up already, but we'd like to make it a little bit larger. So when people come to the event, we have the flag football, we have the community yard sale, we have a wing off that we can crown King, Queen, Wing of Riverhead. Because the theme is food, and we've incorporated football. And it all just seems like it's going to be a really nice Saturday. Excellent. I'm just going to say, I remember when you brought this idea. And I'm so glad everybody was, you've been great. Everybody just connected. The PAL has been great. I don't know who was on that Zoom. It was, I know Mike. Who was the other guy? Mike, it was also the assistant director of the PAL, Xavier. Yeah, he was. And the Riverhead School District. I've got to say, the Riverhead School District, they've been pushing this event as well. This is great. So I just want to give them a shout out also. Oh, and the other thing, what I really like, because I like to see this as the other side of this, is in Spanish. Yes, we do. Which is fantastic. All inclusive. Great. All inclusive. Great. Also, with it being my first year running as the chairman of the Antibiotics Task Force, I just want to say thank you again. Can't accept my resume when I initially. You're doing a great job. No, so I just want to put that out there. And thank you again for allowing us to introduce this event to you. This is a great idea. I hope it's totally successful. I don't know why it wouldn't be. And Mark, we can't stress enough that the food pantries are hurting. People are hurting. So when people are hurting, the food pantries are hurting. So if you can come down and donate something to this endeavor, it would much be appreciated for so many people in our community. So this is an awesome, awesome event. So much. I appreciate that, Supervisor Hubbard, so much. We appreciate it. True North Star Church, they're helping families right now in Florida with that devastation that happened. But they're still taking time. They know that this is important to us. So they're doing exactly what you mentioned. They're helping our local communities and our residents and our pantries. Absolutely. Absolutely. Again, it's Saturday, November 9th at Stotsky Park. And it starts at 10 a.m. And it goes from, our registration begins at 10. And the games start between 11 and 2. Any idea how many teams are registered so far? Mike is doing a great job with getting a lot of the PEL members. We're going to have from 5 to 11-year-olds. I think that whole section. And the older adults are going to come and support because they have a game actually that night. So they don't want to, you know, so. Right. So we're going to wear them out too much. Yeah, but if they want to partake, you know, that opportunity is there. I mean, we have a halftime show. Oh, wow. You know, a little band coming through. You know, so. Yeah. Is Gary going to play? But I'm hoping Gary. I'm hoping Gary coaches. I want him on my team. We all throw the ball to Bob and let him let Gary go after him. Obviously. You know, Gary's a big guy. Don't you see how they love me? Gary was a massive running back back in the day. Yes. So this is for girls and boys and men and women. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. I look forward to seeing the participation of all the residents and, you know, the community coming out and cheering everybody on. I think it's going to be a great, great family day. Agreed. Agreed. Thank you so much for coming in and announcing. Thank you for your time. Thank you so much. We appreciate it. Thank you. We'll see if we can. I don't think this conflicts with anything. I'm not sure. We'll check to see if we can't just keep this. Get this on channel 22. Because we're not. We'll find out. Yeah. Yeah. I don't. Going out through the recreation. Social media as well. Yep. So. Yeah. I don't see any reason why we couldn't. Okay. You guys do a phenomenal job with yourself. Yeah. I'm just going to tell you. That's Becky. Phenomenal. Good stuff. The players will be in action. Riverhead in action. Yes. Excellent. There you go. Absolutely. Thanks. [transcription gap] That's right. You got to interview yourself. Mark. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you again. Thank you. [transcription gap] Okay. Next up. We have matters surrounding discussion on draft codes. Related to 301 for proposed CI and LI districts. And the TDR sending areas. And we're going to have. Heather when you walked in before. Did not recognize you. I. I love you. Wait. Blonde hair. Hubbard Thomas. Bergman. Trotters. And Trojanowski. And I thought the dog was real when I. What's. Got it. What's with the. Hose. Lotion. It puts the lotion in the basket. Or else it gets the hose again. Oh. That's what we are. Okay. There's candy in here. There's candy in here. Okay. This is turning into a fun day. It's Halloween work session. All right. You got me yesterday with your new hairdo. And then today you walk in with this. I just. I like to mix it up. You're mixing it up good. Variety is the spice of life. So I guess. I don't know. I don't know. Who wants to lead off. We're here to kind of do a follow up discussion. About three weeks ago we presented the initial drafts for the industrial code amendments. Which are sort of the first step in the implementation of the updated comprehensive plan. Since we presented those to the town board I've had several discussions with a couple of town board members. There are some proposed tweaks to the code. That I know some board members. Are looking for. So we're just here to sort of get consensus. Just so the board knows. We are sort of in a. I don't want to say a precarious situation. But right now the moratorium for the industrial zones in Calvington has lapsed. So we're starting to get calls from applicants who have pending applications. They're obviously looking to move those forward. But right now until we adopt some type of code amendments. It's really unclear as to what direction we're giving those applicants. Some of these uses that have been already proposed. Would be effectively removed from the permitted uses tables. So we're just here to get some sort of direction and move forward. I know I've had several conversations with Dawn. She was around when we did the last round of updates after the 2004 comp plan. She can attest to the fact that it is a long grueling process. But it's better to get something on the books. And if we need to sort of tweak it later on we can do that. So the again obviously as presented. We're amending the Calvington industrial zoning districts. Industrial A and industrial C will be combined into the Calvington industrial district. There will be implementation of a light industrial zoning district north of 25. Around the Manor Road. That little sort of island of industrial zoning. We put together a list of the standard industrial classification use tables. Which removes. A lot of the ambiguity that we had with our old existing code. As you may recall. Yeah that from a from a zoning interpretation perspective. It just removes so much of the ambiguity. You know one of the I don't want to call it a loophole. But one of the sort of oversights with our old code. As the board may recall that industrial A zoning district said all industrial uses are permitted. With the exception of a and it provided a list of probably like two dozen exemptions of sort of like noxious industries. So that sort of leaves a leaves wiggle room for an application. That if it's not specifically on that prohibited list. It might be interpreted as. Correct. Through an interpretation of the zoning board. It is essentially a permitted use if it's an industrial use. So that SIC code really groups a lot of families together. Provides a lot clearer definitions of what these uses could be. As the board will recall we did add we're prohibiting in the Calvington industrial zoning district. And the light industrial zoning district. For prohibiting last mile fulfillment centers and truck terminals. Now Councilwoman Waski Dawn Heather and myself yesterday. We met with a few members of the civic associations. They had questions and obviously were aware that the residents of Calverton had significant concerns. About the high cube distribution centers high cube warehousing that sort of thing. Based on the incorporation of a definition of truck terminal. Which is a building or group of buildings on the same lot. Yeah I'm sorry page 22 of the industrial amendments packet. Truck terminal is defined as a building or group of buildings on the same lot. Used for the purpose of loading or unloading materials or goods from trucks. For the primary purpose of transferring materials and goods. Either for distribution or changing from one transportation carrier to another. So we've received a lot of comments from members of the public. They reference different. I.T.E. which is the Institute of Transportation Traffic Engineers. Land use codes dealing with that high cube warehousing. I'm fairly comfortable with that definition of truck terminal. Sort of covers all of those uses. So where we don't need to get as specific as to define specific land use I.T.E. codes. Very comfortable in saying you know if someone was proposing a 500,000 square foot building with. 60 truck loading bays on it. On either side of the building. It's fairly obvious that the purpose of that is the purpose of receiving goods transporting them and distributing them. So I believe that term truck terminal. Sort of is a overarching term to sort of capture and prohibit those uses in new zoning districts. Do you want me to bring up my. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So and Heather again thank you for continuing with the S.I.C. codes. Because one of the. And Greg you and I discussed this. And you I don't have. We talked about. Manufacturing. Right. But we didn't talk about was upcycling. And I know you thought that that could be captured in manufacturing. However I think it leaves a lot up to interpretation. So upcycling is basically the. Reuse. Of recycled materials. Where you get a greater value. From those materials. And the reason why. And your codes. Your S.I.C. codes that you identified are perfect. Because. Yeah. I don't. Not recycling though. Because when you put upcycling into S.I.C. it doesn't exist. It doesn't. And I'm not surprised. Because we're dealing with the federal government. And I don't. You know. Who knows when they're going to update things. But what you identified. Is. Meets the definition of upcycling. Because nobody's going to bring. Is going to buy plastic for example. And turn it into plastic benches. That's upcycling. That's an example. But. And when Greg and I had the discussion. And I respect. You know. What your S.O.S. Well. Manufacturing captures that. To me it leaves it. Too much open for interpretation. And I gave you some. Like if somebody wants to bring in glass. And they're going to. You're going to process it. Because they're going to use it into concrete. I don't want that looked at. That's not recycling. That is upcycling. So. I think. That's. [transcription gap] That's upcycling. Do you follow where I'm going with this? Yes. You can give me. You know. Do you remember what you gave me? Yeah. I have it up. So the S.I.C. Code again. It doesn't talk about upcycling. It won't. But. Or recycle for reuse. But when you put recycling in. It's. You know. Waste to recycling. Or recycling centers. And they talk about a family. You know. The family. S.I.C. Code 5. 5093-12 is a recycling center and it talks about it being you know scrap and waste materials from businesses individuals municipalities processing Selling those materials to manufacturers and other end-users the goal of these centers is to divert waste from landfills and promote Sustainability, but how the issue is is that recycling centers sort of covers a very vast Sort of amount of uses that includes, you know food waste recycling and then you have the issue of getting into like C&D recycling or processing and that's something that we don't want to see in a new Cowerton industrial district Who is we? I think that's the fundamental question that's posed to the board So incorporating these types of recycling uses within the CI or the light industrial zoning District, you know I think that's a fundamental policy question that the board needs to sort of weigh in on and consider is Do you want Calverton to become a recycling hub? You know, I think for the discussions I've had with councilman Kern There's an understanding that any business any use if they're manufacturing there's an understanding that they need raw materials to manufacture their goods You know whether you're you're manufacturing plastic benches. You're obviously gonna need plastic, you know, Eastern wholesale fence They bring in, you know Train loads of you know raw PVC pellets that are then processed and manufactured into that fencing product So there's an inherent understanding that manufacturing requires raw material but I think when you incorporate these types of recycling uses being that there's a lot of Ambiguity and vagueness to it. It could open the door to really turn Calverton into a recycling center Now that I think that's just that's the question that the board needs to consider and weigh in is do you want those types? Of uses to be in the CI or Li zoning district? I do not want to see those uses in that area You gave you you listed out specific Wasn't my list. It was SIC code. It's a youths family Yeah, so industry examples of recycling centers metal recycling paper recycling plastic recycling glass recycling electronics recycling battery recycling tire recycling textile recycling construction waste recycling and food waste recycling So that and that's also not exhaustive their examples No, I understand that and the reason why I bring this up, you know, and why I I think It's really important to explain the difference between a transfer station and somebody is actually recycling for reuse Nobody wants a transfer station. Well, I think when you are talking about these kinds of uses they're going to require a part 360 permit Which is a solid waste permit from the DC? to To take that solid waste from wherever it's coming whether it's food waste or things like that Once it hits a certain tonnage you're going to wind up needing a DC or 360 permit I need absolute certainty on that and I'll tell you what I'll give you an example take plastic All right, and I'll take glass And again, this is not a transfer station. This is taking material which is happening all over the place and in the state and And if it's plastic the difference between a pellet and a plastic bottle is you can take a plastic bottle and reduce it back down to a pellet and Then reuse it, right? I know you can That's what people and this is it's recycling for reuse. It's not taking in garbage and then Sending it out. But those are the that's that that's the point Heather's trying to make there that it is if if the waste stream is being Transitioned into a manufacturing product, you know manufacture of a product That's a recycling which falls under those categories, which is a broader Yeah, a broader definition, right if somebody takes aluminum and turns in it to something else. That's what I'm talking about I don't see like the food waste if you have a certain amount of food waste you need a part 360 permit front you if you want to bring in a certain amount of material so [transcription gap] so evidence of that can but over a certain over a certain cubic yard you need a part 360 permit from the DC so what was the benefit to the town be well you're getting industry period I mean that I mean that's what you know that's what you would get if somebody and I'm going to use the example I'm going to use parallel I was a parallel ization for example right that you're taking wood C and D so the transfer station has the wood they're delivering it to a facility that burns the wood changes it into either diesel fuel gasoline or creates energy back to the grid and you know I mean it's happening I don't know why we and actually I would like to see this in the PIP as well you know about heavy industrial use yeah you put you put you make it really does give me some examples when you say it's a heavy industrial use I need concrete examples of talking about a transfer station you're talking about trucks coming in and out of the area am i right how are power all of these materials getting that concrete or asphalt those are big heavy industrial uses that make a lot of noise and have other impact on so really more of a negative impact on our roadway all right they're heavily designed to be light industrial and to really know I mitigate the impacts that are clutch you know you have a chance opportunity to either approve or not approve and I do I think that this I think this needs to go into the PIP into Calvert in is into that count in inside the fence I don't know what's coming down the pipe but I'm going to tell you I want to be prepared because it's a huge upcycling is a growing industry that's all I'm talking about. I'm saying look if you guys don't want it well then you don't want it well doesn't light industrial area no and that's what we're discussing that's what I feel I can't say for certain there's a lot of we have the choice to deny a project if we believe it but that you know belongs in the PIP you know I would put this in the PIP change the PIP in fairness to the county it would certainly fit better I don't know so in fairness to the councilman I just think like some of the things that are that the future lies in you know I'm saying look if you guys don't want it then you don't want it and recycling and abilities and I always would like to see the town of Riverhead to be more self-sustaining you know maintaining things for ourselves. So it doesn't necessarily but if this is not in the industrial a industrial see if this is not where you feel certain things belong. Is there another place where we'd be working our way further down the road that you can say that there should be recycling. That Riverhead town can be self-sustaining. Because recycling is the future. So I don't want to say that. We here we're doing a master plan and new comprehensive plan, and guess what? We're taking recycling out of the code for the next 20 years, and we're not going to acknowledge it because it is the way of the future. Brookhaven landfill is closing, and it is going to be an enormous cost to what to do. So I'm not also discussing, oh, a transfer station, but I think we do need to have a place for ideas or at least means maybe by special permit that we can consider some of these operations. We're our own. Every resident, I would hope, every other week, puts their own glass and aluminum cans out and all their recyclables and set up hail, but currently we're just shipping it out. And so when do we become more self-sustained? When do we have something in our town? I have no interest in receiving New York City tonnage and other things out there, but I do want to find the appropriate place within our town for us to take care of ourselves and be self-sustaining so that we eventually can get down to a negative carbon footprint in the town of Riverhead. So I don't want to just see any potential recycling ideas just written off of the code and say, not in our town. Oh, and I don't think that's what this is. So where would it go? If the board was inclined as a policy decision to allow those types of uses, it would be more in the heavy industrial uses. Absolutely. That's where I'm looking. So where does it go? You're making assumptions that, you know, and I don't, you know, some of them may be heavy uses, and that's why I'm also saying, I mean, this is a separate issue, that it is in the PIP. I can't make assumptions like, I just can't make them the way they're being made right now. I don't know that a pyrolyzer can't be in C1. I don't know. But if it's by special, if it's by special, and I put this, I was very, very clear that this should be by a special town board permit. I made that very, very clear. So the town board has the option to review anything that's happening and make a decision. If it's something that belongs in the PIP, and not in C1, the town board would make that decision. And I don't have a problem if it's done by a special permit. It's not a given, you know, but if it seems to be a project that has a low impact, then we could at least consider the ideas. I would beg you guys to, not beg you, but I mean, look at what's going on in Singapore. And I know I get criticized for being called Mr. Europe, but I'm going to tell you now, I look to the small... I'm going to tell you Singapore is not in Europe. No, no, I know. And I'm giving you the opportunity to enlarge my boundaries. But, you know... Worldwide. Missed the worldwide. If you look at what's going, you know, smaller countries have to deal with this stuff, and they're really, really good at it. In America, we take everything for granted. We got so much land. We'll just send the landfill stuff down to Arkansas, you know, because Pennsylvania won't take it anymore. If we have the opportunity, and if it's by special permit, everybody can make a decision. We just say, no, no, I want to be K-N-O-W, not N-O. That's, you know, and I can tell you, Stony Brook is working on a, has a food waste system, not like an anaerobic digester, very, very different. These things are happening. I'm going where the 25-year-olds right now who are in, at MIT, who are in Stony Brook, where they're at, and they're presenting to the future. I can't go back into the past or make an assumption, because we put anything in the code. That's what happened with warehouses. One person wants to do a high-key warehouse, and the town believes there's going to be 1,000 of them. Good luck with that. Well, I think the entire code is based upon assumptions for... Then let's assume by special permit we'll be okay to make... So you're guessing as to what would be, what people might propose, but you're trying to manage the uses so that the impacts are appropriate, for the area that it's in. So the objective of this code was really to bring, we got a lot of input that the heavy industrial uses in those areas were inappropriate, and that lighter industrial uses would be better, and so that was the just... I agree with you. And now would you agree with the fact that if it's done by a special permit, by the town board, let the town board make that decision whether it's going to happen? So the special permit, legally speaking, is an... I'm not being a lawyer, just... If you meet the criteria of a special permit, it's considered by law a permitted use. So the discretion of the board isn't as wide open as you're suggesting. It's not. It's much narrower. You know what? I'm not going to move forward into the past, so I'm just... Special permits allow for litigation. And we find ourselves in more litigation from special permits because, again, if it meets the criteria, we have no say in that. So it's not like a special permit is what we can say or we can't say. We're going to be in court and in litigation again because they meet the criteria. We have no say. We say no. They take us to court. Here we are spending all kinds of taxpayer money in court fighting stuff that we should never have allowed by special permit to begin with. But... And the code's a living document. Correct. You can change it any time you want. Can I take your point? I am not for putting this in C1 and C2. Okay, to your point, why do we have special permits in this list here, by special permit? I'm sorry. [transcription gap] I didn't get your full advice, but in your own... Fireless communication towers and satellite earth stations are already special permit. They were just put into... Can they sue us if we say no? To a certain extent by saying something is specially permitted use in a certain zoning district, to an extent you're almost... Spot zoning. ...no, you're... Okay. ...you're... [transcription gap] that would potentially be a appropriate location for it. You're opening a squeaky door with that. You are. Within the PIP, I mean, look, the fundamental question is along Middle Country Road, along Edwards Avenue, you have farm stands, you have smaller businesses. Residences. Residences. Would you want these types of uses? I agree with the councilman. They would be more appropriate in EPCAL, well-screened from public right-of-ways. I mean, anyone who's driven through the industrial core of the Berman subdivision, I mean, that's the location for heavy industry. Absolutely. Steel fabricators, fence manufacturing. That's where the heavy industry is taking place. I would agree that those uses would be more appropriate. But, again, we've just presented the draft, so this is the fundamental questions being posed to the board, is do you believe that those types of uses would be appropriate along Middle Country Road and Edwards Avenue? I do not. Yeah, I agree with Supervisor Hubbard and Councilwoman Waski that I don't think in this particular zoning, I agree. We should have that. Let's move on to the next one. Just because, just to follow up on the point on the position that Dawn was talking about, that with the certain amount of solid waste weight, it's going to require this particular type of permit, this 360 permit. That, by definition, is going to make it a transfer station, which is not permitted. Because in order to have the amount of material, you're going to need to make it a proper recycling for whatever. You're going to need a lot of trucks, which is going to change. And that's going to change the makeup of what this particular zoning is supposed to be. So, I agree. I think it's better off in the PIP. And I don't think the residents and the businesses in Calverton right now deserve something like that around them. They should have light industrial. I think that what you guys have put together, you know, your department along with Dawn, is good. I'm happy that you've done this. And after our meeting yesterday, I think that, you know, the civic, people that we met with were, you know, were refreshed knowing that you are looking out for them. And I'm looking out for them. And I'm not saying that I don't agree with what you want to do, Bob, but it belongs in the heavy industrial area, not in what we're going over right here. Yeah, I mean, and, you know, I don't, I appreciate everybody, you know, with their comments. I just, and Dawn, to your point, this whole thing is assumptions. And I get that. And I'm fine if everybody, you know, if the majority is against this, that's fine. I would like to. You have to have assumptions. I think it's a good decision, meaning that let's put that in a separate box or whatever. And when we come to the heavy industrial, let's make sure that that's part of the discussion, that we're not just right now. Right, but the PIP, no, I understand that the PIP, my understanding, we're not changing that because that already had, we're not changing it. I mean. We can do that. I mean, what we're looking at is just the CI zoning district and the light industrial. The PIP will be a separate discussion. Okay. We can change that if the board wants. But we're just talking about Middle Country Road, Edwards Avenue for the Calverton Industrial, light industrial along the Manor Road 25 area. And then parts of downtown. And then sort of the scattered industrial zones throughout, like, Pulaski, West Main Street. Gotcha. So that's just what we're talking about for these. Those code amendments. Thank you. And I know Councilman Curran has other discussions about building heights. Yes. We'll get into that. I have a discussion about the FAR. So, and you're best at this, Greg. I'm going to ask you. So if somebody has 100 acres, right, of industrial, and they're going to build out .25, how many acres can they build out? What is that? Square feet. How many square feet? I'm sorry. How many square feet can they build out? Four million. So, I mean, if you have 100 acres, you've got to build out. About 4.35 million square feet. At a .25 FAR, you could build about 1.1 million square feet. And how much available? At .25. Okay. So how much land does that take up? How much land is left out of that 100 acres? 75% of the land. I mean, if you can build 25%, you have 75% of your land left over. Okay. Right. So here's where I'm going with this, and this is where I'm going with this. And I've articulated this in the email. Once I know, and I think you know, I know you know for sure, that who's subsidizing residential taxes is commercial and industrial. Every dollar a taxpayer pays, they're using more than a dollar in services. The only way to equalize this in perpetuity is to develop. industrial land and a commercial right because there's no kids in school yeah and so what I'm looking at so if we go and then we're going from point two five to point three right which now that's with the use of TDR so you're at your as a right development with point two five understood and use TDRs to get up completely understood so we go to point three with the use of TDRs and we and we've had this discussion so so people understand the industrial is not going to solve our land preservation it's a piece of doing that so if we go to what what I'm suggesting is we go to point three five it was point four and passed a muster with deep a DEG is in the 2003 well it was contemplated that the proposed was point two now they are and it was adopted at point four and it got adopted at point four so at point four you still leaving sixty percent of the land open and all I'm saying is you know I'd like to go to point three five for the simple purpose that once we get there that is it that building is taxed at you know whether it's point two five point three or point three five in perpetuity the issue that's like this wasn't studied it wasn't analyzed in the comp plan all of the new buildings that we've been building are going to be in the same place and all of the numbers and data and the comp plan were based on point two five and point three with with TDR we can never figure out how that went to point four we never I type of graphical or what it was but I've looked I could not find any records for the meetings the videos were done it's sort of a mystery so point four was well over and it's a significant deviation from health department yeah I mean all the stuff that the Planning Board when they you know sent the resolution to the committee and the committee was like oh I'm going to go to point three five and I'm going to go to point three five. the town board recommended the moratorium initially for all the reasons significantly over you know allowable sanitary density based on the groundwater management zone yeah we could sit here until it blew in the face I have no idea how the point four came into being it was recommended in industrial C at point two so there's an understanding you know the our job is to try to find a balance there needs to be a balance for commercial development residential development I understand building tax base what the recommendations of the the comp plan going from you know other industrial developments if it was it was zoned as point four that's what was in the dimensional regulations to now go to point two five as of right and point three with the use of TDRs we're effectively reducing the amount of build it build out in the industry in the Calvert and industrial district by 25% so if someone you know using round numbers if someone had a hundred thousand square feet of property the old zoning would allow them to build a forty thousand square feet of floor area now with the proposed amendments they're reduced to the maximum they can build with the use of TDRs is would be thirty thousand square feet so it is a even though it's a reduction of ten percent in the allowable floor area that's representative of relation to the size of the property it is a 25% reduction so that number that was in the resolution from the Planning Board which I think was in the neighborhood of about 12 million square feet of potential development in the industrial a and industrial C zoning districts again acknowledge it that was a clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear [transcription gap] to find a balance between getting good projects, good development. Still, the project has to be financially viable, right? Not that we work for the developers, but understanding that we're essentially cutting the development potential by 25%. That's with the use of TDR. So we're cutting the development potential, and you're also maybe will have to spend $800,000 or $900,000 worth of TDRs to get up to that 0.3. There has to be some sort of balance in what we're coming up with. We're not saying nothing. It's not going to be open space conservation. That's just not something that would be viable. It was always zoned industrial prior to the 2003 comp plan, but I think the reduction in the allowable floor area ratio, again, what was studied and contemplated in the comp plan and the GEIS associated with the comp plan. I think it's a... It's a good starting place, but if we don't move forward with the code amendments now, at least get to public hearings, we're going to be in this holding pattern, and the moratorium has lapsed, as everyone knows, and again, it's hard to give anyone answers as to how they should proceed with new applications, existing applications, and it puts us in a really tough spot because a lot of work went into the comp plan and everything that's come out of the comp plan, and this is just the beginning. There's a lot more work to be done. And I totally respect that, and I can tell you, because just being on the steering committee, I remember going through this, and I remember wanting to explore to go to 0.35, and again, we're on risk, you know, and look, all I'm saying is, and I was hoping for the assessor to give me something, you know, some sort of assessment, is I think about, you know, about now, and I will, is once it's built, that is it. That's, it's going to be taxed at that size in perpetuity, and I understand, look, I get it, I saw Dawn's email, and I put in my email, I'm very sensitive to that. So, with that, let's go to the hype. I think it's just a transitional area, too, so it's a lighter industrial, lighter intensity, just overall. Again, assumptions, I mean, I know what, I think about taxes. Transitional area is not really an assumption, it's the reality of it, right, so it's like, there are houses in, and. You know, residential development nearby a lot of these parcels, and so it, that is a transitional area, and so we're trying to say, okay, what's appropriate for a transitional area, something that's not quite as low intensity as a, you know, residential versus a higher intensity like a PIP. Like, would we want those uses in the Berman subdivision right along Middle Country Road? You know, fundamentally. I just, so, just to kind of give the board a little bit of a sense of what the, you know, what's appropriate under middle country's infrastructure, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, it would be a project similar to an HK Ventures, which again was campus-style development. It was eight buildings. No building was more than like 50,000 square feet, so that's pretty much in line with the development standards that we've recommended in the CI zoning district. And again, that was intended for, it wasn't going to be a distribution center, high-cube warehousing. That was intended to be smaller scale, smaller wholesale businesses, trade contractors, storage. It was not going to be a last-mile fulfillment, truck terminal, that sort of use. So HK Ventures, in my opinion, was a good project. So that's essentially what you could reasonably expect to be developed under the CI standards. Which is a good project, and shows that it's viable economically at the 0.3 also. Well, what's nice is in your example, like if you have 100 acres, and you... We do it at 0.25. There's 75 acres. You can set that building back as far as you want, and nobody will know it's there. And I don't know if it was Matt or somebody told me, how many people know where PODS is? Well, but so that question... And that's a great job. I mean, you don't know, you don't see it. It's so well-screened, but that's a lot closer. It's not, you know, because of the size of the property. But go ahead. But so just that question about it's not necessarily accurate, or how you have to think about it. So I mean... Because you have 25... You still have to have parking, you still have to have driveways, access circulation. So I mean, you know, we have specific standards for impervious surface coverage, which is essentially all your developed areas. So yeah, I mean, on a 100 acre piece of property, even if they had a building with an FAR 0.25 that was one story, you could still realistically, 50 or 60% of that property could actually be hard scaped or developed. So it's not just saying, well, your FAR is 25%. I'm talking more about the building, you know, just the building size. But I agree. So the Calverton Pogs, to the Councilman's point, Calverton Pogs, there's a screening, you know, existing vegetation that was retained. You have to look to find that building. It's not, you know, and that was at about, I think, 35.5 feet. So in terms of visual impact setbacks, I don't think that was a significant impact. But again, that's what we could be looking at under the CI standards. Yeah. But you also have your design standards in here. Correct. Make sure that there's landscape. You know, that it's going to, you know, look good. Yeah. Or it won't be seen at all. I mean, if it's not seen and if it's heavily screened from the views of Middle Country Road, you know, those visual impacts would be considered mitigated. Yeah. You can't see it. And I just would like to just reiterate the fact that, you know, we have a new comp plan, which is the recommendations that you've adopted. And we have the old zoning. So until we implement the recommendations of the plan in these districts we're in, like Heather said, we're in the middle of the city. Yeah. And like Heather said, like a weird limbo spot. And this happened in 2004 when we were clicking through the adoption of those districts. And it took, I mean, that was a wholesale rewrite of the entire town code, zoning code at that time. And it is a very long and arduous process. And so the faster we can get through it, we may not work out every single wrinkle, you know, on the first shot. But the good news is that this board can change the code to address it. And it's a very good thing. And it's a very good thing to address any issues that come up at a later date if needed. But to get it implemented is important because from the... I agree. I agree with you. As you've said many times, we want those... We want the ratables. Yeah. I totally agree with you on that. And I do too. And I've said that too. And I just... So those are important things to do. And each one of these has not only, you know, to review at work session, but to have a resolution for a public hearing. Understood. A public hearing. Yeah. And then, you know, the planning commission, all these things need to happen for each one of the districts so it's lengthy. And it will be, by the time you get done with it, you will be... So... Sticking an needle in your eye exhausted from it. I get that. I totally understand what you're saying. Right? And having stuff like this and having, again, reading so many drafts of the comp plan to, like, I couldn't... My eyes were in the back of my head. Yeah. Your eyes were bleeding, yeah. Right? And having a lot of discussions back and forth on FAR and stuff like that. I would just like this stuff, like... Three months prior to where it's even going to get to a work session so we can have discussions on this. You know? But aside from that... I don't know if that's realistic. Three months. Well, I'm... You do whatever you want. I mean, something like the co-changes we're talking about now technically, like, have, you know, been contemplated three months prior because they're all based on the recommendations of the comp plan. Yeah. Correct. So maybe not every single use within the use table, but the wholesale zoning change has been talked about throughout the whole comp plan process. Okay. So, listen, I really appreciate the work that you're doing. The other... The thing that I want to just address, the last thing, is the height. We're giving... You know, the height and Greg was 30 feet allowable. And we went to 35 with... I mean, we're just going from 30 to 35. Right? And I know you said, because, well, we're shrinking the FAR, we're going to give them more height. I said, why aren't we, you know, saying... And I just used a number. I just used 80,000 square feet in our discussion. You have to buy one TDR. Is it going to solve the problem of saving all the land, preserving all the land? No. But I don't see industrial growing. I mean, the way we're talking about it, like, in the next three years, all that industrial area is going to be built out. It hasn't been built out for the last 30 years. So every little project we get, if we get two a year or three a year, I think we just... Yeah. Every year, I think we'd be very happy. Right? So what, you know, I would like to see, and I don't know if it's possible, if we have to make any changes here, that you have to buy TDRs in order to go up and come up with an 80,000 square feet, 100,000 square feet. You have to buy a TDR as opposed to giving it away. Yeah. Why are we giving away that five feet of extra height? I mean, the term giving it away, I just, I don't... Well, we... I mean, so every other zoning district in town, so I mean... Including the existing light industrial... Every residential zone, every commercial zone along County Route 58, the allowable building height is 35 feet. And I get that, but here's the question. Why was it, why in these zones was it zoned to go 30 feet high and we're making a change? I guess the same question that we would have about it being .4 FAR in industrial scene. We're not really sure why. Yeah. You didn't get... I know what you gave me. From a practical standpoint where you have industrial uses where they may require more clear height inside of the building, it's counterintuitive that that would be the lowest height of your zoning. Doesn't building height exempt like parapets? Yes. I would... I don't want to get too in the weeds, but our existing industrial code right now sets the maximum height for industrial A and industrial C at 30 feet. There's a exemption for parapets and architectural features. So in theory, I could build a building 30 foot to the top of the roof. I could put a five foot parapet on the top of the roof. So in terms of visual impacts from the roadway, it's a 35 foot tall building, but my roof height is 30 feet. So there was already an exemption in our code to allow for the outward of appearance of a building to be 35 feet. But what would the farming community say that now that we're allowing from 30 to 35 and no option of TDRs? So are we letting the farming community down or let them... It's something we can revisit down the road. It's just the... Yeah, I think they're not... I mean, where... To answer your question, the farming community, and I explained what you said, Greg, a little bit to them. They got ripped off on the last comp plan. It went from one acre zoning to two acre zoning. They cut their farm value in half, right? So when they saw this, they thought, well, why would they do that? Right. Why would we do that to industrial, go from 0.4 to 0.25? That's what happened to the farmers. That was their response to this. In terms of the TDRs, and that's a good question. Did I bring that? I don't know if that came up in the last... I would want to hear from them because we need... To help the farmers, the best way to help them is through the means of TDRs. So now if we're giving that an additional five feet of height, well, then maybe somebody doesn't have to purchase a TDR for the farmers. So does that in turn hurt our farming community? They need it. So in all of these zoning districts, we're essentially making the TDR more lucrative. All of the... From business center, shopping center, DRC, business F, we're going from 1,500 square feet of floor area for a TDR, we're doubling that to 3,000. So that's automatically going to make that TDR more lucrative for a farmer. In the CI zoning district, we're recommending 5,000 square feet of floor area for a farmer. So that's going to be a lot more lucrative than just 1,000 square feet of floor area per TDR. I mean, we're increasing the value of the TDR by increasing what you can get for it. And using the 100-acre example that you gave before to do that TDR to the .3, you're going to need almost a million dollars of TDR. Yeah, we wrote numbers. So that's, you know, we talked about this a little bit yesterday, the balance of, you know, getting the projects viable. And the TDR is really, I think that's significant already. We don't want to have it so expensive that they won't use it. And then if we add TDR for height, you know, maybe... I think it's one of those things where, you know, it didn't work for 20 years. We did a ton of work to figure out how to make it work this time. That's all been, I mean, I think we beat that horse and that's some. If for some reason it's not working, we don't want to do it. We don't want to do it. If it's working, we can fix it. I think that's the objective now, sort of continue to revisit it until we know it works because it's got to work. So, you know, maybe we could work on this but continue to discuss this and other options for TDR throughout the code because the more we TDR, the better in our opinion. We have to implement something. You know, there's no magic bullet. There's no crystal ball to look into to say. What's the magic formula for a TDR? To an extent, there's some assumptions. We're making what we believe to be reasonable assumptions based on the last 20 years of the TDR program. The TDR committee. TDR committee, yeah. The fact that it clearly hasn't worked to the level that we would like to see it work. So, again, we can revisit the TDRs. But what we're recommending in this set of drafts is exactly what was recommended and studied under the complex. So, I mean, we're literally just setting here's what we kind of worked on for the last four years. Let's go with it. If we need to revisit it, we can. The beauty of the DGEIS or the GEIS is that this doesn't require additional secret review, which we will need to do if we're going to do something above and beyond what the plan recommended. So, you know, fine. Okay to do. No problem. But it's just like for this particular crossroads. Right. So, it's important to get that zoning in place because it's been in limbo. The moratorium's now expired and we want to make sure, you know, part of the objective of economic development and planning being together is that predictability in the process. Right. So, when people look at the code, they know what they can do. They know what they can expect and it goes a little quicker. And then we get the rateables that you've been and we've been talking about for a long time. So, that's part of the sense of urgency, I think, we are feeling on our side here. I wanted to say, to your point, if I may come to your point, the farm community did look at and actually did increase the, what you get square footage wise for a TDR because they know that it hasn't worked. I think there were six sold at 1500 square feet, if I'm not mistaken. And there were, but I'll say this. I would just like to hear from the agriculture advisory committee. I think it's a good point. [transcription gap] But there's a lot of good things to say here from the Agriculture Advisory Committee Farmland Preservation that make sure that they're aware of where increasing the building height of five feet is. And whether or not they support that because that's less TDRs for sale. So, to put it very bluntly, and if I can just impress to the board, if we want to continue talking about this and keep going back and forth to committees, I would strongly recommend re-extending the moratorium. Because other than that, we're in a position where we have to make changes. Right. process applications. I mean we're very much between a rock and a hard place. If we want to continue talking about and continue analyzing it is not popular and I understand that it was the moratorium is a strong position for the board to take but if we want to continue talking about this and figure until we figure out what that magic number is I would strongly advise the board to readopt a moratorium to give us the room to do so. The town can't afford to extend. I mean I understand that that's good but that's the reality you know we've we've adopted the comp plan at the beginning of September we're now marching into November the moratorium ended about two and a half weeks ago we're just in a very uncomfortable position as to trying to balance the interests of the town trying to balance the interests of people who have pending applications with us. And this is something we said all along that the first area that would be worked on was going to be the Calverton industrial area. That's what it was going to be and that's why we put all our eggs in the basket to get this done. We said the same thing with the moratorium we would let the moratorium expire as soon as the comp plan came out. We worked on the comp plan for years this is what we came up with and I'm in favor of moving forward with what we have right now and then if we need to tweak it down the road with the TDR's so be it. But it is an awkward position that everybody is in with people knocking at the door with projects can I can I can I can I and to Bob Bennington and Ken we've talked about how we need tax base. You know it's nice to to help the farmers out too but there's a fine line between preserving too much space and not having enough tax base. So when you take that the TDR's and you take farmland out of the equation the tax money is not coming in like it should be. We need we need tax base from growth and from industrial. So I'm not looking to delay this any further. I would really like to get going. And move it forward and then as we come up because we don't have an answer for the TDR right now. We can further explore it. Right that's my point. We went back and forth with BFJ about you know doing cubic feet. It's just hard because it's a volumetric calculation versus what we've been using our whole like fundamental review is FAR which is based on square footage. Like not that we're not saying like it'll never happen but it's not it needs a lot more work because if you do both right now and you pick sort of an arbitrary number for height for TDR's you're you could be out valuing the TDR's for FAR. You know we want them to be able to work together. So like right now we have FAR that's what we base calculations on. So the the best thing to do is to move forward with the recommendations. Yes. And we could always revisit it. It's not shutting the door. It's just saying that like we're not quite ready for it yet. Right and I'm going to say this to your to the supervisor's point. That's why I was not in favor of the you know of the moratorium. To begin with because look where we are. Right. But and Councilman Rothwell I'll say this. I mean for the most part because I weighed in a lot with the farm community. We've had meetings with the planning staff on the TDR program. And I know that they were reading all the stuff of the fine-tooth comb. That for now and I'll take the bullet. I think they would be fine knowing that we can. We can move it because everything else all the square footages they weighed in on all of them. And they and they were very happy about it. And I've made it clear that after the first three projects. Not 10 years from now. Not five years from now. If we're not selling TDRs we need to make a move that was not made since 2023. After we sold six. You know it's like a joke. But it's on our radar which is a good thing. And you know I would support you know going forward. The other thing I'm going to say I would like out of this meeting. I know it's different than what's on the agenda. I would like the upcycling code put into the PIP for the next work session. Absolutely. Because I just happen to do a lot of research on this stuff. And I know this is what's coming out of. This is happening. And I want to. I want Riverhead to be in the front of it. You know a part of it. Not oh we'll do it. 10 years later because we don't know what it is. I'm fine with that. Okay. I'm fine with that. I agree with the supervisor. I want to move forward. So could we. Let's talk about then the transfer development rights when we're going into redemption and preservation credits. Just reading this again and again seems very ambiguous to me. Are we taking away the responsibilities of the planning board and the town board and who in fact is the board. So the board responsible for planning so you have clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear If it's, for example, in an urban renewal area, it's a town board site plan application. If it's not, let's say it's, I don't know, on 58, it's a planning board site plan application. So whatever board is responsible for review of the site plan application, that's how that gets worked into the TDR code. Yeah, I mean, that's really a simple thing. Any site plan outside of an urban renewal area within the town is a planning board application. Any site plan within an urban renewal area is a town board application. So rather than have a code that says site plan applications within an urban renewal which are reviewed by the town board, it's just the board responsible for review, whichever board that may be. If down the road those responsibilities and the authorities change, it just makes it clean. The board responsible for review of the application is responsible. Can I ask another question? We hired BFJ for a real, back in the beginning, we asked for an economic model. And I can go back to the work session. I said, do you have somebody, you know, who's going to look at the economics of this? They said yes. The other reason, the big reason for hiring BFJ was what they did in, and correct me if I'm wrong, either New Rochelle or Rockland, I think it was New Rochelle. I think it was upstate. It was upstate, yeah, it was upstate. And they did it so that when somebody came in with a site plan, it didn't take a year or two years or three years to get a shovel in the ground. Like, if you follow the code, you're ready to go. So following the code is one thing. Projects that take years are typically undergoing significant environmental review. HK Ventures, they went, it probably took two years to go through their environmental review, which identified significant impact. Understood. And identified mitigation measures. So, I mean, there's plenty of applications that come in, fully meet the code, and can be processed and approved within six months. I'm just, I review, I'm reviewing 8,800 square foot medical office on 58. That'll be reviewed and approved probably within three months. So projects that take longer is either the result of a not, it was SECRA, a non-responsive applicant that doesn't. For H2M, it takes six months. Odd. Health department. Any number of, any number of agencies and faculties. Each application and the circumstances are unique. I can't tell you how many times we deal with an applicant, and it's sometimes like talking to a brick. You know, we say, you need to make changes A, B, C. They'll come back, they'll make change A, but then they've also made D, E, and F. So a lot of times, many times, there are delays that are directly responsibility of an applicant. So, you know, we need to work on an expedited site plan. The issue with that, though, is that we're bound by SECRA time frames. No, that I understand. So I will. Not the one he could do it. I mean, I don't want to get too far off the track of the industrial zoning districts, but we recently came up with a board policy for the planning board regarding SECRA that has the ability to sort of shave off probably like two months from a review time. I will present. I will present that to the town board at the next work session. Good. And it just has to do with delegating the authority for SECRA coordination to the planning department rather than coming to the town board and saying, this is a type one action. We're going to classify it and begin SECRA. Now, that's like saying I'm putting my pants on before I leave the house. These are things that have to happen. So I'll prepare that for the town board. If you're amenable, we can discuss that at the next work session and establish that policy. That'd be real good. I would also just point out that this board, well, not this board, but a previous board. The previous board adopted a special SECRA code that's particular to Riverhead that classifies certain actions as type one actions that would not have been classified by New York State the same way. And so that lingers. And, you know, it's something for you to think about in terms of expediting projects because if you have something that New York State says is not as impactful as we suggest it might be, then, you know, you may want to adjust that code. I'd like tomorrow. Well, take a look and see what you think. No, I'm serious. I mean, that has to be done immediately. It's additional regulation that we've adopted that isn't required by New York State. I would say we do, like, we have the administrative site plans. You know, if somebody comes in less than, you know, existing building, less than 4,000 square feet, if they're doing, like, facade work and some maybe, like, you know, again, like minor site changes, typically it's up to the planning board. But they have the option to waive the public. They have the public hearing requirement for something like that, like reuse of an existing building. And that's something that gets handled fairly quickly, you know, review-wise. And I want to say 90% of the time it's a type 2 action because it's the reuse of an existing building. So it's not that, like, we necessarily need an expedited site plan. Like, we have certain projects that get reviewed much quicker than others based on the scope of the work that they're proposing and, again, the level of environmental review. So it's not site plans. It's not, like, you know, the I think it's 17. Matt really hammered them out last week. So it includes the... It includes the resolutions and then all the publish and post for the code changes, amendments, map changes. So there are a lot of them. But essentially, you know, we could probably open up some of the public hearings in tandem. You know, so the actual code amendment for CI and the proposed map changes could be held at the same time. It was just easier just in terms of noticing purposes for these public hearings where if something needed to change. Or if something, if you want to hold something open, like if you want to hold a public hearing open, you know, you could do that based on the individual resolution or notice rather than having to hold up everything. If you want to change something, you don't have to re-notice that. Right. Got it. Okay. All right. Very good, folks. Thank you very much. Does anybody want candy? And also, thank you for your hard work and fast work on putting this together since today we, you know, finished the comp plan. And now you guys, and you guys already probably started a little bit before. We don't play anymore. But we've got this all together on the board. We don't play anymore. We've got this all together and put on a plate. And we appreciate that. I appreciate it. Thank you so much. I did say at our meeting yesterday I'm very happy with our current department and staff. We're all on a good track. Good. I appreciate it. Excellent. It's a pleasure working with you guys. Thank you. Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. Okay. Next up we have matters surrounding update on boards and committees. Anybody want to start? I'll go. I don't really have that much for this month. The main thing is I'm going to have to go through the board meetings. Okay. I'll head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head [transcription gap] head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head [transcription gap] head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head bags, come out, bring your kids, bring your family, do your part to help Riverhead stay clean. I also have the alternative transportation committee. We actually went on site to the F-Cal bike path last week, and Chief Frost met us there, and we went over rules and regulations, and we're going to be having new signs installed up there, just with bike safety and helmet requirements and how to be respectful of your fellow bicyclists. And we noticed when we were up there that at the entrance to the bike path by the hockey rink, they've been doing landscaping, and the trees have been planted, and it really looks beautiful up there. And it's really nice. It complements the bike path so nicely. So I can't wait for those trees to bloom in May. Just because you're talking about the bike path, if I can say a special thank you to Mike Zaleski, highway superintendent and his workers. They did stripe the bike path, and they put up stop signs, so we got a nice addition of safety there. It looks really nice. Crosswalk. So many people crossing over. So it looks great. It looks fantastic. Beautiful job up there. Thanks. And the committee is very happy with the way that things are starting to look over there. And then beach committee, we were discussing the success of having the concession stand open through the summer up at South Jamesport Beach. We're looking forward to having that again next year, and we're actually discussing possibly having Iron Pier open on probably just the weekends because they don't have the volume that South Jamesport does. So that's really all that I have for today. That's great. I thought the concession was doing well. I'm so happy to hear that. Yeah, I've heard so many great things about it, and the moms are happy that they don't have to overpack the beach bags and everything with food. That's good. Yeah. They did a great job. Good. Bob? Ah. Okay. Oh, no. The ad committee was, you know, a lot was focused on the TDRs, but they're also very concerned about the land that is owned by the Konzola family in Weeding River and what's going on with that to the point where they were told covenants can't be changed. They travel with the land. However, there is some email correspondence. Previous email correspondence where those covenants were going to be lifted with the provision that something was done. I'm waiting to get proof of that. They're also working on the code. They'll work with the town attorney on combining it. I know we had spoken about this, combining the ad committee with the farmland preservation committee for two reasons. One is duplication. There's people on both committees and combining those two committees. I have not had any discussion with farmland committee about that. Well, they've spoken. Oh, so yeah, you should do that. They spoke to some of the members that are on both committees. Well, we had a conversation about it that maybe they should stay separate. Who did? You and I. Oh, yeah. Well, we can continue that. I mean, I can take it. I just don't want it to look like we're combining the committees. No, no, no. That's something that has never been discussed and I believe is under the discussion of the supervisor as well. It's a discussion right now. There's no, you know, it's a discussion. And I've talked to you about it and we can continue. No, I know. We're going to do that. And also, Councilman Kern, I'm just, I'm curious what you mentioned about the Kanzella farm because myself and Councilwoman Waskie went out to the farm and spoke to Mr. Kanzella. And I spoke also with the legal department and their opinion is that we don't have the authority to preempt and change the easement on that particular land. I don't want to create any conflict, but we're advised that under the New York State Constitution, we're prohibited from changing that easement. Yeah. I don't want to give them any false hope in that regard because after speaking with planning and the legal department, those nine acres, they're not going to be able to move. Yeah. And those nine acres there remain under that easement and we don't have the authority to change that for them. Unfortunately, but that's the reality. Yeah. Just so you know, I'm not, they're bringing it to me and also Peconic Land Trust weighed in. I'm just telling you what they're working on. There's no definitive decision on anything. Business advisory, they're concerned about two things. One is when something goes into, you know, the land that's being sold. Right. And then the other is when something goes into planning, for example. I think there's a three-year window and for them to get done, otherwise they got to go back and pay more money. But I'm going to leave that aside right now. It's more on the building department. Your building department permit is for one year and if you don't have it done, you've got to come back in the second year and pay half what your initial fees were. Right. And their concern is that there are projects when they go in, they say this is going to take three years and they keep getting banged up with fees every single year and these are much larger projects. So, there's discussions ongoing about that right now with business advisory and also with Greg Bergman is involved. I'm sorry, Andreas is involved and we're going to get Greg Bergman involved as well. I'd like to see that go to code revision so that we can, you know. Look at that overall. Yeah. But there are large scale, you know, projects like you say that are going through that cannot physically be built in a year and I'm not looking to penalize all of them, you know. Agreed. And take a project like Home Depot Shopping Center, it's not being completed in a year, you know what I mean? And just think, so we don't need to keep hammering them and hitting the same thing up. And that's going to certainly occur, you know, when the EPCAL development comes down in the future. You know, I'd like to see some large scale, high paying, high tech jobs. And I imagine that's going to happen. I imagine that construction will be significant up there. And they shouldn't be penalized. Certain things you just can't complete in a year time. Going through reviews and process and amendments and site plans and so forth. Yeah. It goes, you know, many, many months before you put a shovel in the ground. Yeah. And what they're looking for is like the head of building might say, hey, the clock's got to stop here because, you know, they need to do this study or that study. And same with planning. Same with planning. That's all. And then the clock would start ticking again. But yes, that's code enforcement. Let's see. What else do we have? Emerging technology, we're looking at, they're looking at the SWOT with Molloy College right now. I spoke to the dean at the business school at Stony Brook, which, to do one as well for just our industrial land. In general, I'll update you when I have more on that. Quality of life, not much to report right now. And I think, oh, and anti-bias, as you already saw what they're doing. So I'm done. Okay. Okay. So I'll leave the top of the list, Veterans Advisory Committee. So they've been doing a lot of great things. As you know, we have worked with the family of Garfrey Langholm. We have Congressional Medal of Honor. We just recently obtained his Purple Heart as well, and that's displayed in there. So they're really doing things just to honor people. More importantly, we started a planted tree to honor veterans, current veterans, active service men and women, and also those that since have gone before us. So we're proud that we have 30 trees that have been purchased by individuals. So it's a no cost to the town. And those trees have been planted. The monuments will be in place over the next few days. And we're going to have a ribbon-cutting ceremony on Veterans Day. And so recapping the Veterans Day events, so at 11 a.m., we'll gather at the World War I Monument, 11th hour, 11th day, 11th month. So easy to remember, history. So please join us for that. And that will be, you know, headed up by the VFW and the American Legion participants and so forth. Thank you. Thank you. And as well as other local communities that participate in that, our supervisor and president. And so then we will move on from there. We will go over to the VFW for lunch. Then we will proceed up to Veterans Memorial Park. At 1 p.m., we'll do a ribbon-cutting ceremony for the trees and have a little service there. And then at 2.30 in the afternoon, we'll be going over to Riverhead Nursing Home Acadia. And we always do nice little events for some of the veterans that are up there that unfortunately don't necessarily always get to get out and travel and see about. So they always welcome more arrival each year with some great certificates and words of thanks. So the Veterans Advisory Committee has been doing a great job, and I commend them. Park and Recs Committee concerns about 205 Osborne Project when it halts. And, you know, the immediate reaction is, well, will the park and rec fees halt, and when will they come forward? But from what I'm gathering in the outer circles, it seems though that project may be coming back to fruition and get back on track. So that is hopefully anticipated income to them. They have worked very diligently on making a list of recommendations. I think that you'll see some items come before the town board for consideration in the very near future. But the funds are limited. But as the 205 Osborne will come to completion, as some projects downtown come to completion, you know, there's potentially... some light in the distance of money that may come in to begin to do some capital improvement projects up in the parks. Everyone should know, traffic safety will always be here. It's Thursday of each month, and the struggling is financially to put, you know, traffic lights in. Everybody wants a traffic light. Everybody wants a stop sign. But the Chief has been doing... Chief Ross has been doing an excellent job kind of mitigating it and having people understand that, you know, stop signs and so forth are not there to control speed. You know, but it's more of the rec and rec. And he does a great job, and the committee's doing a great job. But anybody that has ongoing concerns, you know, every single person that comes before us, every email letter is individually addressed. We go out on site and look at some of the issues that have come up, and we do personally address them all to the best we can. So they're doing a great job, too. And Cobra Vision, I think we did a great job over the last month to do kind of clearing a lot of the calendar, like all the things that have been ongoing, and it seems like now there's a new influx of things that are coming in. So... It's a little premature to talk about them, but I think we'll see some more things coming across Cobra Vision and coming to the town board in the future. That's essentially it right now. Very good. Good news. Okay. All right. The finally long-awaited anticipated senior guides are in, and they're going to be assembled and produced over at the Senior Center, and also the MAP, my aging plan, that's about to occur. Also, in the personnel department, we've had several interviews. We had interviews last week. We had interviews last week. We had interviews last week for senior accounting position with Mr. Kern and myself. We also, building and grounds also we had interviews for, and the PD. Next week we have more interviews for additional police officers. CAP, they have gone out recently and done beach cleanups with regard to looking for vape products, cigarettes, and other things that maybe teenagers or young people are using. They collected some of those materials, and I just want to give a shout out to Councilwoman Waskie and the One Beach. They happily reported that a lot of the bottles and such were not out on the beach. They were in the fish, so they were happy to see that. That's great. Also, in the ARB, we have lots of signs going up and new businesses coming in. The two marijuana dispensaries will be opening up soon. They came before the ARB for signs, approval for signs there. Also, with the EAC, while they are not having a meeting this month, they did have two nights over at the Senior Center where they were working with the EAC. They had a meeting with the Senior Center where they ran a film with regard to the environment and had participation from the community. Also, the parking committee, which is very active lately and concerns everyone has. Just to clarify, paid parking is not coming soon. All that's occurring is a study, to study for a month with regard to parking lot, just to determine the movement of individuals. What the whole point of this is, is we want to free up parking for commercial space, and not for other individuals just to park their cars all day and all night. We want to make sure that the parking goes for our commercial establishments. This is just the first step, a study, to look at the multi-tiered parking and look at how this is all going to play out in the future. That's something I want to keep reiterating to the public. That's a study that's going to happen for a month's time. Thank you. Mr. Wood has been consulting with the parking committee many, many times, been on Zoom meetings, met with us in person. The parking committee is on board, I understand, now supervisor. Is that accurate, based upon the meeting that they had the other day? Correct. Yes. This is something that everyone understands. There will be all kinds of information with regard to a QR code, with regard to texting. There will be signage, but it is not going to happen. We will be working with the city of Michigan, paid parking, for quite a while to come. It's just a study to see how this all goes moving forward. Because eventually the town will have paid parking. But that's way down the road. Also, the inclusion task force unfortunately cannot meet this month. They were scheduled to meet. So those are my committees and those are just updates on those. Okay. Well, thank you, board, for the update. We have one last item. And this is matters surrounding Riverhead in Action media campaign and the inaugural newsletter. And that will be with Herbert Imwaski. And we currently have a newsletter that is being published and being sent out or being available. This is also available online. And this is part of our Riverhead in Action. This is a conglomeration of different people from within the building. And within the town. Putting this together. And it will be done quarterly. In print. And that way it's available. We have copies of this out. I think everybody should have gotten them. Did you guys get them? Yes. Okay. So I think we're going to do the video first. But then we can jump in the newsletter. The booth will put the newsletter on the screen. Okay. Very good. All right. We have a Riverhead in Action video we're going to play right now. Okay. So we're going to play the video. I believe this one involves the fire marshal. Good. I love it. Hi. This is Tim Hubbard, supervisor of the great town of Riverhead. And you're watching Riverhead in Action, a media campaign designed to highlight the incredible work of the 350 plus employees that comprise Riverhead's 26 departments and sub-departments, town events, and community events. Projects, job openings, local businesses, and other town happenings. I hope you find this informative and enjoyable. And thank you for watching Riverhead in Action. Hi. This is Andrew Smith. I'm the chief fire marshal for the town of River head. For this episode of River head in action, we're doing a spotlight on our regional hazmat team. The town of River head's fire marshal's office is responsible for a wide range of different things. When an average person thinks of a fire marshal, they think of someone in a uniform who's dressed in a head head's head head's head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head someone in a uniform who checks fire extinguishers and the misuse of extension cords in commercial businesses. While that may be true, there's much more responsibility that the average person is not aware of. You may find a fire marshal out on Main Street during a Live on 25 interacting with the community members and teaching people how to safely operate a fire extinguisher. Or you may find a fire marshal at the senior center explaining to senior citizens how frequently they should change their batteries and their smoke detectors. Some people find the fire marshal's office on the worst day of their lives after a fire occurs, and we are there to help pick up the pieces and figure out how the fire started. The emergency response community also relies on the fire marshal's office to bring a higher level of response during a hazardous materials emergency. The Town of Riverhead fire marshal's office teamed up with other local fire marshal agencies to respond regionally to hazmat emergencies in Riverhead and other surrounding areas. The Town of Southampton hazmat team is composed of fire marshals and other public safety personnel from the Town of Southampton, Town of Riverhead, and the Town of Riverhead. The team responds to many types of emergencies including hazardous materials container leaks, explosions of compressed gases, corrosive liquids, chemicals, radioactive materials, and acts of terrorism. In this segment the hazmat team is performing a training exercise at an establishment located in the Town of Riverhead. The Riverhead Police Department drone unit is on scene providing drone support for the team, and the Riverhead volunteer ambulance is on scene taking vitals of team members before and after getting into hazmat suits. The training will help prepare team members to respond to chlorine emergencies. As part of this response, hazmat technicians must get vitals taken to ensure team member safety. Don the appropriate PPE, personal protective equipment, and enter the hot zone to mitigate a dangerous gas that was inadvertently created by mixing two non-compatible chemicals. The drill simulates an accidental mixture of muriatic acid and chlorine, two common chemicals used for pool maintenance that were accidentally mixed in a red garbage can by a staff. The drill is a very effective way to prevent the ! The drill simulates an accidental mixture of muriatic acid and chlorine, two common chemicals used for pool maintenance that were accidentally mixed in a red garbage can by staff. The drill simulates an accidental mixture of muriatic acid and chlorine, two common chemicals used for pool maintenance that were accidentally mixed in a red garbage can by staff. The drill simulates an accidental mixture of minerals used for pool maintenance that were accidentally mixed in a red garbage can by staff. The drill simulates an accidental mixture of minerals used for pool maintenance that were accidentally mixed in a red garbage can by staff. The drill simulates an accidental mixture of minerals used for pool maintenance that were accidentally mixed in a red garbage can by staff. The drill simulates an accidental mixture of minerals used for pool maintenance that were accidentally mixed in a red garbage can by staff. The drill simulates an accidental mixture of minerals used for pool maintenance that were accidentally mixed in a red garbage can by staff. The drill simulates an accidental mixture of minerals used for pool maintenance that were accidentally mixed in a red garbage can by staff. The drill simulates an accidental mixture of minerals used for pool maintenance that were accidentally mixed in a red garbage can by staff. The drill simulates an accidental mixture of minerals used for pool maintenance that were accidentally mixed responded to a chlorine emergency in a hotel pool room with a victim. In all situations the hazmat team operate in accordance with their training and successfully mitigate the emergencies. Pool chemical interactions are a more common type of incident that we respond to. It's important to not allow pool chemicals to come in contact with each other. Chlorine mixed with any other chemical or substance can emit toxic gases, erupt in flames, or even explode. It's very important to read containers when utilizing these products and not act outside of the manufacturer's recommendations. If chemicals accidentally come into contact with each other remember to leave the area immediately and call 9-1-1. A special thank you to the Riverhead Police Department Drone Unit and the Riverhead Volunteer Ambulance Corps for providing support for the drill. Okay that was Fire Marshal Andrew Smith who headed up a training session at a property in Riverhead and it works out good for every individual. Andrew Smith and his team are helping everybody to come together. Fire Department Police Department Fire Marshal's Office EMS and practice for these drills because you never know and you can never be prepared enough. So I want to thank Andrew Smith for doing a fine job with that and our Fire Marshal's Office. They do great work all the time. So we appreciate that. Alright. I believe we're gonna put up the Riverhead in action newsletter. And again, this is something we're going to do quarterly. And it's going to be just factual information, information about our departments and things that are going on. It's going to include some important dates for things. It's just a good information source that if you don't know, if you look through it, I assure you, you're going to learn something each time this is put out. And again, the more positive we reinforce things in the town of Riverhead, the better people have an idea as to what's going on. Projects will be updated. Updates will be given in the newsletter. And it's just an informative piece to give out to the public. And it's available online to read and know about what's going on with your town that you live in. So we may not discuss every item at every work session, but there are things in here that will come up. And you'll be updated. And you'll be in the know. And we think it's important for the residents to be in the know. Okay? All right. I just want to quickly just thank everybody that was involved in putting this together. This came together in like, what, three weeks? Three and a half weeks? Yeah. How have you been working on it for a bit? I'm not exactly sure how much time, but... I mean, the way that you just pulled it all together and everybody worked together. And you guys did such a great job. And thank you to the department heads. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you to the department heads that took time out of their schedule to be able to participate in it. And I love that it says, Riverhead is always in action because we are and we're doing great things. And I hope everybody goes online and takes a look at it. Yeah. So just to reiterate a couple of points that the supervisor made. First of all, I think this is a testament to the supervisor's vision and also to the councilwoman's ongoing effort to try to get kind of the word out about a lot of the good work that goes on within the four walls of Town Hall. And when we say Town Hall, we mean across the board. Town Hall, we mean, of course, all the other departments that operate across town. So this is an attempt to sort of give a sort of behind the scenes look among other things that the supervisor and the councilwoman mentioned. And it's just the beginning. It's issue number one. What we plan to do is e-blast this out to all the folks that are currently subscribed to receive the e-alerts on the town's system. And it's easy enough for those who want to sign up for that to go on the town website and sign up. We're all in this together. We're also, in addition, going to make it available just via a link on the town website. As of today, folks who even don't get the e-alerts from the town can just go on and click and they'll be able to see the newsletter. And then we're going to also ask the folks in IT to make it available so that it's a PDF also downloadable for folks. So again, it's just the beginning. It's issue number one. We kind of took a stab and selected a few departments to start with. I think we're going to have to do a little bit of a review of the e-alerts. I think we're going to have to do a little bit of a review of the e-alerts. So we're going to start with kind of, as I say, behind the scenes look. Sort of what goes on in the day in the life of, among many other interesting things. So we hope the public finds it interesting and worth reading. And it's just, as I say, the beginning. And hopefully it will evolve, as the supervisor mentioned, to include more and more things and become more robust as time goes on. So open to suggestions. Folks can email Riverheadinaction at town at riverheadny.gov with any suggestions in terms of content for future newsletters. It's going to come out. It's going to be quarterly. The next one will come out in January of 25. MR. Excellent. MS. All right. MR. Excellent job. And a big thank you to the staff, my staff, to the department heads, to Councilwoman Woskie for putting this all together. MS. And town board coordinator Diane Tucci. MR. And Diane Tucci for putting this all together. MS. Deputy town attorney Danielle Hurley. And also Joey Mariana from CDA. MR. Yes. MS. Who's helpful with this as well. MR. Absolutely. MS. Certainly a team effort. MR. This is an excellent first edition. MR. All right. At this time. MS. Supervisor may I make a suggestion? MR. Yes. Go ahead. MS. Can we have Devin come forward so that people can see her whole outfit instead of just. MS. Oh, you know I don't. I'm not sure that's totally necessary. But okay. MS. Yes. Come out. It's a great outfit. MR. No. Yeah. Please. Because I want to ask you a question about this. MS. We actually have an idea on that after the resolutions. It's going to be. We're going to feature all the employees that are dressed today. Will we go back? MS. I was thinking they might not understand what's going on there. MS. That's very fair. And they may not. We're just going to let them keep guessing for now. MS. Okay. MS. All right. So if everybody's ready we'll jump into resolutions. MR. Okay. I would ask the Irish lass in the room to read the resolutions please. Devin. MS. Or the gift. Whatever. MS. Or the gift. MS. Okay. All right. Resolution number one. Authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to local. Notice to local law to amend chapter 301 zoning and land development part two districts article 42. Transfers development rights 301-202 transfer of development rights map pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comprehensive plan update. Resolution number two. Authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to local law to amend chapter 301 zoning and land development part two districts article two districts and boundaries 301-6 boundaries of districts to amend zoning map to change certain properties to the Calverton industrial CI zoning use district. Pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comprehensive plan update. Resolution number three. Authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to local law to amend chapter 301 zoning and land development part two districts article two districts and boundaries 301-6 boundaries of districts to amend zoning map to change certain properties to the Hamlet Center HC zoning use districts pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comprehensive plan update. Resolution number four. Authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to local law to amend chapter 301 zoning and land development part two districts article two districts and boundaries 301-6 boundaries of districts to amend zoning map to change certain properties to the open space conservation OSC zoning use district pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comprehensive plan update. Number five. Authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to local law to amend chapter 301 zoning and land development part two districts article two districts and boundaries 301-6 boundaries of districts to amend zoning map to change certain properties to the residents B40 RB40 zoning district pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comprehensive plan update. Number six. Authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to local law to amend chapter 301 zoning and land development part two districts article two districts and boundaries 301-6 boundaries of districts to amend zoning map to change certain properties to the light industrial LI zoning use district pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comprehensive plan update. Number seven. Authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to amend chapter 301 zoning and land development article two districts and boundaries 301-5A classes of districts pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comprehensive plan update. Number eight. Authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to amend chapter 301. Zoning. and land development to include attachment 4b town of riverhead industrial districts table of use regulations pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comprehensive plan update number nine authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to amend chapter 301 and land development zoning and land development attachment 4 light industrial li district schedule of dimensional regulations pursuant to recommendations of the 2024 comprehensive plan update number 10 authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to amend chapter 301 zoning and land development attachment 3 commercial districts table of dimensional regulations pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comprehensive plan update number 11 authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to amend chapter 301 zoning and land development part 2 districts article 24 industrial b indb zoning use district to remove the industrial b zoning use district and reserve article 23 pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comprehensive plan update number 12 authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to amend chapter 301 zoning and land development part 2 districts 23 industrial inda zoning use district to remove the industrial a industrial a zoning use district and reserve article 23 pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comprehensive plan update number 13 authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to amend chapter 301 zoning and land development part 2 districts 39 districts article 39 planned industrial industrial park pip zoning use district 301-185a permitted uses pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comprehensive plan update number 14 authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to amend chapter 301 zoning and land development part 2 districts article 26 light industrial li zoning use district pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comprehensive plan update under 15 authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to amend chapter 3-0-1 zoning and land development part 2 districts article 25 industrial c indc zoning use district pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 comprehensive plan update number 16 authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to amend chapter 3-0-1 zoning and land development part part 2 districts article 42 transroad development rights 3-0-1-204 through 3-0-1-205 under 3-0-1-205 301-208, pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 Comprehensive Plan Update. She blows right through those one and no more. Well, I Googled all of them in advance because I knew there would be no way I could get them. Number 17, I fully admit that. Authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to amend Chapter 301, Zoning and Land Development, Part 1, General Provisions, Article 1, Title, Purpose, Definitions, and Interpretations, 301-3B, Definitions, Word Usage, pursuant to the recommendations of the 2024 Comprehensive Plan Update. Number 18, authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to consider a local law to amend Chapter 103, titled Town Officers and Employees, Article 6, Term Limits of the Riverhead Town Code. Number 19, adopts a local law to amend... Hang on one sec. Sure. So that's 18 public hearings. Oh, yeah, but there's still more with other things, too. No, not the local law. Okay. Maybe we'll... With these resolutions, I like the idea. Are we going to, for the majority, open them all up kind of together? It's all intermixed. It's going to be quite complicated for the general public to specify, including myself, you know, to what each and every item is pertaining to. So I understand the whole reason for breaking them all up, especially if there is a change. But in the interest of... We'll bring Planner Bergman forward. Yeah, in interest, is it going to be... I'm just mad about that. ...one set time that will kind of go over all 17 anyway. I will definitely recommend... I'll talk to Dawn, and we'll talk to Matt and Heather. We'll come up with... I understand 17 public hearings seems daunting, but they're all really related to each other. So we will come up with a sort of game plan just in terms of keeping the public hearings structured, probably open hearings on the MAP amendments as one block, MAP amendments on the industrial zone, zoning texts as one block, and perhaps the TDR components as a separate block. So we will come up with a structure. It's not just going to be a free-for-all, even though all of these changes are really sort of interrelated. We will come up with a structure to keep it orderly. I just think it'll be hard to say, wait, you're commenting on Resolution 12 or Resolution 17. You know what I mean? It is very much intertwined. We'll come up with a game plan. If you package it properly for the public, we'll be able to... We'll get through it fairly well. And I mean, I would for any members of the public, the planning department is available. I understand that if you don't do this for a living, reading these texts, your eyes sort of go sideways. You don't really understand. Like I said, we met with members of civic associations yesterday. So if anybody has any questions, please feel free to call us. We can take some time and sort of just give you some guidance, help you understand the framework, because I understand that it is a lot of information to digest, and it can seem daunting. So... I would invite everyone to call us if you have any questions. Absolutely. Thank you, Greg.
Okay. Resolution number 18 authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice to consider a local law to amend Chapter 103 titled Town Officers and Employees, Article 6, Term Limits of the Riverhead Town Code. I feel like I read that already. Number 19 adopts a local law to amend Chapter 269, Section 5 of the Riverhead Town Code titled Removal and Retreatment, Return of Abandoned Carts. Number 20 adopts a local law to amend Chapter 237, Section 4 of the Riverhead Town Code titled Permit Procedures. Number 21 adopts a local law to amend Chapter 231 of the Riverhead Town Code titled Fire Prevention. Number 22 awards bid for Class A biosolids improvements. Number 23 promotes a police officer to the rank of sergeant. Number 24 appoints a maintenance mechanic to the county of New York City. Number 25 appoints a part-time traffic control specialist. Number 26 appoints a code enforcement officer. Number 27 accepts the retirement of an auto mechanic 3. Number 28 assesses cost of labor and material for previously authorized remedial actions at premises known as 271 Hubbard Avenue, Riverhead, New York, Suffolk County tax map number 600-112-1. Number 28. [transcription gap] Number 28 pursuant to the Riverhead Town Code Chapter 251. Number 29 ratifies authorization for supervisor to execute a license agreement with Ademco Inc. to utilize runway at EPCAL. Number 30 authorizes submission of grant application to Suffolk County for program year 2025 community development block grant funding. Number 31 authorizes the town of Riverhead police chief to execute New York State title for settlement with State Farm Insurance Company. Number 32 authorizes application to Suffolk County for HUD home funds and authorizes supervisor to execute grant agreement. Number 33 authorizes the removal of a fixed asset. Number 34, same thing, authorizes removal of a fixed asset. Number 35 pays the bills. Number 36 provisionally appoints a senior accountant. And number 37, a resolution to amend the preliminary budget for the 2025-2022 budget. 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All right. So, Supervisor, if I may. You may. We sort of made a little. Oh, sure. Go ahead. First of all, happy Halloween, everybody. Be safe tonight. A reminder that Daylight Savings is Sunday. We gain an hour, which is always a nice time of the year. We get an extra hour on Sundays. So remember to set your clocks back. And we have an announcement for Riverhead Rotaries Annual. Can you get a quick shot of this up here, Justin? It's the Pancake Cottage Breakfast, Sunday, November 3rd, at the Riverhead Polish Hall. And it goes from, now I can't read it. It goes from 8 till noon, I believe. Yep. So come on down. You can pay at the door. And it's always a great cause. Whenever the Rotary does an event, it's top notch. The food is always really good. It's a good time to see a lot of people down at the Polish Hall. So if you're available Sunday, November 3rd, from 8 a.m. to 12 noon, stop down to the Polish Hall for the famous Rotary Country Pancake Breakfast. All right. So what we'd like to do, Supervisor, if it's okay with you and the board, we have all the employees who were interested in participating in sort of a spontaneous, Halloween costume parade through the boardroom lined up in the room next to us. They're going to come through. Justin's ready to grab a shot of everybody. There's a lot of creativity and a lot of levity in what everybody decided to work today. So we all could use a little bit of that around here, I think. Is there a reason the town attorney's not dressed up in something tonight? That's what I said. Yeah, we made the same observation, Supervisor. The town attorney elected not to participate in today's activities. Maybe we take that up later. I don't know. That's all about it. Okay. His loss, I would say. His loss. I would say his loss. So anyway, without further ado, maybe we'll bring everybody in. Yep. And, Supervisor, it's worth noting that perhaps you should, you know, also participate. Maybe you want to join in the fun. Let's see what we have here. I can't wait.
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I'm going back to your seat. Yeah, they want to go. Yeah. I love it. Do you want them to go back behind there? Maybe up top. Can you do that? There's the zookeeper. They're going up there.
After all this, you just need to first keep your clothes on. That's great. I love it. Hey, who's this? Okay.
Andreas, the academy shop's opening up.
This is great.
You're going to line up. Oh, okay. We're flanking up this way.
We can stay here. We'll stay on the first floor. Let me get that itch on your foot. Itch. Come on. Are you guys going to get clear? I gotta squeeze. I gotta clear. [transcription gap] I gotta clear. [transcription gap] I gotta clear. I gotta clear. The animals have to squeeze. Oh, the animals. We're getting a little closer. Can I take a class? I'll just go all the way back. You can't miss. You got it? Got all of us? Yay! I don't think we have the community. You guys are so good. I love the kids. They're great. They're great. He's got the huge face. No, he's got the huge. Oh, no. Oh, my. We're just going to sit down and close. We're just going to close. I want to be with you, buddy. It's good. [transcription gap] As soon as we can bring it. Good job, everyone. Nice work. Sit. Whoa! Getting up. Go ahead. I'm on the bike. And this is Riverhead. This is Riverhead. And this is Riverhead in action. I will say that a happy staff is a great thing. [transcription gap] And I think that Riverhead is a very good hardworking staff. And kudos to everybody who participated today. And kudos to everybody who participated today. We love it. And happy Halloween, everybody. And happy Halloween, everybody. I would like to make a motion to close the town board. I would like to make a motion to close the town board. Mr. Scalzo. Do you want to mention you got a great event this weekend. Absolutely. Come on up. If you want to share the success. I just want to let you know. First of all. I am the promoter of the go-kart racing. The drag strip. And the drifting out at EPCOW. I have to read a few things. I will be 80 years old tomorrow. Happy birthday. As Marie says. My memory is the second thing that is starting to go. But anyway. This Sunday is the final event. Of our fourth season of NHRA. Sanctioned drag racing. Out here at EPCOW. Ten days ago I was contacted by a man by the name of Bill Madden. Ten days ago I was contacted by a man by the name of Bill Madden. He was the grandfather of one of our junior dragster racers. He was the grandfather of one of our junior dragster racers. See if we could include a junior dragster event. During this last event. Which is this coming Sunday. Some of these junior dragster drivers. Are as young as six years old. Driving cars that look like. Full size dragsters. But of course on a smaller scale. I said sure. We would be put up a cash prize and trophies. Bill said he hoped to add to what we were donating. Bill said he hoped to add to what we were donating. And thought we could get the purse up to $5,000. And thought we could get the purse up to $5,000. I'm here to tell you today. That as of this morning. Thanks to donations from local business owners. Thanks to donations from local business owners. Plus many racers locally. And from around the country. Tremendous amount of individuals. That he has raised. $21,900. And we have three days yet to go. And we have three days yet to go. This is the largest payout. For a one day junior dragster. For a one day junior dragster. And it's the largest event ever. In the history of drag racing. Many parents are traveling from out of state. And will be spending money at hotels. Restaurants, gas stations, etc. Here locally. We are getting local and national exposure. For our little temporary drag strip. And it's all thanks to the continued support. From the town board of Riverhead. So on behalf of myself. Marie Long Island needs a drag strip. And the entire racing community. Thank you so much. I want to thank you. Because I'll tell you what. Going back a couple years back. When you first approached us. About doing this. I was a little skeptical. But I got to tell you. It is everybody and their brother. Loves this event. You run it wonderfully. It's a great job. That everybody does up there. You have so much help. So much staff working. Our racing community adores it. And they've had no place for a long time. So let's hope we can keep this going. For many years to come. We'll see what happens. But fingers crossed. We'll continue to make you proud. And hopefully our wish is that someday. We can turn that into a permanent racing motor sports facility. Maybe someday. You can team up with OTB next year. What do you think? Horses? Okay again. Thank you so much. Great job. Okay. I have a motion to close work session. And we're going to go into. Executive session. To discuss. Personnel issues. Matters surrounding. A change in status of employee. With Hubbard. Matters surrounding. Supreme Court referral. For town code violations with Howard. Matters surrounding. Suffolk County versus town of Rivhead sewer district. And matters surrounding. The change to license agreement. Between the town of Rivhead. And island exterior. So could I have a motion to. Close work session. Open work session. And go into executive session. So moved. Second. All in favor. Aye. All opposed. Second. [transcription gap]