May 1, 2025 — Town Board Work Session

Town Board Work Session Meeting

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0:00Thank you.
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1:15Thank you.
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1:19Okay.
1:20We are in our open session of part of the work session.
1:23And the first item we have up today are matters surrounding possible change to Chapter 251
1:29and 252.
1:29uh regarding public nuisance and with that we have counselor howard and senior investigator downs
1:38from our code enforcement
1:47thank you good morning
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2:29Moving forward with that, the previous code had notable limitations that hindered effective enforcement and compliance.
2:40These limitations included outdated penal code references, lack of necessary defined terms,
2:48lack of constitutional protections, especially related to First Amendment rights,
2:54and reliance on specific criminal New York State penal code violations.
3:02All right, so the purpose of this revision, the primary goal of this revision is to broaden the scope of what constitutes a public nuisance
3:10in a more general and comprehensive manner.
3:16So this is achieved through incorporation of newly defined terms that offer greater clarity and precision.
3:24So everybody have a copy of the draft?
3:29Okay, and just for a little practical context, the prior nuisance abatement law really only allowed us to focus on public nuisances
3:39where we could establish violations at properties for criminal sale of narcotics or convictions for prostitution charges.
3:52And so in the past, you know, we'd worked with PD.
3:54On a couple instances, in trying to get these public nuisances established,
4:00the problem is you need those penal law convictions to support the nuisance abatement violations.
4:08And a lot of times, those would get kind of lost through the prosecution process with the DA's office,
4:15or, you know, the prosecution process would be lengthy, and by the time you get those,
4:20and they have to be repeated convictions, by the time you get those,
4:24it's not really the public nuisance.
4:26The public nuisance isn't necessarily ongoing, you know?
4:30So this allows us to respond in a little bit more, I think, real time
4:35by incorporating the life safety violations, substandard housing violations that Richard's going to go through.
4:43Yeah, thank you for that.
4:45So key terms that we included in the new law, as Eric just mentioned, health and safety violations,
4:54these violations contribute to public's well-being and security.
5:00We added terms such as illegal and unlawful businesses.
5:07These are activities that contravene legal standards or licensing regulations.
5:13We included the term imminent danger.
5:17These are situations where an immediate threat to public safety is present.
5:24And,
5:24terms like prohibited activity.
5:28These specific sections deemed illegal by local ordinance.
5:35Also, we incorporated the definition of a public nuisance,
5:40which also still includes penal code violations,
5:44substandard housing, and health and safety violations
5:52of properties,
5:54where prohibited activity exists.
6:04So the key revisions to the law, as discussed, were the definitions.
6:10We included thresholds for determining what a public nuisance is in 251.14.
6:20The revision specifies how a court official can assess the existence of a public nuisance,
6:24and the
6:50public nuisance.
6:51The thresholds are clearly outlined and provide a procedural framework for decision making based on the following features. Frequency of violations, risks to public health and safety, community impact, and the non-compliance history. We included an inspection and evaluation process in the code.
6:52We included an inspection and evaluation process in the code.
6:52We included an inspection and evaluation process in the code.
6:54This includes probable cause.
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6:57The law requires probable cause to initiate any form of legal actions.
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7:04We included in this ordinance evidence gathering so that it's spelled out exactly how to gather evidence against a property that may or may not have a public nuisance.
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7:06gathering so that it's spelled out exactly how to gather evidence against a
7:12property that may or may not have a public nuisance. We've included very
7:19important documentation and due process for violations. This ensures that the
7:27notice of violation is served in the proper manner. We've included enforcement
7:34and escalation measures. That's if the property owner fails to abate the public
7:41nuisance. We could refer the matter over to the town attorney's office to start
7:47an action and request some sort of injunctive relief. We've also included
7:53civil proceedings and penalties. This code, you know, aligns with
8:00Article 65 of the CPLR, Civil Practice Law,
8:04and rules to ensure proper civil procedures are followed in enforcement
8:09actions. Civil penalties under 251.17 are described for cases where
8:18injunctive relief is sought and granted. We also included Justice Court measures
8:25in this code, so if we do come upon a house that has a public
8:30nuisance, we have the ability to also bring an action forward in
8:34justice.
8:34So very important, we've included a protection of individual rights in the
8:46code too. This is a critical addition to the revised code to safeguard for
8:55property owners and tenants, ensuring that the enforcement or nuisance laws do
8:59not infringe on their constitutional rights. It was not in our prior code,
9:04so this includes a clear stipulation that the code cannot be used to hinder an
9:09individual's ability to seek emergency assistance and make 911 calls.
9:16The conclusion, this revision provides a more comprehensive, systematic approach to
9:24identifying and addressing public nuisances, the inclusion of the newly
9:28defined terms, a structured process for determination, and a comprehensive process for
9:34clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
9:45clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
9:52clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
9:58clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
10:01terrific tool for the courts it gives them clarity for definition of terms and
10:05procedures that are to be followed and it I you know and to your point about
10:10the district attorney's office what is a substantial crime to the district
10:15attorney's office may be very different to individuals living in a town and the
10:20delay it takes with the DA's office or frankly dismissed a lot of times and
10:25satisfaction of more serious crimes it gives us independence and not relying on
10:30the district attorney's office for convictions before we can proceed with
10:33public nuisances in our town I think you both very much for this I think it's a
10:37great help to several citizens that have come up and complained about conditions
10:42in the neighborhood deterioration on unsafe unsavory characters walking all
10:47around and you know wandering onto their property passing out drunk and such I
10:52think this helps a lot of those neighbors thank you thank you
11:00I have one question I think this is really good code where I have a problem
11:04is the amount of the fines and the civil penalties yes yes yeah the penalties for
11:15you know offenses justice court addition civil penalties right starting at $500
11:20mm-hmm and I would like to see a start I would like to increase that to a thousand
11:26not exceeding two thousand and then seven thousand dollars and then I would like to increase that to a thousand not exceeding two thousand and then seven
11:30events started at two thousand and go and go to three thousand but the third
11:37offense should start at thirty five hundred no more than six thousand and
11:42only you know because you have you know repetition if it stated in this code
11:47like if it happens you know if every day you're going to get fine I just think
11:52that we've got it justifying to the crime
12:00legal problems okay no I don't see any legal problems with that I would just my
12:06comment to that would just be that you know if if something is so severe that
12:11we're seeking those types of those types of fines in justice court the chances
12:15are we're going to Supreme Court on this where the where the civil penalties we
12:20have from five thousand to ten thousand for each day so yes you know that could
12:27that could be a you know in in the
12:30additional penalty that that a property owner faces but I think that when we're
12:35looking at monetary penalties in connection with public nuisances we're
12:38mostly going to be looking for those from the Supreme Court in the context of
12:42civil so that's getting that said that's my only comment on that you know the to
12:49me the Justice Court violations here are not I mean they're they're important to
12:54have in there as a tool but those are mostly going to be for your less serious
12:59public nuisance
13:00where you're pursuing a Justice Court violation to try and I guess get the
13:07property owners attention and have some kind of fine in place for that short of
13:12going to Supreme Court if it's a significant serious situation that's
13:17when we would refer to Supreme where we're looking for those more substantial
13:21civil penalties that I get I'm just you know I'm just looking at the fact that
13:26you know still five hundred dollars you know
13:29every even
13:30yeah I mean starting at a thousand isn't going to make somebody want to go to
13:33Supreme Court right yeah I mean I think yeah I think on that first offense
13:36probably going to a thousand on that is is a good idea I would agree with the
13:41councilman to at least climb and reach up by five hundred dollars that started
13:45a thousand that's just I mean what it's costing us to have you know our code
13:52enforcement officers out there tying up you know our legal department teams and
13:57so forth it costs us a lot of money to prosecute these things and so forth and
14:00so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so
14:30this is peanuts right when was the last time that the minimum fine was looked at
14:37you know 20 years ago $500 might have been you know significant to some people
14:42but things are different now yeah I do want to spin off on what Eric said with
14:48respect to the fines though I mean this is the first course of action with this
14:53would be probably a notice of violation for a first that for a first violation
14:58let me see and then it could spin off into justice court at that time but I
15:03think if we're getting to and then we're getting no compliance I think what Eric
15:07said we're just going to go to Supreme Court to start for some sort of
15:10injunction which carries heavier civil penalties in this code I could also
15:16maybe increase you know the civil penalties that we have in here I don't
15:21know what they all know you put in five thousand ten thousand for each day
15:28so you know
15:28significantly high when you think about it right but it's I think it's well it's
15:32well-deserved it matches the crime because I know that you go back and
15:36forth back and forth back and forth right and it's a lot of legal work and
15:41it's a lot of code work way I look at it is determine what it's costing our code
15:46enforcement officer to go and then for you to evaluate it you to evaluate to
15:51then send somebody to court we figure we start figuring out payroll salaries for
15:55people in town and the amount of time that's allotted
15:58on a simple offense we need to start recuperating that it's a couple of
16:03those expenses I would just ask one question mr. Howard says prosecutions on
16:07these does this if as a prerequisite does this assist you in a Supreme Court
16:12action down the road if there are prior convictions on these yes so and that's
16:16sort of the way that the code is constructed so that you know where you
16:20have repeated violations it sort of builds up to that right so you can get
16:25citations under 251 I'd like to know if you have any questions on that I'm going to go to the next slide
16:28but the notice of violation or then conviction or plea of guilty in justice
16:33court and then you can then use that as a predicate for the Supreme Court action
16:39later on and that's the only reason I'm talking I guess in the context of the
16:44fines people more likely to plead guilty to it on the lesser amount but it helps
16:49build a case for you I guess in Supreme Court if you do have that individual
16:53that's a repeat offender where you can hit them with the big fine in Supreme
16:56Court that's that's my
16:58that's true too I mean I think I think there's I think there's a you know a
17:03good balance and consideration here in terms of what you know $500 actually
17:09means to property owner who is engaged in an ongoing public nuisance you know if
17:16if they are if they are doing that you know you're going to have a certain set
17:20of property owners who aren't going to worry about paying that fine and then
17:24there's other types of property owners who maybe just have a messy property
17:28that they just don't clean up for years and you know $500 would be significant to them
17:35and what's our relief in Supreme Court in a Supreme Court action in a Supreme
17:40Court action we would typically see conjunctive relief and civil penalties
17:44well so yeah injunctive relief in terms of directives either to cease a certain
17:51activity or remove certain items or people or individuals that's what I'm getting at do you want to say something about that?
17:58so you have much stronger powers in the Supreme Court action to really eradicate
18:03the problem right yeah yes that's how they can't pay higher fines
18:10I agree I'm just showing what the balancing can be
18:12sure a lot of this is going to involve rentals too so when we're looking at I
18:17mean we know of houses right now that are getting 75 hundred dollars a month
18:21yeah because they're a palace but because they have numerous people living
18:26Well, this code is really set up to address pretty much anything that comes up.
18:31So you can have your rentals.
18:33You can have your transient rentals that are causing disturbance to the community.
18:38You can have properties where they become a drain on emergency services for not necessarily legitimate reasons.
18:47You can have this apply to the person who is something of a hoarder or collects things in their front yard
18:58and has received repeated communications from code enforcement to remove those things.
19:04So it's very broad in terms of the types of violations and conditions that it can be used to address.
19:13Yeah, I also want to say that these are,
19:17for repeated occurrences, so in this code,
19:21repeated occurrences are more than two occurrences within a six-month period.
19:25So we're looking at those properties that really have those types of situations.
19:33These are repeated occurrences of prohibited activities and substandard housing.
19:40We're still going to have those mechanisms in the code to address overcrowded and high grass and weeds
19:46and other things.
19:47Unregistered vehicles and things like that.
19:50But when we look into this code, we're looking into
19:55serious issues that are occurring.
19:57So, so Rich, you know, this may be a stupid question,
20:01but what there is some, there is some shopping centers that have,
20:06I just went through one, Pothole, and it's been there now for a couple of weeks.
20:11Is this, is that a, that's a public nuisance?
20:14No? Or?
20:17I'd like to, I'm going to tell you why I would like to capture that somewhere,
20:22because, you know, you know the other one that we talked about,
20:26I said have code go every single day and find them,
20:30because I mean a little kid could get lost in some of those holes in that one place.
20:35You can get a canoe out.
20:36Yeah. No, seriously, but I mean, you know, people go through there and break an axle or, you know, it's.
20:42I don't think this specifically would address that situation.
20:45Okay.
20:46Yeah.
20:46Yeah.
20:47Is there an objection by others to raise the fines?
20:49No. Not by me.
20:51So let's bring them up and start covering some of our costs.
20:55But it's great code, Rich.
20:57You know, I'm just, I'm just, I'd like to be more financial.
21:01I agree with you on raising the fines.
21:03I never have a problem with that.
21:05That's fine.
21:07This was good.
21:09You guys put a lot of work into this, a lot of information in here.
21:11It was needed.
21:13Yeah.
21:14It was needed.
21:15Thank you.
21:16Very good.
21:19It's going to be in a more lengthy report each month, Rich.
21:21Yeah.
21:22Yes.
21:23It is.
21:24If you want to take a look at that.
21:25So, my office will prepare a resolution.
21:28Schedule a public hearing for this.
21:30Mm-hmm.
21:31Okay.
21:32Yeah.
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21:35Good work.
21:36Thank you.
21:37Welcome.
21:38Thank you.
21:39Okay.
21:40Next up, we have matters surrounding introduction of online bill pay feature for Riverhead Water
21:45District.
21:46We have Bob Kern, Frank Mancini.
21:47That's April 14th.
21:48Chip Krenborg and Robin.
21:49Robin, how old is that?
21:50I'll keep you up.
21:51Okay.
21:52The brains of the office.
21:53Yes.
21:54Hi, guys.
21:55Hello.
21:56That's my favorite person.
21:57Here I am.
21:58Here I am.
21:59Did we get it done?
22:00Are we there?
22:01We are there.
22:02Okay.
22:03Good.
22:04We are there.
22:05Good.
22:06This is huge.
22:07This is just.
22:08This is exciting.
22:09Six years in the making.
22:10This is fantastic.
22:11It happens to be very new.
22:12It's a very new thing.
22:13It's a very new thing.
22:14It's so easy to do.
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22:17I have this.
22:18[transcription gap]
22:43location you can search with your account number there is a portal which
22:50is very very easy to navigate you don't have to register you can register
22:55yourself you can do it as a guest on if you want to sign up for auto pay you
23:00would register yourself you would in input your banking information you would
23:05store you click auto pay so as of the due date on your water bill it would
23:11auto pay we can go through the motions as far as searching registering
23:19yourself I've registered myself I've made a payment on it already Lisa tested
23:23it she said it's super easy took all the manual entry of the tax receiver out of
23:29the equation it post my payment everything auto generates it puts it
23:34into a batch overnight it updates the system my payment post to my water
23:38account they get a batch they close it and they get a new payment and they get a new
23:41payment and they close out their batch and we move on so rather than them
23:46having to go into every single account and posting that payment that has taken
23:50that whole manual entry out of it so if you guys want to see we can go through
23:56I'm going to pretend that I am owning the water district account because I've
24:00already registered myself so I'm going to first look up my account I'm going to
24:07pretend I don't know my account number I'm going to search for the water
24:09district account
24:111035 Pulaski and search so this brings up all of Pulaski Street keep in mind the
24:19owner name is going to be gone so it's just going to be the street addresses
24:23I'm going to grab mine there I am that's my account it's going to show you the
24:29last four billings with the usage and what's open you can also go in and see
24:36a PDF of your current bill
24:40my account
24:41there's my water bill just as I would see if I got it in the mail or email to
24:45me this is currently what went out the last time with the lead service line
24:50that's going to be off and we're going to have a big my new update on the
24:53bottom of the bill about go paperless and your payment options this is your
24:57water bill if you go back to now we're back to our account if I want to make a
25:04one-time payment I have two options to do it an e-check or a credit card payment
25:09I would click make a payment
25:11I would choose checking our credit so I did my checking account the last time
25:17and I would click continue because you notice this is your head we're
25:23negotiating the percentage on the credit card payment right now because it's set
25:27up to be two point nine five percent we're currently two point five on four
25:30head so we're trying to get them lower than 2.5 because we don't want to go up
25:35obviously we don't want it to be a higher thing we want it to be either
25:39comparable or lower to what our customers currently pay. I see some towns just do a
25:44flat fee like it's $2 to pay online or $1. An e-check is $1.95. That's a
25:50flat fee. It's a percentage on a credit card payment. AutoPay has no fee. So if
25:55you sign up for AutoPay, you just, it pays and there's no fee incurred by you. So I
26:00would click continue. I would go through the motions. I would put in my
26:05information, my routing, my account number, my billing information. I would
26:09head continue. It would confirm once again that this looks correct. And I
26:15would click pay. What that does is that sends it through the processing window
26:19at night. The web portal creates a batch for the
26:24tax receivers' office. All of those populate to the Water accounts. They get
26:30their batch in the morning. They clear, they close out their batch
26:34so you have full clear data.
26:34and all of their funds are populated and they get a report of who made payments
26:39on that window so all their manual entry is now gone if we wanted to go through a
26:46registration
26:49shift
26:59full screen right yeah so the final changes we got notified will be done by
27:09the end of day today as far as yes as long as we can get everybody off the
27:13system so those pages with the owner field they just confirmed that with me
27:16today the percentage should be fine
27:19analyzed within the next couple of days and then we can push this out to the
27:24website so instead of going to the Forte payment window for for water bills it'll
27:30direct them right to this if we wanted to click as it to register our account
27:37what you would want to do oh hang on I have to do you have my phones in my in
27:44order we tested this with chip yesterday it can't be it if the town email address
27:49would be the address of the town email address
27:49would not send the code to it ultimately did though it ultimately did
27:54late yes well do you want me to try to do it do you have your sure phone can
27:58you access your email right now what does it take a long time well I'm
28:02already signed up so it won't send me another even if it's a different
28:06account I said do by okay because I could try mine so if I wanted to create
28:11a user ID I'm gonna pretend to be the water district so I'm gonna do Riverhead
28:16water
28:19oh it's gotta be about disregard so I'm going to try to do claim board yes
28:26very good
28:30and why go continue and it's going to send a code to your email address
28:40validating your email address
28:45[transcription gap]
28:49get a lot of validating codes over the next few days
28:53I can use my press if you want okay hang on
29:06I'm just gonna say and I went for Robin this has been like Rob has been great
29:11you've been great tip has been great dime banks
29:14corporation you know this really came together yeah I want to thank you for
29:18corporation you know this really came together yeah I want to thank you for
29:20everybody else this is benefiting our customers, the water district, and the tax receiver,
29:24but it took a bunch of different departments to make this happen.
29:26It took a lot of coordination.
29:27It took a lot, but it's here.
29:28Right here.
29:29You did?
29:30I want to be the first to welcome you to the 21st century.
29:31How do I get through?
29:32Well, now that you've got two years now, get the back of the phone.
29:33Whatever you'd like.
29:34A few years.
29:35It did come in.
29:36Okay.
29:37This is the way it normally works in the real world.
29:56Like you sign up, you get an email, verification.
29:59Verification, right.
30:00One of the things that I do want to work with Robin on is the next bill, what it's going
30:07to look like.
30:08I think we need to do, I'll talk to you.
30:09Well, I have a mock up of what I have specced out so far.
30:13The one thing that I have to change with Edmunds, everything on this page is hard coded by Edmunds.
30:22Anything that I want, this all generates from the system.
30:27Wow.
30:28Your bills.
30:29Okay.
30:30This is the area on the front of your bill that I have to work with.
30:37Okay.
30:37So, but my back of the bill always has my notifications.
30:43We do our little thing.
30:44This is our water conservation and other things that we have to have at the bottom.
30:50So I have limited space on the front, but this is potentially what the front's going
30:57to be because a lot of people don't flip their page over.
31:00Good point.
31:01So we're ...
31:02It already exists.
31:03Oh, I can't use that one.
31:04All right.
31:05Okay.
31:06So I have a lot of things that I have to do.
31:07All right.
31:08So hang on.
31:10But it's not your code.
31:11Oh, yeah, because we didn't use yours yesterday.
31:12Yeah.
31:13Okay.
31:14Let's try it again.
31:15Sorry, guys.
31:16That's okay.
31:17These things always happen to me.
31:18I'm trying to show you how awesome it is.
31:19I'm going to sign you up again.
31:20Chip, what I'm wondering is if Jason could do a ... put a little video together that
31:21we can run on channel 22.
31:22All right.
31:23All sign up process and then instructions on how to do it.
31:24Okay.
31:25So, I'm going to sign up.
31:26Okay.
31:27So, I'm going to sign up.
31:28Okay.
31:29So, I'm going to sign up.
31:30Okay.
31:31So, I'm going to sign up.
31:32Okay.
31:33So, I'm going to sign up.
31:34All right.
31:35All sign up process and then instructions we can leave at the senior center and we ... at
31:40the different condo complexes.
31:42368.
31:43And really get this thing moving.
31:44362, 368.
31:45Yes.
31:46Got it.
31:47Okay.
31:48Okay.
31:49So, you're going to ... just like you would do for anything else, I would do ... I'm
31:53going to do you ... you know what?
31:55I'll pretend in you.
31:58Framborg.
31:59631, 727.
32:00Okay.
32:01All right.
32:02All right.
32:03So, I'm going to ...
32:04I'll try that.
32:05... order.
32:071035.
32:08Let me see.
32:09Order.
32:101035.
32:11Exclamation point.
32:12That's my standard.
32:13So, if anybody needs to get anything at the Water District, that's what it usually is.
32:28Uh-oh.
32:29We don't have a lot of variety there.
32:31Can we back up and erase the tape a little bit?
32:32Oh, sorry.
32:33Okay.
32:34So, we would create our account.
32:35We could do this with ... we can record this, and then we can put it out ...
32:44Oh, like one step by step.
32:45Yeah.
32:46This is being recorded.
32:47Yeah.
32:48Step by step.
32:49Right?
32:50Yeah.
32:51Right.
32:52But without any ... hit, you know, no mistakes.
32:53Yeah.
32:54Okay.
32:55Right?
32:56Yeah.
32:57Let's do that.
32:58There we go.
32:59We're going to sign in.
33:00Okay.
33:01We'll head over ...
33:02... so ...
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33:30on channel 22.
33:31Gotcha.
33:32Once you are a registered user, it's going to bring you up.
33:35You're going to have a menu of things on the side
33:37where you can store your credit card information,
33:41your bank account information.
33:43You can register for auto pay.
33:45With the new portal that they're importing,
33:48there's going to be a checkbox to check right from there
33:51for e-billing, for paperless billing,
33:53so they don't have to go into two different portals to do that
33:56because right now you can't do that.
33:59It would be a two-step thing where you would have to go to one portal
34:01to register for e-billing.
34:03So it needs to all live in one nice, comfortable place
34:07where everybody can access it.
34:09And you can make your payments from there.
34:12The nice thing is that you can view your account online.
34:17You, particularly when your last payments were,
34:20what your usage was for the last four cycles,
34:23you can see your bill.
34:24It's the one biggest question we get all the time
34:27because right now through Forte,
34:29it's a generic form.
34:30You click that you want to pay.
34:32It has, as you populate all your information,
34:34it doesn't bring up your account.
34:36It doesn't know your account information.
34:37It doesn't know how much you owe.
34:39So everybody has to call first, get their account number,
34:43get how much is owed.
34:44You can pay whatever you want.
34:46You can make a partial payment, whatever you want to do.
34:49It's not going to reject it because it's a partial payment
34:52or an overpayment.
34:54We set about setting boundaries for overpayments.
34:57I believe 10% of them are overpayments.
34:58I believe taxed at $1,000 is fine as long as, you know,
35:03you don't want to ever carry too much overpayment.
35:06My thing is that we don't want to have to incur a refund to somebody.
35:09It's a time process to make a refund to somebody.
35:13So you don't want to have people, you know, if people have extra money
35:17that they throw extra $1,000 on.
35:19I get it, the summer comes and you don't want to get hit with that big bill.
35:23But if you sell your house, now you have this big credit on there,
35:26I have to give it back to you.
35:28It's going to take a while.
35:28It's going to take about a month for me to get you a refund.
35:32So we try to avoid that situation.
35:35But other than that, I find it very easy to register myself.
35:39I found it very easy to make a payment.
35:41I don't have to be in auto pay.
35:44I want to go in and pay when I want.
35:46You can do that.
35:48You know, I pay my $1.95 for my e-check payment and I'm okay with that.
35:52I pay $1.95 when I pay my taxes.
35:55It's pretty simple.
35:57It's just a nice sort of.
35:58It's a nice little tool that people can go on when they have a question,
36:01go see their things.
36:02We can direct them to that.
36:04And it doesn't always, you know, have to be a phone call.
36:07People want that.
36:08They want to be able to see their account online.
36:11They don't always want to trust me when they call and say,
36:14I didn't bill for this much last time.
36:17You did and I can give you a report, but you can't see it yourself.
36:21People want that, that they can see their information online.
36:24So it's pretty big.
36:26It's big for us.
36:27That's just great.
36:28This is great.
36:29We're moving along.
36:29We need to get, we'll get the word out.
36:31I'll work with you on that.
36:32Yeah.
36:33I will do that.
36:34So we really get a lot of people signing up.
36:36Yeah, it would be great.
36:37You know, auto pay is great.
36:39It's, you know, everybody will, you know, people are used to that.
36:42People want to have that option.
36:47People don't want to mail a check anymore.
36:49You know, they don't want, you know, people don't even have checks anymore.
36:53Sure.
36:54So, you know.
36:55Good work.
36:56It's awesome.
36:57Excellent.
36:57I do have a question.
36:58Yeah.
36:59So the first page, property location.
37:02Yeah.
37:02So is this the same as the tax receivers portal that you do not put in,
37:07let's say that you're on West Main Street.
37:11You don't put the word street.
37:13It's just West Main.
37:14So when I just put in 1035 Pulaski, you did not have to populate the street.
37:19So you didn't have to do street, avenue, place.
37:22It pulled it up.
37:23But you just need, you can just put Pulaski Street and it will bring
37:27up everything.
37:27You can put the number and Pulaski and it will bring up, you know, from that moment
37:33on so that you can make sure that you're picking the right one.
37:36But if you put street or avenue, it will still accept it because the tax portal will not.
37:42We could test it.
37:43We could.
37:44So let's do.
37:45Well, it's a look up.
37:46So it's not going.
37:47Yeah.
37:48So the tax portal is just like this.
37:49But if you put in Pulaski Street, nothing will come up.
37:53You haven't put Pulaski.
37:54So it pulled it.
37:55It worked with me doing street.
37:56Street.
37:57It works.
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38:00Without me putting in street.
38:01Put in Oak.
38:02Oak.
38:03Because we have a couple.
38:04Yeah.
38:05We have a lot of oak.
38:06So how do we.
38:07How many oaks come up.
38:08So Oak.
38:09You're going to get all your oaks.
38:10You're going to get.
38:11Oak.
38:12Oak lane.
38:13Oak drive.
38:14Oak drive.
38:15Oak.
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38:56This is the one also, I mean, not a lot of people know their tax map number,
39:00but it brings up your section block and lot.
39:05This is great.
39:06So it's, for us, it's huge.
39:11At the bottom of this page where it says Town and Riverhead and so forth,
39:16we're going to tweak that a little bit so it's going to have your fees down there
39:19before you even go into it.
39:20Any other pertinent information we think that you need before you go a step further
39:27will be right here at the bottom so that you're not questioning, you know,
39:32what are my fees, how do I look something up.
39:35So this is just generic for right now because the portal is pretty new,
39:39but it's something that we can change.
39:41We don't have to go back to Edmunds and have them change it for us.
39:45That's something that's changeable by us.
39:50I think that's about it.
39:52So the new portal we could possibly have up by the end of today
39:56if we're able to coordinate getting everybody off the system.
40:00Otherwise, it could be done at another time.
40:02Correct.
40:03Before we push this out and the fee, we're still, we should hear in the next.
40:09Very soon.
40:10Yeah.
40:10For the moment, it's 2.25.
40:11So you'll give us a launch date so that when we put it on Channel 22, people will know.
40:16I would say once we have the fee solidified, then we would have a,
40:20we would.
40:20We could have a launch date.
40:22We could do a launch immediately.
40:23Right.
40:24There's nothing that would stop us from doing that.
40:26We just want to have that.
40:27We could go right now.
40:28We could go right now except that the owner is there and it's 2.95.
40:32So I don't want to put it out there to somebody that wants to jump on and make a payment
40:36and they're paying 2.95 and then next week it's 2.5.
40:40You know, that would not be helpful.
40:43I'm so happy for you, Robin.
40:44Oh my gosh.
40:45I really am.
40:46It's just a beautiful thing.
40:48And in tax, the collection process.
40:50Yeah.
40:51Is so much easier.
40:52So much easier.
40:53So it's just, because it's all working together.
40:56We always had this web portal.
40:58It was always a thing in Edmunds.
41:00It's just that taxes system and our system weren't the same.
41:04They had VAS then they went to Forte and they just never were on the same page.
41:09And now with the web portal, this is what it's designed for.
41:11We're going to have a barcode scanner for them.
41:14So when people come in with their stub, they can just scan this code.
41:17So it's no keying in.
41:19They just scan the code.
41:20And put in the payment.
41:22It's really, really good.
41:25And I mean, Edmunds for us, I don't know if everybody loves Edmunds.
41:29I love Edmunds because anything I've ever asked for them to do, they're on it and they do it.
41:35And they're very responsive.
41:36And this is a portal that's been around for a long time.
41:39And it's proven.
41:40And it's...
41:42And we're ready for the next quarter.
41:45We're ready for the...
41:46Yep.
41:47Yep.
41:48So May bills will go out with this.
41:49Okay.
41:50So May bills will go out with this.
41:51That's my plan.
41:52Okay.
41:53And once they log on, they don't get a paper bill anymore.
41:54Is that right?
41:55If they register for paperless, they will not get a paper bill.
41:56They get an email, it comes up paperless water at townofriverheadny.gov.
41:57Excellent.
41:58They get their paper bill front and back like that.
41:59And if that's what they choose, ultimately that's the huge goal for everybody to go paperless
42:00because it makes...
42:01Cuts down...
42:02See about postage too.
42:03You know, $30,000 in postage, mailing water bills, and all that stuff.
42:04So it's a great way to get people to go paperless.
42:05And it's a great way to get people to go paperless.
42:06And it's a great way to get people to go paperless.
42:07I mean, I remember running numbers on this a couple of years ago, and it's very, very
42:08expensive.
42:09I didn't have a clear head head head head head head head head head head head head
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42:18thousand dollars in postage mailing water bills a year is a lot.
42:22Justin, do you want to use the ceiling camera and shoot the back of the bill here?
42:26It's physical work. They produce the bill, her and Melissa in the office.
42:30It's a lot of physical work. I mean, I remember running numbers
42:34on this a couple years ago and it's very, very expensive.
42:38And the taxpayers, you know, are paying for that. This will lower
42:42that cost completely. It's going to go away. Just paper and postage and
42:46ink and envelopes and, you know, the time.
42:50It's just, it's... That's the back of the bill.
42:54Yep, so that'll be up on our website. That'll be on the
42:58back of the bill. You'll get it either paper or paperless.
43:02And we'll have our blurb on the front of the bill for the people that don't like to flip the bill
43:06over, don't realize that there's a back on the bill.
43:10And they'll have their options.
43:14And Frank probably doesn't get nervous when she presents, probably.
43:18She's fantastic. I'm thankful she came today. This is my gig. This is my gig.
43:22She did all the work. I know. This is my thing. This is my baby.
43:26I really appreciate it. You should be very proud. Very good job.
43:30In terms of a water project, this is the least that Frank has ever spoken of.
43:34Thank you very much. You did a wonderful job.
43:38You're welcome. You're welcome. You can't guarantee me on anything else.
43:42This is my spiel. This is simply his.
43:46My thing. You're up. This is like how it works in the office.
43:50And if anybody has any questions regarding
43:54any of it, just call us. Me and Melissa, we
43:58you know, we do this all day, every day.
44:02Excellent. Very good. We're good. We're ready.
44:06Thanks guys. Thank you guys.
44:10Change of passwords.
44:12Next up, we have
44:16matters surrounding New York State Municipal Parks and Recreation Grant
44:20with Thomas and Keller.
44:24Wait, this is you.
44:28Hello. Hello.
44:32I have mine too. I think this was the extra one.
44:36I think this was the extra one.
44:40Good morning. Very good. How are you?
44:44I didn't hear you well.
44:48I had to go online and hear you. What did I do?
44:52Yeah, I would say that's probably. So we're just following up on last week's
44:56discussion regarding the application for
45:00this Office of Parks and Recreation Historic Preservation Grant.
45:04Just to overview, it's $10 million that's available in two different rounds
45:08this year. Recently announced short window to apply.
45:12Up to a million dollars per project with a 10% match.
45:16And so we tasked Liz as the recreation
45:20expert to kind of like hunt around and see
45:24what we thought would work. I know she spent some time speaking to Ray
45:28regarding the potential grant opportunities in particular
45:32the lighting at the ball field. So that was one. That jumped out first.
45:36Yeah. That's a good project. But then we received a lot of feedback.
45:38A really, really large quote. Yeah. Can it be a multitude
45:42of projects or does it have to be a single item? So I'll just give you the overview of the project.
45:46So it has to be a capital improvement. So and
45:50it has to be to develop new municipal parks and to
45:54improve natural, ecological, cultural, and recreational resources
45:58at existing parks. And so wouldn't it be a maintenance
46:02opportunity? It would be, it's a capital expenditure.
46:06So construction or new. And so the
46:10ball field lighting was something obviously we've been looking at for a while.
46:14And the cost, the project cost
46:18was too high. And the thing about downtown which is a
46:22wonderful thing is the opportunity to match the grants with other grants. And so
46:26we try to not lay out taxpayer money or use park and rec money
46:30if we can avoid it. Because downtown is low to moderate income area.
46:34So we can use community development block grant funds to match. And so that's
46:38where we were getting the 10% of the million dollars. It's a super easy
46:42fit. We have all the, and because it's a short window for the grant, we have
46:46a lot of data and all the information on through this
46:50consolidated funding application already. Because we've already
46:54used that system to apply. So I think after, and I'll let you finish
46:58up what your research resulted in. But ultimately it was our
47:02recommendation that the application
47:04be made for the playground at the town square.
47:08Yeah, given the time that we had and then the inability to match
47:12with the really large quote that came in for the lights at Betts. And then
47:16I wound up discussing alternate projects with Ray
47:20Coyne. And we decided that he was
47:24going to maybe pursue a match with you just
47:28through conversation. You want to come up, Ray?
47:32And then I also spoke with him. Sure, we're not alone.
47:34Should I wait?
47:38Yeah, wait, wait, wait.
47:42I'm sorry.
47:46I need to sit shy in the back. No, I was just
47:50come down here. Sorry. No, that's fine.
47:54And then I spoke with Shannon Clifford over at Engineering and I wound up
47:58getting this really great list of all the projects that are kind of
48:02on the docket. Ray also shared with me a spreadsheet for projects that were on the docket
48:06as well. But by that point, the turnover
48:10between the application process and the due date, it wouldn't really have
48:14been possible to get the information completed by tomorrow's
48:18date. And the match. And the match as well. The match was the bigger issue. So you need
48:22to come up with the 10 percent. And that comes out of the original grant, the 10 percent?
48:26It comes out of Community Development Block Grant. So we use those for
48:30downtown low to moderate income areas. They can be used for Stotsky
48:34Park. So in the past we've spoken to Ray because that's within that low to moderate
48:38area. So if he had a new project, so like the CDBG has
48:42to be a project. It can't be a maintenance. But if we
48:46use it for a new project that they have on their list, we can then
48:50shift money that he had on his budget for that project to
48:54maintenance if he wants to. We've worked on a little of that in the past.
48:58So just a question, like Ken Tester worked on in the beginning of the week. So we
49:02have all our bathrooms installed and we have our veterans motor park ready to turn them on.
49:06But we don't have sidewalks around them. And we need to
49:10install sidewalks. We need to bring them down to the parking area so
49:14they're ADA compliant and keep people out of the mud and stuff like that.
49:18So he had put that out and that's like $24,000. And it would be
49:22nice to put some picnic tables around there and a bike rack, maybe two bike
49:26racks outside. But it's $24,000.
49:28Maybe with some picnic tables and so forth, $25,000 we don't have.
49:32That's a capital improvement project. So there's nothing there. It's dirt right now.
49:36It's a new project. So with something like this, could this be felt? Ken already has
49:40the quotes that he can give you today.
49:44I'm just trying to find ways to complete that project so that we can say, okay, this is done.
49:48We cannot use CDBG for that because it's not low to moderate income areas.
49:52The match would be out of your pocket. But that's not a huge match.
49:56It's just for an opportunity for up to a million dollars. It's kind of a nice thing
50:00to go hit the bigger projects that we need to find. That's why I was wondering, could it be a multitude of
50:04other projects? So you're saying you only got to pick one. So you're going to pick one expensive project.
50:08When you think about grants, you have to remember that the granting entity
50:12wants to come down and do a ribbon cutting and show and put a sign on the project that
50:16they did. So that's why, and also just in terms of the maintenance aspect of it,
50:20they are not going to invest in something that you haven't maintained.
50:24Right? So they're going to look at you and say, well,
50:26we're going to invest this money and we're not going to get a good return on investment.
50:30Also, it's not a great photo op. So if you can incorporate those maintenance
50:34projects into a capital project, that's something to talk about.
50:38We can work on those. So for instance, if you wanted to do a stormwater
50:42runoff rain garden that involved the parking area, that was something that
50:46between engineering and us you could find necessary. And then we would need
50:50a full-on budget for that in order to make the application. We can't gash that
50:54number. We need to have actual quotes and things like that. And so with this one,
50:58it was a short window, a big number. It could be a nice hit if we could get it.
51:02And it just made the most sense to kind of direct it in this way.
51:06There is a round two.
51:10If you wanted to choose to not approve this project, we could research moving forward
51:14what could be applied to a round two.
51:18We're not saying we're not approving it. We're just learning about the process.
51:22100%. That's why we're here. I am too.
51:26I didn't know if there was an overall,
51:30if it benefited to put a whole park plan. These are all the new things.
51:34We need adaptive playgrounds in different parks. Like in Wayne River.
51:38Can you put a package? So my question last time was could you put a package that there are
51:42ten projects within a town that are all new capital projects that are going to upgrade
51:46all of the parks to have handicap accessible playground equipment and things
51:50like that. Could you do that?
51:52And then you're dressing up the town as a whole as opposed to just narrowing down to one spot.
51:56Not in the Calverton location with the CDBG money.
52:00So with alternate match funds potentially, yeah.
52:04Absolutely.
52:08But match funds would go a long way. I mean Ray's got 149,000 right now.
52:12Roughly. Yes.
52:16We have two bears on the top of that list.
52:20So if he wants to do a tennis court and a basketball court, it's new.
52:24Yes. Okay. That would qualify.
52:28He uses the match funds and then he has funds to do the other projects that
52:32Ken is talking about. Yes. That's what we've been working on in the past.
52:36Particularly with CDBG because if we can use grant money
52:40to do the Stotsky Park capital project
52:44if you want to add a ball field or something like that
52:48then he frees up his budget to do other things.
52:52We've had this conversation in the past.
52:56So for sure you could do that. There's quite a few projects on the list.
53:00Yes. There are quite a few projects on the list.
53:04When is round two? They didn't specify. It'll be during this year.
53:08Probably later in the year, August, September or something like that.
53:12So if those likes didn't qualify then for this particular grant, right?
53:16Right. No. They did qualify.
53:18They did qualify for the grant.
53:20But the money that Community Development has
53:24couldn't be put towards the match
53:28because it's restricted to the area.
53:32It's got to be like the Stotsky Park area.
53:36It's got to be downtown and that area extends up into Stotsky.
53:40And that's a really flexible fund. We get it every year from the county.
53:44It's from HUD. It comes from HUD.
53:46It gets administered through CED.
53:48It comes from Suffolk County and it comes to us.
53:50And every year we get a nice chunk and we spend it on different projects.
53:54So you have a resolution for one today, actually.
53:56So we have a couple of landscape crews that are donating to the town.
54:02And we spoke to Ray about building soccer fields up on Veterans Memorial Park utilizing that field.
54:08They even talked themselves like, oh we have a company that says we would donate irrigation.
54:12I said, well that's wonderful but we don't have any water up there.
54:16Could you even put the water saying that if you put that fire hydrant line that came through,
54:20that water line came through and then somebody else then stepped up and did the irrigation stuff like that.
54:24Could that be part of the overall project?
54:26So this could be used for...
54:28It gets water in the park.
54:30I think...
54:32That's a capital project.
54:34Let's just say...
54:36It could also fill a well.
54:38It can be used for necessary costs of construction.
54:44So I think...
54:46That's a good question.
54:48I'd like to look a little more.
54:50It's possible.
54:52We'd need the plan for the big project.
54:54So we'd need the total project plan and then the cost of this component.
54:58And we would move to get the grant on that component of the overall project plan which is X million dollars.
55:04You know, whatever it is.
55:06Again, match is important.
55:08Like when we talked about the lighting, it just couldn't get done with the cost of the lighting.
55:12There was just not enough funding to have it.
55:14We can't have the free match and we can't use this really convenient match fund to supplement it.
55:20So we can do projects then in the future at Stotsky Park.
55:24Yeah, yeah. We've talked about this in the past.
55:26Because we're going to need lights at Stotsky Park.
55:28So as long as it's not a maintenance project, it's a capital improvement.
55:32So if it's like a change out to LED, you want to change out a playground, for sure.
55:36We talked about this with the tennis coach.
55:38We couldn't do temporary pickleball.
55:40We couldn't do movable stuff.
55:42It had to be a permanent capital improvement to Stotsky.
55:44And then, you know, if you have money set aside for that, yeah, it goes back to your kitty for whatever you want to use it for.
55:50Unless it's park and rec money, in which case you can't use it for maintenance.
55:54But, you know, if you had other money...
55:56But it's 10%. So whatever the project would cost, it would be 10%.
55:58It depends on the grant.
56:00It depends on the grant.
56:02Arguably, for this particular project.
56:04Sometimes it's 20, sometimes it's 10, sometimes it's 50.
56:06It depends on... every single grant is different.
56:08What about the new West Eccles Skateboard Park?
56:12It's going to be on the other side of Stotsky Park.
56:14I've been researching grants for that as well.
56:16So you're going to be sending me more information on what the group that is currently organized and is fundraising.
56:24Oh, yes. The Dexpr.
56:26So they have enough funds in there, Kitty, now to do the plans and the specs, right?
56:30So that's what we will need to get the bigger money, which we talked to them about.
56:34So this may be, if they're done with that by the next round, that could be an opportunity to apply for that.
56:40But right now, there's not enough money.
56:42But right now, there's not enough budget.
56:44Like, I can't... we can't invent the budget.
56:46We need actual numbers from an actual...
56:48It's a good idea to kind of go forward with that.
56:50No, and Liz is on that.
56:52So, you know, we're totally focused on that.
56:54That's on county property.
56:56Are they working with us?
56:58Are they going for any grants for that new skate park?
57:00We haven't discussed that with them.
57:02That might be, you know, something worth discussing because I don't want to see us foot the entire bill.
57:08I don't want to see us foot the entire bill.
57:10I don't want to see us foot the entire bill.
57:12And that might be useful if they can help get some grants.
57:14Well, there's always...
57:16As we get closer to having an actual drawing, you know, that's always the good thing to be able to go to the county with and say,
57:22Hey, this is on your property. What are you thinking you could work with us on?
57:26We would do that networking for sure.
57:28So we're currently working on the resolution for the county to pass to approve the project.
57:34Yeah. And they've been, you know, we're working on support letters for their grants that they're doing on the private end.
57:40And they're going to be...
57:42And, you know, as soon as we have an opportunity that comes up.
57:46What we got from engineering and what we have from you guys is great because we know what people are looking for.
57:51And that's generally what we do.
57:52Like, what is your project? What do you need? Like, PD needs cars.
57:55You know, so we're kind of like always researching and looking for the next thing.
58:00So what's at the top of the list then now? So what are you thinking?
58:02What's the... In the short time notice we have?
58:06Well, this definitely... The grant is ready to be submitted. It's due tomorrow.
58:09It's a treatable.
58:10That's why...
58:11And what is it for?
58:12It's for the town square playground.
58:14Town square playground.
58:15Which is fully designed, fully engineered, fully budgeted, ready to go.
58:19Do you already have money allocated for that playground?
58:21We do. So...
58:22Do we move it to something else? Is that the...
58:23No, it's not. We don't have enough to finish it.
58:25You don't have enough.
58:26We have a good chunk, but we don't have enough to finish.
58:29So we're just continuing. And then, like, when we talked about the CDBG money, this is a great little nut for those kind of things.
58:36If we need benches, we need lighting. If we need...
58:39If we want to add playground equipment.
58:41If we want to swap stuff out.
58:43That's the perfect location for that.
58:46The veterans fountain that we're talking to Kim Judd on.
58:50This money will finish that.
58:52Can that money go towards the amphitheater?
58:55Which money? This money?
58:57Yeah, that...
58:58So we don't have a... We only have preliminary design for the amphitheater.
59:02We just got the 1.4 from the state, so that's going to get us to the next design step.
59:08I just had a conference call with East End Arts.
59:10I was with East End Arts yesterday with Catherine Curran and also with Richard Wines.
59:16And we had a long discussion about, like, a real strategic plan for East End Arts.
59:21So we're... I just sent an email this morning to East End Arts, to Jordan Rogoff, who was working with the Science Center,
59:27to see if they can... Because they need real classroom space.
59:30Some of those buildings don't work great for them.
59:32They need a real gallery.
59:34Yeah, they do.
59:35You know, so there's a lot of things they need.
59:36And I was like, well, let's come up with the overall plan and then just start hitting it.
59:40But this application, there's a lot of specific planned information that needs to be included.
59:45This is the first time I've ever completed a consolidated funding application.
59:49And it was wild.
59:50Like, it was a really cool experience.
59:52And the amount of, you know, teamwork and the amount of, like, data organization and reaching out for letters of support.
1:00:00Like, it's very specific to this project.
1:00:02You know, and I'm more than happy to do that a million more times.
1:00:06But within the time constraints that we have for this.
1:00:09You know, this is a really good opportunity.
1:00:11This could really close out this project and make it beautiful.
1:00:14And we have the match.
1:00:16Do they purposely release these grants with a short window to apply?
1:00:23The other, sometimes.
1:00:24To kind of weed out?
1:00:26So generally they go in rounds, right?
1:00:27So you'll see round for downtown revitalization, 16, 17, 18, 19.
1:00:32Annually Suffolk County does a round.
1:00:35Every year the state does consolidated funding application,
1:00:38which was like the common app for college, right?
1:00:40So all of the state agencies that have funding, some of them are pulling out of it now.
1:00:46But for the most part we use the CFA consolidated funding application.
1:00:50And you can clone a past application.
1:00:53So it helps a little, not a lot.
1:00:54A little bit.
1:00:55A little.
1:00:56But those are due usually at the end of July.
1:01:00And so if you'll remember last year we applied and then we got invited to do a pitch for the amphitheater.
1:01:06That's always a good sign when they take us.
1:01:08They take you up to wherever we had to go, somewhere up where I needed a passport up island to make a pitch for that.
1:01:15You get up and speak in front of the entire Loyola Regional Development Council, Economic Development Council.
1:01:21And then you cross your fingers and hope that you get it, which in that case we did.
1:01:27Again, these are, we don't know.
1:01:29So just a question for future projects.
1:01:32So I'm not talking about this, but future projects.
1:01:35It's the state of New York that sets the requirements.
1:01:38The restrictions on this, right?
1:01:39It has to be capital improvement.
1:01:40Depends on where the funding comes from.
1:01:42The only reason I ask is that ever, should we ever be asking our state senator and our assemblywoman and so forth to write letters.
1:01:50Like, I don't even want to use the word maintenance, but restorative projects.
1:01:54We have so many parking lots.
1:01:57And I know it's always supposed to be new, new, new.
1:01:59But we put in something new and we have so many things that need to be restored, renovated, repaired.
1:02:05I'll speak to that.
1:02:06I actually have drafted legislation.
1:02:07I drafted legislation with town attorney Emery Prudenti that we have brought up to the state senator, Senator Palumbo.
1:02:14And we're asking him to bring that before the Senate.
1:02:17For the parking rec fees.
1:02:18For the parking rec fees.
1:02:20So the 20% for repairs and maintenance.
1:02:21That's a really good.
1:02:22Separate that out of town law 277 and 274A.
1:02:25Yeah.
1:02:26So that's where we're at with that.
1:02:27If you can get that, that's the home run.
1:02:29The grant money, like I said, it's, I don't envision that because they think that if they give you something, you have to be able to.
1:02:36If they're going to invest in you, you have to be able to maintain what you have.
1:02:39Right.
1:02:40And so that's their.
1:02:41And I understand that.
1:02:42And they want a ribbon cutting and they're like, oh, they fixed their parking lot.
1:02:43It does feel like.
1:02:44I understand that.
1:02:45I understand that when it comes to maintaining swings and planters and other things like that.
1:02:50But when you're talking about, you know, Bayberry Park, Police Officers Memorial Park, when we need $300,000 for a parking lot, it's like that's the crucial component.
1:02:59And it's funding that we simply year after year don't have available.
1:03:03And so.
1:03:04I know.
1:03:05I understand about, you know, keeping and maintaining all the little things.
1:03:09If it was in the CDBG area, we could totally help with that.
1:03:13But it's like sort of outside of a lot of the windows that we have to get funding.
1:03:18And I'm not, I agree with you and I totally, and I think this is the better path because I think other municipalities have the same problem where you build stuff.
1:03:26You can't just keep building, building, building and then have no way to maintain it.
1:03:30And every time you build something new, it's another, you know, it's another entry on your capital list.
1:03:35And it's a capital project's maintenance schedule that now the taxpayer.
1:03:38That you can't maintain.
1:03:39Correct.
1:03:40So that's an important thing to really advocate for because, you know, like we're trying to figure out how to kind of like shell game stuff to get the money so, you know, Ray can use other money.
1:03:54But it has to be, it's got to always be a capital project.
1:03:57Like something somebody can take a picture in front of is really what.
1:04:01I just sympathize with Ray.
1:04:02Me too.
1:04:03I mean, like for four years that I've been.
1:04:04You know, fortunate to be on the board.
1:04:06It's like with the year after year trying to get specifically Bayberry Park done.
1:04:11The police officer in Royal Park.
1:04:12And it's like we can't get money for a parking lot.
1:04:15And it's just like, it's, you know.
1:04:18I wonder if like.
1:04:19Trying to think of other sources of credit.
1:04:21Like PBA or.
1:04:22But it's so less expensive to maintain as opposed to doing new.
1:04:27What's the purpose of building new if you can't maintain it?
1:04:30You know, it's a lot less expensive to maintain.
1:04:32Well those, yeah.
1:04:33Those are the things that.
1:04:34There's no way.
1:04:35There's no way into your long term.
1:04:36And which is why when we're talking about the town square, we're talking about having
1:04:39somebody else maintain it.
1:04:41You know, because we know how hard that is and it's not anybody's fault.
1:04:46It's just a costly thing and something breaks.
1:04:49And what you paid for in 2010 and 2020 cost five times as much.
1:04:54With the downtown, even with the lighting along the riverfront, that project between
1:04:59COVID and when we were ready to start it doubled in cost.
1:05:02And so it's always, it's always a little bit of a whack-a-mole, right?
1:05:08I think we're always trying to like.
1:05:10Timing is tough and inflation's wild and.
1:05:13Yeah.
1:05:14Just turn around.
1:05:15How close will we, if we should get this grant and then how close are we to the playground
1:05:20completion, having all the funds in place?
1:05:21That's the last piece of the puzzle.
1:05:23Yeah.
1:05:24Okay.
1:05:25So, and we're going to, you know, we keep applying, right?
1:05:26So we applied to NatGrid for some of the bigger pieces.
1:05:29We also can, we have a pitch deck that we plan to use.
1:05:30We're going to.
1:05:31We have a pitch deck that we plan to use to get private donations.
1:05:34People can name different pieces of equipment or different areas in the park for a relative
1:05:38or a loved one as a memorial.
1:05:39So those are the things that we're trying to figure out.
1:05:40So, I mean, there's also a chance that we're not going to be awarded this grant.
1:05:41Correct.
1:05:42That's true.
1:05:43And then there's a round two.
1:05:44Right.
1:05:45So in the meantime, it would probably be prudent to look at other projects that this
1:05:46second round million dollars could fund if we could get that done.
1:05:47Yeah.
1:05:48And then we're going to have to, you know, we're going to have to, you know, we're
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1:06:18you with doing so research we had a meeting with rec advisory and we're we're looking for every
1:06:24way possible to get funds raise funds anything to help the park so i'm sure i can get some of them
1:06:32to help like get my office to help i know you have a lot on your plate i think it's just about
1:06:37getting the information to us when we ask for it you know like we'll we'll make sure that we're
1:06:42asking for specific things um in a timely manner and if you can get that to us it's just data
1:06:48collection you know and you have access to things that i don't have access to and if we can connect
1:06:52with engineering i think that it would be very easy partnership because i know the ins and outs
1:06:57of what the parks need and you know as long as we communicate i don't think it should be an issue
1:07:03okay the wish list the worst year you know just i wish this is dust so well but you know we need
1:07:10to look at it because i know
1:07:12we've discussed it in the past but if you have an updated list of projects you want to get done
1:07:18send them over and we'll and then when we're looking because you know we'll get an email says
1:07:22this grant is opening for whatever and we'll research it and see if it fits any of those
1:07:27pockets and then we'll go for it okay uh i think the lights at the park you can park it
1:07:34yeah yeah um and we can talk about that too and how it could be it is a capital you know and if
1:07:40we can take this stotsky capital project
1:07:42so you have so many projects off your plate and then you maybe have money to shift towards that
1:07:45you know those are the those are the thoughts that we've been trying to you know that's that would be
1:07:51the goal you know so that you can yeah and then it's we're always like chasing our tail because
1:07:56everything just gets more and more expensive over time so you know never ends it doesn't
1:08:01it's just even like thinking about playground equipment and things like that so you have to
1:08:05see just clear like why you didn't buy a new playground because in 10 years you can't maintain
1:08:11it so so river and roots playground the by the you know the bid bid ma applied
1:08:18for funding and received funding through suffocating downtown revitalization so
1:08:22I'm not sure we may be one working on that but that's a whole replacement
1:08:26remove the tree project and that's like a good project yeah it's a capital
1:08:31project then if we can get that expand the community garden right come down
1:08:37Griffin Avenue open up to the point would be also it would be the best thing
1:08:45so that point you know we're thinking of things like that you know if something
1:08:48comes along or you know we're always kind of get to go back after they tell
1:08:54us how much money you got yeah I won't find out till it's a point to you all
1:08:58of this time all right what did they say when we find out no I haven't you're
1:09:04right I don't remember one of words they don't
1:09:07always
1:09:07tell you. It might be fall, I'm not sure. I can let you know because this is a lot to speed read right now.
1:09:14Yeah, thank you very much. So do we have the... Yeah, so the resolution's in the packet. Yep. We're gonna
1:09:20ratify because it's due tomorrow. Tomorrow, yeah. And it came up at the kind of last minute. Yeah, I didn't
1:09:27find out about it until like the end of March and then kind of just tried to speed through with the project
1:09:32change and everything, so. Very good. All right, great. Thank you. Thank you. Great.
1:09:39What are the hours of the drive-offs of the beach stickers? Um, we're going to the next one.
1:09:46Do you want to postpone it to next week? Yeah, that would be great. Okay. We'll postpone the next one until next week.
1:09:55Committee's are a work in progress. Denise, thank you because I was trying to push exactly...
1:10:01So people from...
1:10:02What you're doing and, you know, what I was trying to do with Jody, going to Palumbo I think is good.
1:10:08Can you stay here for one second? We'll get it to Jody. Maintenance on parks.
1:10:12An update on... I can't see all the names. He's on my radar. I'm seeing him today, too.
1:10:18I was gonna say, are you going today? As well as many phone calls and emails.
1:10:23Thank you for paying that.
1:10:27Did you bring money, Ashley? For the parks? I don't have any money. Okay.
1:10:32Yes, yes, okay. Thank you.
1:10:38I'm just hanging out. I asked Ray to stay.
1:10:40I just want to hang out with you guys.
1:10:42Okay.
1:10:43Hope for the next one? For the updates on the committee.
1:10:46Oh, no, what I couldn't do is... We're gonna push that off to next week.
1:10:48Oh, no. All right, so I might have to... Oh, okay. Thank you.
1:10:51That's why I needed him. I didn't have it. I don't know if it's in the orders if you want.
1:10:53If it's... Oh, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. Okay.
1:10:55I just... No, it's okay. Yeah, yeah, no. Just with the...
1:10:59The DGC and the Washington vote.
1:11:01Oh, yeah.
1:11:03The DGC and the Washington vote.
1:11:05Oh, yeah.
1:11:06It's being filed.
1:11:07Oh, okay.
1:11:08So we'll deal with that.
1:11:09Thank you. I'll talk to you.
1:11:10Okay, the last item we had set up for work session is matters surrounding update on committees.
1:11:14We're gonna push that to next week because not everybody has their updates prepared for today.
1:11:19So we will, you know, we'll discuss those next Thursday.
1:11:23Okay.
1:11:24Okay, now we'll move on to resolution.
1:11:26We'll move on to resos, which is not on that. I have to amend that to add it.
1:11:29That was my error. I inadvertently omitted it.
1:11:30Yeah.
1:11:31Okay.
1:11:32So we'll move on to that later on and post that for archival purposes to include the resos.
1:11:36And if the board's ready, we'll jump right into it.
1:11:38We're all ready.
1:11:39Okay.
1:11:40Resolution number one, budget adoption, CP72505, HUD home funds.
1:11:45That's just setting the budget for that.
1:11:49Resolution number two, Water District Capital Project number 82504, Nogles Barn, Hallockville.
1:11:58Resolution number three, authorizes the removal of fixed assets.
1:12:00One of which is a calculator, for the record.
1:12:05I'm sorry, I didn't, what, is it what?
1:12:07One of which is a calculator.
1:12:09I'm not making it up.
1:12:11No, I believe you.
1:12:13If it's the towns, it's probably in Abacus.
1:12:15Yeah.
1:12:16Could be, I don't know.
1:12:17Number four, approves travel for two Justice Court employees to attend Dewey Seminar.
1:12:25Number five, ratifies the provisional appointment of an Assistant Recreation Program Coordinator.
1:12:29Number six, appoints an accountant.
1:12:36Number seven, appoints a Senior Assessment Clerk.
1:12:43Rebecca Hazard's been provisional, this makes her permanent.
1:12:47Mm-hmm.
1:12:49Number eight, appoints a Seasonal Clerk to the Recreation Department.
1:12:53I'm told there's just a question on this, regarding civil service personnel and rec are just, you know,
1:12:58needing to finalize a detail or two on this, so this may need to change a little bit,
1:13:03but we await further word on that, so we'll let you guys know, of course.
1:13:08Number nine, appoints returning seasonal employees to the Recreation Department.
1:13:13Number ten, appoints new seasonal employees to the Recreation Department.
1:13:20Number eleven, appoints members to the Riverhead Farmland Preservation Committee.
1:13:26Number twelve, appoints Robert Merrick to the Town of Riverhead Emerging Technology Committee.
1:13:33Number thirteen, ratifies the resignation of a harbor master.
1:13:38Number fourteen, ratifies the resignation of a building permits examiner.
1:13:44Number fifteen, terminates an inactive employee from Riverhead Police Department.
1:13:50Number fifteen, ratifies the resignation of a building permits examiner.
1:13:54Number sixteen, classifies an unlisted action as unlisted pursuant to SECRA,
1:14:05assumes lead agency and issues a negative declaration for the site plan and special permit applications entitled
1:14:11Calverton Satellite Earth Station 317-319 Berman Blvd, Calverton, NY 7C TX PN 600-13520-1-16.
1:14:24Resolution number seventeen grants six month extension of preliminary site plan approval
1:14:31for the site plan application of 38 McDermott Avenue.
1:14:35A.k.a. 38 East Main Street Riverhead, NY. Suffolk County.
1:14:38Tax map number 600-129-4-10.1.
1:14:45Number eighteen amends resolution number 2526-2626.
1:14:47resolution number 2025-189 sandy pond clubhouse managers residence trade shop special permit 1521
1:14:55roanoke avenue riverhead new york suffolk county tax map number 600-82-1-12.1 and we have planner
1:15:02greg berman here he's going to just chat with you guys briefly about this resolution okay
1:15:05all right good morning everybody uh so this is just a minor amendment to the special permit
1:15:19resolution for the sandy pond clubhouse managers residence and trade shop application
1:15:25as i was preparing the report for the planning board i went back and looked at the resolution
1:15:28and i realized i forgot the secret recitation so all this does is just add the negative
1:15:34declaration language and it's just a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit
1:15:35to that special permit that was granted i mean again we had prepared the eafs you know it was all
1:15:40done i just omitted one paragraph so this will amend it and just say the town board hereby assumes
1:15:46lead agency and issues a negative declaration pursuant to secret that's it okay thank you
1:15:58okay resolution number 19 authorizes pursuit of suffolk county downtown revitalization round 23
1:16:04funding for improvements to
1:16:05third street municipal parking lots that's right here across the street
1:16:12number 20 ratifies authorization for an application for a new york state consolidated
1:16:17funding application cfa municipal parks and recreation grant we just spoke about that
1:16:24number 21 authorizes the town clerk to publish and post for request for proposals for the sale
1:16:29of 214 griffin avenue that's the white house that the town owns just beside our building here
1:16:35so she's clear she's clear
1:16:36she's clear she's clear
1:17:05public hearing to designate a parcel at 48 Willow Street, Suffolk County Tax Map
1:17:09number 600-87-1-14, located
1:17:13in the town of Riverhead as open space. Expand community preservation funds
1:17:17pursuant to Town Law 64E in the amount of $75,000 and approve
1:17:21budget transfer to restore trust and agency funds designated for wetland restoration
1:17:25and remediation in the amount of $75,000.
1:17:27Number 26.
1:17:35Authorizes Town Clerk to publish and post notice for public hearing for the site plan and special
1:17:39permit applications entitled Cavernton Satellite Earth Station 317-319
1:17:44Berman Boulevard, Suffolk County Tax Map number 600-135-
1:17:4913520-1-16.
1:17:53Number 27.
1:17:55Authorizes Town Clerk to publish and post notice to
1:17:57publish and post notice for public hearing for the site plan and special permit applications
1:17:57considered a local law to men chapter 301 of the Riverhead Town Code titled
1:18:01Zoning and Land Development Section 3 thereof titled Definitions Word Usage.
1:18:10Number 28.
1:18:11Awards bid for dry hydrated lime.
1:18:14Not lime. Lime.
1:18:19Number 29.
1:18:21Approves license agreement between
1:18:23Wadington Realty Corp. and the Town of Riverhead for utilization of Town of Riverhead
1:18:27parking facilities Nunc Pro Tunc.
1:18:30That's for LaPloche.
1:18:33Number 30.
1:18:35Ratifies authorization for the supervisor to sign a consultant professional services agreement
1:18:39with Kathleen Schroer.
1:18:45What's that for?
1:18:47So Kathy worked for us for many years, 32 years.
1:18:49Oh, right.
1:18:50Never mind.
1:18:51I just got a name confused.
1:18:52Thanks.
1:18:53I know what it is.
1:18:56Number 31.
1:18:57Approves agreement between Town of Riverhead and Windship Media LLC utilizing parking police
1:19:02personnel and police cars 2025 Jazz in the Vines.
1:19:09Number 32.
1:19:10Authorizes the supervisor to execute a license agreement with Stein Seafoods LLC to allow
1:19:15the operation of floating upweller systems Flopsy in East Creek Nunc Pro Tunc.
1:19:23Number 33.
1:19:24Approves special event chapter 255 application for duck pond.
1:19:31Number 34.
1:19:31Approves special event chapter 255 application for Riverhead Country Fair.
1:19:39Number 35.
1:19:40Approves special event chapter 255 application for Iglesia Familia de Diaz Riverhead for Christ.
1:19:50Number 36.
1:19:51Approves special event chapter 255 application for Dreamland Amusement Inc.
1:19:55East End Fair.
1:19:57Number 37.
1:19:58Approves special event chapter 255 application for Long Island Antique Power Association Summer
1:20:07Show, Fall Show and Tractor Pulls.
1:20:13Number 38.
1:20:14Pays the bills.
1:20:15And then we have three additional resolutions that didn't make it into the packet.
1:20:18You guys were emailed about them.
1:20:19You're aware of them.
1:20:20You have copies in front of you.
1:20:21And we'll post copies online.
1:20:22And of course make them available to the public.
1:20:23But first one is appoints an officer.
1:20:24And I'll make sure that you're aware of them.
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1:20:27The second one is an office assistant.
1:20:28The second one is the same thing.
1:20:29Those are positions for the building department.
1:20:30You know we're short staffed there.
1:20:31How come we don't have the names listed of the people we're hiring?
1:20:35They don't have the names in these particular listed in the title.
1:20:41But they're embedded in the body of the resolution.
1:20:43Why that is I'm not exactly sure.
1:20:44Except to just say.
1:20:45Where is that?
1:20:46I'm sorry.
1:20:47They're not in the title.
1:20:48But they're in the body of the resolution.
1:20:50Yeah.
1:20:51There are.
1:20:52There's one.
1:20:53I see Tara here.
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1:20:57yeah got it got it got it got it
1:21:02and the last resolution amends resolution 2025-128 east end arts mosaic festival rain
1:21:09date change so it's just a date change in case they need it
1:21:19and that's it
1:21:20okay well that concludes our open session of today's work session
1:21:29in a moment we're going to close it and go into executive session to discuss matters
1:21:35surrounding acquisition of real property with howard hurley and thomas so if i could have a
1:21:41motion to close work session and go into executive session so all in favor second second all in favor
1:21:49all opposed
1:21:50okay open session is closed we will now go into executive session thank you

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Okay. We are in our open session of part of the work session. And the first item we have up today are matters surrounding possible change to Chapter 251 and 252. uh regarding public nuisance and with that we have counselor howard and senior investigator downs from our code enforcement

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So the key revisions to the law, as discussed, were the definitions. We included thresholds for determining what a public nuisance is in 251.14. The revision specifies how a court official can assess the existence of a public nuisance, and the

public nuisance. The thresholds are clearly outlined and provide a procedural framework for decision making based on the following features. Frequency of violations, risks to public health and safety, community impact, and the non-compliance history. We included an inspection and evaluation process in the code. We included an inspection and evaluation process in the code. We included an inspection and evaluation process in the code. This includes probable cause. [transcription gap] The law requires probable cause to initiate any form of legal actions. [transcription gap] We included in this ordinance evidence gathering so that it's spelled out exactly how to gather evidence against a property that may or may not have a public nuisance. [transcription gap] gathering so that it's spelled out exactly how to gather evidence against a property that may or may not have a public nuisance. We've included very important documentation and due process for violations. This ensures that the notice of violation is served in the proper manner. We've included enforcement and escalation measures. That's if the property owner fails to abate the public nuisance. We could refer the matter over to the town attorney's office to start an action and request some sort of injunctive relief. We've also included civil proceedings and penalties. This code, you know, aligns with Article 65 of the CPLR, Civil Practice Law, and rules to ensure proper civil procedures are followed in enforcement actions. Civil penalties under 251.17 are described for cases where injunctive relief is sought and granted. We also included Justice Court measures in this code, so if we do come upon a house that has a public nuisance, we have the ability to also bring an action forward in justice. So very important, we've included a protection of individual rights in the code too. This is a critical addition to the revised code to safeguard for property owners and tenants, ensuring that the enforcement or nuisance laws do not infringe on their constitutional rights. It was not in our prior code, so this includes a clear stipulation that the code cannot be used to hinder an individual's ability to seek emergency assistance and make 911 calls. The conclusion, this revision provides a more comprehensive, systematic approach to identifying and addressing public nuisances, the inclusion of the newly defined terms, a structured process for determination, and a comprehensive process for clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear terrific tool for the courts it gives them clarity for definition of terms and procedures that are to be followed and it I you know and to your point about the district attorney's office what is a substantial crime to the district attorney's office may be very different to individuals living in a town and the delay it takes with the DA's office or frankly dismissed a lot of times and satisfaction of more serious crimes it gives us independence and not relying on the district attorney's office for convictions before we can proceed with public nuisances in our town I think you both very much for this I think it's a great help to several citizens that have come up and complained about conditions in the neighborhood deterioration on unsafe unsavory characters walking all around and you know wandering onto their property passing out drunk and such I think this helps a lot of those neighbors thank you thank you I have one question I think this is really good code where I have a problem is the amount of the fines and the civil penalties yes yes yeah the penalties for you know offenses justice court addition civil penalties right starting at $500 mm-hmm and I would like to see a start I would like to increase that to a thousand not exceeding two thousand and then seven thousand dollars and then I would like to increase that to a thousand not exceeding two thousand and then seven events started at two thousand and go and go to three thousand but the third offense should start at thirty five hundred no more than six thousand and only you know because you have you know repetition if it stated in this code like if it happens you know if every day you're going to get fine I just think that we've got it justifying to the crime legal problems okay no I don't see any legal problems with that I would just my comment to that would just be that you know if if something is so severe that we're seeking those types of those types of fines in justice court the chances are we're going to Supreme Court on this where the where the civil penalties we have from five thousand to ten thousand for each day so yes you know that could that could be a you know in in the additional penalty that that a property owner faces but I think that when we're looking at monetary penalties in connection with public nuisances we're mostly going to be looking for those from the Supreme Court in the context of civil so that's getting that said that's my only comment on that you know the to me the Justice Court violations here are not I mean they're they're important to have in there as a tool but those are mostly going to be for your less serious public nuisance where you're pursuing a Justice Court violation to try and I guess get the property owners attention and have some kind of fine in place for that short of going to Supreme Court if it's a significant serious situation that's when we would refer to Supreme where we're looking for those more substantial civil penalties that I get I'm just you know I'm just looking at the fact that you know still five hundred dollars you know every even yeah I mean starting at a thousand isn't going to make somebody want to go to Supreme Court right yeah I mean I think yeah I think on that first offense probably going to a thousand on that is is a good idea I would agree with the councilman to at least climb and reach up by five hundred dollars that started a thousand that's just I mean what it's costing us to have you know our code enforcement officers out there tying up you know our legal department teams and so forth it costs us a lot of money to prosecute these things and so forth and so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so this is peanuts right when was the last time that the minimum fine was looked at you know 20 years ago $500 might have been you know significant to some people but things are different now yeah I do want to spin off on what Eric said with respect to the fines though I mean this is the first course of action with this would be probably a notice of violation for a first that for a first violation let me see and then it could spin off into justice court at that time but I think if we're getting to and then we're getting no compliance I think what Eric said we're just going to go to Supreme Court to start for some sort of injunction which carries heavier civil penalties in this code I could also maybe increase you know the civil penalties that we have in here I don't know what they all know you put in five thousand ten thousand for each day so you know significantly high when you think about it right but it's I think it's well it's well-deserved it matches the crime because I know that you go back and forth back and forth back and forth right and it's a lot of legal work and it's a lot of code work way I look at it is determine what it's costing our code enforcement officer to go and then for you to evaluate it you to evaluate to then send somebody to court we figure we start figuring out payroll salaries for people in town and the amount of time that's allotted on a simple offense we need to start recuperating that it's a couple of those expenses I would just ask one question mr. Howard says prosecutions on these does this if as a prerequisite does this assist you in a Supreme Court action down the road if there are prior convictions on these yes so and that's sort of the way that the code is constructed so that you know where you have repeated violations it sort of builds up to that right so you can get citations under 251 I'd like to know if you have any questions on that I'm going to go to the next slide but the notice of violation or then conviction or plea of guilty in justice court and then you can then use that as a predicate for the Supreme Court action later on and that's the only reason I'm talking I guess in the context of the fines people more likely to plead guilty to it on the lesser amount but it helps build a case for you I guess in Supreme Court if you do have that individual that's a repeat offender where you can hit them with the big fine in Supreme Court that's that's my that's true too I mean I think I think there's I think there's a you know a good balance and consideration here in terms of what you know $500 actually means to property owner who is engaged in an ongoing public nuisance you know if if they are if they are doing that you know you're going to have a certain set of property owners who aren't going to worry about paying that fine and then there's other types of property owners who maybe just have a messy property that they just don't clean up for years and you know $500 would be significant to them and what's our relief in Supreme Court in a Supreme Court action in a Supreme Court action we would typically see conjunctive relief and civil penalties well so yeah injunctive relief in terms of directives either to cease a certain activity or remove certain items or people or individuals that's what I'm getting at do you want to say something about that? so you have much stronger powers in the Supreme Court action to really eradicate the problem right yeah yes that's how they can't pay higher fines I agree I'm just showing what the balancing can be sure a lot of this is going to involve rentals too so when we're looking at I mean we know of houses right now that are getting 75 hundred dollars a month yeah because they're a palace but because they have numerous people living Well, this code is really set up to address pretty much anything that comes up. So you can have your rentals. You can have your transient rentals that are causing disturbance to the community. You can have properties where they become a drain on emergency services for not necessarily legitimate reasons. You can have this apply to the person who is something of a hoarder or collects things in their front yard and has received repeated communications from code enforcement to remove those things. So it's very broad in terms of the types of violations and conditions that it can be used to address. Yeah, I also want to say that these are, for repeated occurrences, so in this code, repeated occurrences are more than two occurrences within a six-month period. So we're looking at those properties that really have those types of situations. These are repeated occurrences of prohibited activities and substandard housing. We're still going to have those mechanisms in the code to address overcrowded and high grass and weeds and other things. Unregistered vehicles and things like that. But when we look into this code, we're looking into serious issues that are occurring. So, so Rich, you know, this may be a stupid question, but what there is some, there is some shopping centers that have, I just went through one, Pothole, and it's been there now for a couple of weeks. Is this, is that a, that's a public nuisance? No? Or? I'd like to, I'm going to tell you why I would like to capture that somewhere, because, you know, you know the other one that we talked about, I said have code go every single day and find them, because I mean a little kid could get lost in some of those holes in that one place. You can get a canoe out. Yeah. No, seriously, but I mean, you know, people go through there and break an axle or, you know, it's. I don't think this specifically would address that situation. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Is there an objection by others to raise the fines? No. Not by me. So let's bring them up and start covering some of our costs. But it's great code, Rich. You know, I'm just, I'm just, I'd like to be more financial. I agree with you on raising the fines. I never have a problem with that. That's fine. This was good. You guys put a lot of work into this, a lot of information in here. It was needed. Yeah. It was needed. Thank you. Very good. So. It's going to be in a more lengthy report each month, Rich. Yeah. Yes. It is. If you want to take a look at that. So, my office will prepare a resolution. Schedule a public hearing for this. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah. [transcription gap] Good work. Thank you. Welcome. Thank you. Okay. Next up, we have matters surrounding introduction of online bill pay feature for Riverhead Water District. We have Bob Kern, Frank Mancini. That's April 14th. Chip Krenborg and Robin. Robin, how old is that? I'll keep you up. Okay. The brains of the office. Yes. Hi, guys. Hello. That's my favorite person. Here I am. Here I am. Did we get it done? Are we there? We are there. Okay. Good. We are there. Good. This is huge. This is just. This is exciting. Six years in the making. This is fantastic. It happens to be very new. It's a very new thing. It's a very new thing. It's so easy to do. [transcription gap] I have this. [transcription gap] location you can search with your account number there is a portal which is very very easy to navigate you don't have to register you can register yourself you can do it as a guest on if you want to sign up for auto pay you would register yourself you would in input your banking information you would store you click auto pay so as of the due date on your water bill it would auto pay we can go through the motions as far as searching registering yourself I've registered myself I've made a payment on it already Lisa tested it she said it's super easy took all the manual entry of the tax receiver out of the equation it post my payment everything auto generates it puts it into a batch overnight it updates the system my payment post to my water account they get a batch they close it and they get a new payment and they get a new payment and they close out their batch and we move on so rather than them having to go into every single account and posting that payment that has taken that whole manual entry out of it so if you guys want to see we can go through I'm going to pretend that I am owning the water district account because I've already registered myself so I'm going to first look up my account I'm going to pretend I don't know my account number I'm going to search for the water district account 1035 Pulaski and search so this brings up all of Pulaski Street keep in mind the owner name is going to be gone so it's just going to be the street addresses I'm going to grab mine there I am that's my account it's going to show you the last four billings with the usage and what's open you can also go in and see a PDF of your current bill my account there's my water bill just as I would see if I got it in the mail or email to me this is currently what went out the last time with the lead service line that's going to be off and we're going to have a big my new update on the bottom of the bill about go paperless and your payment options this is your water bill if you go back to now we're back to our account if I want to make a one-time payment I have two options to do it an e-check or a credit card payment I would click make a payment I would choose checking our credit so I did my checking account the last time and I would click continue because you notice this is your head we're negotiating the percentage on the credit card payment right now because it's set up to be two point nine five percent we're currently two point five on four head so we're trying to get them lower than 2.5 because we don't want to go up obviously we don't want it to be a higher thing we want it to be either comparable or lower to what our customers currently pay. I see some towns just do a flat fee like it's $2 to pay online or $1. An e-check is $1.95. That's a flat fee. It's a percentage on a credit card payment. AutoPay has no fee. So if you sign up for AutoPay, you just, it pays and there's no fee incurred by you. So I would click continue. I would go through the motions. I would put in my information, my routing, my account number, my billing information. I would head continue. It would confirm once again that this looks correct. And I would click pay. What that does is that sends it through the processing window at night. The web portal creates a batch for the tax receivers' office. All of those populate to the Water accounts. They get their batch in the morning. They clear, they close out their batch so you have full clear data. and all of their funds are populated and they get a report of who made payments on that window so all their manual entry is now gone if we wanted to go through a registration shift

full screen right yeah so the final changes we got notified will be done by the end of day today as far as yes as long as we can get everybody off the system so those pages with the owner field they just confirmed that with me today the percentage should be fine analyzed within the next couple of days and then we can push this out to the website so instead of going to the Forte payment window for for water bills it'll direct them right to this if we wanted to click as it to register our account what you would want to do oh hang on I have to do you have my phones in my in order we tested this with chip yesterday it can't be it if the town email address would be the address of the town email address would not send the code to it ultimately did though it ultimately did late yes well do you want me to try to do it do you have your sure phone can you access your email right now what does it take a long time well I'm already signed up so it won't send me another even if it's a different account I said do by okay because I could try mine so if I wanted to create a user ID I'm gonna pretend to be the water district so I'm gonna do Riverhead water oh it's gotta be about disregard so I'm going to try to do claim board yes very good and why go continue and it's going to send a code to your email address validating your email address you [transcription gap] get a lot of validating codes over the next few days I can use my press if you want okay hang on I'm just gonna say and I went for Robin this has been like Rob has been great you've been great tip has been great dime banks corporation you know this really came together yeah I want to thank you for corporation you know this really came together yeah I want to thank you for everybody else this is benefiting our customers, the water district, and the tax receiver, but it took a bunch of different departments to make this happen. It took a lot of coordination. It took a lot, but it's here. Right here. You did? I want to be the first to welcome you to the 21st century. How do I get through? Well, now that you've got two years now, get the back of the phone. Whatever you'd like. A few years. It did come in. Okay. This is the way it normally works in the real world. Like you sign up, you get an email, verification. Verification, right. One of the things that I do want to work with Robin on is the next bill, what it's going to look like. I think we need to do, I'll talk to you. Well, I have a mock up of what I have specced out so far. The one thing that I have to change with Edmunds, everything on this page is hard coded by Edmunds. Anything that I want, this all generates from the system. Wow. Your bills. Okay. This is the area on the front of your bill that I have to work with. Okay. So, but my back of the bill always has my notifications. We do our little thing. This is our water conservation and other things that we have to have at the bottom. So I have limited space on the front, but this is potentially what the front's going to be because a lot of people don't flip their page over. Good point. So we're ... It already exists. Oh, I can't use that one. All right. Okay. So I have a lot of things that I have to do. All right. So hang on. Oh. But it's not your code. Oh, yeah, because we didn't use yours yesterday. Yeah. Okay. Let's try it again. Sorry, guys. That's okay. These things always happen to me. I'm trying to show you how awesome it is. I'm going to sign you up again. Chip, what I'm wondering is if Jason could do a ... put a little video together that we can run on channel 22. All right. All sign up process and then instructions on how to do it. Okay. So, I'm going to sign up. Okay. So, I'm going to sign up. Okay. So, I'm going to sign up. Okay. So, I'm going to sign up. Okay. So, I'm going to sign up. All right. All sign up process and then instructions we can leave at the senior center and we ... at the different condo complexes. 368. And really get this thing moving. 362, 368. Yes. Got it. Okay. Okay. So, you're going to ... just like you would do for anything else, I would do ... I'm going to do you ... you know what? I'll pretend in you. Framborg. 631, 727. Okay. All right. All right. So, I'm going to ... I'll try that. ... order. Oh. 1035. Let me see. Order. 1035. Exclamation point. That's my standard. So, if anybody needs to get anything at the Water District, that's what it usually is. Uh-oh. We don't have a lot of variety there. Can we back up and erase the tape a little bit? Oh, sorry. Okay. So, we would create our account. We could do this with ... we can record this, and then we can put it out ... Oh, like one step by step. Yeah. This is being recorded. Yeah. Step by step. Right? Yeah. Right. But without any ... hit, you know, no mistakes. Yeah. Okay. Right? Yeah. Let's do that. There we go. We're going to sign in. Okay. We'll head over ... ... so ... [transcription gap] on channel 22. Gotcha. Once you are a registered user, it's going to bring you up. You're going to have a menu of things on the side where you can store your credit card information, your bank account information. You can register for auto pay. With the new portal that they're importing, there's going to be a checkbox to check right from there for e-billing, for paperless billing, so they don't have to go into two different portals to do that because right now you can't do that. It would be a two-step thing where you would have to go to one portal to register for e-billing. So it needs to all live in one nice, comfortable place where everybody can access it. And you can make your payments from there. The nice thing is that you can view your account online. You, particularly when your last payments were, what your usage was for the last four cycles, you can see your bill. It's the one biggest question we get all the time because right now through Forte, it's a generic form. You click that you want to pay. It has, as you populate all your information, it doesn't bring up your account. It doesn't know your account information. It doesn't know how much you owe. So everybody has to call first, get their account number, get how much is owed. You can pay whatever you want. You can make a partial payment, whatever you want to do. It's not going to reject it because it's a partial payment or an overpayment. We set about setting boundaries for overpayments. I believe 10% of them are overpayments. I believe taxed at $1,000 is fine as long as, you know, you don't want to ever carry too much overpayment. My thing is that we don't want to have to incur a refund to somebody. It's a time process to make a refund to somebody. So you don't want to have people, you know, if people have extra money that they throw extra $1,000 on. I get it, the summer comes and you don't want to get hit with that big bill. But if you sell your house, now you have this big credit on there, I have to give it back to you. It's going to take a while. It's going to take about a month for me to get you a refund. So we try to avoid that situation. But other than that, I find it very easy to register myself. I found it very easy to make a payment. I don't have to be in auto pay. I want to go in and pay when I want. You can do that. You know, I pay my $1.95 for my e-check payment and I'm okay with that. I pay $1.95 when I pay my taxes. It's pretty simple. It's just a nice sort of. It's a nice little tool that people can go on when they have a question, go see their things. We can direct them to that. And it doesn't always, you know, have to be a phone call. People want that. They want to be able to see their account online. They don't always want to trust me when they call and say, I didn't bill for this much last time. You did and I can give you a report, but you can't see it yourself. People want that, that they can see their information online. So it's pretty big. It's big for us. That's just great. This is great. We're moving along. We need to get, we'll get the word out. I'll work with you on that. Yeah. I will do that. So we really get a lot of people signing up. Yeah, it would be great. You know, auto pay is great. It's, you know, everybody will, you know, people are used to that. People want to have that option. People don't want to mail a check anymore. You know, they don't want, you know, people don't even have checks anymore. Sure. So, you know. Good work. It's awesome. Excellent. I do have a question. Yeah. So the first page, property location. Yeah. So is this the same as the tax receivers portal that you do not put in, let's say that you're on West Main Street. You don't put the word street. It's just West Main. So when I just put in 1035 Pulaski, you did not have to populate the street. So you didn't have to do street, avenue, place. It pulled it up. But you just need, you can just put Pulaski Street and it will bring up everything. You can put the number and Pulaski and it will bring up, you know, from that moment on so that you can make sure that you're picking the right one. But if you put street or avenue, it will still accept it because the tax portal will not. We could test it. We could. So let's do. Well, it's a look up. So it's not going. Yeah. So the tax portal is just like this. But if you put in Pulaski Street, nothing will come up. You haven't put Pulaski. So it pulled it. It worked with me doing street. Street. It works. [transcription gap] Without me putting in street. Put in Oak. Oak. Because we have a couple. Yeah. We have a lot of oak. So how do we. How many oaks come up. So Oak. You're going to get all your oaks. You're going to get. Oak. Oak lane. Oak drive. Oak drive. Oak. [transcription gap] This is the one also, I mean, not a lot of people know their tax map number, but it brings up your section block and lot.

This is great. So it's, for us, it's huge. At the bottom of this page where it says Town and Riverhead and so forth, we're going to tweak that a little bit so it's going to have your fees down there before you even go into it. Any other pertinent information we think that you need before you go a step further will be right here at the bottom so that you're not questioning, you know, what are my fees, how do I look something up. So this is just generic for right now because the portal is pretty new, but it's something that we can change. We don't have to go back to Edmunds and have them change it for us. That's something that's changeable by us. I think that's about it. So the new portal we could possibly have up by the end of today if we're able to coordinate getting everybody off the system. Otherwise, it could be done at another time. Correct. Before we push this out and the fee, we're still, we should hear in the next. Very soon. Yeah. For the moment, it's 2.25. So you'll give us a launch date so that when we put it on Channel 22, people will know. I would say once we have the fee solidified, then we would have a, we would. We could have a launch date. We could do a launch immediately. Right. There's nothing that would stop us from doing that. We just want to have that. We could go right now. We could go right now except that the owner is there and it's 2.95. So I don't want to put it out there to somebody that wants to jump on and make a payment and they're paying 2.95 and then next week it's 2.5. You know, that would not be helpful. I'm so happy for you, Robin. Oh my gosh. I really am. It's just a beautiful thing. And in tax, the collection process. Yeah. Is so much easier. So much easier. So it's just, because it's all working together. We always had this web portal. It was always a thing in Edmunds. It's just that taxes system and our system weren't the same. They had VAS then they went to Forte and they just never were on the same page. And now with the web portal, this is what it's designed for. We're going to have a barcode scanner for them. So when people come in with their stub, they can just scan this code. So it's no keying in. They just scan the code. And put in the payment. It's really, really good. And I mean, Edmunds for us, I don't know if everybody loves Edmunds. I love Edmunds because anything I've ever asked for them to do, they're on it and they do it. And they're very responsive. And this is a portal that's been around for a long time. And it's proven. And it's... And we're ready for the next quarter. We're ready for the... Yep. Yep. So May bills will go out with this. Okay. So May bills will go out with this. That's my plan. Okay. And once they log on, they don't get a paper bill anymore. Is that right? If they register for paperless, they will not get a paper bill. They get an email, it comes up paperless water at townofriverheadny.gov. Excellent. They get their paper bill front and back like that. And if that's what they choose, ultimately that's the huge goal for everybody to go paperless because it makes... Cuts down... See about postage too. You know, $30,000 in postage, mailing water bills, and all that stuff. So it's a great way to get people to go paperless. And it's a great way to get people to go paperless. And it's a great way to get people to go paperless. I mean, I remember running numbers on this a couple of years ago, and it's very, very expensive. I didn't have a clear head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head [transcription gap] head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head thousand dollars in postage mailing water bills a year is a lot. Justin, do you want to use the ceiling camera and shoot the back of the bill here? It's physical work. They produce the bill, her and Melissa in the office. It's a lot of physical work. I mean, I remember running numbers on this a couple years ago and it's very, very expensive. And the taxpayers, you know, are paying for that. This will lower that cost completely. It's going to go away. Just paper and postage and ink and envelopes and, you know, the time. It's just, it's... That's the back of the bill. Yep, so that'll be up on our website. That'll be on the back of the bill. You'll get it either paper or paperless. And we'll have our blurb on the front of the bill for the people that don't like to flip the bill over, don't realize that there's a back on the bill. And they'll have their options. And Frank probably doesn't get nervous when she presents, probably. She's fantastic. I'm thankful she came today. This is my gig. This is my gig. She did all the work. I know. This is my thing. This is my baby. I really appreciate it. You should be very proud. Very good job. In terms of a water project, this is the least that Frank has ever spoken of. Thank you very much. You did a wonderful job. You're welcome. You're welcome. You can't guarantee me on anything else. This is my spiel. This is simply his. My thing. You're up. This is like how it works in the office. And if anybody has any questions regarding any of it, just call us. Me and Melissa, we you know, we do this all day, every day. Excellent. Very good. We're good. We're ready. Thanks guys. Thank you guys. Change of passwords. Next up, we have matters surrounding New York State Municipal Parks and Recreation Grant with Thomas and Keller. Wait, this is you. Hello. Hello. I have mine too. I think this was the extra one. I think this was the extra one. Good morning. Very good. How are you? I didn't hear you well. I had to go online and hear you. What did I do? Yeah, I would say that's probably. So we're just following up on last week's discussion regarding the application for this Office of Parks and Recreation Historic Preservation Grant. Just to overview, it's $10 million that's available in two different rounds this year. Recently announced short window to apply. Up to a million dollars per project with a 10% match. And so we tasked Liz as the recreation expert to kind of like hunt around and see what we thought would work. I know she spent some time speaking to Ray regarding the potential grant opportunities in particular the lighting at the ball field. So that was one. That jumped out first. Yeah. That's a good project. But then we received a lot of feedback. A really, really large quote. Yeah. Can it be a multitude of projects or does it have to be a single item? So I'll just give you the overview of the project. So it has to be a capital improvement. So and it has to be to develop new municipal parks and to improve natural, ecological, cultural, and recreational resources at existing parks. And so wouldn't it be a maintenance opportunity? It would be, it's a capital expenditure. So construction or new. And so the ball field lighting was something obviously we've been looking at for a while. And the cost, the project cost was too high. And the thing about downtown which is a wonderful thing is the opportunity to match the grants with other grants. And so we try to not lay out taxpayer money or use park and rec money if we can avoid it. Because downtown is low to moderate income area. So we can use community development block grant funds to match. And so that's where we were getting the 10% of the million dollars. It's a super easy fit. We have all the, and because it's a short window for the grant, we have a lot of data and all the information on through this consolidated funding application already. Because we've already used that system to apply. So I think after, and I'll let you finish up what your research resulted in. But ultimately it was our recommendation that the application be made for the playground at the town square. Yeah, given the time that we had and then the inability to match with the really large quote that came in for the lights at Betts. And then I wound up discussing alternate projects with Ray Coyne. And we decided that he was going to maybe pursue a match with you just through conversation. You want to come up, Ray? And then I also spoke with him. Sure, we're not alone. Should I wait? Yeah, wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry. I need to sit shy in the back. No, I was just come down here. Sorry. No, that's fine. And then I spoke with Shannon Clifford over at Engineering and I wound up getting this really great list of all the projects that are kind of on the docket. Ray also shared with me a spreadsheet for projects that were on the docket as well. But by that point, the turnover between the application process and the due date, it wouldn't really have been possible to get the information completed by tomorrow's date. And the match. And the match as well. The match was the bigger issue. So you need to come up with the 10 percent. And that comes out of the original grant, the 10 percent? It comes out of Community Development Block Grant. So we use those for downtown low to moderate income areas. They can be used for Stotsky Park. So in the past we've spoken to Ray because that's within that low to moderate area. So if he had a new project, so like the CDBG has to be a project. It can't be a maintenance. But if we use it for a new project that they have on their list, we can then shift money that he had on his budget for that project to maintenance if he wants to. We've worked on a little of that in the past. So just a question, like Ken Tester worked on in the beginning of the week. So we have all our bathrooms installed and we have our veterans motor park ready to turn them on. But we don't have sidewalks around them. And we need to install sidewalks. We need to bring them down to the parking area so they're ADA compliant and keep people out of the mud and stuff like that. So he had put that out and that's like $24,000. And it would be nice to put some picnic tables around there and a bike rack, maybe two bike racks outside. But it's $24,000. Maybe with some picnic tables and so forth, $25,000 we don't have. That's a capital improvement project. So there's nothing there. It's dirt right now. It's a new project. So with something like this, could this be felt? Ken already has the quotes that he can give you today. I'm just trying to find ways to complete that project so that we can say, okay, this is done. We cannot use CDBG for that because it's not low to moderate income areas. The match would be out of your pocket. But that's not a huge match. It's just for an opportunity for up to a million dollars. It's kind of a nice thing to go hit the bigger projects that we need to find. That's why I was wondering, could it be a multitude of other projects? So you're saying you only got to pick one. So you're going to pick one expensive project. When you think about grants, you have to remember that the granting entity wants to come down and do a ribbon cutting and show and put a sign on the project that they did. So that's why, and also just in terms of the maintenance aspect of it, they are not going to invest in something that you haven't maintained. Right? So they're going to look at you and say, well, we're going to invest this money and we're not going to get a good return on investment. Also, it's not a great photo op. So if you can incorporate those maintenance projects into a capital project, that's something to talk about. We can work on those. So for instance, if you wanted to do a stormwater runoff rain garden that involved the parking area, that was something that between engineering and us you could find necessary. And then we would need a full-on budget for that in order to make the application. We can't gash that number. We need to have actual quotes and things like that. And so with this one, it was a short window, a big number. It could be a nice hit if we could get it. And it just made the most sense to kind of direct it in this way. There is a round two. If you wanted to choose to not approve this project, we could research moving forward what could be applied to a round two. We're not saying we're not approving it. We're just learning about the process. 100%. That's why we're here. I am too. I didn't know if there was an overall, if it benefited to put a whole park plan. These are all the new things. We need adaptive playgrounds in different parks. Like in Wayne River. Can you put a package? So my question last time was could you put a package that there are ten projects within a town that are all new capital projects that are going to upgrade all of the parks to have handicap accessible playground equipment and things like that. Could you do that? And then you're dressing up the town as a whole as opposed to just narrowing down to one spot. Not in the Calverton location with the CDBG money. So with alternate match funds potentially, yeah. Absolutely. But match funds would go a long way. I mean Ray's got 149,000 right now. Roughly. Yes. We have two bears on the top of that list. So if he wants to do a tennis court and a basketball court, it's new. Yes. Okay. That would qualify. He uses the match funds and then he has funds to do the other projects that Ken is talking about. Yes. That's what we've been working on in the past. Particularly with CDBG because if we can use grant money to do the Stotsky Park capital project if you want to add a ball field or something like that then he frees up his budget to do other things. We've had this conversation in the past. So for sure you could do that. There's quite a few projects on the list. Yes. There are quite a few projects on the list. When is round two? They didn't specify. It'll be during this year. Probably later in the year, August, September or something like that. So if those likes didn't qualify then for this particular grant, right? Right. No. They did qualify. They did qualify for the grant. But the money that Community Development has couldn't be put towards the match because it's restricted to the area. It's got to be like the Stotsky Park area. It's got to be downtown and that area extends up into Stotsky. And that's a really flexible fund. We get it every year from the county. It's from HUD. It comes from HUD. It gets administered through CED. It comes from Suffolk County and it comes to us. And every year we get a nice chunk and we spend it on different projects. So you have a resolution for one today, actually. So we have a couple of landscape crews that are donating to the town. And we spoke to Ray about building soccer fields up on Veterans Memorial Park utilizing that field. They even talked themselves like, oh we have a company that says we would donate irrigation. I said, well that's wonderful but we don't have any water up there. Could you even put the water saying that if you put that fire hydrant line that came through, that water line came through and then somebody else then stepped up and did the irrigation stuff like that. Could that be part of the overall project? So this could be used for... It gets water in the park. I think... That's a capital project. Let's just say... It could also fill a well. It can be used for necessary costs of construction. So I think... That's a good question. I'd like to look a little more. It's possible. We'd need the plan for the big project. So we'd need the total project plan and then the cost of this component. And we would move to get the grant on that component of the overall project plan which is X million dollars. You know, whatever it is. Again, match is important. Like when we talked about the lighting, it just couldn't get done with the cost of the lighting. There was just not enough funding to have it. We can't have the free match and we can't use this really convenient match fund to supplement it. So we can do projects then in the future at Stotsky Park. Yeah, yeah. We've talked about this in the past. Because we're going to need lights at Stotsky Park. So as long as it's not a maintenance project, it's a capital improvement. So if it's like a change out to LED, you want to change out a playground, for sure. We talked about this with the tennis coach. We couldn't do temporary pickleball. We couldn't do movable stuff. It had to be a permanent capital improvement to Stotsky. And then, you know, if you have money set aside for that, yeah, it goes back to your kitty for whatever you want to use it for. Unless it's park and rec money, in which case you can't use it for maintenance. But, you know, if you had other money... But it's 10%. So whatever the project would cost, it would be 10%. It depends on the grant. It depends on the grant. Arguably, for this particular project. Sometimes it's 20, sometimes it's 10, sometimes it's 50. It depends on... every single grant is different. What about the new West Eccles Skateboard Park? It's going to be on the other side of Stotsky Park. I've been researching grants for that as well. So you're going to be sending me more information on what the group that is currently organized and is fundraising. Oh, yes. The Dexpr. So they have enough funds in there, Kitty, now to do the plans and the specs, right? So that's what we will need to get the bigger money, which we talked to them about. So this may be, if they're done with that by the next round, that could be an opportunity to apply for that. But right now, there's not enough money. But right now, there's not enough budget. Like, I can't... we can't invent the budget. We need actual numbers from an actual... It's a good idea to kind of go forward with that. No, and Liz is on that. So, you know, we're totally focused on that. That's on county property. Are they working with us? Are they going for any grants for that new skate park? We haven't discussed that with them. That might be, you know, something worth discussing because I don't want to see us foot the entire bill. I don't want to see us foot the entire bill. I don't want to see us foot the entire bill. And that might be useful if they can help get some grants. Well, there's always... As we get closer to having an actual drawing, you know, that's always the good thing to be able to go to the county with and say, Hey, this is on your property. What are you thinking you could work with us on? We would do that networking for sure. So we're currently working on the resolution for the county to pass to approve the project. Yeah. And they've been, you know, we're working on support letters for their grants that they're doing on the private end. And they're going to be... And, you know, as soon as we have an opportunity that comes up. What we got from engineering and what we have from you guys is great because we know what people are looking for. And that's generally what we do. Like, what is your project? What do you need? Like, PD needs cars. You know, so we're kind of like always researching and looking for the next thing. So what's at the top of the list then now? So what are you thinking? What's the... In the short time notice we have? Well, this definitely... The grant is ready to be submitted. It's due tomorrow. It's a treatable. That's why... And what is it for? It's for the town square playground. Town square playground. Which is fully designed, fully engineered, fully budgeted, ready to go. Do you already have money allocated for that playground? We do. So... Do we move it to something else? Is that the... No, it's not. We don't have enough to finish it. You don't have enough. We have a good chunk, but we don't have enough to finish. So we're just continuing. And then, like, when we talked about the CDBG money, this is a great little nut for those kind of things. If we need benches, we need lighting. If we need... If we want to add playground equipment. If we want to swap stuff out. That's the perfect location for that. The veterans fountain that we're talking to Kim Judd on. This money will finish that. Can that money go towards the amphitheater? Which money? This money? Yeah, that... So we don't have a... We only have preliminary design for the amphitheater. We just got the 1.4 from the state, so that's going to get us to the next design step. I just had a conference call with East End Arts. I was with East End Arts yesterday with Catherine Curran and also with Richard Wines. And we had a long discussion about, like, a real strategic plan for East End Arts. So we're... I just sent an email this morning to East End Arts, to Jordan Rogoff, who was working with the Science Center, to see if they can... Because they need real classroom space. Some of those buildings don't work great for them. They need a real gallery. Yeah, they do. You know, so there's a lot of things they need. And I was like, well, let's come up with the overall plan and then just start hitting it. But this application, there's a lot of specific planned information that needs to be included. This is the first time I've ever completed a consolidated funding application. And it was wild. Like, it was a really cool experience. And the amount of, you know, teamwork and the amount of, like, data organization and reaching out for letters of support. Like, it's very specific to this project. You know, and I'm more than happy to do that a million more times. But within the time constraints that we have for this. You know, this is a really good opportunity. This could really close out this project and make it beautiful. And we have the match. Do they purposely release these grants with a short window to apply? The other, sometimes. To kind of weed out? So generally they go in rounds, right? So you'll see round for downtown revitalization, 16, 17, 18, 19. Annually Suffolk County does a round. Every year the state does consolidated funding application, which was like the common app for college, right? So all of the state agencies that have funding, some of them are pulling out of it now. But for the most part we use the CFA consolidated funding application. And you can clone a past application. So it helps a little, not a lot. A little bit. A little. But those are due usually at the end of July. And so if you'll remember last year we applied and then we got invited to do a pitch for the amphitheater. That's always a good sign when they take us. They take you up to wherever we had to go, somewhere up where I needed a passport up island to make a pitch for that. You get up and speak in front of the entire Loyola Regional Development Council, Economic Development Council. And then you cross your fingers and hope that you get it, which in that case we did. Again, these are, we don't know. So just a question for future projects. So I'm not talking about this, but future projects. It's the state of New York that sets the requirements. The restrictions on this, right? It has to be capital improvement. Depends on where the funding comes from. The only reason I ask is that ever, should we ever be asking our state senator and our assemblywoman and so forth to write letters. Like, I don't even want to use the word maintenance, but restorative projects. We have so many parking lots. And I know it's always supposed to be new, new, new. But we put in something new and we have so many things that need to be restored, renovated, repaired. I'll speak to that. I actually have drafted legislation. I drafted legislation with town attorney Emery Prudenti that we have brought up to the state senator, Senator Palumbo. And we're asking him to bring that before the Senate. For the parking rec fees. For the parking rec fees. Yes. So the 20% for repairs and maintenance. That's a really good. Separate that out of town law 277 and 274A. Yeah. So that's where we're at with that. If you can get that, that's the home run. The grant money, like I said, it's, I don't envision that because they think that if they give you something, you have to be able to. If they're going to invest in you, you have to be able to maintain what you have. Right. And so that's their. And I understand that. And they want a ribbon cutting and they're like, oh, they fixed their parking lot. It does feel like. I understand that. I understand that when it comes to maintaining swings and planters and other things like that. But when you're talking about, you know, Bayberry Park, Police Officers Memorial Park, when we need $300,000 for a parking lot, it's like that's the crucial component. And it's funding that we simply year after year don't have available. And so. I know. I understand about, you know, keeping and maintaining all the little things. If it was in the CDBG area, we could totally help with that. But it's like sort of outside of a lot of the windows that we have to get funding. And I'm not, I agree with you and I totally, and I think this is the better path because I think other municipalities have the same problem where you build stuff. You can't just keep building, building, building and then have no way to maintain it. And every time you build something new, it's another, you know, it's another entry on your capital list. And it's a capital project's maintenance schedule that now the taxpayer. That you can't maintain. Correct. So that's an important thing to really advocate for because, you know, like we're trying to figure out how to kind of like shell game stuff to get the money so, you know, Ray can use other money. But it has to be, it's got to always be a capital project. Like something somebody can take a picture in front of is really what. I just sympathize with Ray. Me too. I mean, like for four years that I've been. You know, fortunate to be on the board. It's like with the year after year trying to get specifically Bayberry Park done. The police officer in Royal Park. And it's like we can't get money for a parking lot. And it's just like, it's, you know. I wonder if like. Trying to think of other sources of credit. Like PBA or. But it's so less expensive to maintain as opposed to doing new. What's the purpose of building new if you can't maintain it? You know, it's a lot less expensive to maintain. Well those, yeah. Those are the things that. There's no way. There's no way into your long term. And which is why when we're talking about the town square, we're talking about having somebody else maintain it. You know, because we know how hard that is and it's not anybody's fault. It's just a costly thing and something breaks. And what you paid for in 2010 and 2020 cost five times as much. With the downtown, even with the lighting along the riverfront, that project between COVID and when we were ready to start it doubled in cost. And so it's always, it's always a little bit of a whack-a-mole, right? I think we're always trying to like. Timing is tough and inflation's wild and. Yeah. Just turn around. How close will we, if we should get this grant and then how close are we to the playground completion, having all the funds in place? That's the last piece of the puzzle. Yeah. Okay. So, and we're going to, you know, we keep applying, right? So we applied to NatGrid for some of the bigger pieces. We also can, we have a pitch deck that we plan to use. We're going to. We have a pitch deck that we plan to use to get private donations. People can name different pieces of equipment or different areas in the park for a relative or a loved one as a memorial. So those are the things that we're trying to figure out. So, I mean, there's also a chance that we're not going to be awarded this grant. Correct. That's true. And then there's a round two. Right. So in the meantime, it would probably be prudent to look at other projects that this second round million dollars could fund if we could get that done. Yeah. And then we're going to have to, you know, we're going to have to, you know, we're going to have to, you know, we're going to have to, you know, we're going to have to head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head [transcription gap] head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head [transcription gap] head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head you with doing so research we had a meeting with rec advisory and we're we're looking for every way possible to get funds raise funds anything to help the park so i'm sure i can get some of them to help like get my office to help i know you have a lot on your plate i think it's just about getting the information to us when we ask for it you know like we'll we'll make sure that we're asking for specific things um in a timely manner and if you can get that to us it's just data collection you know and you have access to things that i don't have access to and if we can connect with engineering i think that it would be very easy partnership because i know the ins and outs of what the parks need and you know as long as we communicate i don't think it should be an issue okay the wish list the worst year you know just i wish this is dust so well but you know we need to look at it because i know we've discussed it in the past but if you have an updated list of projects you want to get done send them over and we'll and then when we're looking because you know we'll get an email says this grant is opening for whatever and we'll research it and see if it fits any of those pockets and then we'll go for it okay uh i think the lights at the park you can park it yeah yeah um and we can talk about that too and how it could be it is a capital you know and if we can take this stotsky capital project so you have so many projects off your plate and then you maybe have money to shift towards that you know those are the those are the thoughts that we've been trying to you know that's that would be the goal you know so that you can yeah and then it's we're always like chasing our tail because everything just gets more and more expensive over time so you know never ends it doesn't it's just even like thinking about playground equipment and things like that so you have to see just clear like why you didn't buy a new playground because in 10 years you can't maintain it so so river and roots playground the by the you know the bid bid ma applied for funding and received funding through suffocating downtown revitalization so I'm not sure we may be one working on that but that's a whole replacement remove the tree project and that's like a good project yeah it's a capital project then if we can get that expand the community garden right come down Griffin Avenue open up to the point would be also it would be the best thing so that point you know we're thinking of things like that you know if something comes along or you know we're always kind of get to go back after they tell us how much money you got yeah I won't find out till it's a point to you all of this time all right what did they say when we find out no I haven't you're right I don't remember one of words they don't always tell you. It might be fall, I'm not sure. I can let you know because this is a lot to speed read right now. Yeah, thank you very much. So do we have the... Yeah, so the resolution's in the packet. Yep. We're gonna ratify because it's due tomorrow. Tomorrow, yeah. And it came up at the kind of last minute. Yeah, I didn't find out about it until like the end of March and then kind of just tried to speed through with the project change and everything, so. Very good. All right, great. Thank you. Thank you. Great. What are the hours of the drive-offs of the beach stickers? Um, we're going to the next one. Do you want to postpone it to next week? Yeah, that would be great. Okay. We'll postpone the next one until next week. Committee's are a work in progress. Denise, thank you because I was trying to push exactly... So people from... What you're doing and, you know, what I was trying to do with Jody, going to Palumbo I think is good. Can you stay here for one second? We'll get it to Jody. Maintenance on parks. An update on... I can't see all the names. He's on my radar. I'm seeing him today, too. I was gonna say, are you going today? As well as many phone calls and emails. Thank you for paying that. Did you bring money, Ashley? For the parks? I don't have any money. Okay. Yes, yes, okay. Thank you. I'm just hanging out. I asked Ray to stay. I just want to hang out with you guys. Okay. Hope for the next one? For the updates on the committee. Oh, no, what I couldn't do is... We're gonna push that off to next week. Oh, no. All right, so I might have to... Oh, okay. Thank you. That's why I needed him. I didn't have it. I don't know if it's in the orders if you want. If it's... Oh, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. Okay. I just... No, it's okay. Yeah, yeah, no. Just with the... The DGC and the Washington vote. Oh, yeah. The DGC and the Washington vote. Oh, yeah. It's being filed. Oh, okay. So we'll deal with that. Thank you. I'll talk to you. Okay, the last item we had set up for work session is matters surrounding update on committees. We're gonna push that to next week because not everybody has their updates prepared for today. So we will, you know, we'll discuss those next Thursday. Okay. Okay, now we'll move on to resolution. We'll move on to resos, which is not on that. I have to amend that to add it. That was my error. I inadvertently omitted it. Yeah. Okay. So we'll move on to that later on and post that for archival purposes to include the resos. And if the board's ready, we'll jump right into it. We're all ready. Okay. Resolution number one, budget adoption, CP72505, HUD home funds. That's just setting the budget for that. Resolution number two, Water District Capital Project number 82504, Nogles Barn, Hallockville. Resolution number three, authorizes the removal of fixed assets. One of which is a calculator, for the record. I'm sorry, I didn't, what, is it what? One of which is a calculator. I'm not making it up. No, I believe you. If it's the towns, it's probably in Abacus. Yeah. Could be, I don't know. Number four, approves travel for two Justice Court employees to attend Dewey Seminar. Number five, ratifies the provisional appointment of an Assistant Recreation Program Coordinator. Number six, appoints an accountant. Number seven, appoints a Senior Assessment Clerk. Rebecca Hazard's been provisional, this makes her permanent. Mm-hmm. Number eight, appoints a Seasonal Clerk to the Recreation Department. I'm told there's just a question on this, regarding civil service personnel and rec are just, you know, needing to finalize a detail or two on this, so this may need to change a little bit, but we await further word on that, so we'll let you guys know, of course. Number nine, appoints returning seasonal employees to the Recreation Department. Number ten, appoints new seasonal employees to the Recreation Department. Number eleven, appoints members to the Riverhead Farmland Preservation Committee. Number twelve, appoints Robert Merrick to the Town of Riverhead Emerging Technology Committee. Number thirteen, ratifies the resignation of a harbor master. Number fourteen, ratifies the resignation of a building permits examiner. Number fifteen, terminates an inactive employee from Riverhead Police Department. Number fifteen, ratifies the resignation of a building permits examiner. Number sixteen, classifies an unlisted action as unlisted pursuant to SECRA, assumes lead agency and issues a negative declaration for the site plan and special permit applications entitled Calverton Satellite Earth Station 317-319 Berman Blvd, Calverton, NY 7C TX PN 600-13520-1-16. Resolution number seventeen grants six month extension of preliminary site plan approval for the site plan application of 38 McDermott Avenue. A.k.a. 38 East Main Street Riverhead, NY. Suffolk County. Tax map number 600-129-4-10.1. Number eighteen amends resolution number 2526-2626. resolution number 2025-189 sandy pond clubhouse managers residence trade shop special permit 1521 roanoke avenue riverhead new york suffolk county tax map number 600-82-1-12.1 and we have planner greg berman here he's going to just chat with you guys briefly about this resolution okay all right good morning everybody uh so this is just a minor amendment to the special permit resolution for the sandy pond clubhouse managers residence and trade shop application as i was preparing the report for the planning board i went back and looked at the resolution and i realized i forgot the secret recitation so all this does is just add the negative declaration language and it's just a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit to that special permit that was granted i mean again we had prepared the eafs you know it was all done i just omitted one paragraph so this will amend it and just say the town board hereby assumes lead agency and issues a negative declaration pursuant to secret that's it okay thank you

okay resolution number 19 authorizes pursuit of suffolk county downtown revitalization round 23 funding for improvements to third street municipal parking lots that's right here across the street

number 20 ratifies authorization for an application for a new york state consolidated funding application cfa municipal parks and recreation grant we just spoke about that

number 21 authorizes the town clerk to publish and post for request for proposals for the sale of 214 griffin avenue that's the white house that the town owns just beside our building here so she's clear she's clear she's clear she's clear

public hearing to designate a parcel at 48 Willow Street, Suffolk County Tax Map number 600-87-1-14, located in the town of Riverhead as open space. Expand community preservation funds pursuant to Town Law 64E in the amount of $75,000 and approve budget transfer to restore trust and agency funds designated for wetland restoration and remediation in the amount of $75,000. Number 26. Authorizes Town Clerk to publish and post notice for public hearing for the site plan and special permit applications entitled Cavernton Satellite Earth Station 317-319 Berman Boulevard, Suffolk County Tax Map number 600-135- 13520-1-16. Number 27. Authorizes Town Clerk to publish and post notice to publish and post notice for public hearing for the site plan and special permit applications considered a local law to men chapter 301 of the Riverhead Town Code titled Zoning and Land Development Section 3 thereof titled Definitions Word Usage.

Number 28. Awards bid for dry hydrated lime. Not lime. Lime.

Number 29. Approves license agreement between Wadington Realty Corp. and the Town of Riverhead for utilization of Town of Riverhead parking facilities Nunc Pro Tunc. That's for LaPloche. Number 30. Ratifies authorization for the supervisor to sign a consultant professional services agreement with Kathleen Schroer.

What's that for? So Kathy worked for us for many years, 32 years. Oh, right. Never mind. I just got a name confused. Thanks. I know what it is. Number 31. Approves agreement between Town of Riverhead and Windship Media LLC utilizing parking police personnel and police cars 2025 Jazz in the Vines. Number 32. Authorizes the supervisor to execute a license agreement with Stein Seafoods LLC to allow the operation of floating upweller systems Flopsy in East Creek Nunc Pro Tunc.

Number 33. Approves special event chapter 255 application for duck pond. Day. Number 34. Approves special event chapter 255 application for Riverhead Country Fair.

Number 35. Approves special event chapter 255 application for Iglesia Familia de Diaz Riverhead for Christ.

Number 36. Approves special event chapter 255 application for Dreamland Amusement Inc. East End Fair. Number 37. Approves special event chapter 255 application for Long Island Antique Power Association Summer Show, Fall Show and Tractor Pulls. Number 38. Pays the bills. And then we have three additional resolutions that didn't make it into the packet. You guys were emailed about them. You're aware of them. You have copies in front of you. And we'll post copies online. And of course make them available to the public. But first one is appoints an officer. And I'll make sure that you're aware of them. [transcription gap] The second one is an office assistant. The second one is the same thing. Those are positions for the building department. You know we're short staffed there. How come we don't have the names listed of the people we're hiring? They don't have the names in these particular listed in the title. But they're embedded in the body of the resolution. Why that is I'm not exactly sure. Except to just say. Where is that? I'm sorry. They're not in the title. But they're in the body of the resolution. Yeah. There are. There's one. I see Tara here. Dominal. [transcription gap] yeah got it got it got it got it and the last resolution amends resolution 2025-128 east end arts mosaic festival rain date change so it's just a date change in case they need it

and that's it okay well that concludes our open session of today's work session in a moment we're going to close it and go into executive session to discuss matters surrounding acquisition of real property with howard hurley and thomas so if i could have a motion to close work session and go into executive session so all in favor second second all in favor all opposed okay open session is closed we will now go into executive session thank you