May 15, 2025 — Town Board Work Session

Town Board Work Session Meeting

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0:00Thank you.
0:30Thank you.
1:00I pledge of allegiance.
1:02Councilman Kern.
1:04I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
1:08and to the republic for which it stands,
1:11one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
1:16Thank you, Bob.
1:20Okay, we're here for work session today.
1:23The first item on the agenda today is matters surrounding
1:27Riverhead Police Department.
1:29We're going to do a Riverhead in Action video in support of National Police Week,
1:34which happens to be this week.
1:36It ends on Saturday.
1:38So if we can prep that and run it.
1:45Councilman Rothwell and myself went down to the police department.
1:48We're the liaisons to the police department.
1:50And we got a little tour of headquarters and spoke to the captain-in-chief.
1:55And this is an abbreviated version of it.
1:59And we're hoping that the longer version will actually eventually be on our YouTube channel
2:03because it was quite a lot to take in.
2:05But we have to cut it down a little bit for our work session.
2:10Hi, this is Tim Hubbard, supervisor of the great town of Riverhead.
2:15And you're watching Riverhead in Action,
2:17a media campaign designed to highlight the incredible work of the 350-plus employees
2:23that comprise Riverhead's 26 departments and sub-departments.
2:28Thank you.
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2:29Thank you.
2:30job openings, local businesses, and other town happenings.
2:34I hope you find this informative and enjoyable,
2:36and thank you for watching Riverhead in Action.
2:40I have with me today Councilman Ken Rothwell.
2:42He and I are the liaisons to the Riverhead Police Department.
2:46And with us from the Police Department,
2:48we have our new Police Chief, Ed Frost,
2:50and we have our new Captain, Captain Danielle Wilsey.
2:54We're up to 100 sworn officers in the department.
2:56I'm gonna let you two bring up the award
2:58that town just recently got.
2:59The two awards from the state.
3:01Yes, we were recognized by the Stop Dewey, MAD,
3:04and the Governor's Traffic Safety Committee
3:06for a department of 51 to 100 members
3:09for excellence for the year of 2024,
3:13for DWI enforcement and education as well.
3:16You know, the SROs teaching at the schools,
3:18to the kids in the high school.
3:20We do our pre-prom meeting with the people going to the prom
3:23so they understand the dangers of drinking and driving
3:26or using drugs and driving.
3:28That's what's incredible is that
3:29it involves your community engagement
3:31outside of just law enforcement enforcing rules,
3:33regulations, and town codes and laws,
3:35but your community engagement getting out there
3:36into the high school, into the community
3:38has just been phenomenal work.
3:39We're inside the communications room.
3:41This is where all the phone calls
3:42come into the Police Department.
3:44They're really the heart and soul of the department.
3:46Everything that comes through the department
3:48starts right here.
3:49So it's important that they get the information right
3:51and they dispense that information out
3:54to the officers on the road.
3:56Correct, we have 11 full-time dispatchers,
3:58and they handle the call from call taking until the end.
4:01They'll take all the information in,
4:03they'll dispatch it out to the officers or the ambulance,
4:05and all the communication from the police officer
4:07to headquarters comes through the dispatchers.
4:09They have a lot of responsibilities in here.
4:11They're great at their job.
4:12Appreciate them all being here.
4:13And then as soon as the call is over,
4:15they'll close it out,
4:16and usually there's two or three more calls coming in.
4:18They are busy all day long.
4:20Now, in noticing, it's kind of cramped in here
4:23with the number of dispatchers,
4:24so part of the plan is when we refurbish
4:26the Old Town Hall
4:27and the Justice Court,
4:28you're going to be able to expand
4:30on the other side of the building
4:32into where Justice Court was,
4:33so it will make this a little more pleasant
4:36and workable for all the dispatchers in here.
4:38They have six screens up each.
4:39They're looking at a lot of things at one time.
4:41If they had a little more room, that would be great.
4:43All right, this is our front desk area.
4:45It's where the desk officer sits,
4:47monitors calls coming in,
4:48as well as taking walk-in complainants
4:50that might come to the police department
4:52to report a matter.
4:53Also behind us is the patrol sergeant's desk.
4:57So the patrol sergeant's desk
4:58is in charge of all the officers
4:59that are working in a given tour.
5:01This is also where all our spare radios are stored,
5:05you know, so they can get charged up.
5:07So this is a busy hub of the police department.
5:11What was the driving force
5:12that made you decide to make this your career?
5:14Me, personally, my godfather and my cousin
5:17was in law enforcement.
5:18He was actually in the Treasury Department as an agent.
5:20I kind of always looked up to him.
5:22Captain Wilsey, how about you?
5:24Well, I've had no one in my family at all
5:26ever who was a police officer.
5:28I think I just want to do something different
5:29from everybody else.
5:30I always say, so proud of the blue
5:32in terms of that here in Riverhead
5:34in the small-town politics.
5:36It's community policing leads to community engagement.
5:39I just look around and the chief's pictures
5:41of the kids in lacrosse games and things like that,
5:43that's what's great about Riverhead, our community,
5:45is that, you know, we're seeing you at the family functions,
5:48at the family games.
5:49I'm just so proud, too, of the families that you have
5:52and the engagement which leads to just,
5:55people can approach you on the athletic field,
5:57outside, in restaurants.
5:58Talking around.
5:59So many of our officers are also involved
6:01in volunteer firefighting services as well.
6:04And so that's just, that's what's great about Riverhead
6:06is that wherever you go and you seem to bump
6:08into a police officer and you have kind of that casual chat,
6:11and that also keeps you alert towards what's going on,
6:13all the small things that maybe those 911 calls
6:15that don't come through, you just gain it
6:17from being around town.
6:19We're in our detective squad.
6:20For our police department,
6:21detectives investigate felony-level crimes up.
6:25One thing I want to say about the detective division
6:27is that our close friends,
6:28they have a closure rate, or their closure rate,
6:30I should say.
6:31I used to work here no longer.
6:32Their closure rate is phenomenal on cases.
6:35There's a closure to the case, there's an arrest,
6:38and the case is solved.
6:39Now we're outside with the motorcycle squad
6:42of the Riverhead Police Department.
6:43The bikes that you see in front of you were donated to us
6:47through Suffolk County PD,
6:48through County Executive Ed Romaine,
6:51and this was solely set up by Councilman Rothwell,
6:53so I'll let Councilman Rothwell take the lead here.
6:56So absolutely, thank you very much,
6:57County Executive Ed Romaine.
6:58We have a full head full head full head
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7:14I had an eight-week course with the Nassau County Police Department going over everything
7:23from the nomenclature of the motorcycles, everything to out riding with normal traffic
7:28and everything of such.
7:30Escorts, funerals, everything in between.
7:38It was an eight-week course.
7:40It was very vigorous.
7:41A lot of maneuvers, getting to know the bike, like Officer Sashkevich said, a lot of traffic
7:45safety with the bike, traffic, parades, line of duty, funerals, regular funerals, any kind
7:51of police escorts.
7:52These bikes could actually do a lot more than what a lot of people think they can, and they're
7:56a very great, excellent tool to have with the police department.
7:59In closing, we had a wonderful day here today with the Riverhead Police Department with
8:04Chief Frost and Captain Wilsey, and we got a tour of the building, the inside parts from
8:10communication center.
8:11We got to the detective division and how things are handled and how the operations
8:15work daily here.
8:16Our motorcycle unit is awesome.
8:18We're so proud of that.
8:20But we couldn't be more proud of the men and women of the Riverhead Town Police Department.
8:24They do a fantastic job.
8:25It's a busy department.
8:27Each officer is trained in so many different aspects of law enforcement.
8:31It makes a better, well-rounded police department.
8:34And Ken, I don't know about you, but I can't say enough good about these guys, the men
8:37and women.
8:38They're incredible in the work they do.
8:39And so are many of the things that we haven't talked about.
8:41We haven't touched upon today, our K-9 unit and other things in our CROP units that are
8:44out there.
8:45Just phenomenal.
8:46So proud of our men and women in blue.
8:47Absolutely.
8:48Scuba team.
8:49Yes.
8:50Marine Bureau.
8:51Absolutely.
8:52There's so much included that we didn't get to, but this will just give the people
8:55some idea of what our police department does and what they're about.
8:58So this has been an episode of Behind the Badge of Riverhead in Action, and we thank
9:02you for tuning in.
9:03As I said, this is an abbreviated version.
9:10Very shortly we'll have up on our YouTube channel the full interview and the full tour,
9:15so you can tune in and get much more information than this.
9:19Thank you, Justin, for coming down and doing this.
9:22Great job.
9:23We appreciate it, as always.
9:25And we will move on now to the second matter on the list today, as matters surrounding
9:29the monthly police report with Chief Frost.
9:32That was a good segue, coming right into your monthly report.
9:36Thank you for coming down and filming us.
9:39The men and women of the police department are very proud, and they do an excellent
9:45job for the community overall.
9:47I wouldn't be able to have such a good department without them.
9:52Okay.
9:53You guys have it all?
9:57Yes.
9:58Okay.
9:59So, you know, the criminal incidents is what I kind of look at as well.
10:08It's 132.
10:09Let's see what.
10:13So, we went down from last month.
10:19March was 150.
10:20So, you know, that's a good trend going down, obviously.
10:25We had a total of 2,838 calls for the month.
10:33A little higher than last year.
10:36Pretty much.
10:38Okay.
10:39So, I'm going to go back to what I have for you guys.
10:42Unless you guys have.
10:43It was two non-fatal overdoses.
10:44One out in Wayne River.
10:45One out in 58.
10:46Both Narcan?
10:47Yes, by EMS.
10:48One required two doses and the other required one.
10:53I attended the Heart of Riverhead Civic Association and Claudette actually asked me a good question.
11:02So, I would like to get her answer out.
11:06So, she asked, what is the best way to get a good result?
11:07She asked, what is the number of, what is the percentage of criminal incidents compared
11:12to non-criminal?
11:13So, our criminal incidents are only 4% of our total call volume for the whole month.
11:21So, I just figured I'd give you that information.
11:24But it's 100% of the negative headlines that appear.
11:28Yeah.
11:29You know, unfortunately, you know, there are some serious incidents that do occur.
11:32But like in the video, we do, you know, most of the time make arrests.
11:37And, you know, on those serious incidents.
11:39So, you know, detectives do an excellent job on that.
11:41Oh, the closure rate.
11:42I can't speak enough about that.
11:44Yeah.
11:45So, I mean, and again, all the other technology-based stuff that's out there is greatly helping
11:53Cameras are all up around town.
11:54We've all set up with those now.
11:55Yeah.
11:56The last section has been installed.
11:57They actually look good.
11:58And pretty much what I got, unless you guys have anything to say.
11:59I just want to give you a compliment that I was speaking with a friend of mine who was
12:00a police officer.
12:01And he was a police officer.
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12:07And she's a police officer.
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12:31the different smoke shops and see who's selling illegally you also do the huddle for hunger the
12:37football the police department goes and has football games with the community you do the
12:41bike rodeo with the community giving bikes right and you do the toys at christmas so much outreach
12:47that you do that can't even be covered in the video i just you know can't say enough i'm trying
12:52to get the department more out to the public and doing more public events you know i think in the
12:56past that's kind of where we lacked a little bit so that's a big push for me as well yeah
13:02chief i had a meeting last week with uh school superintendent pellish she was ecstatic about
13:10the sro officers in the school she said the the relationship the bonds that have been formed
13:16between the students and the officers are incredible she said there was a little concern
13:21when they first came in some groups came in and met with her they were afraid of what this was
13:26going to look like and they were afraid of what the school would do and they were afraid of what
13:26it was going to be and how it was going to work those same groups are now openly communicating
13:31with the officers extremely happy that they're there and uh you know like i said eventually
13:37someday maybe we can get one in every school but uh extremely happy and the two officers are doing
13:42they're doing a fantastic job it's good to hear yeah i had meetings with those those groups as
13:47well i know with and it's that that's not the purpose of an sro it's to actually show the police
13:53as like a person and reach out on a you know
13:56you know an individual basis to show you know where people as well were just not you know you
14:01know and i think eric and kaylee were a good choices to be to fill those spots agreed they're
14:07definitely good officers so good i would like you to know that i attended the bike rodeo the other
14:12day and it was wonderful to see the way that your officers interacted with the families and
14:17especially the children high-fiving them encouraging them and structuring a relationship
14:23and and you could see the trust that was kind of
14:26being being formed and that's important they really did a great job yeah that's it that's been
14:31going on for at least 30 years oh yeah absolutely absolutely it's a long-running event but again
14:36it's big out you know outreach to the public at all ages is important for me so that's how i you
14:42know put it through my department so they know i'm that's what i'm looking for so it was just
14:47so nice to see so many kids on bicycles yeah you know not not doing this yes right yeah absolutely
14:56sure on the revenues collected is that correct is 736 it is correct we're we with our rms changeover
15:04we lost our alarm billing module so we're working on we actually have to hand right now get those
15:10bills out so that's pretty pretty much our biggest drop is that i'm working we've been working on
15:16developing the program to do it electronically but when we went over
15:19it knocked out our module where our old system had an automatic one so i'm working with it and
15:26we're and we have an intern starting uh next week so we're going to use uh that individual to
15:33hope you know speed that process up at least getting the bills out and there are there are
15:37some bills that are outstanding that you know i have to work with the town attorney's office for
15:41uh you know collecting the information the revenue i paid my alarm bill good yeah changing over the
15:50new system had you know a lot of advantages but we did lose some other stuff that you know it's
15:56so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so
16:26any major aided cases and how your officers have responded in CPR saves is
16:31just phenomenal and so that they're so actively engaged talented and they they
16:35know how to properly perform and they are truly saving lives so thank you for
16:39everything that they do no problem excellent job all right thank you thank
16:44you very much okay next up we have matters surrounding presentation by open
16:52space committee with Bob Kermann and open space committee come on up thank
16:58you guys for coming in appreciate it this is not the whole committee this is
17:03three of us Justin asked if we had this on the laptop we do not but he has it so
17:16we're going to have to communicate with him yeah okay Justin I guess there's
17:20something you can put up okay
17:22great so you know what to do just say next okay on this slide hit it hit it hit it
17:31there it is right so we put together a number of slides showing our
17:36accomplishments things we'd like to do goals that we have our opening slide
17:41shows you the Sound Avenue Preserve before we touched it this is looking
17:48from private road Terry Road down towards Sound Avenue
17:52so to the left is what became the Sound Avenue Preserve so in the next slide
17:58please this is the committee members some you know some you don't but we also
18:04have Julie was not ski attends our meetings as a liaison from the iconic
18:10land dress so we're fortunate to have her input you know as well you know as
18:17as everyone else so it's a good committee you know we all have a
18:22lot of experience but different properties and also could you just
18:26identify yourselves sure I'm janice Leonti I'm the chairperson of the
18:30committee George and George Bartlett and Nancy Gilbert and then go but very good
18:37let's go to get a memory point at that Ann Marie is not listed on there she is
18:41our counsel and we love her next slide Justin and we have a mission to identify
18:50review and recommend
18:52lands to be purchased as open space. At this point right now as you know we
18:59don't have funds to spend. In the past a lot of money from the CPF has been spent
19:07on purchasing property so now we're paying down debt in the town. So that seems to
19:13be working nicely but we want to do more stewardship of existing open space sites
19:20and they need it. There are things that we've done and you'll see that later on
19:24in the slides. So the next slide shows the purchases since the inception of the
19:31program in 2002 approximately. The last one is Sharpers Hill in Jamesport but
19:39that's highlighted because that was a county purchase. And Janice I would
19:44mention that these names are the owners of the property so they're names you
19:48might not recognize. Right.
19:49Right.
19:49These are the owners of the property.
19:50Right.
19:50These are not what the properties are known by now.
19:52Right. So just for example you know we have renamed different things you know the
19:59Goldman property we're calling the Millpond Preserve because it encompasses Millpond.
20:04So is it official? No but I guess we can get that done. The Sound Avenue Preserve is the
20:11Carter, Larson Carter property and you know we have a big sign out there now. So next
20:20slide you'll see some of the summary of purchases and the money that was spent
20:25from CPF funds and county funding. So also the town has a management agreement
20:34for Sharpers Hill. No go ahead I'm sorry. Oh okay. And also one would be coming for North Fork Preserve and that's not in place yet. So nothing has been done there. Sharpers Hill there has been work done. So that's a good thing.
20:48Okay.
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20:51Okay.
21:07Okay.
21:07So the next slide will show...
21:09That's where I come in.
21:11Right. It will show Weeping Willow,
21:13and George is going to give you a whole background
21:15about Weeping Willow.
21:17Does everybody know where the Weeping Willow Hotel was
21:19on West Main Street?
21:21I mean, it was really a blight.
21:24And I guess it's a classic example.
21:26Excuse me, I have a little bit of a cold.
21:27I'm getting over it.
21:29A classic example of how the town took the property
21:32or bought the property
21:34and improvements on the property
21:37There was a little bit of controversy at the time.
21:39I was on the town board when this was purchased,
21:42and it was expensive,
21:44but given the sewage treatment system that existed there,
21:49maybe we can show the next slide.
21:51Show the next slide.
21:52And on the left, it shows what the hotel looked like
21:54at the time before the demolition.
21:58On the right is what it looked like
22:00after all the buildings were removed and reinforced.
22:03Another reason why it was purchased
22:05is because of the amount of hard soil
22:07and the surface area that existed there
22:08for parking and buildings alone.
22:10You can imagine the stuff that was washed into the river
22:14from that operation, not only by the septic,
22:18but all by the pavement and runoff and everything like that.
22:24Next slide.
22:25I guess we can go on to the next slide.
22:27The improvement that has been made by this committee
22:30fairly recently was the old fencing
22:33that exists along the eastern section of the property.
22:36We can go to the next slide,
22:38showing the new fencing that's been installed there.
22:41And the committee would like to also invest
22:45in some native vegetation to be planted there at a later date.
22:50So that's kind of a typical example of what the committee,
22:53the priorities of the committee is now
22:55to maintain the properties that have been purchased
22:58by the open space.
23:00And as we say that there is rarely a beautiful fence,
23:05but in this case,
23:06it's a beautiful fence.
23:07If you have any questions as we go along,
23:10if we can't answer it,
23:13we can find the answer for you.
23:16Maybe.
23:17Yeah. Okay.
23:18Yes, next slide.
23:20Sound Avenue Preserve, I guess is.
23:25Yes. Sound Avenue Preserve.
23:27Here we're looking at Terry Road is to the left side,
23:31and we're just looking north across the meadows
23:34that meet Sound Avenue.
23:36And north of that, the tree line,
23:39at Sound Avenue Preserve, you walk through the meadow trails,
23:43through the wooded area, and then up to another meadow area
23:47that ascends gently.
23:49It's hikeable and excellent for bird watching
23:53and all sorts of things.
23:54So the next slide will show a bit more.
23:57We had a beautiful sign made up that shows people
24:01on Sound Avenue driving by that this is Town
24:03of Overhead Nature Preserve.
24:05And how the property was purchased and improved.
24:09So the next slide is an aerial shot.
24:12Sound Avenue is at the bottom of the screen,
24:16and it shows the trails that go through the meadow area.
24:20The highway department used their big brush cutter
24:24to cut the trails.
24:26And there's a bisecting road about halfway up the slide.
24:31That goes into the wooded area, and then atop is the next meadow,
24:35the East End.
24:35And then the next slide is the
24:49that you can hike through.
24:50It's a short but nice and easy hike if you want to do that.
25:05And you can see horses in the fields and that kind of thing.
25:08So it is a wonderful spot.
25:11The next slide.
25:13We had a barn which we all thought was very charming
25:17on the Sound Avenue Preserve property.
25:19And we really wanted to use it.
25:23And part of the roof caved in.
25:26And then the engineering department took a look at it
25:29and said it would just can't be fixed.
25:33It would have to be demolished.
25:34They had to rebuild it almost entirely.
25:36So they did demolish the barn.
25:39So that's gone.
25:41And it was a good move because it was becoming dangerous.
25:45You know, people could break into it or jump in from the collapsed part
25:49and that kind of thing.
25:50So the next slide shows just a couple of improvements
25:54at the Sound Avenue Preserve.
25:56You know, we've got birds going in and out of those bird houses.
25:59There are benches to rest.
26:02And then the trails go.
26:04And then the trees are pretty much in each direction up through the meadow.
26:09So it's lovely now.
26:11And we'd like to do some more planting there.
26:14Particularly in the lower part around the parking area.
26:16Soften things up.
26:18We did planting when, I guess about 2012.
26:21And I'd say most of it survived.
26:24But some did not.
26:26So that's.
26:27Ron Charles, You know what?
26:29We would like to maybe bring our Riverhead in Action video out and maybe go with you guys
26:34on a walking tour of a couple of these places.
26:37Because they really are beautiful, pristine pieces of property.
26:41And I think we should be proud of it and let the general public know about these properties
26:46that may not have been up there.
26:47We've talked about that a lot.
26:48Yeah.
26:49One of the things we'd like to do is we would like to have this possibility of a kiosk being
26:54constructed on this property.
26:56And it would be dedicated to the display of the history heritage of Sound Avenue.
27:00And Sound Avenue Preserve.
27:02Let's tell the people who drive down Sound Avenue.
27:04From Queens.
27:05Terry's are probably, if not the, they're definitely one of the oldest generational families.
27:11Yeah.
27:12In the founding fathers of the town of Riverhead.
27:14That would be an idea maybe for the back of the kiosk is the history of the family.
27:18The charity family.
27:19Yes.
27:20So we're thinking about the kiosk being placed right off the parking area.
27:25So people coming in could see that, get some information about it, and then take their
27:30hike or vice versa.
27:31I thought that you had somebody that was going to build a kiosk.
27:33I was going to build that.
27:34We have an Eagle Scout candidate.
27:35I was just going to suggest that would be a perfect project.
27:40Yeah.
27:41And he met with us.
27:42He came to the meeting.
27:43And he was wonderful.
27:44He came with his dad.
27:45Yeah.
27:46And he said he would oversee this building of the kiosk.
27:47So that was just a couple of months ago.
27:48He's in school.
27:49He's in scouts.
27:50So whenever he's ready, we're ready.
27:51Right.
27:52Right.
27:53It'll be done before he's 18.
27:54If he wants to be an Eagle Scout, he's going to do the project.
27:55That's right.
27:56That's right.
27:57So we're going to build that.
27:58And we're going to build that.
27:59We're going to build that.
28:00We're going to build that.
28:01So he's going to be an Eagle Scout.
28:02He's going to do the project.
28:03That's right.
28:04So the next slide.
28:05Nancy or George.
28:06Yes, it's mine.
28:07Okay.
28:08Oh, George will take this.
28:09You know, I was looking for the interpretation of what Meermog meant.
28:14And it's a gathering plate by the Native Americans, a gathering place of fishermen.
28:20It's interesting.
28:21It was probably a great place for the Indians and Native Americans to gather for the fishing
28:28expeditions.
28:29This was purchased in 1936.
28:30It's a very old place.
28:31It was done in 2008.
28:32About 2.3 acres of property.
28:33This was purchased because the residents down there who owned the property, I think primarily
28:46to the west of this, were complaining about people driving down to the end of the point,
28:51the road there.
28:52And they were complaining about people going onto their property.
28:56So that was one of the reactions of the town of why they bought this property.
29:00At the time, it seemed like a very expensive piece of property.
29:04But now, I think it was a very, very good investment.
29:07The park was built with a grant from the Office of Parks, Recreation, Historic Preservation
29:18for $350,000.
29:19And the town kicked in about $20,000 for the park area.
29:23There's a beautiful wooden walk right through there that takes you down through the woods
29:28into the beach.
29:29It's part of the building of the project of the construction.
29:33It's too bad we couldn't save the other side of South Jamesport Island.
29:39Yeah.
29:40But this, the next slide will show you what the possibility of this place was.
29:47If you can imagine, this was a hotel that was built on that site.
29:52Nancy said this is a 1910 photograph of the hotel.
29:57If you can imagine what was built.
29:58I can imagine what was built there at one time.
30:01This was actually dismantled in 1952.
30:05That's when it was .
30:07I thought that it burned down.
30:08Nope.
30:09There were two other hotels that burned down.
30:11But this one was dismantled.
30:12But this one was dismantled.
30:13Yeah.
30:14Amazing.
30:15No one knows that it was over there.
30:16Next slide.
30:17Yeah.
30:18Yeah.
30:19Right.
30:20Yeah.
30:21It's just . . .
30:22It's also amazing that way back then, Riverhead, you know, Jamesport is in Riverhead.
30:23Yeah.
30:24[transcription gap]
30:27It was all about hotels.
30:28There was hotels put up.
30:29Right.
30:30Way back.
30:31Way back then.
30:32Resorts.
30:33Yeah.
30:34Yeah.
30:35It was a heyday resort area.
30:36And it's heyday.
30:37It was amazing.
30:38People . . .
30:39Well, we know the history.
30:40Let's go on to the open space.
30:41All right.
30:42I get Sharper's Hill.
30:43And sorry we don't have a lot of beautiful pictures to show you.
30:44The reason this is so critically important is that 3,000 years ago, there was a very
30:49large, very large, very large, very large, very large, very large, very large, very large,
30:55very large.
30:56And 3,000 years ago, the Native Americans started using this as a burial site.
31:01So it's critically important, archaeologically and historically.
31:05The preservation story is, as you all know, very long and complicated.
31:11The site plan proposal was made in 2004 to put in a commercial development that included
31:20145,000 feet of commercial development.
31:25And was intending to . . .
31:26To remove 88,000 cubic yards of sand.
31:31Now, how much is 88,000 cubic yards of sand?
31:35Want me to show the next?
31:37Well, no.
31:38Okay.
31:39But, it's fine.
31:40This is the site plan.
31:41We'll go.
31:42It doesn't matter.
31:43I only have the two slides.
31:44The important part of this is the history, unfortunately.
31:45And we don't have a lot of slides of that.
31:47But, 88,000 cubic yards of sand is 6,000 dump truck loads.
31:52Okay.
31:53So, that's what was intended.
31:55intended they were intending to move out this this was purchased finally by the
32:01county in 2017 so it took 13 years for the community to save this it caused an
32:10a lot of opposition there were town board meetings where over a hundred
32:15people came and spoke there were lots of articles written it was exceedingly
32:22sensitive to the community so it was a great a great save eventually so the
32:28land trust Peconic Land Trust was very much involved and what happened was as
32:34you all know Jules Spett went bankrupt and the next owner was willing to talk
32:40about preservation possibilities the land trust approached him they convinced
32:46him to put a cover crop on the farmland there's 30 acres of farmland north of
32:50this and he agreed to move out and they were very happy about it and they were
32:52so brave so brave so brave so brave so brave so brave so brave so brave so brave
33:00brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave
33:06brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave
33:15brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave
33:22Now, it's simply a trail that leads up the hill and then loops around and comes back down.
33:30We are waiting for the county to approve the sign.
33:33We haven't got heard back from them yet.
33:36And this is an interesting project because it is county money, but the town has the management contract for it.
33:43So the Jamesport Civic Association is heavily invested in this project.
33:49We hear from them frequently, and we do want to work with them to make this accessible to people
33:56and so people understand the sensitivity around the sign is, of course,
34:00how much do you acknowledge the archaeological findings that are there.
34:05And the Native American community really needs to approve the wording that is on the sign.
34:13So we're very lucky to have it.
34:15The name Sharper's Hill, by the way, if you don't know, it's an interesting story.
34:19There was a schoolhouse at the bottom of Sharper's Hill, and the schoolmaster there, by the name of Ezekiel Aldrich,
34:28wrote a poem calling Sharper's Hill a noble place of ancient form, and he named it Sharper's Hill.
34:35We don't know where the name came from, but that's the earliest reference in print.
34:40So we're going with it.
34:41Sharper's Hill ever since.
34:43But the town has gone in, and we have trails.
34:49We have been developed there.
34:51They're not extensive because we wanted to be sensitive to potential burying grounds for Native Americans.
34:57So there are trails, but the county proposed parking be cut into the area,
35:05and our committee was not happy with that.
35:07So there will not be a parking area there, but there is a sidewalk along the front there,
35:14and, you know, be able to walk into there.
35:16But we just didn't want the trails to be extensive.
35:19And go up into what is potentially that burying ground.
35:23Yeah, the indigenous people are very concerned about that.
35:26I met with them recently.
35:28And they are very concerned, and they're very thankful that it was preserved,
35:33because certainly this would have disrupted a burial ground by all means.
35:38And I'm not sure it ever would have happened anyway, because once they started unearthing artifacts,
35:42I think that would have been the stop to it altogether.
35:46But this was the best thing that could have been done.
35:48And the way that...
35:45I think that would have been the best thing that could have been done.
35:48And the way that...
35:49The way that the trails are set up, they don't actually go right to the burial grounds,
35:53which they're very comfortable about.
35:55Yeah, that's right.
35:56Because they don't want people going in.
35:57It's illegal, people should know, to remove artifacts.
36:01But this way it keeps it...
36:03You can get an idea of what it was like, but you're not actually right in the middle of what is most sacred.
36:09And I should mention, it was really...
36:11The town board voted finally for a full environmental impact statement.
36:15And this preservation never would have happened if that step had not taken place.
36:19So that was an important piece of the story.
36:23Yeah, it's a great story.
36:25Next slide.
36:27So we just wanted to show you, we have the highway department created, made these signs for us.
36:33And we have an open space sign marking every one of our properties.
36:38One has been removed.
36:39We don't know by whom.
36:41But Bob is going to secure some extras for us so that we can replace signs that people simply have to have.
36:48I don't know why.
36:49But we wanted the community at large, and people visiting our community, to see open space and where these existing sites are.
37:01And this is what, when you've paid into this fund at your real estate closing, that this is where the money is going.
37:10This is what we're doing.
37:11People aren't aware of this at all.
37:13But now I hope these signs help.
37:15We didn't want anything too big or crazy.
37:18We just wanted...
37:19We wanted to know the signs.
37:21As other townships do, the county does.
37:26You know, I know on Edwards Avenue, the old Beagle Club.
37:30Yes.
37:30That has a sign, Suffolk County Park.
37:33So, you know, we wanted to join in that, just so people could know.
37:38Next slide, please.
37:40Pawlonski.
37:41That's an interesting purchase.
37:44And I think, if you look at this picture, it kind of really illustrates a...
37:49Why a piece of property was so important to purchase.
37:53You can see the development on the right, which was, you know, encroaching on the kind of open space.
37:59Do you know where this is?
38:00That's Northwoods on the right.
38:02This is the...
38:03Off of Depot Middle Road.
38:05The old...
38:06Just to give you an orientation here, the old landfill is due north of this.
38:10Yes.
38:10Okay?
38:12And on the left, also, you have more residential development, which is encroaching from the west.
38:18So...
38:18Yeah.
38:19This...
38:19[transcription gap]
38:19This was a beautiful piece of property to protect the relatively rural road that goes through there.
38:26Depot Road was actually named after the kettle holes that are all along there.
38:32And you got two of them right there.
38:34If you can imagine the receding glacier from this area, dumping off blocks of ice that would be buried and form these kettle holes.
38:42But this is 41 acres.
38:44It was purchased for a price of 3.8 million, which now, looking back, is about $3.8 million.
38:48So...
38:49So...
38:49I...
38:50I...
38:50I...
39:06I...
39:07development and that is open meadow and then it wraps around the Kobolinski
39:14homestead into the wooded area where you can see the kettle halls I believe there
39:18are three or four kettle hall there. Oh there's a magnificent picture coming up with a beautiful kettle hall.
39:23Yeah but the idea too is that you know that that was all the Kobolinski
39:29property that was sold you know so you did preserve some of it I see that the
39:35Kobolinski homestead area there is has been for sale and and it says it's in
39:40contract now I don't know but we at least have this portion of meadow and
39:45wooded area and the kettle halls. I think the property on the south side of the
39:50world is now for sale too. Yes it is it's about 13 acres of it looks like half
39:54wooded and half meadow. Okay next slide this is one of the kettle holes on the
40:02kettle hole ponds.
40:05The kettle hole ponds are the only one that is on the property.
40:07Not that scenic but anyway.
40:11We talk about this property a lot because there's no public access to it and we do
40:17think we do want to spend some time really exploring the property and
40:22determining whether it's appropriate to think about investing some funds to make
40:26this accessible to put a trail in. Before we go to the next slide I mean this also
40:30illustrates the importance of this particular piece of property for
40:34groundwater reachable.
40:35Which is what provided by the kettle holes which are pretty natural
40:40condition actually given the history of how they were formed around. Okay next
40:45slide. Okay Mill Pond Preserve which is the Goldman property and what you're
40:51looking at is the car repair garage on East Main Street and our access to the
40:59property is that driveway. This is a very interesting
41:04example because this is a full head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head
41:34and will continue to be but it's very important because it's part of the
41:39sawmill River watershed the town and county have preserved 60 acres of land
41:46on either side of the sawmill River Creek north of this piece of property so
41:51it's there is access to this property but we need to work with the owner and
41:58figure out how they actually get people in there I think I've read Nancy that
42:05this might have been the first sawmill in New York it was the first well I
42:09don't know about New York State first in Riverhead yeah 1659 yeah next slide is
42:21the North Fork Preserve this is another interesting project the county actually
42:25acquired
42:28we worked with them to acquire 173 acres and we have a relationship
42:34connection to this land 173 acres that border sound Avenue this was originally
42:40all farmland from the Tuttle family and then it was the farm that they got out
42:48of farming and press wireless do any of you remember press wireless so they put
42:55together a consortium of newspapers really led by
42:58the county and they put together a consortium of newspapers really led by
42:58the New York Times and that building up on North Fork Preserve if you've been up
43:02there that's the press wireless building which the hunting club that bought it
43:08from press wire house used as a recreation room if the technology of the
43:14radio technology about getting the news that overseas went out of out of
43:19business when satellites came into use so press wireless got out of the
43:24business so that's when it was bought privately to become managed as a
43:28hunting club oh they did it tennis courts and used that building as a
43:34recreation center then the club that experienced some hard times and they
43:41offered it for sale so the county of the town partnered on it we're waiting for a
43:46management agreement on the hundred seventy-three acres I was part of Al
43:50Krupsky committee to work with people to figure out what they wanted the county
43:56presented at that point a plan to build a space for the
43:52area to be used to provide space to the area to be used to provide space to the
43:58That included a splash pond, a little general store, room for caravans.
44:07Everything under the sun was included in that plan.
44:11And I think it's very good news that nothing has happened because it is a beautiful piece of property.
44:18It's a wonderful place to go cross-country skiing.
44:22Bird watching is fantastic.
44:24The trails, they've kept the trails minimally mowed.
44:29But there are a lot of vernal ponds in there as well.
44:34So salamanders and frogs and all kinds of things.
44:37But it's an incredibly wonderful piece of property.
44:42I'm willing to bet there's one or two pheasants running around up there that made it through the hunt successfully.
44:48Because I know they used to release crates of them during hunting season and have hunts up there.
44:54But not all of them were always taken.
44:57So I'm sure there's quite a few.
44:58There's quite a few still running around up there.
45:00It is a very beautiful property.
45:02George, are those more of those kettle holes?
45:04You know, it's kind of interesting.
45:06When the wetland inventory was done in 1979, for whatever reason, they missed those wetlands.
45:16And they were actually put on the state, the town's map when the subdivision plan was actually being discussed.
45:24When it was farmed by the Tuttle's way back when, it was full of it.
45:28And it was actually the wetlands that were very important because they were a source of irrigation for the farm crops and also water for the animals.
45:35So it became more of a challenge as farming.
45:40You farm bigger and bigger pieces and use bigger equipment.
45:43So it became untenable.
45:45But they're not kettle holes.
45:47No, to your question, they're not.
45:49But they are wetlands.
45:50Yeah, they are.
45:50It's really wetlands.
45:51Wetlands and ponds.
45:54Next slide, please.
45:57Okay.
45:58Okay.
45:58So ADJN is a realty company.
46:01This is the name of the company we bought the property from.
46:05And this also is on the Sawmill Creek watershed.
46:09It's across from BJ's.
46:12Across the street from BJ's.
46:13If you can kind of imagine what that is.
46:16We purchased this in 2004, 30 acres for $300,000.
46:21So not a lot of money.
46:23Very important to protect the watershed.
46:27Now, there's a new project.
46:28Another piece of property, 37 acres north of this piece of town property that's zoned
46:36commercial is wooded in wetlands.
46:38And it is for sale.
46:39I think it's where there are a lot of homeless in campus.
46:42Yes.
46:43But it is certainly a piece of this watershed that we should consider trying to preserve.
46:49It is for sale.
46:51And this is next to 13 acres of county-owned land.
46:57So again, the...
46:57If you look at the GIS map, the town and the county have done an incredible job of preserving
47:03the land along Sawmill River Creek.
47:08Next slide, please.
47:10Hubbard Duck Farm.
47:12And you probably know more about this than I do.
47:14Spent many years playing there as a kid.
47:18So this was purchased in 2010.
47:20It's 78 acres.
47:22The town put in 2.7 million and the county put in 2.7 million.
47:27It goes...
47:27It goes from south of the railroad tracks and is immediately adjacent on the west side
47:32to Indian Island Park.
47:34Now I think one of the incredible resources of Riverhead Town is we have the Hubbard Duck
47:41Farm.
47:42You then have Indian Island Park.
47:44And you now have Broad Cove Preserve.
47:47That is an unbelievable stretch of preserved land in a very beautiful part of town.
47:54And I really think we need to collaborate and get it somehow...
47:56Spent a lot of money.
47:57Spent a lot of money.
47:57Yeah.
47:57Spent a lot of money.
47:57Yeah.
47:57Spent a lot of money.
47:57Yeah.
47:57[transcription gap]
47:57Yeah.
47:57[transcription gap]
47:58Yeah.
47:59[transcription gap]
47:59Yeah.
48:00[transcription gap]
48:01Yeah.
48:01Yeah.
48:01Yeah.
48:01[transcription gap]
48:01Yeah.
48:01[transcription gap]
48:02Yeah.
48:02[transcription gap]
48:06Yeah.
48:06[transcription gap]
48:06Yeah.
48:06what's the road that goes i can't even think of it from the delhi from the delhi up um overlook
48:13overlook no yeah yeah the dirt road oh no no not the dirt oh past broad cove at the end at the
48:20corner of broad abroad cove something it goes yeah edgar thank you just slipped out of my mind so
48:29there's an opportunity there and an incredibly beautiful stretch of preserved property that
48:35we've never thought about in terms of its contiguousness and what what what the
48:41possibilities are so i think that's a a great a great a great challenge for us next slide please
48:50um and this is a another view of sawmill creek it's beautifully you know there's a lot of
48:56fragmanis that's come in yes but it's an incredibly beautiful um part of of where we live
49:05um next slide please
49:11well the committee process it's something that you know people would should understand that when we
49:19are looking at a property there are a lot of things that we look at in terms of the potential
49:24either for purchase of town to encourage the county to purchase it which we do you know actively
49:32so the next slide please justin
49:35we visit the sites we have a parcel rating form where we rate each parcel
49:43based on is it contiguous with other preserved areas what the environmental
49:50impact is of preserving this all these different things we also have a
49:56stewardship form that we fill out so we're not just going to the property and
50:00kind of just making rash decisions or anything like that we we have a very
50:06distinct process stewardship we've rated on needs and wants you know for each
50:12existing open space site so that's how we do that we make our recommendations
50:17in this case now to councilman Kern to go to the town board and present what
50:24we're thinking we also work with the county Peconic Land Trust
50:30and the city of
50:30We feel that now that our funding is low for making purchases that we need to actively
50:39work together on that.
50:40So that's our process.
50:42I keep asking Southampton and Eastampton to, you know, spend some of theirs over here
50:49or spread it over here for us to use.
50:51Wouldn't it be nice?
50:52They laugh at me every time I do that because they have unlimited funds.
50:56I'll plug in the possible purchase of the former Peconic Paddler site.
51:02We have reached out as a committee, you know, to Southampton.
51:05That would be at least some kind of an agreement between the two towns.
51:10But yeah, get some of that CPF money.
51:14If the town of Southampton purchased the property of Peconic Paddler, maybe the town of Riverhead
51:19would have a management agreement there.
51:22So that's kind of, you know, what we're trying to encourage with that.
51:25And we all know where that is.
51:28It's contiguous to another parkland and right on the water.
51:31Yeah, it would be.
51:32I think it's kind of like a life support.
51:35So maybe...
51:36We'll see what happens.
51:37It's good for us that that's a possibility.
51:41Next slide, please.
51:44So our challenges.
51:45As this slide shows, which is kind of simple, Peconic Bay Boulevard at the bottom, there's
51:52development and there's open space.
51:54And let's see.
51:55Let's face it.
51:56Right now, people are, you know, developing at quite a rate.
52:01And that's our biggest challenge is to get these properties before they are developed.
52:07So the next slide.
52:08Especially the ones that are environmentally sensitive.
52:13Sure.
52:15Our biggest challenge is lack of CPF funding for new purchases that, you know, we have
52:24looked and prioritized.
52:25We have prioritized parcels for purchase.
52:26And we're ready to go if there's funding on them.
52:27So that's the problem.
52:28Cost of ongoing stewardship also.
52:29You know, we have planting.
52:30The example was putting the fence at Weeping Willow.
52:31Things like that.
52:32You know, we just need to be able to implement them.
52:33And it's probably that putting the fence at Weeping Willow was maybe about a two or three
52:52year...
52:53Oh, my gosh.
52:54Yeah.
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53:25as Nancy mentioned with the Mill Pond Preserve on East Main Street. Our access
53:33way is blocked often by the commercial entity that's adjacent to it. So those
53:40are the types of encroachments we're talking about and so that's a challenge
53:44for us you know to get that taken care of so the community can use these
53:48properties. So the next slide please.
53:55And this just is a lovely open space site that we're you know we can show you
54:00and our next slide will show our goals. We need to keep going to the existing
54:08open space sites for stewardship and maintenance. In other words checking if
54:13there's dumping encroachment, what needs to be done, do we need to put benches in
54:19or kiosk at the Sound Avenue Preserve that kind of thing. We need
54:25more accessibility. Nancy mentioned trails you know that would be nice for
54:29people to be able to walk through these areas. Keeping up with our being involved
54:38with the county. We need to make more of a connection there so we can contact
54:45them easily and maybe propose these places to be purchased. We also need to
54:53work with other partners.
54:55So we're working with the county and the county land trust. The state would like to step in in certain areas you know and purchase so that's all open. So the next slide. This is our biggest goal. We need to preserve as much open space as possible. You know we're in that position now where we've got some beautiful vistas and beautiful areas that have been preserved but there's more that we can do and you know we're always open to suggestions.
55:19That's Indian Island right?
55:21And I think that's a great point.
55:22I think that's a great point.
55:23I think that's a great point.
55:24[transcription gap]
55:25That's Indian Island.
55:26This is, no I believe, I think it's Cases Creek.
55:31Cases Creek?
55:32Maybe it is.
55:33Yeah.
55:34Yeah.
55:35Our other committee members, Charles Cetus and Marge Acevedo are not here today. Charles has an encyclopedic knowledge of every property in the town of Riverhead.
55:48So he's usually the one that's going to be the one to talk to.
55:53So he's usually the one we lean on.
55:54What is this?
55:55And he said that's what, by of course that's what it is.
55:59But this is our biggest goal and how we accomplish this, you know, without the funding is a big question.
56:07So we thank you for your time today.
56:09That's our last slide showing you our biggest goal.
56:12We thank you for all the work that you've done over the years.
56:15This is, I know it's an uphill battle every time you find a piece and it's like let's get some money.
56:20Can we get some money?
56:21Can we, you know, develop it?
56:22You know, develop it a little bit with some trails and put some gravel down.
56:27I know it's hard all the time and with the economy and the building boom back in the 80s was great.
56:34There was money coming in all the time, you know, and that's why we preserve so much land.
56:39But it's a struggle but we appreciate you hanging in there and the work that you do is phenomenal.
56:45Those pieces of property that you preserved are some of the most beautiful parts.
56:49Broad Cove Duck Farm is my favorite.
56:51Yeah.
56:52It's the best desert of all.
56:53You can imagine condominiums built there.
56:55Oh yeah.
56:56Yeah, there were all kinds of plans for stuff to go in there and that's an absolutely gorgeous piece of property.
57:01A lot of ticks on it but it's a gorgeous piece of property.
57:04Ticks are a specialty.
57:05They can't care less.
57:06That's why we need the trails.
57:07Right, exactly, exactly.
57:09But yeah, we, you know, we have, you know, stewardship plans going forward so that's our main thing right now.
57:18Well, we appreciate your desire to do this.
57:21This is a volunteer committee.
57:22This isn't, you know, you don't get paid the big bucks to sit and do this but we certainly appreciate your time.
57:28Thank you.
57:29And everything that you do.
57:30Thanks.
57:31Kudos to Nancy for putting this all together, this presentation.
57:34Nancy's our PowerPoint genius.
57:36Excellent.
57:38Well, very nice job.
57:39Thank you very much.
57:40Thank you.
57:41Okay, we're going to go a little bit out of order right now.
57:48Yeah.
57:49We're going to take matters surrounding the site plan approval for Island Water Park with Greg Bergman.
57:57Good morning, sir.
58:02Good morning, everybody.
58:03Good morning.
58:04Good morning.
58:05All right.
58:06So there's two resolutions in the packet for the town board meeting next week.
58:10One of them is the responses to the condition negative declaration which we went over at work session last week.
58:16That was pretty straightforward.
58:17And there is a resolution to that.
58:18And there is a resolution for preliminary approval of the Island Water Park site plan.
58:23I just want to go through, you know, there's a recitation of the project history, comments received from all departments and town agencies.
58:31So getting to the conditions of the preliminary approval.
58:39The applicant now, so the applicant did get, they have an approved health department approval that has an approval for I believe it's 10,615 gallons per day of sanitation.
58:48Density flow.
58:49[transcription gap]
59:18So there are conditions in there.
59:20The applicant must obtain a freshwater wetlands jurisdictional determination from the New York State DEC.
59:24They did make that application to the DEC, I believe it was submitted on April 3rd.
59:29The applicant must fully reclaim the mine under the DEC permit and provide certification to the town that the mine has been closed out.
59:36The applicant will satisfy the Chief Fire Marshal's comments.
59:40The site plan shall be amended to include a barrier around the outside of the track to control stormwater management and erosion into the lake.
59:45That was a requirement from the town engineer's memo.
59:49The applicant must resolve any outstanding violations with the DEC relative to site improvements which were made without benefit of the permit.
59:56And then the applicant needs to file a covenant on the property in a form approved by the town attorney's office restricting the use of the track to go-carts and that the use of the track for any other type of vehicle shall be prohibited.
1:00:06That was one of the conditions in the condition and the declaration that we adopted.
1:00:11Pretty straightforward conditions.
1:00:12I think they're reasonable.
1:00:13It gets the applicant to use the interior space pending all those inspections.
1:00:18And we'll need to satisfy really with the DEC those are the biggest conditions.
1:00:23So the only question I really have for you, I think most of the conditions are fair.
1:00:28The reclamation, I know the applicant is here, even if the applicant would like to come forward as well.
1:00:33But my question is that the length of a process for essentially for the grass to grow on the sloping areas of the lake itself.
1:00:43I just know that it's going to take a substantial period of time.
1:00:47I know that their first attempt go around they planted stuff and I think they had a major washout.
1:00:51And so they started round two and planting.
1:00:54I think they've made progress and made progress in getting things planted and I think they've succeeded.
1:01:00But from what I understand it still could take you know potentially a year, year and a half for that grass to grow and to really to be strong.
1:01:07And I just I don't want to see a local business just being you know held on hold for the next year and a half waiting.
1:01:13Literally for grass to grow along the bank.
1:01:15Part of the DEC so you know is you do a planting.
1:01:18The seedlings have to come in.
1:01:20We've done two plantings this year.
1:01:21We've done over seven over the past five years.
1:01:23We're at about 65% coverage right now.
1:01:26But you have to have the seedlings and then they have to survive for six months.
1:01:30And then they'll issue beyond that.
1:01:33When you do that math it puts us at probably a year and a half.
1:01:36It's really tough and that's not best case but that's probably about where it is.
1:01:41Definitely won't be before a year.
1:01:42We'll end up losing a lot of grass.
1:01:43We'll end up losing a lot of those two seedlings.
1:01:45So my only concern with that obviously we're all aware of the history.
1:01:50The DEC was out there.
1:01:51There were issued violations.
1:01:53The DEC specifically mentioned the go-kart track and the recreational use of the lake.
1:01:58You know the people swimming in the lake and using that the inflatable obstacle course.
1:02:02I just have trouble reconciling the fact that sort of approving the track and the use of that lake
1:02:10without any sort of clear resolution from the DEC.
1:02:13Now I mean if the DEC, suppose the applicant works with the DEC.
1:02:18If we get something from the DEC indicating that they're okay with the use of the lake and the go-kart track
1:02:24I would have no problem addressing that in a final approval.
1:02:28But until we have something concrete from the DEC stating that they're okay with those uses in that site
1:02:35I just don't see how we can sort of approve a site plan without any of those conditions being addressed.
1:02:40They have been put into the DEC.
1:02:42The requests have been made.
1:02:44So the applicant, so the freshwater wetlands jurisdictional application was made to the DEC
1:02:49and I know the applicant's been working with the DEC to address the violations and the tickets that were issued relative to the go-kart track and the pickleball course.
1:02:57Last correspondence I had from the DEC is that those were to be handled, they were going to adjudicate them administratively
1:03:04but I have not received any type of resolution or indication that they've sort of wrapped that piece up.
1:03:10Oh good. That's good.
1:03:11So yeah.
1:03:12So I know they're working with the DEC on the reclamation and the violations
1:03:17and my position is that I just don't see how we can approve something that we know is at odds with the DEC's permitting on the property that they've issued violations for.
1:03:28Again, if we get something from the DEC indicating that those have been cleared and they're okay with those uses
1:03:34I would have no issue addressing them in a final approval.
1:03:37Again, this is just a preliminary approval.
1:03:39Right.
1:03:40This is not the final.
1:03:41This is just a preliminary approval.
1:03:42If I had a request that was submitted from the DEC I would have no issue addressing that.
1:03:44Obviously I'd work with the town attorney's office to draft something that is more comfortable with.
1:03:50So to be clear, this is a preliminary approval for them to continue on.
1:03:55Correct.
1:03:56Preliminary approval.
1:03:57However, it would authorize, because the interior, the catering space really sort of got lumped into this site plan when the initial violations were issued back in 2024.
1:04:06There was nothing in that, the conversion of the use of that interior space that would have triggered any sort of violation.
1:04:10They had the parking area already, but there's really a change of use that for better or worse got kind of bundled in with this site plan application.
1:04:22But again, the conversion of that space as long as it passes building inspections and fire marshal inspections that it's safe for human occupancy
1:04:29and they've addressed any type of safety issues, comfortable with addressing that with the preliminary approval so they could begin using that space.
1:04:38But it's really the use of the trailer space.
1:04:39It's really the use of the track, pickleball courts and the recreation that I think we need to get something for the DEC on.
1:04:46So I have a question.
1:04:48So what about the pickleball court?
1:04:50Does the DEC have a problem with the pickleball court?
1:04:53Are we approving that?
1:04:55I'd have to double check.
1:04:57I mean I believe it was for all the structures that were constructed within the limits of the mine.
1:05:02I'm not 100% sure whether that includes the pickleball track and the go cart.
1:05:06Pickleball court.
1:05:08Okay.
1:05:09I'd have to confirm whether that was part of that.
1:05:11So I have a question.
1:05:12So our engineering department required a buffer around the track.
1:05:17Basically, you know, we had received pictures.
1:05:19They were forwarded to the town attorney's office demonstrating runoff from the track that was demonstrating clear erosion to the lake.
1:05:26I mean this is something that can be addressed by like an asphalt berm around the edge of the track.
1:05:31That's not a significant...
1:05:32So that protects the lake from any, you know, from runoff.
1:05:35Correct.
1:05:36Yeah, that asphalt will protect erosion.
1:05:38So the track will direct... would direct it, you know, retain it on the track and direct it towards the swales that are within the track.
1:05:44Got you.
1:05:45Okay.
1:05:46Thanks.
1:05:47So do we request like just a simple update from the DEC as long as they know that the planting, everything has been in progress and is in progress?
1:05:56I just don't want to say that...
1:05:58I'd hate to hold them up and keep the outside portion closed, you know, while we're simply waiting for grass to grow on the banks, which obviously just naturally is going to take its time.
1:06:07And I know they do... they have made some valiant efforts to do that.
1:06:10So I did... I did put a call in to represent a contact that I have at the DEC just requesting an update.
1:06:15I mean, again, the satisfaction of those issues with the DEC really rests solely on the applicant.
1:06:21We don't really have any control over that.
1:06:23You know, as long as the applicant keeps working on that, the DEC I'm sure once they come to some type of resolution will provide something to the applicant and they can provide that to us.
1:06:32But, you know, we have no... no authority over how the DEC is handling those violations.
1:06:36Or that mining project.
1:06:39Thank you.
1:06:40Okay.
1:06:41You have questions?
1:06:42I just would have thought this would have come up in the CEQA as opposed to... it wasn't in their comment letter.
1:06:49You know, if they had an issue, why didn't they say it during the CEQA process?
1:06:53Do you... do me a favor, don't... let's wait until we've resolved these issues.
1:06:57I know we're far along in the process with them.
1:06:59And in the CEQA review, they mentioned the things that the engineering was worried about.
1:07:03They're worried about a little bit of runoff in the lake.
1:07:05And they were also worried about... I'm sorry, what was the other... what was the... oh, the wetlands.
1:07:13Those were the two things that they mentioned.
1:07:15And then they said be careful with spillage and notify us if it happens.
1:07:18It just seems odd to me that this is now, at the 11th hour, something that... a hurdle that we have to overcome.
1:07:25That's a year and a half.
1:07:26That's... that would be my only comment.
1:07:28I mean, the DEC's letter, when we went through the CEQA coordination process, they led off with the comment.
1:07:34We advise this agency does not accept or process applications for existing structures.
1:07:38And we do not issue after-the-fact permits for existing structures located within regulated areas.
1:07:43Structures built within a regulated area without benefit of a DEC permit is either a violation of environmental conservation law or it does not require a permit.
1:07:51Permits must be obtained prior to any work.
1:07:53So, I mean, that was, you know...
1:07:55They had... they, like, right off... right off the bat... you know, the violations were not... they're not... this is not a secret.
1:08:00This is not something that's come up at the last minute.
1:08:02I mean, the applicant's been aware of these violations.
1:08:04And they've... again, I've requested sort of follow-ups.
1:08:07They've been aware of these violations.
1:08:10These are not, you know, last-minute conditions.
1:08:12I mean, if the DEC is not going to authorize the use of that lake, then, you know, what are we even talking about?
1:08:18Right.
1:08:23But have they actually, has the DEC at any point said you can't use the lake or they would stop the lake?
1:08:28It's my understanding that they... when the initial violations were issued, rather, they were told to stop the lake.
1:08:34Using that lake.
1:08:36It's my understanding of the... the actions by the DEC.
1:08:40Have you been told to stop using the lake?
1:08:43Yeah. We were told last year.
1:08:45We're in the process of working an agreement out with them.
1:08:48But, again, previously, and Greg knows this, they told us that site plan approval should have nothing to do with the mine and lake area.
1:08:55So that's why I think it's just a little odd that we're crossing this road.
1:09:00Greg knows that, right?
1:09:02I mean, again...
1:09:03But we've got... so you acknowledge that the DEC said to stop using the lake.
1:09:08Right.
1:09:09But they're capable. I think, like, if we get your approval, we wait and then we get their approval.
1:09:14It's just... it's adding so much more red tape where they're more than capable of handling themselves as far as fines and penalties.
1:09:21We've experienced the sharp end of that stick.
1:09:24So I don't know why we're doubling down. That's just the way it seems to me.
1:09:28And I apologize. I'm a little under the weather.
1:09:30So much so.
1:09:31But...
1:09:32Can we separate the go-kart track, the pickable courts, from the actual lake?
1:09:37Like, can't we... if there's no water and they've addressed any of the drainage, then why would we hold back allowing them to use the go-kart tracks?
1:09:45I understand the lake might be... you might need something from the DEC vote.
1:09:48Why not be able to move ahead with the go-kart track? How does that work?
1:09:51But the track itself was also part of the violations that were issued because the track was constructed within the limits of the mine.
1:09:57But then, I mean, it's all part and parcel.
1:10:00You can't...
1:10:01They were issued violations for those improvements that are within the life of the mine.
1:10:04So it's not just the use of the lake. It's not just the track.
1:10:08It's the fact that they're reclaiming the mine and these improvements were done within the limits of the mine.
1:10:14I mean, I just... I don't see how the town board can approve an application and a use that is in violation of the DEC program.
1:10:22If the applicant is working with the DEC, which they've stated many times that they are,
1:10:27if we get something from the DEC that they've cleared the violations and...
1:10:31if they need an amendment to their mine land reclamation permit,
1:10:34I think the board just needs something to be comfortable with and protect themselves saying that, you know,
1:10:39you're not authorizing or approving something that's in violation of the DEC permit requirement.
1:10:44I'm just a little bit confused if... I mean, our engineering department...
1:10:49This goes to the go-kart track. I mean, the pickleball thing to me...
1:10:52I don't even know why we're not approving that, but...
1:10:55But the go-kart track, if our engineers... I mean, they wanted a buffer.
1:11:00They wanted a buffer around the track, clearly, to protect any runoff going into the lake.
1:11:07And they did that probably, I'm going to guess, knowing that the DEC would require that.
1:11:13We, you know, the town required that.
1:11:15So I'm confused a little bit on if we do the buffer, why can't they open the track?
1:11:22Because the track is in violation of the New York State DEC mining program.
1:11:27Buffer or not...
1:11:29Burn or not... I mean, again, you just...
1:11:33I think what the board has before them is a fair resolution.
1:11:36And again, we're not trying to stop anybody.
1:11:39I'm not trying to put anybody out of business.
1:11:41I'm reviewing an application, considering all the factors.
1:11:44This track was built without benefit of any permits from site...
1:11:48I'm not trying to beat the dead horse, but this was done without any approvals.
1:11:52If this was done in a proper fashion, some of these issues could have probably been addressed.
1:11:58Rather than, you know, kind of like trying to wriggle around and, you know, sort of address it at the 11th hour.
1:12:05I mean, again, I don't think there's anything unreasonable in this resolution.
1:12:10I think the town board... I don't feel that the town board can approve something that we know is in violation of the existing DEC mining permit.
1:12:17And until that fact is addressed, I just... I don't see how we can, like, in good conscience, move forward and just say,
1:12:23you're good to use the track even though we know it's in violation.
1:12:26Ken, do you have any kind of timeline?
1:12:27Do you have any kind of timeline from the DEC and when you're working with them?
1:12:31It's tough. You know, we are working with them, but it's really tough.
1:12:34They move slow. They're famously slow. Anyone will tell you that.
1:12:37And we know that.
1:12:39So, I don't know.
1:12:41You know, we're doing everything we can.
1:12:43We've done massive rounds of planting.
1:12:45The seedlings are in. You know, unfortunately, it took...
1:12:47We had Ricky Galea out there five, six years.
1:12:49I mean, we really, really tried.
1:12:51So, it's a tough... I think it's the, um,
1:12:54the consistence on, you know, and also some of the...
1:12:55temperature changes going from warm, hot to cold, hot to cold.
1:13:00So, we've experienced some die-off, but thankfully,
1:13:02it's moving along in a better direction now.
1:13:04But the timing of the DEC is, like, the speed of slaw.
1:13:07It's really tough.
1:13:09Yeah, we're experiencing that with the Navy.
1:13:11Yeah.
1:13:12And that's how we get it.
1:13:15I mean, the resolution...
1:13:16I don't know if you'd like the town attorney to weigh in,
1:13:19but I did review the resolution with the town attorney's office.
1:13:22You know, it satisfies the...
1:13:24site plan, you know, from a planning standpoint,
1:13:27it's appropriate.
1:13:28From a legal standpoint, I didn't get any feedback
1:13:31that it was inappropriate or the conditions were
1:13:35not proper for a preliminary approval resolution.
1:13:39I mean, I just... I don't want to be distinct to death,
1:13:41but I don't see how the board can again approve something
1:13:44that we know is in violation of the DEC.
1:13:47That said, if we can get... if we get something...
1:13:50Even preliminary?
1:13:52Prelimina... I mean, the preliminary resolution
1:13:54is not binding.
1:13:55Preliminary approval is not binding.
1:13:56Again, there's still several conditions that need to be met.
1:13:58But if the applicant can work with the DEC and address those issues with them,
1:14:02I would have no problem addressing that in a final approval.
1:14:05If the DEC is okay with that,
1:14:07recite that in a final approval resolution,
1:14:09and then they'd be off to the races.
1:14:11But I don't see how we can give a final binding approval
1:14:14on anything that we know is in violation.
1:14:17Yeah.
1:14:19How about the pickleball court?
1:14:22What's that doing? What?
1:14:23Like, what's that?
1:14:24Well, is the pickleball court also in the reclamation area?
1:14:27I can get clarification.
1:14:28Again, I do have a call in to the DEC.
1:14:30I can get clarification and seek whether or not that pickleball court
1:14:35is within the limit of the mine.
1:14:37But we know that the go-kart track is.
1:14:40Okay.
1:14:42And I think maybe even just a request to the DEC
1:14:44that if they're waiting to use the pond
1:14:47and they're literally waiting for grass to grow,
1:14:49can they segregate out the go-kart track?
1:14:51Or something to at least let them use those facilities?
1:14:54You know, it's, I understand they've, you know,
1:14:58they've paid all their violation.
1:15:00They've paid all their fines.
1:15:02We're coming into the summer month.
1:15:04I'm no longer looking to financially, you know,
1:15:07hurt them and their business operations.
1:15:09So as they get into summer camps and school's out,
1:15:12you know, I think, you know, to hold them back from opening,
1:15:16to wait for the grass to grow, I think would be an unfair.
1:15:19Okay.
1:15:20Request.
1:15:23So if we can maybe then write to the DEC
1:15:26or get a letter of some kind of confirmation
1:15:28to just kind of separate out which items are which.
1:15:32I would be more comfortable having something back from the DEC.
1:15:37I agree.
1:15:40Can you put them on the burner
1:15:41and see if you can get something from them?
1:15:43Yeah, I'll reach out.
1:15:44Okay.
1:15:46Thank you.
1:15:47And you've reached out as well, right?
1:15:48So, okay.
1:15:49Thank you.
1:15:50Let's do this.
1:15:51Thank you.
1:15:52Thank you.
1:15:53Appreciate it.
1:16:05All right.
1:16:06Next up, we have matters surrounding the monthly code enforcement report.
1:16:11It'll be Town Attorney Howard.
1:16:14Good morning.
1:16:15Rich is out sick today, so I'm covering this.
1:16:18Okay.
1:16:20So everybody has the report?
1:16:25Yeah.
1:16:26Okay.
1:16:27So not a tremendous amount of flashy stuff on here.
1:16:32I have 75 new investigations open during the month of April.
1:16:37Notably, the property maintenance violations will start ticking up
1:16:43with the warmer weather and the rain.
1:16:45You'll start getting those high grass weeds type of things.
1:16:47Had 15 no building permit violations issued.
1:16:54I think on a good note, there's no investigations open for unsafe buildings.
1:17:02In terms of tickets and violations issued, about 75 new tickets or NOVs issued to property
1:17:10owners.
1:17:11No new referrals to Supreme Court.
1:17:12Okay.
1:17:13So, I think that's it.
1:17:14Thank you.
1:17:15Thank you.
1:17:16Thank you so much.
1:17:17[transcription gap]
1:17:2925 apartment units. During the month of April, about 52,000 brought in in rental fees, and that brings total revenue through the end of April to about 147,000 in rental fees.
1:17:45How many people short are we in code right now in terms of officers? Right now we've lost Kai DeRosa, who was one of our code enforcement officers, so we have one vacancy. Are we interviewing? I will be asking personnel to post that soon.
1:18:11Is there like a pace towards overall inspections for the year? I know there's just...
1:18:15It's a massive amount of work, but do they try to pace themselves throughout the year? Are they on track for visiting every single apartment over the course of a year?
1:18:24Well, so the rental permits renew annually now, so some months you're going to have more than others, but they do, with the apartment units, they do go into each unit.
1:18:39So usually you'll have code enforcement officers sort of block out like a two or three day.
1:18:45So you're not going to have to go into every block to go into John Wesley or the Conner Crossings or River Point.
1:18:53Yeah.
1:18:54You know, and sometimes you get slowed down with that because sometimes, you know, the tenants don't necessarily want to let you in or you have to reschedule.
1:19:05So, you know, sometimes those sort of drag out a little bit, but I think, you know, on balance they get most of them done.
1:19:13It's a big task.
1:19:15It is a big task.
1:19:16There's a lot to do.
1:19:18Yeah, I mean, I would say...
1:19:20A lot of rental properties.
1:19:20I would say, you know, one of the issues with having the vacancy in the code enforcement officer position is it's unfortunately a relatively low paid position under our current labor contract.
1:19:32And I've been trying to brainstorm ways to make that a more attractive position because right now there's no town list.
1:19:40Kyle DeRosa was the number one on the town.
1:19:45And now he's gone to Southampton.
1:19:48So that leaves us in the position of sort of hiring from out of town.
1:19:51Anytime you're hiring out of town, especially if it's coming from west, you know, that's a cost to them for commuting.
1:19:58It also makes it more likely that if they get canvassed, they might choose to go to a municipality that's closer to home for them.
1:20:05So I'm hoping that, you know, in the next, maybe Rich has been out, but in the next couple of weeks or so, we might speak with our code.
1:20:15Liaison about a potential plan to help with retention.
1:20:22Good.
1:20:23It's important.
1:20:24It is, you know, because a lot goes into training a new officer.
1:20:28They, you know, we pay for the code classes.
1:20:30It's also time invested by a senior investigator, Downs, town investigator Buckner, you know, learning our systems, learning the IPS program.
1:20:40And I mean, with Kyle DeRosa as an example, he was here for just about a year.
1:20:45And he was fully trained.
1:20:47He's an excellent officer and swept up by Southland.
1:20:56All right.
1:20:57Thank you, sir.
1:20:58No, that's great.
1:20:59Thank you.
1:20:59Thank you.
1:21:01All right.
1:21:02Next up, we have the monthly town clerk report.
1:21:06Clerk Luton.
1:21:08You're the best.
1:21:09Yeah.
1:21:10But you're not last.
1:21:12Oh, yeah.
1:21:13In that case, go back.
1:21:15Sit down.
1:21:17It's been a pretty busy month at the town clerk.
1:21:20Mostly FOIA requests, but with the new enhanced licensing with New York State DMVs and everybody has to come and get copies of their marriage records.
1:21:30Yeah.
1:21:30To prove why their name was changed and birth records.
1:21:33And we have been, people have been panicking over that enhanced license.
1:21:37So we've been really busy with that.
1:21:40It's only been around for how many years, right?
1:21:42It's true.
1:21:43I don't have one quite yet.
1:21:45But I'll get one when I renew my license.
1:21:48Right now, passports are still good to everybody for flying.
1:21:51That's right.
1:21:52So they know that.
1:21:53But other than that, it's really FOIA requests are the big ones.
1:21:59Marriage licenses as well as marriage certificates for the enhanced licenses are the big drain on us.
1:22:08And that's about what fishing licenses are coming in.
1:22:11I mean, it's just a pretty busy office.
1:22:13There's always something going on.
1:22:15But there's nothing there.
1:22:16And then any downtime is trying to catch up on stuff that you have to catch up on.
1:22:20With the master plan and all the local laws coming in, that's all a moving target for us.
1:22:27And then of course we're training everyday.
1:22:29We're working on trying to get resolutions into the new software program and how that
1:22:34works.
1:22:35We've got a meeting tomorrow with some key members of staff to just start familiarizing
1:22:40ourselves with it.
1:22:41We'd like to launch it.
1:22:43First meeting in June.
1:22:44Yeah.
1:22:44[transcription gap]
1:22:44Yeah.
1:22:44Yeah.
1:22:44Yeah.
1:22:44[transcription gap]
1:22:45Yeah.
1:22:45It may or may not happen, but it's going to be right around that time.
1:22:48That's the time we're shooting for.
1:22:50But other than that, it's going very well.
1:22:53Jim, with Civic Plus, is that going to help us with FOIL requests?
1:23:00Well, that's next request is a component of that.
1:23:04Yes, it should help to streamline that.
1:23:07Why we haven't kicked that off yet, I don't know.
1:23:08I think it's ready to go, so I'll check with Jim on that.
1:23:12Next request is part of that.
1:23:13I think really most of it ties into the website, which is also going to be Civic Plus.
1:23:19I think all of it is just going to marry together very nicely.
1:23:22Yeah, I'm just wondering if we could put that next request piece in now
1:23:26and then marry it to the website.
1:23:27We do have the next request in now.
1:23:29Oh, you do?
1:23:29Yeah.
1:23:30I mean, it's been downloaded in, but when we're operating that,
1:23:32I have to find out why that works.
1:23:35Because, yeah, I'd be curious on how that, you know, the efficiency of that.
1:23:40They still come in.
1:23:41It boggles my mind.
1:23:43But, yeah.
1:23:43I didn't realize how many foils come in.
1:23:47Oh, it's that time of year.
1:23:48That time of, you know.
1:23:49Well, a lot of us, you know, a lot of realtors have done that.
1:23:54Well, that's why we're trying to get building and planning on, you know,
1:23:59to get them live so that when you pay a subscription like Southampton,
1:24:04you do it in Southampton, right?
1:24:06And they can access that information without going through the clerk's office.
1:24:10Yeah.
1:24:10Well, we're just a conduit for that.
1:24:12It's just a morning routine.
1:24:13I know, but it would take a lot of people.
1:24:16You know, when they come in and do it.
1:24:18And we're also looking at, I just, I'm looking at the chip to,
1:24:22and with Dime Bank to see if we can streamline some of the application requests coming into our office.
1:24:29We get a lot of requests from out of state for birth certificates and for marriage certificates.
1:24:35And a lot of times where I fill out the application online, send a copy of your ID, valid address,
1:24:42you know, a bill or something.
1:24:43It shows that it's the right address that you live at and a $10 money order and they mail it.
1:24:48Now granted, we answer our mail every day.
1:24:51We get it in now, five minutes later, you're getting what you asked for.
1:24:54We don't hold mail.
1:24:57But I want to streamline that where they can make the application, make the payment online,
1:25:01and then we just .
1:25:04So we're looking at logistics on that.
1:25:07I know we're starting to do that in the fax receiver office.
1:25:10I met with representatives of the bank last week or two weeks ago.
1:25:13Yeah, they're good.
1:25:15So I'm going to put that online.
1:25:17I think that'll streamline a lot.
1:25:19That's it.
1:25:21Great. Thank you, sir.
1:25:23And we got our birdbath in, which is nice out front.
1:25:25Oh, is it up?
1:25:27I know they were working on it this morning.
1:25:29Yeah, it's beautiful. I got to get Joe here and have a little rededication for that birdbath.
1:25:31It's beautiful.
1:25:33Very good. Excellent. Thanks for handling that.
1:25:35You guys are the best.
1:25:37Thanks, Jim.
1:25:39Okay, next up we have matters surrounding the monthly job.
1:25:43Justice Court report with Counselor Apilow.
1:25:53Good morning.
1:25:55Does anyone need a copy?
1:25:57All right, so last month was pretty straightforward.
1:26:01I did have one trial resulted in a 15-day jail sentence.
1:26:05Congratulations.
1:26:07Thank you.
1:26:09And then next week I have a trial on Monday for
1:26:13public urination and two trials for front-end parking on Tuesday.
1:26:18And a few more loaded up for the rest of next month.
1:26:25Other than that, kind of your standard fines that we've been getting floating around that $20,000 to $30,000 a month range.
1:26:34A lot of default judgments in fire marshals.
1:26:37And we'll see in the months to come now that that misdemeanor is out.
1:26:41That one misdemeanor in the fire marshal section is now a violation.
1:26:47You'll see a lot more reflection of those pleas in that section.
1:26:51So that is what I have for the month of April.
1:26:55Great job.
1:26:59Thank you.
1:27:01Excellent.
1:27:03And I'll stay seated.
1:27:05You will stay seated because you're up next.
1:27:07All right.
1:27:09So we'll move on to matters surrounding possible code revision to Chapter 105, bus liability.
1:27:15Everyone have a packet?
1:27:18A bunch of extra.
1:27:19I'll leave it up here.
1:27:20Okay.
1:27:21So in 2019, New York State passed a program where motorists who passed stop school buses,
1:27:26when the stop arm was out, they would receive an automated computerized ticket along with a video of their effects.
1:27:33The courts were hearing these up until 2023.
1:27:35There was a case that came through, State of New York v. Croce.
1:27:39That put it on pause until the law was redrafted to kind of close up some loopholes.
1:27:46And I'll get to more of that later on or when it goes to public hearing.
1:27:51So it was easy for the program to start back up on the five west end towns because the five west end towns has a TVPA,
1:27:59which is Traffic Violations Parking Administration.
1:28:03Now, the five east end towns, we rely on our local courts to handle those.
1:28:08So it makes it a little bit more complicated.
1:28:11It's complicated because these are civil violations.
1:28:14You're either liable or you're not liable.
1:28:16It's not guilty, not guilty.
1:28:18So the judges feel a little bit uncomfortable, and I agree with why they would feel uncomfortable with that,
1:28:24because the civil matters, it's either you're liable or you're not liable.
1:28:28Their judicial oath allows them to make a determination, and they're supposed to have some level of discretion.
1:28:37Like even, you know.
1:28:38Even in county court when someone gets sentenced for a homicide, it's 25 to life,
1:28:42the judge has discretion to determine the sentence.
1:28:45Here, liable, not liable.
1:28:47You can't reduce it.
1:28:49Exactly.
1:28:50So that's really an administrative function and not what our town judges have taken an oath to do.
1:28:58Same thing in the other east end towns.
1:29:00They're all moving toward creating this particular code,
1:29:05and their judges are signing off on removing just the bus lane.
1:29:07All the other VTLs will still remain in the justice court because those are considered criminal violations,
1:29:15and they're in the realm of where the judge can, you know, have them do defensive driving to lower it, things like that.
1:29:21This specific law is, there's really, there's no wiggle room.
1:29:26So it really should be in front of an ALJ.
1:29:29So the code outlines everything that it would require for us to remove them from justice court.
1:29:36And to have an ALJ appointed and to handle these matters.
1:29:40Now the fines for these go to who?
1:29:43This is complicated.
1:29:45So first offense, I believe it's 250.
1:29:48First, when that money is paid, it goes to the county.
1:29:52The county gets the first 90%, and then I believe 45% is parsed out from that and goes to the town.
1:29:58And then some of it goes, I may be getting the percentages wrong,
1:30:01but it goes to the county first and then it's kind of funneled out to whoever's handling it.
1:30:06So the money that would come in, would it cover the cost of an ALJ?
1:30:11It would, but it can't be directly paid to the ALJ because that kind of gets in the way of impartiality.
1:30:17So if a for-profit company is directly paying the ALJ,
1:30:22then you can't really expect that ALJ to be fair and impartial.
1:30:28So I'll speak more to how we would handle payment of that individual and who that person would be.
1:30:36You know, when we get more into it, closer to a public hearing.
1:30:41So that's where we're at.
1:30:43Just so everybody understands, judges can't take testimony like the way an administrative justice can.
1:30:49They can't bring someone to the stand and ask questions.
1:30:52An administrative judge can't.
1:30:54Exactly. So that's why this in particular is inappropriate in front of a justice court.
1:31:01An administrative law judge can't issue a warrant.
1:31:05So if they don't pay the fine, what's our recourse?
1:31:09It'll be like a collections or, you know, the same way if you don't pay a parking ticket,
1:31:14it would result in collections because, again, these are civil matters.
1:31:17You can't get a warrant for a civil matter.
1:31:19And the DMV can't take action against your license for these.
1:31:23Who comes up with the $250 fine?
1:31:26I believe it was through the county in conjunction with the bus-on program.
1:31:32So we kind of have to go by what?
1:31:35They determine the fine is.
1:31:37Last I checked, I believe it's still what it is is $250 for the first offense and $275 and $300.
1:31:45Geez. You're risking kids' lives and this is the fine?
1:31:49No, I agree. I agree. I'm sure as time goes on it'll increase.
1:31:53So when was the last time that it was increased?
1:31:55I think that was 2022, so I'm not sure if it's changed since then.
1:31:59Nothing that I've seen.
1:32:01Do you know about how much we would be losing in revenue by doing this?
1:32:06So what do you mean, to adjudicate them?
1:32:10Well, yes.
1:32:12So the vendor that started this program pays for the administration, the notice, all of those things.
1:32:21So the only cost that I need to figure out would be the cost of having someone preside over these,
1:32:26which I imagine could eventually come from the revenue, but it can't be directly from this company.
1:32:33Right.
1:32:34How many of these do we get in the town of Riverhead?
1:32:38I would say since it started back up after that case went through the appeals, I would say maybe we have 50 in limbo right now.
1:32:49Well, 50 people run the bus, that's it.
1:32:53Oh, yeah. I mean...
1:32:55Allegedly.
1:32:56Yeah.
1:32:57Well, they're on video.
1:32:59Right. But there are some where you have to really determine.
1:33:03You know, exactly when the arm comes out and if the car made an attempt to stop or not.
1:33:10I've seen many of the videos when I've been in court on other matters when these were going in court,
1:33:16and it is kind of scary to see some of them. I'll just leave it at that.
1:33:21That's why the fines should be higher.
1:33:23I agree.
1:33:24But we have no control over that.
1:33:26I don't think so. I'll double check.
1:33:28Double check. We don't. Eric's saying no.
1:33:30Eric's saying no. So no.
1:33:31Eric's saying no.
1:33:33All right. So that's... This is the draft that we're going to have.
1:33:37It's very similar to the other East End towns that have implemented it.
1:33:41So we're just, you know, we're catching up and we're making sure we have something in place
1:33:45so that we can start, you know, this program back up.
1:33:48The judges and the Justice Court are still, you know, are comfortable and they're not, you know,
1:33:54feeling like they're violating their oath or anything like that.
1:33:57And there's no way to add this to their oath of office?
1:34:00Well, their oath is to have discretion and...
1:34:02Okay.
1:34:03And this robs them of that. So I don't think...
1:34:07I don't know how...
1:34:10All right. You know.
1:34:12Just a legal question I figured I'd ask a legal person.
1:34:16So are you saying that this needs to go to public hearing?
1:34:19Yeah, I think so because it's essentially creating a new section of our town code.
1:34:25Yeah.
1:34:26Well, thank you very much for coming.
1:34:28Thank you.
1:34:29Thank you.
1:34:30Thank you, Victoria.
1:34:32Thank you.
1:34:33Okay.
1:34:34Last matter for open session prior to the resolutions is matters surrounding possible code revision
1:34:42chapter 301-283.20 and 301-283.25, location and number of permitted retail and on-site consumption establishments for cannabis.
1:34:55And that's with Matt Charters.
1:34:56Good morning, everybody.
1:34:57Good morning.
1:34:58All right.
1:34:59So in brief, we have been working on this for a little bit in code revision.
1:35:01It has made its way through.
1:35:03The first thing this revision does is correct the permitted zoning use districts.
1:35:08So to my understanding, it's always been the intent of the town to include business CR,
1:35:12which is largely in Wading River, as a permitted zoning use district for cannabis.
1:35:17Just so everyone knows, the rationale was anywhere that retail is allowed, that's where
1:35:22these uses were allowed subject to all the restrictions.
1:35:25It seems like business CR was left out for whatever reason.
1:35:28It might have just been a scrivener's error.
1:35:29So we're adding that zoning use district.
1:35:30We're adding that zoning use district in, but still subject to all the provisions that
1:35:33are in the code.
1:35:34So if one was to locate in corridor one, which is Wading River, we could only have one.
1:35:40But they're subject to all the restrictions, so it's still difficult to do, but it's extremely
1:35:45limited.
1:35:46The second thing this does is codifies on our end the process for applying for a retail
1:35:53or on-site consumption establishment, which this is the process we follow now.
1:35:58This is what the state guideline is.
1:35:59This is just putting it into our code so when someone comes in, they know exactly what
1:36:04they have to do.
1:36:05So the first step in the process, if you guys aren't aware now, we get what's called a notice
1:36:10to municipality.
1:36:11That's the applicant saying, hey, I have a license that has to be filed in the office
1:36:15of the town clerk.
1:36:16That's a requirement of the cannabis law.
1:36:18So we get those.
1:36:19It gets distributed to planning.
1:36:20I respond on behalf of the planning department, on behalf of the town board, saying yay or
1:36:26It fits the requirement or it doesn't.
1:36:27That gets emailed to the town board.
1:36:28That gets emailed to OCM as our opinion on the application.
1:36:33So that's what you see in C. That's a new section.
1:36:36And it's also going to put a timeframe on those positive responses.
1:36:41So say someone comes in, so we're not necessarily having this issue now, but they could get
1:36:46a response from the town, and then they don't do anything.
1:36:48They essentially sit on a location or whatever.
1:36:52So now it's going to have a 90-day timeframe, that we'll track, that the letter is good
1:36:57and that once that 90 days elapse, they'll have to reapply.
1:37:01Now when they reapply, they go...
1:37:03Same thing all over again.
1:37:05But if some...
1:37:06How does it work?
1:37:07Like if one person applies for a specific location, they get approved.
1:37:12Somebody else applies for a location right next door, they're denied because it's within
1:37:182,000 feet.
1:37:19When they reapply, are they at the top of the list or are they...
1:37:23How does the timing going to be figured out?
1:37:25So my opinion was...
1:37:26Yeah.
1:37:27My opinion is...
1:37:28So the first person applies, they get approved.
1:37:30They have 90 days to submit a land use application, either building permit, special permit, site
1:37:35plan, whatever application they need.
1:37:38Then if they never do that, they're on the 90-day timeframe that it elapsed, then the
1:37:44next person, I guess someone else could apply in that corridor.
1:37:46But the second person, no matter what, if we have responded positively to someone, the
1:37:51second person would get denied because they don't meet the requirements.
1:37:54They would have to reapply too once the other person applies.
1:37:56So how will we do that?
1:37:57How will somebody...
1:37:58If somebody...
1:37:59Let's play...
1:38:00Yeah.
1:38:01We're the second person.
1:38:02We've been denied because it's 1,000 feet from another pre-approved location.
1:38:03Okay.
1:38:04That pre-approved location never opens up, doesn't do anything.
1:38:05Time expires, they're out.
1:38:06How does the other applicant even know that...
1:38:07I think they'd be working with the state to look at a location anyway because that's
1:38:08what happens before they come to us and that they would, like anyone else, they'd have to
1:38:09call the town, see what's in, see what's not in, and then they would have to call the
1:38:10town to see what's in.
1:38:11So that's what we're doing.
1:38:12[transcription gap]
1:38:15We're doing...
1:38:16Do we comprise like a list or something with expiration dates on them so people can look
1:38:17in and check back...
1:38:18I could, but...
1:38:19...what's next...
1:38:20...let's just...
1:38:21[transcription gap]
1:38:28...let's just...
1:38:29[transcription gap]
1:38:45It's so limited, and we have an internal list that we work off of that's constantly evolving
1:38:52that I'm going to be working with Anna from our GIS department to really update and get the map much better than it is now.
1:38:58So Anna, if you're listening, we have a little work to do.
1:39:01But I think it would be too difficult.
1:39:03It's very easy for someone to call, and then, you know, in planning, we're tracking all of them.
1:39:09We know where they are, where they aren't.
1:39:10We have two that are operational now.
1:39:12We have two in Hopper, essentially.
1:39:15It's easy just for us to say yes or no.
1:39:17Common sense would say don't go out and buy a piece of property because you want to think you want to put a cannabis establishment on it.
1:39:25Investigate, do the law, work the law, do your due diligence, and anybody, it's just a foolish move if you buy something hoping you're going to get it.
1:39:33It's a buyer beware situation, unfortunately.
1:39:35Right, 100%.
1:39:36And then the last section you see is just the statutory authority that the state gave municipalities to enact this law,
1:39:43establish time, place, and manner.
1:39:45So that's really it.
1:39:47Looking to get it in for publish and post next week if the board is okay, and then public hearing in June.
1:39:54Sounds good to me.
1:39:58You know, let's say somebody comes in and they have their, you know, they put it in for this property,
1:40:05and then somebody comes in and puts it 1,000 feet away.
1:40:08Do you notify this person?
1:40:10Everyone who submits one gets a response from the town.
1:40:13Saying that there's one 1,000 feet away.
1:40:15So, yeah, you'll get a response that says, oh, you don't meet the distance requirement from whatever it is,
1:40:19either another establishment or one of our things.
1:40:23And so you'll say from another establishment.
1:40:26Yep, yep.
1:40:26And our response, just so you know the way it works, our response goes to the state.
1:40:30I often will provide it to the person who's applying also.
1:40:33So you've given them notice.
1:40:35They get notified why it's getting denied.
1:40:38There's another cannabis operation within 1,000 feet.
1:40:40Yeah, whatever.
1:40:41That puts them, they can call you and say, when did they?
1:40:45Give it.
1:40:46That was 89 days ago.
1:40:48Yeah.
1:40:49Okay, they did 20 minutes before you called.
1:40:51Right.
1:40:52Yeah.
1:40:53Sometimes that's how it happens.
1:40:54Yeah, exactly.
1:40:55Our timelines all start from when we get the official notice.
1:40:58Right.
1:40:59That's the only way to do it.
1:41:00Does it get time stamped?
1:41:01Yeah.
1:41:02It gets time stamped by the clerk and then the clerk, Jim, sends it out to everybody.
1:41:05And then we respond.
1:41:06We have 30 days to respond and then we can ask for an additional 30 days if we need to.
1:41:10Good.
1:41:11I just don't see it here, but we had a discussion about the areas of the state.
1:41:14Okay.
1:41:15So, the area of the state is downtown when there's just never going to be a cannabis
1:41:19shop.
1:41:20Correct.
1:41:21Because there's no locations and people were continuously applying in different locations.
1:41:24Yeah.
1:41:25So, are we addressing that or just?
1:41:27The recommendation in speaking with the town attorney's office is to, we're going to leave
1:41:30our code the way it is, only because in the future, something can change in zoning that
1:41:36would maybe allow these uses to happen.
1:41:39We don't want to necessarily be too restrictive, but there's enough overlap with things that
1:41:44would prevent it that the likelihood that it could go downtown is very, very slim.
1:41:51And typically, just where is the majority of this business CR district?
1:41:56So, say, Guayne River or Sid?
1:41:58Guayne River, it's on 25th.
1:42:00Is that East Wind or what is that?
1:42:02East Wind is business CR.
1:42:05The shopping center is business CR.
1:42:07But we have to remember, there's churches there.
1:42:10There's a school across the street.
1:42:12So, it's...
1:42:13And a lot of traffic already.
1:42:14Yeah.
1:42:15So, it's really daycares, all that thing is...
1:42:16And then, if one could locate on a component parcel in corridors one, two, four, and five,
1:42:17there's only one establishment, either on-site consumption or a dispensary.
1:42:18So, there will not be some overwhelming number in those four corridors.
1:42:19Corridor three, which is Route 58, allows them every 2,500 people, which we have.
1:42:20So, we're not going to have to go through that.
1:42:21Okay.
1:42:22So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:23So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:24Okay.
1:42:25So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:26Okay.
1:42:27So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:28Okay.
1:42:29So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:30Okay.
1:42:31So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:32Okay.
1:42:33So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:34Okay.
1:42:35So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:36Okay.
1:42:37So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:38Okay.
1:42:39So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:40Okay.
1:42:41So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:42Okay.
1:42:43So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:44Okay.
1:42:45So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:46Okay.
1:42:47So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:48Okay.
1:42:49So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:50Okay.
1:42:51So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:52Okay.
1:42:53So, we're going to have to go through that.
1:42:54Okay.
1:42:55but even with quarter two do you still have to go back 2,500 feet into quarter one?
1:42:59That's a good question. I'll consult but I would think so. I think we would still have the distance requirement between...
1:43:06So we still have to keep the saturation as a separate clause, right?
1:43:08Yeah, I would say yes. But I would want to consult with our attorneys first.
1:43:13Got it.
1:43:14Alright, thanks.
1:43:16Cool. Thank you Matthew.
1:43:17Thank you.
1:43:18Appreciate it.
1:43:19No problem.
1:43:20Okay, that concludes our open session. Now we're going to move on to resolutions.
1:43:28Deputy Supervisor Higgins, come on up and read the resolutions.
1:43:38Okay, so if the board's ready, we'll get right into it.
1:43:47Resolution number one, Water District Capital Project 825-2.
1:43:49Okay.
1:43:50Resolution number two, 12507, Budget Adoption for Well 4-1 Capacity Increase.
1:43:56Resolution number two, authorizes the supervisor to execute agreement with Todd O'Connell, Architect PC for Ambulance District Building Renovations.
1:44:05We're moving right along with the process up there?
1:44:09Good to see you.
1:44:10Now resolution number three allows us to pay for that Architect Capital Project number 12506, Ambulance District New Building Capital Reserve Fund Balance Transfer.
1:44:19Number four, authorizes Highway Superintendent Expenditures 2025-2026.
1:44:26Number five, sets hours for town beaches.
1:44:30Number six, sets hours for town beach parking lots.
1:44:35Just to be clear on this, the first one you read sets hours for town beaches.
1:44:40The hours are from 11 a.m. to 6 p.m.
1:44:43Those are the hours that lifeguards are on duty at the town beaches, town beaches.
1:44:48Right, just so the public is clear and also understands that.
1:44:51That the bathrooms would be available at that time as well.
1:44:55And the other one, the beaches, the parking lots are actually open from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m.
1:45:01But lifeguards will only be there from 11 a.m. to 6 p.m.
1:45:04Right.
1:45:06Number seven, ratifies the salary increase for a senior office assistant.
1:45:12Number eight, ratifies the appointment of a water treatment plant operator to be.
1:45:17Number nine, ratifies the provisional appointment of an employee to wastewater treatment plant operator 4A.
1:45:23And number ten, sets terms and conditions of employment for deputy sewer district superintendent.
1:45:31That's for Tim Allen.
1:45:34Number 11, reappoints a provisional senior wastewater treatment plant operator 2.
1:45:39Number 12, appoints a seasonal water treatment plant operator 2B.
1:45:47Number 13, appoints a fire marshal 1.
1:45:52Number 14 and number 15, appoints a maintenance mechanic 2.
1:45:57Number 16, appoints member to the town of Riverhead Hispanic Development Empowerment and Education Committee.
1:46:06Number 17, ratifies the resignation of an automotive equipment operator.
1:46:13Number 18, accepts the retirement of a maintenance mechanic 2B.
1:46:16Number 19, accepts the retirement of a maintenance mechanic 3.
1:46:19Number 19, accepts the retirement of a maintenance mechanic 4.
1:46:25Both these people, Christopher Schroer and Ziggy Ragupka, long time employees of the town, great workers.
1:46:37We wish them nothing but the best on their retirement.
1:46:40We appreciate their years of service to the town.
1:46:43He said to see them go.
1:46:44They're both very good workers.
1:46:45Thank you.
1:46:46Absolutely.
1:46:47Best of luck to them in their retirement.
1:46:49Number 20, extends the bid for electric motor repair and replacement, including emergencies.
1:46:54Number 21, authorizes the town clerk to publish and post notice to bidders for 2025 annual construction contract.
1:47:01Number 22, authorizes the town clerk to publish and post notice to bidders for removal and disposal of sludge cake and grit screen waste.
1:47:10Number 23, authorizes the town clerk to publish and post notice to bidders for 2025 annual construction contract.
1:47:15Number 25, authorize the town clerk to publish and post notice to bidders for 25.
1:47:18[transcription gap]
1:47:45July 18th and August 1st, 2025.
1:47:48All right.
1:47:49Number 27, amends resolution 934-2024 for Racetrack Knott Street,
1:47:552025 Fall Motorsports Racing Series at Epcot.
1:48:00Number 28, amends resolution 935-2024 Racetrack Knott Street,
1:48:052025 Summer Motorsports Racing Series at Epcot.
1:48:08Number 29, amends resolution 969-2024 East End Arts Mosaic Festival,
1:48:16addition to location of event.
1:48:19Number 30, authorizes designated alcohol service vendors to serve alcohol
1:48:23at the Mosaic Community Street Painting Festival.
1:48:27Number 31, adopts a local law to amend Chapter 231 of the Riverhead Town Code
1:48:31titled Fire Prevention Section 7 thereof, titled Definitions.
1:48:3632, adopts local law to amend
1:48:38Chapter 231 of the Riverhead Town Code titled Fire Prevention Section 24
1:48:43thereof, titled Interference with Fire Department Fire Marshal or CEO.
1:48:48Number 33, adopts local law to amend Chapter 231 of the Riverhead Town Code
1:48:52titled Fire Prevention Section 14 thereof, titled Assistance to Authorized
1:48:56Agency's Reimbursement of Expenses.
1:48:59Number 34, adopts local law to amend Chapter 231 of the Riverhead Town Code
1:49:04titled Fire Prevention, didn't get the article, Flammable and Combustible Liquids.
1:49:08Number 35, adopts a local law to amend Chapter 231 of the Riverhead Town Code
1:49:14titled Fire Prevention Section 25 thereof, titled Outdoor Fires.
1:49:19Number 36, adopts local law to amend Chapter 231 of the Riverhead Town Code
1:49:25titled Fire Prevention Section 66 thereof, titled Penalties for Events as Notice of Violation.
1:49:30Number 37, assesses cost of labor and material for previously authorized remedial actions
1:49:36at premises known as 12 Longview Drive Riverhead Town Code.
1:49:38Number 38, américans have full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full
1:50:08responses to comments on conditional negative declaration cnd for the site plan application of
1:50:13island water park dba scott's point site plan amendments 5835 middle country road calverton
1:50:19new york south african tax map number 600-135-1-7.34 number 40 grants preliminary approval
1:50:26for the site plan amendment application of island water park dba scott's point 5835 middle country
1:50:32road calverton new york south african tax map number 600-135-1-7.34 and number 41 pays the bills
1:50:51okay this concludes the open session of our work session for today
1:50:55in a moment we will go into executive session to discuss under legal uh potential litigation
1:51:02acquisition of real property with howard and hurley and thomas and possible litigation matters
1:51:08surrounding possible litigation with howard so if i could have a motion to close open session
1:51:14and go into executive session supervisor can i just yes ma'am i just want to make a comment i was
1:51:19at the chamber of commerce meeting this morning and there was an article in newsday published
1:51:24yesterday with regard to items that are not going to happen in the town and that was based off the
1:51:30bid website i spoke
1:51:32with liz o'shaughnessy and she asked newsday to refer to the chamber of commerce for the events
1:51:37that are actually taking place because what posted on the bid website's not accurate information okay
1:51:43if you could speak to liz o'shaughnessy we appreciate it thank you okay i did reach out to
1:51:48uh tara smith from newsday that did the article yesterday and explained to her um that
1:51:54the cardboard boat race is put on through the chamber and not the bid correct yeah
1:52:02thank you okay
1:52:04they passed their budget so they get their social fees you wanted a motion
1:52:08motion to uh close open session and go into executive session second second all in favor aye
1:52:14all opposed okay we will now retire to executive session thank you everyone have a great weekend
1:52:32thank you

Full Transcript

Thank you. Thank you. I pledge of allegiance. Councilman Kern. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Bob.

Okay, we're here for work session today. The first item on the agenda today is matters surrounding Riverhead Police Department. We're going to do a Riverhead in Action video in support of National Police Week, which happens to be this week. It ends on Saturday. So if we can prep that and run it.

Councilman Rothwell and myself went down to the police department. We're the liaisons to the police department. And we got a little tour of headquarters and spoke to the captain-in-chief. And this is an abbreviated version of it. And we're hoping that the longer version will actually eventually be on our YouTube channel because it was quite a lot to take in. But we have to cut it down a little bit for our work session. Hi, this is Tim Hubbard, supervisor of the great town of Riverhead. And you're watching Riverhead in Action, a media campaign designed to highlight the incredible work of the 350-plus employees that comprise Riverhead's 26 departments and sub-departments. Thank you. [transcription gap] Thank you. job openings, local businesses, and other town happenings. I hope you find this informative and enjoyable, and thank you for watching Riverhead in Action. I have with me today Councilman Ken Rothwell. He and I are the liaisons to the Riverhead Police Department. And with us from the Police Department, we have our new Police Chief, Ed Frost, and we have our new Captain, Captain Danielle Wilsey. We're up to 100 sworn officers in the department. I'm gonna let you two bring up the award that town just recently got. The two awards from the state. Yes, we were recognized by the Stop Dewey, MAD, and the Governor's Traffic Safety Committee for a department of 51 to 100 members for excellence for the year of 2024, for DWI enforcement and education as well. You know, the SROs teaching at the schools, to the kids in the high school. We do our pre-prom meeting with the people going to the prom so they understand the dangers of drinking and driving or using drugs and driving. That's what's incredible is that it involves your community engagement outside of just law enforcement enforcing rules, regulations, and town codes and laws, but your community engagement getting out there into the high school, into the community has just been phenomenal work. We're inside the communications room. This is where all the phone calls come into the Police Department. They're really the heart and soul of the department. Everything that comes through the department starts right here. So it's important that they get the information right and they dispense that information out to the officers on the road. Correct, we have 11 full-time dispatchers, and they handle the call from call taking until the end. They'll take all the information in, they'll dispatch it out to the officers or the ambulance, and all the communication from the police officer to headquarters comes through the dispatchers. They have a lot of responsibilities in here. They're great at their job. Appreciate them all being here. And then as soon as the call is over, they'll close it out, and usually there's two or three more calls coming in. They are busy all day long. Now, in noticing, it's kind of cramped in here with the number of dispatchers, so part of the plan is when we refurbish the Old Town Hall and the Justice Court, you're going to be able to expand on the other side of the building into where Justice Court was, so it will make this a little more pleasant and workable for all the dispatchers in here. They have six screens up each. They're looking at a lot of things at one time. If they had a little more room, that would be great. All right, this is our front desk area. It's where the desk officer sits, monitors calls coming in, as well as taking walk-in complainants that might come to the police department to report a matter. Also behind us is the patrol sergeant's desk. So the patrol sergeant's desk is in charge of all the officers that are working in a given tour. This is also where all our spare radios are stored, you know, so they can get charged up. So this is a busy hub of the police department. What was the driving force that made you decide to make this your career? Me, personally, my godfather and my cousin was in law enforcement. He was actually in the Treasury Department as an agent. I kind of always looked up to him. Captain Wilsey, how about you? Well, I've had no one in my family at all ever who was a police officer. I think I just want to do something different from everybody else. I always say, so proud of the blue in terms of that here in Riverhead in the small-town politics. It's community policing leads to community engagement. I just look around and the chief's pictures of the kids in lacrosse games and things like that, that's what's great about Riverhead, our community, is that, you know, we're seeing you at the family functions, at the family games. I'm just so proud, too, of the families that you have and the engagement which leads to just, people can approach you on the athletic field, outside, in restaurants. Talking around. So many of our officers are also involved in volunteer firefighting services as well. And so that's just, that's what's great about Riverhead is that wherever you go and you seem to bump into a police officer and you have kind of that casual chat, and that also keeps you alert towards what's going on, all the small things that maybe those 911 calls that don't come through, you just gain it from being around town. We're in our detective squad. For our police department, detectives investigate felony-level crimes up. One thing I want to say about the detective division is that our close friends, they have a closure rate, or their closure rate, I should say. I used to work here no longer. Their closure rate is phenomenal on cases. There's a closure to the case, there's an arrest, and the case is solved. Now we're outside with the motorcycle squad of the Riverhead Police Department. The bikes that you see in front of you were donated to us through Suffolk County PD, through County Executive Ed Romaine, and this was solely set up by Councilman Rothwell, so I'll let Councilman Rothwell take the lead here. So absolutely, thank you very much, County Executive Ed Romaine. We have a full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head [transcription gap] full head full head full head full head full head full head [transcription gap] I had an eight-week course with the Nassau County Police Department going over everything from the nomenclature of the motorcycles, everything to out riding with normal traffic and everything of such. Escorts, funerals, everything in between. It was an eight-week course. It was very vigorous. A lot of maneuvers, getting to know the bike, like Officer Sashkevich said, a lot of traffic safety with the bike, traffic, parades, line of duty, funerals, regular funerals, any kind of police escorts. These bikes could actually do a lot more than what a lot of people think they can, and they're a very great, excellent tool to have with the police department. In closing, we had a wonderful day here today with the Riverhead Police Department with Chief Frost and Captain Wilsey, and we got a tour of the building, the inside parts from communication center. We got to the detective division and how things are handled and how the operations work daily here. Our motorcycle unit is awesome. We're so proud of that. But we couldn't be more proud of the men and women of the Riverhead Town Police Department. They do a fantastic job. It's a busy department. Each officer is trained in so many different aspects of law enforcement. It makes a better, well-rounded police department. And Ken, I don't know about you, but I can't say enough good about these guys, the men and women. They're incredible in the work they do. And so are many of the things that we haven't talked about. We haven't touched upon today, our K-9 unit and other things in our CROP units that are out there. Just phenomenal. So proud of our men and women in blue. Absolutely. Scuba team. Yes. Marine Bureau. Absolutely. There's so much included that we didn't get to, but this will just give the people some idea of what our police department does and what they're about. So this has been an episode of Behind the Badge of Riverhead in Action, and we thank you for tuning in. As I said, this is an abbreviated version. Very shortly we'll have up on our YouTube channel the full interview and the full tour, so you can tune in and get much more information than this. Thank you, Justin, for coming down and doing this. Great job. We appreciate it, as always. And we will move on now to the second matter on the list today, as matters surrounding the monthly police report with Chief Frost. That was a good segue, coming right into your monthly report. Thank you for coming down and filming us. The men and women of the police department are very proud, and they do an excellent job for the community overall. I wouldn't be able to have such a good department without them. Okay. You guys have it all? Yes. Okay. So, you know, the criminal incidents is what I kind of look at as well. It's 132. Let's see what. So, we went down from last month. March was 150. So, you know, that's a good trend going down, obviously. We had a total of 2,838 calls for the month. A little higher than last year. Pretty much. Okay. So, I'm going to go back to what I have for you guys. Unless you guys have. It was two non-fatal overdoses. One out in Wayne River. One out in 58. Both Narcan? Yes, by EMS. One required two doses and the other required one. I attended the Heart of Riverhead Civic Association and Claudette actually asked me a good question. So, I would like to get her answer out. So, she asked, what is the best way to get a good result? She asked, what is the number of, what is the percentage of criminal incidents compared to non-criminal? So, our criminal incidents are only 4% of our total call volume for the whole month. 4%. 4%. So, I just figured I'd give you that information. But it's 100% of the negative headlines that appear. Yeah. You know, unfortunately, you know, there are some serious incidents that do occur. But like in the video, we do, you know, most of the time make arrests. And, you know, on those serious incidents. So, you know, detectives do an excellent job on that. Oh, the closure rate. I can't speak enough about that. Yeah. So, I mean, and again, all the other technology-based stuff that's out there is greatly helping us. So. Cameras are all up around town. We've all set up with those now. Yeah. The last section has been installed. They actually look good. And pretty much what I got, unless you guys have anything to say. I just want to give you a compliment that I was speaking with a friend of mine who was a police officer. And he was a police officer. [transcription gap] And she's a police officer. [transcription gap] the different smoke shops and see who's selling illegally you also do the huddle for hunger the football the police department goes and has football games with the community you do the bike rodeo with the community giving bikes right and you do the toys at christmas so much outreach that you do that can't even be covered in the video i just you know can't say enough i'm trying to get the department more out to the public and doing more public events you know i think in the past that's kind of where we lacked a little bit so that's a big push for me as well yeah chief i had a meeting last week with uh school superintendent pellish she was ecstatic about the sro officers in the school she said the the relationship the bonds that have been formed between the students and the officers are incredible she said there was a little concern when they first came in some groups came in and met with her they were afraid of what this was going to look like and they were afraid of what the school would do and they were afraid of what it was going to be and how it was going to work those same groups are now openly communicating with the officers extremely happy that they're there and uh you know like i said eventually someday maybe we can get one in every school but uh extremely happy and the two officers are doing they're doing a fantastic job it's good to hear yeah i had meetings with those those groups as well i know with and it's that that's not the purpose of an sro it's to actually show the police as like a person and reach out on a you know you know an individual basis to show you know where people as well were just not you know you know and i think eric and kaylee were a good choices to be to fill those spots agreed they're definitely good officers so good i would like you to know that i attended the bike rodeo the other day and it was wonderful to see the way that your officers interacted with the families and especially the children high-fiving them encouraging them and structuring a relationship and and you could see the trust that was kind of being being formed and that's important they really did a great job yeah that's it that's been going on for at least 30 years oh yeah absolutely absolutely it's a long-running event but again it's big out you know outreach to the public at all ages is important for me so that's how i you know put it through my department so they know i'm that's what i'm looking for so it was just so nice to see so many kids on bicycles yeah you know not not doing this yes right yeah absolutely sure on the revenues collected is that correct is 736 it is correct we're we with our rms changeover we lost our alarm billing module so we're working on we actually have to hand right now get those bills out so that's pretty pretty much our biggest drop is that i'm working we've been working on developing the program to do it electronically but when we went over it knocked out our module where our old system had an automatic one so i'm working with it and we're and we have an intern starting uh next week so we're going to use uh that individual to hope you know speed that process up at least getting the bills out and there are there are some bills that are outstanding that you know i have to work with the town attorney's office for uh you know collecting the information the revenue i paid my alarm bill good yeah changing over the new system had you know a lot of advantages but we did lose some other stuff that you know it's so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so 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right so we put together a number of slides showing our accomplishments things we'd like to do goals that we have our opening slide shows you the Sound Avenue Preserve before we touched it this is looking from private road Terry Road down towards Sound Avenue you so to the left is what became the Sound Avenue Preserve so in the next slide please this is the committee members some you know some you don't but we also have Julie was not ski attends our meetings as a liaison from the iconic land dress so we're fortunate to have her input you know as well you know as as everyone else so it's a good committee you know we all have a lot of experience but different properties and also could you just identify yourselves sure I'm janice Leonti I'm the chairperson of the committee George and George Bartlett and Nancy Gilbert and then go but very good let's go to get a memory point at that Ann Marie is not listed on there she is our counsel and we love her next slide Justin and we have a mission to identify review and recommend lands to be purchased as open space. At this point right now as you know we don't have funds to spend. In the past a lot of money from the CPF has been spent on purchasing property so now we're paying down debt in the town. So that seems to be working nicely but we want to do more stewardship of existing open space sites and they need it. There are things that we've done and you'll see that later on in the slides. So the next slide shows the purchases since the inception of the program in 2002 approximately. The last one is Sharpers Hill in Jamesport but that's highlighted because that was a county purchase. And Janice I would mention that these names are the owners of the property so they're names you might not recognize. Right. Right. These are the owners of the property. Right. These are not what the properties are known by now. Right. So just for example you know we have renamed different things you know the Goldman property we're calling the Millpond Preserve because it encompasses Millpond. So is it official? No but I guess we can get that done. The Sound Avenue Preserve is the Carter, Larson Carter property and you know we have a big sign out there now. So next slide you'll see some of the summary of purchases and the money that was spent from CPF funds and county funding. So also the town has a management agreement for Sharpers Hill. No go ahead I'm sorry. Oh okay. And also one would be coming for North Fork Preserve and that's not in place yet. So nothing has been done there. Sharpers Hill there has been work done. So that's a good thing. Okay. [transcription gap] Okay. [transcription gap] Okay. Okay. So the next slide will show... That's where I come in. Right. It will show Weeping Willow, and George is going to give you a whole background about Weeping Willow. Does everybody know where the Weeping Willow Hotel was on West Main Street? I mean, it was really a blight. And I guess it's a classic example. Excuse me, I have a little bit of a cold. I'm getting over it. A classic example of how the town took the property or bought the property and improvements on the property There was a little bit of controversy at the time. I was on the town board when this was purchased, and it was expensive, but given the sewage treatment system that existed there, maybe we can show the next slide. Show the next slide. And on the left, it shows what the hotel looked like at the time before the demolition. On the right is what it looked like after all the buildings were removed and reinforced. Another reason why it was purchased is because of the amount of hard soil and the surface area that existed there for parking and buildings alone. You can imagine the stuff that was washed into the river from that operation, not only by the septic, but all by the pavement and runoff and everything like that. Next slide. I guess we can go on to the next slide. The improvement that has been made by this committee fairly recently was the old fencing that exists along the eastern section of the property. We can go to the next slide, showing the new fencing that's been installed there. And the committee would like to also invest in some native vegetation to be planted there at a later date. So that's kind of a typical example of what the committee, the priorities of the committee is now to maintain the properties that have been purchased by the open space. And as we say that there is rarely a beautiful fence, but in this case, it's a beautiful fence. If you have any questions as we go along, if we can't answer it, we can find the answer for you. Maybe. Yeah. Okay. Yes, next slide. Sound Avenue Preserve, I guess is. Yes. Sound Avenue Preserve. Here we're looking at Terry Road is to the left side, and we're just looking north across the meadows that meet Sound Avenue. And north of that, the tree line, at Sound Avenue Preserve, you walk through the meadow trails, through the wooded area, and then up to another meadow area that ascends gently. It's hikeable and excellent for bird watching and all sorts of things. So the next slide will show a bit more. We had a beautiful sign made up that shows people on Sound Avenue driving by that this is Town of Overhead Nature Preserve. And how the property was purchased and improved. So the next slide is an aerial shot. Sound Avenue is at the bottom of the screen, and it shows the trails that go through the meadow area. The highway department used their big brush cutter to cut the trails. And there's a bisecting road about halfway up the slide. That goes into the wooded area, and then atop is the next meadow, the East End. And then the next slide is the that you can hike through. It's a short but nice and easy hike if you want to do that. And you can see horses in the fields and that kind of thing. So it is a wonderful spot. The next slide. We had a barn which we all thought was very charming on the Sound Avenue Preserve property. And we really wanted to use it. And part of the roof caved in. And then the engineering department took a look at it and said it would just can't be fixed. It would have to be demolished. They had to rebuild it almost entirely. So they did demolish the barn. So that's gone. And it was a good move because it was becoming dangerous. You know, people could break into it or jump in from the collapsed part and that kind of thing. So the next slide shows just a couple of improvements at the Sound Avenue Preserve. You know, we've got birds going in and out of those bird houses. There are benches to rest. And then the trails go. And then the trees are pretty much in each direction up through the meadow. So it's lovely now. And we'd like to do some more planting there. Particularly in the lower part around the parking area. Soften things up. We did planting when, I guess about 2012. And I'd say most of it survived. But some did not. So that's. Ron Charles, You know what? We would like to maybe bring our Riverhead in Action video out and maybe go with you guys on a walking tour of a couple of these places. Because they really are beautiful, pristine pieces of property. And I think we should be proud of it and let the general public know about these properties that may not have been up there. We've talked about that a lot. Yeah. One of the things we'd like to do is we would like to have this possibility of a kiosk being constructed on this property. And it would be dedicated to the display of the history heritage of Sound Avenue. And Sound Avenue Preserve. Let's tell the people who drive down Sound Avenue. From Queens. Terry's are probably, if not the, they're definitely one of the oldest generational families. Yeah. In the founding fathers of the town of Riverhead. That would be an idea maybe for the back of the kiosk is the history of the family. The charity family. Yes. So we're thinking about the kiosk being placed right off the parking area. So people coming in could see that, get some information about it, and then take their hike or vice versa. I thought that you had somebody that was going to build a kiosk. I was going to build that. We have an Eagle Scout candidate. I was just going to suggest that would be a perfect project. Yeah. And he met with us. He came to the meeting. And he was wonderful. He came with his dad. Yeah. And he said he would oversee this building of the kiosk. So that was just a couple of months ago. He's in school. He's in scouts. So whenever he's ready, we're ready. Right. Right. It'll be done before he's 18. If he wants to be an Eagle Scout, he's going to do the project. That's right. That's right. So we're going to build that. And we're going to build that. We're going to build that. We're going to build that. So he's going to be an Eagle Scout. He's going to do the project. That's right. So the next slide. Nancy or George. Yes, it's mine. Okay. Oh, George will take this. You know, I was looking for the interpretation of what Meermog meant. And it's a gathering plate by the Native Americans, a gathering place of fishermen. It's interesting. It was probably a great place for the Indians and Native Americans to gather for the fishing expeditions. This was purchased in 1936. It's a very old place. It was done in 2008. About 2.3 acres of property. This was purchased because the residents down there who owned the property, I think primarily to the west of this, were complaining about people driving down to the end of the point, the road there. And they were complaining about people going onto their property. So that was one of the reactions of the town of why they bought this property. At the time, it seemed like a very expensive piece of property. But now, I think it was a very, very good investment. The park was built with a grant from the Office of Parks, Recreation, Historic Preservation for $350,000. And the town kicked in about $20,000 for the park area. There's a beautiful wooden walk right through there that takes you down through the woods into the beach. It's part of the building of the project of the construction. It's too bad we couldn't save the other side of South Jamesport Island. Yeah. But this, the next slide will show you what the possibility of this place was. If you can imagine, this was a hotel that was built on that site. Nancy said this is a 1910 photograph of the hotel. If you can imagine what was built. I can imagine what was built there at one time. This was actually dismantled in 1952. That's when it was . I thought that it burned down. Nope. There were two other hotels that burned down. But this one was dismantled. But this one was dismantled. Yeah. Amazing. No one knows that it was over there. Next slide. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It's just . . . It's also amazing that way back then, Riverhead, you know, Jamesport is in Riverhead. Yeah. [transcription gap] It was all about hotels. There was hotels put up. Right. Way back. Way back then. Resorts. Yeah. Yeah. It was a heyday resort area. And it's heyday. It was amazing. People . . . Well, we know the history. Let's go on to the open space. All right. I get Sharper's Hill. And sorry we don't have a lot of beautiful pictures to show you. The reason this is so critically important is that 3,000 years ago, there was a very large, very large, very large, very large, very large, very large, very large, very large, very large. And 3,000 years ago, the Native Americans started using this as a burial site. So it's critically important, archaeologically and historically. The preservation story is, as you all know, very long and complicated. The site plan proposal was made in 2004 to put in a commercial development that included 145,000 feet of commercial development. And was intending to . . . To remove 88,000 cubic yards of sand. Now, how much is 88,000 cubic yards of sand? Want me to show the next? Well, no. Okay. But, it's fine. This is the site plan. We'll go. It doesn't matter. I only have the two slides. The important part of this is the history, unfortunately. And we don't have a lot of slides of that. But, 88,000 cubic yards of sand is 6,000 dump truck loads. Okay. So, that's what was intended. intended they were intending to move out this this was purchased finally by the county in 2017 so it took 13 years for the community to save this it caused an a lot of opposition there were town board meetings where over a hundred people came and spoke there were lots of articles written it was exceedingly sensitive to the community so it was a great a great save eventually so the land trust Peconic Land Trust was very much involved and what happened was as you all know Jules Spett went bankrupt and the next owner was willing to talk about preservation possibilities the land trust approached him they convinced him to put a cover crop on the farmland there's 30 acres of farmland north of this and he agreed to move out and they were very happy about it and they were so brave so brave so brave so brave so brave so brave so brave so brave so brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave brave Now, it's simply a trail that leads up the hill and then loops around and comes back down. We are waiting for the county to approve the sign. We haven't got heard back from them yet. And this is an interesting project because it is county money, but the town has the management contract for it. So the Jamesport Civic Association is heavily invested in this project. We hear from them frequently, and we do want to work with them to make this accessible to people and so people understand the sensitivity around the sign is, of course, how much do you acknowledge the archaeological findings that are there. And the Native American community really needs to approve the wording that is on the sign. So we're very lucky to have it. The name Sharper's Hill, by the way, if you don't know, it's an interesting story. There was a schoolhouse at the bottom of Sharper's Hill, and the schoolmaster there, by the name of Ezekiel Aldrich, wrote a poem calling Sharper's Hill a noble place of ancient form, and he named it Sharper's Hill. We don't know where the name came from, but that's the earliest reference in print. So we're going with it. Sharper's Hill ever since. But the town has gone in, and we have trails. We have been developed there. They're not extensive because we wanted to be sensitive to potential burying grounds for Native Americans. So there are trails, but the county proposed parking be cut into the area, and our committee was not happy with that. So there will not be a parking area there, but there is a sidewalk along the front there, and, you know, be able to walk into there. But we just didn't want the trails to be extensive. And go up into what is potentially that burying ground. Yeah, the indigenous people are very concerned about that. I met with them recently. And they are very concerned, and they're very thankful that it was preserved, because certainly this would have disrupted a burial ground by all means. And I'm not sure it ever would have happened anyway, because once they started unearthing artifacts, I think that would have been the stop to it altogether. But this was the best thing that could have been done. And the way that... I think that would have been the best thing that could have been done. And the way that... The way that the trails are set up, they don't actually go right to the burial grounds, which they're very comfortable about. Yeah, that's right. Because they don't want people going in. It's illegal, people should know, to remove artifacts. But this way it keeps it... You can get an idea of what it was like, but you're not actually right in the middle of what is most sacred. And I should mention, it was really... The town board voted finally for a full environmental impact statement. And this preservation never would have happened if that step had not taken place. So that was an important piece of the story. Yeah, it's a great story. Next slide. So we just wanted to show you, we have the highway department created, made these signs for us. And we have an open space sign marking every one of our properties. One has been removed. We don't know by whom. But Bob is going to secure some extras for us so that we can replace signs that people simply have to have. I don't know why. But we wanted the community at large, and people visiting our community, to see open space and where these existing sites are. And this is what, when you've paid into this fund at your real estate closing, that this is where the money is going. This is what we're doing. People aren't aware of this at all. But now I hope these signs help. We didn't want anything too big or crazy. We just wanted... We wanted to know the signs. As other townships do, the county does. You know, I know on Edwards Avenue, the old Beagle Club. Yes. That has a sign, Suffolk County Park. So, you know, we wanted to join in that, just so people could know. Next slide, please. Pawlonski. That's an interesting purchase. And I think, if you look at this picture, it kind of really illustrates a... Why a piece of property was so important to purchase. You can see the development on the right, which was, you know, encroaching on the kind of open space. Do you know where this is? That's Northwoods on the right. This is the... Off of Depot Middle Road. The old... Just to give you an orientation here, the old landfill is due north of this. Yes. Okay? And on the left, also, you have more residential development, which is encroaching from the west. So... Yeah. This... [transcription gap] This was a beautiful piece of property to protect the relatively rural road that goes through there. Depot Road was actually named after the kettle holes that are all along there. And you got two of them right there. If you can imagine the receding glacier from this area, dumping off blocks of ice that would be buried and form these kettle holes. But this is 41 acres. It was purchased for a price of 3.8 million, which now, looking back, is about $3.8 million. So... So... I... I... I... I... development and that is open meadow and then it wraps around the Kobolinski homestead into the wooded area where you can see the kettle halls I believe there are three or four kettle hall there. Oh there's a magnificent picture coming up with a beautiful kettle hall. Yeah but the idea too is that you know that that was all the Kobolinski property that was sold you know so you did preserve some of it I see that the Kobolinski homestead area there is has been for sale and and it says it's in contract now I don't know but we at least have this portion of meadow and wooded area and the kettle halls. I think the property on the south side of the world is now for sale too. Yes it is it's about 13 acres of it looks like half wooded and half meadow. Okay next slide this is one of the kettle holes on the kettle hole ponds. The kettle hole ponds are the only one that is on the property. Not that scenic but anyway. We talk about this property a lot because there's no public access to it and we do think we do want to spend some time really exploring the property and determining whether it's appropriate to think about investing some funds to make this accessible to put a trail in. Before we go to the next slide I mean this also illustrates the importance of this particular piece of property for groundwater reachable. Which is what provided by the kettle holes which are pretty natural condition actually given the history of how they were formed around. Okay next slide. Okay Mill Pond Preserve which is the Goldman property and what you're looking at is the car repair garage on East Main Street and our access to the property is that driveway. This is a very interesting example because this is a full head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head and will continue to be but it's very important because it's part of the sawmill River watershed the town and county have preserved 60 acres of land on either side of the sawmill River Creek north of this piece of property so it's there is access to this property but we need to work with the owner and figure out how they actually get people in there I think I've read Nancy that this might have been the first sawmill in New York it was the first well I don't know about New York State first in Riverhead yeah 1659 yeah next slide is the North Fork Preserve this is another interesting project the county actually acquired we worked with them to acquire 173 acres and we have a relationship connection to this land 173 acres that border sound Avenue this was originally all farmland from the Tuttle family and then it was the farm that they got out of farming and press wireless do any of you remember press wireless so they put together a consortium of newspapers really led by the county and they put together a consortium of newspapers really led by the New York Times and that building up on North Fork Preserve if you've been up there that's the press wireless building which the hunting club that bought it from press wire house used as a recreation room if the technology of the radio technology about getting the news that overseas went out of out of business when satellites came into use so press wireless got out of the business so that's when it was bought privately to become managed as a hunting club oh they did it tennis courts and used that building as a recreation center then the club that experienced some hard times and they offered it for sale so the county of the town partnered on it we're waiting for a management agreement on the hundred seventy-three acres I was part of Al Krupsky committee to work with people to figure out what they wanted the county presented at that point a plan to build a space for the area to be used to provide space to the area to be used to provide space to the That included a splash pond, a little general store, room for caravans. Everything under the sun was included in that plan. And I think it's very good news that nothing has happened because it is a beautiful piece of property. It's a wonderful place to go cross-country skiing. Bird watching is fantastic. The trails, they've kept the trails minimally mowed. But there are a lot of vernal ponds in there as well. So salamanders and frogs and all kinds of things. But it's an incredibly wonderful piece of property. I'm willing to bet there's one or two pheasants running around up there that made it through the hunt successfully. Because I know they used to release crates of them during hunting season and have hunts up there. But not all of them were always taken. So I'm sure there's quite a few. There's quite a few still running around up there. It is a very beautiful property. George, are those more of those kettle holes? You know, it's kind of interesting. When the wetland inventory was done in 1979, for whatever reason, they missed those wetlands. And they were actually put on the state, the town's map when the subdivision plan was actually being discussed. When it was farmed by the Tuttle's way back when, it was full of it. And it was actually the wetlands that were very important because they were a source of irrigation for the farm crops and also water for the animals. So it became more of a challenge as farming. You farm bigger and bigger pieces and use bigger equipment. So it became untenable. But they're not kettle holes. No, to your question, they're not. But they are wetlands. Yeah, they are. It's really wetlands. Wetlands and ponds. Next slide, please. Okay. Okay. So ADJN is a realty company. This is the name of the company we bought the property from. And this also is on the Sawmill Creek watershed. It's across from BJ's. Across the street from BJ's. If you can kind of imagine what that is. We purchased this in 2004, 30 acres for $300,000. So not a lot of money. Very important to protect the watershed. Now, there's a new project. Another piece of property, 37 acres north of this piece of town property that's zoned commercial is wooded in wetlands. And it is for sale. I think it's where there are a lot of homeless in campus. Yes. But it is certainly a piece of this watershed that we should consider trying to preserve. It is for sale. And this is next to 13 acres of county-owned land. So again, the... If you look at the GIS map, the town and the county have done an incredible job of preserving the land along Sawmill River Creek. Next slide, please. Hubbard Duck Farm. And you probably know more about this than I do. Spent many years playing there as a kid. So this was purchased in 2010. It's 78 acres. The town put in 2.7 million and the county put in 2.7 million. It goes... It goes from south of the railroad tracks and is immediately adjacent on the west side to Indian Island Park. Now I think one of the incredible resources of Riverhead Town is we have the Hubbard Duck Farm. You then have Indian Island Park. And you now have Broad Cove Preserve. That is an unbelievable stretch of preserved land in a very beautiful part of town. And I really think we need to collaborate and get it somehow... Spent a lot of money. Spent a lot of money. Yeah. Spent a lot of money. Yeah. Spent a lot of money. Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. what's the road that goes i can't even think of it from the delhi from the delhi up um overlook overlook no yeah yeah the dirt road oh no no not the dirt oh past broad cove at the end at the corner of broad abroad cove something it goes yeah edgar thank you just slipped out of my mind so there's an opportunity there and an incredibly beautiful stretch of preserved property that we've never thought about in terms of its contiguousness and what what what the possibilities are so i think that's a a great a great a great challenge for us next slide please

um and this is a another view of sawmill creek it's beautifully you know there's a lot of fragmanis that's come in yes but it's an incredibly beautiful um part of of where we live um next slide please well the committee process it's something that you know people would should understand that when we are looking at a property there are a lot of things that we look at in terms of the potential either for purchase of town to encourage the county to purchase it which we do you know actively so the next slide please justin we visit the sites we have a parcel rating form where we rate each parcel based on is it contiguous with other preserved areas what the environmental impact is of preserving this all these different things we also have a stewardship form that we fill out so we're not just going to the property and kind of just making rash decisions or anything like that we we have a very distinct process stewardship we've rated on needs and wants you know for each existing open space site so that's how we do that we make our recommendations in this case now to councilman Kern to go to the town board and present what we're thinking we also work with the county Peconic Land Trust and the city of

We feel that now that our funding is low for making purchases that we need to actively work together on that. So that's our process. I keep asking Southampton and Eastampton to, you know, spend some of theirs over here or spread it over here for us to use. Wouldn't it be nice? They laugh at me every time I do that because they have unlimited funds. I'll plug in the possible purchase of the former Peconic Paddler site. We have reached out as a committee, you know, to Southampton. That would be at least some kind of an agreement between the two towns. But yeah, get some of that CPF money. If the town of Southampton purchased the property of Peconic Paddler, maybe the town of Riverhead would have a management agreement there. So that's kind of, you know, what we're trying to encourage with that. And we all know where that is. It's contiguous to another parkland and right on the water. Yeah, it would be. I think it's kind of like a life support. So maybe... We'll see what happens. It's good for us that that's a possibility. Next slide, please. So our challenges. As this slide shows, which is kind of simple, Peconic Bay Boulevard at the bottom, there's development and there's open space. And let's see. Let's face it. Right now, people are, you know, developing at quite a rate. And that's our biggest challenge is to get these properties before they are developed. So the next slide. Especially the ones that are environmentally sensitive. Sure. Our biggest challenge is lack of CPF funding for new purchases that, you know, we have looked and prioritized. We have prioritized parcels for purchase. And we're ready to go if there's funding on them. So that's the problem. Cost of ongoing stewardship also. You know, we have planting. The example was putting the fence at Weeping Willow. Things like that. You know, we just need to be able to implement them. And it's probably that putting the fence at Weeping Willow was maybe about a two or three year... Oh, my gosh. Yeah. ... abgesụcUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU as Nancy mentioned with the Mill Pond Preserve on East Main Street. Our access way is blocked often by the commercial entity that's adjacent to it. So those are the types of encroachments we're talking about and so that's a challenge for us you know to get that taken care of so the community can use these properties. So the next slide please. And this just is a lovely open space site that we're you know we can show you and our next slide will show our goals. We need to keep going to the existing open space sites for stewardship and maintenance. In other words checking if there's dumping encroachment, what needs to be done, do we need to put benches in or kiosk at the Sound Avenue Preserve that kind of thing. We need the more accessibility. Nancy mentioned trails you know that would be nice for people to be able to walk through these areas. Keeping up with our being involved with the county. We need to make more of a connection there so we can contact them easily and maybe propose these places to be purchased. We also need to work with other partners. So we're working with the county and the county land trust. The state would like to step in in certain areas you know and purchase so that's all open. So the next slide. This is our biggest goal. We need to preserve as much open space as possible. You know we're in that position now where we've got some beautiful vistas and beautiful areas that have been preserved but there's more that we can do and you know we're always open to suggestions. That's Indian Island right? And I think that's a great point. I think that's a great point. I think that's a great point. [transcription gap] That's Indian Island. This is, no I believe, I think it's Cases Creek. Cases Creek? Maybe it is. Yeah. Yeah. Our other committee members, Charles Cetus and Marge Acevedo are not here today. Charles has an encyclopedic knowledge of every property in the town of Riverhead. So he's usually the one that's going to be the one to talk to. So he's usually the one we lean on. What is this? And he said that's what, by of course that's what it is. But this is our biggest goal and how we accomplish this, you know, without the funding is a big question. So we thank you for your time today. That's our last slide showing you our biggest goal. We thank you for all the work that you've done over the years. This is, I know it's an uphill battle every time you find a piece and it's like let's get some money. Can we get some money? Can we, you know, develop it? You know, develop it a little bit with some trails and put some gravel down. I know it's hard all the time and with the economy and the building boom back in the 80s was great. There was money coming in all the time, you know, and that's why we preserve so much land. But it's a struggle but we appreciate you hanging in there and the work that you do is phenomenal. Those pieces of property that you preserved are some of the most beautiful parts. Broad Cove Duck Farm is my favorite. Yeah. It's the best desert of all. You can imagine condominiums built there. Oh yeah. Yeah, there were all kinds of plans for stuff to go in there and that's an absolutely gorgeous piece of property. A lot of ticks on it but it's a gorgeous piece of property. Ticks are a specialty. They can't care less. That's why we need the trails. Right, exactly, exactly. But yeah, we, you know, we have, you know, stewardship plans going forward so that's our main thing right now. Well, we appreciate your desire to do this. This is a volunteer committee. This isn't, you know, you don't get paid the big bucks to sit and do this but we certainly appreciate your time. Thank you. And everything that you do. Thanks. Kudos to Nancy for putting this all together, this presentation. Nancy's our PowerPoint genius. Excellent. Well, very nice job. Thank you very much. Thank you. Okay, we're going to go a little bit out of order right now. Yeah. We're going to take matters surrounding the site plan approval for Island Water Park with Greg Bergman. Good morning, sir. Good morning, everybody. Good morning. Good morning. All right. So there's two resolutions in the packet for the town board meeting next week. One of them is the responses to the condition negative declaration which we went over at work session last week. That was pretty straightforward. And there is a resolution to that. And there is a resolution for preliminary approval of the Island Water Park site plan. I just want to go through, you know, there's a recitation of the project history, comments received from all departments and town agencies. So getting to the conditions of the preliminary approval. The applicant now, so the applicant did get, they have an approved health department approval that has an approval for I believe it's 10,615 gallons per day of sanitation. Density flow. [transcription gap] So there are conditions in there. The applicant must obtain a freshwater wetlands jurisdictional determination from the New York State DEC. They did make that application to the DEC, I believe it was submitted on April 3rd. The applicant must fully reclaim the mine under the DEC permit and provide certification to the town that the mine has been closed out. The applicant will satisfy the Chief Fire Marshal's comments. The site plan shall be amended to include a barrier around the outside of the track to control stormwater management and erosion into the lake. That was a requirement from the town engineer's memo. The applicant must resolve any outstanding violations with the DEC relative to site improvements which were made without benefit of the permit. And then the applicant needs to file a covenant on the property in a form approved by the town attorney's office restricting the use of the track to go-carts and that the use of the track for any other type of vehicle shall be prohibited. That was one of the conditions in the condition and the declaration that we adopted. Pretty straightforward conditions. I think they're reasonable. It gets the applicant to use the interior space pending all those inspections. And we'll need to satisfy really with the DEC those are the biggest conditions. So the only question I really have for you, I think most of the conditions are fair. The reclamation, I know the applicant is here, even if the applicant would like to come forward as well. But my question is that the length of a process for essentially for the grass to grow on the sloping areas of the lake itself. I just know that it's going to take a substantial period of time. I know that their first attempt go around they planted stuff and I think they had a major washout. And so they started round two and planting. I think they've made progress and made progress in getting things planted and I think they've succeeded. But from what I understand it still could take you know potentially a year, year and a half for that grass to grow and to really to be strong. And I just I don't want to see a local business just being you know held on hold for the next year and a half waiting. Literally for grass to grow along the bank. Part of the DEC so you know is you do a planting. The seedlings have to come in. We've done two plantings this year. We've done over seven over the past five years. We're at about 65% coverage right now. But you have to have the seedlings and then they have to survive for six months. And then they'll issue beyond that. When you do that math it puts us at probably a year and a half. It's really tough and that's not best case but that's probably about where it is. Definitely won't be before a year. We'll end up losing a lot of grass. We'll end up losing a lot of those two seedlings. So my only concern with that obviously we're all aware of the history. The DEC was out there. There were issued violations. The DEC specifically mentioned the go-kart track and the recreational use of the lake. You know the people swimming in the lake and using that the inflatable obstacle course. I just have trouble reconciling the fact that sort of approving the track and the use of that lake without any sort of clear resolution from the DEC. Now I mean if the DEC, suppose the applicant works with the DEC. If we get something from the DEC indicating that they're okay with the use of the lake and the go-kart track I would have no problem addressing that in a final approval. But until we have something concrete from the DEC stating that they're okay with those uses in that site I just don't see how we can sort of approve a site plan without any of those conditions being addressed. They have been put into the DEC. The requests have been made. So the applicant, so the freshwater wetlands jurisdictional application was made to the DEC and I know the applicant's been working with the DEC to address the violations and the tickets that were issued relative to the go-kart track and the pickleball course. Last correspondence I had from the DEC is that those were to be handled, they were going to adjudicate them administratively but I have not received any type of resolution or indication that they've sort of wrapped that piece up. Oh good. That's good. So yeah. So I know they're working with the DEC on the reclamation and the violations and my position is that I just don't see how we can approve something that we know is at odds with the DEC's permitting on the property that they've issued violations for. Again, if we get something from the DEC indicating that those have been cleared and they're okay with those uses I would have no issue addressing them in a final approval. Again, this is just a preliminary approval. Right. This is not the final. This is just a preliminary approval. If I had a request that was submitted from the DEC I would have no issue addressing that. Obviously I'd work with the town attorney's office to draft something that is more comfortable with. So to be clear, this is a preliminary approval for them to continue on. Correct. Preliminary approval. However, it would authorize, because the interior, the catering space really sort of got lumped into this site plan when the initial violations were issued back in 2024. There was nothing in that, the conversion of the use of that interior space that would have triggered any sort of violation. They had the parking area already, but there's really a change of use that for better or worse got kind of bundled in with this site plan application. But again, the conversion of that space as long as it passes building inspections and fire marshal inspections that it's safe for human occupancy and they've addressed any type of safety issues, comfortable with addressing that with the preliminary approval so they could begin using that space. But it's really the use of the trailer space. It's really the use of the track, pickleball courts and the recreation that I think we need to get something for the DEC on. So I have a question. So what about the pickleball court? Does the DEC have a problem with the pickleball court? Are we approving that? I'd have to double check. I mean I believe it was for all the structures that were constructed within the limits of the mine. I'm not 100% sure whether that includes the pickleball track and the go cart. Pickleball court. Okay. I'd have to confirm whether that was part of that. So I have a question. So our engineering department required a buffer around the track. Basically, you know, we had received pictures. They were forwarded to the town attorney's office demonstrating runoff from the track that was demonstrating clear erosion to the lake. I mean this is something that can be addressed by like an asphalt berm around the edge of the track. That's not a significant... So that protects the lake from any, you know, from runoff. Correct. Yeah, that asphalt will protect erosion. So the track will direct... would direct it, you know, retain it on the track and direct it towards the swales that are within the track. Got you. Okay. Thanks. So do we request like just a simple update from the DEC as long as they know that the planting, everything has been in progress and is in progress? I just don't want to say that... I'd hate to hold them up and keep the outside portion closed, you know, while we're simply waiting for grass to grow on the banks, which obviously just naturally is going to take its time. And I know they do... they have made some valiant efforts to do that. So I did... I did put a call in to represent a contact that I have at the DEC just requesting an update. I mean, again, the satisfaction of those issues with the DEC really rests solely on the applicant. We don't really have any control over that. You know, as long as the applicant keeps working on that, the DEC I'm sure once they come to some type of resolution will provide something to the applicant and they can provide that to us. But, you know, we have no... no authority over how the DEC is handling those violations. Or that mining project. Thank you. Okay. You have questions? I just would have thought this would have come up in the CEQA as opposed to... it wasn't in their comment letter. You know, if they had an issue, why didn't they say it during the CEQA process? Do you... do me a favor, don't... let's wait until we've resolved these issues. I know we're far along in the process with them. And in the CEQA review, they mentioned the things that the engineering was worried about. They're worried about a little bit of runoff in the lake. And they were also worried about... I'm sorry, what was the other... what was the... oh, the wetlands. Those were the two things that they mentioned. And then they said be careful with spillage and notify us if it happens. It just seems odd to me that this is now, at the 11th hour, something that... a hurdle that we have to overcome. That's a year and a half. That's... that would be my only comment. I mean, the DEC's letter, when we went through the CEQA coordination process, they led off with the comment. We advise this agency does not accept or process applications for existing structures. And we do not issue after-the-fact permits for existing structures located within regulated areas. Structures built within a regulated area without benefit of a DEC permit is either a violation of environmental conservation law or it does not require a permit. Permits must be obtained prior to any work. So, I mean, that was, you know... They had... they, like, right off... right off the bat... you know, the violations were not... they're not... this is not a secret. This is not something that's come up at the last minute. I mean, the applicant's been aware of these violations. And they've... again, I've requested sort of follow-ups. They've been aware of these violations. These are not, you know, last-minute conditions. I mean, if the DEC is not going to authorize the use of that lake, then, you know, what are we even talking about? Right.

But have they actually, has the DEC at any point said you can't use the lake or they would stop the lake? It's my understanding that they... when the initial violations were issued, rather, they were told to stop the lake. Using that lake. It's my understanding of the... the actions by the DEC. Have you been told to stop using the lake? Yeah. We were told last year. We're in the process of working an agreement out with them. But, again, previously, and Greg knows this, they told us that site plan approval should have nothing to do with the mine and lake area. So that's why I think it's just a little odd that we're crossing this road. Greg knows that, right? I mean, again... But we've got... so you acknowledge that the DEC said to stop using the lake. Right. But they're capable. I think, like, if we get your approval, we wait and then we get their approval. It's just... it's adding so much more red tape where they're more than capable of handling themselves as far as fines and penalties. We've experienced the sharp end of that stick. So I don't know why we're doubling down. That's just the way it seems to me. And I apologize. I'm a little under the weather. So much so. But... Can we separate the go-kart track, the pickable courts, from the actual lake? Like, can't we... if there's no water and they've addressed any of the drainage, then why would we hold back allowing them to use the go-kart tracks? I understand the lake might be... you might need something from the DEC vote. Why not be able to move ahead with the go-kart track? How does that work? But the track itself was also part of the violations that were issued because the track was constructed within the limits of the mine. But then, I mean, it's all part and parcel. You can't... They were issued violations for those improvements that are within the life of the mine. So it's not just the use of the lake. It's not just the track. It's the fact that they're reclaiming the mine and these improvements were done within the limits of the mine. I mean, I just... I don't see how the town board can approve an application and a use that is in violation of the DEC program. If the applicant is working with the DEC, which they've stated many times that they are, if we get something from the DEC that they've cleared the violations and... if they need an amendment to their mine land reclamation permit, I think the board just needs something to be comfortable with and protect themselves saying that, you know, you're not authorizing or approving something that's in violation of the DEC permit requirement. I'm just a little bit confused if... I mean, our engineering department... This goes to the go-kart track. I mean, the pickleball thing to me... I don't even know why we're not approving that, but... But the go-kart track, if our engineers... I mean, they wanted a buffer. They wanted a buffer around the track, clearly, to protect any runoff going into the lake. And they did that probably, I'm going to guess, knowing that the DEC would require that. We, you know, the town required that. So I'm confused a little bit on if we do the buffer, why can't they open the track? Because the track is in violation of the New York State DEC mining program. Buffer or not... Burn or not... I mean, again, you just... I think what the board has before them is a fair resolution. And again, we're not trying to stop anybody. I'm not trying to put anybody out of business. I'm reviewing an application, considering all the factors. This track was built without benefit of any permits from site... I'm not trying to beat the dead horse, but this was done without any approvals. If this was done in a proper fashion, some of these issues could have probably been addressed. Rather than, you know, kind of like trying to wriggle around and, you know, sort of address it at the 11th hour. I mean, again, I don't think there's anything unreasonable in this resolution. I think the town board... I don't feel that the town board can approve something that we know is in violation of the existing DEC mining permit. And until that fact is addressed, I just... I don't see how we can, like, in good conscience, move forward and just say, you're good to use the track even though we know it's in violation. Ken, do you have any kind of timeline? Do you have any kind of timeline from the DEC and when you're working with them? It's tough. You know, we are working with them, but it's really tough. They move slow. They're famously slow. Anyone will tell you that. And we know that. So, I don't know. You know, we're doing everything we can. We've done massive rounds of planting. The seedlings are in. You know, unfortunately, it took... We had Ricky Galea out there five, six years. I mean, we really, really tried. So, it's a tough... I think it's the, um, the consistence on, you know, and also some of the... temperature changes going from warm, hot to cold, hot to cold. So, we've experienced some die-off, but thankfully, it's moving along in a better direction now. But the timing of the DEC is, like, the speed of slaw. It's really tough. Yeah, we're experiencing that with the Navy. Yeah. And that's how we get it. I mean, the resolution... I don't know if you'd like the town attorney to weigh in, but I did review the resolution with the town attorney's office. You know, it satisfies the... site plan, you know, from a planning standpoint, it's appropriate. From a legal standpoint, I didn't get any feedback that it was inappropriate or the conditions were not proper for a preliminary approval resolution. I mean, I just... I don't want to be distinct to death, but I don't see how the board can again approve something that we know is in violation of the DEC. That said, if we can get... if we get something... Even preliminary? Prelimina... I mean, the preliminary resolution is not binding. Preliminary approval is not binding. Again, there's still several conditions that need to be met. But if the applicant can work with the DEC and address those issues with them, I would have no problem addressing that in a final approval. If the DEC is okay with that, recite that in a final approval resolution, and then they'd be off to the races. But I don't see how we can give a final binding approval on anything that we know is in violation. Yeah. How about the pickleball court? What's that doing? What? Like, what's that? Well, is the pickleball court also in the reclamation area? I can get clarification. Again, I do have a call in to the DEC. I can get clarification and seek whether or not that pickleball court is within the limit of the mine. But we know that the go-kart track is. Okay. And I think maybe even just a request to the DEC that if they're waiting to use the pond and they're literally waiting for grass to grow, can they segregate out the go-kart track? Or something to at least let them use those facilities? You know, it's, I understand they've, you know, they've paid all their violation. They've paid all their fines. We're coming into the summer month. I'm no longer looking to financially, you know, hurt them and their business operations. So as they get into summer camps and school's out, you know, I think, you know, to hold them back from opening, to wait for the grass to grow, I think would be an unfair. Okay. Request. So if we can maybe then write to the DEC or get a letter of some kind of confirmation to just kind of separate out which items are which. I would be more comfortable having something back from the DEC. I agree. Can you put them on the burner and see if you can get something from them? Yeah, I'll reach out. Okay. Thank you. And you've reached out as well, right? So, okay. Thank you. Let's do this. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it.

All right. Next up, we have matters surrounding the monthly code enforcement report. It'll be Town Attorney Howard. Good morning. Rich is out sick today, so I'm covering this. Okay. So everybody has the report? Yeah. Okay. So not a tremendous amount of flashy stuff on here. I have 75 new investigations open during the month of April. Notably, the property maintenance violations will start ticking up with the warmer weather and the rain. You'll start getting those high grass weeds type of things. Had 15 no building permit violations issued. I think on a good note, there's no investigations open for unsafe buildings. In terms of tickets and violations issued, about 75 new tickets or NOVs issued to property owners. No new referrals to Supreme Court. Okay. So, I think that's it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you so much. [transcription gap] 25 apartment units. During the month of April, about 52,000 brought in in rental fees, and that brings total revenue through the end of April to about 147,000 in rental fees. How many people short are we in code right now in terms of officers? Right now we've lost Kai DeRosa, who was one of our code enforcement officers, so we have one vacancy. Are we interviewing? I will be asking personnel to post that soon.

Is there like a pace towards overall inspections for the year? I know there's just... It's a massive amount of work, but do they try to pace themselves throughout the year? Are they on track for visiting every single apartment over the course of a year? Well, so the rental permits renew annually now, so some months you're going to have more than others, but they do, with the apartment units, they do go into each unit. So usually you'll have code enforcement officers sort of block out like a two or three day. So you're not going to have to go into every block to go into John Wesley or the Conner Crossings or River Point. Yeah. You know, and sometimes you get slowed down with that because sometimes, you know, the tenants don't necessarily want to let you in or you have to reschedule. So, you know, sometimes those sort of drag out a little bit, but I think, you know, on balance they get most of them done. It's a big task. It is a big task. There's a lot to do. Yeah, I mean, I would say... A lot of rental properties. I would say, you know, one of the issues with having the vacancy in the code enforcement officer position is it's unfortunately a relatively low paid position under our current labor contract. And I've been trying to brainstorm ways to make that a more attractive position because right now there's no town list. Kyle DeRosa was the number one on the town. And now he's gone to Southampton. So that leaves us in the position of sort of hiring from out of town. Anytime you're hiring out of town, especially if it's coming from west, you know, that's a cost to them for commuting. It also makes it more likely that if they get canvassed, they might choose to go to a municipality that's closer to home for them. So I'm hoping that, you know, in the next, maybe Rich has been out, but in the next couple of weeks or so, we might speak with our code. Liaison about a potential plan to help with retention. Good. It's important. It is, you know, because a lot goes into training a new officer. They, you know, we pay for the code classes. It's also time invested by a senior investigator, Downs, town investigator Buckner, you know, learning our systems, learning the IPS program. And I mean, with Kyle DeRosa as an example, he was here for just about a year. And he was fully trained. He's an excellent officer and swept up by Southland. So. All right. Thank you, sir. No, that's great. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Next up, we have the monthly town clerk report. Clerk Luton. You're the best. Yeah. But you're not last. Oh, yeah. In that case, go back. Sit down. It's been a pretty busy month at the town clerk. Mostly FOIA requests, but with the new enhanced licensing with New York State DMVs and everybody has to come and get copies of their marriage records. Yeah. To prove why their name was changed and birth records. And we have been, people have been panicking over that enhanced license. So we've been really busy with that. It's only been around for how many years, right? It's true. I don't have one quite yet. But I'll get one when I renew my license. Right now, passports are still good to everybody for flying. That's right. So they know that. But other than that, it's really FOIA requests are the big ones. Marriage licenses as well as marriage certificates for the enhanced licenses are the big drain on us. And that's about what fishing licenses are coming in. I mean, it's just a pretty busy office. There's always something going on. But there's nothing there. And then any downtime is trying to catch up on stuff that you have to catch up on. With the master plan and all the local laws coming in, that's all a moving target for us. And then of course we're training everyday. We're working on trying to get resolutions into the new software program and how that works. We've got a meeting tomorrow with some key members of staff to just start familiarizing ourselves with it. We'd like to launch it. First meeting in June. Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. It may or may not happen, but it's going to be right around that time. That's the time we're shooting for. But other than that, it's going very well. Jim, with Civic Plus, is that going to help us with FOIL requests? Well, that's next request is a component of that. Yes, it should help to streamline that. Why we haven't kicked that off yet, I don't know. I think it's ready to go, so I'll check with Jim on that. Next request is part of that. I think really most of it ties into the website, which is also going to be Civic Plus. I think all of it is just going to marry together very nicely. Yeah, I'm just wondering if we could put that next request piece in now and then marry it to the website. We do have the next request in now. Oh, you do? Yeah. I mean, it's been downloaded in, but when we're operating that, I have to find out why that works. Because, yeah, I'd be curious on how that, you know, the efficiency of that. They still come in. It boggles my mind. But, yeah. I didn't realize how many foils come in. Oh, it's that time of year. That time of, you know. Well, a lot of us, you know, a lot of realtors have done that. Well, that's why we're trying to get building and planning on, you know, to get them live so that when you pay a subscription like Southampton, you do it in Southampton, right? And they can access that information without going through the clerk's office. Yeah. Well, we're just a conduit for that. It's just a morning routine. I know, but it would take a lot of people. You know, when they come in and do it. And we're also looking at, I just, I'm looking at the chip to, and with Dime Bank to see if we can streamline some of the application requests coming into our office. We get a lot of requests from out of state for birth certificates and for marriage certificates. And a lot of times where I fill out the application online, send a copy of your ID, valid address, you know, a bill or something. It shows that it's the right address that you live at and a $10 money order and they mail it. Now granted, we answer our mail every day. We get it in now, five minutes later, you're getting what you asked for. We don't hold mail. But I want to streamline that where they can make the application, make the payment online, and then we just . So we're looking at logistics on that. I know we're starting to do that in the fax receiver office. I met with representatives of the bank last week or two weeks ago. Yeah, they're good. So I'm going to put that online. I think that'll streamline a lot. That's it. Great. Thank you, sir. And we got our birdbath in, which is nice out front. Oh, is it up? I know they were working on it this morning. Yeah, it's beautiful. I got to get Joe here and have a little rededication for that birdbath. It's beautiful. Very good. Excellent. Thanks for handling that. You guys are the best. Thanks, Jim. Okay, next up we have matters surrounding the monthly job. Justice Court report with Counselor Apilow.

Good morning. Does anyone need a copy? All right, so last month was pretty straightforward. I did have one trial resulted in a 15-day jail sentence. Congratulations. Thank you. And then next week I have a trial on Monday for public urination and two trials for front-end parking on Tuesday. And a few more loaded up for the rest of next month. Other than that, kind of your standard fines that we've been getting floating around that $20,000 to $30,000 a month range. A lot of default judgments in fire marshals. And we'll see in the months to come now that that misdemeanor is out. That one misdemeanor in the fire marshal section is now a violation. You'll see a lot more reflection of those pleas in that section. So that is what I have for the month of April. Great job. Thank you. Excellent. And I'll stay seated. You will stay seated because you're up next. All right. So we'll move on to matters surrounding possible code revision to Chapter 105, bus liability. Everyone have a packet? Yes. A bunch of extra. I'll leave it up here. Okay. So in 2019, New York State passed a program where motorists who passed stop school buses, when the stop arm was out, they would receive an automated computerized ticket along with a video of their effects. The courts were hearing these up until 2023. There was a case that came through, State of New York v. Croce. That put it on pause until the law was redrafted to kind of close up some loopholes. And I'll get to more of that later on or when it goes to public hearing. So it was easy for the program to start back up on the five west end towns because the five west end towns has a TVPA, which is Traffic Violations Parking Administration. Now, the five east end towns, we rely on our local courts to handle those. So it makes it a little bit more complicated. It's complicated because these are civil violations. You're either liable or you're not liable. It's not guilty, not guilty. So the judges feel a little bit uncomfortable, and I agree with why they would feel uncomfortable with that, because the civil matters, it's either you're liable or you're not liable. Their judicial oath allows them to make a determination, and they're supposed to have some level of discretion. Like even, you know. Even in county court when someone gets sentenced for a homicide, it's 25 to life, the judge has discretion to determine the sentence. Here, liable, not liable. You can't reduce it. Exactly. So that's really an administrative function and not what our town judges have taken an oath to do. Same thing in the other east end towns. They're all moving toward creating this particular code, and their judges are signing off on removing just the bus lane. All the other VTLs will still remain in the justice court because those are considered criminal violations, and they're in the realm of where the judge can, you know, have them do defensive driving to lower it, things like that. This specific law is, there's really, there's no wiggle room. So it really should be in front of an ALJ. So the code outlines everything that it would require for us to remove them from justice court. And to have an ALJ appointed and to handle these matters. Now the fines for these go to who? This is complicated. So first offense, I believe it's 250. First, when that money is paid, it goes to the county. The county gets the first 90%, and then I believe 45% is parsed out from that and goes to the town. And then some of it goes, I may be getting the percentages wrong, but it goes to the county first and then it's kind of funneled out to whoever's handling it. So the money that would come in, would it cover the cost of an ALJ? It would, but it can't be directly paid to the ALJ because that kind of gets in the way of impartiality. So if a for-profit company is directly paying the ALJ, then you can't really expect that ALJ to be fair and impartial. So I'll speak more to how we would handle payment of that individual and who that person would be. You know, when we get more into it, closer to a public hearing. So that's where we're at. Just so everybody understands, judges can't take testimony like the way an administrative justice can. They can't bring someone to the stand and ask questions. An administrative judge can't. Exactly. So that's why this in particular is inappropriate in front of a justice court. An administrative law judge can't issue a warrant. So if they don't pay the fine, what's our recourse? It'll be like a collections or, you know, the same way if you don't pay a parking ticket, it would result in collections because, again, these are civil matters. You can't get a warrant for a civil matter. And the DMV can't take action against your license for these. Who comes up with the $250 fine? I believe it was through the county in conjunction with the bus-on program. So we kind of have to go by what? They determine the fine is. Last I checked, I believe it's still what it is is $250 for the first offense and $275 and $300. Geez. You're risking kids' lives and this is the fine? No, I agree. I agree. I'm sure as time goes on it'll increase. So when was the last time that it was increased? I think that was 2022, so I'm not sure if it's changed since then. Nothing that I've seen. Do you know about how much we would be losing in revenue by doing this? Yes. So what do you mean, to adjudicate them? Well, yes. So the vendor that started this program pays for the administration, the notice, all of those things. So the only cost that I need to figure out would be the cost of having someone preside over these, which I imagine could eventually come from the revenue, but it can't be directly from this company. Right. How many of these do we get in the town of Riverhead? I would say since it started back up after that case went through the appeals, I would say maybe we have 50 in limbo right now. Well, 50 people run the bus, that's it. Oh, yeah. I mean... Allegedly. Yeah. Well, they're on video. Right. But there are some where you have to really determine. You know, exactly when the arm comes out and if the car made an attempt to stop or not. I've seen many of the videos when I've been in court on other matters when these were going in court, and it is kind of scary to see some of them. I'll just leave it at that. That's why the fines should be higher. I agree. But we have no control over that. I don't think so. I'll double check. Double check. We don't. Eric's saying no. Eric's saying no. So no. Eric's saying no. All right. So that's... This is the draft that we're going to have. It's very similar to the other East End towns that have implemented it. So we're just, you know, we're catching up and we're making sure we have something in place so that we can start, you know, this program back up. The judges and the Justice Court are still, you know, are comfortable and they're not, you know, feeling like they're violating their oath or anything like that. And there's no way to add this to their oath of office? Well, their oath is to have discretion and... Okay. And this robs them of that. So I don't think... I don't know how... All right. You know. Just a legal question I figured I'd ask a legal person. So are you saying that this needs to go to public hearing? Yeah, I think so because it's essentially creating a new section of our town code. Yeah. Well, thank you very much for coming. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Victoria. Yep. Thank you. Okay. Last matter for open session prior to the resolutions is matters surrounding possible code revision chapter 301-283.20 and 301-283.25, location and number of permitted retail and on-site consumption establishments for cannabis. And that's with Matt Charters. Good morning, everybody. Good morning. All right. So in brief, we have been working on this for a little bit in code revision. It has made its way through. The first thing this revision does is correct the permitted zoning use districts. So to my understanding, it's always been the intent of the town to include business CR, which is largely in Wading River, as a permitted zoning use district for cannabis. Just so everyone knows, the rationale was anywhere that retail is allowed, that's where these uses were allowed subject to all the restrictions. It seems like business CR was left out for whatever reason. It might have just been a scrivener's error. So we're adding that zoning use district. We're adding that zoning use district in, but still subject to all the provisions that are in the code. So if one was to locate in corridor one, which is Wading River, we could only have one. But they're subject to all the restrictions, so it's still difficult to do, but it's extremely limited. The second thing this does is codifies on our end the process for applying for a retail or on-site consumption establishment, which this is the process we follow now. This is what the state guideline is. This is just putting it into our code so when someone comes in, they know exactly what they have to do. So the first step in the process, if you guys aren't aware now, we get what's called a notice to municipality. That's the applicant saying, hey, I have a license that has to be filed in the office of the town clerk. That's a requirement of the cannabis law. So we get those. It gets distributed to planning. I respond on behalf of the planning department, on behalf of the town board, saying yay or nay. It fits the requirement or it doesn't. That gets emailed to the town board. That gets emailed to OCM as our opinion on the application. So that's what you see in C. That's a new section. And it's also going to put a timeframe on those positive responses. So say someone comes in, so we're not necessarily having this issue now, but they could get a response from the town, and then they don't do anything. They essentially sit on a location or whatever. So now it's going to have a 90-day timeframe, that we'll track, that the letter is good and that once that 90 days elapse, they'll have to reapply. Now when they reapply, they go... Same thing all over again. But if some... How does it work? Like if one person applies for a specific location, they get approved. Somebody else applies for a location right next door, they're denied because it's within 2,000 feet. When they reapply, are they at the top of the list or are they... How does the timing going to be figured out? So my opinion was... Yeah. My opinion is... So the first person applies, they get approved. They have 90 days to submit a land use application, either building permit, special permit, site plan, whatever application they need. Then if they never do that, they're on the 90-day timeframe that it elapsed, then the next person, I guess someone else could apply in that corridor. But the second person, no matter what, if we have responded positively to someone, the second person would get denied because they don't meet the requirements. They would have to reapply too once the other person applies. So how will we do that? How will somebody... If somebody... Let's play... Yeah. We're the second person. We've been denied because it's 1,000 feet from another pre-approved location. Okay. That pre-approved location never opens up, doesn't do anything. Time expires, they're out. How does the other applicant even know that... I think they'd be working with the state to look at a location anyway because that's what happens before they come to us and that they would, like anyone else, they'd have to call the town, see what's in, see what's not in, and then they would have to call the town to see what's in. So that's what we're doing. [transcription gap] We're doing... Do we comprise like a list or something with expiration dates on them so people can look in and check back... I could, but... ...what's next... ...let's just... [transcription gap] ...let's just... [transcription gap] It's so limited, and we have an internal list that we work off of that's constantly evolving that I'm going to be working with Anna from our GIS department to really update and get the map much better than it is now. So Anna, if you're listening, we have a little work to do. But I think it would be too difficult. It's very easy for someone to call, and then, you know, in planning, we're tracking all of them. We know where they are, where they aren't. We have two that are operational now. We have two in Hopper, essentially. It's easy just for us to say yes or no. Common sense would say don't go out and buy a piece of property because you want to think you want to put a cannabis establishment on it. Investigate, do the law, work the law, do your due diligence, and anybody, it's just a foolish move if you buy something hoping you're going to get it. It's a buyer beware situation, unfortunately. Right, 100%. And then the last section you see is just the statutory authority that the state gave municipalities to enact this law, establish time, place, and manner. So that's really it. Looking to get it in for publish and post next week if the board is okay, and then public hearing in June. Sounds good to me.

You know, let's say somebody comes in and they have their, you know, they put it in for this property, and then somebody comes in and puts it 1,000 feet away. Do you notify this person? Everyone who submits one gets a response from the town. Saying that there's one 1,000 feet away. So, yeah, you'll get a response that says, oh, you don't meet the distance requirement from whatever it is, either another establishment or one of our things. And so you'll say from another establishment. Yep, yep. And our response, just so you know the way it works, our response goes to the state. I often will provide it to the person who's applying also. So you've given them notice. They get notified why it's getting denied. There's another cannabis operation within 1,000 feet. Yeah, whatever. That puts them, they can call you and say, when did they? Give it. That was 89 days ago. Yeah. Okay, they did 20 minutes before you called. Right. Yeah. Sometimes that's how it happens. Yeah, exactly. Our timelines all start from when we get the official notice. Right. That's the only way to do it. Does it get time stamped? Yeah. It gets time stamped by the clerk and then the clerk, Jim, sends it out to everybody. And then we respond. We have 30 days to respond and then we can ask for an additional 30 days if we need to. Good. I just don't see it here, but we had a discussion about the areas of the state. Okay. So, the area of the state is downtown when there's just never going to be a cannabis shop. Correct. Because there's no locations and people were continuously applying in different locations. Yeah. So, are we addressing that or just? The recommendation in speaking with the town attorney's office is to, we're going to leave our code the way it is, only because in the future, something can change in zoning that would maybe allow these uses to happen. We don't want to necessarily be too restrictive, but there's enough overlap with things that would prevent it that the likelihood that it could go downtown is very, very slim. And typically, just where is the majority of this business CR district? So, say, Guayne River or Sid? Guayne River, it's on 25th. Is that East Wind or what is that? East Wind is business CR. The shopping center is business CR. But we have to remember, there's churches there. There's a school across the street. So, it's... And a lot of traffic already. Yeah. So, it's really daycares, all that thing is... And then, if one could locate on a component parcel in corridors one, two, four, and five, there's only one establishment, either on-site consumption or a dispensary. So, there will not be some overwhelming number in those four corridors. Corridor three, which is Route 58, allows them every 2,500 people, which we have. So, we're not going to have to go through that. Okay. 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I think we would still have the distance requirement between... So we still have to keep the saturation as a separate clause, right? Yeah, I would say yes. But I would want to consult with our attorneys first. Got it. Alright, thanks. Cool. Thank you Matthew. Thank you. Appreciate it. No problem. Okay, that concludes our open session. Now we're going to move on to resolutions. Deputy Supervisor Higgins, come on up and read the resolutions. Okay, so if the board's ready, we'll get right into it. Resolution number one, Water District Capital Project 825-2. Okay. Resolution number two, 12507, Budget Adoption for Well 4-1 Capacity Increase. Resolution number two, authorizes the supervisor to execute agreement with Todd O'Connell, Architect PC for Ambulance District Building Renovations. We're moving right along with the process up there? Yep. Good to see you. Now resolution number three allows us to pay for that Architect Capital Project number 12506, Ambulance District New Building Capital Reserve Fund Balance Transfer. Number four, authorizes Highway Superintendent Expenditures 2025-2026. Number five, sets hours for town beaches. Number six, sets hours for town beach parking lots. Just to be clear on this, the first one you read sets hours for town beaches. The hours are from 11 a.m. to 6 p.m. Those are the hours that lifeguards are on duty at the town beaches, town beaches. Right, just so the public is clear and also understands that. That the bathrooms would be available at that time as well. Yes. And the other one, the beaches, the parking lots are actually open from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. But lifeguards will only be there from 11 a.m. to 6 p.m. Right. Number seven, ratifies the salary increase for a senior office assistant. Number eight, ratifies the appointment of a water treatment plant operator to be. Number nine, ratifies the provisional appointment of an employee to wastewater treatment plant operator 4A. And number ten, sets terms and conditions of employment for deputy sewer district superintendent. That's for Tim Allen. Number 11, reappoints a provisional senior wastewater treatment plant operator 2. Number 12, appoints a seasonal water treatment plant operator 2B. Number 13, appoints a fire marshal 1. Number 14 and number 15, appoints a maintenance mechanic 2. Number 16, appoints member to the town of Riverhead Hispanic Development Empowerment and Education Committee. Number 17, ratifies the resignation of an automotive equipment operator. Number 18, accepts the retirement of a maintenance mechanic 2B. Number 19, accepts the retirement of a maintenance mechanic 3. Number 19, accepts the retirement of a maintenance mechanic 4. Both these people, Christopher Schroer and Ziggy Ragupka, long time employees of the town, great workers. We wish them nothing but the best on their retirement. We appreciate their years of service to the town. He said to see them go. They're both very good workers. Thank you. Absolutely. Best of luck to them in their retirement. Number 20, extends the bid for electric motor repair and replacement, including emergencies. Number 21, authorizes the town clerk to publish and post notice to bidders for 2025 annual construction contract. Number 22, authorizes the town clerk to publish and post notice to bidders for removal and disposal of sludge cake and grit screen waste. Number 23, authorizes the town clerk to publish and post notice to bidders for 2025 annual construction contract. Number 25, authorize the town clerk to publish and post notice to bidders for 25. 25. [transcription gap] July 18th and August 1st, 2025. All right. Number 27, amends resolution 934-2024 for Racetrack Knott Street, 2025 Fall Motorsports Racing Series at Epcot. Number 28, amends resolution 935-2024 Racetrack Knott Street, 2025 Summer Motorsports Racing Series at Epcot. Number 29, amends resolution 969-2024 East End Arts Mosaic Festival, addition to location of event. Number 30, authorizes designated alcohol service vendors to serve alcohol at the Mosaic Community Street Painting Festival. Number 31, adopts a local law to amend Chapter 231 of the Riverhead Town Code titled Fire Prevention Section 7 thereof, titled Definitions. 32, adopts local law to amend Chapter 231 of the Riverhead Town Code titled Fire Prevention Section 24 thereof, titled Interference with Fire Department Fire Marshal or CEO. Number 33, adopts local law to amend Chapter 231 of the Riverhead Town Code titled Fire Prevention Section 14 thereof, titled Assistance to Authorized Agency's Reimbursement of Expenses. Number 34, adopts local law to amend Chapter 231 of the Riverhead Town Code titled Fire Prevention, didn't get the article, Flammable and Combustible Liquids. Number 35, adopts a local law to amend Chapter 231 of the Riverhead Town Code titled Fire Prevention Section 25 thereof, titled Outdoor Fires. Number 36, adopts local law to amend Chapter 231 of the Riverhead Town Code titled Fire Prevention Section 66 thereof, titled Penalties for Events as Notice of Violation. Number 37, assesses cost of labor and material for previously authorized remedial actions at premises known as 12 Longview Drive Riverhead Town Code. 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okay this concludes the open session of our work session for today in a moment we will go into executive session to discuss under legal uh potential litigation acquisition of real property with howard and hurley and thomas and possible litigation matters surrounding possible litigation with howard so if i could have a motion to close open session and go into executive session supervisor can i just yes ma'am i just want to make a comment i was at the chamber of commerce meeting this morning and there was an article in newsday published yesterday with regard to items that are not going to happen in the town and that was based off the bid website i spoke with liz o'shaughnessy and she asked newsday to refer to the chamber of commerce for the events that are actually taking place because what posted on the bid website's not accurate information okay if you could speak to liz o'shaughnessy we appreciate it thank you okay i did reach out to uh tara smith from newsday that did the article yesterday and explained to her um that the cardboard boat race is put on through the chamber and not the bid correct yeah thank you okay they passed their budget so they get their social fees you wanted a motion motion to uh close open session and go into executive session second second all in favor aye all opposed okay we will now retire to executive session thank you everyone have a great weekend thank you