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To the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. To recap our announcements from last night, does any council members have any announcements this morning? Yes, I'll restate them again. This is just a couple. First and foremost, we have a flyer up on the screen, if we could put that up, Justin. This is CAF, has their medication take back. And that is, the date is, I'm sorry, what date is this day? I was going to just have the date. May 30th. May 30th, thank you. May 30th from 8 a.m. till 2 p.m. at the Highway Yard. This is where we ask everybody to bring in their unwanted, unused medications. We're looking for our goal. We need just 300 more pounds, and we will have an actual total of 15,000 pounds that CAF has collected over the years, which is an amazing thing. This keeps it out of the hands of children. It also keeps it out of our waterways. So if you have those, please bring them on down to the Highway Yard. It's also the stop day. That's where you bring in electronics or paint cans and such, so you can get rid of all of that. But please remember to do that. Also, CAF is having the CAF March at the Pulaski Street School. That's going to be on the, I'm sorry, on June 5th, 9 a.m. It's a great way to celebrate the community. The children. The children march with their t-shirts, drug-free. It's a great activity, and it's wonderful to see the youth of the community so vibrant and so happy and so aware of the fact that they need to stay away from drugs and alcohol and smoking. Also, on June 13th, another community event. On June 13th, you can pick up, if you order online, you can go to our town website and order composters and rain barrels. And if you have one of those, if you've ordered it, you can pick it up. Again, this is going to be at the Young's Avenue Yard from 9 a.m. until 2 p.m. It's a great way to help the environment. It also cuts down on the amount of, for the sanitation department of what they have to collect. So please contribute for the environment and help and order your own composter. And you can pick it up, again, at the Young's Avenue Yard on June 13th. And lastly, on June 16th, still recapping about CAF, we're going to be honoring the town board. It's going to be honoring the seniors. We're going to be honoring the seniors who have stayed with the CAF program through school and been mentors and helped all the other young children. I think it's a great way to celebrate our youth and our community that are so community-minded. So if you want to come out and celebrate those seniors, that's on June 16th at 6 p.m. Thank you very much, Supervisor. Absolutely. Anyone else? As we'll mention, the Veterans Advisory Committee has worked with the VFW and the American Legion. So we ask everybody to join us for the Memorial Day Parade on Monday coming up. And take a moment of reflection about what Memorial Day is all about. And enjoy a safe weekend. Hope to see you all on Monday for the parade. Anybody in here? So that parade starts at 9 a.m. on Court Street and also Memorial Day at Calverton National Cemetery. They'll be doing their normal ceremony at 12 where they honor all of our servicemen and women and their families. And the fourth before the fourth coming up at Grangeville Park is going to be exciting. And also, there's still time to apply to be part of the parade. With those announcements closing, we will open our... I'm sorry. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, ma'am. I didn't want to forget. The Mosaic Art Festival is also on May 31st. And I believe that's on 2nd Street this year. Is that correct? Yes, ma'am. So please everybody come out with the kids and paint the street. Thank you. Great idea. So with that, we'll open our open session. Our first one is Matters Surrounding Status of Implementing Fire Marshals Carrying Side Arms and an update on the formation of our HAZMAT team with Councilor Howard and our two fire marshals. Smith? Yes, sir. And Keating? Good morning. We believe we've been here since last night. Me too. Yes, I know. All right. So we have two items. I don't know... Do you guys have a preference which one... Yes. All right. So we'll go with the firearms thing. So as you know, we are already sworn peace officers under the CPL. We are not...

under the CPL, which gives us an option to carry fire under our pistol permit.

Basically, all the other agencies in Suffolk County are already doing this, with the exception of us. So I have an assessment here just so you can see what agencies are doing. On a county level, we're currently working on updating our Orson Control plan, and so a lot of this kind of plays into that. Obviously, the reason why we want to do this is because we go to these fire scenes, we're tasked with maintaining the security of the fire scene for the volunteer fire department, but we also do the fire investigation, which oftentimes leads to the discovery of a felony crime being committed, which kind of puts us in a vulnerable position.

So I just kind of laid out for you guys some of the motives for arson, revenge, financial gain. Excitement could be another crime somebody's trying to conceal. Sometimes it's a murder scene that they think they're going to get rid of the evidence by setting the house on fire. So we're the first ones in to discover this kind of thing. And we are peace officers. We do have arrest powers, but we currently are not armed to enforce our peace officer status. Okay, did you want to add to this? Yeah, so in connection with implementing this as one of their standard pieces of equipment, we're developing procedures and policies for use of force, for use of force, having firearms, the training requirements, dealing with officer-involved shootings and how those would be investigated, dealing with... I think it says personnel complaints, and the equipment policies related to firearms and holsters, and the use of handcuffs or other restraints. So basically what we did was we looked at some PD policies, we looked at some state policies, and also other fire marshals' policies. And with Liam, we've been sort of combining them and coming up with something that we think will be workable for us. I've reviewed those policies with our outside labor council, and they are being circulated to the CSEA because the fire marshal's office are part of the CSEA, so they need to review the policies first as well. Once we think we have a pretty solid, almost final draft, that will be circulated to the town board. And hopefully at a future town board meeting, we'd be, if the town board is comfortable with it, we'd be proffering a resolution to implement those policies. And I think that's what we're doing. Are all fire marshals peace officers? So in the assessment you see there's some towns that aren't. You mean here in Riverhead? In Riverhead, yes. Yeah. So there are new guys still has to go through the training. But myself, Liam and Jordan all went through the peace officer academy that's conducted by the sheriff's office. Let me just ask you a question. You guys are great so don't take this personal, but when we do police officers and we understand they're going to carry firearms, we're going to have to do something. or go through psychological testing and things of that nature. Are you guys willing to go through those same testing, but does that risk any current job position and so forth? Right now that's not a requirement, civil service. However, they are contemplating adding that as a requirement for the fire marshal title, but it wouldn't be made retroactive to the fire marshals that currently hold the title. Right, and I think the reason why they don't do it now is because under the CPL, we carry under our pistol permit, so when you go to do the pistol permit application, they kind of vet that. If we were to move to carry under our shield, that would probably be something that we would mandate as a requirement. So when you say that, to clarify the difference from a legal standpoint, so you're taking your own liability or is the town picking up the liability? The town, we would still let our insurance carrier know, and it would still be part of our policy, but they're carrying under our shield. They're carrying under their personal pistol permits, so there is an aspect of personal liability there as well. So is this concealed or is this open? No, it should be open.

Proficiency testing? You'd be doing yearly firearms testing? Yep, we would go with the Suffolk County Sheriff's Office. They offer that service to us.

And right now we do refreshers for our peace officers anyway, where we go to the sheriff's office. And do like a one day class, use of force, all that stuff. The only difference now is we would have to qualify with our firearms. Right. And every year you'd have to do that. Yes. Yep. And that's all written into the policies that Liam, he went pretty thorough with everything. I just have one point, just following up on Councilman Rothwell's point. Why not make it retroactive? Why not make the psychological testing for all individuals? That is just . . . . . . . . . . talking about moving forward that there would be psychological testing. Is that correct Mr. Howard? No, that would be a civil service determination. based on the way they qualify someone for the title. Okay. I'm sorry, I'm not understanding the distinction. In terms of, right, with the police department, you do have to go for a psychological examination to carry. I understand the difference with the pistol department. You go through the psychological in connection with getting on the list to qualify for the title. And that's not just for carrying a firearm. That's for all other aspects of the job. Correct. Is that correct? Yeah. All right.

Just of the incidents in these other towns where they're carrying firearms, have they gone up? I mean, do you have examples of incidents? I know that a couple weeks ago one of the Brookhaven fire marshals was attacked by a gentleman. Other than that, I don't have any, like, real statistical data on it. Okay. That's curious. Can I ask, would you think of maybe, as an alternative, tasers? Carrying tasers? We thought about that, and Southampton does that. But the problem you run into is if you have a taser and someone else has a firearm, you're not in a good position. So part of what we're doing is we're going to have less lethal, so probably OC spray or something like that, because you don't want to just jump right to pulling a firearm. You want to have a less lethal option. ASP, OC spray. Okay.

I don't know. My concern with, especially being on personnel, hiring other people in the future, that would automatically, once they have the peace officer title, it would kind of make me feel uncomfortable knowing that the person that we're hiring, that we're technically letting them have a firearm without any kind of psychological evaluation. I spoke with Ashley. I spoke with Ashley about this a little, and I did some canvassing of the other towns. No, the other towns do it. I'm not against it at all. What I came back with is it was because of the CPL and the pistol permit requirement where they vet you for the pistol permit itself. That's why they don't do it. I don't want you to feel that I'm meaning this towards you, but thinking about the future, once we implement it, we don't know what that looks like down the road. And I would feel more comfortable if there's some kind of way that we are able to put in place that there has to be a psychological evaluation. I mean, we're talking about a weapon, something that could take another person's life. That's not to be taken lightly. It's a very serious thing. I think with the psychological, you have to look at both sides. I understand that it's a protection mechanism for you guys to carry, but I also just want to make sure that, again, not directed towards you. Think of... 20 years in the future. You know, mental capacities, suicide rates, things like that. These firearms are... We issuing them, and we determine exactly the types of these 9mm and who's purchasing the firearms, who's issuing them. So this is something that we budget for you. What would they do? Town issue. Glock 19s is what we're speccing out. So if we're issuing, we're purchasing the firearms that we're issuing, why are they doing it under their own personal carry? Because the CPL says that's how we have to... As a piece of it. So there's... So right now, the sworn police officers carry under their shield, and their shield essentially replaces the pistol permit. So when they go through the process of interviewing and vetting to become a police officer, that's where you get the psychological evaluation, and that's in connection with all the duties that go along with that. And then you're issued... You get the shield, and you... Basically surrender any pistol permit that you have, and all of your firearms, your town-issued firearms, your personal firearms are all covered under that shield. Because the fire marshals under the CPL carry under their pistol permit, every firearm that they are carrying has to be associated with that permit. So any firearm issued by the town, they would report in connection with their personal pistol permit to the sheriff's... Yeah, Suffolk County Sheriff. And the Suffolk County Sheriff is responsible for all the vetting that goes into issuing that permit in the first place. Now, how will we distinct between on-duty, off-duty? So is it something in which if you're going to carry... You know, you're carrying... You guys are on call, you know, so now you go home, and it's 6 o'clock, and there's nothing happening, and you walk into 7-Eleven, and there's an incident. Just, you know, God forbid. Like, how are we doing? That coverage, are they on duty? Are they solely on their own? But are they going to say we're on call? If we carry off-duty, it'd be under our own concealed permit. But what about if you're on duty? If you say, state that, I'm on call tonight, and I walk into 7-Eleven, and I'm attacked, you know? I mean, we are sworn law enforcement, so we do have a duty to act regardless of whether we're armed or not. It's part of the New York State law and requirements. So whether we're armed or not, it's still the same requirements for us. Again, if we are working, it would be, like, said we would be under our working purview. If it's not off hours, it's under our own concealed carry permit. Could you tell me about the insurance? What happens to the insurance for the town covering this? Yeah, I'm waiting to hear back quotes from our insurance broker. So we'd be looking to cover for fire marshals. Are there instances now where you're waiting for a police officer to show up so you can go into a situation? The big difference is, like, where the fire line is, you don't generally see the police department inside the fire scene. We are actually going into the building and things like that. So, you know, there's been times when I've interviewed somebody, like, beyond the fire scene, and I realize something's not right. I got to go back and get a police officer. But if that person's irrational or something, I may not have that luxury. Okay. Well, I think this is a lot to think about and a lot to consider. I appreciate you bringing it here for us to look at. I don't know what other questions people have. I think some of the questions that we presented, Eric, can get back to you, and we can circle back to this and have another conversation. Okay. So thank you. All right. Do you want to move on to Hazmat? Liam will lead this. He's been working very hard on this response plan. So in coordination with some of the police officers attending some training, which we are in the process of getting started again since the Center for Domestic Preparedness was closed for a bit. We're trying to formalize the Hazardous Materials Emergency Response Plan, which is kind of the benchmark or the cornerstone to the team and how it operates based on state regulations, OSHA regulations, and NFPA standards. So this is kind of a synopsis. This, ultimately, is the document, 50 pages of front to back. If you guys want copies, they do have it. It's just a little bit easier to make it a little bit more succinct in this response plan, the synopsis. So basically, it goes over the regulatory requirements of the Hazmat Emergency Response Plan. Some of the specific under the Hazmat plan, you need to identify local hazards, what those might be, and how you're going to identify mitigation of those. It goes then into establishment, establishing a couple of different response levels based on how the team is activated, one being the lowest handled in-house with the fire marshal's office or the fire department, and then four being a multi-jurisdiction incident. And then, obviously, the prioritization of life safety and the incidents. It identifies this as a Type 3 team. There's Type 3 through 1, one being the most highly equipped and staffed. Type 3 would be what we're going to be going to be using for the next three years. So that's what we're going for now with Type 2 capabilities. That's most of the teams within the county, and we'll operate under the county as a whole organization to operate together as a Type 1 team for the region. So that's kind of how we get equipment and materials from the county through grants through the state. And then it just kind of goes through how we do hazard assessments and decontamination operations, public learning, incident commands. It just is really a roadmap to any sort of incident that might take place and then under a unified command structure with the fire department, the police department, and then the HAZMAT team themselves. We have went over this plan specifically with each of the fire districts and their chief officers. We're looking for feedback. We have kind of had just some conversations about it, thus forth, but they have a copy of the draft plan. So if they have any questions, they can reach out to us on that. And then kind of moving forward, we're just again coordinating with the standard operating procedures, incorporating it into our offices policies, how the team would work, the response-wise, and then once we get up to the staffing level that we're looking for, we'll be able to, with the town board approval of the plan and otherwise, be able to start doing some training with some of the team members. So that's kind of where we're moving forward, and this is just a lead-up to that. We've been getting equipment for the last couple months, so we're pretty good. The county surplus those trailers for us. So we had them re-lettered, say, Riverhead Town Fire Marshal's on them. We'll be able to use those for response to get it off the ground. Eventually, we'd be looking to get some kind of apparatus, but, you know, we got to be able to get money for that. We're good to go. We, I'm pretty sure we meet all the typecasting requirements. All the vehicles can tow them? The trailers? All our trucks, yeah. We inspect our trucks to make sure we can tow those trailers. Just that over the last week. Yes. We might leave the bumper behind the back of your truck. It seems like we needed this for a long time already. It's been a long time. You know, I think I've mentioned it before the prior fire marshal Bruce Johnson put together a plan back in 2005. And it didn't really take off. So we kind of worked off that model and made adjustments where it needed to be. And I think we're in a good spot. Great. This is really good stuff. We'll keep working. We'll keep pushing forward. you guys put a lot of time and effort into so thank you very much very thorough too yeah the grand side of things working with the county so thanks joanne what did they say what they did can i say one of those packets yeah of course i've got these for everybody a little light reading right there if you're just setting curiosity waterways so would you be uh do you need that floats thank you so if there was like a spill or something in a waterway um like the fuel at that gas station that time yeah we could we have some capabilities to like boom up a leak or something like that in the water and kind of control it until we can get somebody there to do the actual cleanup i'll give you the call i'll give you the number for the navy thank you guys thank you so much appreciate it our next uh next open session matter is matter surrounding proposed amendments to site plan review procedures with planner matt charters

who was just up there hello matt good morning everybody all right so what will i hope be very brief today uh the board recalls we've been working on amendments to site plan review and other sections of the town code dealing with the planning department since uh the fall of last year uh we presented our plan review to the county of the solid work session back in march and went to the planning board so we have made some final tweaks to this just to make the process a little bit clearer and easier for people if the board's aware now we have a three-step process pre-submission preliminary final we're looking to just go to pre-submission and then straight site plan so final approval within site plan we do have two other i would say sub versions of what is considered a site plan we have de minimis approvals and then we have what is now called administrative approvals the existing de minimis uh approval uh section is not very very telling about what actually could be considered to minutes de minimis approval if you look in the section uh i sent you so it's on page four of the uh code amendment it says uh amendments which uh do not material affect the external appearance of the building or site replacement doors or the like so it's carried out for limited maintenance or improvements with minor alterations you're on page four which section page four f of the code so if you go to the fourth page of that letter f is where it's de minimis um so it speaks of carrying out of maintenance and minor alterations so what this this amendment does is sort of beef up and make uh much more clear what's actually de minimis can i show you about i'm on page four there's no f so maybe i have a different version oh i was going by the number this is the fifth page according to this okay so this just sort of beef up and clarifies what's actually eligible for de minimis so there's a nice long description in this middle part tells you how you can get to diminish approval it's really at the discretion of the department administrator if you get the qualifications so we'll either have to tell you yes this can be an admin or no it can't and then direct you to what version of cyclone you'll need the actual applications that are covered so that's i so that's subsection one and then two and three so there are amendments to existing site plans that are above very minor alterations so that's ten percent or a thousand square feet whichever is less changes to parking that are ten spaces or less uh just real staff level admin stuff that for lack of better terms is not really worthy of coming to a board or we can handle in-house rather than going through a whole public hearing process getting them onto agenda just to make quick changes which makes sense that's not to say it's only us that are looking at it uh these would still be subject to our traditional referrals that are called out in the code so if it has to go to the state county shippo town engineer arb lpc that's all still happening and then the second change that's in this section is just to change what we are calling administrative approvals which are really not administrative at all uh that either go to the town board or the planning board for a one-step approval process with no public hearing those will be called expedited because they are expedited they're not administrative i like that's important because you have applicants that you know come through quite a bit and you know their work ethic you know what you're looking at already and you know to keep holding up these projects for as long as they sit and sometimes it can be very very minor improvements that need to take place that then you're beholden to either the town board schedule or the planning board schedule things come in at weird times of the month so then there's waiting sometimes two or three weeks just to be heard this makes easier things that are good easy to achieve from all the plans that you see give me with this cover 10 20 you know it's hard to say but it's it's helpful when someone's doing a minor change say they have a use change that they need 10 more parking spaces for and they can accommodate those 10 parking spaces with an existing parking area that would be captured without having to come to a board to say like oh you have room for the parking so you can do the parking so maybe what takes four years might take two hopefully a month wow now i'm really impressed great so it's for the small stuff so if the board's comfortable i'd like to add this in for public hearing and with these will be the rest of the site plan changes as well as removing fees for subdivisions uh cac and zba just take those out of the code and then we'll be able to adopt it our fee schedule which increases all the planning fees which i think is a good thing because we're a little bit behind on that i think it's great good with that good yes sir thank you about 20 years late but hey better late than never go as fast as i can thank you our next uh item for open session is uh with counselor councilman kern uh bob costaldi gary higam mountain surrounding downtown parking related to the pecanic hotel gentlemen if you'd like to join us good morning guys i couldn't get all your stuff on the agenda because i got it this morning that's okay it's all right oh yeah so i think there's a couple of things you want to discuss putting so bob ask if we could stick to the parking insurance you want to leave that sure that's fine yeah you know we got some concerns about uh parking when we have show we've been selling out gary and we've got that parking lot loaded plus means uh main street from roanoke all the way to mcdermott so i'm all for joe's hotel and the plaza but we're concerned that the parking issue is going to affect us in a bad way so so with that uh and that's why i reckon i suggest you just speak with dawn i'm sure they'll you know there's something that can be worked out with that but i would speak with dawn and see you know and then come back on that particular issue but what what's the solution or probable solution we're packing those parking lots right now and i don't know you know maybe people may walk uh a wee bit in the summertime but if it's wintertime mostly our crowd is over 55 60. they're not taking a hike in winter or the rain so we we have we're going to have a problem well i'd like to ask i'm sorry but don thomas is not here today and this has been put on at the last minute i just don't think it's fair that she's not here today to discuss this i really think i don't know why this is adding immediately like this yeah and it's not a matter of not being fair i mean it's it i've already i've let dawn know about this you know actually and i I had asked you to call her. Because I know there's been talk about trolleys and stuff like that. So I can't speak for her or what she's got in the works. I forgot about that. We dump out somewhere between $450 and $650. Okay. So if you run a shuttle, and I'm assuming it would be here at the town hall, it's going to take you approximately 10 minutes to load up, 10 minutes to get here, 10 minutes to unload, 10 minutes to get back to the theater. I don't know what a bus holds. I'm taking a guess. It's 30 people. Two buses, that's 60 people an hour. We have a lot of people. 600 people. And it's wintertime. I don't know if that's going to work. Well, I just want to point out that you have an apartment project, correct? Yes. And you don't have any parking for that as well, right? That is true. And that's why the parking garage is going to be the answer to Riverhead's parking project. That is the long-term answer, and we're working towards those goals. In the meantime, until it's done. Which is another issue, because I spoke to the architect who I worked with on the Suffolk Theater. Even if the parking problem with the hotel and the theater, that can be worked out, when the parking garage goes up, that's going to be disruptive too. That whole back area. So I had an idea, and I just called up the architect to see if I'm crazy or if I'm halfway smart. And I said, would they be able to do, if I was doing it, I would take a section. Let's say that parking lot is 400 by 100. I'm guessing at it. Take a small section of it. Disrupt that area 20 by 100. Put in the foundation and the basis for the columns. And then move. To the next one. And the next one. And now the foundation's in. Then come in and build it like an erector set. Where you do section, section, section, section, section. And you're saying that you think you're going to be able to park while you're building that in those areas? I don't think you're going to get that close to a construction site. Yeah. I think. Precast concrete. How many stories are you going to? Well, we've also just rehired our plant. We're going to be parking consulting. And this is all going to be addressed with him as well. He said yes, there's a way to do it. Well, I think. I mean, I used to do a lot of work in five boroughs. And logistically, that's the worst place to put up everything. And I've seen how they've done it. They've put up 50-story buildings, you know, taking up just a little room on the sidewalk. Do you want to build it? No. He wants to design it. Well, I could say, sure, I'll design it for him. No, I might. You're running a theater now. Huh? I said you're running a theater now. And that is one of, just to weigh in a bit, and you know my views on this. We've talked about it before. But that is one of my big concerns is when that, things are happening to me out of order. And a parking garage going in after the fact. And that, the better part of that lot being inaccessible for the better part of at least a year is going to be devastating at that point. Now we have a hotel. We've got new businesses. Everything is functioning. Our parking lot is, our parking positions have been cut in half. And now we're building a garage. That's the longer term concern of mine. So I don't know if there's an answer to that at this point. But it's something that does need to be considered. Because that will be, that time period in building will be devastating to everyone. It will shut us down. So if you do it in a modular way, right? So let's say. It can be done. Yeah. So let's say you get two stories up, right? So to address, because what's on the ground is on the ground. So you're only getting the. Second story. Now you're doubling what's on the ground. And actually a little bit less because you've got, you know, roadways inside. So if it went up three stories. I mean, it's something to really consider for every, for all the businesses down there. If you go up three stories, let's say we're going up five, but you get three. You're accommodating what was there and a little bit more on the ground. It's not when it's done. It's when it's being done that is the problem. Mm-hmm. Well, I think like a lot of things we've talked about at town board meetings, there's a lot of concern over and everybody has questions. And that's why you're here today to pose those questions to us. And we appreciate your partnership with that. I don't think it has shut you down. I think that you guys have a viable business that you've built and I believe in you. I believe you're a marquee. Everybody sitting here does. And so I'm thankful that you're at least addressing those like Denise said. I think she's our liaison to that, that committee and she can take those concerns back and we have to continue to listen and make sure. That we're aware of them and then we can bring further things to it. So, you know, I've always said everybody has an idea how they do it differently, right? We would all do everything differently. I'm sure that's what makes us unique in individuals. But together and, you know, you're at the macro of the micro of the small businesses downtown. So I think, you know, you coming and sitting here, it helps us to stay aware that parking is going to be something we need to be cognizant of the whole time. So. Thanks. Just opening a dialogue. Yeah, definitely. Definitely. I think that's the way. As long as, you know, we know how to try to work around it, we'll try to work around it. You know, we've come too far to, you know, you don't want to lose the momentum. Absolutely. You want to keep it going and do that. The other thing I wanted was- Before you shift on that, can I just make a comment? Sure. I think that long term, that the Suffolk is going to benefit by everything that is happening downtown, probably the most of any entity down there. When people want to go somewhere, they're willing to walk if they really want to go. And I always use Newport as a prime example. Newport packs out. You have to walk to get downtown. There's no parking. You offer a good product, people will find a way to get there. Currently, I go to the theater a lot. I never have a parking lot. I never have a parking problem. Sometimes I know if it's a packed out show, I'm going to go downtown, park earlier, go walk somewhere, have dinner, walk back to the theater, my car is right there ready for me to leave and go home. There's always avenues of finding ways to get to where you want to go, especially when you're in a walkable downtown. That's a cool idea of driving pedestrian traffic down there. I mean, you see in Theater 3 and even West Hampton Beach. They did an- West Hampton did a beautiful revitalization effort down there, but parking is often at a distance, but it also gets them to pass many other retail restaurants. I'm not saying that we want to make your patrons walk, but I'm just saying in a downtown setting, large parking lots situated on Main Street don't drive pedestrian traffic and foot traffic and things. You're right. I mean, I talk to our clientele continually, and it is probably one of the number one draws to the theater is the convenience. They don't like going to Patchogue because of the parking problems. They don't like going to Theater 3 because of the parking problems. But they still go. That is ... Yes. They're coming to us now. Look, I think we need to start the dialogue and move forward, but the answer to me is not, which has been kind of a drumbeat. I think we need to move forward. Oh, thank you.

plummeting or potentially Just because we're talking timing and everything when are you planning on completing your apartment project? Those because we're talking about parking no we'll jump right over to item number two my understanding is that You have the money there was a grant given to the town to put that water line in to facilitate the parking garage and also the Extension on the theater. That's it before you go further I would don't needs to be here for that because she handles the grass and she would have the answer to that My understanding is assuming that way my assumption is correct If you've got the money for the water line Why don't we put the water line in? I? Mean it would be kind of silly to Take a hole and throw a whole bunch of money in there and put up a building And then not have water for a year two or three That would be financial Suicide again that I think that's something to bring up with Dawn. I think it's a good point, but she needs to be here to answer that Okay, yeah, we could we definitely circle back to that or you could reach out through you know that office individually as well But but the parking like I said you're the macro Of the micro of everybody So I think that's something we're aware of cognizant of even the construction parking in Thank you for coming in and bringing to the forefront start of the dialogue I wanted some more things What's up? I think is it related to the parking? If it's related to the mario, it's related to the well kind of but not It's related to the alleyway to the parking parking garage Somewhere down the line that's going to be the main thoroughfare everybody's going to park and go down to the town square and go to Main Street and It's eight foot wide the town's got a four foot right away over it and It's been There's been a problem we get bad snow. There's no place to put it Even if I went on board a snowblower, it would just be banking banging off the side walls And if you go forward you'll wind up 20 feet with a 40 foot high wall snow I Understand that there was some money again. I'll talk to Dawn about this grant to do something with lighting and make that main thoroughfare a lot nazi than it is and What I was thinking is is that? The lighting design whatever it is, and I don't know but if we Put a covering a cover over it. There's a lot of problems I mean we live with it You know that water comes down that alley where you can go whitewater rafting down now That's how bad it is and then it gets all over Main Street on the sidewalk in the street and freezes If we were to cover that with the slope of the of the alleyway and put two six inch drains down Bust up the sidewalk and tie it to the sewer where it winds up anyway That eliminates all that ice on Main Street all the ice in Assuming that it's clean all the ice in the street and all the ice down the alleyway with that and what and also it would make it a lot easier for people in the winter and it's pouring rain You know they've got a cover way that goes from the parking lot Right down to Main Street. You don't mind getting a little wet. You just don't want to get a lot wet I just you know because you didn't I didn't I Needed the entire list so what I would do right this will get on You know that's a meeting with Ken tester and a meeting with dawn okay, and and you know to do on on the grant side Ken tester on the engineering side Set that up okay? Just so we because we you had contacted me during the winter time and and can tested drew up the GIS And that's not our property so it's good shit. No it's not Jason owners right we are the owner Liability of us like and they haven't plowed that or shoveled that out. He said it's 15 years because it's not our So right that's why I think the cover if there's a grant can and we can cover it it would solve a multitude of problems, and it's only eight By a hundred and fifty it's I don't know 1200 square feet It's and then put you look the lighting underneath there. I mean Interacting landing there's so many great things. I mean it's gonna be You know It's not gonna be the main attraction, but it's gonna be the main thoroughfare to get to Main Street and the town square well, I think I think it sounds like What you want to circle back to? Vegas? And you know interact the alleyway Cta came up with funds to do the alleyway the South Side of Main Street So that's just about done. They're just waiting for the electric to be hooked up everything else is installed All right, so the next steps are you how do we set up? I think they go through I need to talk to can test about that I mean you have it sounds like you have and then to circle back to our CDA if there's help there speaking to your neighbor if it's a shared you know Mike Mike Butler's a good guy I own I own to his building the town has a right-of-way four feet off of his building so I've spoken to Mike I think he would love to have I don't think he'd have a problem putting in a ledger board along his building well I think that yeah I think like you should you should really sit down with dawn and the CDA and they could potentially look and see what grants are very great but I mean you can start the discussion on the project that's an interesting project you know it'd be good to have coverage way so in light and lighting anything anything the CDA well definitely you need lighting obviously but the CDA is the bomb for you to really sit down okay we'll do yeah set up the meeting with Mike and yourself all right Mike Butler we're gonna meeting the terms of the engineering part if he owned the alleyway then you know I mean he could the engineer could he owned the alleyway so that's gonna be something if you want to put drains it bring the co-owner in and sit down with dawn and look on the joint the project I don't think Mike would have a problem I mean he we've spoken about it a lot you know you know he shares that alleyway he doesn't own it but we've spoken a few times about you know why don't we go do something here you know make it look nice and i mean his people lighting project you know to kind of give you like a little great my architect also said he's been thinking about it too so uh he said he'd love to do that too get involved in that he's a real creative guy okay well thanks for bringing the parking and i think that's something that keep constantly i mean i know something we always have dialogue about so thanks gentlemen great thanks for your time absolutely pleasure see you soon works but yeah i think bob would just i don't know who he just uh he just said so keep it up uh i'm addressing the drains already made a call number one thank you thank you thank you number two there's a map up there which i'm going to submit to the entire town board which has um you see the the lines intersecting the roads so that's what you have the crosswalks that's what they represent and i have um in touch with someone's been working on the uh i've been working i started this about three years ago so when it go and it's going to go back as far as michael's liquors which is the really really really dark spot and just to put yellow lights on the uh blinking lights and we'll see how what what state has you know in terms of the aprisabrotten or however you know whatever the latest technology said like the they actually light up the crosswalk when you're when you're going to cross it you push a button in it like it's lights the lights flick them back and then we had a one of our patrons uh was hit um he came to crosswalk after a show um and after the show we were thrown but all right so cover so that okay okay thank you thank you thank you thank you guys thank you for your great day see you at the show those crosswalks though are part of the uh smart streets some of them are but the the the thing about it is what my mind is the thing about it is the thing about it is the thing about it is the thing about it is the thing about it is the thing about it is the thing about it is the thing about it is the thing about it isn't but i know i know for a fact that dawn's been addressing that and working on it and she has told you that yeah i've spoken to her about it and the thing about it is if it does get narrowed if we get approval for that it's it's a wire all they do is just move it they're going to move the sign anyway so that uh we will just take a take a motion to end our open session go to executive session to talk about matters contractual matters surrounding the agreement between the town of Riverhead and the Riverhead Housing Development Corp with Councilman Kern and Councilor Howard can I have a motion to adjourn. So moved. Second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Anybody opposed? All right. See you tomorrow.

Thank you.