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Thank you. Good morning, everybody. Today is Thursday, September 10th, 2026. We're here for a work session. but before we go any further, as always, we'll stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. Councilman Rothwell, would you lead us, please? Yes, Supervisor. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, sir. Does anybody have any announcements today that they'd like to make? Well, I have 25 of us tonight. Yes, sir. Five to, I believe, 8 p.m. Okay. And the Lobster Fest is at the Polish Hall this Sunday at, I think, what time is that starting? 1.30. Yep. And just a reminder, Friday, September 11th, Town Hall will have a delayed opening until 11.30 a.m. And at 10 a.m. at our 9-11 Memorial in Calverton, our Town Clerk, Jim Wooten, we'll be emceeing a memorial service where we all stop and pay tribute to just an absolutely horrific event that happened a quarter of a century ago. And so if you'd like to join us, we welcome you to pause and to remember. The words are just hard to find sometimes because of where we all are, but we want to make sure that we, as a community, are able to remember those that were affected beyond just their memory, but we're taken from this world way too early and we want to thank those that continue to stand by us With that thought in mind We'll continue to move through our service. We are our Work session today. We have a lot of other service announcements that we can do later But we'll begin with Kevin wood matter surrounding plan for parking management services with Councilman, Mary field and miss Thomas Welcome back Kevin Good to be back. Thank you, Justin, for the great laptop. It's like take two. It's take two, different subject matter. The other was parking enforcement. Yeah. We're going to go back to that for a second because I want to review that. So this is more of a guiding document, and the last thing I want to do to this board is throw a 110-page document in front of you and have you wade through it. That will eventually happen, by the way, and you'll get it well in advance for what we will call our final parking utilization plan. I hope you like my P-U dot P, PUP, right? Parking utilization plan. That's what I was going to ask. I have last week's, but is it just last week's again? We're just following along with you? Yes. You don't have printouts? No. Okay, again, this is a guiding document for me. This document is, it could be printed out, yeah. I just don't long as we can follow along but as long as it's available to the public so first thing I like to do is go back to last week because There there were items that came up with councilman Rothwell, which I completely appreciate the feedback. It's it's actually pertinent to the process here We are redrafting the enforcement permanent technology RFP that we started and it was looking good and we're doing that because because Recreation Ashley was good enough to come by and just enlighten us all on their specific needs. Also what happened, and I just want to get his first name, is Rich from Code Enforcement? Yes. He also joined us. We've had subsequent conversations during the week, and I'm particularly learning for the first time that the police department issues some 20-something infractions that they are allowed and do issue. The reason why that's important And the reason why we don't rush the process of putting in technology is these 20 can be placed on handhelds. To Denise's point, that's what we want to do with a handheld. We want to have those 20-something infractions as pull-downs to also issue and track. I still have questions as to how those are managed. That could be talked about here if somebody knows, or we can further investigate that. But they're issued by the police department. They're handwritten, which is, as we all said, incredible. I have a list of that if need be. It's on my laptop, not on here. So the point is that we have to refine the RFP to include that and also to include the outer beach parking that Ashley had given us great detail on. And we will do that. And we're in the midst of doing that. Two council person concerns I heard, one from you, council person Kern, was to have these things ahead of time. But again, these are guiding documents for me to bring you through this. You will absolutely have any final draft documents well in advance, and I just wanted you to feel confident in that. Just to remind that we need to really address the yard waste facility with a gate. Being up front, that's not in my scope. If you determine it's in my scope or I can help, I'm glad to do that. We've talked about a couple of the ideas I have on that. The other concern was, and feedback was fantastic, was possible reserve parking for our beloved Suffolk Theater, which is really going to be, in everybody's view, part of the center of the town. And I want to address those. I haven't had a conversation with Suffolk Theater. I was just kind of thinking, but I'd like to sit down with them and let them know their thoughts. you know you did have a conversation with him can you yeah i mean i i would love to hear how that well the conversation was was concerns about the global the global parking plan as it moves forward and and worries of local businesses it was more that concern sure but um i'll talk about exactly your your concern first i want to and if ashley needs to come up here for this portion that's fantastic we have as you know till now really concentrated on downtown parking which is fine because those systems I've always said should go outlying to what I see here and I want you to first concern confirm that those are the approximate destinations of the parking lots that you and I talked about during the week yes okay and there's an overflow parking lot that is not fully paved but it's always used right across from waiting it's called waiting River Beach overflow Yeah, but that's paved and it has lines and marked for our parking But then I explained to you there was in addition to these manned beaches. There's all these waterfront access points Boat launches just ends of roads that you can walk onto the beach, but it also is parking by permit only So it needs to be that's enforced. Sure I'm just gonna mention and that overflow parking lot for the waiting River Beach some of those spots belong to a Laplage restaurant this feedback is pertinent and this could all flow through Dawn's office or the liaison Denise Denise those those are really important to know as we you know finalize the plan but these are the four major points am I correct yeah that is a reasonable facsimile of the township and then of course we go into downtown Riverhead and I'll get to this in later slides but kind of what I'm showing here in colors is you know really prime parking lots in one two and four I'm showing what could be outlying employee or free parking lots in yellow I'm showing shared spaces in purple you know those as court court parking and then outlying the LIRR, which I understand sometime in the future could be or would be redeveloped. Getting right to Councilperson Rothwell's point, this was a big light bulb for us, I think, last week. And normally what you do with permitted parking for the goal of making sure, it's a great thought. Someone buys a ticket to the Suffolk Theater, they're also buying parking, they're guaranteed parking, and it's prime parking. Great, great idea. It should happen. Normally that's done. A perfect scenario would be the multi-deck is built and there's spaces dedicated to that. You have a gate. We're now in a gateless world in technology where ALPR can do this. So I want to enunciate the goal here and see if it meets what you were thinking to ensure senior citizens, patrons, accessibility needs and theater going theater goers have guaranteed stress-free parking within a short distance of the Suffolk theater. I think that's extremely reasonable. And we've done this through shuttle parking, right? Dawn, we had parking here, and we had those patrons go to the Suffolk Theater that night, and that was successful, so it's a nice backup. As Riverhead, downtown Riverhead grows, we may need to invoke something like this. The problem is with open lots, they don't have gates. We can't have gates. You don't want gates in open lots. But we can do what we call the modern solution, which is dedicating a row or two to that night where there's a performance and we can use automated license plate technology to ensure that that has been a pre-bought ticket. I don't want to overcomplicate this, but this could happen actually through the sale of the ticket itself. And that's a bigger conversation because we're actually talking about a partnership between the municipality and this private business. If I'm not mistaken, Southwick Theatre is private, right? Yes, it is. Okay. But it's an important part of this downtown. The point of this slide is it's possible, and I like it a lot, and I'd like to recommend that we do this. As I said last time, for every decision we make, there'll be a backlash decision, and people will say there's not enough parking because this has happened or whatever. I just want to keep that in mind. So it's called a frictionless tech-enabled parking experience, seamless pre-booking, as you had pointed out. We would place signs. We could place signs that night. the theater could play signs that night would be a Suffolk Theater Reserve priority zone we can LPR compliance that with the same system that we have an RFP out with the same system that's also monitoring beaches with the same system that's marking all of our Lots I'm trying very hard not to duplicate services and be smart about this and every time we go into we find more things that's why we're taking a slow measured approach on this there will be be zero gate infrastructure costs with this it would be the same system guaranteed senior access which I heard was extremely important and a scalable framework meaning this same digital system could actually be used in the multi-deck multi-decks being built today don't even have gates they're using fixed LPR cameras this is just an example of what this could look like obviously it's in the front of the theater but I'm just trying to show so that's exactly more what I'm going for I don't want to create just my thought you know a task for we're saying the Suffolk there and I just use them as example absolutely but it could be a local restaurant and I'm one of the things I mentioned last time I always worry you know my mother has difficulty walking distances and so forth so it's more or less like a sign like that but it simply says reserve parking and then you have like space 101 to the left 102 to the right you kind of do them right away but it might simply be that purchase part you know there might be 30 spots and you can say you can park anywhere from 100 to 130 and it's the idea that anybody can go down if I'm taking my mother to a restaurant and I know I want to get as close as I can I would want to have the option to pay a fee and know that there's going to be a spot there so it's not just for the subbie they don't want it you know for all restaurants only I I don't want to have a task where they need to go out and start carting off and putting signs up and then watching their spaces, because then that means you're wearing a carting, of course, for them, for staffing and other things. But if it's just these are, you know, little bullseye spots that just kind of go down that these are, you know, would say on there, you know, prepay in advance or something, and then you know that there's 25 spots there. Because also you can't 101 maybe somebody that didn't leave yet because there's still another restaurant, I paid for one on one at six and my spot is full but there's kind of a zone that's there that you can pay to be close. And then when perhaps the Suffolk Theater, if you want to prepay your ticket in advance, you know, when they go through their cash out, when you're buying your regular theater tickets, there might be a blob there that they can click on that and it'll send you to now our link. So you leave the theater and you come over to our link and you purchase that reserved spot. Right. And it would show a map right where it is. century I'm just trying to take away I don't want to give like local businesses a task to have to go out there and start watching spaces because that's gonna come at a cost to them you know I'm saying I do that's my idea we've all experienced going to the Jets or the Mets game where it's overpriced by the way but you you know you're going to one central parking lot you're you're prepaying and you're getting in QR code you're in the challenge here is let's take the second street lot or the first street lot the large lot we can't dedicate that lot to what we just talked about we can only dedicate a part of that lot and so if you have events that are a lot of people are coming down you have people pulling into the space because they don't know or they don't care so it's it's it's challenging in that if we had a dedicated parking lot this becomes a lot easier okay so we have a lot here to suggest and to work on in the future and the point of why I'd like this township this downtown to be digitized is you can change these policies at will and you can make signs that are just not implanted permanently and we can change on a dime and I'd really like us to be able to be able to do that there's voucher systems to electronically if you're at a restaurant right they'll pay for your parking yes we have plan that validation system so that way you don't have to worry that you're in a designated area it's just that the restaurant in conjunction with the parking system will will pay or voucher you for having used that restaurant pay the parking fee or there won't be a parking fee for that absolutely and that would be up to each restaurant owner to say and you know i always say if i owned a restaurant i'd pay all day long five dollars to get a 200 check that's right all day long i would put it on social media come park for free on us if people are educated to that they'll do it if they take a negative approach they won't do it um so we suggest in that in that case you survey the restaurants i mean instead of going one to one have the bids survey the restaurants which ones would participate and would want to participate so that you get a global sense of downtown as opposed to coming up with ideas and see if they like it or not and it's the larger restaurants in theaters that we're speaking about and i'll use ben and jerry's as an example um he's most likely going to get the after restaurant welcome crowd so probably would not be needed or interested in doing that um it's it's the major restaurants that could do that and their survey is great but basically when the plan is rolled out it's presented to them if they like to do it it's called parking validation the theater i look at a little different because I'm not mistaken it's what 300 people 400 people that can go in this theater different situation very different so you got what's the rule is three people three people a car that's if you get 600 you get 200 cars probably not for show it'll probably be a single or two deuce in that car maybe sometimes for good point though so in this case we would not scan every car entering that large parking lot we would simply dedicate a row or rows to that and uh the chief knows this he'd have the alpr come by and this would only be two 11 o'clock whatever time a show is then people can have at it what they like so great point it's got to be figured into the to the plan i am strongly suggesting and respectfully uh suggesting we could uh we could could use three more sessions just on the parking utilization plan and specifically today we're talking about draft talking points and want to use that word draft a lot so that the people in the public pick up that we're talking about things. We'll talk about managed paid parking, updates on enforcement and the permitting RFP process. The next three that I'd like to see is the concept of PILOP which is very very parking in lieu of payment in lieu of parking we'll get to a little later parking district has concerns here they've sent sporadic letters to this board to myself to you the parking district is suggesting that the hotel operator attend the next parking district uh committee meeting on the 24th of september that's number one suggestion we are suggesting that the parsed parking district whole concerns are addressed at one particular work session that's that's how varied and deep it is and I don't want to just want off something here I'd rather than be at the table if you'll have them if you'll have them okay but I do think that hey they have a wide variety of things that they're talking about in the future sure right and so I think it would be important to really sort of cordon off what you're We're going to talk about and make sure the board was prepared with those topics so that they could understand what was being discussed and asked of them. I agree completely. I don't feel that the parking committee should be singling out any one particular entity. It's a parking district, and we have to create a plan on a whole. So to invite one person in or one restaurant, one hotel, it seems more like we're giving preference to somebody. And I think that we're creating a generalized plan downtown that should have options to accommodate as many and potentially all businesses as possible. I think in the plan also, like we've said before, it has to go out to these other places. So there may be something that they get swept up in. But Denise is in constant communication with them, right, Denise? Well, we have definitely our monthly meetings. And based upon the different requests that they've had, we've had action. with regard to the two lots specifically that they were looking for. They have a plan. They have their own plan for what they wanted, which I've given to our consultant, and it's our consultant's plan ultimately that we're going to be guided by. He will try to utilize whatever ideas they have if they work for your plan, but it's not that we're adopting the parking committee's plan for parking. Correct? just one concern that pops out is the 96 or so spaces that have been mentioned for the hotel so I think that seems to be a very important point of interest for the parking committee it is and that's like to your point well that's one entity in in all of us so it's it's an overall plan it's not geared towards one group or one committee or one business we're trying to get a handle on all of it my point is to absolutely just transparently flush it out I'm respectfully suggesting that one of these sessions are dedicated to flushing that out that's all I'm saying and then we can decide what's in the future right for a long time we talked about a multi-deck which is in the future and I think it you know we're here and now as to what can happen the idea is to help the businesses now parking district advisory committee is floating some good ideas right now I think which I was encouraged to see but I think those are the those ideas and the need for parking you know particularly until we have the garage is going to be an ongoing conversation it would be good to hear as you say all of their concerns and their suggestions you using your professional background sort of call those things and make sure that the board is getting the most optimum plan and not as you say singling out anybody in particular because that is just one of many things that are kind of floating out there that can be because there's also the Chamber of Commerce there's the bed it's not just the parking committee and this residents there's apartments with residents there's you know lots of different things to consider it's not just there's not there's not just one thing that's that's creating the need and the the I mean we've been working literally working on a parking plan since 2018 so it's not a new concept but as you can see you know you start out at 100,000 feet you just dial it down to where we are now which is you know the real detail that that that will cause some people concern and you know those Just to understand those concerns, all of them, make a plan, and then start floating the plan. I will just say one other thing that I did think was a very productive point at the last parking committee meeting, and I bring it to the board, that they wanted the chief, when he does his monthly reports for crimes, they wanted to him also report on parking enforcement tickets, how many tickets were issued. So I asked the board if that's something that you would like the police department to do a monthly report. When he brings in the arrests and different crimes and such, I like the idea, too, that they wanted to see a monthly report on parking enforcement. You can definitely ask him to do that. So my experience in government, and this isn't negative, it's just the truth, but these silos start to build, right? And so it's very rare that all council people and the supervisor, recreation, the police captain, all are in the same room just to make sure that everything is stretched out. And I don't want anybody to say, but you didn't think about me in this situation. That's all. The most important thing, and I appreciate you following up on my questions and doing due diligence. I appreciate that. The most important thing is that we're creating a walkability downtown. And so when we are doing all these parking spaces, it's the urgent needs or the more short-term, the restaurants, the businesses. If I'm staying at a hotel, my personal feelings is that I will probably be further distance away towards that free parking because maybe I'll be here for two days or three days as a guest if I'm traveling somewhere. But the restaurants that need the consistent turnover, that the table is changing every hour, those need to be close by. Have we talked to the hotels up on 58 about shuttle service to downtown so that if people are staying there, they don't then come to park downtown, that they would do a shuttle? I have that coming up. The fourth suggested, and I feel this is almost a minimum, today being number one, pile up parking district concerns. The fourth being lots of improvement, striping, micro shuttle service will get into budgets, finance projections, and other things. the realities and some of the things that have missed me personally with hundreds of thousands of dollars in the parking district bank but yet the striping of the lot at the river is non-existent so if it's missing me it's got a myth this slide was last time this perfect and 33 is not accurate but it's just to show you that parking policies technology enforcement will get us through this for a parking management program the same Schwartz 2020 strategic parking plan we have a small history lesson here key takeaways there is sufficient supply in Riverhead and I would say this is overwhelmingly positive

we'll be talking key takeaways and again I want to summarize this is that there's really not a quote parking problem in Riverhead you have more parking than just about any municipality I know parking utilization has been a problem it was detailed I've detailed it in 2025 I will read detail it in the final so sufficient supply not always equitable and where people are parking right that's what that says what that talks about enforcement and behavioral misalignment there there has been this is not the disparity any department or any employee there's that there's been a lack of consistent dedicated enforcement We know that that's at the core of the foundation what I'm trying to construct here Employee parking abuse. Let's face it employees late for work all employees are late for work They got to be there at 12 o'clock to get there at 12 o 5 they park as close as they can to the restaurant That's a fact that's true. They're not likely to do that. There's paid parking next to that restaurant So the core recommendations in that strategic plan was to establish a park once district promote cross shopping and walkability by encouraging visit parking to park at one central location complete multiple errands on foot more about that later employee parking permit program this is this is yet to be exactly designed but we know that we think we want employees to have the opportunity to get a permit or go to a lot that allows in the park for free the good news is and we'll get to this in a subsequent slide everything is walkable here it truly is it's not it's not a crazy amount of walking for an employee to get there and park for free. I believe strongly in shared parking agreements. I have, I have just the other day, you know, located a lot. I'm like, wow, this lot is free and vacant 90% of the time. It's used like Sunday mornings. That's it. Behind the court, behind the church, the one that connects East Avenue to Maple. Exactly. We used to lease that piece and then And we just declined to use it. But there are other shared options that are nighttime, you know, banks. So, you know, people come into town. They don't know. Is this private? Am I going to get a ticket? What do I do? So let's encourage, you know, getting these partnerships so we really have the totality of parking spaces. Keep in mind one thing, Kevin. When you talk about, you know, employees, one of the things that this goes back. but they don't want to come out of the restaurant at midnight and then walk into a desolate zone. You know, I mean, just keep that in mind. Yes. More about that later. I agree with what you're saying. One quick thing. You had mentioned the micro shuttle service. Has that started with the theater? We did a test of it last summer. I'm getting to that as well. 2020 strategic parking plan. I'm just trying to pull out the meat and potatoes of this. Targeted pricing strategy. They wanted to introduce paid parking to you in 2020. We had a little something called a pandemic there that probably stopped that. Reinvest in parking revenues. This happens or should happen all the time. When there is paid parking, there should be great lighting. There should be great striping. There should be a feeling of safety. That has to happen. Modern enforcement tools. We know about what we're working about. on that, that foundational point, which to me happens even before the parking utilization plan. Wayfinding and signage, we have some great signage, thanks to Dawn. If you look at the Riverside, I love the fanciful signage. I just would like to see it consistent, and I'd like to see really smart usage of riders. Let's dedicate a whole session to this, upgrade paving, striping, and things like that. people are paying for parking they expect those things page six of the 2020 strategic parking plan this is a screenshot in an effort to balance parking demand and encourage parkers to use the system its entirety parking management strategy could be used to shift the demand to some downtowns more underutilized areas parking lots that they're talking about so they encouraged and recommended paid parking back in 2020. what i'm showing on this slide is the future of the the parking utilization plan. And again, draft, please, just for talking points only that your prime parking lots are one, two, and four. There's just absolutely no doubt about it. They're great parking lots. They're centrally located to the back of the buildings. What you see in the yellow there, it might be tough to see, but I'll circle it if you can see this, is these wonderful egresses that are, and I put the number of steps, actually walk this, 40, 70, this is incredibly convenient. Urban planners have said that people are willing to walk a quarter mile to go to their destination. We're walking 40 and 70 steps from prime parking lots. This is fantastic. I think people don't realize, too, and I think it's like 1,500 feet people will walk. They need a destination to walk to, and then they'll go. But the distance from town hall parking to Main Street is around 400 steps. And then the time it takes to walk from the railroad street parking lot to the aquarium is 10 minutes total. It's seven minutes to any of the main business district areas, not a long. And it's all sidewalked and lighted, and it will get better with the raised grant improvements. Right with Streetscape. Yes, exactly. And the whole idea is if people are walking, they'll go to shops. But I think the dilemma we've had is a chicken and the egg problem because the destinations were limited. And people didn't really feel compelled to walk. But what we noticed years ago was if you stand on the corner of Ostrander Avenue and Main Street long enough, you'll see a steady stream of strollers and families walking up and down to go to the aquarium from the Ostrander Avenue parking lot. that, the Aquarium home. The sanded lots? Yeah, so our goal was how do we get them to walk west? And that's how we started with our downtown revitalization planning, because there's plenty of people here, plenty of parking. We just need to get them going places. Absolutely. The gray circle you see here is just, I mean, you know, someone would say the Aquarium might be the center of the action, but ultimately we know that that Town Square, Suffolk Theater, the Vail Levitt, It's a wonderful future, and that concentric circle just shows exactly why that's prime parking. The orange would be, again, draft, free outlying employee parking or visitor parking, people that didn't want to pay or that regard. Again, this is not final. The shared parking, we have to talk about that. People really shouldn't be encouraged to use the court parking lot in the middle of the day. They should be encouraged to use it after hours. And what's not on this map yet is the shared parking agreements that could come, which would only embellish the situation here. Not addressed in the 2020 plan at all was pileup. I do want to dedicate a whole session to this. You know, there'll be a certain amount that developers would pay in these easy, you know, best way to describe it is phantom spaces for developers who can accommodate parking on site. this absolutely deserves its own work session just for residential development not for commercial yep um i list some of the urban planning benefits right we we do want to end up with the downtown walkability uh plan people tend to compare us or want to compare us to a porch everson or a patch hog. Ultimately, I think this downtown will get there. I don't think it's there yet. And I say that not because I'm giving you my opinion. I say that because I speak to people from Steve of Ben and Jerry's who invested in this town because he believes it's going to get there. But he's saying to me when I speak to him, he says, look, and there's got to be scenarios here and the chamber could help here. You come to downtown Riverhead what can you do for three to five hours? You know Steve saying maybe there's maybe there's not quite that three to five hour period but there could be there could be a day in Aquaria there could be a restaurant a dinner there could be a walk along the river there could be the Times Square situation it could be all these wonderful things that create a four to five hour parking. These are the things they are doing now in the chamber the barbecue and whiskey the Halloween costume contest concerts in the park so they are creating these 1 to 5 p.m. events 10 to 5 p.m. and another one these they're all that's what they're trying to do now I don't know if you see these I have seen these and and this is great this is event based stuff we want downtown Riverhead to be destination on a Friday night period nothing that would be that would be be initiative of the bid because that the businesses pay into the bid you need to speak to the bid about that you know the chamber covers the entire town from here to Calvertown the bid focuses on downtown simple you know QR codes or kiosks throughout the downtown we've talked about that about putting them right in town square and having that the aquarium net you come out of the aquarium and now it's it's one o'clock it's back a few hours there you scan the kiosk barcode you know the QR code gives you okay to bring you right up events today downtown you should be able to look at restaurants like what you want maybe pick up a coupon or something of that nature and really to create the whole walkability going down there but it's just about having like a organized website that's continuously updated whether it be by the bid list but I've been strongly advocating that I think at some point you know when the downtown town square is done that we do need like you know assigned recreation director of events you know for downtown that you somebody's that's updating that you get out you scan that QR code and like oh there's a show tonight anyway we're here for the aquarium it's that we can get lunch and I didn't realize look what's playing at the theater, look what's going on here, what's over at Vale Lab. And it's with the technology of phones, the phones are walking media tools, and we've just got to put them to use. And that's great. I find that in life people, we're in an experience economy, and people come to a place, they have a good experience, they tell somebody else. That's just reality more than anything. And, you know, we'll get there. Not mentioned in the 2020 plan was the downtown shuttle, The downtown visitor shuttle, which, you know, you could argue should be active today with all the construction and whatnot, but certainly should be active during the rebirth of what's happening in Town Square. It maximizes assisting assets, relieves core traffic congestion. That is absolutely true. In my mind, it should be free. Why should it be free? Because paid parking should pay for this. And this should not be a big bus or trolley. this should probably be a micro electric, you know, let's be cool, let's do it right, you know what I mean, and just get people around town when they need to be. And I have something coming up. We met with Chris Diamond probably four years ago. He does the program down in South Hampton Village called Free Rides. Yeah. But it's really neat. They're kind of like elongated golf carts where you can get six people in there. There's a television in each row. Yeah. And same thing. You can scan QR codes. You can get coupons on that. It's all the restaurants in town advertise on his site, Free Ride. So the restaurants, the local businesses are paying that, and he takes them right to their door. And then from there, you can go all the way. You're in South Ham Village, you can go all the way up to Cooper's Beach, Lake Agawam, and come all the way back. And it doesn't matter where you park because they're there just doing circles. Here's what we found with those little golf cart type things. They feel very vacation-like. And they ultimately went away in Patchogue and Port Jefferson. If I could skip right to something like this, this is, you know, obviously exaggerated. But this type of van where an older person would feel confident getting into it, you know, something like this, 10 to 12 passengers that could get around electric in nature, really also having the bid be a big part of getting this recognized and branding but the point is just probably this size and not a cart I think the cart weather related and other things I think it's very good in the Hamptons and I think there's a reason why it's gone out of the towns that we all know that the car like structure it's driving down there and because it's easy in and out people don't feel trapped so that that last line utilizing a 12-faceted micro shuttle display exclusively on high volume days so this doesn't have to be seven days a week you know we could we could examine this being uh what do we say 4 p.m to 10 p.m 4 p.m to 11 p.m on a thursday friday saturday that type of thing keeping costs down but you know that that fourth meeting that we have you know we really should talk about okay where does the money come from paying for this because it should be free in my in my mind it should be subsidized um and there you know there are a few different options on that I'm going to emphasize this is draft talking points only. Future dated, paid managed parking and prime downtown lots could look like this, right? So we want to get to the walkable downtown value engine, right? Park once. People don't mind paying for parking if they feel there's value in what they're doing. Value is their proximity to the action, proximity to their favorite restaurant, proximity to what we call the walkable main street. they don't mind paying they they don't like change we had a very big example of this in Port Jefferson where they changed the rates three or four times during the year because we know the reasons why and that didn't sit well with people but guess what they're doing record numbers it almost doesn't matter right the Port Jeff there's great restaurants there there's the waterfront there's entertainment and and that that is self-serve itself so paid parking could be viewed as an amenity. I'll just read this. Motors resent paying for parking when the surrounding environment is sparse, uninspiring. There are nights right now in Riverhead where people have talked about that. This is what we're looking to change. It's all coming together. They're getting guaranteed approximate access directly into the bustling downtown. And then this is really important, the reinvestment of those funds from parking to the lighting that makes employees feel safe, to the striping, to the technology. Just showing that again, that proximity with the walkability. I think to go back to that, if you could go back for a second. This one over here. This one right here. Okay. Where you have your map that goes up, I would really love for you to include with your shuttle idea and with the parking Polish Town. Because as we look to revitalize that, as we look to really boost that and the parking in there and, you know, making sure that those businesses over there are able to flourish. Because there's so much for people to see from 2nd Street. We have two breweries and tasting rooms there, you know, up in that area that we just want to create this circular motion where you're asking for people to stay three to five hours. Well, if they can go visit, you know, a great telly or, you know, a shop from West Main Street down. So the Historical Society, all those areas. But, yeah, I just definitely want that included if it could be. Great feedback. Eventually on those streets, so like Main Street, I'd like to see it striped on your maps that it's in the orange that it's free. You know what I mean? We can park for free right on Main Street. There may be time limits, but to go get ice cream, I don't need to go and buy a parking space. If I got something there for 30 minutes, I'm happy. And so that needs to all be shown, even the simplest of parking on Main Street. Absolutely. So in lot five, for example, I just passed it as I got here. Again, working wonderfully. I know people have opinions about that, but there are spaces there, and that now makes sense to me, what we did there. So if we were to offer free parking, there's policies that are put in place that are timed. That's the policy. The paid parking takes care of itself by the policy itself, and I'm going to get into that right here. As long as you have the enforcement technology for the police to utilize. So if we take lots 1, 2, and 4, and we transpose this into some draft projections, 1, 2, and 4, this is approximate, are 608 total spaces that would be turned onto paid parking spaces. Out of a total of, and again, this accounts within 100 or so, 2,881 total downtown riverhead parking spaces. We are talking about lighting up as a draft proposal only 21% of space is going to paid. 79% of those who have had parking spaces would be free year-round. Add to that a draft recommendation would be to just go from May 1st to October 31st, completely negating bad weather for parking, for paid parking. So, 608 spaces in three lots that have great proximity with paid parking hours between 11 a.m. and 9 p.m., 10 hours a day, seven days a week, with a rate that is below every municipality that we know, either $1.25 or $1.50, brings us to some mathematics. 600 spaces, 10 hours a day, 184 days, that's 1,118,000 potential space hours. And I think it's really important to look at that. I remember I talked a few sessions ago about parking as an asset. Let's please make sure that we all understand these are assets. Can you go back to the previous slide so we can look at lots one, two, and four? I'm the one before that. So lot two is where a lot of people, they park who live in, what is it, Summerwind? Did I have that right? Two. Four. No, four is the people. Four is Summerwind. oh for a summer yes okay so they would park free all night long from 9 p.m to 11 a.m so that means they have to move their car they have to make sure that they they got to go from a free spot move their car at 9 p.m to park for free she was behind diggers no they would they would about somewhere before after 11 a.m in the morning they would have to if they were going to leave their car there during the day when most people would be technically working that would be the objective right so if you didn't go to work till 11 you can leave your car there and then at 11 if you intended to stay home during the day you would have to relocate your car and you can put it back there at 9 p.m. and park free all night long unless you wanted to pay to park in that lot yeah I'll tell you what I'm concerned about right now is that we've taken you know with all the construction we've taken so many spaces away i'd like to address that i think councilman rothwell had a great idea i don't know when we're going to do it but striping and parallel parking on heidi bear way to get some of those spaces back which i think needs to be done sooner than later i got to really digest the rest of it you know i mean it's i don't know people are going to be comfortable moving their car all during the day and the night so there's 50 units in that building so maybe out of that 170 spaces there could be carved out an area where they buy a permit to stay there that would be their spot but what about now how do we deal with employees people that are employed uh in businesses downtown with that lot you talked about they would have some sort of permit so yet to be determined I would like that in place before employees could have paid parking permits business owners could have free or included parking permits right to maybe a business is what I've experienced I think the idea is this if Town Square turns out the way we all want it to be that parking is going to be needed for visitors more than anything right but as Dawn pointed out there's got to be a plan for residents that are using public parking it's not when we're developing downtown you call it a square the playground why don't why are we looking focusing on getting a paid parking structure built we are no but i mean i would be looking at doing that sooner than later is where i'm going we've been allocating funds towards it through grand processes we're close to the the park new parking garage will add a few hundred spaces to the total inventory be very proximate to downtown so we should we expect that contract as soon as we get the contract we could design it we could not spend any of the parking money any of the money whether it be grant funds or match funds on that funding source. We expect it potentially next week. Once that contract is sent to us, it would be signed, and then it would be completed at the end of September, potentially. No guarantees. We've been waiting for over two years for this contract. But this is what we're hearing from the federal government. Once that happens, we have $2 million available at our disposal to design it from the county of Suffolk, we can immediately launch the design. That contract is signed. Once we have the design, it'll take a little bit of time to design, and you'll have some decisions to make about whether you want cast in place or you want modular, how many exact spaces you want. That has never been settled. And we intended for this timing to work and had this particular grant doesn't allow you to expend any of the funding, whether it be match or not, because in a perfect world, we could have taken the $2 million that the County of Suffolk provided to us for this project and designed it already, gotten the grant contract for the federal money, and bid the job. So it would have been under construction already, but that's just not how that funding works. It's just the way it is, and it is how it goes. But there's other potential to put structures in downtown too. And, you know, if you look at Kevin's revenue projections just for those three lots, you're a million, close to a million and a half dollars annually in just paid parking, not including any enforcement fees, which could fund a bond to... Right, and I get that. What I'm getting at is that that's with, you know, but if you've got 20 employees a day, you know what I mean? We don't know the answer to that question. You're saying that if everybody parked and paid, but I have no idea of how many employees are going to be permitted there, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. We have direct feedback surveys, which I'll send you the links on, of people that actually spoke directly in the survey about their views and their challenges with parking in Summerwind. That's one, and we should reanalyze that and look at those. They're publicly available, by the way. Secondly, think about the veil, right? what did i what did i say about uh you know for every decision right so think about the veil coming into town they really need that parking lot don't they they really need that parking they do given the age of the people that go to see jazz i would definitely agree with you that's okay well there's still some young people that go too don't um so your residents your visitors your town your town square is blossoming there there's there's an octopus of needs here But nothing that can't be done. I see you looking into the future. I get it. I'm just going to mention one other thing, too. We are acquiring, we're just about to acquire, the 111 East Main. And we want a family-friendly venue over in that side of the town square, which is going to require that parking lot for the day and into the evening. So that's not going to be a place necessarily just for residents. And ultimately lot four is a parking lot that floods on a regular basis, which needs to be rectified. And there is potential to rectify it using a structure that includes additional structured parking. But it would create that flood wall that we need there, provide additional parking, and help clean up the area behind the Vale, Mugs on Main, and all those areas and make that an actual place where people feel happy to walk and visit the backs of those places. Because I think one of my favorite restaurants is Dark Horse. The only place you can park, you can't even park on Main Street. Even if you could park there, there's no spaces in front of that building. but the only real parking is, and most of the time we take the boat, so that's easy, but the parking directly behind there, and if you wanted to go there for lunch or go to Mugs on Main for breakfast, if that lot is fully occupied by residents staying there all day, you've really squandered a large area of prime parking. So to maximize the opportunity in that lot is something that really needs to be thought about, in the long term. And we've been thinking about it, particularly the flood mitigation piece, which is essential to the riverfront flood mitigation that we're doing with the town square. But potentially, if you structured parking there, you could add permitted spaces for the residents of Summerwind who would then not have to be in the rain and snow and sleet and get their cars plowed in when the plows go through the lot, have safety and security in there. And so that may be of value to those residents to have that. So what I'm hearing from people in the restaurants on that row and across the street, we have East End Disability, we have Diggers, all those people continue to talk about this advancement. It's just they're worried, and it's what they're hearing or what they're, the narrative that's being created. So I think, as you said, to continue to come in here and to sit down and make sure that we're mapping this out, make sure we're talking to them because of the fact that they need to be successful. And they don't want to leave, as I think Bob or Ken said, at 12 o'clock and have to walk three blocks. It's just not something, you know, they're worried about it. You know, and across the street where you have a disability association, they have a lot of people coming in with handicapped parking. I just I think that the more we can continue to express that behind the Suffolk Community College You know that entire building we have a lot of parking, but we need to make sure that we're we're laying this out Well, and I think you said it. You know we need to make sure that we're doing a campaign for that as far as you know A part, you know We said we'd be happy to create a parking problem We're almost there I want to finish this illustration. So approximately 608 spaces in those three spots, 20% of the totality. But I'm advocating here that this is, you know, we're a four-season community here in New York, Long Island, right? So May 1st to October 31st, there are many communities that are now 365 days. To be very honest, there are communities that are filling their budget gaps through parking because they don't know any other way, right? So this is reasonable to go from May 1st to October 31st in those weathers, and then all bets are off, all lots are open after October 31st all the way through the end of April. So when we talk about the 1,118,000 possible potential space hours at $1.25 an hour, which again would be the lowest rate of all the communities you know, Greenport is $3.50 an hour. And again, just saying it the other way, parking would be free November through April, through the holidays, through the cold months. And I think we should take the conservative model here, by the way. Thirty percent of that utilization would bring in $419,000. And then you see the moderate and the optimistic, aggressive seasonal utilization anywhere from 400 000 to 839 000 in revenues yearly um and it's a half a year um at a dollar 25 an hour at a dollar 50 an hour uh we're from 500 000 to 1 million dollars and my notes on the bottom say um these rates because of the technology i'd like to see in use here could change on a dime and whatever what do i mean by that we could uh do parking validation with restaurants where people would pay nothing we We can do coupons where people would pay discount because they're seniors. We can do anything we want once we're digital. And can you also do free parking for events? 100%. Like suspend all paid parking? I wouldn't recommend it. Forever. That would be the opposite. But, yeah, I mean, there might be certain laws where you do free. Certain events. Yeah. And what I like that Patchogue does a lot is after 6 p.m. it's $5 all night. And why I like that is you're getting a guaranteed rate. You're getting a guaranteed $5. And forget the numbers for a second because we're not here to put numbers in stone, but my point is one flat fee after 6 p.m., which would give a guaranteed rate to the town. And this isn't even covering the parking enforcement that you could do at the beaches. This is totally separate. Of course. Everything comes with that for sure. I presented this last year I wanted to as you know do a test in one lot I still think that would have been a good idea we didn't get to that point but you know this we could be collecting revenue within 30 days I can't tell you enough this is an actual picture of parking lot number one this is actually parking lot number one that could be attached to an existing this would be a steel 12 by 18 and sign uh either scan or text to park you have your riverhead seal there uh you know no no new sign infrastructure you know just really making the landscape you know look as good as possible having somebody that's you know x number of feet tall just being able to use this we've all used to scan the park or even scan the restaurants it's really easy it's quite quite amazing and the revenue would come in. Does the hacking stuff come down and that kind of stuff, Gavin? I'll say two things about the hacking. I would like to see us employ text-to-park, which would avoid the hacking altogether. So if you didn't want to use scan-to-park, you text-to-park where it comes right to your phone, and then you invoke the parking session. And secondly, your parking enforcement officers, if they do exist or will exist in the future, should routinely check these signs, just as they would check anything else. the lights are working, let's make sure the lights are working, they should check these as well. These are virtual parking meters. There's no other way to look at them. Could you do one? What is it, a kiosk or whatever for individuals that maybe aren't tech savvy? Is there some way for older citizens that, I know we're all getting there if you're not there already, but what about some seniors that just this technology is too much? So parking meters, if we can approach that subject for a second. So parking meters, what I like that we do have is we have these egresses. Matter of fact, everybody knows about the egress that's right below that church peak, this wonderful alleyway that goes to Main Street. So as you exit the parking lot, as you exit your car and you go into the alleyway, that's a perfect place to put a parking meter. Parking meters come in a lot of flavors. The parking meter you're used to is coins in the parking meter. You know, they got rid of the penny. Where is this going, right? The penny's no longer with us, right? So someone has to collect that money. Somebody has to account for that money. Somebody has to audit that money. You're probably going to be charged with the bank to count that money on and on and on and on. So what are meters doing now? They're eliminating coin and just going to cash. What does cash do? It jams. What does cash do? It doesn't give change. I only have a $10 bill on me. God, I've got to pay $10 to park here now. How come we're not using credit cards? That's where I'm going. I'm just giving you that I'm giving you history of the parking thanks for the history lesson yeah yeah well there's a point there because you'll you'll you'll hear older people say why doesn't this take coin so spend 20 seconds talking about that people have credit cards that's where I'm going you know what I mean so where we are now is true tap the park right which isn't much different than what you're looking at except a physical credit card comes up it takes two seconds to tap the park I will show you that next session I can even demonstrate it we are at the end like I said this is this is an octopus of all getting through always like suggestions thank you for your last suggestions communicate them through dawn and council person Merrifield today we did our opening draft talking points on a parking utilization program and future, I spoke about at the beginning, pile up parking district concerns, which I think is important. A lot of improvements, like micro shuttle and those types of things. I think we need more work sessions. The parking committee was talking about a shuttle as well. On and off through the seasons, we've been talking about that with them as well. Also, I think because of the construction, it would be important to have a shuttle that people understand and know how to use and then they don't have to think about construction what might be happening that might prevent them from moving in a particular direction or parking in a particular lot the person current I do have the exact number of spaces that are within these residential apartment buildings and the spaces that we don't have in those residential but that'd be great I just like to see I have the surveys of what each individual in those actual buildings had said to us you know where they work no but no I appreciate that I just would like to get some sense of you know understood and I think it brings us to I have a few more questions I'd like to sit down go over what you did if we can get this slide deck sent to each one of us yeah yeah I'm gonna send it to us today at some point if you could email it over and then that way I can go back in Absolutely. to get some questions to you. Okay. And come back from there. Anybody else have any comments or questions? You didn't mention anything about the monorail system. That's Bay 5. Alright. That said, we'll be moving on. The monorail, there you go. Thanks, Kev. High speed train. Thank you. Thank you both. We go into resolutions. Ask our deputy supervisor to come and walk us through those. I'll see those. Board, is everybody ready? Okay, resolution number one, adopt sewer district capital project number 82619, NYS secure grant infrastructure improvements. Number two, ambulance district budget adjustment for repairs to the armory building. Number three, budget adoption for capital project number 12620, restoration of Wading River Duck Ponds. This amount, as you'll see when we get to resolution number 15, is reflective of the 50% that the town is splitting the cost of the soft cost with the town of Brookhaven, per the intermunicipal agreement. So it's great. It's been moving forward very, very well. Brookhaven has been awesome throughout the collaboration of this project and they're preparing for all the RFPs and work suits The duckpods are moving forward Okay, resolution number four, budget adjustment for replacement of HVAC system at George Young Community Center Number five, sets the fees for the 2026 fall recreation brochure six extends internship for town board councilman Robert Kern the councilman is not the intern it's resolution number seven amends fire prevention fees I'm told by the town attorney's office this resolution can be removed. We will not see that on Tuesday. Resolution number eight appoints an automotive equipment operator to the Highway Department. Number nine changes the status and set salaries of current seasonal employees to call-in employees in the Recreation Department. Number ten accepts the retirement of a police officer Brogan. Number eleven accepts the retirement of a Police Officer Lipinski. Number 12, accepts the retirement of Police Detective Schmidt. Number 13, accepts the retirement of an Account Clerk. Number 14, ratifies the resignation of Fire Marshal 1. Number 15, authorizing an award of contract to M&J Engineering DPC Engineering Assessment for restoration of the of the waiting River Duck Ponds waiting River New York that's what we just referenced number 16 ratifies authorization for the supervisor to execute renewal and amendment agreement for the Riverhead Central School District school resource officer program number 17 I'm told by the CDA office this morning we can pull this resolution number 18 authorize the submission of a letter of intent to execution of contract by the supervisor for operation and maintenance grant program to New York State Environmental Facilities Corporation EFC this is for the pump out reimbursement number 19 ratifies authorization for the Riverhead Police Department to apply for grant funding through the Department of Justice's Office of Community Oriented Policing Services Technology and Equipment Program. And there is no match required for that in the event we're successful. Number 20, authorized town clerk to publish and post notice to consider local law to amend Chapter 289 of the Riverhead Town Code titled Vehicles, Traffic, and Parking Regulations, Article 2, Traffic Regulations. number 21 authorizes town clerk to publish and post notice for public hearing regarding u.s hud community development block grant cdbg 2027 funds that public hearing will take place on tuesday october 6th what does that entail so this is the cdbg funds we do this every year we have the public hearing and the folks from the different groups the community groups I want to be adamant about the fact that when we vote and when we finally vote everybody, that they're done individually the same way we do appointments to town committees as opposed to all ten at once. One resolution with all of them? Yeah, because if there's something you don't want and there's nine out of ten you want and there's one you don't want, you're voting for all ten. And that's become a problem for me in the past. Make sure that the town board gets every application. That implies that we get a copy so we can review. Yeah, get the CDA to do that for us. I believe they all go to the CDA office, but we can certainly reach out to them and ask them to disseminate to the board. To the board, because the board makes sense. Thank you. Okay. Resolution 22 authorizes the town clerk to publish and post notice to bidders for annual emergency maintenance contract hydraulic control valve Riverhead Water District. Number 23 authorizes Town Clerk to publish and post notice to bidders for annual emergency maintenance contract distribution system Riverhead Water District.

Number 24 authorizes Town Clerk to publish and post notice to bidders for annual emergency maintenance contract directional drilling Riverhead Water District. Number 25 authorizes Town Clerk to publish in post notice to bidders for annual emergency maintenance contract electrical Riverhead Water District. Number 26 authorizes Town Clerk to publish in post notice to bidders for annual emergency maintenance contract process control systems Riverhead Water District. Number 27 extends bid 2024 through 27 run pro tonk for highway department grinding of yard waste on site at Southside. Young's Avenue Yard Waste Facility.

Number 28, awards bid for replacement of HVAC system at George Young Community Center. Number 29, extends bid 2024 through 20-22 for well and pump testing for Riverhead Water District. Number 30, extends bid 2025-24, Nunk Proton for fertilizer and long chemicals. Number 31, approved special event chapter 255 application for DMS Apex Holdings LLC, Skip Barber Advanced Auto Cross. Number 32, authorizes designated alcohol service vendor to serve alcohol at the Riverhead Chamber of Commerce concerts in the park. Number 33 authorizes designated alcohol service vendors to serve alcohol at the Village Vibe. Number 34 adopts the Suffolk County 2026 Hazard Mitigation Plan. Number 35 pays the bills. Can we have the town attorney, Eric, if you don't mind, would you come up and just talk about the SRO resolution please kind of fill in where we're at

good morning so following the work session I had a couple conversations with school districts council and for this year for 26 27 school year they They have agreed to pay the $200,000 that they indicated that they budgeted for the SRO program for the school year. And they will endeavor to have meetings between the two boards leading into their budget planning for 27-28 school years so that they can potentially more appropriately budget for the SROs. When is that scheduled for? I'd like to do it, you know. December. We need to do that sooner than later. I'd like to meet with their board and their superintendent so that we're way ahead of the game in those negotiations. Thank you. So this gives them no commitment for any future years at all? No commitment for them and no commitment for us. It's just an extension of the existing agreement for an additional year. The town will have to pick up approximately $150,000 to cover the program? I believe that's the approximate total cost. I would like the public to know that with regard to this particular type of contract with the SROs, with the Riverhead School District and the town, residents in Riverhead that have STAR, school tax exemptions or reductions, that by the town taking this over and the school putting this onto the town, That's something that you normally would have gotten off of your school tax. By the town now taking this charge over, we can now tax residents of the town for this. So I just need the public to be aware of that, that regardless of your school district, even the residents of the Riverhead School District, this is something that normally would have been something that STAR would have encompassed for you. But by the town and the Riverhead School District entering into a contract, this is now something that goes onto your town tax that you don't get any star reduction or tax exemption for. Just want the public aware of that. And also that residents in the Shoreham-Whitting River School District and residents ‑‑ I'm talking ‑‑ are town residents ‑‑ Riverhead town residents ‑‑ in the Shoreham-Whitting River School District ‑‑ and residents in the Matitoc School District ‑‑ that live in the town of Riverhead. This is actually taxation without representation. You could not vote for this or oppose this what the school district did in the Riverhead with the Riverhead School Board but you're being asked to pay it on your town taxes and I just want the public to be aware of that and I oppose this. There have been no discussions or I should say or attempt to pave the pathway photo we're just gonna like this just is gonna be repetitive each year we're going to be debating this again and again we think we're gonna have a conversation thus far this town board has been pretty clear that in order for the program to continue you would expect to have direct communications with the school board in advance of their budget planning for the upcoming school year now whether that looks like a one-year agreement or two-year agreement or three-year agreement I think that's to be determined but that that's one of of the takeaways that I got from the last work session is that you all wanted to have meeting directly with the school board about this in a fashion similar to what happened leading into the 25-26 24-25 agreement but I also thought that we were going to do this and we were going to meet prior to the second half of the year to figure out what they're going to do you know they're going to give us any more money in the second half of this of the year you feel like January you know I mean I would like to meet with them we need to get a sense that we also need to there's other things involved here you know South Hampton is not paying additional money you know to do this I don't want to get I don't want to make the conversation here but let's meet with them sooner than later yeah so you would ask if there's any paving the way when I came back and met with me and just said that we had had the the school board was coming back and they were gonna do that we just said we would set something up sooner than later you know to do it so what is the conversation with school districts attorney which I told everybody was that we would have meetings between the two boards in advance of their budget planning for 2728 I put right in this budget that they will cover the expenses next year to ask them it belongs it's just it's the fairest way to do it we fully supportive of the program we need this program to continue and I will advocate for this program but as councilwoman Merrifield said it belongs in the right tax column and particularly everything that we do is paid for by the taxpayers but it's unfair that that other people within Shore and Wade River School Dishonest are paying for services that are not being rendered to them and the simplest way to do it and the school should acknowledge is that it falls within the school budget it solves all problems money comes from the same people still you know but i just feel that we're they just we're pushing it off another year without without a commitment from them and we want the program i want this program to continue we'll do what we have to do to keep this program operating it's essential for the kids but we've got to bring the school board to the table i know it's essential for the school but it's the school's responsibility it's It's their fiscal responsibility to budget for it, and they deliberately chose not to when they passed their $218 million budget. That's what I'd like to meet in early October. I think the sooner we meet with them, the better, and I don't want their attorney there. I mean, I want to do it the way we did it last time with this board, the representatives from the school board, and the superintendent. I thought they were very productive meetings. The only thing I would disagree with, Bob, is the fact that they made a commitment, did it in an executive session, and they backed out of that commitment. I think they should be sitting here at the table before the general public, letting the people know what their intentions are in the future. I like that. Because of the agreement you had after the last round? Yeah. Okay. All right, well, they declined that, so they didn't follow through on what was their promises, their commitments. And so, and all those people that sat in that room, none of them returned to this table. You're right. And whatever form you want, I just want to have it sooner than later. Okay. So we'll express. Eric, if you could lay that out to them and then get that on the books, we'll schedule that. Thanks. Thank you, sir. All right. With that in mind, if there's nothing else, then we'll move into, I have a motion to move into executive session in just a second, where we'll discuss personal matters, matters surrounding change in status of an employee with myself and Striplin Teo, legal matters surrounding acquisition of real property with Councilman Waski and Councilor Hurley, matters surrounding acquisition of real property with Councilman Kern, Councilman Rothwell, and our Councilor Howard, Matter surrounding disposition of real property with myself, Councilman Kern, Thomas, and Baldonucci. Contractual matters. Matter surrounding agreement for document and electronic scanning services with DiApolo, Thomas, Kreinberg, and Baldonucci. Matter surrounding contractual agreement with an employee with our IT department, Kreinberg and Thomas. And matter surrounding litigation with Tanger, with Tannenberg, Lipinski, Brown, and Howard. May I have a motion to go to exec? So moved. All in favor? Thank you.