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Thank you. Thank you. Today is Tuesday, July 2nd, 2024, and we're here for a town board meeting. If we could all rise for the pledge. And, Mr. Marsh, would you mind leading us in the... Denise, lead us in the pledge. Please. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Denise. Okay, today we have for our invocation, we have the Reverend Dr. Sean B. Murray of the First Congressional Church. Close. It's close. It's congregational. What did I say? Congressional. And we get it all the time. You cannot... Now? We get that all of the time. That's a big no-no. Well, I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised from where you're coming from. But, you know, the phone company, the electric company, the post office, come on. Anyway, hi. Nice to see you. Nice to see you. And it's good to be here. So we open our hearts in prayer and praise. Oh, good and gracious God, God of the mountains and of the rivers, of the stars and the seas, God of our hearts, we give you thanks for the gift of the earth, the gift of our town, for times of celebration, nations and dependents. We give you thanks for your guidance and wisdom. And indeed, oh God, we do pray for wisdom. Fall afresh on all who are here, oh God, and guide us in conversation and understanding, and in improvement, for one and for all. Bless us, oh God, and refresh us in your spirit. In your name we pray, amen. Amen. Thank you, Reverend Murray. You're welcome. Have a great meeting. Thank you. I'm going to go catch up to a garden.
Okay, today we are, we're honored to be able to hand awards out to the Rivette High School CAP Program. We have our recently graduated seniors that worked for the CAP Program in mentoring and guiding the younger students in the district. And they've grown up and graduated on us and going to be leaving the CAP Program. So we just kind of wanted to honor you for all the hard work and the volunteerism that you've done. It means a lot, as you know, when you were younger, looking up to an older student, whether it be on a sports team, whether it be a CAP Program or in band or whatever, you looked up to an older student for guidance and you said to yourself, maybe, hey, I want to be like that. And to our CAP volunteers to go out and help the younger students like that, it's a tremendous asset for us, for the town, for the school district, and we appreciate all that you did. Councilman Merrifield, do you have anything you want to add? Yes, I just want to say thank you for all your hard work and help. Successful programs like the CAP March, the VAMP, the VAPE scam, all these different things that you're involved with and mentoring the younger students in your school. We can't thank you enough for all your mentoring and big brother, big sister approach to help the younger kids. Thank you very much. Absolutely. All right, we're going to come down front. Town Board will go down in the front and hand out the certificates of recognition.
Okay, want to call your name out? Come on up and just stay standing up there and we'll get group shots when everybody's completed. Tiana Atkins.
Congratulations. Simon Luccarelli-Senth.
Aiden Reynolds.
Congratulations, Aiden. Paranva Gunsinghan. I apologize if that's off.
Congratulations. Isaac Lopez Amaya.
Congratulations, Isaac. Are we going to St. John's University by any chance? Good for you. Great school. Great school. Alexandra Santoro. Daniela Flores Hernandez.
Congratulations. Jack McCormack.
Congratulations, Jack. Jackson Redman. Okay. Summer's américana. busy, we understand that. But congratulations on the graduates. Congratulations on your next endeavors. What you did with CAP will always look fantastic on a resume, so keep that in mind. And we appreciate everything that you did to help our younger students. So a round of applause for all of our top college students.
The board members may want to scooch in. Now, if you can, like, yeah. Maybe, can, like, you guys come forward a little and have the board members go behind you so you... Step it up. Otherwise, we'll have to go to the back. Step up. There you go. We'll scooch in behind you. That's better. Cool. I'm going to give everyone one shot. Mr. Carter, if you could just move a little to your right, please. Thank you. Now we can see you. Okay. Thanks so much. One minute. Oh, excuse me. Okay. Great.
Thank you. Congratulations. Congratulations. Great job.
And, Supervisor, I just wanted... I failed to mention. I wanted special thanks to their mentor and their leader, Isabella Martucci. Absolutely. Thank you. [transcription gap] Okay. I have a couple of announcements to go over before we get started. I'll start out with the bad. So with great sadness. We recognize. The following who have passed in the last week. Number one, we have an employee here for the town of Riverhead. Dennis Kropsky passed on. And our thoughts and prayers are certainly with him and his family. And local businessman and president of Townscape, Jim Warner of Warner Nursery. So we send out our condolences to their families and keep them in your thoughts and prayers. Thursday, July 4th, Riverhead Town Hall will be closed for this week. Thank you. Thank you so much. everyone be safe and enjoy and I noticed just a little while ago rev ed local has an article up on the use of fireworks and how many fingers get blown off every year and all that good stuff so let the experts do it we have a live on 25 this weekend on Friday night I think this shows at the racetrack it shows up at the Bading Hollow Club and all around so let the experts do it enjoy them sit back and don't mess with them on Thursday July 4th Independence Day commemoration at Jamesport Honor Garden and gazebo join the Greater James what Civic Association for the sixth annual Independence Day ceremony on July 4th starting at 10 a.m. this event taking place by the gazebo at the corner of Main Road and South Jamesport Avenue and Jamesport and it's the only official Independence Day commemoration in the town of Riverhead Friday night as I mentioned live on 25 starts at 5 o'clock the fireworks will be at 9 o'clock there will be two shows this year the second one will be on August 9th and that will have a laser light show attached to it as a reminder there will be a public information session on Wednesday July 10th right here in the Town Hall building for the Riverhead Town Square and Riverfront adaptive children's playground in addition to the ! !
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The first one is a local law to amend chapter 301 zoning and land development. And that is scheduled for two o'clock. It is now 214. So Mr. Matt Charters, if you would be willing to lead the way on this, we'd appreciate it. Absolutely. And if I could just make a recommendation that we hold the first two open at the same time, because they're interrelated. One's a definition and one is an actual code change. Okay. So we're going to open the second public hearing now also at 214. And that's a local law to amend. Chapter 301 zoning and land development dealing with definitions, I believe. All right. So today we're going to learn about something new for most people. How's that, Bob? Good. I should always check with you first. So satellite earth station. So the first thing I'll go through is the definitions that's going to be added to the code. I'll touch on why this is important for the town and then move on to, you know, I'll touch on the code itself. Okay. So a satellite earth station, a station and or facility located either on the earth surface or within the major portion of the earth, atmosphere intended for communication with one or more stations of the same kind by means or one or more reflecting satellites or other extraterrestrial objects in space. What's that mean? So that's what most people can think of now is for an internet service provider to provide that via satellite. So essentially there's a station on the earth surface reflects off the satellite, then gets beamed to your house. Why this is important for the town because pursuant to federal law. So that's 47 CFR. Section 25.104 for everyone who's listening to that federal regulation gives these end users, end users the ability to circumvent local zoning and preempt it. So if there's not a regulation on the books, this they would be essentially allowed to develop it within the town. This federal law does give towns and other municipalities the ability to regulate these for specific reasons. So the first is if they have a clear clearly defined health, safety or establishment of a facility within the town. And then the third is if they have a clearly defined health, safety or system under améric head system under améric head the text of the regulation itself and that too it furthers the stated health safety or aesthetic objective without unnecessarily burdening the federal interests in ensuring access to satellite services in promoting fair and effective competition among competing communications services providers. With that being said, the most logical place to sort of buttress this into our code is our existing wireless communication towers and antennas code. So that deals with cell towers. They're very similar, but they're regulated differently federally, so that's why they're considered two different things. But in terms of our regulation, it makes the most sense to put them here. So it kind of adds that right into the legislative intent because we're dealing with the same thing. Aesthetics, where to put them, the density, how they're screened, things like that. So in 301.274, that'll be amended to permit these uses by special permit only in industrial A, industrial C, PIP, and the PD zoning use districts. And then if you flip through the code, there are examples. So a residential satellite earth station, so that's a satellite dish on your house, as long as it's less than two meters, it'll be exempt from this code. And then moving on to page six of the code is kind of where you get into the real meat and potatoes of things, which again mirrors our wireless code. You can go through a couple of those if you'd like. So it starts at number two, special permit. So we want to see the proximity of satellite earth stations to residential structures and residential district boundaries, the natures of the existing or proposed uses adjacent to these properties where a satellite earth station is going to be, surrounding topography, surrounding tree cover, things like that. They'll have to demonstrate that there's a reasonable need for one of these uses within the town. In terms of setbacks, they'll have to meet those minimum zoning setbacks for a principal structure in whatever zoning district they're in. They'll have to be fully fenced in with security fencing. They'll be landscaped. So that's that. So you can't see them. And that's pretty much it. Pretty straightforward and kind of added in so we can protect the town from these uses going in as they see fit. So Matt, I have a question. I know they're using this. They use this in war zones where, I'll give you an example, Ukraine, right? So that people can get internet service. Can you generate correspondence with this company should we lose internet service through a local provider that we can hook into this? I'd just be curious so that the town, and I don't know how it affects the police, if we should use, lose internet service, communication service. Yeah, I can do that. Anybody else have any questions? Nope. Yeah, open to the public. Do we have anybody from the audience who would like to comment on this public hearing? Seeing no one. Do we have anybody online? We have nobody on the phone. Okay. [transcription gap] Anybody online that would like to public, make a public comment? Okay. Well then I suggest we close the public hearing and keep it open for written comments until July 12th at 4 o'clock. No, is it 12th or something? 12th. 12th. Yes, July 12th at 4 o'clock. Okay. We'll close that public hearing and we will move on to the public hearing. Number three. Again, Mr. Charters. Okay. This is a public hearing for a proposed three-month extension of the Calverton Industrial Moratorium, which is currently in place. If the Board recalls, we did adopt this moratorium by local law on the 4th of January, 2024. It became effective on the 12th of January, for it was a six-month moratorium initially, so it's due to expire on July the 12th. This has been a very effective moratorium. We have a motion to approve it. So, it's a motion to approve it. [transcription gap] WEEK. EXPECT MYSELF AND PROBABLY ANOTHER MEMBER OF STAFF TO GO PRESENT TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WHAT THIS SECTION DOES, IT ADDS 303.31 AND KEEPS THE MORATORIUM THE SAME AND EXTENDS FOR THREE MONTHS. SO MORE OR LESS I WOULD SAY IF IT'S ADOPTED ON THE DAY IT EXPIRES IT WOULD BE TO OCTOBER 12TH. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LAG FOR AN EFFECTIVE DATE WITH FILING WITH THE STATE BUT MORE OR LESS THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER. IF THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC RECALLS THIS IS A COMBINED EFFORT WITH A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WE SAW A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT IN CALVERTON AND IT'S ONE OF OUR TARGET AREAS TO CHANGE. WE'RE LOOKING AT NEW ZONING USE DISTRICTS IN CALVERTON. WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO ZONING USE DISTRICTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE COMBINED INTO ONE. NEW USES, NEW SETBACKS, THE ABILITY TO LAND TDRS IN THESE SECTIONS. SO THIS WAS A YOU KNOW WE UNDERSTAND THAT MORATORIUMS ARE SOME THE YOU KNOW MOST RESTRICTIVE THING A TOWN CAN DO BUT IT'S IMPORTANT AND YOU KNOW WE'RE MARCHING TOWARDS THE END OF THE COMP PLAN AND GETTING ADOPTED WE'RE RIGHT ON SCHEDULE SO THIS WILL ALLOW US SO YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO GET THOSE CODES ADOPTED AND IN PLACE. MATT HAVE WE STARTED ON THE CODE? YES WE'RE IN PROCESS. YEAH KIND OF DRAFTING IDEAS AND YOU KNOW IT'S IN IT'S IN THE EARLY STAGES BUT WE'RE WORKING ON IT. OKAY THAT'S ONE. TWO IS THERE ANY REASON WHY WE'RE NOT EXEMPTING RECREATIONS SINCE IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANY PART OF THE PURPOSE OF THIS MORATORIUM? I WOULD SAY I WOULD CAUTION TO CHANGE IT AT ALL BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT A SPECIFIC USE IT'S ABOUT THE THE NATURE OF THE AREA ITSELF SO IT'S GOING TO BE A WHOLESALE CHANGE WITH WITH NEW I UNDERSTAND BUT IT YOU KNOW IN MY MY RECOLLECTION A RECOLLECTION OF READING EVERYTHING THAT THAT'S BEEN RECOMMENDED BY BFJ RECREATION IS NOT AFFECTED AT ALL SO WHY IS IT CAPTURED UNDER THE MORATORIUM? SO THERE'S SPECIFIC EXEMPTIONS THAT EXIST NOW DEPENDING ON WHETHER IT'S A TYPE TWO WHETHER IT'S A WHETHER THERE'S APPROVALS NOW TO ADD ANOTHER USE OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE TO RENOTICE RECREATION ITSELF IS A BROAD USE I MEAN THE PROBLEM WE WOULD HAVE IS AS YOU KNOW WE DISCUSSED ON THE WORK SESSION ON JUNE 4TH IS THEN WE'RE PROCESSING AN APPLICATION THAT'S NOT GOING TO COMPLY TO OUR NEW CODE SO WE'RE GOING TO YOU KNOW ONCE THE MORATORIUM IS OVER AN APPLICATION COMES IN WE HAVE TO PROCESS IT YOU KNOW THE APPLICANT IT'S UNDER THE EXISTING ZONING AND THEN TWO MONTHS FROM NOW ONCE THE COMP PLAN IS ADOPTED AND THE THE NEW CODE IS ADOPTED THE PERSON'S STARTING OVER AGAIN I DON'T THINK THAT REALLY DOES THE BOARD IS A SERVICE I DON'T THINK IT DOES THE APPLICANT THE SERVICE TO ESSENTIALLY START OVER AGAIN THAT'S WHY I'M NOT RECOMMENDING ANY CHANGES RECREATION OR ANY OTHER USE OKAY NOW AS WE DISCUSSED PRIOR TO UH WE'RE ASKING FOR A THREE-MONTH MORATORIUM WHICH TO ME MAKES SENSE FOR THE COMP PLAN TO BE PUT TOGETHER BUT SHOULD IT TAKE LESS THAN THAT WE CAN STOP AND SEE ABSOLUTELY UH MORATORIUM IF WE'RE WE'RE THAT MUCH FARTHER AHEAD CORRECT SO YEP IT DOESN'T WON'T NECESSARILY BE THREE MONTHS IT COULD BE BUT IT COULD BE LESS COULD BE LESS OKAY ANY QUESTIONS DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THE MORATORIUM
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AFTERNOON KATHY MCGRAW NORTHVILLE THERE AREN'T A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE HERE SO I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK I DIDN'T INTEND TO IN FAVOR OF THE MORATORIUM I THINK THE PEOPLE OF CALVERTON VERY MUCH WANT THIS TO BE EXTENDED THANK YOU WE RECEIVED A LOT OF UH CORRESPONDENTS FROM PEOPLE KATHY THEY COULDN'T MAKE IT TODAY SO AND AND THEY WERE ALL IN FAVOR OF THE MORATORIUM I DIDN'T RECEIVE I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER DID BUT I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY OF THEM I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY OF THEM I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY OF THEM I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANY THAT WERE IN FAVOR OF OF DOING AWAY WITH THE MORATORIUM THEY ALL WANTED THE MORATORIUM SO YES OKAY AND WE HAVE NOBODY ON GO AHEAD MA'AM I'M SORRY JENNIFER HIDEN THANK YOU UH GOOD AFTERNOON SUPERVISOR AND MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD MY NAME IS JEN HARTNAGEL AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE GROUP FOR THE EAST END WE ARE ALSO HERE TO SUPPORT THE THREE-MONTH EXTENSION OF THE MORATORIUM BUT I WOULD ALSO JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT THE MORATORIUM IS A GREAT PLACE TO BE AND I THINK THAT WE ARE UNDERSTANDING THAT AND I THINK THAT'S UNUCCUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU It used language like, quote, unprecedented growth situated in an environmental justice area, and you all know this. And the 12 million square feet have the potential to create significant impacts on air quality, traffic congestion, water supply. So the analysis that was in the DGIS, in our view, is insufficient to properly, knowledgeably examine the situation. At the end of the day, when you look at it, the FAR was reduced slightly, and that resulted in a reduction in 166,000 square feet of development that would occur there if you used TDRs. If you didn't use TDRs, it would be more. This is a drop in the bucket in comparison to the 12 million square feet that can be developed there. Increased setbacks are great. The pyramid law was great. There were a number of other suggestions. Combining the districts, that's all good. But at the end of the day, you're not reducing the density. And the analysis didn't include or address the warehouses, the last mile warehouses, the distribution centers. How many do we need? I mean, we all buy stuff from Amazon. That's fine. But do we need all of that space filled up with those types of distribution centers? Maybe it won't happen, but maybe it will. And that analysis wasn't included. So what we don't know, we don't know. I watched. I watched the June 27th work session when you were discussing the comp plan. And some board members expressed concern that by reducing the FAR, they would be taking away property rights. And that's your perspective and that's your prerogative. It's not personal. I respect that. But I just want to reiterate that there are additional concerns that need to be accounted for, such as environmental quality, community character, traffic concerns, and the whole issue of the environmental justice area. So while you have this moratorium in place, please, please reconsider these issues before you close the door on the DGIS analysis. Thank you for the opportunity to speak. Thank you, Jen. Thank you. I just want to offer a couple points of clarification for the record. So Ms. Hartnagle is correct that there is a 12 million square footage, you know, estimation in the moratorium language. And that does differ that what's in the analysis that was done in the comp plan. That's for a specific reason. The 12 million assumes a complete doomsday scenario of 100% build out of all available properties. So in the comp plan, it's a presumed build out. I believe it's based on a 9% build out of soft sites. So it's a different system. ANALYSIS, BUT BOTH WORK IN KIND FOR A 25% REDUCTION. SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF NUMBERS THAT ARE BEING CONFLATED THAT ARE NOT EXACTLY THE SAME, IF THAT CLARIFIES FOR THE BOARD. 12 MILLIONS IN THE MORATORIUM, THAT ASSUMES 100% BUILDOUT. IN THE COMP PLAN, IT'S A SMALLER BUILDOUT THAT'S BEING ANALYZED BASED ON A 9% GROWTH. THANKS, MATT. YEP. THANK YOU, MATT. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT? WE HAVE SOMEBODY ONLINE? OKAY. NO. WE HAVE NOBODY THERE. OKAY. BEING THAT THERE'S NOBODY ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT, I'LL JUST SAY, OKAY. I'M GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. [transcription gap] OKAY. I WILL MAKE A MOTION. WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND KEEP IT OPEN FOR WRITTEN COMMENT. TO JULY 10. TO JULY 10 ON THIS ONE. TO JULY 10. IT HAS TO GO BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AND THEN IT WILL BE READY. OKAY. OKAY. MAKE A MOTION. YES. MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE IT AND KEEP IT OPEN FOR WRITTEN COMMENT UNTIL JULY 10. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? YEAH. AYE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO COMMENTS ON RESOLUTIONS. COMMENTS ON ANY RESOLUTION BEFORE US TODAY IN THE PACKET. KATHY MCGRAW, NORTHVILLE. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT TOWN BOARD RESOLUTION 2024-642. OKAY. FIRST OF ALL, I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST SCOTT POINT. I DO HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH, ABOUT THE SECOND TO LAST RESOLVED PARAGRAPH. WHILE I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN MR. HOWARD, IT GIVES HIM THE DISCRETION AS TO WHETHER HE SHOULD SEEK FURTHER MONETARY AND OR PAYING. OKAY. I'M GOING TO CLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU responsible for that decision whether they should tear the thing down so I believe it's I believe it's chapter 103 in the town code provides provides that discretion and instituting legal actions with with consultation with the town board what I can say is you know it's drafted so as to sort of cover all the bases of all the relief that could be sought and generally when I commence these actions I put it you you always ask for the maximum amount of relief you never ask for less than what you could ultimately get I guess as a matter of practice I asked for all those things anyway it's it's the town bringing this action and it just seems logical to me from a legal point of view that the town should be deciding what it wants to try to get done in this lawsuit if it if it's any consolation you know ultimately if the case isn't determined by a judge after a trial or through their motion practice or whatever a proposed settlement agreement would come before the town board to authorize moving forward with settlement okay well what if the town board says to you we want the thing ripped down it's in your discretion not to ask for that according to this resolution I think it would probably be foolish for me I agree I agree but I totally agree but it's the point of what this thing says and it it doesn't give the responsibility to the town board it gives it to you Mr. Howard and I would just I would argue that it should be the town boards responsibility what remedy they want in this lawsuit thank you. I'm very confident in Councillor Howard. and I'm not saying. I'm not. I just think it's the town's responsibility. Thanks. Thank you. Anybody else?
Good afternoon. Mike Foley, Reese Park. Hey, Mike. How are you? I'm good. Actually, I want to comment in favor of Resolution 643, which ratifies authorization to retain legal counsel and to commence legal action against the town of South Hathorne. Tim, I know this is a last resort. I know you and other town board members and senior staff people met with the people of South Hathorne to try and solicit a reasonable settlement, and it didn't happen. I don't think you had any other alternative. And anything, speaking on behalf of many civic associations that are with you on this, if there's anything we can do, any meeting we can show up at to let them know it's not just you, it's not just the town board, it is the citizens of Rivad that want this relief from the town of South Hathorne. So please let us know if there's anything we can do. We appreciate that, Mike. Also, for the record, we met with the county executive office also, together with South Hampton and then separate also. And we just weren't able to come to any reasonable agreement with the town board. So I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm going to be able to do that. But there's nothing we can do. We've had a lot of discussions with the town of South Hampton, and this kind of forced our hand to go this way. I don't think any one of us really want to sue South Hampton to stop a sewer treatment plant from being built. But the way it's being done and how they're going about it needs to be addressed, and that's the only way we felt we could legally address it at this point in time. I think the issue and the law is on our side, and we're with you. I just want to let you know the citizens are with you. I also want to speak in favor of Resolution 642. which has to do with us getting ready to sue scott's point um denise had two great articles one about the dec initiated litigation and one about how they actually acted after you guys cited them you guys took action i think on the 12th and i think uh the dec took action on the 26th of june uh going back to uh the resolved paragraph that kathy brought up you know you looked like you were outraged tim when this first came to your attention and i'm sure looking at some of the photos and everything else of scott's point didn't do anything to allay that outrage uh but i really didn't have a mind's eye view of this uh scott's point until last night myself and another interested civic member took a drive there there was a car show on mondays at five o'clock uh so he's a big car guy me not so much uh but we went around took a look at it we walked to where the uh go-kart area is now gated off uh there is apparently storage uh behind the golf cart area the racetrack and he also told me you know to take a look at the video because scott's point actually has the audacity to keep this video up this morning i looked at it and it had clearly a a car that was spewing an awful lot of smoke with a sanded down track so that they could slip and slide all over the track within 20 feet of all water which has been described as a 19-acre gash in our aquifer so this is where we are now we have a number of things that are up for discussion and litigation uh the dec's notice of violations they stated three in construction of the lake excuse me the construction of the lake was in violation of what they had agreed to the go-kart check and that the parking lot is substantially larger than they initially applied for uh the dec violations are 8 000 per violation and 2 000 per day for every time when they are not stopping the violations from happening so i took a look at this so this is what's going to sound like so this is what's going to sound like So I took a look yesterday. There was nobody in the water. I know that was one of the things that they were prohibited from doing. There was nobody in the water. But one of the things I noticed that I didn't understand was the storage of these very large cigarette boats that were all over the property. I mean, they were sitting above the soil. Now, you know, you look at it, five 450 horsepower engines on one cigarette boat. I don't know what the maintenance is on them. I don't know who's looking at them. I don't know what the compensation to Scott's point is for keeping them there. I doubt if it was contemplated in the application. I went in and had a beer and had a couple of appetizers and took a look around the area. The restaurant. The restaurant is real big. And they have an upstairs that I was not, that we ended up not going to. But going out onto the balcony, it's probably could hold 150, 200 people. And they have an upper one too. So I guess my question is, when this application came in, what was the original application for the occupancy of a restaurant? I mean, is it possible that they wanted 150? Now they've got the capacity of 400. And they haven't paid the applicable fees for putting that many seats in. I understand there's all sorts of water money and other things that they're supposed to do based on the number of seats in a dining facility. Is that an issue as well for consideration in litigation? You know, the previous violations were stated by Denise. Denise mentioned that there was a 427,000 net tax exemption given by the IDA for calendar year 2023. That contemplated 500 employees. There's now, I think, 20. And that they were supposed to be in compliance with all of the rules and regulations. So the fact that they are clearly in violation of the rules and regulations that they agreed to and committed to to the IDA. I'd like to know if there's anything that the board can do to urge Tracy Stark to claw back the $427,000 net tax exemptions for 2023. Thank you. [transcription gap] Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. how much the construction was on that gold card track. I took a look at it. I'm not in the business, but it was a six-figure job, no question about it. How high in the six figures? Let's go cheap at $200,000. So he spent $200,000. We're going to shut him down from ever using it again. And now remediation should absolutely be something that we need to go after. And I'm sure that Eric, as part of his litigation, is going to ask for all that. But now you take a look at the reality of it. This guy's been in town for 20 years. There have been a couple of violations before. There are multiple violations before us right now. And the DEC and the town are taking action against this guy, against this owner, who clearly is a bad actor from his history. I don't like to see anybody go out of business. I don't like to see the demise of any business. But if the demise of this business comes from the amount of litigation, remediation, and penalties imposed on them, the person responsible should look in the mirror every morning. And that's the applicant. So Eric, I'll urge you to do everything you can to put the hammer on this guy. If there is a place right now in this new administration where we can make it to everybody that comes before this board, the planning board, the zoning board, the town board, we have rules. And it's in their best interest. It's in their best interest to follow them. Otherwise, they are going to come down on them like the hammers of hell. Thank you. Thanks, Mike.
Society without rules, laws, and codes is chaos. Amen. And chaos is not something we're looking to be known for in the town. So we are aggressively dealing with this. I mentioned at prior meetings that this was a brazen act, and that's exactly what it was. Hand up in your face and a thumb waving at you. And it's just not going to be tolerated anymore in this town. We cannot do that. So we are taking maximum action that we can take. And nobody wants to see a guy go out of business, and that's not what we're trying to do. But you've got to conform with the code and the law of the town. And when you don't, there are penalties for all of your actions. And that's exactly where we're heading with this right now. Thank you. Hi, Takwe. Hi there. How are you? Takwe Church and Greater Calvert and Civic Association. Doing great. Hope you are, too. A quick question about Scotts Point Island Water Park. I was trying to look up the resolution and see if it was written in there. To my knowledge, there were supposed to be monitoring wells on that property, water monitoring wells. Am I correct? Yeah, that is my understanding. And are they being monitored currently? I don't think they're due to be monitored. I don't think they're due to be monitored. I don't think they're due to be monitored. Eric, would you want to handle that? Yeah, we also have Frank here. The monitoring wells were put in. Hi. It's Frank from the Water District. That's correct. So we just received all these foils, and we do have an agreement in place for them to The monitors are installed. The monitoring wells are installed. They weren't sampled right at installation, which was my understanding of what was going to happen. But the agreement, I just talked to Danielle Hurley. The agreement says biannual. We were anticipating every other year. That means twice a year. So we're really looking for this once every other year because it's a 20-year capture zone, and it's an expensive amount of sampling. So there's some confusion with the agreement, but it is in place and signed. It is. Yeah. And I know the monitoring wells are installed because I worked with their engineer, approved the location and the installation of them. Right. So I do anticipate. We think we'll see that data in November, which will be a little bit later. Yeah. So I'm just wondering, what's the plan? I think we'll see that in November, which will be one year from the issuing of the CO. It was a condition of the CO. Okay. Is that it? Thank you very much. So if I understood it right, there haven't been any samplings happening yet since November. Sorry. The first one will be coming up in November. Did I hear that right? That's what you heard. Correct. So is that addressable in whatever, what's the date? I don't know. [transcription gap] Do you point out in whatever legal work that you're using to, against Scott point. In other words, if that's clear in the paperwork to them and how that's going to be sampled and when. It has to be sampled in November. Yeah. In or around probably the beginning of October. We would send a demand letter. Okay. Indicating that they need to produce monitoring well data. Okay. Sorry. I'm not really sure how that runs. Who monitors it? Who does the physical monitoring? Oh. Is that Frank? Defer them to our... Sounds like it might be. It's me again. They're going to collect the sampling. It's their monitoring well, and they're going to do the analysis at an ELAP-approved lab, just like a water supplier would, and then report the data back to me. Thanks very much.
Anybody else for comments on any resolutions? I have nobody online. Okay. Mr. Wooden, will we go ahead and read off the resolutions? We'll start with Resolution 601.
Seward District Capital Project, Day 2, 317, Budget Adjustments. So moved. Seconded. Thank you. Vote, please. Mosky. Yeah. Yes. Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 602. Water District Capital Project, 82303, Budget Adjustments. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Mosky. Yes. Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 603. Riverhead Seward District Capital Project, number 8222, 6, budget adjustments. So moved. Second. Vote, please. Mosky. Yes. Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. No. Hubbard. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 604. Budget transfer, Veterans Memorial Park Sanitary System, Capital Project number 72306. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Mosky. Yes. Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Kern. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Kern. Yes. [transcription gap] américans américans
yes Kern yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 607 extends bid for disposal of town generated construction and demolition materials so move seconded vote please waski yes Murrayfield yes Kern yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 608 extend bid bid non pro tongue for lubricants so moved seconded vote please waski yes Murrayfield yes Kern yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 609 extends bid for auto parts so moved second vote please waski yes Murrayfield yes Kern yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 610 extends bid for disposal and recycling of the municipal solid waste so moved seconded vote please waski yes Murrayfield yes Kern yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 611 ambulance District Fund balance transfer so moved seconded vote please waski yes Murrayfield yes Kern yes Hubbard yes resolution adopted resolution 612 approves the attendance of one police department employee to attend a seminar so moved second vote please waski yes yes Yes. Kern? Yes. Hubbard? Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 613. Approve the attendance of one police department employee to attend the DCJS Public Safety Symposium. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waski? Yes. Merrifield? Yes. Kern? Yes. Hubbard? Yes. Resolution adopted. Resolution 614. Provisionally appoints a code enforcement officer. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waski? Yes. Merrifield? Yes. Kern? Yes. Hubbard? Beefing up our code enforcement. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 615. Reappoint member to the Small Business Advisory Committee, Castronova. So moved. Second. Vote please. Waski? Yes. Merrifield? Yes. Kern? Yes. Hubbard? Yes. Thank you, Ray Castanova. Resolution adopted. Resolution 615. Reappoints members to the Small Business Advisory Committee. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waski? Yes. Merrifield? Yes. Kern? Yes. Hubbard? Yes. Thank you to all the members. Resolution adopted. Resolution 617. Appoints a hearing officer and authorizes suspension of an employee. So moved. Second. Vote please. Waski? Yes. Merrifield? Yes. Kern? Yes. Hubbard? Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 683. Resolution 618. Appoints new seasonal beach employees to the Recreation Department. So moved. Second. Vote please. Waski? Yes. Merrifield? Yes. Kern? Yes. Hubbard? Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 619. Appoints a seasonal recreational aid to the Recreation Department. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waski? Yes. Merrifield? Yes. Kern? Yes. Hubbard? Yes. Resolution adopted. Resolution 620. Appoint a call in recreation specialist to the Recreation Department. So moved. Second. Vote please. Waski? Yes. Kern? Yes. Hubbard? Yes. améric améric améric améric
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améric [transcription gap] Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 622. Appoints a call on recreational specialists to the Recreation Department. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waski. Yes. Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Resolution adopted. Resolution 623. Appoints Brian Mills to serve as chairman of the Board of Assessment Review. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waski. Yes. Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Thank you, Brian, for continuing to do that. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 624. Ratify the amendment of fees for accelerated building department services. So moved. Second. Vote please. Waski. Yes. Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Hubbard. This is working out very well for Andrea. In the building department where people can get their stuff accelerated, they pay more money, but they get it back faster and it doesn't waylay the other pile that's in the pack because this is done after hours and the overtime rate is paid completely by the fee for the accelerated services. So yes, it's working very well. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 625. Accepts the resignation of an account clerk. So moved. seconded vote please waski yes merrifield yes kern yes hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 626 ratifies the appointment of a seasonal staff to the recreation department so moved second vote please waski yes merrifield yes kern yes hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 627 waves fee for use of showmobile for townscape summer stage concerts at town square so moved second vote please waski yes merrifield yes kern yes hubbard yes thank you very much that resolutions adopted resolution 628 authorizes the town attorney to execute an agreement with municipal valuation services Inc so moved seconded vote please waski yes yes merrifield yes kern yes hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 629 bond resolution of the town of Riverhead New York adopted July 2nd 2024 appropriating 2 million 260 thousand dollars so moved seconded vote please waski yes merrifield yes kern yes hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 630 authorized town clerk to publish and post public notice to consider a local law to amend chapter 301 of the Riverhead Town code entitled zoning and land development section 240 thereof entitled bed and breakfast facilities so moved second vote please waski yes merrifield yes kern yes hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 631 authorizes Town Clerk to publish and post notice to amend chapter 257 peddling and soliciting so moved seconded vote please waski yes merrifield yes kern yes hubbard yes resolution adopted resolution 632 authorizes Town Clerk to publish and post public notice to consider a local law to amend chapter 251 of the Riverhead Town code entitled noise public nuisances and property maintenance section 7 thereof entitled variances so moved seconded vote please waski yes merrifield yes kern yes hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 633 adopts local law to amend chapter 301 zoning and land development part two districts article XLI pine Barrens overlay district so move second vote please waski yes merrifield yes Kern yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 630
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Resolution 637. Approves agreement between Town of Riverhead and Windship Media LLC. Utilize parking, police personnel, and police cars. 2024, Jazz in the Vines. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waskey. Yes. Merrifield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 638. Approves firework application for Jamesport Fire Department July 20, 2024. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waskey. Yes. Merrifield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Resolution adopted. Resolution 639. Approves fireworks application for Riverhead BIDMA July 5, 2024. So moved. Second. Vote please. Waskey. Yes. Merrifield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Resolution adopted. Resolution 640. Approves special event chapter 255 application for House of Representatives. Alexville Museum Barn Raising Supper. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waskey. Yes. Merrifield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 641. Establishes the Town of Riverhead Emerging Technology Committee. Initial members to the Town of Riverhead Emerging Technology Committee. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waskey. Yes. Merrifield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Hubbard. Yeah, I just want to mention this is a great thing. This is a great thing. Bob is setting up. We just, this isn't, so people don't get confused. This isn't solely for EPCAL by any means. EPCAL will have its parameters that we're working on with a group now. And that this committee will have to conform to the mission statement and the vision of what we're doing for EPCAL. So I just wanted to clarify that to members of the public. This is going to be used all over town. It's not specific just for EPCAL, but we certainly will be incorporating them as part of our subcommittees of the committee and of the task force that we put together. And we'll go by the abiding guidelines. Yeah, some of it, you know, B&L, Brookhaven National Lab, for example, does a lot of research in agriculture. So, I mean, it's a broad, broad spectrum. Yeah, that's great. So, yeah, to your point. Okay. Resolution. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 642. Resolution authorizing legal action against the owner, Island Water Park Corp., doing business as Scott's Point and all tenants, leases, and licensees of the premises located at 5835 Middle Country Road, Calverton, Town of Riverhead, State of New York. So moved. Second. Vote, please. Was I? Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Waskey? Yes. Merrifield? Yes. Kern? Yes. Hubbard? Absolutely. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 643. Resolution to ratify authorization to retain legal counsel and commence action against the town of Southampton. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Waskey? Yes. Merrifield? Yes. Kern? Yes. Hubbard? Yes. Resolution? Yes. Resolution 644. Pay bills. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Waskey? Yes. Merrifield? Yes. Kern? Yes. Hubbard? Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 645. Authorizes the supervisor to execute short-term runway use agreement for Racetrack Knot Street 2024 Summer Classic. So moved. Second. Vote, please. Waskey? Yes. Merrifield? Yes. Kern? Yes. So moved. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 646. Assumes lead agency status and issues negative declaration for special permit and site plan application of 374 Main Road Professional Office, 374 Main Road, Aquebog, New York-Suffolk County Tax Map number 600-85-3-1.5. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Waskey? Yes. Merrifield? Yes. Kern? Yes. Hubbard? Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 647. Scheduled public hearing for special permit application of 374 Main Road Professional Office, 374 Main Road, Aquebog, New York-Suffolk County Tax Map number 600-85-3-1.5. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Waskey? Yes. Merrifield? Yes. Kern? Yes. Hubbard? Yes. Resolution is adopted. Ends our resolution. Okay. This concludes all of our resolutions. We'll now open the floor up to comments from the public on any matter. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. My name is Marilyn Manfredi. I live at Creek Road in Wading River. I own a home with my brothers and sisters, and we have been on Creek Road for six years. I have been on the road for six years. And we have been on Creek Road for 66 years. It is a beautiful home. We enjoy our private beach each and every summer and have done so each year without concern. Unfortunately, this has not been the case for the past three years. There has been an influx of non-Creek Road residents who are utilizing the dunes and beach at the west end of Creek Road as a private beach near the mouth of the creek and the wetlands. On any given weekend, you can find over 100 adults and families with coolers, umbrellas, day tents, fishing gear arriving in the early morning hours and remaining throughout the night. Who are these people? With consideration of the Town of Riverhead website noting the town beaches, they are violating the criteria of the resident requirements for the town. They are violating the criteria of the resident requirements for the town. They are violating the criteria of the resident requirements for the town. They have violated the criteria of the resident requirements for beach use. They have violated the criteria of the resident requirements for beach use. I was happy to see that's listed out there before you enter the Town Hall. The website also posted that residents are required to show proof of residency, to purchase a resident permit, and utilize the public beach at the intersection of Creek and sound road, and produce a license and registration to acquire a parking permit. There's a check in center at the Creek Road public beach. Also noted on the full list, full clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear also noted on the town of riverhead website are guidelines for beach utilization with regard to facilities residents and wildlife these individuals i am referring to are not respectful to the facilities there are none down on that end nor are they respectful to the residents setting up their fishing gear beach chairs tents stay tents and coolers in front of private homes and most importantly they are not respectful to the wildlife inhabiting the area as a result there has also become an environmental this has also become pardon me an environmental and ecological concern this behavior is posing a threat to the ecological system in the area i do have in my possession a report and i won't go through it it's very lengthy from new york state regarding the significant coastal fish and wildlife habitat and narrative it breaks the law of the state of new york state and the law of the state of new york state breaks down the location and description of the habitat the fish and wildlife values and the impact assessment and i will highlight one area which notes that nesting shorebirds inhabiting wading river march and beach are highly vulnerable to disturbance by humans especially during the nesting and fledgling period march 15 through august 15th significant pedestrian traffic or recreational use of the beach could be a risk to the wildlife and the environment could easily eliminate the use of this site as a breeding area and should be minimized during this period well multitude of people arrive in vans some as large as sprinter vans where they're dropped off at the creek road boat launch or brazenly park in the town of riverhead permit required area only then they proceed to walk along the fragile banks of the creek dragging all of their beach belongings the coolers the chairs and the beach and the beach and the beach and the beach and the américans so many minerals so many minerals so many minerals so many minerals so many minerals so many minerals so many minerals so many minerals so many minerals so many minerals [transcription gap] So you can imagine the garbage that's left behind from their food, or worse yet, urine in bottles, dirty diapers, and even feces in bags. They are even setting up their beach chairs and umbrellas on the dunes in the water. They fish from the jetty, ignoring the signs and gates prohibiting. It's the jetty from the Shoreham Nuclear Power Plant. They ignore this, and there are no lifeguards, which makes for a very dangerous situation. They are swimming in the mouth of the creek and kayaking with way too many people on board in an area where the current is so strong that over the years there have been tragic losses of life. They wave to boats to help them to cross the creek when the current is too high, and they access boats, and they swim the creek, and they block the access to the boats, trying to exit. They enter the sound. Additionally, we do not observe any fishing restrictions. I'm sure there is a fishing game. There are fishing game guidelines in the town of Riverhead. All fish are kept, no matter the size, and thrown in their buckets. And I am sure that they do not have any night fishing permits, as the town requires. These individuals are emboldened because there is no enforcement. And now there's been a new development that we've noticed over the weekend. Drone fishing. They actually launch their drones as far out as 500 feet from the beach or closer to the shore. In fact, our nephews have gotten caught up in the fishing line when they've been kayaking, and the fishing line has been caught on some of the propellers of the boats. It's getting really very dangerous. These incidents, in my view, are a replay of the Wading River Beach Owners' Events of 2011. The residents on the east end, sorry, east side of the Wading River Public Beach were experiencing the same. The homeowners had to resort to fences and private beach signage, ultimately bringing a lawsuit against the town of Riverhead. There were many ongoing and heated debates, many of you may remember that, about the violation of the homeowners' privacy and access to their beachfront. This was ultimately... I'm sorry. [transcription gap] I'm sorry. [transcription gap] I'm sorry. [transcription gap] I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. [transcription gap]
residents making it their own public beach. We found a wallet at one time from someone who lived all the way on the south shore in Bayshore. They are using it as a public beach on the backs of the residents paying taxes for their private beach access. I bring to your attention that on Saturday, June 23rd, you may recall it was in the news that there were five fishermen who were saved by the Coast Guard off of Reeves Beach. They were in a raft too small for the number of occupants and they drifted in a current and were calling for help. Upon the Coast Guard arrival, they were issued safety violations and brought back to shore. This is an all too common occurrence in front of our homes. You can observe too many people in small rowboats, rafts, or kayaks fishing offshore. They are not aware of the current. They are not current of the tide tables. And just last year, while sitting on the beach, we observed three fishermen on a kayak being dragged out by a current. We observed three fishermen on a kayak being dragged out by a current. We observed three fishermen on a kayak being dragged out by a current. We observed three fishermen on a kayak being dragged out by a current trying to swim back. We saw they were in distress. People on the beach were frantically screaming to them. We called 911 and my son rushed out on our boat bringing them safely to shore. They were exhausted and crying. It was quite the scene. However, there was a tragedy that was averted. In Long Beach, just a few weeks ago on the south shore of Long Island, there was another recent situation where high school students, again through social media, played a game of hide and seek. They were full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full head full is buzzing and I cited that I'm sure they have already started posting. I respectfully implore that this cannot continue. You as the governing board of the town of Riverhead should put in place enforcement of the town's rules with regard to residency, parking, fishing restrictions, and beach access. Summonses can and should be issued. Ours should be towed away and perhaps more summer employees, I heard you speaking of that, can be utilized to enact the emergency measures to ensure that the Creek Road residents have access to their private beaches without cause for concern as well as ensuring the safety for all. I loved your comment, sir, when you said that a society without rules and laws and codes is chaos. And that's what we are. We are experiencing chaos on the weekends. And as residents who pay our taxes diligently, we expect that you will respond to our concerns in a timely manner. I thank you for your time. Thank you, ma'am. I know in a conversation I had with the chief yesterday, the bay constable is going to be making the sound more of a part of his patrol where he hasn't in the past. He's predominantly been on the bay. But his access is going to be more accessible to the sound. So he will be up there more. But that alone is not enough. We'll talk to the chief. We'll try to set something up and see just what we can do. There are trespassing legalities that may or may not come into play. There's also the high water tide mark where anybody is allowed on any beach anywhere. So there are a lot of factors that go into this. We have to figure out what we can do. But I will speak with the chief. We will put our heads together and try to come up with something. I do appreciate that. And with your comment with regard to the high water mark, I would respectfully say that at the low tide water mark is where much of the damage is occurring as well. They're not moving. As that tide comes up, I have photos that I won't bore you with and videos where they just set up at the high tide water. And they're, as I said, fishing poles. And lines. And now drones. Drones that are dropping fishing lines into the water. And what else are they doing? We've had items that have been stolen from our homes during the week because predominantly we do utilize the homes on the weekend. And it's become a problem. And it concerns also that it's not a public beach. There are no bathroom facilities, no lifeguards, no opportunities for them to safely swim. And they're swimming in water that is really, as I said, a public beach. They're so full of minerals. [transcription gap] They overcrowd the boat. And these are all things that they're putting their lives in jeopardy, which fine. If you're that stupid, go ahead and do it. But you're putting our volunteers' lives, who are going out to rescue them, or our police officers, our firemen, our dive team. You're putting all their lives in jeopardy. Your own family who went out on their own to help somebody. Absolutely. And that's where we can't tolerate it. Yes. Stupidity we can't police. Yes. But we can make it so that they won't be there. So we will work very hard on this. I appreciate it. And I appreciate your time. Thank you. I have one quick question for you, Marilyn. Is there usually a lifeguard there in the past? Never. It's not a public beach. It's a private. It's near the end of Creek Road. Yeah. The public beach is toward the east end of Creek Road near Sound. And it's a beautiful beach. And it's well-maintained, well-kept. And there's a booth there where people have to check in, show their residency, show their parking permit. And they just, as I said brazenly, you'll see them today. As I arrived at the house, I did see. I did see a family. And now they had their, you know, they were going to do some barbecuing. So they had all of their equipment that they were going to bring down to the end. And I am concerned. The weekends are coming, but the 4th of July in and of itself is a very popular time for the residents on the road. And now they're just coming from all over. And I would imagine that even Ubers are dropping them off because we have seen sprinter vans. And they know the time. Yeah. Because you really can't get through the outlet of the beach. And they know the time. So they know when the tide. Ma'am, I do have to ask you to step up. Because the public can't hear you if you're talking from your seat. It has to be on the mic. They're well aware of the tides. Because you can't access that walkway of the creek. When it's high tide, it comes up way high. They know when the tide is going down. And my concern is that they're setting up shop on a hidden sandbar. So when the tide is high, you don't see that sandbar. When it goes down, that's where they are. Okay. And that's where the ecological impact is going to take place. We respect the piping plover. We know what we need to do. They're walking all over that. They're dragging their chairs. It really can't be done. And what my sister didn't mention was two years ago, we had people coming and screaming for us to take our boat out. My other nephew went out on the boat. And two gentlemen drowned because of that rip tide that occurs when the water is rushing in at high tide. Mm-hmm. They don't understand that. Mm-hmm. [transcription gap] And the creek is very, very deep. And we have been playing Rescue 911. They go out on blow-up boats. They drag a kayak, and they'll put three people on it. And it's becoming a problem. They're encroaching upon an area that's really not a public beach. Just state your name for the record, please. Barbara O'Donnell. Thank you. Thank you very much. And I just want to point out that the chief of police is here and has heard everything that you both said. And I know that he works very hard. He does. Thank you. And the department has been wonderful. They can't hear you from there, so we'll just leave it at that. Okay. Thank you, ladies. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Amelia Lance. I'm also going to jump on what you said about code. And I'm hopeful that you, in your resolution, you hired a code enforcement? Yes. Okay, great. So I've been on Fishel Avenue now for about 25 years. And these past several years have been particularly bad as far as noise is concerned. We have one rental property on Newton Avenue that the noise is so loud that it drowns out any music that we want to play in our backyard on Fishel Avenue. And my 21-year-old daughter is like, that's loud. There's karaoke. There's bonfires. There's bonfires. It's a little out of hand. And that's 250 Newton Avenue. It's every single summer. We have called the police department. My neighbor, Mrs. Cruzan, has called. It goes to all hours of the night and sometimes into the morning. My daughter works late. She comes home and she's like, Mommy, it's 1 o'clock and they're still going. This house, this particular house, has a pool. And they rent the pool. They rent the pool out by the hour. So I cannot imagine being the homeowner and what their insurance policy must look like. Probably don't have one. I'm optimistic. Well, that's reality of things. Yes. My husband did research it and he found out, I couldn't catch him, the owner of that particular house on 250 Newton lives in Flanders. Mr. Wooten, I don't know if you hear this. I don't know if you hear the music down by you. I can tell you I've researched it. The code enforcement has quite a file on it with every owner and tenants. Yeah, the police come. Nicole was down here just a couple weeks ago. So I know there's an ongoing investigation. It's really, really bad. This is the third year with this particular house. And I've not been here since. I'm like, okay, everybody's entitled to have a good time. But so are we. We want to live in peace and quiet and so forth. That house was sold in 2018. It's now a rental. They also did major renovations to one of their garages in the back. Did they have a permit? These are rental folks. The owner may have done it. I don't know. 258 Fishel Avenue. Which is directly across the street from me. There is anywhere as little as eight people, as many as 12 people living in a single dwelling home. They have a swimming pool that is literally. Inches from their neighbor, my friend's yard, her fence. Yes, they have since emptied the pool, but the pool is still there. This particular house, 258, was really upsetting to me because one night, one day I parked my car out on the street, which I never do. I always park it in the driveway. And it was the sun was going down. It was dusk and I need to get my car back in to the car jockey with the family. And I walked. I watched these two tiny, tiny children from that house. I'm guessing one was 15 months old and the other was maybe. Four. He takes his little brother, assuming his little brother puts him in one of these little Flintstones cars, pushes him all the way down on the sidewalk to your house, Mr. Wooten, and then comes back up the street in the street. It. Absolutely upset me as a mother to see this happen. And when he was coming out of the driveway and I had just gotten into my car, I was like, stop. And I said, you're going in the street and Fishland Avenue bypass. That's what we're known for. When he came back up the street. I was so upset. I took him not physically and walked into his backyard and said, where are yours? Where's your mommy and daddy? And the parents amongst. A bunch of other people are in the backyard sitting around. I'm not sure what it was, but they had no idea this child. These two children were going up and down the street. This. I. It was. I can't tell you how upsetting it was to me to see this little kid just in the street. 242 Fishland Avenue. Has so many cars parked behind their house. They're there. They're held behind a stoplight. They're so brave. They're so brave. It's now no longer visible from the street. Our street at nighttime, you have to ride the center of the street in order to get down the street. We have a neighbor who put their fence in reverse. You know, the pretty side is to go to your neighbor and the not so pretty side goes to your side. 245, my particular favorite here, 245 Fishel Avenue is digging trenches in their driveway. They just put down a brand new driveway. They're digging trenches in their driveway, laying cable, shimmying up the telephone pole, building an electrical box. I thought, okay, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. It's, you know, LIPA, it's cable vision, whatever. No, this was the home dweller, the person who was dwelling in that home.
All of these homes are single family homes. But, you know, my concern is, is with the folks across the street, especially with these tiny little children, it is an extremely busy, busy street. And someone is going to get really hurt. And there's just far too many people renting in these homes. And these are only the ones I know about. So, and I've done, you know, a little bit of homework. But, you know, as far as like, I think it's code 263 for the Riverhead. I really hope that you can really do something about this. Because I do not want to see any child. I don't want anyone for that matter hurt. Because of, that boils down to poor parenting. But that's another story. Please, if you could just kindly look into it. Thank you. I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks for your time. Thank you, Amelia. Thank you.
Deputy Town Attorney, but I'm getting up as resident. I want to verify the constant music, the volume. I just want to clear up just clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear 15 minutes and then right back up. And you know, as an employee of the town, I don't want to harass code or PD, but it really is nonstop. I mean, Jim lives across the street from me. It's not his singing, is it? Because I heard you sing. He doesn't get the volume if you live on the backside of Newton Avenue. I mean, really, there are times where you can't enjoy your own backyard. You can't even think. You can't read. It's like, really, like very bad for a long time. Yeah. So as the town board knows, we recently brought on code enforcement on the weekends for the 2 p.m. to 10 p.m. shift. And then code enforcement has someone who's now on call overnight. And they're not going to be able to get to the town. And so I think that's a really good point. And any time there's not someone on shift. So if any of these complaints, you know, particularly over the weekend, go to PD. PD can now call out code enforcement to investigate these things. Well, I can tell you that if you don't mind, I can tell you the house, Rocky Palmer's house that we're talking about, I know there's a very extensive file on that. And I know that Nicole, I know they're up on that. And they know the problems there. So I don't know whether they're going through what, where that. And that's a good point. I don't know where the investigation is now, but I know it's probably outside our hands at this point. It probably is. I have a question. I have a question from a legal standpoint. Because this has happened in other neighborhoods. And they actually have lookouts. So when they see a police car coming, the music goes down. As soon as it leaves, it goes up again. If somebody's videoing and they're capturing that sound, then it's time stamped, right? And police are going to go, oh, my God. Oh, my God. [transcription gap] but now you have evidence that this was going on prior to the police coming everything does that hold up in court no because the person who did that you these are violations and they must be witnessed by the police oh so if it's turned down when the police get there they can't issue a summons for it a civilian complaint could be filled out technically by the homeowner that timestamped it and videotaped it and then they would have to get involved and go into court and unfortunately a lot of people don't and I understand that don't want to get involved that way okay but that's what's required legally well they can certainly come sit in my back porch with me and have a cup of coffee and witness it from there before they roll with the house yeah and a couple years ago we did amend chapter 251 to account for unreasonable noise to deal with these types of nuisances so it's I mean with a loud party or persistently loud music or whatever you don't necessarily have to have code out there doing an entire sound study for it it's it's it's more of a subjective determination but most likely it would also require testimony of you know nearby residents to corroborate the code enforcement officers determination yeah Amelia we will forward she's a lot close she's a lot closer we will forward these addresses to code I already did they die I know I saw you're writing it down I wrote them down too no that'd be great the the amount of folks just to give you an idea that are that are especially 250 Newton they fill up the street and then they park on the lawn so this is now have code for that too I mean it's it's bad and we're actually making that code stricter in terms of parking on the lawn we're in the process now it was 24 hours you know that they're making it parking on the the front lawn period so yeah as far as what you had said about neighbors coming being that this is two o'clock you know I put out you know emails to all of our neighbors and they just weren't able to attend but once the next six o'clock we have full intentions of coming back and and hopefully we'll see some improvement by then but yes thank you so much sure you don't want this it's all my notes no I'll take it yeah yeah yeah absolutely this is what doesn't like that I do this but when it's handwritten and it's right there it's access to us so it's having to pay the stenographer to redo the record and it's expensive Marilyn no wait no you're Marilyn I'm sorry that's a familiar Amelia miss Lance you know when you see something like that with a child in the street you know you should really should be calling Child Protective Services as well or the police well call the police and they can contact Child Protective Services right absolutely without hesitation I will call 9-1-1 but it's just and this particular house there's at least two families living in there and they all seem to play the kids play in the front yard which is unusual to me you know and the way we are in this society little kids it's not good they it was as though there was no regard to this time he was so tiny so tiny but understood thank you thank you again
hi there again talk me church in greater college and civic association president I have two topics one since we're talking about the topic of a last speaker and speak before that one of our residents sent an email in May 13th of this year to I think it was a supervisors office requesting attention to a speed hump in near her home in village Gruber IT WENT UNANSWERED SO SHE TRIED AGAIN JUNE 19 AND EXPANDED THE LIST TO THE TOWN COUNCIL. SHE CCED ME ON THAT REQUEST BECAUSE IT'S, THEY'VE BEEN GOING UNANSWERED, THE EMAILS ARE GOING UNANSWERED AND SHE'S BAFFLED. THERE'S A SPEED BUMP THERE, THE HISTORY OF IT, SHE HAD TO GET HER NEIGHBORS IN 2005, I BELIEVE, TO PETITION IT SO THEY COULD HAVE IT BUILT. HUMP IS SOFTER THAN THOSE TRIANGULAR SHAPED SPEED, WHATEVER THEY ARE, ONES THAT HURT MORE THAN WHEN YOU GO OVER IT. HUMP IS A GENTLE STOPPING EXPERIENCE. SO I JUST WOULD ASK THAT YOU GIVE A RESPONSE TO HER. HER NAME IS MICHELLE SMITH AND IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO, SHE SENT IT TO JOANN CANNON. SO HOPEFULLY SHE'LL BE AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY CAN HAVE THAT. I SPOKE WITH HER PERSONALLY LAST WEEK. LAST WEEK, OKAY. THAT'S ACTUALLY WHEN I GOT HER E-MAIL. THAT'S WHEN I GOT HER E-MAIL. IT WAS EITHER MONDAY OR TUESDAY LAST WEEK IN THE EVENING. I SPOKE WITH HER AT LENGTH ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON. THE SUPERINTENDENT HIGHWAY, HE HAS SAID IN SPEAKING WITH HIM, HE'S GOING TO BE AVAILABLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS. HE IS OPPOSED TO HAVING THE SPEED BUMP IN NEIGHBORHOODS. AND WHAT HE SAYS GOES. IS THAT CORRECT? WHAT HE SAYS GOES FOR THE HIGHWAY. AND I SPOKE TO SOMEBODY FROM UP THERE ALSO. I THINK IT WAS MR. NATS. YEAH. RYAN? YES. AND I ALSO REFERRED IT RIGHT TO THE HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT. AND THE HIGHWAY SUPERINTENDENT HAS HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM ALSO. So it's not like these people are being ignored. They're just not liking the answer that they're getting. And when it comes to roadway surfaces, I defer to the expert, and Mike Zaleski is the expert, as is the chief of police, and they have traffic safety meetings where they discuss these things, and I know neither one of them are in favor of speed bumps. Yeah, so I guess there's a difference with this one. It's not one of those speed bumps. It was. It's a hump that's more round and long. Yes, but they repaved up there, and now the hump is not as much of a hump because they repaved the road. Oh, it's even smaller profile. It's a smaller, yes, it's a smaller bump in the road. I haven't gone over it in a while. Yeah, that's exactly what happened. So it doesn't have the same effect as it did prior to the repaving. And both those subjects are, you know, I mean, the chief and highway superintendent, they make those decisions. We don't as the town board. Mr. Natsen. They got a petition together years ago. 2005. The town board voted to do it, but that's really not our position. Our position is to go to the experts, and there are various reasons. You look very bewildered, Denise. The experts make the decisions based on sometimes they can cause accidents because if somebody is going at a high rate of speed and they hit that, it's going to cause the car to go out of control. Then there's liability to the town because the town put the speed bumps there. And there's all kinds of studies that have been done regarding speed bumps and that they should not be used. So, again, I defer to the highway superintendent and the chief of police. If they say they don't want them there, I'm not really looking to overstep those bounds unless I get some kind of really good solid proof that they should be there. And I haven't seen that. I would just like to say I agree with what the supervisor has said as well. It's not our province to be involved in an issue involving a roadway. In addition to that, it affects their ability to plow the road or the police's opportunity to get to a location quickly. In fact, our speed bumps, even in our parking lot here, were removed. So it's not just this individual speed bump. In general, these are not looked on favorably any longer with regard to municipalities. They're not safe. In fact, if the person is interested in keeping the street a slower speed, maybe ask the police to put up the signs. I know in my neighborhood, there's a sign that'll post. No, it's electronic and lets everyone know you're going over. It's a 35-mile-an-hour speed zone, and you're going 45. And then you can have the police respond if they feel that this is going. So there's other mechanisms that these individuals can use to help if they're concerned about speed in their community. That's all we're saying. And it's not that we're ignoring her. It's just not an issue that involves us. It's the police department and the highway department that rule on these things. But there's a lot of things that we're doing to help to make sure that there's a space for space matters, in my opinion. Well, thank you very much. And if she's not watching the meeting today, because she does work during the day, I'll relate it to her. But I'm sure that the conversation that you had with her, Joanne, did that include all of that happened? It did not. So I can add that in the conversation to her. All of that information at the time that I spoke with her. Okay. And I was eager to try to help her. Yeah. I understood where she was coming from and what she was saying, and that her concern was safety. Mm-hmm. But to hear everything that you just heard today about space matters, how it doesn't seem to be the safest way to go for the neighborhoods. I have to agree with what the superintendent has said. Okay. I haven't looked at what he's written back to her, but I'll take all that you've said and relate it to her. Just from my own experience, there's a speed bump at the entrance to Glenwood Village that's been there for a long time. It hasn't been removed. Not that I want it removed, but it's one of the ones I see all the time, and there's other ones around the town. It's not town property. It's private property. And it doesn't get plowed by the town. A lot of private communities have them, too, in their communities. Okay. That's not us. Okay. Good enough. So I'll take that back to her. The other is, and I know that the clock's not going to make it quick. It's not on the clock. It's on the comments. Thank you. So my topic is a comprehensive plan update document. Listening earlier to the answers given from, the planning department from Mr. Charters, I don't know if you have the number now, but I'm looking in the document and I'm not seeing it. I'm looking for the current and existing warehouse square footage. And I'm also questioning the 9% increase. That seems arbitrary, and I don't know how it was derived. I'd like to see a further analysis. Our comp plan update must consider the worst case scenarios. And then I have one to ask. The inventory table of land uses by acreage in Riverhead, so I'll head over to you next. I'll head over to you next. [transcription gap] you were commenting on where there were highlights. I think there's 46 pages of it. You did have other references to the larger CPU document that I couldn't possibly follow. It was like page, and I didn't have a number, and I was taking notes on it. I didn't see it in your comments in that section of the work session, so I am looking for it. I hope it's still a good idea that we have it, and I'll have more to say on it later. Thank you very much. Thank you, Takme.
Kathy McGraw, yet again, from Northville. I have some comments about the comp plan. You folks almost wore me down the other day as I watched the work session on the comp plan update. The comments. It was really for the best that I was watching this at home and not here, because I could not believe the way you approached the comments you received, and the ways in which you disposed of those comments. I was angry. I was demoralized, and I decided that day to give up. It was clear to me you are unwilling to listen to the residents of this town. Thank you.
on the issue of the comp plan. I really care a lot about Riverhead. My roots go very deep. Like you, Mr. Hubbard, there's a street in this town named for my grandmother's family, Sweezy Avenue. As a child, I walked from my grandfather's home to visit the Perkins home, a neighboring home where the library stands today. My parents' wedding reception was at the Perkins Hotel. I do not think my grandparents or the Perkins would be pleased to see the massive apartment buildings being built or about to be built where they lived. So because I care, I'm here yet again to urge you to pause and listen to the diverse opinions of the people of this town. The comp plan is supported by full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full [transcription gap] full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full developers and the farmers. Case in point, agritourism resorts. At the last town board meeting, you all asked for alternative ideas to accomplish preservation. Ms. Waske, Mr. Kern, you asked. But the next thing we know, at your work session, you decided to move forward with resorts, notwithstanding persistent opposition from residents. If you really wanted to look into alternatives, why haven't you stopped and convened some meetings between residents, farmers, and town officials to explore other ways to preserve agricultural land? Your scheme of relying on resorts will protect, at least this is my counterpoint, the future of agriculture. If you really wanted to look into alternatives, from what I have heard and observed, about 500 acres, 70 acres out of 100. And you are anticipating about seven places for resorts. I don't consider 500 acres a very good exchange for the adverse impacts of such resorts on the residents of this town, who uniformly have a goal of preserving the Sound Avenue corridor, including the bluffs of the Sound, the vistas, and the residential neighborhoods in that residentially zoned area. Mr. Hubbard, despite your forceful statement last October that you were opposed to changing the zoning north of Sound Avenue when the information came out about the resort that was being proposed there, and your recent forceful statement that you were opposed to vertical farming in that area, at last week's work session, it appears to me you acquiesced to all those changes. We learned that the farmers were opposed to the resorts because the proposed zoning code changes excluded vertical farming north of Sound Avenue. So, it sure looks like that to get the farmers' support for the resorts, vertical farming will now be allowed and agritourism resorts will remain in the comp plan. I'd like you to explain to me why farmers and developers have so much more sway over the future of this town than its residents. Why can't all these groups work together? Why can't all these groups work together to come up with a better way to preserve farmland? There are a lot of smart residents in this town, and I know the group for the East End, Jen Hartnagle, who had to leave, they have alternative ways of preserving farmland ideas. So, why can't we have a meeting of all these groups and come up with alternatives for preservation? Compromises. Can. And should be made by all interested parties. But you need to be willing to take the time to make this happen. As it now exists, this comp plan favors development over preservation. If you look at the majority of recommendations in the plan, and I know, Mr. Kern, you're in favor of development. Please don't speak for me because you don't know that. You don't know what I'm in favor of. So. Well, I listened to you. I listened to you at all the town board meetings, and it's always develop, develop, develop. It does. Kathy, I would have to say you're in favor of no development whatsoever. No, I'm not. I am in favor. I listened to you at all the town meetings, and that's all you say is no development, no development, no development. No, that's not true. I am in favor of development. Oh, it's very true. And for the record, Kathy, I am very interested in developing industrial land. That's what I'm interested in. I know you are. Okay. You want to develop the. The iconic river area with industrial properties. That's what you said at the last town board meeting. No, that's on the west. I don't know if you're going to get into it. That's on the west side of. Okay. It's already there. There's already light industrial there. Okay. So, I mean. What I would like to just say quickly is the recommendations, the majority of recommendations in this comp plan, lifting the 500 cap downtown to allow purchase of TDRs for building home ownership units. Okay. [transcription gap] Okay. [transcription gap] Okay. [transcription gap] Okay. [transcription gap] Okay. Okay. [transcription gap] Okay. Okay. Okay. [transcription gap] Okay. Okay. session that we had on Thursday, which is a discussion period, which with open government here, we had it where everybody could listen to it and give us feedback on what they heard at a work session, not where everybody's saying nobody discusses anything in public. We did it in front of you. So don't criticize. And I appreciate that. Come in and, again, like I asked the last time, put your heads together. Come up with something. You said that. When do we get to do that? In that work session, you all came to conclusions. And not anybody watched it except me. You're here now. If anybody else watched it except me, they know you came to conclusions about how you're going to deal with the comp plan. Mr. whatever-his-name-is from BJF is writing the changes as we speak that you decided upon at that work session. Can you tell me that's not true, Ms. Waske? No, that is true. However, it still can be changed. That is not ironclad by any means. And I would ask this town to hit pause because the residents are upset about a lot of the things in this plan and convene some meetings, come up with some alternatives. You asked us a week ago for alternatives. Nobody here in this town said, yeah, that's a good idea. Let's do that. Let's get all the parties together and talk. Let's talk about it. That didn't happen. Mr. I've seen some alternatives, and from alternatives to building casinos and giving property back to the Indians to go to five-acre upzoning. These are ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. Could you imagine what happens to the farmer if we went to five-acre upzoning? They took a beating bad enough years ago when we went to two-acre upzoning. Ms. People give ideas, but I am saying there's never been an opportunity for us to do that. I'm saying there's never been an opportunity for farmers, the town, and the residents to sit down. Mr. Over the past couple of years, there's been plenty of opportunity to speak out on the entire comp plan. Ms. There is a steering committee that did this. Mr. With a steering committee made up of people in the community, Kathy. Ms. There is a steering committee. Mr. I don't know what more we could possibly give you at this point in time. I really do not. We have listened. We have read. You shake your head no, but you are probably one of the most negative people I've ever met in my life. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Ms. You've been there my whole life. There is nothing that this town does that is satisfactory to you. When you came up here and said, oh, I have something good, I mean, I almost passed out. Ms. That is just not true. Mr. I'm like, there's something good to say? Everything is negative. You're the negative Nellie of the town of Riverhead. I'm sorry, but that's what you come across as. I am not alone in this thought. I am not referring to my people that are sitting up here. Ms. That's why I didn't want to come back today, because you people have worn me out. You don't listen. You don't respond. Well, I have to come back today. It's my job, but you wear me out. But I'm still here, and I will continue to still be here. And, Kathy, I'm going to add something. Over the last two years, over the last two and a half years that I've been in office and during the comp plan, anybody who calls me for a meeting, I have a meeting with. Anybody. You've never called me to have a meeting. And I hear all this stuff about preservation. You know as well as I do the current TDR program is a total failure. If I tell you I've met with farmers, TDR committee, you name it, anybody who wants a meeting. If you want to have a meeting, all you have to do is call. And the ones that do want to have a meeting and have a serious discussion, call me. They don't come up here and say, you won't do this or you won't do that. That's all I can tell you. That's not the way the comp plan is supposed to work. You're supposed to afford the community more than two public meetings to give input. I'm sorry. I just see this comp plan as a big failure when it comes to getting the input. You're also one of the ones that complained with the last company that we had that it was taking too long to get done. I don't think I said a word about that. Now you want to extend it further. I don't think I said a word about that. And I am sorry. You see. I didn't do anything wrong. [transcription gap] I didn't do anything wrong. I didn't do anything wrong. [transcription gap] me into a negative person. Thank you for listening. Okay. I'll discuss that with my therapist and see if there's any value to that. Jesus. We love you, Kathy. How about once in a while recognizing I mean, we just got $24 million to help our downtown. Is that good or is that bad? It's fabulous. I'm sorry? It's fabulous. Can we record this? Because you made no mention of it when you were at the last meeting. But it's There we go. There we go. I'm not the one that didn't want it there. The business people don't want it there. Is it going to be there? No. Is it? Okay. Anybody else for public comment on anything that makes any sense today? John, you going to wrap it up? Yeah. I don't know what I should say without being if it's I mean, John McCullough from Rolling Woods, Roanoke Landing. We unfortunately are slipping back into the personal attack mode of the previous. That wasn't an attack, John. If you know me, that was nothing even remotely close to an attack. That's just common sense and just speaking freely. Look at the video and think about the previous supervised. I mean, I I'm not a I agree that that's not your intention, but that's frankly the way it came across. And don't ever compare me to the previous supervisor. Thank you very much. I do want to agree with the underlying point that Kathy is making and put it in slightly different terms. I mean, you refer at the last board meeting and this board meeting at zoning affecting the interests of farmers. I mean, the implication of that is that if people want to sell farmland and turn it into resorts or turn it into housing or whatever legally in that particular land now they are permitted to do, then that's fine. And I understand the premise behind that, but I think you've got to look west and figure out if that's what you want Riverhead to be 20 years from now because that's what it's going to become. I mean, when I grew up, when I was a young man and I was a young man and I was a young man and I was in primary school, I was in Wantaw and there used to be a farm right next to where we lived and now everything is track housing. Mark Wasier. Yeah. I mean, it's the inflection point essentially means saying no. And I mean, this, I don't think there's bad intention, but I think the whole comprehensive plan has been so hard for people to get a handle to that now you're getting a reaction to what the consequences are. And I don't know, I mean, I appreciate Bob's offer for private meetings, but I think what Kathy is saying that a public forum about the future of land in Riverhead bringing in experts as well as the opinion of the constituencies involved would be very useful for you to call before you go further on it. Anyway, that's response to what's been said. In terms of the earlier discussion of the misuse of, of property of the noise violations, is there a fine system that will essentially force people to. Like repeat offenders? Repeat offenders, yeah. I'm not sure if that's built into the noise violation code or not. I would have to look it up, John. Yeah, I believe, I believe it should go up with the number of. Yeah, what I'm just thinking is maybe an early step would be to leaflet all of the offending houses and say. That there are these complaints and that you are vulnerable to this. If this continues, there is a potential financial penalty. At any rate, that's. We could, we could issue NOVs, but typically when there's noise violation issues, we just go straight to the tickets. Okay, but. And the ticket does have a financial piece to that, a financial punishment to that. Yes. I think that maybe just needs to be made much more public. So we have for first defense, not less than 250, but not more than 750. For second offense, not less than 750, nor more than 1500. For third and subsequent offenses, it is not less than 1500, but no more than 2500. And how often have those penalties been applied to these kinds of houses? I haven't been prosecuting the justice court violations for the past couple years. I can get that information. Okay, well, at any rate, I think the connecting. Of sanction to violation should be made as public as possible to the people involved. The other question about fireworks. I mean, I must admit to having shot off fireworks. I'm sure everybody in this room has shot off fireworks. Where we live, it's already starting and come the third and the fourth and the fifth and the sixth over by the sound. It's going to be constant. And I don't know whether there's. Some way that that the police can drop by and at least be sure that people doing it are sober adults and provide a certain amount of surveillance, if not enforcement in terms of realism about what is going on. Because it is illegal. It is illegal, but it's going to. It's more than just dropping by and seeing if they're sober. So what? If they're doing that, they'd get arrested. But does that mean that the town police. Are going to be on the beach. The night of the fourth and enforcing. I can tell you the town police on the night of the fourth are everywhere. OK, well, I are spread there when it starts. Happening. Especially it's a nice weather day, right? It's between boat rescues and fireworks and beach parties and house parties and everything else, car accidents. They're mobbed. So, yes, OK, they do what they can do. All right. On Scott's point. My memory is that they have a history of private parties on the Fourth of July that have skirted the edge, if not violated. And so I hope that you're not just dealing with them retroactively, but. Well, they're also open for business on July 4th now, where they weren't in the past. They weren't in the past. Parties happened. So they have a license to do something different for the Fourth of July? Or is it they don't need it? OK. I don't believe they've been issued a fireworks permit. No. They haven't. Right now, they have a stop order on use of the track and a stop order on use of the second floor assembly areas. There are issues of use of the water, too, if I recall. Well, and the DEC issued a notice of violation directing them to cease recreation activities on the lake. OK. At any rate, I wanted to say that on my notes were to say congratulations on the $24 million grant. Oh, sure. You just wrote that in. I know. But I have one slight caveat. Of course you do. No, no. It's not about the grant. John wants half. It's about the politics of the grant. It's very good to recognize that you had support from both senators and from the representative. But it might have been nice to acknowledge that that funding was from President Biden's program. That doesn't appear anywhere in the public statements that I saw. And DOT Chair Pete Buttigieg was the one behind it. But the legislation was presidential, if you recall. It was a major presidential accomplishment. With a lot of bipartisan work. And they were all given credit for it. Well, except Mr. Zeldin, among other people, voted against it twice. Were Mr. Lallotta a member at that point, he probably would have voted against it. But he would have taken credit for it. I'm just saying that. I don't care if King Kong voted for it. We got it. But it's not political. And it's for the benefit of our town. And isn't this the fifth year that we're going to have a presidential election? And I'm not saying that because I'm going to go a little bit different on the presidential. I think after the debate, we need two new candidates in both parties. I agree with the Times and the Atlanta Constitution and the Philadelphia Inquirer. I nominate John McAuliffe and Kathy McGraw. I have your time. I nominate Joanne Washby. I just want to put it more seriously, Tim. I think that there is a crisis. I just want to clear up a little bit. 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Right. But like I said, warehouse jobs are not really high-paying jobs. No, they're not. They're not. Really, that's minimum wage. Right, right. That's not really helping us. Exactly. Also, I'm also definitely, I side with these people in Wenninger, too. I learned to swim in the Wenninger Field in Tennessee when I passed away. Oh, yeah. Beautiful, beautiful place. I go there whenever I get a chance to go to Wenninger. I always go there, but I used to see that destroyed. I know. I mean. We agree. Okay. I guess that's it. But otherwise, the park thing would be beautiful. I mean, farmland, every time I head east, I got to go down Sound Avenue because I remember all of this. I remember Huntington being potato farms when I was a kid. I mean, who wants warehouse? Let's take a vote. Who wants warehouses or who wants potato farms? Anybody want potato farms? Potato farms. Just remember. Your taxes. As Mr. Krups used to always tell me, he says, once the foundation goes in, farm's going forever. Thank you. It's very true. Very true. Good point. Thanks, Ryan. Okay. Anybody else? Nobody online? Okay. I make a motion. We adjourn the meeting. Second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. All against? Me. Hope you don't. Meredith wants to say something. All right. Thank you.
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