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Okay, Councilman Rothwell, do we have somebody here for invocation today? We do. We are once again blessed to have Reverend Mary Kluberhaus of the Praise Christian Revival Center to lead us in our invocation this evening, so if you'd please come forward.

Okay. You got it. Bring the mic. Just bring the mic down there, Reverend. Thank you. Thank you. Lord, we thank you for protecting our town from the storms, tornadoes, and hurricanes and fires. Bless our officials and leaders with wisdom, compassion, and our citizens as they present their petitions. Thank you for hearing. Thank you for listening and answering our prayers, for you said whatever we ask in your name, you will do it. So we ask in the name above all names, Jesus, and we thank you in advance. Amen. Amen. Thank you. Thank you, Reverend, and it's good to see you up and around. You gave us a little scare a couple weeks back. Glad to see you're doing much better. Okay. Mr. Wooten, do we have any announcements or correspondence? Well, on the correspondence, we have some letters came in. Karen Kemp referenced the industrial development zoning changes that she recommended or that she questioned. A letter from Andrew Gavadi referenced the communication tower. There was also a letter, wrongfully says from Greg Berman, but actually he just presented it. It was from the planning board, referenced the secret lead agency coordination. Three letters that were received at last town board meeting that were published. Published and circulated. You got copies last meeting. A letter from the Revet Planning Board for their notice of public scoping hearing. And a letter from Brian Carroll referenced the 2025 budget. And that's all the letters are posted and part of the agenda on the website. On the reports, we received the tax receiver October monthly utility payment report of $1,015,488.25. The town clerk October monthly report of $10,000. The town clerk October monthly report of $721.50. And the Riverhead Industrial Development Agency presented their 2025 budget. Okay. Council people, do you have any announcements you'd like to make? Joanne? No. Bob? Let's just go. Okay. I do. So I just wanted to let the general public know, specifically residents within Wading River. As we know, during our prior work session, we did have a discussion and then we led into a public hearing. Regarding a cell tower at the Wading River Fire Department. I know there is great concerns on both sides. Meaning that we definitely need better communications for our volunteer firefighters and paramedics and our police. As well as just the general public having the ability to have that cell phone and the immediate ability to dial 911 in case of an emergency. And it gives access to the local churches. But I just want the general public to know that we take very seriously the concerns also about any potential transmission. Any missions. Anything that may come from that cell tower that in any way should jeopardize the health of any resident in Wading River. As well as our volunteer firefighters and so forth that may be stationed in that. So through that and through many letters in which we've received, we have reached out to the fire department. We've reached out to the manufacturers of cell phones. And we have asked additional information. They were very forthcoming. And we have a lot of information that was given certainly to all the members of the board today and the supervisor. And so we're kind of like going to read through all of that. It does answer some of the questions. It does answer a lot of the concerning questions. But there is not a resolution or anything on this evening regarding that cell tower. Because we want to thoroughly take a good close look at all the data that is presented to us. So that we make a safe decision to protect every resident in Wading River. And so I just want everybody to know how serious we do take that. If there were concerns and there was health risks that land, that cell tower would not be built. We wouldn't permit it. I certainly wouldn't support it. But as long as I have documentation that says that it is safe and it is going to benefit our firefighters. Police officers and medical personnel, paramedics. Then it is something that is a necessity for them to go especially into a burning building and have safe communications. So I just wanted to point that out that we are kind of carefully reviewing it and taking it very seriously. All the concerns for Wading River. And we do have additional documentation for all of us to kind of look at and take our time to look it over. And then we'll follow up in the future. Okay? Absolutely. And I agree with everything you said. We got that information earlier today. I had the chance to ask. I actually read through it. And I was very impressed with the job that was done with it. The questions were answered that the public asked. And I think at some point in time this document will probably become public information. And you too can have a look at it. And I think a lot of the concerns and questions were answered through this document. So I implore my board members to read it when you get a chance. It's very informational. I appreciate it. And exactly. I think it would be great and beneficial if the town clerk could put that document. And I think that's what we received today up online somehow on the website. Make it accessible for all residents to take a careful look at it. The cover letter is under correspondence. But I certainly will post it tomorrow. Thank you very much. Perfect. Anybody else? I just wanted to wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving. Because we're not going to have a town board meeting before Thanksgiving. So I wanted to wish everyone that. But there's a lot of public hearings. We might be here right through Thanksgiving. Who's cooking? I just have one quick one. Happy birthday to the mayor. Happy birthday to Denise Merrifield. She had a birthday over the weekend. So a little quick rendition for you. We can sing you happy birthday. I know you thought you were going to escape this. I did. No, you're not. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Denise. Happy birthday to you. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. How did Denise escape the ribbons and hats? Quite honestly, I'm afraid of her. And if I did that to her, I think she might have used her district attorney powers on me and put me somewhere. Happy birthday to Denise. Happy birthday. Thank you, everybody. Congrats. Thank you. Okay. We have numerous public hearings tonight. So the first public hearing being scheduled for 16th of March. It is now 613. Public hearing number one, chapter 217, penalties and offenses. And I believe councilor Cerro is going to go over that with us. Good evening, board. Good evening, everyone. Good evening. So I have just a copy of the code. It's extracted straight from the agenda packet that was posted to the website. So if anybody needs a hard copy, let me know. Does everyone? Bob? Okay. Do you have a copy of the code? Yes. Do you have a copy? Sure. Thank you. I'll take it. Thank you. say no I haven't thank you thank you

okay so the first public hearing revolves around chapter 217 specifically 217 20 which is the penalty section as I discussed at the work session on October 3rd of this year became apparent that the penalty section had not been updated since 1989 so the maximum fine that we were getting on these no building permits no CEOs were $500 with a $100 surcharge I added the cumulative rate of inflation so that would something that was worth $500 in 1989 is roughly $1,300 now so that's how we became we came up with a minimum fine of a thousand and a maximum fine of three thousand just to cover us for the years to come as we know we take each of these cases by you know a case by case basis so as we discussed in the work session you know someone who didn't get a permit for their their goat pen is very different than an LLC that's doing extensive interior alterations so that's would be the goat pen type case would be around the $1,000 mark and the LLC's would be more toward the $3,000 mark so that's how we we came up with that range. I just want to remind everyone that these are fines, not fees. So these are only for people that have violated the code and are in justice court. So if everyone's doing the right thing, this shouldn't affect anyone in this room. So that's all I have for 217.20, unless there's any questions. Okay. Do we have anybody in the audience who would like to comment on this public hearing? Not seeing anybody and nobody online. We will make this, close it tonight, keep it open for written comment until December 2nd, 2024. Thank you, Victoria. Thank you, Victoria. No problem, but I'll stay up here. Yes, you will. Next public hearing also scheduled for 6-10, Chapter 263. Chapter 263. Article 21, Penalties and Offenses. Again, Victoria Saru. So the second page of the packet of the hard copy is that proposed amendment. Very similar to 217. We're just taking another look at these fines, refreshing them to keep up with current inflation rates, things like that. So for no rental permits, the minimum fine was $500. We're increasing that, or we would like to increase that to $2,000, a range of $2,000 to $3,000. For a first offense, $3,000 to $4,000 for a second offense, and $4,000 to $6,000 for a third offense. Now, again, as anything else in justice court, case-by-case basis, if it's somebody that forgot to renew their rental permit, it's more toward the lower end of the fine. Now, if somebody owns multiple properties and they're having multiple offenses, those will count as a first, second, and third offense. And as you'll notice, those fines become larger as a deterrent. And to encourage... To encourage people to get their permits and not end up in justice court for violations of those. So that's how we landed at those figures. And if anyone has any questions, I'm happy to answer them. Just what's the maximum fine that justice court could put on it? So I'm getting mixed results. The most I've ever seen personally since I've been in the justice court is $6,000. So they can't do $6,000. I just didn't know if it capped out at $5,000. Yeah. So that's the most I've seen. I still don't know. I don't know what the exact figure is. As long as it's preexistent as $6,000, you've seen other cases, then it's the permit. Yeah. And other codes, like this code, the maximum was $6,000 in the past. I haven't increased the maximum for the third offense. Okay. So. Thanks. Would anybody from the audience like to comment? Please come on up to the microphone. Thank you.

I have a little question. Astrid Lehman. I'm from Baiting Hollow. I guess the question would be, does that rental permits include violation of short-term renters, like people who rent their house out for a weekend? Do those rental permits cover those things? Well, the rental permit doesn't because it's not permitted. Okay. So this section will cover all of Chapter 263. Correct. So, for example, if someone had an Airbnb, they would be in violation of 263 for, I can't think of the second one. I don't know. [transcription gap] I don't know. [transcription gap] I think it's 4D. So if someone had an Airbnb, they would be charged with both no rental permit and transient rental. Transient rental would have the same fine schedule, so they would actually have to be pleading to both or going to trial and being found guilty of both. So that's also another way that the fines can add up. I would just add. Sorry. Oh, go ahead. okay with the transient rentals those are some of the violations that we see most commonly and they're typically repeat offenders now when your maximum fine is what it was it was 1500 these these air B&B's often charge thousands and thousands of dollars for a week so you know for for someone who's violating the code in doing those air B&B's it's like the 1500 is the cost of doing business so this is a mechanism that we're building in so that those repeat offenders can feel it a little more if they're going to continue to violate the code right did I understand you correctly that you said that at the third offense that it's six thousand dollars it would be that did not get increased correct it's staying at six why because that's the most that I've seen it was 2,500 oh I'm sorry yes and yes Oh for a third offender. Okay. Okay. ! So that's as high as we can go because by the time that you get to somebody that's a third time violator you've got you know somebody that's obviously intentionally not doing the right thing. Yeah and at that point there are other courts that we could bring actions in to supplement you know to add the pressure on. I was gonna add that you go to Supreme Court. Correct. On those violators. Victoria let's say in the month of May right the person violates it violates it for three weekends but then they do it again in June that's a separate that's still a separate docket cap that yes so now they could be up to 12,000 correct as long as it's on a separate docket yeah. Great job. Okay. Anybody else from the public like to comment on this public hearing? Seeing nobody online also. Okay. [transcription gap] Okay. [transcription gap] Close this public hearing and keep it open for written comment until December 2nd, 2024.

Okay. Thank you, everyone. You're free. Thank you. And we are moving on to public hearing number three, which is town officers and employment and employees article six. And I will turn that over to Council Howard. Thank you, Supervisor. This amendment follows the public hearing that we had last week that set the positions of tax receiver, assessors, supervisor, town board, and highway superintendent to odd-year elections. This we handled separately because right now our town justices are staggered. So one is elected in an odd year, another is elected in an even year. And when we were re-elected... So we're reviewing and coming up with a code that we discussed last week. We realized that we shouldn't have town justices both vacating a position at the same time and having two new justices. So we should always have one justice who is elected. And so we're creating this or proposing this additional section to the new code that we proposed last week that just keeps it consistent with the way that justice court judges have been elected since going back to, I think, the 80s that they've been off that rotation. So that's it. Okay. Do we have anybody from the public that would like to comment on this public hearing? Nobody online also? Okay. We will close this public hearing. Keep it open for until December 2nd, 2024. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Next up, we have a whole gaggle of public hearings, which have kind of been or will be somewhat condensed by Matt Charters. So I will turn it over to him because he has a plan as to how he's going to address all this. Yeah. So we have... It's on the agenda. It's public hearings four through 20. So these are all public hearings related to the industrial code amendments that were recommended in the... The 2024 ComPlan update. So if you use... Everyone's looking at the agenda. They start with the actual textual changes. Those are the first, I want to say, like 10 or so. And then the last ones are the zoning changes. So those are changes to the zoning map. So what I'm going to do first is at 10,000 feet, give a nice summary of the textual changes that we're doing. And then after that, I'll go through the map so everybody can see what the current zoning is, the new zoning is proposed as, and then we'll open it up for public comment. Okay. Sound good? Sounds great. Great. So if everyone's familiar, we updated our comprehensive plan and adopted it in September of this year. We first brought you these code amendments on the 1st of October to a work session, which I like to think was pretty quick. With all the recommendations, it came back to you on the 31st in their final form, was noticed, recommended to publish in post. We're here today for the public hearings. This was also... These were also all referred to the planning commission. On the 8th of November. We're still waiting to hear back from them. So if the public who's... If you haven't been paying attention, we're doing a pretty wholesale rewrite to some of our code changes. To our codes. The first is we're going to be eliminating the industrial C and industrial A zoning use districts from our code. That's going to change to the Calverton industrial and then to the light industrial, which already exists within the code. But then it's going to be mapped elsewhere. So Calverton industrial. So the intent of this is to maintain the industrial zone lands outside of Enterprise Park while concurrently minimizing the potential impacts of the surrounding areas by eliminating or significantly restricting those uses permitted in the former Industrial A and zoning use districts. So it's taking out a lot of those heavy industrial uses that we used to have. If the board remembers, Industrial A used to allow any industrial use except for like a list of the supervisor likes to say sauerkraut manufacturing was one thing that you couldn't do there. But now we're making things a little bit simpler. So we're going to be migrating our uses out of the code into a use table that's based on what's called the SIC code. That's the Standard Industrial Classification Manual from the federal government. So that puts things into use family. It puts things into manufacturing, industrial. It gives us something to utilize if we have to make an interpretation or figure out what kind of business, where would this fit. It gives us something to rely on, essentially. So in terms of textual changes, we're... We're sort of reworking the Industrial C into the Industrial A. The important thing for everybody to know in these two new zones or a new and an expanded zone, the allowable development is going to be reduced by about 25%. So the large scale development that we were seeing before and during the complex plan process with big warehouses, that's going to be a lot smaller as of right. It's going to line up more perfectly with groundwater management areas. And we're also going to have TDR ability to bonus people's floor areas. [transcription gap] But you're still going to be below the maximum build out before any of this was allowed. But you're still going to be below the maximum build out before any of this was allowed. In terms of design standards in the new CI district, we're looking for campus style development where it's applicable, where there's no one building that's over 50,000 square feet. There's going to be a transition yard requirement that has to be naturally vegetated, a 100 foot setback, and then a native vegetation requirement in terms of the light industrial zoning use district. [transcription gap] If the public and the board's not aware, this already exists in the Stony Brook incubator, which is next to EPCAL. It's got very good design standards. It makes a lot of sense. So what we thought was to remap this area into other areas of the town that are not so heavily industrialized and make it a light industrial zone. Similar things here. We're going to have transition yards, buffering requirements, natural requirements. They're a little bit less because these are where less intense uses are allowed. But it is, like I said, about 25% less development than would be allowed before the changes. Moving on through these, we'll now have an industrial district schedule dimensional regulations in the code, which will make things easier to read. The next is that use table. It seems like it's quite a lot. There's a lot of uses out there. I think it's important to see what's permitted, what's not permitted. The important thing is anything that's not on that list is expressly permitted. So you can see that. [transcription gap] So you couldn't. It would be harder for someone to interpret that they could do a use that might be more noxious if it's not on this list because you simply couldn't. Moving on. So I want to get to public comment. We're updating and changing some definitions. So we used to have a floor area definition for commercial properties. That was quite expansive. Now it's going to be simply what's within your four walls. There's not going to be elevator shafts coming out. Stuff like that. So we're going to be using a lot of different definitions. We're defining last mile fulfillment center, logistic centers, truck terminals, vertical farming, warehouses and wholesale businesses. I will note that truck terminals and last mile distribution facilities are things that are going to be prohibited in our industrial zones, which we know the public was quite adamant in that view. We're making some changes to the commercial district schedule regulations. We're going to have full head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head area so that will line up exactly where the calvertin industrial zoning use district will be and then in terms of the ratios for the tdr we're upping the value so in all our commercial zones it used to be 1500 square feet of floor area per tdr that's now going to 3 000 and then in our industrial zone it'll be to 5 000. so you redeem a tdr you get 5 000 square feet up to an far of 0.3 other things that are happening is industrial b industrial a are being removed from the code they'll be reserved sections uh we're removing reference to the industrial a from the pip code because if everyone's not familiar pip in terms of uses used to kick you back to industrial a to see what you're allowed to do it'll now direct you to the use table um and that is pretty much it in terms of textual i want to get two into depth because i'm sure people have questions which we can get to if chip or justin can go to the zoning maps it's packet page 84 so i can take you through what the proposed zoning changes are

so notice it should be on this the next page sorry okay so that's the zone zoning as it exists now so if you can see up there sorry it's a little far now my glass is on it's industrial c and industrial a and then you go to the next page uh that's the outlined in yellow that will be the new calverton industrial zoning use uh district uh and then i apologize in advance for this but if we can now go to packet page 102 uh sorry 103 this is the next one uh this is the existing industrial a and b on calverton and cromer avenue so head over head over head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head 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those are industrial C parcels that are being rezoned to RB 40 similar story largely improved with residences here so it's going to be from industrial to residential moving on to page 111 this is the Robert Cushman Murphy Park that was formerly zoned as industrial see that's going to be rezoned recommended as open space spark makes sense then on page 112 there's an industrial C parcel to be rezoned to open space conservation on West Main Street and see in the inset on the right on the bottom and then on to page 114 that's an existing industrial B in Calverton so that's where the there's a gas station there now it was a formerly a gas station that wasn't open that's a cross from Mappletown and then on to page 114 that's an existing industrial B in Cal that's going to be rezoned it's recommended to go to Hamlet Center so if everyone's familiar down the road from Timber Park on the other side is also Hamlet Center moving on from there we get into our TDR sending areas so we can go to page 117 those are the RB 80 zoning areas that are to be sending areas outlined in red and I think it's also on page 118 yep outlined read same thing and then the last page page 119 is the new is RA 80 it's the new TDR sending area so it's the whole all of that RA 80 and from 10,000 feet that is what we're doing and you've questions I know it's a lot try and simplify as much as we can and get to get to the public sure Bob tell me your packet page and I have a packet page 69 three from the bottom it says automotive and other motor vehicles and it's X down and light industrial and I just would like to make that by a special permit if somebody's refurbishing cars or you know doing it so that's that's wholesale so that's like the wholesale it's wholesale sales of autumn of automobiles oh that's what this meat this is yes so if you say that yeah so if you see right above that it says wholesale business category gotcha okay so that's sales one more got it the other one is on packet page 72 packet page 72 and I have a packet page 72 and I have a packet page 72 and I have a packet page 72 and I have a packet page 72 yep middle middle middle middle um about midway down 3271-3 where it's concrete concrete block and ready mix concrete painting and construction uh is there a reason why we wouldn't allow that with a special permit depending on how they're manufacturing it i mean it's really a heavy industrial use that we didn't feel was appropriate for like outside of the industrial core of epcal that's our recommendation that it shouldn't go there i mean a lot of this stuff has you know significant environmental impacts so it's not our recommendation to allow it in either so making pavers for example um you know making pavers but it would also accomplish like concrete crushing all kinds of stuff like that but it's it's very expensive if you've if you looked at the use family there's a lot of uses that fall in there that are pretty intense it's noted thank you okay anybody okay anybody from the public like to come up and comment on any of these uh public hearings

hi linda nemeth calverton um i live off of middle road and at the end of middle is that proposed i guess industrial aid now right uh look at the end of manor and middle there's a middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle [transcription gap] middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle [transcription gap] middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle middle them. I feel terribly, I mean, I walk a lot or I ride a bike there, and I'm watching these people being encroached upon constantly. How are they going to retrieve any value from their homes? I know they've always lived near the concrete factory. That's a given. But when you remove maybe almost 40 acres of wooded area right next to them, and then you're pushing the concrete right up in the back of them, I wonder what considerations have been given to those people. And as well, what will happen if Industrial A, in that somewhat 40-acre plot, when trucks start leaving the place and going in and out, will they be rerouted and make sure they go to Manor? Because Middle Road is an absolute mess. Thank you. Thank you, ma'am. We have two people online. We'll take one. Hello? Can you hear us? Yes, we can. Thank you. Okay, state your name and location, please. My name is Mike Sinesi, and I live in Calverton. And the question I have has to do with the text, and it relates in two parts. The first part is, is there language that requires limitations on noise and hours of operation in the light industrial? And the second question is, is there an increase in permeable paving for non-active areas? Matt, do you want to, or you or Greg want to come up and... The total impervious, it is on the, on the, sorry, dimensional regulation chart. I think that stays the same, but your total building size doesn't change. We do have guidance in our code about per capita. Okay. But there is a difference between impervious versus impervious pavement as it is. And what was your first question? I'm sorry. I think it has to do with light and noise. No, thanks. Noise and... Noise. So no specific hours of operation, no. There's not. It might be, might be good considering the adjacency to residential neighborhoods. Yep. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. But one, let me take one more online, Richard, then I'll let you come up. One more online? One more online? [transcription gap] Hi, Jen. Can you hear us? We can't hear you. Sorry about that. Thank you. Good evening, Supervisor and members of the Town Board. My name is Jen Hartnagel, and I'm speaking on behalf of the group for the East End. I would like to begin by thanking the Town Board and the Planning Department for fulfilling its promise to address some of the issues with the industrial warehouse development within Calverton by proposing code amendments that would prevent the development of logistics centers and fulfillment warehouse centers. So thank you for that. In reviewing the proposed code, we would like to make two specific suggestions tonight, and then I have a lengthy comment letter that we'll be submitting. The first, it's great to see the increased buffering and landscaping requirements that are built in, but we would like to suggest that any revegetation that's required to take place or any area that will be landscaped should utilize native plant species. In some of the other East End towns, they have approved plant lists that the Planning Department provides to applicants as they draw up their landscaping plans. And many of the lots that are in this area are already cleared, and it's important to revegetate. The area with native species. Number two, that the site plan should be dark sky compliant and should not contribute to light pollution. I didn't see that written in the code. I may have missed it, but it should be written in there if it's not expressly stated. And lastly, just a comment. This area in Calverton is designated as an environmental justice area, as all of you are aware, and has several infrastructure issues, including the traffic ! It's still concerning that a comprehensive analysis taking into account the traffic, the air pollution, environmental justice issues wasn't conducted. The comp plan DGIS simply analyzed the proposed reduction in the floor area ratio that's proposed in the code, and it concluded that a net positive impact would occur. And it does, but that was the extent of the analysis. I guess my point is it's a great move to reduce the FAR back down. To what it was always intended to be. But the question still remains, can this area really handle the amount of development that theoretically can be built under the new code and in conjunction with whatever may be developed at EPCOW? It's concerning that there are still millions of square feet that can still be developed over time under the existing conditions, given the roadway, the water resources, the air pollution. So please just keep in mind, I think it's going to be essential moving forward. That projects on an individual basis should be scrutinized under the secret process as they come in and alternatives and mitigation should be required to address traffic, air pollution and community character. Secret provides the opportunity to impose additional standards and conditions to ensure that these impacts are mitigated. So those are my comments for now. I appreciate the opportunity to comment tonight and we'll submit lengthier comments in writing. Thank you. Thank you, Jen. Thank you. Thank you, Jen. Richard? Good evening. I'm Richard Wines. I live in Jamesport. And I'm, as you know, a long-time member of both the Farmland Committee and the Transfer of Development Rights Committee. And I just want to say thank you. All of us who have been working to preserve farmland in Riverhead, and I know it came up as the !

Very top issue when you went out to the public, you know, what's the top goal for the town? And that's the issue that came to the very top. And so we're all very pleased to see all of these various code amendments that will enlarge the TDR ascending area, to change the ratios to make the TDRs work better, and to add some receiving areas. So my main message is just to say thank you. Thank you. And I just want to say thank you for getting this on the agenda so rapidly. We've waited six years for this, but now that the Comp Plan update is done, I'm pleased to see this is moving. I hope that there are two more things that ought to be high on the town's agenda. And I do want to thank Dawn Thomas and Matt Charters and Greg Burton, by the way, for all the good work they've done on this. The two more things that should be high on our agenda here. One is the Comp Plan update proposal. It proposes an assisted living overlay district along Route 58. And that's another potential, a good potential use for TDRs. So I'm hoping, and I understand from my friends in the planning department that they're working on this, too. So I'm hoping that will be up for hearing in the very near future. And the second thing, which is a big lift, and that's setting up a Transfer Development Rights Bank. This is front and center in the Comp Plan update. It will facilitate the operation of the Transfer Development Rights Program. It will make it easier for buyers to buy and for sellers to sell, which is what you need to make the program successful. So that's going to take some work to get it right, but I'm hoping that we can all work together in the very near future and make that happen. So thank you. Richard, in terms of the bank, I'll set up a meeting with myself and with the Comptroller because I've had these discussions a couple of months ago. In terms of the bank. In terms of setting up the bank. So we'll set up a meeting right after Thanksgiving. Sounds good. Sounds good. Thank you. Thank you, Richard. Thank you. Come on up. Malo and Banks Winter, Riverhead. I just want to piggyback off of Richard, and I want to thank the Board, as well as the Board, for the support that you've given us. And I want to thank the Board, as well as Matt and Don and the Planning Board for revising this plan. I'm happy to hear about the residential rezoning. Because one thing that we do need in Riverhead is housing. For our low income. However way you want to say. But, you know, people can't afford Riverhead. I also wanted to just make a statement. That I did send a letter in on October 5. In regards to revisiting the Community Housing Fund. As well as the ADU program. That was a $125,000 grant. But the deadline was October 25. And I don't know if that was sent over to Don. over to Don as requested. But you know, we are going to talk about tiny homes, maybe some property. We do have a meeting that's going to be scheduled with Bob, and he can fill you in more about investors who want to invest into a whole community here in Riverhead, as well as the reservations that we're going to talk to as well, because people need housing. So that's all I want to say is that I'm happy that this is moving forward. I'm happy for the rezoning for housing, and keep up the great work. Thank you, Marilyn. Right? Okay. Okay. Good evening. Ray Jacob, Aquabog. I do have some maps I'd like to hand out, if possible. Can I bring them up to you? All right. Give them to Jim Wooten, to the town clerk. All right. I have two pages on your page on the website. Take a look at the third page, though. All right. Okay. I'll wait till you get them. Thank you, sir. I'll head over to you, améric. Thank you, améric. Okay. If you look at ... First of all, I would like to start with thanking the planning department. The rezoning that they did down on Cromer Ave, their uses are great. Dropping that head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head ARE GREAT. DROPPING THAT LINE DOWN BELOW THE RAILROAD TRACKS AND PICKING UP THOSE PROPERTIES ALONG 25 AND MAKING THEM INDUSTRIAL WAS A VERY GOOD MOVE AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. NOW THE PROPERTY ALONG WEST MAIN STREET, IT'S INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY DOWN TO RAINER AVENUE. AND THEN IT SWITCHES TO PECONNEC RIVER PROPERTIES. NOW IF YOU LOOK AT THAT MAP THAT I GAVE YOU, WHICH ONE SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW? THE THIRD ONE. THE ONE THAT I PRINTED, NOT OFF THE WEBSITE. YOU'LL SEE THAT THOSE PROPERTIES GOING WEST OF RAINER AVENUE IS THE BUSINESS OF A MUSICAL STORE. THEN IT'S THE MAPLE TREE DELI AND RESTAURANT. THEN IT'S RAPID RECOVERY. THEN THERE'S COTTAGE LANE AND WINTERS LANE, WHICH IS THERE'S FOUR HOUSES ON ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THEN SIX HOUSES ON ANOTHER PIECE, ON THE OTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY. THEN IT'S THE OLD BLACKMAN PLUMBING AND ADVANCED IMAGING. AND THEN THERE'S THE VACANT PIECE OF PROPERTY THERE THAT'S OWNED BY RIVERHEAD FOOD SHOP. THE LAST PIECE THEN IS SUFFOLK COUNTY, WHICH IS LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AGAIN. AS YOU DID WITH THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES WHEN THEY DIDN'T CONFORM COMMERCIAL PROPERTY IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT WAS CHANGED OVER, I FEEL THAT THIS SHOULD BE A CONTINUATION OF LIGHT INDUSTRIAL FROM RAINER AVENUE DOWN, ALL THE WAY DOWN. WHY WE SKIPPED OVER, WHY THEY SKIPPED OVER THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, I THINK THEY'D BE MUCH BETTER FOR REDEVELOPMENT REASONS IF THEY FELL INTO THAT LIGHT INDUSTRIAL ZONE. I AGREE WITH YOU 100% BECAUSE WHEN I DRIVE DOWN THERE, THERE'S SO MUCH INDUSTRIAL, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, I DON'T BELIEVE YOU SHOULD KEEP INDUSTRIAL IN JUST ONE SECTION. I BELIEVE THAT SECTION OF TOWN, WHICH FORCES EVERYBODY WHO WANTS INDUSTRIAL TO GO THAT SECTION OF TOWN, I BELIEVE THINGS SHOULD BE SPREAD OUT AROUND THE TOWN. AND THIS DOES THAT AND SO MUCH COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ON WEST MAIN STREET ALREADY. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT BLACKMAN'S HAS BEEN INDUSTRIAL FOR 80 YEARS AND NOW THEY'RE CHANGING IT. YEAH, IT'S PICCONIC RIVER. AGAIN, WE COULD DO A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT THERE. BUT NOT COMPARED TO THE LAST. I THINK THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES. NO DOUBT. THIS IS SMALL PIECES. YES, I GET IT. SO MUCH GREATER. AND AGAIN, IT WOULD HELP CLEAN UP THAT ENTIRE AREA ALL DOWN WEST MAIN STREET BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE, THEY CAN'T DO A LOT OF THINGS. IF YOU HAVE A RESIDENTAL HOUSE THERE AND YOU HAVE BUSINESSES ON BOTH SIDES, IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE. AND ONLY THAT GROUP OF WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS ON THOSE COTTAGE AND WINDOWS. SO I HAVE TO ASK YOU. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE PIECES ON CROMER. JUST PAST THE RARELA TRACKS WAS NOT INDUSTRIAL AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN IT BECAME INDUSTRIAL? ON YOUR MAP IT SHOWS IT AS THE NEW YELLOW LINE NOW DROPS DOWN AND PICKS UP NAPA AUTO PARTS AND THE SMALL PIECE ACROSS CROMER. IT'S KIND OF LIKE SPOT ZONING. I MEAN, TO PICK THIS UP. OUT OF ALL THIS LAND, IT JUST MADE THAT SPOT INDUSTRIAL. WELL, IT PICKED UP THAT BIG INDUSTRIAL PIECE THAT'S THERE WHICH IS NAPA AUTO AND THE SOME KIND OF TRACTOR SUPPLY. OH, I MEANT, YEAH, I WAS LOOKING AT IT. AND IT PICKS UP THE JUNKYARD. YEAH, I WAS GOING FURTHER. I'M SORRY. I WAS GOING FURTHER. SO THAT'S. NO, IT'S ON THIS MAP. I'M SORRY. SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER POSSIBLY ADJUSTING THAT MAP AND COMING DOWN WEST MAIN STREET AND CONNECTING THESE INDUSTRIAL LOTS. SHH. I AGREE WITH YOU. 100%. I'VE ASKED FOR THIS LIKE A WHILE BACK TO DO THAT BECAUSE, AGAIN, THERE'S SO MUCH COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL ALREADY. AND THEY'RE PRETTY BIG LOTS. AND IT'S NOT LIKE YOU CAN BUILD GIGANTIC FACTORIES THERE EITHER BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BIG ENOUGH TO DO THAT AS WELL. THE SIZE AND THE RESTRICTIONS ARE STILL IN PLACE. SO IT JUST GIVES YOU MORE. YOU HAVE MORE OPTIONS ON WHAT CAN BUILD. AND THIS, AGAIN, IS A BIG PROBLEM. I MEAN, IT'S A BIG PROBLEM. YEAH. AND IT'S SUIT PROPERTY. SO IT'S PERFECT FOR COMMERCIAL. WELL, IT'S SUIT UP TO BLACKMAN'S RIGHT NOW, RIGHT? WELL, IT'S SUIT DOWN. IT DOESN'T EXACTLY REACH BLACKMAN'S. BUT I DID PETITION THE TOWN AND I PETITIONED. I WENT THROUGH THE SUIT DISTRICT. AND I PAID THE FEE TO H2M NOVEMBER LAST YEAR. AND I KNOW THEY'RE VERY BUSY. BUT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS MAPPING PLAN FOR A YEAR NOW. SO HOPEFULLY I HEAR FROM THEM SOON. AND THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY WILL BE IN THE SUIT DISTRICT. AND I CAN SEE THAT SOMEBODY WANTS TO DO A SUPERMARKET FURTHER NORTH AS WELL. SO THEY WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO EXTEND THE SUIT THERE AS WELL. THAT WOULD BE THE LAST PIECE. THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S OWNED BY RIVERHEAD FOOD MART. AND AFTER THAT IT'S THE COUNTY OF SUFFOLK GOING INTO THE COMMERCIAL PIECE. THE WAY I SEE IT, THIS IS THE GATEWAY TO DOWNTOWN RIVERHEAD. AND PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING THROUGH THIS AREA, THAT ARE COMING FROM OUT OF TOWN, THEY'RE GOING TO BE COMING DOWN WEST MAIN STREET. THIS AREA HAS THE POTENTIAL TO ONE DAY IN THE FUTURE BE BEAUTIFUL. TO HAVE HOMES ALONG THE RIVERFRONT, RESTAURANTS ALONG THE RIVERFRONT. WE'VE SEEN WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO ON THE RIVER SIDE OF THIS AREA, THIS STRETCH. AND I DON'T WANT TO SEE A BUNCH OF COMMERCIAL COME INTO THIS AREA. IT... ONE... WHEN WE BUILD IT OUT, WE LOSE THE INTEGRITY OF WHAT COULD BE DOWN WEST MAIN STREET. SO I AM NOT IN SUPPORT OF HAVING THAT CHANGED TO COMMERCIAL. YEAH, I'M ONLY SUPPORTING THE EAST SIDE OF THE ROAD, BY THE WAY, NOT THE WEST SIDE ALONG THE RIVER, WHICH HAS A LOT OF HOMES. BUT THERE CAN BE HOMES ON THE RIVER SIDE OF WEST MAIN STREET. AND THEY DON'T WANT TO BE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM A BIG COMMERCIAL BUILDING. WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE OF RIVER HAT, NOT FOR THE NEXT YEAR, NOT FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THE NEXT TEN YEARS. WHAT OUR KIDS, OUR GRANDCHILDREN ARE GOING TO HAVE LEFT OF THIS TOWN. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. AND IF IT WAS RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY, I MIGHT AGREE WITH YOU. I DOUBT I WOULD, BUT I MIGHT. BUT IT'S NOT. IT'S RIVER FRONT CORRIDOR PROPERTY. SO IT IS COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. ALL I'M SAYING IS THERE'S MORE USES, BETTER USES, MORE ATTRACTIVE USES. IN THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL THAN WHAT'S BEING ALLOWED THERE NOW. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A HOUSE. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A HOUSE. IT'S NOT ZONED FOR A HOUSE NOW AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE. I'M JUST SAYING TO CHANGE IT FROM RIVER FRONT TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL. SO. IF YOU GO BACK TO THE BOA STUDY, I WANT TO SAY MAYBE 2014, DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT YEAR. BUT THE BOA STUDY RECOMMENDED LOSING EVERYTHING. AND I THINK THAT'S THE BEST THING. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANYTHING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MAIN STREET IN THAT AREA. AND LET DEVELOPMENT HAPPEN ON THE NORTH SIDE, BUT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT. AND THAT WAY IT WOULD OPEN IT UP. THE BEAUTY OF THE RIVER WOULD BE OPENED UP FROM THE SOUTH SIDE. AND IN DOING THAT, THEY WOULD GET CREDITS FOR MORE DENSITY ON THE NORTH SIDE. AND THAT'S WHAT THE BOA STUDY RECOMMENDED. AND I'VE ALWAYS KIND OF AGREED WITH THAT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS ALWAYS A NICE WAY FOR IT TO GO. You drive into many towns, whether it's upstate or New Hampshire, Vermont, or wherever, you come in, and if you're coming in alongside a river, it's really pretty, really beautiful. What we have right now is absolutely not. And even if you went further commercial, commercial, sure, it gets a nice, pretty facade on it today, but five years from now, you know, commercial takes wear and tear on properties, and we don't see them kept up quite as well as we do residentials that people have invested their money in. So I would favor keeping it more residential there and opening it up to the river to make it a scenic drive coming into the town instead of what we see now. I would say that was the plan, the master plan from 2003 aimed at that, and here we are in 2024. You don't have any new residences. You don't. You have nice commercial buildings being built down there by investors that want to come in and do it. So we'll be back in 20-something years at this rate because it's never going to be. With the restrictions that's put in by the DEC, the restrictions that are put in by the town, it should be built out with commercial uses, which it will be because, again, it's commercial now, and it will go on being commercial. We just have less choices of what we can put there. Thank you. Thank you, Ray. So, Matt, can you just question in terms of what's there? Like, is preexisting, does it become preexisting nonconforming? And what happens if there's similar uses? So anything that's being rezoned that's not going to be a conforming use and whatever it's being rezoned to will become a preexisting nonconforming use, so they would still enjoy the rights to their business. This whole section of West Main Street, it's largely not industrial. It's either PRC, but it's in what's called the WSRR, the Wild Scenic River, or it's an over-the-over's overlay area from the DEC, so it's a very environmentally sensitive area. It's just not an appropriate place for more industrial zone properties. And like Councilman Waski said, this is the gateway to downtown. There's so much potential. So a lot of these uses, like the Blackman site, these are preexisting nonconforming sites now. They're not zoned industrial. How does that impact? So, like, Blackman Plumbing, if something is going to change, if there's a similar type of... So they'd have to, they could go from one preexisting nonconforming, nonconforming use to another. That's a, I believe that's a special exception from the zoning board. If there's already a preexisting use, they would get a special exception to potentially expand it. That's an action before this board. So there are avenues to still, you know, survive and succeed with a business of that way, of that nature. But, you know, it's really our goal to phase these preexisting nonconforming uses out and get conforming uses in. PRC does allow commercial uses, just not industrial uses. Yeah, you know what, I meant to say commercial. I didn't mean to say industrial. What about land transfers, like real estate transfers? And from one owner to a new owner, do they lose everything? Or as long as it's still similar use? If it's the same use, they would maintain it. So if it's a, I mean, it's a legal question. Like, I don't really want to wax too poetic on that. But Blackman's a preexisting nonconforming site now. So they would enjoy that, the right to maintain that. But if they wanted to change to another use, like I said, they'd have to get a special exception. Sorry, yes, a special exception or to expand a special permit. So there's avenues to still, to stay. But it's more of a process because it's a nonconforming use. So someone can still proceed but through a special permit? Correct, or a special exception depending on what they're doing. Yeah. Okay. All right? Okay, thanks. Do we have anybody else who would like to comment on any of these? Okay, nobody online. Claudette, how are you? I'm good. Evening, everyone. Claudette Bianco, Baiting Hollow. I just want to say we have the best planning board. We have the best planning board in any town, anywhere. They've done an enormous amount of work. I compliment them all. I do have a question though. Is there a place on the town website where there, like this chart that lists what's allowed and what's not allowed, is there a place that lists all of the applicants that have proposed developing something in our town that we could go to and see? What's being proposed? Not yet. But we're in the process of, number one, redoing the town website. And we should have it done within the first six months of next year. Okay. And in doing that, we've had conversations with planning about putting much more information up that's user-friendly. Because right now, it's really tough, quite honestly, to find anything on that website. I know. I have a hard time finding anything on it. On that, could we have, like, whatever the developer is proposing and where, and maybe what stage they're at? That's kind of... That's kind of what we talked about, yes. Having it so you can go right into it, the John Q. Public, and look it up and see what's coming down the pike, where exactly they are, yes. Right. What developers have brought proposals to town, where there are, if it's being, you know, considered. This way the public can engage right from the beginning. So we're not, people don't feel like we're forcing something down their throat. It will be, the public will have transparency to see what it is it's coming in, when it's coming in, and what the proposals are. Right. I mean, right now, you have to wait until they build a building and stick a sign on it to know what's going on, if you don't come to the meetings, and you don't follow. And a lot of people don't go to the website, or they talk to their neighbors. We realize we can do a much better job with that, and we are going to do that. Well, better, but, I mean, an additional thing that's a resource for the town and its residents is a good thing. Thank you. You're welcome. And I just want to say, although we have a wonderful planning board, we have an excellent planning department. Sorry. I meant to say. I don't get that. We figured that, but they're both very good, so. Thank you. For the record, Greg Bergman, Senior Planner with the Riverhead Planning Department. I know it was not done intentionally. I did hear tonight Dawn's name mentioned, my name mentioned, and Matt's name mentioned. We'd be remiss if we didn't acknowledge Heather Trojanowski as well. Completely agree. She's a valuable asset to the department. You know, we are a team. We all work together. No one individual stands out more than the other, so just want to acknowledge Heather for the work she's done. 100% agreed. Thank you for bringing that up, Greg. Go, Heather. We have nobody online, correct? Okay. Okay.

Good evening. Meredith Ritter. I live in Foxwood Village in Calverton. My letter went in late, so I just have a couple of little things that were bothering me. On the classes of districts, there's a list that gives you the new abbreviations for the new zones, so we can interpret the maps as we see. There's one zone that's called an industrial receiving district, which kind of mystified me. So if somebody maybe down the road could clarify or code it, I don't know what would an industrial receiving be. That's one thing. The other thing is about the Hamlet area in Calverton that's proposed. I went back to the comp plan, and I read a part of their recommendations. I'm going to read it to you. Real quick. This is directly from the comprehensive plan. Hamlet studies. It is recommended that the town work with residents in several Hamlet areas, such as Aquebog, Jamesport, Calverton, and Polishtown, to develop Hamlet studies with design guidelines or a pattern book for new development. Once developed, pattern books and or design guidelines should be adopted into the town code. These guidelines will serve as a valuable tool to guide and regulate development, ensuring that it aligns with the community scale and aesthetic. By providing clear and specific guidance for architectural design, landscaping, and urban planning, these resources will promote aesthetically pleasing, sustainable, and context sensitive development that enhances the overall quality of life for residents and visitors. That's the comp plan's recommendation, and when I look at that spot for the Calverton-Hamlet district, I see that it's a good place to start. I'll head over to head over to head over head over head head head head head head head head It just doesn't click for whatever reason. And there's a new project already proposed for that area. Down that end of Middle Country Road, we're also going to have HK Ventures coming in and a couple of other big things happening way down that end. And it doesn't even feel like in the center of Calvertown, or even close to where folks kind of hang out. Just a thought somebody maybe should consider. And the other thing, I'm going to go with Jen Hart. They go on the plans and landscaping. I know TDRs are critical for protecting of land. But it came up that the builders, you know, plan for their landscaping and that they'll do what they do and we'll just hope that they do it properly according to code. But I was thinking that going with native planting and using special design to help preserve the green in even the areas that are being built on, the builders have to budget in landscaping anyhow. And native plants, believe it or not, eventually become less expensive because they need less attention, less water and they thrive because they belong here. So not even just suggesting that type of work, but going more green and really pushing these developers to say, hey, it's time. And I'm told that there's funding. For them to do this kind of thing. For solar, for planting, for keeping it green. I think it's either the government or private entities who are offering grants so the builder could make money while he's, save money while he's planting on our properties. I think that Greg might be able to address that because that is something that the planning department does focus on very much. Okay. Thank you so much. Mrs. Ritter, I just want to commend you for the letter that you wrote. It was very well written. And I appreciate reading letters like that when they come in. So thank you. Okay. I'll keep trying. Thank you. Thank you. Very comprehensive.

Thank you. So to just clear up one of the, a couple of the points. The industrial receiving district that's listed on that classes of districts, the industrial receiving area is something that's already mapped within the town. It's located in town code section 301-2. If you go through that section, there's a lot of descriptions that references tax map numbers. I went through and mapped that area out. That description in 301-134A coincides and lines up with what is the proposed Calverton Industrial District. So that zoning district already exists. We're essentially just appropriating a, you know, assigning a value for a TDR to be able to develop, you know, additional area. Again, very important to note. Thank you. Thank you. And I think it's important to note that even with TDRs it would still yield a 25% reduction in what's currently allowed in that industrial A and industrial C. And then to the point of the, I believe Mrs. Ritter was referencing the zoning change that's happening over on the west side of Middle Country Road over by 25A, that gas station and that vacant, I believe it's about a 3.3 acre parcel of land. Currently zoned industrial B recommending the rezoning to Hamlet Center. It is directly adjacent to residential properties. It doesn't really make sense for it to be industrial B. On a 3.3 acre parcel of land, you're not going to see a really intense development. But I think there's just a little bit of kind of confusion between the Hamlet Center zoning district, the name of the zoning district, versus the Hamlet studies that were recommended in the comp plan. So. Thank you, Greg. Greg, if you could just address also the landscaping issue. That she spoke about. So landscaping is one, we have our resident green thumb, Heather. I defer all the landscaping. I mean, I know that something looks pretty or it doesn't. But in terms of species, anytime we get a landscaping plan, I kind of give it to Heather. She's very familiar with native plantings, what works, stuff that's drought tolerant, salt resistant, you know, would work well in areas that doesn't need significant amount of irrigation. So that is something we look at very, very closely. Thank you. She's so passionate about it. Yeah. She really is. Go up and check out her office. Heather has. She lives in a jungle. I love it. Heather has glow in the dark plants. Does she have? Yeah. She has one. Good evening. Takwee Turchin, resident of Riverhead, Calverton Civic President. Boy, there's a lot of thank yous going on tonight. And I'm glad to hear that. I want to extend mine not only to the town board, but to the community. I'm going to go ahead and get this one. [transcription gap] I'm going to go head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head work session. It was kind of serendipity that we timed it before we had the work session. We had our Calverton Civic CI Zoning Rewrite Committee, which Mary is on. And I wanted to thank Greg for accepting the sit-down. I've never done it myself. I just don't know if it's already happened before. It was very productive. People who were at that table, there were four representatives from our committee. We have a larger committee, I think it probably about eight people. Heather Chosen-Ossie was part of the sit-down. Councilperson Waski.

Dawn Carroll's triple hat that she wears. I never know which name to give all of the areas that she's looking over. And the four of us. So we had a really good exchange of information and a clarification of things that we didn't understand. And we're looking forward to possibly doing that more of that. We did cover a lot of territory. We know that you're listening. And as a parent and how there were very different conversations happening at the table, and that was good to see because we need to have that. We can't all agree all the time. We have to work things out. I want to echo Jen Hartnagle, who was part of that group, her concerns that she brought tonight, because those really did stand out for us. We set eight or so hard copy letters in the hands of Greg at that meeting. And I'm just a point of question for procedure. Do we need to have those resubmitted for the record to be included in this public hearing? I don't think that we submitted them. Okay. So we'll do that digitally. Sure. And one last piece of that meeting that we brought up that hasn't been mentioned yet, it was my suggestion that we look to the New York State laws that are going to be coming down the pike to us. There are deadlines as far as NYSERDA is concerned with energy consumption. And there are these codes that we need to be looking at that you can basically cut and paste. There's a one in particular is a reduction in the electricity used in the consumption of about 20%. I'm not familiar with it. It would be something I would go in and cut and paste and look at. But it is something we'd like to see because we're facing things in the future that we may be accountable for. And while we're doing green type things that don't really have definition, NYSERDA does have definition on what they'd like to see. And we could make very good use of that stretch code. So that I can submit in writing afterwards. And I'll like Jen had mentioned, I will be submitting a short one pager from us from that committee. Thank you very much. Before you go, I just wanted to say thank you for being a part of that meeting. And I look forward to doing that again. I think that it's so important that we do have communication because there's a lot of misinformation out there. People comment on social media and they're uninformed. They don't have a full understanding of everything that is being done. It's just not one part here and one part there. Dots have to be connected. And it's through conversation like we had that day that questions were able to be answered and light bulbs go off for all of us to say, oh, that's a good idea. Why don't we think about this? It was just great dialogue. And we need to have that more and less knee-jerk reaction out there because this is how we get things done. What's going on on social media, that's not happening here. We're the great people in this town that come down here and want to speak with us and interact with us. And that's why we're here. That's why we do what we do as a public servant. We're here to work with you and listen to you. So thank you for being a part of that that day. Thank you. You're welcome. And thank you for the collaborative effort. Thank you, Takwe.

We have anybody else who would like to comment from the audience? Chip, anybody online? Nobody online? Okay. Then I would like to close all these public hearings, keep them open for written comment again until December 2, 2024. And at this point in time, we're going to move on to comments on tonight's resolutions. Hang on one second. Did we miss this?

No, we did that. I don't know. Eric did it. When he talked about the odd and even years with the... Yeah, I meant to say commercial. I don't know. He just wasn't sure about the public hearing about the odd and even year. I said we did the... Do it. Yeah. Do the last week. A few weeks ago. Yeah, that's why I just didn't know it looked like it was part of this packet for today. It's coming off the table. No, that one's not coming off the table, right? Off the floor. That's not the one. I know the one's coming off the floor. No, this one is. Inadvertently putting this packet on the floor. Oh, yeah. All right. Well, that'll mock it up. I know. Two on table. We did that. We did that tonight. Okay. Comments on any resolution tonight in the packet? Any resolution on for tonight's town board meeting? Nobody online. Nobody in the audience. Okay. Well, let's move on to the resolutions. Sounds good. We'll start with resolution 919. 919. Wait a second. That is me. Author. Authorizes the removal of fixed assets. So moved. Second. Vote, please. Waskey. Yes. Merrifield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 920. Seward District Budget Transfer. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Waskey. Yes. Merrifield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 921. Ratifies the authorization for one Police Department employee to attend a training course. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Waskey. Yes. Merrifield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 922. Ratifies and accepts the resignation of a traffic control specialist. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Waskey. Yes. Merrifield. Yes. Kern. Yes. yes Rothwell yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 923 appoints a public safety dispatcher to the police department so moved second vote please waski yes Merrifield yes Kern yes Rothwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 924 accepts the resignation of a homemaker so moved second vote please waski yes Merrifield yes Kern yes Rothwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 925 like to make a motion for resolution 925 to be tabled this is regarding the rebid for the meeting house cream Creek stormwater wetland and habitat restoration project apparently all of the prices are not finalized yet and we want to get those finalized before we go to resolution so I would like to make a motion to table resolution 202 4-9 to 5 second vote please you can have a bit waski yes Merrifield yes to table Kern yes to table Rothwell yes the table yes the table resolution is tabled resolution 926 awards bid for one 2024 Mac model MD 6-4 to dump truck overhead water district so moved seconded by the head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head [transcription gap] bidders for construction of pump station at East Wing Drive town capital project number 19 so moved seconded vote please waski yes Murrayfield yes Kern yes Rothwell yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 929 authorizes notice of public hearing to establish fair and reasonable sewer rent for drive town facilities for calendar years 2023 and 2024 so moved seconded vote please waski yes Murrayfield yes Kern yes Rothwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 930. acceptance of Suffolk County jumpstart grant funding so moved second vote please uh waski yes Murrayfield yes Kern yes Rothwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 931 authorizes the supervisor to execute a second extension of license agreement and addendum with Island exterior fabricators so moved second vote please waski yes Maryfield yes Kern yes Rothwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 932 authorizes extension of time to remit real property taxes for senior citizens receiving enhanced store pursuing !

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moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so and set forth in article 2 3-c of the general municipal law so moved seconded vote please washi yes Murrayfield yes Kern yes Rockwell I mean this was openly important to increase police and infrastructure and so forth so it don't certainly don't take it lightly but it's necessary to increase our police presence and all the equipment that's necessary so vote yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 937 adopts town of Riverhead 2025 annual budget so moved seconded vote please washi yes Murrayfield yes Kern I'm gonna reluctantly say yes because there's amendments I'd like in here that not have not been taken care of but I will I know a lot of work went into it and I'll vote yes on it and in regard to those some of those things you'd be able to vote individually on coming up exactly right Rockwell it's so just to clarify within it in the in the budget originally is written it did give a salary increase that a board members which I don't support and I will not accept that known um so instructive financial administrator to not issue any type of tax salary increase to myself with that aside again everything in the budget is more than necessary to to do we have to do so I vote yes and Hubbard yes good job resolution is approved resolution 938 adopts a local law amending chapter 1 0 3 of the Riverhead town code titled town officers and employees article 6 term limits so moved second it vote please washi yes Murrayfield yes Kern yes Rockwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 939 ratifies and accepts the resignation of a traffic control specialist so moved second vote please washi yes Murrayfield yes Kern yes Rockwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 940 accepts donation from George and Janice Gabelson for the recreation of the recreation department thank you George and Janice for doing this so moved second it vote please washi yes thank you very much Murrayfield yes thank you again very much Kern yes Rockwell thank you very much yes and Hubbard yes thank you to the Gabriel sins very much appreciated resolution is adopted resolution 941 except donate a donation from Joseph see the Benedetti D Benedetto I'm sorry for the recreation department so moved second it vote please washi yes Murrayfield yes thank you Kern yes Rockwell thank you very much yes and Hubbard thank you sir we appreciate it yes resolution is adopted resolution not 863 863 okay we have to make a motion this is was tabled at a prior meeting so we have to make a motion to untable it to vote it motion motion yep second second okay Kern washi to the head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head wasky take a vote right take it first to untable it yes to untable Merrifield yes to untable Kern yes to untable Rothwell yes to untable Hubbard yes my resolution is untabled now it's up for the vote accepts resignation and appoints member to the town of Riverhead Industrial Development Agency so moved second vote please wasky yes Merrifield yes Kern yes Rothwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted then again resolution 880 okay 880 was tabled also at a prior meeting and I think we don't have to untable this one do we if we're gonna reject it should untable it and move it vote and put on table the same as we did yes okay this is just a housekeeping you're just right mm-hmm moving it off of the table until later date sure rather than keeping it tied up in the system okay can you do it go ahead and read it or we have to untable it just you can't rescind it because you've never adopted it right so all right the super phaser made in motion to untable second second vote please wasky no right no no this table table table table table table table table table table table table table table table table table table table table table table table table untabled and at your at your disposal that's really authorizes a supervisor to execute an agreement with hunk mobile USA LTD so moved second vote please now waski no Murrayfield no not at this time Kern no Rothwell no Hubbard no just to be clear this has to do with the paid parking that we're looking to implement and the trial run that we want to do but because of the time of the year and we didn't want to tie it up over Christmas we're gonna revisit this and implement the trial in the springtime so we're just voting it now down now so we get it out of the system otherwise we have things like lingering in the system that kind of clog up the the minute track system that we use so we're trying to clean some of that stuff up so that's the reason for now we will readdress this back in the springtime okay the motion did not carry resolution 942 ooh long one pays bills so moved seconded vote please waski yes Murrayfield yes Kern yes Rothwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 943 ratifies the approval for a leave of absence so moved second vote please waski yes Murrayfield yes Kern yes Rothwell yes Hubbard yes as a resolution is adopted resolution 944 reappoints Brian Mills to the Board of Assessment review of the town of Riverhead to continue to sue se serve serve oh I don't know it's new one I thought that there is a lingo it ran out of ink so move seconded vote please waski yes I had the opportunity to serve on the Board of Assessment review with mr. Mills and he does a fabulous job and I'm happy to see that he's staying on with us so yes Murrayfield yes Kern yes Rothwell thanks Brian yes Hubbard yes he's been on for some time and he has done an excellent job like Joanne said so I'm glad he's sticking around yes resolution is adopted resolution 945 ratifies the appointment of a geographic information systems technician the third so moved happy to second this vote please waski yeah yes yes board absolutely yes Rothwell I would like a detailed explanation from councilman Kern on what a geographic information system technology actually it's an alien position they come down from another planet it's something that has been absent in this town's employment force for some time and it's going to make a huge difference for a lot of difference for a lot of our department so like when Jason blizzard asked me to explain that was a very very broad explanation very interesting the work she does I will tell you that to answer your question Jason blizzard was doing some GIS work yeah and so it's really like like mapping the town etc etc and this is something that supervisor said that is lacking here and other towns in the area and I think it's a very important thing to do and I'm so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so authorizes the supervisor to execute an addendum to the license agreement with DMS apex holdings LLC what this is about is it was an authorization for the agreement a license agreement I believe that we have with skips driving school if you remember months back they wanted to use a portion of the runway up at EPC al to hold a driving school up there and we agreed to it we got everything together and it just kind of went on they were a little slow and getting paperwork to us but they have everything up to date all caught up and I guess they're looking to get started this weekend so that's why we're gonna make a motion to take this off the floor second just by way of explanation we've been working on this addendum what it does is it extends the term of the agreement through the end of next year but it also increases the monthly rent from six thousand a month to seventy five hundred a month and my office was notified this afternoon that they wanted to proceed with the agreement and schedule scheduled this class this weekend so that's why it's a little bit out of the normal procedure but because the town board previously authorized the agreement I didn't think that it was a terrible procedural move to have this pulled off the floor tonight you have additional copies of the resolution for anybody who's interested in seeing it absolutely would anybody like to make a public comment regarding this resolution we're about to take off the floor I think we got a boat to take it off the floor first off you have to do that sorry all right well the supervisor moved in Rothwell seconded to take it off the floor right so we'll do a roll call vote for that wasky yes Murrayfield yes Kern yes Rothwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is alive do we have anybody in the room that would like to comment on this or anybody online who would make the comment like to comment on this resolution nobody online not seeing anybody in the room okay I got to make one comment. Sorry. Okay. Okay. So just for the record when we're talking about the PRC code I said I support industrial area I totally misspoke commercial which is there and I continue to support commercial not industrial and on West Main Street we got a vote on this first. Oh I asked you if I could make a comment. I had a move on the floor I haven't had a move in a second. Alright go ahead hit it. Authorizes the super vote. Supervisor to execute an addendum to the license agreement with DMS Apex Holdings LLC so moved. Second. Vote please. Wasky. Yes. Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Resolution is adopted that was real nice speech there Bob. That concludes our resolution. Skip Barber really wants to hear about commercial zoning. That concludes our resolutions. Now I'm going to open it up to questions. I'm going to turn it up to comments from the public on any matter. Do you want to go up to the podium? No thanks. Good evening. Taki Turchin, Greater Calvary and Civic Association President. I was reading number 29 the 945 ratifying the GIS system technician and I was cautiously optimistic. Boy it really does sound like we're going to have that digital system available to us on land use in Riverhead with our zoning goals. Thank you. So we're going to have to continually rely on Suffolk County which is by Bible almost on the daily. Which does me no good in Riverhead as far as transfers of title or in the lot coverage. Yeah. Okay. So how large is but the zoning code doesn't do me any good. So question. Is there a time frame on when we think that might be up. Because I know Jason did do quite a lot of work in the engineering department on it. So. [transcription gap] So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. So. [transcription gap] So, Tuesday afternoon. Yes. It's going to, you know, it's going to take her a while. I mean, this is our first GIS person, so it is going to take a little time. But, you know, Jason did do the fundamentals though on building blocks so that she can take up, she's not starting at scratch, right? She's taking up where he left off, right? Yeah, but Jason really wasn't a GIS person. Right, right. He just dabbled in it. Right. He really wanted to be an engineer, so it would be, she's picking it up from ground level up. Okay. It would be really interesting to hear whatever she has to say as far as projections, even if it's just so general because I got to tell you, it's going to set my year. Really. Oh, me too. Not only 24, I mean, you know, 25. So thank you very much for dedicating those funds to be able to have a person like this. My one question would be, is this going to be a service that is of no charge to residents on our website so that we can interact on properties that, you know, that are not in full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full [transcription gap] full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full full to use it commercial accounts I don't know what they do with their residents we're gonna look at that and figure out how we want to do that but I really put in just the plug for if we found enough money to hire this person let's make this as accessible as possible because there's so many people who can benefit from it and raise us up a level we haven't seen yet thank you so much thank you so much Thank You talk yes sir just want to in keeping with the theme of tonight thank the board for your name Mike Sanchez from Zofa Mills Road waiting River for taking the position that you did tonight with respect to the cell tower and looking at the information that you received the group waiting River community action committee is also hoping that you take a look at the memorandum that we submit to the board and we'll be able to submit it to the district head head head head head head head head head head head head head There's a lot of growing concern out there. I think now people learning about the size and scope of it. I'm sure you're going to hear more about that. But to echo what Councilwoman Waski said about policymaking and about generations to come, I think you wouldn't want a 213-foot cell tower on the riverfront. It wouldn't do anything for the aesthetic beauty there. It wouldn't do anything for the property value there. And it's not going to do anything for the historic district, the Wading River, or the properties that are going to be impacted by that. So my hope is that beyond just taking a pause, that we really rethink what we're doing because we are going to change the aesthetic look, the character, feel, everything about what we do in that special section of Wading River. Again, have had very little sleep since our last meeting, so doing a lot of reading. And one thing that came up in all of that was something that in terms of policymaking is precautionary principle. And essentially it's, it says that if you're going to do something with regard to any decision, that it ensures that the public good is represented in your decision making when there's substantial uncertainty or disunity between the constituencies that you serve and the municipality and the risks and the benefit of a proposed activity. And that the policy decision should then be made in a way that errs on the side of caution with respect to the general public and not a special interest. And I don't regard the fire department as a special interest. They are a special group of people to all of us. And we are wanting to make sure that whatever is needed to correct whatever concern is there, that we work together. And I don't think we've done that to this point. And I hope if we take this pause, we'll be able to do that. Thank you. Mr. Sanchez, if I could ask you, you represented an organization. What organization did you refer to? Again, it's a newly formed organization. It's Wading River Community

Community and Community of the City. Right. And it's a community organization. And it's a community organization. And it's a community action committee. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. [transcription gap] Okay. I know it's been a long evening. I don't know who to address this to. Say your name again. Linda Nemeth. I'm sorry. From Calverson. Along Mill Road from 58 up to that crossroad of Middle Road, the grass and sandstone, so much so that the headstones are slowly slipping off. headstones so I didn't have clear headstones so I didn't have clear headstones so I didn't headstones so I didn't have clear headstones so I didn't have clear headstones so I didn't [transcription gap] that the shoulders are literally disappearing. And I'm watching bike riders who have used that as a bike ride. I ride a bike crazily. I walk there. It's getting really, really bad. And there's a... Location again? You know where Foxwood is? The middle or the middle? Especially there. Before we stop there. The police stopped somebody. They drive up on that Foxwood green. Okay. But the grass has grown so far. Plus there's an incredible drainage problem there. I've spoken about it before. There was a drainage area put off on the east side of the road. But on the west side of the road, almost at middle, there's a huge area. There's a drain that was put in. I don't know what it's draining to because it doesn't drain. And then in the winter or icy weather, that water encroaches almost all the way to the other side of the street. So that's somewhat of a hazard. The other issue, again, with the roads or... This is on 58, so I don't know what you have to do with that. But especially in front of the Harley Davidson, nobody clears the grass or the sand. Now there are a couple of people who have wheelchairs and walk from Millbrook, et cetera. And they try to get along there. They have to go over that sand, over that grass. I'm concerned about that becoming an issue where they don't maintain their sidewalks. I don't know who's in charge of that. Can I just make a recommendation to you? Sure. So as a liaison to the Traffic Safety Committee, so generally we kind of address roadside hazards, request stop signs, speed, all those things. So even drainage is often a concern. But it's a good opportunity. Our next meeting is on December 5th. It's here in this room at 8.30 in the morning. But residents are welcome to come. Well, we start... Yes, yes. No, no. We got work to do. We got to get up and go. I'll try. But residents can come and express concerns about specific traffic safety issues. And I think that's really what... That's the place for. ...you're doing right now. But the reason why I say it's good to come to that meeting, not that I wouldn't forward your message right now here, but it's nice that you have the highway superintendent, the police chief, myself, and other members present sitting right here around this table. Good. And a lot of us kind of work very cohesively together to kind of solve some of these problems. So I would encourage you to come to that meeting. Date, again, 8.30 you said? Sure. It's December 5th... 5th. ...at 8.30 here in this room. Thank you. I will try. Thank you very much.

And can I write a letter? Yes, you can. ...that would be able to be read? Yep. And it would be as many specifics as you can. So if you can't attend the meeting, yes, you can put it in writing. You can email it to myself. And then I'll bring it up on your behalf. Just have your contact information as well, okay? Sure. Perfect. Okay. We have... Okay. We have... Okay. We have... Okay. We have... Okay. [transcription gap] being here so hi everybody well I'm not really educated on how town hall or town board works and nothing mucho conocimiento sobre este tema de town hall or the como trabaja este procedimiento but I was just wondering for my Latino community could you guys explain I'm not sure if this is the you know correct forum or placement in the agenda they are supposed to do this but I didn't know where else and I'm sorry for taking your guys this time I'm sure you want to go home but um we have a large Latino population so I thought it was really important especially for people like myself that we don't know we may not know we would like to know so that's all that was all my questions well thank you for coming down our the way we run a town board meeting just in a nutshell is as you saw tonight we have if we have public hearing scheduled we go through those we give the public an opportunity to talk on those then we go to our resolutions and we get the public opportunity to speak on the resolutions and then after we're done with the resolutions and we vote on them we open it again like we are right now we open it up to anything so if anybody wants to come and talk about something at a town board meeting that's not on our actual resolution list they can come more towards the end of the meeting and that's when we take conversations about anything so that's kind of how we run the meeting but we will if you have any questions or anything at all do not hesitate to reach out to us thank you I'm just gonna translate just in case there's someone out there that's watching but basically Monday I una agenda when the leg into Tennessee system as conversation is coming at the net durante todo el tiempo normal mental brain el piso or camino para la gente que quieren pregunta rotina in do das o algo pueden perontar en el fin de la agenda que tienen bueno ellos aqui en su eso papel well yeah. okay cool thank you so much for your time let you know that we have this board has been discussing about the Latino community that is present here in the town of Riverhead and we are working on different ways to make it easier and more accessible for you to obtain information in Spanish we're working on a new website that is also going to be able to be interpreted in several different languages so you know where we're really gearing everything up to make everyone feel included thank you so much and we take that I I don't you know I'm only speaking for myself but I'm sure you know a lot of like people's parents like my parents that they that there's a language barrier we have to get her passports all the way in New York City and I've I used to be a resident of Greenport and now Riverhead so now we have the it's either an embassy or consulate here right in Riverhead so that's how much the Latino community actually has grown in the past I would say 20 years since I've been here in the East End so I really appreciate the time for you guys you know responding sorry we also have an anti-bias task force yeah right and I think it would be great if you came to the next meeting which is actually a month from last night and it's at 530 at Town Hall in this room yes okay I mean I would I would I think they would love to meet you and and there's a variety of people from different all over the place but I think you would be good and also pay attention to our job openings where we're expanding you know we realized that that we need to have verbal communication here you know in Town Hall in the police department so you know you might want to check that out as well for when we do have positions open is that where you also have volunteers sure I'm going to be able to get that in the chat but I'm sure I'm going to be clear so she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's Well, no, we have volunteer stuff, but also what I think what the councilwoman is saying that we have job openings for bilingual speaking people, and I don't think enough Hispanics take the civil service test. Oh, yeah, that exists, yeah. And I think that's really important. Awesome. Because we have a great large population of Hispanic people, so. Yes. Also, I just want to mention on Thursday night, there is, you were making mention of a consulate here. The Guatemala Chamber of Commerce is having an event at Atlantis. Actually think I'll be attending that as well. I will be too. Oh, I'll see you there. I'll see you there. I'll see you guys there again. Okay. Awesome. Thank you so much for responding. Really appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Thank you. Okay, we have one online. Okay. We'll head over to you guys next. Okay. Thanks so much. [transcription gap] can you hear us sid there he is we can't hear you he needs a cell tower

that's pretty much you look good sir we just can't hear you sid can you hear us sid nod your head if you can hear us we he's in waiting river it's a signal problem it's it's it's a little humorous signal said problem

we can't hear you sid maybe he should just restart and try to get back on

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sid has a fan club here should we come back to him and let looks like it's fading away all right if you can chip if you can communicate with him we're going to do the cda meeting real quick because i think that's very short and uh if he can hang on we'll take him after that okay all right i'd like to make a motion to close the uh portion of the town board meeting and open up the community development agency meeting second i vote aye okay all in favor aye all opposed okay all in favor of the town board meeting open we have a hot agenda tonight of nothing so uh we would want to uh take open open comments on cda matters only okay if there are any do we have anybody who'd like to have a comment on cda matters nobody online not seeing anybody here okay so we can close the cda meeting and reopen the town board meeting i just need a motion a second on that motion to close second wasky yes mary phillips yes everybody yes yes okay uh favor aye there we go all right so cda meeting closed town board meeting back back open okay talk we were you getting were you getting up to come up forward okay okay um can we try sit again he's he's gone he's well kind of he's freeze-framed up here he's kind of trying to get through maybe you're right about the signal yeah okay all right get rid of anybody else up barbara come on barbara go ahead come on barbara come on down i don't get it you're surprised with yourself good evening barbara blast james port just a couple of things that i i thought i would comment on uh that came up this evening the first was that she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she's she like everything else, it really takes conscious action. It's going to happen. Okay, but it's a great idea, and it really would be very, very helpful to the public. Another thing is that I know we've talked about from time to time, and Bob, I think you've mentioned it, Councilman Kern, how did the FAR in the industrial zone ever get to be 40 when the comp plan recommended it at 20? The answer came this evening. It was supposed to be 40 with development rights, and the dimensional chart, that's why it was an industrial receiving area. The dimensional chart never put that up there. It was to go to 40 with TDRs, and it's the exact opposite of what happened downtown. The dimensional chart for the downtown had TDRs were required to go to 60 feet or five stories. It was on the dimensional chart, but it was not in the text. The exact opposite of what happened in Calvaryton Industrial. So, and because it wasn't in the text, and it never got corrected, all of the buildings that ended up being built, two five stories downtown never needed to purchase TDRs. It was on the chart, you know, and I could show you the chart, and I could show you where it all came from. It was, yeah, that answers that question. I'm going to tell you something. I'm so happy to hear this. I wish this happened like a week or two ago, because I've been fighting to go to .35, and Greg Bergman was right. He showed me the burnt CD. We can never figure out how it got to four. Now you've solved the mystery. That was the reason. Thank you very much. I really appreciate that. Barbara, thank you. This is all that I've been hearing. We can put that one to rest. I appreciate that a lot. You're very welcome. Thank you. Another thing, just very quickly, and I won't belabor the point now, but I am going to be sending a letter to you urging you not to schedule a public hearing yet on Island Water Park. Allow that matter to be adjudicated in the courts first. There's a whole list of reasons that I think may make some sense to you. Maybe not. But I would just at least ask you to consider the big picture there. And I will be more detailed about it and communicate with you. I'm not sure if you have any other questions. I'm just going to go back to the question that I had in writing. I don't believe it will be on the menu and on the schedule until after the first of the year. Okay. But the next court appearance is until April of 2025. And while I respect Counselor's position that the matters are separate, I do recognize that a civil action before the Supreme Court is separate from a site plan. I appreciate that. I do. [transcription gap] Yes, absolutely. Thank you very much. I appreciate your time. Happy Thanksgiving. Thank you. You too. Thank you, Barbara. We have one online? Sid is back. I don't think he ever left. I think we could probably drive to his house by the time he gets here. I don't think he ever left. I'm back. We can hear you, Sid. Go, Sid. I'm proving my technological ineptness time and time again here. You sound like a genius. I'm a genius. [transcription gap] The Riverhead Town Board is being asked to hold, you did already hold, a public hearing for the purposes conducting the Moreau balancing test. Following the public hearing, the Town Board shall issue a written determination as to whether and to what extent the subject application shall be exempted from the zoning and land use regulations of the town. The Town Board's determination should be based upon a full and complete vetting process and not just on the tests and data Elite Towers has submitted. What is needed is another set of independent experts to evaluate the application. For example, in 2016, Shelter Island Town Board hired an independent consultant to vet and evaluate. 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All equipment lighting would be downward facing and shielded to prevent spillover to nearby properties and adjoining roadways. Additionally, a red light will be installed on the concealment pole to comply with federal aviation requirements. Now, for those of the people in the public, what does the Federal Aviation Administration have to do with this proposal? It's the height of the tower and the antenna. It's above 200 feet. That's why the FAA will require some sort of lighting, etc. It's interesting to note that on the October 1st town board meeting, a copy of the final environmental assessment form was included in resolution 38 authorizing lead agency status in the review. But it's interesting to note that the reference to outdoor lighting was truncated and the response was not included. And all it said was lighting may be installed for future wireless carriers on the rooftop equipment. All right. For whatever reason, the response had not included the relevant issues of downward facing lighting and the federal aviation requirements. It's reasonable to assume that residents would have an interest in having more information regarding the extent of outdoor lighting and the potential of the [transcription gap] [transcription gap] . . . . . . . . . . . . .

require high visibility paint rather than neutral coloration on the concealment pole these are issues that are important to many residents uh it's a little consolation to many residents that the visibility associated with the concealment pole will be minimal or non-existent in parts of waiting River the most visually impacted areas will be near in or near the heart of the town created Riverhead historic district um well I guess what I'm saying is um the idea of an independent consultant to vet the application seems to be a good idea and it would also be wise to examine this issue thoroughly and impartially before a decision is made thank you for your attention and bearing with my technical inadequacies okay happy Thanksgiving same to you thank you thank you I know everybody wants to go home so do I uh Claudette Bianco Bading Hollow I want to thank and I'm sure everybody in this room does as well as all the people in the town the firefighting staff of all the towns that helped with their brush fire last week it was about a mile and a half away from my house helicopters all night long and I'm really grateful that they were able to put it out thank them for us because they're heroes in our book they did a fantastic job and they love our values all night long but it it was thank God it didn't spread and a fire Marshall and everybody multiple departments but they're heroes absolutely thank you and was there fighting it thank you I saw you I will say though I have to I absolutely commend I mean we we do lots of mutual aides to help work departments all over Suffolk County and and you know just so you even if fire is not in our district and so like waiting River Actors and mutual aid to Riverhead I do have to commend Chief Renton Jr did like thorough well organized like when we went there everybody knew exactly what they had to do so I mean you know Suffolk County sends out you know their their team as well to oversee but um I also not only just the firefighters but our Highway Department was there as well providing additional fuel for our vehicles throughout the night it was the whole concerted effort and it was wasn't for those people volunteering their time and their their safety the rest of us we wouldn't have our homes because we were really close Chief Renton did an awesome job well organized very very extreme very professional grateful to have them thank you thank you for bringing that up for that and since you brought that up we should really recognize the people that lost their home today in Matatuck on Sound Avenue their home was fully engulfed this morning shortly after 9 30. and uh many fire departments from all around the area including Riverhead um I know James Port was there they responded and there was nothing that they could do the house ended up collapsing so there's people out there tonight that really could use our prayers so on behalf of this town board we'd like to uh let them know that they are in our prayers thank you Joanne all right with that we're gonna wish everybody a very happy nope are you inviting us to your house for Thanksgiving I was just inspired to remember what Bob Kern had mentioned to us uh or saw it on on social media when there's a fire in West Hampton Beach one of the historic um uh wood frame buildings were just destroyed I grew up there um my childhood is from West Hampton Beach and and it was a friend's store and and I just remember it from the 60s and the 70s and then the 80s and Bob said hey here's a good right you wrote on social media this is a good time I thought that was you so this is a good time since we're heading into the Christmas season to start looking at and sorting out when your children um have toys that they're not using or clothes that they're not using and parents go to buy children a lot of things that you go and look at those things and look to see if we can help folks in situations like you just mentioned of the folks in Matatuck just inspire you if you're listening right now um go ahead and go ahead and act act on that tonight and put it a bag and see how we can get it to them I didn't write that but I'll tell you that I I do give a lot um collect a lot of stuff and bring it to uh various places like thrift stores and the church and stuff like that sorry to misquote you I thought it was you but it's a good thing so well thank you I'd like to go with it remember that I don't know very easily thank you I'm just glad to know there's not too about current see see how much everybody knows plenty and there is industrial land there is industrial land also I did on on West Main Street just to keep everybody confused Happy Thanksgiving everybody thank you everybody for coming out tonight thank you everybody for tuning in um and we'll see you we have a motion all right we need a motion to close to town board so moved second all in favor aye opposed so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved 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