February 4, 2025 — Town Board

Town Board Meeting

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0:00Thank you.
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1:30I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
1:44Thank you, Denise.
1:49Okay.
1:54Councilman Rothwald.
1:56Yes.
1:57We have a member of the clergy here today.
2:00We do.
2:01We are honored to have here today Reverend Evans from the Wading River Congregational Church in beautiful downtown Wading River.
2:07So, Reverend, if you don't mind stepping up to the microphone, if you could just lead us in invocation this morning.
2:12And thank you for attending.
2:13Thank you very much.
2:16Let's pray.
2:17Almighty God, as we convene as a legislated body, we ask for your wisdom and discernment.
2:24Guide our decisions today as we seek to serve the people with justice and fairness.
2:28Let us always strive for a faithful response of our great Father and work toward the common purpose of a better future.
2:36We lift up our voice and pray the words that Jesus taught us.
2:41Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name.
2:45Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
2:50Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us.
2:57Amen.
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3:00Temptation but deliver us from evil for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever
3:06Amen, thank you
3:08Thank you. Thank you Reverend Reverend. Do I detect a little bit of an accent from somewhere or no?
3:15That's what I thought
3:17Where'd you grow up?
3:24Very good with it am e Zion churches
3:30Well, thank you for coming in doing this today. Thank you
3:34Okay
3:35Clerk what do we have any announcements and correspondence of correspondence?
3:39We received numerous correspondence all in relation to Scott's point all of that was
3:45categorized and clocked in and circulated all the board members and those planning and
3:51can be
3:53Seen on the website. I created a folder specifically for Scott's point to keep all correspondence
3:59And so that is
4:00segregated from everybody else just so they could see it. I know I got a email today from a
4:07Gentleman who sent in something at 429 on Friday and that wants to know why it wasn't part of the record
4:13So it is part of the record everybody that sends me something gets circulated immediately
4:18It's just whether the deadline that they can make it in this particular agenda for you to read but
4:24Anything they came in if the deadline will be in next next meetings agenda so you can read them, but they have been circulated
4:29And have been noticed and have been taken into account for made part of the file. So
4:35That's it for correspondence
4:37Reports the tax receiver collection report for 2425 was received at ninety five million three hundred thousand dollars
4:46And that was the only report that came in for this meeting and that concludes the reports and the correspondence
4:53Okay. Thank you
4:55Right. We have on the agenda today one public hearing
4:59Scheduled for two o'clock
5:00It is now 208 and the public hearing is regarding a water main extension on Forge Road
5:06And I would ask what our superintendent Frank Mancini to please come up to the microphone
5:19Hi good afternoon, I'm Frank Mancini from the Riverhead Water District
5:24so for today's public hearing this will be a
5:27extension of the district to
5:29Service the homes on Forge Road in Calverton. We call it extension 97. This is being done with the grant. We're really proud of this
5:36We've been working behind the scenes on this for years
5:39These these homes are exposed to PFAS like you've heard in the news and in for a relatively small amount of money
5:45We're going to be able to protect hundreds of people because the area
5:50includes three mobile home parks
5:52That have a couple hundred between them a couple hundred units
5:55So the work itself will involve
5:59The installation of twenty eight hundred feet of six and eight inch cement line ductal water main
6:05In that will include five fire hydrants to service that area
6:10The total cost of the work is about one point eight five million
6:15That's all the construction work. We have that in the grant. We have some engineering costs that are not
6:20Reimbursable that we're going to use CPF funding for and that's basically the gist of it
6:25The next step would be once we get this approved
6:28approved, we'll start on those, the engineering costs, which are bid specs and contract documents.
6:33They're very unique because the grant requires very unusual purchasing requirements with
6:38different types of contractors.
6:40Once we produce those documents, they'll be submitted by, to the regulators.
6:44The health department will approve the scope and that the work is done correctly.
6:48And we send the specs and contract documents to the grant people who also approve them
6:54to make sure that we're purchasing correctly and meeting the conditions of the grant.
7:00It's been a long time coming.
7:03This is, and this area is in particularly heavy in PFAS.
7:09So we know that.
7:10And this will be great.
7:11This will be like the cherry on top of the sundae when we get this done as far as our
7:17water problems in the town.
7:19You're right.
7:20And you guys should be commended because you guys paid for the map and plan.
7:23That is essentially the tool that we use.
7:24We shop for grants with, and nobody was in the newspaper screaming and yelling about
7:29this one, but, but you took action as a board to, because it was the right thing to do because
7:33they are, their water quality is far worse than other stories that have been in the news.
7:38Correct.
7:39So we're proud to get this done.
7:41And I want to thank CDA and, and the town attorneys and accounting because there's an
7:46enormous amount of work behind the scenes to get this money.
7:50They don't give it to you.
7:51It's a real grind to get it.
7:54Yeah.
7:54Good job, Frank.
7:55Yeah.
7:56No, thank you.
7:57We really appreciate it.
7:58It was a huge team.
7:59I'm like a tiny little part of it.
8:00My job is to build it when we get with the money.
8:04That, that'll do.
8:05Yeah, but you're a large part of this.
8:06You're a very large part of this.
8:07Okay.
8:08But we, we signed on for a commitment, you know, four years ago that we were working
8:11on this and we put this when we had the water forums and we searched out all these grants.
8:15Dawn Thomas and the CDA has been incredible for searching for these grants in and out.
8:19We sat through all the meetings and like you say, especially Emory has been working on the
8:23legal aspect and components.
8:24Yeah.
8:24With the entire, you know, Eric Howard and our, but just it's a long time coming.
8:30There's a lot of work to get where we are today and I think sometimes people say what's
8:34happening, what's happening, what's happening, but just, you know, the application process
8:37takes time for the review and waiting for the acceptance.
8:40So I think today is a great day to have this public hearing and I look forward to immediately
8:44moving on, you know, to, to approve it and let's get these pipes in the ground.
8:48Yep.
8:49That's sad.
8:50Nobody thought we could do it for the other 64 homes and we got it done.
8:52Yes.
8:53We're still working.
8:54This is on that list.
8:55So we're still working.
8:56We got, we need two more million, $2 million for river road.
8:58We're not done yet.
8:59This is the start.
9:00We still grinding away behind the scenes, accumulating money one piece at a time to
9:04help people.
9:05But I think we've made progress like never before.
9:07Yeah.
9:08So, and that's the entire town board has been committed to this.
9:10Yep.
9:11So it's a great day.
9:12It is.
9:13Mm-hmm.
9:14Anybody from the public have any questions regarding this public hearing or do we have
9:17anybody on line?
9:20See nobody in the audience.
9:23Nobody on line.
9:25Frank, thank you.
9:26Thank you.
9:27What I'll do is we'll keep this open for written comment for 10 days, which will lead us to
9:32February 14th, which happens to be the day before an important day.
9:36No, it is the day itself.
9:37We just get that mixed up.
9:39It's the 14th.
9:40Okay.
9:41So we'll keep it open until Valentine's day for written comment.
9:46And at this point in time, we have no more public hearings.
9:49So I'm going to go to comments on resolutions.
9:52Okay.
9:53Do we have anybody in the audience that has any comments on any of our resolutions today?
9:59Not seeing anybody.
10:02Do we have anybody on?
10:03Oh, we have one.
10:04Come on up to the microphone.
10:06State your name and the resolution you're looking to talk about.
10:12My name is Michelle Camp and I am here to talk about number 27, I believe.
10:19Can you pull the microphone down just a little bit?
10:21Yeah.
10:22It's okay.
10:23It's tough to hear you, Michelle.
10:24I'm sorry.
10:25Regarding item number 27, the ratification of a settlement with Victor Oziere.
10:33Mm-hmm.
10:34So that would be resolution 160.
10:36Yep.
10:37I didn't know anything about it except that I read an article in the Riverhead Local that
10:48Denise wrote, Denise Tavoletti.
10:50And I didn't know anything about it.
10:52I didn't know anything about the negotiations or anything, but I was around.
10:57I live right next door to Victor Oziere, have for 20 years.
11:03And I was there and was largely, I'm sure Mr. Howard may remember that I was a spokesman
11:13for our neighborhood, I suppose.
11:15And besides the...
11:17He had building violations.
11:19He had...
11:20You're familiar with this place, okay?
11:23Yep.
11:24He had building code violations.
11:27He had sewer problems.
11:31He had too many bathrooms.
11:32He had tons of things.
11:33And he was renting the property out as a short stay event venue, really.
11:40It has a lot of amenities.
11:44And he would have weddings and his limos and his buses.
11:49And Overlook Drive is a one-lane street that's largely unpaved.
11:53So it wasn't a welcome business in our neighborhood.
12:00But now he's moved.
12:03He sold the property.
12:05The town is looking to settle with him for what I think is a nominal amount of money
12:13compared to the money he made by the city.
12:17Okay.
12:18And he's made by ignoring the town and his neighbors, the money that he cost the town.
12:30There were property taxes.
12:32I mean, I could go on.
12:33A lot of it is not really relevant, I guess, to this particular settlement.
12:38But I think that giving a person who ran such an elaborate establishment and, I mean, obviously,
12:46and openly.
12:47Everybody could see it.
12:48Driving down Meeting House Creek Road or in the creek itself.
12:54It was in your face.
12:59It was, you know, go ahead and make me.
13:01You know?
13:02And when he finally did have to because of a lot of things.
13:07But there were noise problems and traffic problems.
13:10And, you know, he did this every weekend and sometimes for longer stays than that.
13:15Weddings, bridal parties, you know, everything.
13:18When he finally served and the action finally came, it cost everybody a lot of money, not
13:31to mention the pain and suffering of all of his neighbors, even people on the other side.
13:37And sometimes especially on the other side of the creek because sound travels out over
13:41the water.
13:42Like, it really does.
13:43I mean, it's just.
13:44It was like you're at a concert sometimes if you sat there.
13:49So, I just think for the establishment that he was running and the trouble he caused the
13:56town, the police had to come several times a week sometimes, sometimes twice in the same
14:02night.
14:03I think you're letting him off easy.
14:05I think it'll be a lesson to all those who would also like to violate the rules of the
14:12state.
14:13I think it's a lesson to all those who would also like to violate the, what do you call
14:20it, the 30-day law or whatever it is, I forget, that, you know, well, you can do it.
14:25You just be a little quieter, a little more polite, and invite your neighbors.
14:32And, you know, and that's all that it's going to take.
14:34I think that it's, I think he's getting away too easy.
14:37The resolution basically says that it's, you know, it's too easy.
14:41It's, you know, it's too much money and we might not win.
14:45But I don't know how, if he violated the building code, if he applied for a permit or he didn't
14:52apply for a permit, that should not be debatable really.
14:57If he has the proper sewage system, if he's got too many bathrooms, you know, all of those
15:03things should not really be debatable.
15:05They should be, he either did it or he didn't do it.
15:08And so, I don't know why you would be so insecure about that.
15:10You would be so insecure about winning.
15:12But anyway, that's all I have to say.
15:14I don't, I think, I think he's getting off easy and it's not fair to the residents who were.
15:21I'd say inconvenienced, but that underestimates it so much.
15:26I couldn't sit in my backyard and not be at his party, you know, even if I didn't, you know, of course I didn't want to be.
15:32It is, it was ridiculous.
15:34And it started during COVID, which made him, it was like a perfect storm for him because, you know,
15:39people weren't flying, people weren't traveling, but you could drive over there and it's, you know, it's a kitschy place, you know.
15:47I mean, it's like, I can't say that the place itself isn't something that young people would flock to, but that's not what we are zoned for there.
15:56So, thank you for listening.
15:58Thank you, Mrs. Camp.
16:02Do we have anybody else who would like to comment on this?
16:05I'll just say a couple things about it.
16:06Oh, sure.
16:07Okay.
16:08So, this property was as, I'm sorry, I forgot, what's your last name?
16:15Camp.
16:16As Ms. Camp said, this was a problem property.
16:19Our code enforcement officials attempted the Justice Court route to shut it down.
16:25Ultimately, we worked with PD to have the undercover officer do an actual in-person rental.
16:34The problem with transient rental cases is that, you know,
16:36you have to have a buy to clearly prove that it's a transient rental violation.
16:44The building violations are something separate, and whether he was being taxed appropriately or not, I can't really say right now because I don't know what the assessors had him assessed at.
16:57But just setting that aside, what we can't do in these types of cases is base penalties we seek on the property.
17:04Okay.
17:05So, what we can do is base penalties we seek on projected earnings and that, or assumed earnings that we just can't do it with the way that our code is written.
17:15Now, the amount that we arrived at for the settlement was after multiple conferences with the court, both the judge and both with the judge's law clerk.
17:27And typically, once you go down that line, you sort of get an idea of how far you're going to be able to go with the penalties.
17:33So, we're going to have to do that.
17:34And we're going to have to make sure that we're going to be able to get the right amount.
17:36So, we're going to have to make sure that we're going to be able to get the right amount.
17:38And we're going to have to make sure that we're going to be able to get the right amount.
17:40So, arriving at that figure, what, you know, isn't really a reflection of my happiness with the figure.
17:44But it's a reflection of my assessment of what I could expect if I kept pushing the case farther.
17:51And then just in toward that end, we've had since 2018 multiple transient rental cases that we've taken to Supreme Court.
18:02And that's a reflection of what I think is the highest amount settlement that we've gotten.
18:06There was a series of ones on Creek Road that we got between 5,000 and 20,000 on.
18:13And then there was another one on Tide Court in Wading River.
18:17And I believe that one was 15,000.
18:20So, when I'm assessing whether it's a reasonable figure, that, you know, those prior settlements play into that.
18:28And then the way the conversations with the court are going to be, I think, is going to be a reflection of that.
18:30So, I think that's a reflection of what I think is the highest amount settlement that we've gotten.
18:31And then the way the conversations with the court are going also play into that.
18:36And that's basically why we are where we're at.
18:44Counsel, my understanding is that person no longer resides there, correct?
18:48And that's in, yeah.
18:50And so, the other thing that plays into this is, so, typically when you take one of these cases in, the first thing the judge is going to ask you is, you know, okay, so what do they do to fix it?
18:59And you go through that.
19:00And he says, okay.
19:01So, what have they done to fix it?
19:02Well, in this instance, he did apply for building permits.
19:05I don't know if he closed those permits before or the next owner closed the permits.
19:09But those permits were pending at least at the time that he left town.
19:14Additionally, when you're working on these, so, he has a settlement here.
19:22And he's moved out of town.
19:24So, that, you know, that complicates litigation of the case going forward.
19:30And it also, and because the conduct has stopped and been addressed, you know, that lessens the severity of it in the eyes of the court and whoever you're making this case to.
19:46So, that's just a little bit of insight as to why the settlement is recommended as it is.
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20:28for highway equipment purchases so move second vote please
20:32Waski yes yes yes yes yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 135
20:41authorizes the removal of fixed assets so move seconded vote please
20:46Waski yes very few yes turn yes yes yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 136
20:55authorizes employees to attend the International Association of arson
20:59investigators IAAI conference 2025 so moved second vote please
21:06Waski yes very few yes yes yes yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 137
21:13amends resolution 202 5-9 for so moved seconded vote please
21:20Waski yes very few yes yes yes yes
21:24covered yes resolution adopted resolution 138 appoints a call in park
21:30attendant to the recreation department so moved second vote please
21:33Waski yes very few yes turn yes yes covered yes resolution adopted
21:40resolution 139 appoints a call in assistant recreation leader to the
21:44recreation department so moved seconded vote please
21:48Waski yes very few yes turn yes Rothwell yes
21:54resolution 138
21:54adopted resolution 140 appoints a call in park attendant to the recreation
21:59department so moved second vote please Waski yes very few yes turn yes Rothwell
22:06yes yes resolution adopted resolution 141 ratifies the rehire of call-in
22:13employees to the recreation department so moved second vote please
22:18Waski yes very few yes turn yes Rothwell yes covered yes resolution is adopted
22:24américans
22:25142 appoints a part-time office assistant to the recreation department so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved
22:31second vote please wasky yes very field yes turn yes yes yes yes resolution is
22:39adopted resolution 143 reappoints member to recreation advisory committee Savio
22:47so moved seconded vote please wasky yes Maryfield yes heard yes yes yes
22:54resolution is adopted resolution 144 terminates inactive employees from the
22:59police department so moved second vote please
23:03wasky yes very field yes yes yes yes got to change that terminology 145 accepts
23:14the retirement of a construction equipment operator so moved seconded
23:18vote please wasky good luck on your retirement jr yes
23:23very field yes yes Rothwell yes I wish
23:29the jr the best of luck I know he is fully involved with the Riverhead Fire
23:33Department doing great work over there so I know we'll see a lot of them around
23:36town but I wish you the best of luck in retirement thank you for your service
23:39yes and Hubbard yeah Thank You JR for your service current chief of Riverhead
23:45Fire Department right yes I know he's very active and busy with the fire
23:49department I know he's gonna stay active and busy with them but thank you again
23:53like everybody said for your service to the town best of luck to you I vote yes
23:57resolution is adopted
23:59resolution 146 accepts the retirement of a principal accountant clerk so moved
24:05second vote please wasky yes very field yes
24:09current yes Rothwell yes a bird another longtime worker for the town a lot of
24:17institutional knowledge going to be lost here Kathy Schroer has been in our
24:21accounting department for as far back as I can remember we wish her and her
24:26husband nothing but the best in their retirement
24:29thanks for their service vote yes resolution is accepted resolution 147
24:36authorizes submission of letter of intent and execution of contract by the
24:42supervisor for operation and maintenance grant program to New York State
24:46Environmental Facilities Corporation so moved seconded vote please
24:51wasky yes very field yes turn yes Rothwell yes a bird yes resolution is
24:57adopted resolution 148
24:59extends bid non pro tonque for two years and a half
25:02and the project is completed in the future I vote yes
25:04resolution is adopted resolution 149
25:29so moved so moved so moved so moved
25:42so moved
25:57so moved
25:57so moved
25:57current yes Rothwell yes yes resolution 150 words bid for census water meters
26:06and accessory equipment or reasonable equivalent and repair to meter reading
26:11equipment so moved second vote please wasky yes very few yes turn yes
26:20Rothwell just not a meeting if we're not giving something to Frank yes yes
26:25resolution is adopted resolution 151 resolute resolution calling public
26:33hearing regarding a capital improvement for the proposed electrical upgrades at
26:38plant number seven Riverhead water district project number 16 so move for
26:46second Mancini vote please wasky yes very few yes turn yes
26:53Rothwell yes
26:54Hubbard yes
26:55resolution is adopted resolution 152 authorized the town clerk publish and
27:01post public notice to consider a local law to amend chapter 229 of the
27:06Riverhead Town Code entitled excavation and grading section 9 thereof fees so
27:11moved second vote please wasky yes very few yes turn yes
27:17Rothwell yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 153 authorizes supervisor to
27:24execute polling
27:25clear head clear
27:27clear head clear
27:27clear
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27:34clear
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27:53application for Home Depot plant cells so move second vote please
27:58wasky yes Merrifield yes Kern yes Rothwell yes yes resolution is adopted
28:06resolution 155 ratifies the resignation of an accountant so moved seconded vote
28:13please wasky yes Merrifield yes turn yeah I just want to say Vincent I wish
28:21you well yes Rothwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 156
28:32authorizes continued service with municipal CMS LLC for website
28:37maintenance so moved second vote please wasky yes
28:41Murrayfield yes turn yes yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 157
28:51authorizes continued service with municipal CMS LLC for website maintenance
28:51so moved seconded vote please wasky yes Merrifield yes Kern yes Rothwell yes
29:04Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 158 grants chapter 229
29:11excavation exportation permit for a cauliflower square LLC northwest corner
29:16of old country road Mill Road Riverhead New York Suffolk County tax map number 600-101
29:21dash 11 so moved second vote please wasky yes very few yes turn yes Rothwell yes
29:29Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 159 ratifies acceptance of
29:36donation of temporary use of freezer trailer and senior center force I'm
29:42excuse me for senior center so moved seconded vote please wasky yes Merrifield yes and thank you
29:48yes and thank you
29:51so moved second vote please wasky yes Merrifield yes Kern yes and thank you
29:54so moved second vote please wasky yes Merrifield yes Kern yes and thank you
29:54so moved second vote please wasky yes Merrifield yes Kern yes and thank you very much Henry I'm Amy Kent head head
29:57very much Henry I'm Amy Kent head head Roth well yes thank you Kent head
30:00yep thank you mr. Hagee much appreciated resolution has been adopted resolution
30:07160 ratifies the settlement of legal action against canal house LLC doing
30:12business as Victor Ville by the sea and Victor Ortiz so moved seconded vote
30:18please wasky yes Murrayfield yes turn yes
30:23Rothwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 161 authorized
30:31supervisor to execute agreement with the interpreter are you interpreting for
30:43Justice Court Avalar Gonzalez so moved seconded vote please
30:49wasky yes very field yes turn yes
30:53Rothwell yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 162 authorized the
30:59supervisor to execute agreement with interpreter for Justice Court Rosalia so
31:03moved second vote please wasky yes Murrayfield yes
31:08turn yes yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 163 authorized the
31:16supervisor to execute agreement with interpreter for justice caught Castro to
31:23to a
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33:02so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved
33:10it vote please waski yes murray field yes absolutely kern yes and i want to thank code
33:18for really coming down on this quickly and and efficiently so yes for me rothwell yeah this is
33:26a drain on our police and fire services so thank you for taking action yes and hubbard absolutely
33:31yes resolution is adopted i believe there's one coming off the floor right go ahead yep so i just
33:38wanted to mention we had a little glitch in the system uh we had a great work session here a few
33:44weeks ago on the establishment of the hispanic development and power and education committee
33:49and so we kind of thought the resolution was in but with a little glitch but i want to get them
33:54started on their work so i would like to make a motion to bring off the floor resolution 2025-169
34:02establishes the town of riverhead hispanic development empowerment and education committee
34:06and appoints members
34:08we can provide a copy to the press as well for this motion to take it off the floor
34:13yes yeah second second vote please waski yes murrayfield yes kern yes rothwell yes
34:22hubbard yes resolution is off the floor okay read it again any public comment at all everybody
34:29yeah do we have any public comment on we have one okay go ahead on this
34:36is it on this resolution
34:38um no it isn't it isn't on this resolution i wanted to comment in general comments
35:04okay we'll come back to you in a minute kathy thank you
35:08okay um take this off the floor it's off the floor
35:13yep it's acted now who moves so i'll read it resolution 2025-169 establishes the town of
35:20riverhead hispanic development empowerment and education committee and appoints members so moved
35:25second vote please okay waski yes murrayfield yes kern yes rothwell great group of individuals
35:33absolutely yes hubbard yes and thank you ken for uh spearheading this thank you
35:38resolution is adopted that concludes our resolutions
35:44okay those are all of our resolutions now we're going to go to open comments from the public
35:49i will take kathy first and she's up on the screen thank you kathy mcgraw from northville
35:56i watched the work session last week on changing the town rules for meetings
36:01and curtailing the time for people to speak and i'd just like to make a suggestion to all of you
36:08so head over to head over head over head head head head head head head head head head head
36:14head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head
36:19head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head
36:26head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head
36:32head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head
36:34Supervisor, you went on and pointed out that reducing comment time to three minutes and
36:41eliminating the use of Zoom, except I think you said except for public hearings, would
36:48be right in line with all the other towns.
36:52But I would say to you, why not be a leader on this issue rather than a follower?
36:59Show the other towns and the people of Riverhead that you want to hear from your constituents
37:05and for meaningful opportunity to make comments, five minutes is much better than three.
37:14I understand that there are times and not even on a regular basis where you might have
37:19to scale back owing to large numbers wanting to speak.
37:25But I would guess if you looked back over the past year.
37:29the number that you would have to scale back.
37:29But I would guess if you looked back over the past year, the average number of people
37:29The average number of speakers probably is maybe 15, but I don't even think it's on average even 15.
37:36The average number of speakers probably is maybe 15, but I don't even think it's on average even 15.
37:40And even let's say it's 15 at every town board meeting.
37:44Cutting back to three minutes would save you all 30 minutes of time on average.
37:52So in the course of a month, you would be saving one hour of time if you let
37:59people speak for five minutes instead of three.
38:03And I guess the goodwill you generate by retaining the five minute rule would far outweigh the
38:10loss of that hour of your time.
38:14And similarly on the use of Zoom, I bet on average there are no more than two or four
38:19speakers and I'm probably the only one today.
38:23But if folks care enough to participate, even when unable to be at your meetings, why would you want to speak for five minutes instead of three?
38:29I don't want to deny them the opportunity to speak using this technology that we have today.
38:35My whole point here is that you have the opportunity to be a leader, not a follower, when it comes to allowing the public to speak at town boards.
38:46And I would urge you to retain your five minute rule and the use of Zoom, as well as having comments on resolutions and public policy.
38:56I believe the people of Riverhead will thank you for that.
38:58Thank you.
38:58[transcription gap]
38:59Thank you.
38:59Thank you.
39:00So, and I thank you today for this opportunity to speak with you through Zoom.
39:06Thanks a lot.
39:07Thank you, Kathy.
39:10I think as we all know, you can come down and comment or you can send written comment
39:17and it's always part of the record.
39:20So we're not really stopping people who can't come to a meeting from getting their comments
39:26being part of the record.
39:28But so many times we have instances with issues with Zoom and people not unmuting,
39:35people muting when they shouldn't be muted, again, vice versa.
39:39And to us, it's easier just to do this.
39:42And we don't necessarily have to have two people in the booth back there,
39:45pay two employees to be back there.
39:48One can handle it much easier when we're just doing it this way.
39:51So those were some of the considerations we made.
39:54And it's not about following or leading.
39:56It's about efficiency.
39:58And I think that's really what we stated here by looking at these new rules and regulations
40:04that we're considering adopting.
40:06And that's pretty much all I have to say on it.
40:09Honestly, Mr. Supervisor, when we have been having the five-minute rule,
40:17about two months ago, Ms. McGraw herself was on through Zoom
40:22and the five-minute warning came through.
40:24She continued to speak and you were pleasant enough
40:27to let her go on.
40:29That lasted for 16 minutes.
40:31And there were other people on other occasions that have sat through something like that,
40:36not at the hands of Ms. McGraw, but of other people that have come up.
40:39They've overstayed their time or people are calling in from Zoom in the comfort
40:44of their own home when there's people that are sitting here that have come
40:47out in 25-degree weather at nighttime that are unable to come up to the podium
40:52because it's taking too long for them.
40:54It's now 7.30, 8 o'clock.
40:56They should be in bed.
40:57They should be in bed at home going through their regular routine.
41:00I think that this is a way that we're able to hear from everyone in the community.
41:04It's not trying to make anybody not be heard.
41:07It's trying to let everyone be heard.
41:08And I think that it's very fair.
41:10I know that if somebody that isn't here all the time comes up and they go over there three minutes,
41:16I know that you'll be generous enough to give them a little bit of extra time
41:19to be able to say what they need to say.
41:21This is a way to incorporate everybody into our meetings in a timely fashion.
41:26And I fully agree.
41:27I fully support moving this forward.
41:30And she spoke clear and precise of her opinion today in just two minutes.
41:34Well, the minute's a spare.
41:36I mean, when you think about it, three minutes is quite a long time to get your point across.
41:43And oftentimes people go on and on and on about maybe the history of something
41:51or repeat themselves numerous times in their statement.
41:55And it just doesn't serve anybody any better.
41:56And it's not going to give anybody any benefit.
41:58So three minutes will let you get directly to your point.
42:02We get to understand it.
42:03And we can move on to the next speaker.
42:04So I thank the Board for the support.
42:07We will probably be looking to put this up at our next town board meeting.
42:11Good.
42:12Okay. For a vote.
42:12I'm just going to say from personal experience, I waited three,
42:17a little over three hours one time in the old town hall.
42:20I was not on the Board, to speak on behalf of an organization,
42:26which took a lot of time.
42:26And I was on the Board for about a minute and a half.
42:29And I had to wait three hours.
42:31It was painful.
42:32And to your point, a lot of people were coming up repeating the same message.
42:38And I just thought it was painful.
42:41Well, we have seen peoples that have come to meetings that have walked out because they kind
42:45of look at the line and they add up their time.
42:47And they're like, I don't have two hours to sit here and wait.
42:50And so sadly, there are people that have left their meetings
42:52and not had a chance to voice their opinion.
42:54But always know, even if you're limited in time clock,
42:56we read every single email that comes through.
42:59I look at all of them.
43:00And so there's always a way to get your opinion and thought as lengthy
43:03as you want to us directly.
43:05Yeah, I can guarantee.
43:06And not only that, the clerk posts the letters that we receive now,
43:09which was never done before.
43:11So every letter that comes in and is part of the record gets posted publicly.
43:16And then, of course, obviously, we all get them and read them.
43:18We have them every week.
43:20Nothing goes to the agenda.
43:22It didn't go to them first.
43:23So they get them.
43:25Right.
43:25They get them.
43:26And so there is a, it flows pretty good.
43:29And we're much more transparent than any other board has been in my timeframe.
43:34So I think we're doing a good job with it.
43:36And at this point in time, do we have anybody else,
43:40comments from the public, Justin, online?
43:42Nobody? Anybody here in the audience?
43:44Nobody? Oh, come on up.
43:54Hi, hello.
43:55Can you guys hear me clearly?
43:56Yes.
43:57Good. All right.
43:57My name is from Riverhead.
44:00So I also read the same thing where there's going to be like a shortage
44:03or cutting back on the time allotted and less availability for like Zoom live.
44:09And I agree with cutting the time.
44:11That's fine.
44:12Three minutes is fine.
44:13That makes sense.
44:13Can you speak up?
44:14I'm sorry.
44:14Three minutes makes sense as a cutoff time for speakers to speak.
44:18Makes absolute sense.
44:19But when it comes to providing online access to be here live, I think it's important.
44:24To kind of keep that same track because there's a difference when you're present in a meeting,
44:35actually, you know, coming up and saying something or being on the TV screens.
44:40That's more impactful than a written comment.
44:43And so I think doing away with live Zoom meetings is probably not the best in terms of hearing the public.
44:50But I understand everybody wants to go home too.
44:53So I don't know.
44:54Just make commentary on it.
44:56Have a good one.
44:57All right.
44:57We're not doing away with live Zoom.
44:59We will have Zoom.
45:01We're just not going to allow comments on resolutions on Zoom.
45:05We will allow comments on public hearings on Zoom.
45:09So all we're doing is removing the comment section from Zoom.
45:13And then you can either come here in person or you can write your letter and both have packed the same amount of power.
45:20Reception-wise, I see what you're saying.
45:22So it's not an issue to have two people in the back?
45:24I'm moderating things?
45:27Like moderating the live Zoom live?
45:31Normally we have two people in the back booth when we're doing all of that.
45:35We can alleviate one of those people nine times out of ten by just having one person back here and not having to monitor Zoom and all the speakers that line up on Zoom as opposed to somebody coming here or providing a written comment.
45:51Okay.
45:51So Zoom lives are still a go.
45:53It's just that comment.
45:54So I'm wondering if there's any commentary from the Zoom lives or not going to be available anymore is what you're saying.
46:01You're going to have to speak up a tad higher.
46:03Commentary from live Zoom folk who are coming in and tuning in live from Zoom.
46:10The commentaries are kind of, they're not.
46:13They will be able to comment on public hearings.
46:16Okay.
46:16But they won't be able to comment on resolutions.
46:20Gotcha.
46:20All right.
46:21Understood.
46:22Thank you.
46:22You're welcome.
46:23Thank you.
46:23Zoom does call.
46:24Zoom does cost the taxpayers money.
46:26Just so that everybody is aware of that.
46:28And this was something that was brought forward during the COVID pandemic.
46:33And we're not under that pretence anymore.
46:37So if we're able to, you know, slice away at spending a little bit.
46:43That's always a positive.
46:45So this is a very positive thing for the taxpayers as well.
46:48Okay.
46:52Anybody else?
46:52Okay.
46:53Thank you.
46:54Right. I would like to have somebody make a motion to close the town board meeting.
46:59So moved.
47:00Second.
47:01All in favor?
47:02Aye.
47:03All opposed?
47:04We wish everybody a happy, healthy weekend.
47:08I don't have any announcements to make.
47:11I think, and I can't think of anything offhand that's coming up this weekend.
47:15I know on February 21st, keep in mind that the Riverhead Anti-Bias Task Force has an event at the Suffolk Theater.
47:25Tickets are free, but they are almost all gone already.
47:29And I believe on February 13th, Riverhead High School Auditorium at 6 p.m.,
47:36there is also a Black History presentation involving, I believe, the Anti-Bias Task Force also.
47:43Yes, that's correct.
47:44Denise, if you have any.
47:45Further information on that?
47:47Yes.
47:47We'll announce it next week, too.
47:49Yes, that's at 6 p.m., and there is an honoree, and I'm very happy to attend on that.
47:53And also, there's the Valentine's Day dance at the Senior Center on Valentine's Day, starting at noon.
48:00Yes, there is.
48:00And then there's a father-daughter dance, too, and I think a mother-son dance also.
48:05Okay, that's it for the weekend.
48:06Have a great weekend.
48:07Stay healthy, and we'll see you next week.
48:09Thank you all.
48:15Thank you.

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Thank you. [transcription gap] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you, Denise.

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Councilman Rothwald. Yes. We have a member of the clergy here today. We do. We are honored to have here today Reverend Evans from the Wading River Congregational Church in beautiful downtown Wading River. So, Reverend, if you don't mind stepping up to the microphone, if you could just lead us in invocation this morning. And thank you for attending. Thank you very much. Let's pray. Almighty God, as we convene as a legislated body, we ask for your wisdom and discernment. Guide our decisions today as we seek to serve the people with justice and fairness. Let us always strive for a faithful response of our great Father and work toward the common purpose of a better future. We lift up our voice and pray the words that Jesus taught us. Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. Amen. [transcription gap] Temptation but deliver us from evil for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever Amen, thank you Thank you. Thank you Reverend Reverend. Do I detect a little bit of an accent from somewhere or no? That's what I thought Where'd you grow up?

Very good with it am e Zion churches Well, thank you for coming in doing this today. Thank you Okay Clerk what do we have any announcements and correspondence of correspondence? We received numerous correspondence all in relation to Scott's point all of that was categorized and clocked in and circulated all the board members and those planning and can be Seen on the website. I created a folder specifically for Scott's point to keep all correspondence And so that is segregated from everybody else just so they could see it. I know I got a email today from a Gentleman who sent in something at 429 on Friday and that wants to know why it wasn't part of the record So it is part of the record everybody that sends me something gets circulated immediately It's just whether the deadline that they can make it in this particular agenda for you to read but Anything they came in if the deadline will be in next next meetings agenda so you can read them, but they have been circulated And have been noticed and have been taken into account for made part of the file. So That's it for correspondence Reports the tax receiver collection report for 2425 was received at ninety five million three hundred thousand dollars And that was the only report that came in for this meeting and that concludes the reports and the correspondence Okay. Thank you Right. We have on the agenda today one public hearing Scheduled for two o'clock It is now 208 and the public hearing is regarding a water main extension on Forge Road And I would ask what our superintendent Frank Mancini to please come up to the microphone

Hi good afternoon, I'm Frank Mancini from the Riverhead Water District so for today's public hearing this will be a extension of the district to Service the homes on Forge Road in Calverton. We call it extension 97. This is being done with the grant. We're really proud of this We've been working behind the scenes on this for years These these homes are exposed to PFAS like you've heard in the news and in for a relatively small amount of money We're going to be able to protect hundreds of people because the area includes three mobile home parks That have a couple hundred between them a couple hundred units So the work itself will involve The installation of twenty eight hundred feet of six and eight inch cement line ductal water main In that will include five fire hydrants to service that area The total cost of the work is about one point eight five million That's all the construction work. We have that in the grant. We have some engineering costs that are not Reimbursable that we're going to use CPF funding for and that's basically the gist of it The next step would be once we get this approved approved, we'll start on those, the engineering costs, which are bid specs and contract documents. They're very unique because the grant requires very unusual purchasing requirements with different types of contractors. Once we produce those documents, they'll be submitted by, to the regulators. The health department will approve the scope and that the work is done correctly. And we send the specs and contract documents to the grant people who also approve them to make sure that we're purchasing correctly and meeting the conditions of the grant. It's been a long time coming. This is, and this area is in particularly heavy in PFAS. So we know that. And this will be great. This will be like the cherry on top of the sundae when we get this done as far as our water problems in the town. You're right. And you guys should be commended because you guys paid for the map and plan. That is essentially the tool that we use. We shop for grants with, and nobody was in the newspaper screaming and yelling about this one, but, but you took action as a board to, because it was the right thing to do because they are, their water quality is far worse than other stories that have been in the news. Correct. So we're proud to get this done. And I want to thank CDA and, and the town attorneys and accounting because there's an enormous amount of work behind the scenes to get this money. They don't give it to you. It's a real grind to get it. Yeah. Good job, Frank. Yeah. No, thank you. We really appreciate it. It was a huge team. I'm like a tiny little part of it. My job is to build it when we get with the money. That, that'll do. Yeah, but you're a large part of this. You're a very large part of this. Okay. But we, we signed on for a commitment, you know, four years ago that we were working on this and we put this when we had the water forums and we searched out all these grants. Dawn Thomas and the CDA has been incredible for searching for these grants in and out. We sat through all the meetings and like you say, especially Emory has been working on the legal aspect and components. Yeah. With the entire, you know, Eric Howard and our, but just it's a long time coming. There's a lot of work to get where we are today and I think sometimes people say what's happening, what's happening, what's happening, but just, you know, the application process takes time for the review and waiting for the acceptance. So I think today is a great day to have this public hearing and I look forward to immediately moving on, you know, to, to approve it and let's get these pipes in the ground. Yep. That's sad. Nobody thought we could do it for the other 64 homes and we got it done. Yes. We're still working. This is on that list. So we're still working. We got, we need two more million, $2 million for river road. We're not done yet. This is the start. We still grinding away behind the scenes, accumulating money one piece at a time to help people. But I think we've made progress like never before. Yeah. So, and that's the entire town board has been committed to this. Yep. So it's a great day. It is. Mm-hmm. Anybody from the public have any questions regarding this public hearing or do we have anybody on line? See nobody in the audience. Nobody on line. Frank, thank you. Thank you. What I'll do is we'll keep this open for written comment for 10 days, which will lead us to February 14th, which happens to be the day before an important day. No, it is the day itself. We just get that mixed up. It's the 14th. Okay. So we'll keep it open until Valentine's day for written comment. And at this point in time, we have no more public hearings. So I'm going to go to comments on resolutions. Okay. Do we have anybody in the audience that has any comments on any of our resolutions today? Not seeing anybody. Do we have anybody on? Oh, we have one. Come on up to the microphone. State your name and the resolution you're looking to talk about. Hi. My name is Michelle Camp and I am here to talk about number 27, I believe. Can you pull the microphone down just a little bit? Yeah. It's okay. It's tough to hear you, Michelle. I'm sorry. Regarding item number 27, the ratification of a settlement with Victor Oziere. Mm-hmm. So that would be resolution 160. Yep. I didn't know anything about it except that I read an article in the Riverhead Local that Denise wrote, Denise Tavoletti. And I didn't know anything about it. I didn't know anything about the negotiations or anything, but I was around. I live right next door to Victor Oziere, have for 20 years. And I was there and was largely, I'm sure Mr. Howard may remember that I was a spokesman for our neighborhood, I suppose. And besides the... He had building violations. He had... You're familiar with this place, okay? Yep. He had building code violations. He had sewer problems. He had too many bathrooms. He had tons of things. And he was renting the property out as a short stay event venue, really. It has a lot of amenities. And he would have weddings and his limos and his buses. And Overlook Drive is a one-lane street that's largely unpaved. So it wasn't a welcome business in our neighborhood. But now he's moved. He sold the property. The town is looking to settle with him for what I think is a nominal amount of money compared to the money he made by the city. Okay. And he's made by ignoring the town and his neighbors, the money that he cost the town. There were property taxes. I mean, I could go on. A lot of it is not really relevant, I guess, to this particular settlement. But I think that giving a person who ran such an elaborate establishment and, I mean, obviously, and openly. Everybody could see it. Driving down Meeting House Creek Road or in the creek itself. It was in your face. It was, you know, go ahead and make me. You know? And when he finally did have to because of a lot of things. But there were noise problems and traffic problems. And, you know, he did this every weekend and sometimes for longer stays than that. Weddings, bridal parties, you know, everything. When he finally served and the action finally came, it cost everybody a lot of money, not to mention the pain and suffering of all of his neighbors, even people on the other side. And sometimes especially on the other side of the creek because sound travels out over the water. Like, it really does. I mean, it's just. It was like you're at a concert sometimes if you sat there. So, I just think for the establishment that he was running and the trouble he caused the town, the police had to come several times a week sometimes, sometimes twice in the same night. I think you're letting him off easy. I think it'll be a lesson to all those who would also like to violate the rules of the state. I think it's a lesson to all those who would also like to violate the, what do you call it, the 30-day law or whatever it is, I forget, that, you know, well, you can do it. You just be a little quieter, a little more polite, and invite your neighbors. And, you know, and that's all that it's going to take. I think that it's, I think he's getting away too easy. The resolution basically says that it's, you know, it's too easy. It's, you know, it's too much money and we might not win. But I don't know how, if he violated the building code, if he applied for a permit or he didn't apply for a permit, that should not be debatable really. If he has the proper sewage system, if he's got too many bathrooms, you know, all of those things should not really be debatable. They should be, he either did it or he didn't do it. And so, I don't know why you would be so insecure about that. You would be so insecure about winning. But anyway, that's all I have to say. I don't, I think, I think he's getting off easy and it's not fair to the residents who were. I'd say inconvenienced, but that underestimates it so much. I couldn't sit in my backyard and not be at his party, you know, even if I didn't, you know, of course I didn't want to be. It is, it was ridiculous. And it started during COVID, which made him, it was like a perfect storm for him because, you know, people weren't flying, people weren't traveling, but you could drive over there and it's, you know, it's a kitschy place, you know. I mean, it's like, I can't say that the place itself isn't something that young people would flock to, but that's not what we are zoned for there. So, thank you for listening. Thank you, Mrs. Camp. Do we have anybody else who would like to comment on this? I'll just say a couple things about it. Oh, sure. Okay. So, this property was as, I'm sorry, I forgot, what's your last name? Camp. As Ms. Camp said, this was a problem property. Our code enforcement officials attempted the Justice Court route to shut it down. Ultimately, we worked with PD to have the undercover officer do an actual in-person rental. The problem with transient rental cases is that, you know, you have to have a buy to clearly prove that it's a transient rental violation. The building violations are something separate, and whether he was being taxed appropriately or not, I can't really say right now because I don't know what the assessors had him assessed at. But just setting that aside, what we can't do in these types of cases is base penalties we seek on the property. Okay. So, what we can do is base penalties we seek on projected earnings and that, or assumed earnings that we just can't do it with the way that our code is written. Now, the amount that we arrived at for the settlement was after multiple conferences with the court, both the judge and both with the judge's law clerk. And typically, once you go down that line, you sort of get an idea of how far you're going to be able to go with the penalties. So, we're going to have to do that. And we're going to have to make sure that we're going to be able to get the right amount. So, we're going to have to make sure that we're going to be able to get the right amount. And we're going to have to make sure that we're going to be able to get the right amount. So, arriving at that figure, what, you know, isn't really a reflection of my happiness with the figure. But it's a reflection of my assessment of what I could expect if I kept pushing the case farther. And then just in toward that end, we've had since 2018 multiple transient rental cases that we've taken to Supreme Court. And that's a reflection of what I think is the highest amount settlement that we've gotten. There was a series of ones on Creek Road that we got between 5,000 and 20,000 on. And then there was another one on Tide Court in Wading River. And I believe that one was 15,000. So, when I'm assessing whether it's a reasonable figure, that, you know, those prior settlements play into that. And then the way the conversations with the court are going to be, I think, is going to be a reflection of that. So, I think that's a reflection of what I think is the highest amount settlement that we've gotten. And then the way the conversations with the court are going also play into that. And that's basically why we are where we're at. Counsel, my understanding is that person no longer resides there, correct? And that's in, yeah. And so, the other thing that plays into this is, so, typically when you take one of these cases in, the first thing the judge is going to ask you is, you know, okay, so what do they do to fix it? And you go through that. And he says, okay. So, what have they done to fix it? Well, in this instance, he did apply for building permits. I don't know if he closed those permits before or the next owner closed the permits. But those permits were pending at least at the time that he left town. Additionally, when you're working on these, so, he has a settlement here. And he's moved out of town. So, that, you know, that complicates litigation of the case going forward. And it also, and because the conduct has stopped and been addressed, you know, that lessens the severity of it in the eyes of the court and whoever you're making this case to. So, that's just a little bit of insight as to why the settlement is recommended as it is. [transcription gap] [transcription gap] for highway equipment purchases so move second vote please Waski yes yes yes yes yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 135 authorizes the removal of fixed assets so move seconded vote please Waski yes very few yes turn yes yes yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 136 authorizes employees to attend the International Association of arson investigators IAAI conference 2025 so moved second vote please Waski yes very few yes yes yes yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 137 amends resolution 202 5-9 for so moved seconded vote please Waski yes very few yes yes yes yes covered yes resolution adopted resolution 138 appoints a call in park attendant to the recreation department so moved second vote please Waski yes very few yes turn yes yes covered yes resolution adopted resolution 139 appoints a call in assistant recreation leader to the recreation department so moved seconded vote please Waski yes very few yes turn yes Rothwell yes yes yes resolution 138 adopted resolution 140 appoints a call in park attendant to the recreation department so moved second vote please Waski yes very few yes turn yes Rothwell yes yes resolution adopted resolution 141 ratifies the rehire of call-in employees to the recreation department so moved second vote please Waski yes very few yes turn yes Rothwell yes covered yes resolution is adopted américans 142 appoints a part-time office assistant to the recreation department so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved second vote please wasky yes very field yes turn yes yes yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 143 reappoints member to recreation advisory committee Savio so moved seconded vote please wasky yes Maryfield yes heard yes yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 144 terminates inactive employees from the police department so moved second vote please wasky yes very field yes yes yes yes got to change that terminology 145 accepts the retirement of a construction equipment operator so moved seconded vote please wasky good luck on your retirement jr yes very field yes yes Rothwell yes I wish the jr the best of luck I know he is fully involved with the Riverhead Fire Department doing great work over there so I know we'll see a lot of them around town but I wish you the best of luck in retirement thank you for your service yes and Hubbard yeah Thank You JR for your service current chief of Riverhead Fire Department right yes I know he's very active and busy with the fire department I know he's gonna stay active and busy with them but thank you again like everybody said for your service to the town best of luck to you I vote yes resolution is adopted resolution 146 accepts the retirement of a principal accountant clerk so moved second vote please wasky yes very field yes current yes Rothwell yes a bird another longtime worker for the town a lot of institutional knowledge going to be lost here Kathy Schroer has been in our accounting department for as far back as I can remember we wish her and her husband nothing but the best in their retirement thanks for their service vote yes resolution is accepted resolution 147 authorizes submission of letter of intent and execution of contract by the supervisor for operation and maintenance grant program to New York State Environmental Facilities Corporation so moved seconded vote please wasky yes very field yes turn yes Rothwell yes a bird yes resolution is adopted resolution 148 extends bid non pro tonque for two years and a half and the project is completed in the future I vote yes resolution is adopted resolution 149 !

so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved current yes Rothwell yes yes resolution 150 words bid for census water meters and accessory equipment or reasonable equivalent and repair to meter reading equipment so moved second vote please wasky yes very few yes turn yes Rothwell just not a meeting if we're not giving something to Frank yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 151 resolute resolution calling public hearing regarding a capital improvement for the proposed electrical upgrades at plant number seven Riverhead water district project number 16 so move for second Mancini vote please wasky yes very few yes turn yes Rothwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 152 authorized the town clerk publish and post public notice to consider a local law to amend chapter 229 of the Riverhead Town Code entitled excavation and grading section 9 thereof fees so moved second vote please wasky yes very few yes turn yes Rothwell yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 153 authorizes supervisor to execute polling clear head clear clear head clear clear [transcription gap] clear clear clear clear application for Home Depot plant cells so move second vote please wasky yes Merrifield yes Kern yes Rothwell yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 155 ratifies the resignation of an accountant so moved seconded vote please wasky yes Merrifield yes turn yeah I just want to say Vincent I wish you well yes Rothwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 156 authorizes continued service with municipal CMS LLC for website maintenance so moved second vote please wasky yes Murrayfield yes turn yes yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 157 authorizes continued service with municipal CMS LLC for website maintenance so moved seconded vote please wasky yes Merrifield yes Kern yes Rothwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 158 grants chapter 229 excavation exportation permit for a cauliflower square LLC northwest corner of old country road Mill Road Riverhead New York Suffolk County tax map number 600-101 dash 11 so moved second vote please wasky yes very few yes turn yes Rothwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 159 ratifies acceptance of donation of temporary use of freezer trailer and senior center force I'm excuse me for senior center so moved seconded vote please wasky yes Merrifield yes and thank you yes and thank you so moved second vote please wasky yes Merrifield yes Kern yes and thank you so moved second vote please wasky yes Merrifield yes Kern yes and thank you so moved second vote please wasky yes Merrifield yes Kern yes and thank you very much Henry I'm Amy Kent head head very much Henry I'm Amy Kent head head Roth well yes thank you Kent head yep thank you mr. Hagee much appreciated resolution has been adopted resolution 160 ratifies the settlement of legal action against canal house LLC doing business as Victor Ville by the sea and Victor Ortiz so moved seconded vote please wasky yes Murrayfield yes turn yes Rothwell yes Hubbard yes resolution is adopted resolution 161 authorized supervisor to execute agreement with the interpreter are you interpreting for Justice Court Avalar Gonzalez so moved seconded vote please wasky yes very field yes turn yes Rothwell yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 162 authorized the supervisor to execute agreement with interpreter for Justice Court Rosalia so moved second vote please wasky yes Murrayfield yes turn yes yes yes resolution is adopted resolution 163 authorized the supervisor to execute agreement with interpreter for justice caught Castro to a to a !

[transcription gap] so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved it vote please waski yes murray field yes absolutely kern yes and i want to thank code for really coming down on this quickly and and efficiently so yes for me rothwell yeah this is a drain on our police and fire services so thank you for taking action yes and hubbard absolutely yes resolution is adopted i believe there's one coming off the floor right go ahead yep so i just wanted to mention we had a little glitch in the system uh we had a great work session here a few weeks ago on the establishment of the hispanic development and power and education committee and so we kind of thought the resolution was in but with a little glitch but i want to get them started on their work so i would like to make a motion to bring off the floor resolution 2025-169 establishes the town of riverhead hispanic development empowerment and education committee and appoints members we can provide a copy to the press as well for this motion to take it off the floor yes yeah second second vote please waski yes murrayfield yes kern yes rothwell yes hubbard yes resolution is off the floor okay read it again any public comment at all everybody yeah do we have any public comment on we have one okay go ahead on this

is it on this resolution um no it isn't it isn't on this resolution i wanted to comment in general comments okay we'll come back to you in a minute kathy thank you okay um take this off the floor it's off the floor yep it's acted now who moves so i'll read it resolution 2025-169 establishes the town of riverhead hispanic development empowerment and education committee and appoints members so moved second vote please okay waski yes murrayfield yes kern yes rothwell great group of individuals absolutely yes hubbard yes and thank you ken for uh spearheading this thank you resolution is adopted that concludes our resolutions okay those are all of our resolutions now we're going to go to open comments from the public i will take kathy first and she's up on the screen thank you kathy mcgraw from northville i watched the work session last week on changing the town rules for meetings and curtailing the time for people to speak and i'd just like to make a suggestion to all of you so head over to head over head over head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head Supervisor, you went on and pointed out that reducing comment time to three minutes and eliminating the use of Zoom, except I think you said except for public hearings, would be right in line with all the other towns. But I would say to you, why not be a leader on this issue rather than a follower? Show the other towns and the people of Riverhead that you want to hear from your constituents and for meaningful opportunity to make comments, five minutes is much better than three. I understand that there are times and not even on a regular basis where you might have to scale back owing to large numbers wanting to speak. But I would guess if you looked back over the past year. the number that you would have to scale back. But I would guess if you looked back over the past year, the average number of people The average number of speakers probably is maybe 15, but I don't even think it's on average even 15. The average number of speakers probably is maybe 15, but I don't even think it's on average even 15. And even let's say it's 15 at every town board meeting. Cutting back to three minutes would save you all 30 minutes of time on average. So in the course of a month, you would be saving one hour of time if you let people speak for five minutes instead of three. And I guess the goodwill you generate by retaining the five minute rule would far outweigh the loss of that hour of your time. And similarly on the use of Zoom, I bet on average there are no more than two or four speakers and I'm probably the only one today. But if folks care enough to participate, even when unable to be at your meetings, why would you want to speak for five minutes instead of three? I don't want to deny them the opportunity to speak using this technology that we have today. My whole point here is that you have the opportunity to be a leader, not a follower, when it comes to allowing the public to speak at town boards. And I would urge you to retain your five minute rule and the use of Zoom, as well as having comments on resolutions and public policy. I believe the people of Riverhead will thank you for that. Thank you. [transcription gap] Thank you. Thank you. So, and I thank you today for this opportunity to speak with you through Zoom. Thanks a lot. Thank you, Kathy. I think as we all know, you can come down and comment or you can send written comment and it's always part of the record. So we're not really stopping people who can't come to a meeting from getting their comments being part of the record. But so many times we have instances with issues with Zoom and people not unmuting, people muting when they shouldn't be muted, again, vice versa. And to us, it's easier just to do this. And we don't necessarily have to have two people in the booth back there, pay two employees to be back there. One can handle it much easier when we're just doing it this way. So those were some of the considerations we made. And it's not about following or leading. It's about efficiency. And I think that's really what we stated here by looking at these new rules and regulations that we're considering adopting. And that's pretty much all I have to say on it. Honestly, Mr. Supervisor, when we have been having the five-minute rule, about two months ago, Ms. McGraw herself was on through Zoom and the five-minute warning came through. She continued to speak and you were pleasant enough to let her go on. That lasted for 16 minutes. And there were other people on other occasions that have sat through something like that, not at the hands of Ms. McGraw, but of other people that have come up. They've overstayed their time or people are calling in from Zoom in the comfort of their own home when there's people that are sitting here that have come out in 25-degree weather at nighttime that are unable to come up to the podium because it's taking too long for them. It's now 7.30, 8 o'clock. They should be in bed. They should be in bed at home going through their regular routine. I think that this is a way that we're able to hear from everyone in the community. It's not trying to make anybody not be heard. It's trying to let everyone be heard. And I think that it's very fair. I know that if somebody that isn't here all the time comes up and they go over there three minutes, I know that you'll be generous enough to give them a little bit of extra time to be able to say what they need to say. This is a way to incorporate everybody into our meetings in a timely fashion. And I fully agree. I fully support moving this forward. And she spoke clear and precise of her opinion today in just two minutes. Well, the minute's a spare. I mean, when you think about it, three minutes is quite a long time to get your point across. And oftentimes people go on and on and on about maybe the history of something or repeat themselves numerous times in their statement. And it just doesn't serve anybody any better. And it's not going to give anybody any benefit. So three minutes will let you get directly to your point. We get to understand it. And we can move on to the next speaker. So I thank the Board for the support. We will probably be looking to put this up at our next town board meeting. Good. Okay. For a vote. I'm just going to say from personal experience, I waited three, a little over three hours one time in the old town hall. I was not on the Board, to speak on behalf of an organization, which took a lot of time. And I was on the Board for about a minute and a half. And I had to wait three hours. It was painful. And to your point, a lot of people were coming up repeating the same message. And I just thought it was painful. Well, we have seen peoples that have come to meetings that have walked out because they kind of look at the line and they add up their time. And they're like, I don't have two hours to sit here and wait. And so sadly, there are people that have left their meetings and not had a chance to voice their opinion. But always know, even if you're limited in time clock, we read every single email that comes through. I look at all of them. And so there's always a way to get your opinion and thought as lengthy as you want to us directly. Yeah, I can guarantee. And not only that, the clerk posts the letters that we receive now, which was never done before. So every letter that comes in and is part of the record gets posted publicly. And then, of course, obviously, we all get them and read them. We have them every week. Nothing goes to the agenda. It didn't go to them first. So they get them. Right. They get them. And so there is a, it flows pretty good. And we're much more transparent than any other board has been in my timeframe. So I think we're doing a good job with it. And at this point in time, do we have anybody else, comments from the public, Justin, online? Nobody? Anybody here in the audience? Nobody? Oh, come on up.

Hi, hello. Can you guys hear me clearly? Yes. Good. All right. My name is from Riverhead. So I also read the same thing where there's going to be like a shortage or cutting back on the time allotted and less availability for like Zoom live. And I agree with cutting the time. That's fine. Three minutes is fine. That makes sense. Can you speak up? I'm sorry. Three minutes makes sense as a cutoff time for speakers to speak. Makes absolute sense. But when it comes to providing online access to be here live, I think it's important. To kind of keep that same track because there's a difference when you're present in a meeting, actually, you know, coming up and saying something or being on the TV screens. That's more impactful than a written comment. And so I think doing away with live Zoom meetings is probably not the best in terms of hearing the public. But I understand everybody wants to go home too. So I don't know. Just make commentary on it. Have a good one. All right. We're not doing away with live Zoom. We will have Zoom. We're just not going to allow comments on resolutions on Zoom. We will allow comments on public hearings on Zoom. So all we're doing is removing the comment section from Zoom. And then you can either come here in person or you can write your letter and both have packed the same amount of power. Reception-wise, I see what you're saying. So it's not an issue to have two people in the back? No. I'm moderating things? Like moderating the live Zoom live? Normally we have two people in the back booth when we're doing all of that. We can alleviate one of those people nine times out of ten by just having one person back here and not having to monitor Zoom and all the speakers that line up on Zoom as opposed to somebody coming here or providing a written comment. Okay. So Zoom lives are still a go. It's just that comment. So I'm wondering if there's any commentary from the Zoom lives or not going to be available anymore is what you're saying. You're going to have to speak up a tad higher. Commentary from live Zoom folk who are coming in and tuning in live from Zoom. The commentaries are kind of, they're not. They will be able to comment on public hearings. Okay. But they won't be able to comment on resolutions. Gotcha. All right. Understood. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you. Zoom does call. Zoom does cost the taxpayers money. Just so that everybody is aware of that. And this was something that was brought forward during the COVID pandemic. And we're not under that pretence anymore. So if we're able to, you know, slice away at spending a little bit. That's always a positive. So this is a very positive thing for the taxpayers as well. Okay. Anybody else? Okay. Thank you. Right. I would like to have somebody make a motion to close the town board meeting. So moved. Second. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? We wish everybody a happy, healthy weekend. I don't have any announcements to make. I think, and I can't think of anything offhand that's coming up this weekend. I know on February 21st, keep in mind that the Riverhead Anti-Bias Task Force has an event at the Suffolk Theater. Tickets are free, but they are almost all gone already. And I believe on February 13th, Riverhead High School Auditorium at 6 p.m., there is also a Black History presentation involving, I believe, the Anti-Bias Task Force also. Yes, that's correct. Denise, if you have any. Further information on that? Yes. We'll announce it next week, too. Yes, that's at 6 p.m., and there is an honoree, and I'm very happy to attend on that. And also, there's the Valentine's Day dance at the Senior Center on Valentine's Day, starting at noon. Yes, there is. And then there's a father-daughter dance, too, and I think a mother-son dance also. Okay, that's it for the weekend. Have a great weekend. Stay healthy, and we'll see you next week. Thank you all.

Thank you.