March 4, 2025 — Town Board

Town Board Meeting

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0:00Thank you.
0:30[transcription gap]
1:30Thank you, Grace.
1:36And Councilman Rothwell, do we have somebody with us today to lead us in the invocation?
1:41We do.
1:42We are honored to have Reverend David Cook here from the Calvary Baptist Church here in Riverhead.
1:46Welcome, Reverend.
1:47Thank you for joining us today.
1:49Thank you for having me.
1:50Let's pray.
1:51Heavenly Father, we come before you here this afternoon.
1:54We come before you humbly recognizing that we are in desperate need of you.
1:59We pray, Lord, that you would help us.
1:59We pray, Lord, that you would grant peace into these proceedings, Lord,
2:03that there would be peace that surpasses understanding,
2:06that everyone here would cheerfully and patiently hear what everyone else has to say,
2:12that there would be a sense of just charity for one another's opinions.
2:19Pray, Lord, that we would love one another as we would have others love us, Lord.
2:24We pray that we would consider others more important than ourselves.
2:28We pray, Lord, that you would.
2:29We pray, Lord, that you would.
2:31meeting, Lord, that, again, the things that are accomplished here would be profitable for those
2:37in this community, and that would be in line with your will. We just thank you, Lord, we praise you
2:41for all that you do. We pray this in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Thank you very much, Reverend. Appreciate it.
2:46Thank you, Reverend. Okay, and I'll just make one quick announcement before we get started,
2:52which is, of course, the obvious, that Supervisor Hubbard is not with us today,
2:55and the reason for that is good news. He became a grandfather for the sixth time.
3:02They welcomed a little baby girl into the Hubbard family. Little Molly is doing just fine, so he's
3:07with the family welcoming Molly, and so we congratulate all them and wish them well.
3:13Mom and baby are doing just fine. So with that, I'll turn it over to the board if anybody else
3:16has any announcements they want to make. Now would be the time. I did not have a grandchild today.
3:21Oh, no? Okay. It's hard to compete with that. Well, that's why you're here.
3:25So my announcement is this coming Saturday, March 8th, is our second annual raising of the Irish flag,
3:34which we're doing in anticipation for the East Adnabal Society Jamesport Parade,
3:41which is March 15th. The flag raising is at 1030 in the morning at...
3:48What is the name of that? The George Young Community Center over there. It escaped me. Jamesport Avenue.
3:54So come on down and...
3:55And join us, and we hope to see you at the parade. And wear green.
4:00All right. Anybody else?
4:01No, thanks.
4:02And see our new motorcycle units leading the parade.
4:05Oh, okay.
4:06Which is a great excitement.
4:07Oh, that's exciting. Good.
4:08I have one thing.
4:09Sure.
4:10Tomorrow, March 5th, the Butterfly Effect is having a little gathering at their operation in Aquavog.
4:17I believe it starts at 12. Please check in with them to confirm that.
4:23Should be very interesting.
4:25Good. Okay. So we'll move on with the agenda.
4:30And Mr. Clark, we'll turn it over to you to take us through any correspondence and reports that we may have.
4:35Well, this should be brief as well.
4:36We have one correspondence, which was handed up actually at the last town board meeting,
4:41from Lorraine Wilson from Reeves Park,
4:44with pictures that got circulated to the board in reference to Reeves Park
4:47and the memorials that are placed there.
4:51Under reports, because it's so early on, we don't have any monthly reports.
4:55They'll be at the next meeting.
4:57So there's nothing to report on reports.
5:00And that's it.
5:01Thank you.
5:02Okay. Very good.
5:03So with that, we're going to move on to public hearings, of which we have eight on the docket today,
5:08seven of which are scheduled for 2 o'clock.
5:10So what we're going to do, just because we have two different planners who are going to kind
5:15of take the lead on the different hearings, we're going to go slightly out of order,
5:19then they're listed on the agenda.
5:20Right, Matt?
5:20That's correct.
5:21So we're going to take, Matt's going to walk us through public hearings number one,
5:25three, four, five, six, and seven.
5:29So he's going to introduce those, right?
5:31Did I get that right?
5:32One, three, five, six, and seven.
5:34I'm sorry.
5:34One, three, five, six, and seven.
5:36Yep.
5:36So you'll introduce those for us, and then we'll open it up to comment
5:39on any of those public hearings, and then we'll move on to the others.
5:42Perfect.
5:42I'll keep it very brief because it's very simple.
5:44So if you see in the agenda, these are amendments to the sign code,
5:48to the Pine Barrens Overlay District, the wireless communication code,
5:52the commercial solar energy production system code,
5:55and the B2B code.
5:55So what this does is remove the old zoning use districts that no longer exist.
6:01So that's industrial A, industrial B, and industrial C. And in search
6:05of the new zoning use districts, Calverton Industrial
6:08and Light Industrial, which Light Industrial already existed,
6:10but it was remapped a little bit.
6:12This is just leftover housekeeping from the comp plan.
6:16That's it.
6:17Come on, that's it?
6:17That's it.
6:18Okay. All right.
6:21So with that, does anybody in the audience have any comment?
6:24On any of the public hearings Matt just spoke about?
6:28Anybody online?
6:31No takers today.
6:32Okay. All right.
6:34So having said that, what we'll do is we will keep it open for written comment.
6:37It's going to be the same timeframe for all the public hearings today,
6:41but specifically for those that Matt spoke about until March 14th,
6:44430, close of business on that day.
6:46So now we'll move on to Greg's public hearings, and he's going to take us
6:51through and introduce public hearing number two,
6:53and public hearing number four.
6:55Thank you.
6:56For the record, Greg Bergman, senior planner
6:58with the Riverhead Planning Department.
6:59So the first public hearing is an amendment to Article LVI site plan review
7:05of Chapter 301 of the Riverhead Town Code.
7:08Right now our preliminary site plan approval is valid for 12 months.
7:12There's the possibility of one six-month extension being granted
7:16by the reviewing board, whether it's the planning board or the town board.
7:19We frankly got a couple of applications that have a lot of outside agents,
7:22and we're going to have to make sure that we're getting them.
7:23But there's a lot of outside agencies that they're sort of trying to get their ducks in a row.
7:27So I'm proposing a code amendment to allow an additional six-month extension,
7:32which would essentially bring that preliminary approval valid for two years.
7:37No more than two six-month extensions could be granted.
7:40Frankly, if something, if an applicant hasn't gotten there, you know, pieces in a row,
7:45if they haven't gotten there preliminary and satisfied the conditions,
7:48two years frankly would be a time period where we may want to sort of take another look at it.
7:52You know, there may have been new development there.
7:53developments in the surrounding area that need to be taken into account.
7:56So this is just a code amendment to allow one additional six-month extension,
8:01and it also adds a $250 fee per those requests.
8:05Previously, we were not charging any fees for those extensions.
8:09Okay.
8:10Thank you for that.
8:12Anybody in the audience to comment?
8:16Anybody online?
8:17No.
8:19Okay.
8:21Oh, you do have one.
8:23Okay.
8:25Let's take that person online.
8:45Good afternoon.
8:46Can you hear us?
8:47Yes, I can hear you now.
8:49Hello?
8:50Hi there.
8:51Go ahead, Marty.
8:52We can hear you.
8:53Yeah.
8:54Hi.
8:54Martin Senemulski, 215 Roanoke Avenue, Riverhead.
8:58With regard to the extension, I mean, it's good to add another extension for six months,
9:04but the problem that we run into in preparation of site plans for approvals and special permits
9:11and final site plan approvals, especially special permits and preliminary site plans,
9:19the process takes a while.
9:20Like Greg said, there's a lot of ducks in a row.
9:23So, as an example, we have a project that, now, granted, eight months of the delay was on my client's part because he had to get a SWIP done.
9:35And he had an engineer that wasn't producing, so he had to switch to another engineer.
9:41But we had an eight-month delay on my client's part, but still, the SWIP took 28 months.
9:49Whoa.
9:49So, if you get rid of the eight-month delay on our part, it was a two-year project.
9:53So, it's a two-year process.
9:55They're in the preliminary site plan phase.
9:59So, my question is, and also, when it comes to preliminary site plans, we've had a couple of them expire,
10:06even though we've never received a notice from the town as required by the code that it's going to expire.
10:13So, you know, inadvertently, a couple have expired because of, you know, it's been a year or whatever.
10:18My question is, what's the legislative intent here?
10:22In other words, what's the legislative intent?
10:23Why do special permits and preliminary site plans and even final site plans, why would they expire?
10:33If there's no change in the zoning, there's no change in the underlying parameters of the project,
10:40why does somebody invest in a project, go through all that process,
10:45and sometimes the process can take years just to have it expire within a certain period of time if they want to sit on it,
10:53sit on it, and then go back to it?
10:53Yeah.
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10:54Yeah.
11:11Yeah.
11:11I would say that things certainly evolve over time.
11:14In a period of two years, there may be local alerts changing.
11:19When we're looking at overall site plans and we're looking at, I'll take the emergency side of things,
11:23fire trucks, dimensions, sizes, particular apparatuses, advance over the years, they change.
11:28So we look at new radiuses, specifications for site plans.
11:33So, you know, a new fire truck takes over now at this point two years to order one and to have one installed.
11:39So when they arrive on scene, you know, they're that far behind in the factory making of things.
11:44So I don't think there's an issue with after a two-year time frame to go back to a site plan and take a look at it
11:50and see how we have evolved in a town to emergency access, site plan, just things, you know, that grow.
11:58We've talked about a couple of different building legislations, just as you led in with pervious pavers,
12:04non-pervious pavers, just in terms of whether we're going to just amend site plans to allow different things.
12:09And, you know, that's a big part of it.
12:10And we're looking at more decorative and landscape work to be done on different site plans.
12:17And so things evolve, and we want to make sure that we stay conformed to that.
12:20So two years, I think, is a pretty long time.
12:23Well, and so for the board's knowledge, two years is just for the preliminary.
12:27Once an applicant, you know, finishes their SWIP, gets all the other necessary outside approvals,
12:32they're granted a final site plan approval by the board, which is valid for three years with the possibility of a 12-month extension.
12:38So when you look at the...
12:39I mean, the totality of what we're considering, it would be two years for a preliminary and then four years for a final.
12:46So, I mean, if something is going to be built in six years, I mean, I think that's perfectly reasonable.
12:52Again, a lot can change in six years where you may need to reassess that.
12:57And, Mr. Berman, correct me if I'm wrong, but this is also move on from a developer,
13:02not tie up the property if they can't get the preliminary done within two years.
13:06Isn't that part of this legislation as well?
13:09Not necessarily.
13:10We would like to see projects brought to completion.
13:13Again, the 28-month SWIP review, I can't speak to any specific...
13:16I have no knowledge of that, but I would certainly say that's likely the outlier.
13:21Again, you know, I've seen SWIPs that are approved much, much quicker than 28 months.
13:27There is a little bit of review back and forth.
13:30But a SWIP is only going to be as good as the, you know, preparer of that SWIP.
13:35You know, there's regulations by the DEC and the SWIP guidelines.
13:39You know, if something's prepared and they adequately address a lot of those points,
13:42there's no reason why that should take 28 months.
13:44But I can't speak to that specific application with any knowledge.
13:48But, again, I think six years for something that would be built is very reasonable.
13:55I guess the question I have is when you use the term that right now it expires,
14:02it would almost be better if, yeah, if a project is delayed and then it starts up again
14:08and there's a fee to check.
14:09I mean, you know, it's not like you're going to have to go back and forth between the site
14:12again to make sure it meets the current codes if there were things that changed either in
14:15the zoning or in certain requirements that affect the site.
14:18But the expiration means you go back to square one.
14:22It means you have nothing.
14:24So if you do a site plan and for whatever reason, it could be somebody passes away and
14:30the approval is now in an estate that takes time to settle or whatever the reason might be.
14:36Okay.
14:37If it expires.
14:39They lose everything.
14:40They lose all of the investment and all of the effort.
14:43Why?
14:46I mean, I understand the reviewing it again and paying a fee to reinstitute the project
14:52to reinitiate it, to get it started again.
14:56I agree with that.
14:57But why would any of these approvals expire where you have to go back to square one?
15:03That's really, I think, where an issue that has to be addressed.
15:07And is it your intent?
15:09To say, look, after a certain period of time, no matter what the circumstance, tough on
15:13them, go back to square one and start over.
15:16So, Greg, if somebody completed their SWIFT plan and their application expired, does that
15:22mean it's not usable or you simply file it with the current data?
15:26You would just refile the application.
15:28So I wouldn't say all is lost, Marty.
15:30It's just a matter of refiling, resubmitting with updated codes.
15:35Yeah, but then it's going to go through the process again.
15:37It's going to go through the same process.
15:39It's going to go site plan review, ARB, historic.
15:44It's going to go through every, it's basically a do-over.
15:47Unless I'm wrong.
15:48It may be great to clarify that.
15:50I mean, to put it down bluntly, yes.
15:53I mean, again, six years.
15:56Six years, I believe, is a very reasonable time to complete a project.
15:59I mean, again, if, by this logic, if we just continue it, would we want something that
16:05was approved maybe 20 years ago that never got built?
16:07That just, oh, well, they had an approval 20.
16:0920 years ago, so here's a building permit.
16:11You know, I...
16:13So I imagine there is a time frame, Marty, when CEQA does expire.
16:17And so with that being said, that CEQA, after a certain period of time, would have to be
16:21updated and have to be re-reviewed.
16:23And you couldn't carry it for beyond that time frame, correct?
16:27Okay.
16:28I mean, a secret determination wouldn't necessarily expire.
16:34But again, there's many different factors.
16:36And I think, I mean, we're talking about granting an extension.
16:39You know, allowing for additional extensions right now.
16:42The code has, you know, an 18-month limitation on a preliminary approval.
16:46We're trying to be more sort of receptive to the development community,
16:50not have certain applications expire.
16:53I mean, again, if the board wants to consider this for a future action, we can discuss that.
16:59But I mean, I think what we're here is commenting
17:01on allowing an additional six-month extension on a preliminary approval.
17:05Yep.
17:06If there are, in fact, surrounding projects that, you know, we're talking about, you know,
17:09we're talking about one site plan and then something to the left or to the right of it is developed
17:12over that period of time, then you probably will be looking at a new site plan
17:17to see how the adjacent parcels currently affect the new project.
17:20All right.
17:20We may look for additional cross-access.
17:22You know, it's very difficult to speculate how a neighboring property would be developed.
17:26But yes, in that case, we might look for additional cross-access locations
17:30that would help facilitate, you know, traffic flow, pedestrian flow, that sort of thing.
17:35Just because one development may be stalled, it doesn't mean that the surrounding areas are not.
17:39And they're moving forward and they have an overall impact.
17:41Correct.
17:42I guess then the only comment I would have is if you had two extensions, which is good,
17:47could you make them two one-year extensions instead of two six-month extensions?
17:52Because in terms of development, even in preliminary site plan, to be honest with you,
17:58three months, I mean, three years at times seems like a flash in the pan based
18:02on going through the process.
18:04So you may want to consider extending the periods a little bit longer.
18:07That's all.
18:08That's all I have.
18:09Thank you.
18:10Okay.
18:10Thank you, Marty.
18:11Yeah.
18:12You know, what concerns me is that the no expiration notification.
18:17So when it expires, we send out notifications?
18:23Let me see.
18:25So I just want to make sure.
18:28So there's a provision when an application expires.
18:31If we don't hear anything from an applicant.
18:39So there is no, I believe what Mr. Senlewski was referring to is if an application is inactive,
18:47whereas we haven't heard anything from an applicant in a certain period of time.
18:50The expiration of a preliminary approval or a final approval does not require notification
18:57to the applicant.
18:58It's in the resolution.
18:59It says the resolution is valid for 12 months with the possibility of a six-month extension
19:03or 36 months, whatever stage we're in.
19:05I appreciate that, Greg.
19:07And I will add that a lot of departments are not able to get a six-month extension.
19:08So I think that's a good point.
19:09I think that a lot of developers, and I think you know this, just given the cost of the
19:12interest rates, they've been really slow to hit the ground.
19:16And I know they're sitting on the sidelines kind of waiting for things to change and come
19:23out and, you know, start up again.
19:25But okay.
19:26Thanks.
19:27Okay.
19:28Anybody else in the room to comment on this public hearing?
19:32Nobody else online?
19:35So I think we'll move on.
19:36But again, we'll leave that public hearing.
19:38We'll leave that public hearing open for written comment until March 14th.
19:41Close of business 430 at the end of the day.
19:44Thank you.
19:45All right.
19:46Next public hearing is another amendment to Riverhead Town Code Chapter 301, Article XLVIII,
19:54entitled Signs.
19:55Essentially what this does is adds a section called Miscellaneous Provisions, which would
20:00allow signs erected by governmental authorities and or related political subdivisions, such
20:05as Riverhead Fire District.
20:07Riverhead Volunteer Ambulance Corps, Riverhead Public Library, to establish signs on their
20:15properties that with review of the planning department and a resolution of the town board
20:20could exempt them from the specific zoning districts.
20:24I have been approached by the Riverhead Fire District.
20:27They inquired about putting a, you know, an LED informational sign out in front of their
20:31property.
20:32I did a little bit of looking into the sign code.
20:34It's located in the business PB zoning district.
20:35I have been approached by the Riverhead Fire District.
20:36They inquired about putting a LED informational sign out in front of their property.
20:37It's located in the business PB zoning district.
20:38It does not permit that type of sign.
20:41Again, so it would allow them to make an application to the building department for a sign permit.
20:46Planning department would review it and transmit a recommendation to the town board, at which
20:50point the town board could waive specific elements of the sign code to facilitate those
20:55signs.
20:56Good.
20:57Okay.
20:58Anybody in the public, from the public want to comment on this?
21:03Anybody online?
21:04Seeing no comments.
21:05Okay.
21:06Anybody?
21:07Once again, we'll leave it open for written comment until March 14th.
21:11Thank you, Greg.
21:12Thank you.
21:13So that brings us to our eighth public hearing, scheduled for 2-10.
21:19And that will be introduced by our town attorney, Eric Howard.
21:23All right.
21:24Thank you.
21:25Under Chapter 229 of the town code, where there is excavation proposed or required pursuant
21:33to a site plan or some kind of site plan.
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21:46increase to the fee being charged.
21:48Currently it's $2. We're proposing
21:50to raise it to $3.
21:54Okay. And that's
21:56per cubic yard.
22:00Okay.
22:00Thank you, Eric. Anybody in the audience
22:02want to comment on this resolution?
22:06Nobody online?
22:09Okay.
22:10So we'll once again leave it open for written
22:12comment until 4.30 on March 14th.
22:14That concludes the public hearing portion
22:16of the meeting. We'll move on to resolutions.
22:19I'll commend the Deputy Supervisor
22:20for running eight public hearings
22:22within 22 minutes approximately.
22:24It's a gift.
22:27So we'll move on to resolutions.
22:29Anybody in the audience want to comment
22:30on any of the resolutions before the town
22:32board today?
22:34Come on up.
22:38Hello. Cindy Clifford, Riverhead.
22:41I'm here to address the resolution
22:43to implement new rules for meetings.
22:44I understand it sprang from a few recent
22:47incidents where the meeting or a particular
22:49speaker got out of control.
22:51But for the most part, I think you could agree
22:53residents come into this room and up
22:55to this podium, often with emotion
22:57but as a rule, all behaving
22:59like adults.
23:01With the exception perhaps of that
23:03particular meeting where the room filled with
23:05a rambunctious crowd, the majority
23:07of whom were not residents of Riverhead,
23:09whose comments ignored the instructed
23:11parameters and whose behavior to anyone
23:13voicing opposition to the resolution was not
23:14to their intent, was met with insults and a
23:17threatening hostility that I can attest to firsthand.
23:21Because of that, I wonder why this resolution
23:23doesn't also include limiting comments strictly
23:26to Riverhead residents.
23:27I'd suggest you strongly consider that for the future.
23:30But for right now, I'm here to object that while
23:32you did reverse the banning of Zoom, and thank you
23:35for that, you did retain banning signs in the boardroom.
23:39Not everyone is comfortable speaking publicly.
23:41As a matter of fact, you may already know this, fear of
23:44speaking publicly is a legitimate thing with 40%
23:48of the population suffering from it.
23:50So many that it has a name, glossophobia.
23:54For those people, four out of 10 who have a strong opinion
23:58but could never get up here to tell you themselves,
24:00holding up a sign is how they'll know that you see
24:03where they stand and what they want or don't want.
24:06That's something sending a letter won't accomplish.
24:09Prohibiting residents from holding up a sign robs them
24:12of being able to contribute their opinion.
24:15To give input into any of the issues discussed or decisions
24:17about to be made, thereby limiting their participation
24:21in our local government.
24:23It's worth noting that only the really big issues bring out
24:26that level of opposition.
24:27EPCAL, warehouses, a heart of River head's civic survey
24:32showed an overwhelming support for the right to use signs
24:35in town board meetings.
24:37The note was that out of concern for them not blocking views,
24:40you could simply require that signs be limited to the back
24:43of the room.
24:44back of the room. That's not a hard request to be followed. But to ban signs completely,
24:49to prohibit residents from being able to express their views and know that they are seen,
24:54that should be every resident's right. I also briefly want to address today's vote to absolve
24:59Island Water Park of its illegal activities and to question how it is that the board will count
25:04on the management to follow through with the enforceable conditions they're reportedly agreeing
25:10to. And what will you do the next time, given their record for skating the rules now and asking
25:15for forgiveness later? Yours is not the responsibility to secure financial stability
25:21for a business, but to secure safety and protocols and compliance within the town. Thank you.
25:28Thank you, Cindy. Anybody else in the room to comment on resolutions? Mr. McAuliffe.
25:40John McAuliffe from Rolling Woods, Roanoke Landing.
25:51Two points on the resolution concerning board procedure, which are very similar to Cindy's,
26:00but phrased a little differently and with a different context. For better or for worse,
26:08Riverhead is a one-party.
26:10Town. Obviously, every member of the board is of one party, and that's fine. That's who people
26:17voted for. But I think that puts especially important the question of how interaction
26:26happens with people who are not members of that party, whether they're independent or Democrats,
26:33and the general public. And I think that that should be the parameter,
26:40or the frame that you should use in thinking about your procedures.
26:45I think the issue of signs is described in the resolution as having to do with
26:52visibility or disruption. I think it has to do with the politics, the visual politics of what's
27:00going on. There's nothing that when you're trying to push something through, and oftentimes you've
27:06generated this opposition that's shown up in signs.
27:10When you're trying to push something through, the last thing you want to have is an article in the
27:15News Review or River head local, which has, as the graphic of that article, a bunch of people from
27:27River head with signs up because that's the most interesting new visual of a particular board
27:33meeting. So I think what you're doing is trying to limit the impact of what's going on in river head's
27:39the impact of opposition to the positions that the board is inclined to
27:45take by removing signs what Cindy said is to having them in the back of the
27:50room the back two or three rows I think is perfectly reasonable if that were
27:55the issue but I frankly don't think it's a question of blocking people's views
28:00people usually have small signs they lift them up they put them down it's not
28:04not a impossible for people sitting in back of them to see or certainly hear
28:10what's going on so so I would urge you to postpone action on that resolution I
28:17think it also should be postponed because it's the kind of issue that you
28:22would probably get more people here if it were an evening meeting I'd say
28:25postpone it to an evening meeting and and get feedback from people from a
28:31variety of perspectives
28:34! other thing I didn't know that Cindy was going to say this but I think that
28:39the issue of I think people of Riverhead by right should be heard you're our board
28:47this is our town this is our tax money that is often being decided upon I think
28:55the people of Riverhead have a right to be heard I don't think people that live
28:59outside of Riverhead have any right to be heard by the board
29:03the board can on its discretion invite them invite one or two representatives of
29:09a perspective that comes from outside of town but if you think of the last few
29:14years there have been board meetings totally dominated by people who do not
29:19live in Riverhead who are not taxpayers who don't have skin in the
29:23game in terms of the long-term impact on Riverhead of what's being discussed they
29:30have an interest or they wouldn't be here whether it was a
29:33water park or there were group there was a group here trying to convince you
29:40to to join a an effort to question the whole way voting tallies were done and
29:50they had one person from Riverhead that's fine if you have someone from
29:52Riverhead that person should carry the water but to have other people who have
29:58no connection other than their own agenda and interest and their people
30:02from the left from
30:03housing groups also that have been here that have so you've had people from both
30:07the right and the left and economic self-interests who take your time take
30:15the resources of the town to express their interest now they obviously as
30:21you've said before they can write letters they can have a representative
30:26on the agreement of the chair they could have a representative speak on their
30:30behalf but I think it's absurd
30:33to to let people who who aren't part of Riverhead to dominate a meeting
30:38regardless of whether it's an issue of left right center or economic
30:42self-interest thank you okay thank you John anybody else well John I would
30:50disagree with the simple fact there are projects that are close to borderlines
30:53that affect you know people to our left and to our right and that they need to
30:58be heard on the different projects and they have a right to come to speak
31:01that's what free speech is all about
31:03good afternoon Claudette Bianco Bading Hollow in reference to the resolution
31:10with the Island Water Park I just want to express my feelings but I know that
31:14many others feel the same way I am sorely disappointed that you are allowing this
31:19serial violator of town laws and regulations codes to continue to do that and now you're
31:27putting a rubber stamp on what he's done instead of protecting our water supply
31:33I'm sure you drink as well and go protecting the residents interest
31:39actions speak louder than words you have consistently said this man abuses the rules
31:45and regulations and today you're about to vote and give him permission to continue to do so
31:51personally I disagree I think he should be held to account he's done it repeatedly he
31:58doesn't care about the rules and regulations and now you've given him carte blanche to
32:03clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
32:11clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
32:20clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
32:26clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear
32:30deck on Island Water Park but before I do that I wanted to just clarify and I
32:36know I'm out of order councillor Howard on the exportation or the excavation
32:40fees is it exportation and importation that's being it's both because you
32:46mentioned only exportation and excavation but it's also material
32:50coming into the site correct excavation it's a situation permits it's an it's
32:56importation and exportation of material so I just think it's important to say
33:03that if you are bringing material on your right of sight it is yeah it's a
33:09sorry I don't have it pulled up real quick give me one second
33:23okay yes so you're
33:25okay yes so you're
33:26okay yes so you're remembering
33:26remembering
33:26remembering or return or return to so if you need fill on the site you would
33:30also be required okay thank you I just wanted to clarify that thank you
33:35resolution 234 the amendment which is the subject of this resolution is
33:41misclassified as an unlisted action staffs own comments in a report dated
33:46July 29th 2020 on a prior Island water park amendment contains the following
33:51statement quote based upon the prior seeker classification as a title
33:56of the site plan and the proposed changes of use and changes to the site
34:00plan must be treated as a type one action pursuant to seeker this amendment
34:06to then should have been a type one action subject to further environmental
34:11review in a supplemental EIS having raised this issue before I have yet to
34:17hear your response as lead agency to this contradiction in your seeker record
34:22as we all should know by now a conditional negative
34:26declaration cannot be issued for a type one action nevertheless here we are I
34:32acknowledge that there are times that were not necessarily on the same page but
34:37in this case I dare say we are not even reading the same book according to the
34:43seeker handbook a conditional negative declaration should never rely on future
34:48investigation to develop conditions of mitigation the mitigating conditions
34:53must be explicitly defined by the
34:55EIS when the CND is issued but this CND is doing just that relying on future
35:02investigation by an involved agency the DEC based upon that agency's comments
35:09Island water park must submit a request for parcel jurisdiction determination to
35:14determine whether a freshwater wetland permit will be required if disturbance
35:19to the regulated area cannot be avoided Island must Island water park must submit
35:24a permit application
35:25under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under E
35:55include as a condition of support of a CND the requirement that approval of another agency
36:03be obtained?
36:05The answer is no.
36:07Requiring the applicant to obtain the approval of another agency when that approval is already
36:13legally required is not a mitigation measure.
36:18Such is the case for the approval by the Suffolk County Department of Health.
36:22The long environmental assessment form identified potential for moderate to large impacts to
36:28groundwater which must be further reviewed by the permitting agency to determine what,
36:33if any, mitigation measures are needed.
36:36Merely stating the requirement that the applicant obtain a Suffolk County Health Department
36:41permit is insufficient.
36:44Condition number two of your resolution cannot support your CND.
36:49This resolution should be tabled until the appropriate application
36:52is submitted to the Health Department and the DEC to determine whether there are mitigation
36:58measures which must be identified and required by these agencies.
37:02Thank you very much.
37:03Thank you.
37:04Thank you, Barbara.
37:05Anybody else in the room to comment on resolutions before the board today?
37:16So now we'll go online.
37:17It looks like we have two people online.
37:21Okay.
37:22We'll head over to Barbara's phone line so she can clear up her head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear
37:35clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear
37:39clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear
37:44clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear
37:45I can hear you. Can you hear me?
37:48Yes, we can hear you. Go ahead, sir.
37:50Thanks. First time, big fan.
37:54Thanks a lot for having the town hall meeting.
37:57My is going to be...
37:59Excuse me, sir. If you could just state your name and your hamlet for the record and for the town clerk, please.
38:05My name is Kevin Shea. I'm from Bading Hollow, New York.
38:08Thank you.
38:10Thank you.
38:10I'm here under Resolution 230.
38:17It's a two-part. It's brief.
38:20First, I want to make sure I acknowledge that I'm probably not going to add additional information that Cindy and John have said.
38:29Maybe I'm doing it a different format.
38:30But there are two parts.
38:32The one where I'm going to argue for allowing for signs, posters, and flyers in the town hall meeting.
38:38And the second one is to possibly give...
38:40Suggestions which I can send this as an email as a substantial comment to wherever email you'd ask me to do it.
38:48So I'll begin.
38:49The first argument would be we want to make sure we have free speech and democratic.
38:53I heard one of the council members mention that just now.
38:56The First Amendment protects the right to free expression, including the use of signs, posters, and flyers in public forum like town hall meetings.
39:04Town halls are essential venue-specific engagement.
39:08And visual materials allow residents to...
39:10Clearly communicate their messages, especially when verbal participation may be limited in time.
39:17The second one would be enhancing public discourse.
39:20Signs and flyers help summarize the complex issues that may be coming from attendees.
39:27Providing key talking points that facilitate more informed discussion.
39:31They allow residents to express viewpoints visually, which can be especially valuable for those who may not feel comfortable speaking publicly.
39:40The third argument would be that it obviously is more inclusive for this participation.
39:47Some participants may have disabilities, language barriers that make verbal participation difficult.
39:53Signs and flyers provide an alternate means of expression.
39:57Community members who arrive late or leave early can still absorb some of the key messages by reading the posters or picking up flyers.
40:05So those are my three arguments.
40:07And...
40:09Decline.
40:09And...
40:10Sublet.
40:11Sublet.
40:11looking to add on or at least for you guys to consider so therefore you do not have those distractions or obstructions
40:19That you're concerned about I have basically five of them
40:23I'll go briefly one is size and placement restrictions you can have the signs
40:28It could be handheld or placed in designated areas to prevent obstruction of sight lines
40:33You can have two large banners that should be
40:35Positioned on walls or stands at the back of the room rather than blocking the seat areas
40:40It could be non-disruptive if signs they must be silent no electronic and noise making signs
40:46There should be no waiting throwing or using signs in a way that disrupts the meeting
40:52contact
40:53Okay
40:54Number three content neutrality the rules must apply equally to all viewpoints to avoid selective enforcement
41:00It should be prohibited to content that should be limited to threats
41:04Obscenity or incitement to violence for would be flyer distribution guidelines flyer should be placed on a designated table
41:12For voluntary pickup rather than being handed out during the meeting
41:16No, low littering participants must dispose of the uncollected flyers and five time for visual displays
41:24So a brief
41:25Designated time before after the meeting would allow participants to display large posters or banners for visibility without disrupting the procedures
41:33procedures
41:34Proceedings by adopting these for policies the Town Council can respect the free expression while ensuring that the meetings remain accessible
41:42orderly and fair for all participants
41:45Thank you. That's all I need to say except maybe I can get an email where I can send it to
41:51Send it to me. Yep. Go ahead Jim. Yeah, it would be a town website
41:56Riverhead down Riverhead NY gov attention town clerk. So be town clerk at the Riverhead
42:03Down a riverhead NY gov. I thank you very much. I'll yield my time
42:06I thank you very much. I'll yield my time
42:12Okay, thank you sir chip we have one more person online just quickly a point of clarification
42:18Prohibiting signs in town board meetings was ruled
42:21constitutional by the Federal Second Circuit Court of Appeals in City of Kingston in Tyler v City of Kingston and that's a
42:292023 case
42:31the board has the ability to
42:33implement
42:35rules
42:36At their meetings provided those rules are reasonable and content neutral
42:40Thank you. Okay. Thank you for the clarification and we have one more online, right?
42:49No, they changed their mind, okay
42:52All right, so nobody else online doesn't look like we have anybody else in the room looking to comment on resolutions
42:57So with that, mr. Clerk if you could call the resolutions, please sure. We'll start resolution number one, which is resolution 210
43:03So with that, mr. Clerk if you could call the resolutions, please sure. We'll start resolution number one, which is resolution 210
43:05budget adoption for the removal of all litter garbage refuse rubbish upon the premises known as 12 Longview Drive in Riverhead Suffolk County New York Suffolk County tax map numbers
43:10budget adoption for the removal of all litter garbage refuse rubbish upon the premises known as 12 Longview Drive in Riverhead Suffolk County New York Suffolk County tax map numbers
43:14600 point dash zero zero one four point zero zero dash two point zero zero through
43:20zero twelve point zero zero zero so moved
43:24second though, please
43:27Waski yes, very field. Yes. Yes Rockwell. Yes Higgins
43:33I don't vote you don't vote
43:36Voting authorities almost unanimous. Okay
43:39Resolution was adopted resolution to 11
43:43Epco emergency access road capital project five two three one one budget adoption so moved seconded
43:51No, please
43:52Waski yes, very field. Yes, Kern. Yes, Rockwell. Yes
43:57Resolution is adopted resolution to 12 water district capital project a two zero five zero
44:03américans
44:04so moved so moved
44:07Seconded no, please. Waski. Yes, very field. Yes, she's head head head
44:12Resolution 213.
44:14Accepts donation of roses for the Senior Center.
44:17So moved.
44:18Seconded.
44:19Vote, please.
44:20Waske.
44:21Yes, thank you to the Gabelsons.
44:23Merrifield.
44:24Yes, they were beautiful.
44:25Thank you very much.
44:26Kern.
44:28Yes, thank you to the Gabelson family.
44:31And Rothwell.
44:31Yes, thank you.
44:33You're welcome.
44:34Resolution is adopted.
44:35Resolution 214.
44:37Accepts donation from Tuttle-Megano Funeral Home for the Senior Center.
44:40So moved.
44:40Second.
44:42I'm sorry.
44:43Vote, please.
44:44Waske.
44:44Yes.
44:45Merrifield.
44:46Yes, and again, thank you very much.
44:47It was a huge tree of lotto tickets.
44:52Kern.
44:53Yes, and thank you very much.
44:55Rothwell.
44:55Yes.
44:56Resolution is adopted.
44:58Resolution 215.
45:00Authorizes Seward District employee to attend seminar.
45:03So moved.
45:05Seconded.
45:06Vote, please.
45:07Waske.
45:07Yes.
45:08Merrifield.
45:08Yes.
45:09Kern.
45:09Yes.
45:10Rothwell.
45:10Yes.
45:11Resolution is adopted.
45:12Resolution 216.
45:14Reappoints members and appoints new member to the Small Business Advisory Committee.
45:18So moved.
45:19Seconded.
45:20Vote, please.
45:21Waske.
45:22Yes.
45:22Merrifield.
45:23Yes.
45:23Kern.
45:24Yes.
45:24Rothwell.
45:25Yes.
45:25Excellent group of people.
45:26Yes.
45:27Resolution is adopted.
45:28Resolution 217.
45:32Appoints Ken Zelnicki as a member to the Riverhead Farmland Preservation Committee.
45:36So moved.
45:37Seconded.
45:39Vote, please.
45:39Waske.
45:40Yes.
45:41Merrifield.
45:41Yes.
45:42Kern.
45:43Yes.
45:43Rothwell.
45:44Is a vast knowledge.
45:45Yes.
45:46Resolution is adopted.
45:47Resolution 218.
45:49Appoints a wastewater treatment plant operator trainee.
45:52So moved.
45:53Seconded.
45:54Vote, please.
45:55Waske.
45:56Yes.
45:56Merrifield.
45:57Yes.
45:57Kern.
45:57Yes.
45:58Rothwell.
45:58Yes.
45:59Resolution is adopted.
46:00Resolution 219.
46:02Appoints an automotive mechanic to.
46:05So moved.
46:05Seconded.
46:06Vote, please.
46:07Waske.
46:07Yes.
46:08Merrifield.
46:09Yes.
46:09Kern.
46:09Yes.
46:10Rothwell.
46:11Yes.
46:11Resolution is adopted.
46:12Resolution 220.
46:14Ratifies the transfer of an employee into a provisional appointment of the Community Development Program Analyst.
46:20So moved.
46:21Seconded.
46:22Vote, please.
46:23Waske.
46:23Yes.
46:24Merrifield.
46:24Yes.
46:25Kern.
46:27That's a no for me at this time.
46:31Rothwell.
46:32Yes.
46:34Resolution is adopted.
46:35Yes.
46:36soit.
47:05yes Rothwell yes resolutions adopted resolution 223 ratifies the promotion of
47:16an employee to assistant recreation superintendent one so moved seconded
47:22please wasky yes Mary field yes turn yes
47:26Rothwell yes resolution is adopted resolution 224 ratifies the promotion of
47:32a public safety dispatcher one to a public safety dispatcher two so moved
47:37seconded vote please wasky yes Mary field yes turn yes
47:43Rothwell yes resolutions adopted resolution 225 approve salary
47:49adjustments for principal garage mechanics so moved seconded vote please
47:54wasky yes Mary field yes turn yes Rothwell yes resolutions adopted
47:59resolution 226 terminates an
48:02an active employee from the police department so moved second please wasky
48:08yes very few yes turn yes well yes resolutions adopted resolution 227
48:15authorizes the supervisor to execute a license agreement with broadcast music
48:20Inc BMI so move seconded please wasky yes very few yes turn yes Rothwell yes
48:27resolutions adopted resolution 228 authorizes the supervisor to execute
48:32lease renewal agreement authorizing the town to lease a vehicle from Suffolk
48:37County Office of the Aging for Transportation Services for elderly
48:41residents non-proton so moved seconded vote please wasky yes very field yes turn
48:47yes Rothwell yes resolution is adopted resolution 229 ratifies authorization to
48:54purchase Calriss to 109 for the water district so moved seconded vote please
49:02yes Mary field yes turn yes Rothwell yes resolution is adopted resolution 230
49:10men's adopted rules and procedures for the town board of the town of Riverhead
49:14so moved second vote please wasky yes Mary field yes turn yes Rothwell yes
49:21resolution is adopted resolution 231 approved special event chapter 255
49:28application for st. John the Baptist Ukrainian Church Church of the Holy
49:27Spirit and the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Holy
49:27Ghost so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved
49:36so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved
49:39so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved
49:42Yes.
49:43Resolution is adopted.
49:44Resolution 232.
49:47Approve special event chapter 255 application for cystic fibrosis foundation.
49:52CF cycle for life.
49:54So moved.
49:55Second.
49:56Vote please.
49:56Waske.
49:57Yes.
49:57Murrayfield.
49:58Yes.
49:59Kern.
49:59Yes.
50:00Rothwell.
50:00Yes.
50:01Resolution is adopted.
50:02Resolution 233.
50:03Awards request for qualifications for engineering services during construction for Class A biosolids
50:12upgrade project for Riverhead Sewer District.
50:15So moved.
50:15Seconded.
50:16Vote please.
50:17Waske.
50:18Yes.
50:19Murrayfield.
50:19Yes.
50:20Kern.
50:20Yes.
50:21Rothwell.
50:21Thank you, Michael Reichel, sitting in the back.
50:23Yes.
50:24Resolution is adopted.
50:26Resolution 234.
50:28Assumes lead agency issues conditional negative declaration for the site plan application
50:33of a site plan application.
50:33Island Water Park, DBA, Scotts Point, 5835 Middle Country Road, Calverton, New York,
50:39Suffolk County, tax map number 600-135-1-7.34.
50:45So moved.
50:45Second.
50:46Vote please.
50:47Waske.
50:48Yes.
50:48Murrayfield.
50:50And I base that very succinctly.
50:54Mrs. Blass made a very good presentation.
50:56I think that pretty much sums it up.
50:58I vote no.
50:59I think an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
51:02Thank you.
51:02Kern.
51:04Yes.
51:04Rothwell.
51:05Yes.
51:06Resolution is adopted.
51:10Resolution 235.
51:12Adopts a local law amending chapter 207 of the Riverhead Town Code entitled Animals.
51:18So moved.
51:19Seconded.
51:20Vote please.
51:21Waske.
51:22Yes.
51:22Murrayfield.
51:23Yes.
51:23Kern.
51:24Yes.
51:24Rothwell.
51:25Yes.
51:25Resolution is adopted.
51:27Resolution 236.
51:29Adopts a local law amending chapter 257 of the Riverhead Town Code entitled Animals.
51:32So moved.
51:33Resolution 237 of the Riverhead Town Code entitled Peddling and Soliciting.
51:35So moved.
51:36Seconded.
51:36Vote please.
51:37Waske.
51:38Yes.
51:38Murrayfield.
51:39Yes.
51:39Kern.
51:40Yes.
51:41Rothwell.
51:41Yes.
51:42Resolution is adopted.
51:43Resolution 237.
51:45Adopts a local law amending chapter 301 of the Riverhead Town Code entitled Zoning and
51:52Land Development 301-229 Yard Sales, Attic Sales, Garage Sales, and Auction Sales.
51:58So moved.
51:59Seconded.
52:00Vote please.
52:00Waske.
52:01Yes.
52:02Kern.
52:03Yes.
52:03Rothwell.
52:04Yes.
52:05Resolution is adopted.
52:06Resolution 238.
52:08Ratifies authorization for the supervisor to execute an agreement with the Riverhead Town Police Benevolent Association.
52:14So moved.
52:15Second.
52:16Vote please.
52:17Waske.
52:18Yes.
52:19Murrayfield.
52:20Yes.
52:21Kern.
52:21Yes.
52:22Rothwell.
52:22Absolutely.
52:23Yes.
52:24Resolution is adopted.
52:25Resolution 239.
52:26Authorizes submission of application for body armor vests where code enforcement is required.
52:32Code enforcement officers.
52:33So moved.
52:34Seconded.
52:35Vote please.
52:36Waske.
52:37Yes.
52:38Murrayfield.
52:39Yes.
52:40Kern.
52:41Yes.
52:42Rothwell.
52:43Yes.
52:44Resolution is adopted.
52:45Resolution 240.
52:46Ratified the rescinding of Town Board Resolution 2022-181 and Town Board Resolution 2022-723.
52:51So moved.
52:52Seconded.
52:53Vote please.
52:54Waske.
52:55Yes.
52:56Murrayfield.
52:57Yes.
52:58Kern.
52:59Yes.
53:00Rothwell.
53:01Yes.
53:02Hubbard.
53:03I'm sorry.
53:04No Hubbard.
53:05No Hubbard.
53:06But we'll pay the bills anyway.
53:07Resolution is adopted.
53:08That concludes the resolution.
53:09Okay.
53:10Thank you, Jim.
53:11So with that, at the conclusion of resolutions here, we'll move on to open comments.
53:14And we'll close with a motion to approve the resolution.
53:16So moved.
53:17Seconded.
53:18Waske.
53:19Yes.
53:20Waske.
53:21Yes.
53:22Rothwell.
53:23Yes.
53:24Hubbard.
53:25Yes.
53:26Rothwell.
53:27Yes.
53:28Hubbard.
53:29Yes.
53:30Rothwell.
53:31Yes.
53:32And we'll of course open it up to the folks in the room first, and then we'll move on
53:35to anybody who is online.
53:37So if anybody in the room wishes to comment, now is the open comment period.
53:42John McAuliffe from Roanoke Landing.
53:57Two comments.
54:00One, I'll just clear this up so you can clear yourself up.
54:01I'll clear this up so you can clear yourself up.
54:02[transcription gap]
54:15board to express their opinions for whatever motivation but does not extend
54:21to the people of Riverhead holding up a sign I will be interested to see if we
54:27get to the point that people do come and hold up signs whether you're going to
54:30have them arrested or at least expelled from the room for holding up a three by
54:35five five ten by five or whatever size sign and you'll have to deal with that
54:41as it happens my main reason now though is to note something from a larger world
54:50three years ago members of the board and people from Riverhead filed outside of
54:58the board meeting to the lawn and joined in expressing their complete
55:05opposition to the brutal Russian invasion of Ukraine
55:10that took place in the early 1990s and I think that's a very important point
55:11to me I think it was not unprovoked but it was unjustified it's been ruled that
55:17way by virtually everyone including the U.S government until very recently
55:23I think that it if you were serious then I think that you should consider in a
55:30work session and bring to the board a resolution that would express your
55:35support for the people of Ukraine and your support for continuing U.S assistance to them
55:41so I'll leave you with that so I'll leave you with that
55:42two days in Washington they have opened up a situation in which 2,000 ton bombs
55:51will be given to or sold to Israel that will be used potentially again in Gaza
55:57and elsewhere in the region there were 30,000 is what the paper said it's hard
56:02to imagine 30,000 2,000 pound bombs but those were approved at the same time the
56:09US has now stopped all military assistance to Ukraine I hope that that's
56:16just a temporary matter of peak and temporary matter of trying to get
56:23leverage I think there does need to be a serious peace negotiation but the US
56:28should be on in that negotiation not as a neutral party but as a party which
56:34believes that Russia has no right to have invaded bombed
56:38destroyed and destroyed the country and the United States has no right to have
56:38destroyed and occupied territory in Ukraine at least I leave aside the
56:44question of Crimea but I think anything after Crimea is something that the world
56:49cannot tolerate and I hope that given the history of this board in expressing
56:54an opinion about the original invasion that you now find a way to write to our
56:59congressperson and write to the president on this matter thank you very
57:03much thank you John anybody else
57:08in the room to comment during the open comment period nobody else in the room
57:16anybody online looks like we have somebody
57:32hi there this is talk we church in with greater Calvert and Civic Association are
57:37you able to hear me
57:38yes we can hear you terrific I'm sorry I can't do the video my I'll lose the
57:47audio if I do so hopefully you can see the insignia for greater coverage and
57:52Civic Association I was hoping to speak during resolutions but if there seemed
57:57to be a little bit of a mix-up but I'm going to I'd like to speak now I won't
58:03have the effect on your votes that you just took but there are two points I'd
58:07like to speak to number one I'd like to thank Barbara blast and Denise
58:14Merrifield for first for the explanation that Barbara last offered for the
58:20distinction between the unlisted action and the type one action of seeker for
58:27the Island Water Park site plan application and I think Denise
58:31Merrifield for her understanding of it and her voting against today's resolution
58:35number two
58:37on the resolution for town board rules you've now made your votes so that has a
58:48consequence right so we're now we now have legislation in the town of
58:53Riverhead where residents are voices are being restricted I mean it's just plain
58:57and simple in this and the opportunity to make more efficient a town board meeting
59:07which I
59:07appreciated so much so I'll head over to you so I'll head over to you so I'll
59:09head over to you so I'll head over to you so I'll
59:09through meetings that have lasted well over four hours.
59:13However, as Mr. Rothwell stated,
59:17it is the freedom of speech.
59:20Mr. Rothwell and Mr. Kern, you've both voted against that,
59:23and your interpretation has shown a very unsatisfying
59:29and disappointing understanding of freedom of speech
59:32here in Riverhead inside a town board meeting.
59:35I hope that that's clear not only to who's listening today,
59:39but if this is quoted in the newspaper at all.
59:43Our voices are being restricted.
59:46I would have helped to add to the commentary
59:49on why it was important, but I felt Mr. Shea
59:52and Cindy Clifford said it eloquently
59:54and offered thoughtful consideration in the details
59:57that may not have come before today
1:00:00in considering whether or not to pass those rules.
1:00:03I am thoroughly disappointed.
1:00:05Thank you.
1:00:08So voices are not restricted.
1:00:09That podium is open to one and all.
1:00:11And so is by email.
1:00:12So is by phone.
1:00:13So we will always be open to hear from every resident
1:00:16inside the town or anybody outside the town.
1:00:18As is Zoom.
1:00:19As well as Zoom.
1:00:20Because the board elected to keep that available for folks.
1:00:23Okay. Anybody else in the room or online for open comment?
1:00:28Nobody else online.
1:00:29Nobody else, it looks like, in the room.
1:00:30So with that, we'll ask for a motion to close the town.
1:00:34So moved.
1:00:35Seconded.
1:00:36All in favor?
1:00:38All opposed?
1:00:39That concludes the town board meeting.
1:00:40Thank you very much, everybody.
1:01:04Thank you.

Full Transcript

Thank you. [transcription gap] Thank you, Grace. And Councilman Rothwell, do we have somebody with us today to lead us in the invocation? We do. We are honored to have Reverend David Cook here from the Calvary Baptist Church here in Riverhead. Welcome, Reverend. Thank you for joining us today. Thank you for having me. Let's pray. Heavenly Father, we come before you here this afternoon. We come before you humbly recognizing that we are in desperate need of you. We pray, Lord, that you would help us. We pray, Lord, that you would grant peace into these proceedings, Lord, that there would be peace that surpasses understanding, that everyone here would cheerfully and patiently hear what everyone else has to say, that there would be a sense of just charity for one another's opinions. Pray, Lord, that we would love one another as we would have others love us, Lord. We pray that we would consider others more important than ourselves. We pray, Lord, that you would. We pray, Lord, that you would. meeting, Lord, that, again, the things that are accomplished here would be profitable for those in this community, and that would be in line with your will. We just thank you, Lord, we praise you for all that you do. We pray this in Jesus' name. Amen. Amen. Thank you very much, Reverend. Appreciate it. Thank you, Reverend. Okay, and I'll just make one quick announcement before we get started, which is, of course, the obvious, that Supervisor Hubbard is not with us today, and the reason for that is good news. He became a grandfather for the sixth time. They welcomed a little baby girl into the Hubbard family. Little Molly is doing just fine, so he's with the family welcoming Molly, and so we congratulate all them and wish them well. Mom and baby are doing just fine. So with that, I'll turn it over to the board if anybody else has any announcements they want to make. Now would be the time. I did not have a grandchild today. Oh, no? Okay. It's hard to compete with that. Well, that's why you're here. So my announcement is this coming Saturday, March 8th, is our second annual raising of the Irish flag, which we're doing in anticipation for the East Adnabal Society Jamesport Parade, which is March 15th. The flag raising is at 1030 in the morning at... What is the name of that? The George Young Community Center over there. It escaped me. Jamesport Avenue. So come on down and... And join us, and we hope to see you at the parade. And wear green. All right. Anybody else? No, thanks. And see our new motorcycle units leading the parade. Oh, okay. Which is a great excitement. Oh, that's exciting. Good. I have one thing. Sure. Tomorrow, March 5th, the Butterfly Effect is having a little gathering at their operation in Aquavog. I believe it starts at 12. Please check in with them to confirm that. Should be very interesting. Good. Okay. So we'll move on with the agenda. And Mr. Clark, we'll turn it over to you to take us through any correspondence and reports that we may have. Well, this should be brief as well. We have one correspondence, which was handed up actually at the last town board meeting, from Lorraine Wilson from Reeves Park, with pictures that got circulated to the board in reference to Reeves Park and the memorials that are placed there. Under reports, because it's so early on, we don't have any monthly reports. They'll be at the next meeting. So there's nothing to report on reports. And that's it. Thank you. Okay. Very good. So with that, we're going to move on to public hearings, of which we have eight on the docket today, seven of which are scheduled for 2 o'clock. So what we're going to do, just because we have two different planners who are going to kind of take the lead on the different hearings, we're going to go slightly out of order, then they're listed on the agenda. Right, Matt? That's correct. So we're going to take, Matt's going to walk us through public hearings number one, three, four, five, six, and seven. So he's going to introduce those, right? Did I get that right? One, three, five, six, and seven. I'm sorry. One, three, five, six, and seven. Yep. So you'll introduce those for us, and then we'll open it up to comment on any of those public hearings, and then we'll move on to the others. Perfect. I'll keep it very brief because it's very simple. So if you see in the agenda, these are amendments to the sign code, to the Pine Barrens Overlay District, the wireless communication code, the commercial solar energy production system code, and the B2B code. So what this does is remove the old zoning use districts that no longer exist. So that's industrial A, industrial B, and industrial C. And in search of the new zoning use districts, Calverton Industrial and Light Industrial, which Light Industrial already existed, but it was remapped a little bit. This is just leftover housekeeping from the comp plan. That's it. Come on, that's it? That's it. Okay. All right. So with that, does anybody in the audience have any comment? On any of the public hearings Matt just spoke about? Anybody online? No takers today. Okay. All right. So having said that, what we'll do is we will keep it open for written comment. It's going to be the same timeframe for all the public hearings today, but specifically for those that Matt spoke about until March 14th, 430, close of business on that day. So now we'll move on to Greg's public hearings, and he's going to take us through and introduce public hearing number two, and public hearing number four. Thank you. For the record, Greg Bergman, senior planner with the Riverhead Planning Department. So the first public hearing is an amendment to Article LVI site plan review of Chapter 301 of the Riverhead Town Code. Right now our preliminary site plan approval is valid for 12 months. There's the possibility of one six-month extension being granted by the reviewing board, whether it's the planning board or the town board. We frankly got a couple of applications that have a lot of outside agents, and we're going to have to make sure that we're getting them. But there's a lot of outside agencies that they're sort of trying to get their ducks in a row. So I'm proposing a code amendment to allow an additional six-month extension, which would essentially bring that preliminary approval valid for two years. No more than two six-month extensions could be granted. Frankly, if something, if an applicant hasn't gotten there, you know, pieces in a row, if they haven't gotten there preliminary and satisfied the conditions, two years frankly would be a time period where we may want to sort of take another look at it. You know, there may have been new development there. developments in the surrounding area that need to be taken into account. So this is just a code amendment to allow one additional six-month extension, and it also adds a $250 fee per those requests. Previously, we were not charging any fees for those extensions. Okay. Thank you for that. Anybody in the audience to comment? Anybody online? No. Okay. Oh, you do have one. Okay. Let's take that person online.

Good afternoon. Can you hear us? Yes, I can hear you now. Hello? Hi there. Go ahead, Marty. We can hear you. Yeah. Hi. Martin Senemulski, 215 Roanoke Avenue, Riverhead. With regard to the extension, I mean, it's good to add another extension for six months, but the problem that we run into in preparation of site plans for approvals and special permits and final site plan approvals, especially special permits and preliminary site plans, the process takes a while. Like Greg said, there's a lot of ducks in a row. So, as an example, we have a project that, now, granted, eight months of the delay was on my client's part because he had to get a SWIP done. And he had an engineer that wasn't producing, so he had to switch to another engineer. But we had an eight-month delay on my client's part, but still, the SWIP took 28 months. Whoa. So, if you get rid of the eight-month delay on our part, it was a two-year project. So, it's a two-year process. They're in the preliminary site plan phase. So, my question is, and also, when it comes to preliminary site plans, we've had a couple of them expire, even though we've never received a notice from the town as required by the code that it's going to expire. So, you know, inadvertently, a couple have expired because of, you know, it's been a year or whatever. My question is, what's the legislative intent here? In other words, what's the legislative intent? Why do special permits and preliminary site plans and even final site plans, why would they expire? If there's no change in the zoning, there's no change in the underlying parameters of the project, why does somebody invest in a project, go through all that process, and sometimes the process can take years just to have it expire within a certain period of time if they want to sit on it, sit on it, and then go back to it? Yeah. [transcription gap] Yeah. Yeah. I would say that things certainly evolve over time. In a period of two years, there may be local alerts changing. When we're looking at overall site plans and we're looking at, I'll take the emergency side of things, fire trucks, dimensions, sizes, particular apparatuses, advance over the years, they change. So we look at new radiuses, specifications for site plans. So, you know, a new fire truck takes over now at this point two years to order one and to have one installed. So when they arrive on scene, you know, they're that far behind in the factory making of things. So I don't think there's an issue with after a two-year time frame to go back to a site plan and take a look at it and see how we have evolved in a town to emergency access, site plan, just things, you know, that grow. We've talked about a couple of different building legislations, just as you led in with pervious pavers, non-pervious pavers, just in terms of whether we're going to just amend site plans to allow different things. And, you know, that's a big part of it. And we're looking at more decorative and landscape work to be done on different site plans. And so things evolve, and we want to make sure that we stay conformed to that. So two years, I think, is a pretty long time. Well, and so for the board's knowledge, two years is just for the preliminary. Once an applicant, you know, finishes their SWIP, gets all the other necessary outside approvals, they're granted a final site plan approval by the board, which is valid for three years with the possibility of a 12-month extension. So when you look at the... I mean, the totality of what we're considering, it would be two years for a preliminary and then four years for a final. So, I mean, if something is going to be built in six years, I mean, I think that's perfectly reasonable. Again, a lot can change in six years where you may need to reassess that. And, Mr. Berman, correct me if I'm wrong, but this is also move on from a developer, not tie up the property if they can't get the preliminary done within two years. Isn't that part of this legislation as well? Not necessarily. We would like to see projects brought to completion. Again, the 28-month SWIP review, I can't speak to any specific... I have no knowledge of that, but I would certainly say that's likely the outlier. Again, you know, I've seen SWIPs that are approved much, much quicker than 28 months. There is a little bit of review back and forth. But a SWIP is only going to be as good as the, you know, preparer of that SWIP. You know, there's regulations by the DEC and the SWIP guidelines. You know, if something's prepared and they adequately address a lot of those points, there's no reason why that should take 28 months. But I can't speak to that specific application with any knowledge. But, again, I think six years for something that would be built is very reasonable. I guess the question I have is when you use the term that right now it expires, it would almost be better if, yeah, if a project is delayed and then it starts up again and there's a fee to check. I mean, you know, it's not like you're going to have to go back and forth between the site again to make sure it meets the current codes if there were things that changed either in the zoning or in certain requirements that affect the site. But the expiration means you go back to square one. It means you have nothing. So if you do a site plan and for whatever reason, it could be somebody passes away and the approval is now in an estate that takes time to settle or whatever the reason might be. Okay. If it expires. They lose everything. They lose all of the investment and all of the effort. Why? I mean, I understand the reviewing it again and paying a fee to reinstitute the project to reinitiate it, to get it started again. I agree with that. But why would any of these approvals expire where you have to go back to square one? That's really, I think, where an issue that has to be addressed. And is it your intent? To say, look, after a certain period of time, no matter what the circumstance, tough on them, go back to square one and start over. So, Greg, if somebody completed their SWIFT plan and their application expired, does that mean it's not usable or you simply file it with the current data? You would just refile the application. So I wouldn't say all is lost, Marty. It's just a matter of refiling, resubmitting with updated codes. Yeah, but then it's going to go through the process again. It's going to go through the same process. It's going to go site plan review, ARB, historic. It's going to go through every, it's basically a do-over. Unless I'm wrong. It may be great to clarify that. I mean, to put it down bluntly, yes. I mean, again, six years. Six years, I believe, is a very reasonable time to complete a project. I mean, again, if, by this logic, if we just continue it, would we want something that was approved maybe 20 years ago that never got built? That just, oh, well, they had an approval 20. 20 years ago, so here's a building permit. You know, I... So I imagine there is a time frame, Marty, when CEQA does expire. And so with that being said, that CEQA, after a certain period of time, would have to be updated and have to be re-reviewed. And you couldn't carry it for beyond that time frame, correct? Okay. I mean, a secret determination wouldn't necessarily expire. But again, there's many different factors. And I think, I mean, we're talking about granting an extension. You know, allowing for additional extensions right now. The code has, you know, an 18-month limitation on a preliminary approval. We're trying to be more sort of receptive to the development community, not have certain applications expire. I mean, again, if the board wants to consider this for a future action, we can discuss that. But I mean, I think what we're here is commenting on allowing an additional six-month extension on a preliminary approval. Yep. If there are, in fact, surrounding projects that, you know, we're talking about, you know, we're talking about one site plan and then something to the left or to the right of it is developed over that period of time, then you probably will be looking at a new site plan to see how the adjacent parcels currently affect the new project. All right. We may look for additional cross-access. You know, it's very difficult to speculate how a neighboring property would be developed. But yes, in that case, we might look for additional cross-access locations that would help facilitate, you know, traffic flow, pedestrian flow, that sort of thing. So. Just because one development may be stalled, it doesn't mean that the surrounding areas are not. And they're moving forward and they have an overall impact. Correct. I guess then the only comment I would have is if you had two extensions, which is good, could you make them two one-year extensions instead of two six-month extensions? Because in terms of development, even in preliminary site plan, to be honest with you, three months, I mean, three years at times seems like a flash in the pan based on going through the process. So you may want to consider extending the periods a little bit longer. That's all. That's all I have. Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Marty. Yeah. You know, what concerns me is that the no expiration notification. So when it expires, we send out notifications? Let me see. So I just want to make sure. So there's a provision when an application expires. If we don't hear anything from an applicant.

So there is no, I believe what Mr. Senlewski was referring to is if an application is inactive, whereas we haven't heard anything from an applicant in a certain period of time. The expiration of a preliminary approval or a final approval does not require notification to the applicant. It's in the resolution. It says the resolution is valid for 12 months with the possibility of a six-month extension or 36 months, whatever stage we're in. I appreciate that, Greg. And I will add that a lot of departments are not able to get a six-month extension. So I think that's a good point. I think that a lot of developers, and I think you know this, just given the cost of the interest rates, they've been really slow to hit the ground. And I know they're sitting on the sidelines kind of waiting for things to change and come out and, you know, start up again. But okay. Thanks. Okay. Anybody else in the room to comment on this public hearing? Nobody else online? So I think we'll move on. But again, we'll leave that public hearing. We'll leave that public hearing open for written comment until March 14th. Close of business 430 at the end of the day. Thank you. All right. Next public hearing is another amendment to Riverhead Town Code Chapter 301, Article XLVIII, entitled Signs. Essentially what this does is adds a section called Miscellaneous Provisions, which would allow signs erected by governmental authorities and or related political subdivisions, such as Riverhead Fire District. Riverhead Volunteer Ambulance Corps, Riverhead Public Library, to establish signs on their properties that with review of the planning department and a resolution of the town board could exempt them from the specific zoning districts. I have been approached by the Riverhead Fire District. They inquired about putting a, you know, an LED informational sign out in front of their property. I did a little bit of looking into the sign code. It's located in the business PB zoning district. I have been approached by the Riverhead Fire District. They inquired about putting a LED informational sign out in front of their property. It's located in the business PB zoning district. It does not permit that type of sign. Again, so it would allow them to make an application to the building department for a sign permit. Planning department would review it and transmit a recommendation to the town board, at which point the town board could waive specific elements of the sign code to facilitate those signs. Good. Okay. Anybody in the public, from the public want to comment on this? Anybody online? Seeing no comments. Okay. Anybody? Once again, we'll leave it open for written comment until March 14th. Thank you, Greg. Thank you. So that brings us to our eighth public hearing, scheduled for 2-10. And that will be introduced by our town attorney, Eric Howard. All right. Thank you. Under Chapter 229 of the town code, where there is excavation proposed or required pursuant to a site plan or some kind of site plan. Okay. Subdivision, the head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head increase to the fee being charged. Currently it's $2. We're proposing to raise it to $3.

Okay. And that's per cubic yard. Okay. Thank you, Eric. Anybody in the audience want to comment on this resolution? Nobody online? Okay. So we'll once again leave it open for written comment until 4.30 on March 14th. That concludes the public hearing portion of the meeting. We'll move on to resolutions. I'll commend the Deputy Supervisor for running eight public hearings within 22 minutes approximately. It's a gift. So we'll move on to resolutions. Anybody in the audience want to comment on any of the resolutions before the town board today? Come on up.

Hello. Cindy Clifford, Riverhead. I'm here to address the resolution to implement new rules for meetings. I understand it sprang from a few recent incidents where the meeting or a particular speaker got out of control. But for the most part, I think you could agree residents come into this room and up to this podium, often with emotion but as a rule, all behaving like adults. With the exception perhaps of that particular meeting where the room filled with a rambunctious crowd, the majority of whom were not residents of Riverhead, whose comments ignored the instructed parameters and whose behavior to anyone voicing opposition to the resolution was not to their intent, was met with insults and a threatening hostility that I can attest to firsthand. Because of that, I wonder why this resolution doesn't also include limiting comments strictly to Riverhead residents. I'd suggest you strongly consider that for the future. But for right now, I'm here to object that while you did reverse the banning of Zoom, and thank you for that, you did retain banning signs in the boardroom. Not everyone is comfortable speaking publicly. As a matter of fact, you may already know this, fear of speaking publicly is a legitimate thing with 40% of the population suffering from it. So many that it has a name, glossophobia. For those people, four out of 10 who have a strong opinion but could never get up here to tell you themselves, holding up a sign is how they'll know that you see where they stand and what they want or don't want. That's something sending a letter won't accomplish. Prohibiting residents from holding up a sign robs them of being able to contribute their opinion. To give input into any of the issues discussed or decisions about to be made, thereby limiting their participation in our local government. It's worth noting that only the really big issues bring out that level of opposition. EPCAL, warehouses, a heart of River head's civic survey showed an overwhelming support for the right to use signs in town board meetings. The note was that out of concern for them not blocking views, you could simply require that signs be limited to the back of the room. back of the room. That's not a hard request to be followed. But to ban signs completely, to prohibit residents from being able to express their views and know that they are seen, that should be every resident's right. I also briefly want to address today's vote to absolve Island Water Park of its illegal activities and to question how it is that the board will count on the management to follow through with the enforceable conditions they're reportedly agreeing to. And what will you do the next time, given their record for skating the rules now and asking for forgiveness later? Yours is not the responsibility to secure financial stability for a business, but to secure safety and protocols and compliance within the town. Thank you. Thank you, Cindy. Anybody else in the room to comment on resolutions? Mr. McAuliffe. John McAuliffe from Rolling Woods, Roanoke Landing. Two points on the resolution concerning board procedure, which are very similar to Cindy's, but phrased a little differently and with a different context. For better or for worse, Riverhead is a one-party. Town. Obviously, every member of the board is of one party, and that's fine. That's who people voted for. But I think that puts especially important the question of how interaction happens with people who are not members of that party, whether they're independent or Democrats, and the general public. And I think that that should be the parameter, or the frame that you should use in thinking about your procedures. I think the issue of signs is described in the resolution as having to do with visibility or disruption. I think it has to do with the politics, the visual politics of what's going on. There's nothing that when you're trying to push something through, and oftentimes you've generated this opposition that's shown up in signs. When you're trying to push something through, the last thing you want to have is an article in the News Review or River head local, which has, as the graphic of that article, a bunch of people from River head with signs up because that's the most interesting new visual of a particular board meeting. So I think what you're doing is trying to limit the impact of what's going on in river head's the impact of opposition to the positions that the board is inclined to take by removing signs what Cindy said is to having them in the back of the room the back two or three rows I think is perfectly reasonable if that were the issue but I frankly don't think it's a question of blocking people's views people usually have small signs they lift them up they put them down it's not not a impossible for people sitting in back of them to see or certainly hear what's going on so so I would urge you to postpone action on that resolution I think it also should be postponed because it's the kind of issue that you would probably get more people here if it were an evening meeting I'd say postpone it to an evening meeting and and get feedback from people from a variety of perspectives the ! other thing I didn't know that Cindy was going to say this but I think that the issue of I think people of Riverhead by right should be heard you're our board this is our town this is our tax money that is often being decided upon I think the people of Riverhead have a right to be heard I don't think people that live outside of Riverhead have any right to be heard by the board the board can on its discretion invite them invite one or two representatives of a perspective that comes from outside of town but if you think of the last few years there have been board meetings totally dominated by people who do not live in Riverhead who are not taxpayers who don't have skin in the game in terms of the long-term impact on Riverhead of what's being discussed they have an interest or they wouldn't be here whether it was a water park or there were group there was a group here trying to convince you to to join a an effort to question the whole way voting tallies were done and they had one person from Riverhead that's fine if you have someone from Riverhead that person should carry the water but to have other people who have no connection other than their own agenda and interest and their people from the left from housing groups also that have been here that have so you've had people from both the right and the left and economic self-interests who take your time take the resources of the town to express their interest now they obviously as you've said before they can write letters they can have a representative on the agreement of the chair they could have a representative speak on their behalf but I think it's absurd to to let people who who aren't part of Riverhead to dominate a meeting regardless of whether it's an issue of left right center or economic self-interest thank you okay thank you John anybody else well John I would disagree with the simple fact there are projects that are close to borderlines that affect you know people to our left and to our right and that they need to be heard on the different projects and they have a right to come to speak that's what free speech is all about good afternoon Claudette Bianco Bading Hollow in reference to the resolution with the Island Water Park I just want to express my feelings but I know that many others feel the same way I am sorely disappointed that you are allowing this serial violator of town laws and regulations codes to continue to do that and now you're putting a rubber stamp on what he's done instead of protecting our water supply I'm sure you drink as well and go protecting the residents interest actions speak louder than words you have consistently said this man abuses the rules and regulations and today you're about to vote and give him permission to continue to do so personally I disagree I think he should be held to account he's done it repeatedly he doesn't care about the rules and regulations and now you've given him carte blanche to clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear deck on Island Water Park but before I do that I wanted to just clarify and I know I'm out of order councillor Howard on the exportation or the excavation fees is it exportation and importation that's being it's both because you mentioned only exportation and excavation but it's also material coming into the site correct excavation it's a situation permits it's an it's importation and exportation of material so I just think it's important to say that if you are bringing material on your right of sight it is yeah it's a sorry I don't have it pulled up real quick give me one second

okay yes so you're okay yes so you're okay yes so you're remembering remembering remembering or return or return to so if you need fill on the site you would also be required okay thank you I just wanted to clarify that thank you resolution 234 the amendment which is the subject of this resolution is misclassified as an unlisted action staffs own comments in a report dated July 29th 2020 on a prior Island water park amendment contains the following statement quote based upon the prior seeker classification as a title of the site plan and the proposed changes of use and changes to the site plan must be treated as a type one action pursuant to seeker this amendment to then should have been a type one action subject to further environmental review in a supplemental EIS having raised this issue before I have yet to hear your response as lead agency to this contradiction in your seeker record as we all should know by now a conditional negative declaration cannot be issued for a type one action nevertheless here we are I acknowledge that there are times that were not necessarily on the same page but in this case I dare say we are not even reading the same book according to the seeker handbook a conditional negative declaration should never rely on future investigation to develop conditions of mitigation the mitigating conditions must be explicitly defined by the EIS when the CND is issued but this CND is doing just that relying on future investigation by an involved agency the DEC based upon that agency's comments Island water park must submit a request for parcel jurisdiction determination to determine whether a freshwater wetland permit will be required if disturbance to the regulated area cannot be avoided Island must Island water park must submit a permit application under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under EIS under E include as a condition of support of a CND the requirement that approval of another agency be obtained? The answer is no. Requiring the applicant to obtain the approval of another agency when that approval is already legally required is not a mitigation measure. Such is the case for the approval by the Suffolk County Department of Health. The long environmental assessment form identified potential for moderate to large impacts to groundwater which must be further reviewed by the permitting agency to determine what, if any, mitigation measures are needed. Merely stating the requirement that the applicant obtain a Suffolk County Health Department permit is insufficient. Condition number two of your resolution cannot support your CND. This resolution should be tabled until the appropriate application is submitted to the Health Department and the DEC to determine whether there are mitigation measures which must be identified and required by these agencies. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you, Barbara. Anybody else in the room to comment on resolutions before the board today? So now we'll go online. It looks like we have two people online. Okay. We'll head over to Barbara's phone line so she can clear up her head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear clear head clear head clear head clear head clear head clear I can hear you. Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. Go ahead, sir. Thanks. First time, big fan. Thanks a lot for having the town hall meeting. My is going to be... Excuse me, sir. If you could just state your name and your hamlet for the record and for the town clerk, please. My name is Kevin Shea. I'm from Bading Hollow, New York. Thank you. Thank you. I'm here under Resolution 230. It's a two-part. It's brief. First, I want to make sure I acknowledge that I'm probably not going to add additional information that Cindy and John have said. Maybe I'm doing it a different format. But there are two parts. The one where I'm going to argue for allowing for signs, posters, and flyers in the town hall meeting. And the second one is to possibly give... Suggestions which I can send this as an email as a substantial comment to wherever email you'd ask me to do it. So I'll begin. The first argument would be we want to make sure we have free speech and democratic. I heard one of the council members mention that just now. The First Amendment protects the right to free expression, including the use of signs, posters, and flyers in public forum like town hall meetings. Town halls are essential venue-specific engagement. And visual materials allow residents to... Clearly communicate their messages, especially when verbal participation may be limited in time. The second one would be enhancing public discourse. Signs and flyers help summarize the complex issues that may be coming from attendees. Providing key talking points that facilitate more informed discussion. They allow residents to express viewpoints visually, which can be especially valuable for those who may not feel comfortable speaking publicly. The third argument would be that it obviously is more inclusive for this participation. Some participants may have disabilities, language barriers that make verbal participation difficult. Signs and flyers provide an alternate means of expression. Community members who arrive late or leave early can still absorb some of the key messages by reading the posters or picking up flyers. So those are my three arguments. And... Decline. And... Sublet. Sublet. looking to add on or at least for you guys to consider so therefore you do not have those distractions or obstructions That you're concerned about I have basically five of them I'll go briefly one is size and placement restrictions you can have the signs It could be handheld or placed in designated areas to prevent obstruction of sight lines You can have two large banners that should be Positioned on walls or stands at the back of the room rather than blocking the seat areas It could be non-disruptive if signs they must be silent no electronic and noise making signs There should be no waiting throwing or using signs in a way that disrupts the meeting contact Okay Number three content neutrality the rules must apply equally to all viewpoints to avoid selective enforcement It should be prohibited to content that should be limited to threats Obscenity or incitement to violence for would be flyer distribution guidelines flyer should be placed on a designated table For voluntary pickup rather than being handed out during the meeting No, low littering participants must dispose of the uncollected flyers and five time for visual displays So a brief Designated time before after the meeting would allow participants to display large posters or banners for visibility without disrupting the procedures procedures Proceedings by adopting these for policies the Town Council can respect the free expression while ensuring that the meetings remain accessible orderly and fair for all participants Thank you. That's all I need to say except maybe I can get an email where I can send it to Send it to me. Yep. Go ahead Jim. Yeah, it would be a town website Riverhead down Riverhead NY gov attention town clerk. So be town clerk at the Riverhead Down a riverhead NY gov. I thank you very much. I'll yield my time I thank you very much. I'll yield my time Okay, thank you sir chip we have one more person online just quickly a point of clarification Prohibiting signs in town board meetings was ruled constitutional by the Federal Second Circuit Court of Appeals in City of Kingston in Tyler v City of Kingston and that's a 2023 case the board has the ability to implement rules At their meetings provided those rules are reasonable and content neutral Thank you. Okay. Thank you for the clarification and we have one more online, right?

No, they changed their mind, okay All right, so nobody else online doesn't look like we have anybody else in the room looking to comment on resolutions So with that, mr. Clerk if you could call the resolutions, please sure. We'll start resolution number one, which is resolution 210 So with that, mr. Clerk if you could call the resolutions, please sure. We'll start resolution number one, which is resolution 210 budget adoption for the removal of all litter garbage refuse rubbish upon the premises known as 12 Longview Drive in Riverhead Suffolk County New York Suffolk County tax map numbers budget adoption for the removal of all litter garbage refuse rubbish upon the premises known as 12 Longview Drive in Riverhead Suffolk County New York Suffolk County tax map numbers 600 point dash zero zero one four point zero zero dash two point zero zero through zero twelve point zero zero zero so moved second though, please Waski yes, very field. Yes. Yes Rockwell. Yes Higgins I don't vote you don't vote Voting authorities almost unanimous. Okay Resolution was adopted resolution to 11 Epco emergency access road capital project five two three one one budget adoption so moved seconded No, please Waski yes, very field. Yes, Kern. Yes, Rockwell. Yes Resolution is adopted resolution to 12 water district capital project a two zero five zero américans so moved so moved Seconded no, please. Waski. Yes, very field. Yes, she's head head head Resolution 213. Accepts donation of roses for the Senior Center. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Waske. Yes, thank you to the Gabelsons. Merrifield. Yes, they were beautiful. Thank you very much. Kern. Yes, thank you to the Gabelson family. And Rothwell. Yes, thank you. You're welcome. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 214. Accepts donation from Tuttle-Megano Funeral Home for the Senior Center. So moved. Second. I'm sorry. Vote, please. Waske. Yes. Merrifield. Yes, and again, thank you very much. It was a huge tree of lotto tickets. Kern. Yes, and thank you very much. Rothwell. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 215. Authorizes Seward District employee to attend seminar. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Waske. Yes. Merrifield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 216. Reappoints members and appoints new member to the Small Business Advisory Committee. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Waske. Yes. Merrifield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Excellent group of people. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 217. Appoints Ken Zelnicki as a member to the Riverhead Farmland Preservation Committee. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Waske. Yes. Merrifield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Is a vast knowledge. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 218. Appoints a wastewater treatment plant operator trainee. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Waske. Yes. Merrifield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 219. Appoints an automotive mechanic to. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Waske. Yes. Merrifield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 220. Ratifies the transfer of an employee into a provisional appointment of the Community Development Program Analyst. So moved. Seconded. Vote, please. Waske. Yes. Merrifield. Yes. Kern. That's a no for me at this time. Rothwell. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Yes. ! soit.

yes Rothwell yes resolutions adopted resolution 223 ratifies the promotion of an employee to assistant recreation superintendent one so moved seconded please wasky yes Mary field yes turn yes Rothwell yes resolution is adopted resolution 224 ratifies the promotion of a public safety dispatcher one to a public safety dispatcher two so moved seconded vote please wasky yes Mary field yes turn yes Rothwell yes resolutions adopted resolution 225 approve salary adjustments for principal garage mechanics so moved seconded vote please wasky yes Mary field yes turn yes Rothwell yes resolutions adopted resolution 226 terminates an MPA an active employee from the police department so moved second please wasky yes very few yes turn yes well yes resolutions adopted resolution 227 authorizes the supervisor to execute a license agreement with broadcast music Inc BMI so move seconded please wasky yes very few yes turn yes Rothwell yes resolutions adopted resolution 228 authorizes the supervisor to execute lease renewal agreement authorizing the town to lease a vehicle from Suffolk County Office of the Aging for Transportation Services for elderly residents non-proton so moved seconded vote please wasky yes very field yes turn yes Rothwell yes resolution is adopted resolution 229 ratifies authorization to purchase Calriss to 109 for the water district so moved seconded vote please yes Mary field yes turn yes Rothwell yes resolution is adopted resolution 230 men's adopted rules and procedures for the town board of the town of Riverhead so moved second vote please wasky yes Mary field yes turn yes Rothwell yes resolution is adopted resolution 231 approved special event chapter 255 application for st. John the Baptist Ukrainian Church Church of the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Holy Ghost so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved so moved Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 232. Approve special event chapter 255 application for cystic fibrosis foundation. CF cycle for life. So moved. Second. Vote please. Waske. Yes. Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 233. Awards request for qualifications for engineering services during construction for Class A biosolids upgrade project for Riverhead Sewer District. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waske. Yes. Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Thank you, Michael Reichel, sitting in the back. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 234. Assumes lead agency issues conditional negative declaration for the site plan application of a site plan application. Island Water Park, DBA, Scotts Point, 5835 Middle Country Road, Calverton, New York, Suffolk County, tax map number 600-135-1-7.34. So moved. Second. Vote please. Waske. Yes. Murrayfield. No. And I base that very succinctly. Mrs. Blass made a very good presentation. I think that pretty much sums it up. I vote no. I think an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Thank you. No. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 235. Adopts a local law amending chapter 207 of the Riverhead Town Code entitled Animals. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waske. Yes. Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 236. Adopts a local law amending chapter 257 of the Riverhead Town Code entitled Animals. So moved. Resolution 237 of the Riverhead Town Code entitled Peddling and Soliciting. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waske. Yes. Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 237. Adopts a local law amending chapter 301 of the Riverhead Town Code entitled Zoning and Land Development 301-229 Yard Sales, Attic Sales, Garage Sales, and Auction Sales. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waske. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 238. Ratifies authorization for the supervisor to execute an agreement with the Riverhead Town Police Benevolent Association. So moved. Second. Vote please. Waske. Yes. Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Absolutely. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 239. Authorizes submission of application for body armor vests where code enforcement is required. Code enforcement officers. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waske. Yes. Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Resolution is adopted. Resolution 240. Ratified the rescinding of Town Board Resolution 2022-181 and Town Board Resolution 2022-723. So moved. Seconded. Vote please. Waske. Yes. Murrayfield. Yes. Kern. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Hubbard. I'm sorry. No Hubbard. No Hubbard. But we'll pay the bills anyway. Resolution is adopted. That concludes the resolution. Okay. Thank you, Jim. So with that, at the conclusion of resolutions here, we'll move on to open comments. And we'll close with a motion to approve the resolution. So moved. Seconded. Waske. Yes. Waske. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. Hubbard. Yes. Rothwell. Yes. And we'll of course open it up to the folks in the room first, and then we'll move on to anybody who is online. So if anybody in the room wishes to comment, now is the open comment period. John McAuliffe from Roanoke Landing. Two comments. One, I'll just clear this up so you can clear yourself up. I'll clear this up so you can clear yourself up. [transcription gap] board to express their opinions for whatever motivation but does not extend to the people of Riverhead holding up a sign I will be interested to see if we get to the point that people do come and hold up signs whether you're going to have them arrested or at least expelled from the room for holding up a three by five five ten by five or whatever size sign and you'll have to deal with that as it happens my main reason now though is to note something from a larger world three years ago members of the board and people from Riverhead filed outside of the board meeting to the lawn and joined in expressing their complete opposition to the brutal Russian invasion of Ukraine that took place in the early 1990s and I think that's a very important point to me I think it was not unprovoked but it was unjustified it's been ruled that way by virtually everyone including the U.S government until very recently I think that it if you were serious then I think that you should consider in a work session and bring to the board a resolution that would express your support for the people of Ukraine and your support for continuing U.S assistance to them so I'll leave you with that so I'll leave you with that two days in Washington they have opened up a situation in which 2,000 ton bombs will be given to or sold to Israel that will be used potentially again in Gaza and elsewhere in the region there were 30,000 is what the paper said it's hard to imagine 30,000 2,000 pound bombs but those were approved at the same time the US has now stopped all military assistance to Ukraine I hope that that's just a temporary matter of peak and temporary matter of trying to get leverage I think there does need to be a serious peace negotiation but the US should be on in that negotiation not as a neutral party but as a party which believes that Russia has no right to have invaded bombed destroyed and destroyed the country and the United States has no right to have destroyed and occupied territory in Ukraine at least I leave aside the question of Crimea but I think anything after Crimea is something that the world cannot tolerate and I hope that given the history of this board in expressing an opinion about the original invasion that you now find a way to write to our congressperson and write to the president on this matter thank you very much thank you John anybody else in the room to comment during the open comment period nobody else in the room anybody online looks like we have somebody

hi there this is talk we church in with greater Calvert and Civic Association are you able to hear me yes we can hear you terrific I'm sorry I can't do the video my I'll lose the audio if I do so hopefully you can see the insignia for greater coverage and Civic Association I was hoping to speak during resolutions but if there seemed to be a little bit of a mix-up but I'm going to I'd like to speak now I won't have the effect on your votes that you just took but there are two points I'd like to speak to number one I'd like to thank Barbara blast and Denise Merrifield for first for the explanation that Barbara last offered for the distinction between the unlisted action and the type one action of seeker for the Island Water Park site plan application and I think Denise Merrifield for her understanding of it and her voting against today's resolution number two on the resolution for town board rules you've now made your votes so that has a consequence right so we're now we now have legislation in the town of Riverhead where residents are voices are being restricted I mean it's just plain and simple in this and the opportunity to make more efficient a town board meeting which I appreciated so much so I'll head over to you so I'll head over to you so I'll head over to you so I'll head over to you so I'll through meetings that have lasted well over four hours. However, as Mr. Rothwell stated, it is the freedom of speech. Mr. Rothwell and Mr. Kern, you've both voted against that, and your interpretation has shown a very unsatisfying and disappointing understanding of freedom of speech here in Riverhead inside a town board meeting. I hope that that's clear not only to who's listening today, but if this is quoted in the newspaper at all. Our voices are being restricted. I would have helped to add to the commentary on why it was important, but I felt Mr. Shea and Cindy Clifford said it eloquently and offered thoughtful consideration in the details that may not have come before today in considering whether or not to pass those rules. I am thoroughly disappointed. Thank you. So voices are not restricted. That podium is open to one and all. And so is by email. So is by phone. So we will always be open to hear from every resident inside the town or anybody outside the town. As is Zoom. As well as Zoom. Because the board elected to keep that available for folks. Okay. Anybody else in the room or online for open comment? Nobody else online. Nobody else, it looks like, in the room. So with that, we'll ask for a motion to close the town. So moved. Seconded. All in favor? Aye. All opposed? That concludes the town board meeting. Thank you very much, everybody.

Thank you.