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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I do. Loud, clear voice. Please state your name and your address. My name is David Morgenstern, born May 20, 1953. How can we help you? I'm sorry? How can we help you? 24 Birch Lane, Waiting River. How can we help you? We own the house to the other side. I would tell you our house is about 1,600 square feet. I don't think there are any houses on the block that are more than about 2,000 square feet. This is a large house on a small piece of property. I'm concerned about the closeness to our property line. Something about here, about 15 feet from the property line. The opposite side. So how close are we? So just so we understand, this is not a colloquy between the two of you. Okay. Okay. Is there something else you want to add? I'm sorry? Is there something else you want to add? Yes. Also. I'd love to see a layout of the four sides of the property also. Is it possible to see that? Layout? What do you mean by layout? As far as the footprint of the house. Yeah. You have this survey. Yeah. Is that available? Yeah. Tracy, can we put that on the table and zoom it up on the screen for the gentleman? Tracy, we can use one. Yeah, I have one right here. Yeah, we all have one. Yeah. Yeah. You got it? Okay. Okay.
So you got that?
Can you see that, sir? Okay. So as I'm looking at this, the driveway would be on the right-hand side of the house. Looking at the house? Looking at the house? That's what it looks like, right? That's your property, right? Right. Sir, actually, you can come up to the table, and you can point to ... Because there's a microphone now that we'll be able to hear you. Okay. You can sit. You can sit.
Okay. And the ... This would be the ... This is the garage right here. It's opposite, so I'm trying to get used to this. Okay. And this would be ... This would be 35 feet to the property line. From my property line? Yes, correct. Okay. And how far back is the garage from the street? This is 30 feet, and the house itself is closer to 50 feet, but the garage is 50 feet. I see. So it's an L-shaped ... It's sort of L-shaped, correct. It goes from here across, and that's the L. Okay.
And like I said, we plan on putting privacy bushes here. And all through over here and across the back. So, you know, this way in case anyone feels that we're too close. I mean, I understand it's a small piece of property, but there's not really much bigger pieces available, you know, so unfortunately. And we love the area. We live right two streets away. So, but like I said, the privacy bushes would be all around the areas and even across some of the front, so. And the gentleman, they told you the property is adopted. So, you know, we're going to have to see if we can get it. And we're going to have to see if we can get it. And we're going to have to see if we can get it. Did you say doctor? Yeah. Is that ... He's a doctor? He's a retired doctor. I wasn't sure what he was living in. His house itself, I mean, I don't know what the sale is, but, you know, it's over here somewhere. He had a shed on that. Is that what he had? No, that's what I assumed, because that's what it looked like. It looked like it was a base for like a shed. I believe he moved it when he put the property up for sale. Right. He moved the shed. So, I'm just ... I plan on removing that slab so that way, you know, it's not ... Anything else, sir? Anything else? Anything else? Go ahead. Ma'am, ma'am, ma'am, ma'am. You want to raise your right hand, please? Sure. Hi. Geraldine Morgenstern. So, we're going to tell you a total truth, not a true truth. Yes, I do. Would you hand down, please, and loud and clear voice, please state your name and your address. Geraldine Morgenstern, 24 Birch Lane in Wading River. Was that your husband? Yes, that's my husband. Okay. Okay. My question is where the driveway is. Okay. You're saying that's 34 feet from our ... Correct. According to this, right here, it's just 34 feet right there. From that point of the house to the edge of the property. Okay. Now, the garage. Right. You said it's a two- Right. There would be two. There would be a car here and one there. Okay. Okay. So ... Because there is a street. Right now, that street is not being utilized, that part of Birch Lane. It's more like a flag lot for the gentleman that lives across the street, Matthew? Yes. He uses that as his driveway? Yes, he does. So, is that ... There are going to be a road there now, continued? I believe ... As of now, there is not. Because of where my driveway lies and the asphalt ends about here, I believe ... I'm just going to repave this so it's nice and clean and presentable as far as the rest of the road. I don't believe that Matt ... I haven't spoken to the homeowner across the street about it, but no. Well, it would be the towns, because that's a new road. That road is not utilized. Let's consider the town now, and it's not paved, so I'm not sure why that's the situation. But either way, it would be- That's town property. Right. Right. So, I would- We own it. It won't be paved. Right. So, that's ... The distance between the driveway, edge of the driveway and our property. Not the house, but the edge of the driveway. Question two. I'm not sure why that's the situation. Right. So, I would ... There would be at least three to five feet of property that I could plant, privacy bushes, et cetera. Okay, because our driveways are right close to that. Well, yeah. You have a detached garage, and it's definitely closer to the border. The distance between our driveway and your driveway is probably only about 10, 15 feet. I didn't do the measurements, but I don't know that. I don't know. I think that's what we were trying to find out. Right. But either way, I would have it all separated with privacy bushes. Okay. So, I would have to make a decision on the question of the garage. I don't know why. Will that be facing the road? Or would that be facing our house? The doors would be facing the house to the right. That's our property? Facing our property. Right. The doors themselves. The front of the house would be windows and we'd have shades in them so that way it didn't look ... I'm not worried about your shades. Okay. I just ... We were just concerned how this house sat on the property. Right. So, it looks like you have a side garage there and the front door is facing ... The front door would be right here. Okay. So, I would have to make a decision on that. I don't know why that's the case. I don't know why that's the case. this house sat on the property right so it looks like you have a side garage there and the front door is the front door would be right here okay with the covered porch yes correct okay you indicated you put up privacy bushes i am putting privacy bushes entire perimeter of the house okay my only concern was like getting in and out of the driveway that way so well it wouldn't change from what you're doing now not me like for me you going past there because there's not a lot of places to park and i know a lot of people right well the driveway is big enough to turn i'm not worried about your parking i'm just saying in general that you know when people come in and perhaps the mailman like right they're going to go down that street as you know it's very rough down there i'm assuming that he goes i don't know how far he goes to get to because there's another house further down that's why it's already been established so i don't know how far he goes down for that house he doesn't go down at all uh okay i don't i'm not aware of that how i don't know if anybody knows how it is right now it's very very rough the uh there the road barely goes down that road as you said the neighbor here and then it's gravel the rest of the way give me just just for your information all of us have visited that location oh you have oh okay so you understand uh you know the questions of where the road is going to be and traffic going down that way right perhaps like something like that okay that's really what we were concerned about and how close it was to our property okay are you satisfied so i'm okay that's really what we were concerned about and how close it was to our property okay are you satisfied now so yeah i'm not sure if you're satisfied with that i'm not sure if you're satisfied with that i'm not sure if you're satisfied with that i'm not sure if you're satisfied with that my questions have been answered okay can i ask you sure if uh the applicant agreed and the zoning board required that he plant a vegetative buffer uh would that uh resolve some of your concerns or issues that's you know a personal thing planting bushes things like that i think our main concern was the proximity to our driveway and for instance the mail truck coming around and A lot of trucks pull in our driveway if they go to our neighbor's house or back in and out of our driveway. So I guess that was one of our concerns. All right. Anybody else wish to be heard on this? Thank you. Thank you.
How are you, sir? I want to raise your right hand, please. This way, tell the truth, tell the truth, don't go to truth. How are you going? I do. Would you hand out, please, and allow to play a voice, please state your name and your address and your date of birth. Bonvison Matthew E., December 19, 1973, 16. Excuse me, can you raise the mic? Sorry. Thank you. Bonvison Matthew, date of birth, December 19, 1973, and I'm 16 Birch Lane, Waiting River. So I'm the other side. He would be over here in this area right here. There's a house right here on the other side. I'll put it this way. Right here. Is this gentleman's home? Yes. Is that accurate? Yes. Okay. So I'm actually partially standing here to get finally a good look at it. And my concerns were very similar to Dave and to Jerry on proximity as well as just the privacy. And I've got my own planting that I've got to do. So, John, are you saying also when you're talking about vegetation around. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Really to the garage face and the house itself is is closer to 50. Well, yeah, I don't remember. I don't recall what this number is from there to there, but it's over ten less than 30. You know, I mean, I don't know. 50, 12 feet. I don't something says 14 to. Yeah. Okay. So that would be 34 feet. It'll be another 34 feet in the front. Any else? No, no, sir. Thank you. Satisfied? Yes. Okay. Anybody else? Anybody on Zoom? No. Okay. So, Mr. Chairman, with respect to appeal number 2024 to zero zero eight, I move that the appeal of Dorothy DeFranco, Birch Lane, Weeding River, second county tax map. Suffolk County tax map number six hundred there's thirty three to five to twenty two in residence B80 zoning for variances and or relief from Chapter three or one to thirty one where proposed front yard setback is 30 foot where minimum allowed a 60 foot chapter three oh one there's 31 where proposed side yard setback of fifty three fifty three point three foot where minimum allowed is 30 foot chapter three oh one there's 31 were proposed combined side yard setback 49point three foot where minimum allowed a sixty five foot chapter three oh one there's 31 where proposed rear yard setback is thirty six foot where minimum allowed a seventy five foot in chapter three oh one there's where proposed impervious surface coverage is 34.5%, where maximum allowed is 15%, be granted with the provision that privacy bushes be planted around the perimeter and that the slab indicated in the survey be removed. Hereby be granted in accordance with the applications and sketches with amendments thereto, if any, filed with the building inspector. Second. Second. Aye. Aye. Motion. Aye. And response? Aye. Aye. And I vote aye. It's granted. Good luck to you. Drive carefully. Stay dry. Thank you very much. Good night, ladies and gentlemen. Okay. PL 2024-009. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And I vote aye. It's granted. Good luck to you. Good luck. Drive carefully. Stay dry. Thank you very much. Good night, ladies and gentlemen. Okay. PL 2024-009. Frank McVeigh. 1589 Connick Bay Boulevard, Laurel. Suffolk County Tax Map Number 600-71-2-32. Residence B40, RB40 zoning. Proposed ground-mounted solar. Applicant requests variances. Ender relief from Chapter 301. !15-1-15A1A where accessory structure or solar in the front yard not permitted. Who's here on this? One at a time. Good evening, sir. Good evening. Raise your right hand, please. Should I tell the truth, tell the truth, and then the truth's up, you got? I do. If you can't, please allow clear voice. Please state your name, your address, and your date of birth. My name is Fred Azar. Fred Azar with Element Energy Solar, 7470 Sound Avenue, Mattituck, New York, 11952. Date of birth is 8-24-61. And how do you spell your last name? A-Z-A-R. How can we help you? So we're here tonight to review and request permission for the variance for the solar array to be constructed in the front yard of 1589. Connick Bay Boulevard. Mr. McVeigh's residence. We've installed a number of years ago, we installed roof mounted solar. And since that installation has been working very well for him, he has added a swimming pool with electric heat. So causing his power usage to increase. So this is a small array. It's a 12 panel system. Situated on the side of the building. And it's a 12 panel system. And it's a 12 panel system. And it's a 12 panel system. And it's a 12 panel system. And it's a 12 panel system. And it's a 12 panel system. And it's a 12 panel system. And it's a 12 panel system. front of his property that has both the very very good screening all the way around from the front you can't see it from the road you won't be able to see it from either name either side neighbor and there's simply no room whatsoever behind the house because it's it gets right into the the conic bay wetlands how long ago were the solar panels put on the house 2016 2015. so you would agree there's been a lot of advances in solar technology correct there is but he did get the the latest and the to to change out what's on his roof to give him that additional would only amount to be between five and seven percent so this is in addition to those panels correct so uh do you have the utility proof of utility bills of what's generated of what's generated what's generated from the house and pool the utility bills for what he's using now correct we do have i don't have them with me but we do have them yes okay and so pseg only allows us to design and install a system that will produce no more than 110 percent of his historical needs so that's within this right i'm very familiar with that and i think that's an excellent point and i think that's an excellent me with that that's why i asked okay i got you um is there any other uh location on the house or closer to the house for these solar panels so we looked uh obviously we looked at the entire property and the front of his house does face north and with the pitch of his roof it just takes it below the minimum solar standards for an installation on that roof he would be happy to do it if it if it would produce because he's he's he's not he doesn't care too much about the uh the look of solar on his roof obviously he's got the entire back of his property covered so did you investigate switching out one or two of the panels on the roof because now the panels have the ability to generate far more yeah and again we did do that and it ended up being about a five and a half percent increase in production that was the net and it just didn't and and what's the ground mount giving you percentage-wise increase so it gives it gives him up to the hundred percent so that he needs what's the nameplate capacity of the ground mount 4.8 kw 4 800 watts yep and what's the what does he currently have on the house what is the current
the other one it's like 28 pounds yeah
i believe so 375.
uh 10.5 10.5 kw if you didn't hear that
10.5 kw this is ! it's just one other question i'm just trying to understand this um this i i think this is the picture of the location right it's right it's mcveigh lane yes correct right and then you got i think one of these here is the greenhouse greenhouse that's right what's the shading over in all of this area i'm just trying to understand how that's actually going to work i see a lot of trees and stuff like that it's just south of that so it's going to be south of of this south of the greenhouse it's in an area which is completely open if i could show this you can show it with that okay this is what you need why don't you hold on till you get up there before you no not you sir okay okay we should be seeing that up there shortly yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah there we go there we go there we go now where is it oh it's this way okay see it's right over to the left side of the road there yeah we colored it orange all right on purpose so he has already done some tree pruning in that area this array faces almost due south which is the best production for this so we're going to go through some of these and see if there's any more Is that a tracking array or just a fixed array? It's fixed. Okay. And what distance is that from the neighbor's yard? It's 14 feet, one-half inch from the property line, which is actually further away than what is in the house and other structure that is further north. It's up here. Yeah, the greenhouse is 10 feet away, which is the legal space. Well, you got Zoning Board of Appeals relief back in July of 26, 2023, for that greenhouse. For the greenhouse, that's correct. Just to make sure, so this is south of what's labeled here as a garage foundation? Correct. It's just a foundation. Mr. McVeigh, you'll need to come up here. You're going to stay. And we're going to have to swear you in. Okay. You want to raise your right hand, please? Francis Patrick McVeigh, Jr., July 13, 1943, 1589, Peconic Bay Boulevard, Laurel, New York. You want to pull that microphone closer? Okay, I'm sorry. So we're going to tell the truth, tell the truth, and then the truth will be heard? I do. Yeah. Okay. What did you have to say? No, I'm just saying that it's south of the greenhouse. I'm just an energy guy. I just like to use as much solar we can in our country. All right. I have. For the structures, they're all solar. Everything's solar. I wish I could have wind on it, but I can't have wind. Right. Now, I'm not familiar with how hard these are going to be. Are they hidden from your neighbors? Totally hidden. I could show you. I designed it that way so the neighbors of my... You can see it right there. You can see it. So totally hidden.
It might be easier to see it this way. So this is... That's the back. That's the north side you're seeing right there. Right. And the west side the same way. The only open area is the south side, which is towards my house. Right. So I have a follow-up question. Yes. So you just stated you have other structures on your property. Other properties. Other properties. Oh, other properties. Yeah. Nothing. I'm a solar person. I believe in solar. I believe in solar. I believe in solar. And could you just... The drawing I got originally does not have the array on it, but I have a rough idea of where it is. What's the size of the array? Yeah, but you can show them the picture. But like, what's... Not the footprint of the base, but what's the size of that array? 4.5 KW is not... 20 by 12, is it?
So it is... It is... 4 times... 6. It's about 25 feet by 12 feet. Okay.
Yeah, it didn't have the dimensions there. It does on this, but they're hard.
Okay. Okay.
It's 19, 5 1⁄4 by 11, 5 1⁄4. By 11? Oh, yeah. Okay. What's the 14? I think it's one in. Oh, the 14 is... 14 is off the property. Those are the distances. 14 is from the property line. Yeah, those are the distances off the property line. I can help answer that. So it's roughly 25 by 12. Okay. I can help answer that. You just have to get sworn in. And is that along the westerly property line? Yes, it is. Yes, it is.
And you see... Is your intention to maintain a vegetative buffer in proximity to the ground-mounted solar along the westerly side? The question was? I'm sorry, ma'am. Is your intention to maintain the vegetative buffer along the westerly side... Yes. ...in proximity to the solar plant... More than... ...shielding the neighbor from view? Totally. It's totally shielding. And... And you'll maintain it that way. But, sir, let her finish. You can't keep interrupting each other. I'm sorry. That's okay. And you would agree to maintain... Yes. ...that vegetative buffer? Yes. Anything else? Anybody else? You wanted to be heard? Just to answer the question about the size. Why don't you get up there? If you want, sure. You too, sir, want to raise your right hand? Swear truth, tell truth. Swear, tell truth, tell truth. Tell the truth, tell the truth. You got it. I do. Would you hand out, please, in a loud, clear voice, please state your name, your address, as well as your date of birth. Michael Lawton, 7470 Sound Avenue, Mattatuck, New York, here with Element Energy, and date of birth, January 4th, 1983. And what did you want to add? Just to be able to answer the question about the size footprint, I can point that out on the plan set for you guys, if you like. That'd be great. Sure, thank you. Thank you.
If you sent... Oh. Is it up? Perfect.
Okay. There we go. There you go. So, overall width is 22 feet 8 inches, and north to south is going to be 7 foot 6 on that north to south piers spacing. Let's see. Is there a cantilever? So, your total is going to be approximately 8 foot north to south footprint. Okay. And what's the elevation, like the maximum elevation? Because I imagine that the northern portion is higher than the southern portion. It is, it is, yeah. That northern portion won't be higher than, no more than 8 foot on that high end. And that is to angle an appropriate southern facing to get the most solar production out of this. Really? Anybody else? Anybody on Zoom? No. Nobody on Zoom? No. All right. Do you have it?
Do that one? I'll do it. Do you want to do it? I'll do it. All right. Mr. Chairman, Vice Chairman, with respect to Appeal No. 2024-009, I move that the appeal of Frank McVeigh, 1589 Peconic Bay Boulevard, Laurel, Suffolk County Tax Map 600-71-2-32, Residence B40 Zoning for Variances and or Relief from Chapter 301-15A1A, where accessory solar structure in Front Yard is not permitted, be granted subject to maintenance of a vegetative buffer along the westerly side of the property, in proximity to ground mount solar to shield adjacent property, in accordance with the applications and sketches with amendments thereto, if any, as filed with the building inspector. I second. I second. All right. Mr. Barnes? Aye. Mr. Lissky? Aye. Aye. And I vote aye. It's granted. You've done this dance before. You know what to do, right? Pardon me? It's granted. You've done this before. You know what happens next, right? What to do next? What's next? You know the paperwork that's involved after this? You've done this before, right? Yeah. Yeah. Good luck. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Take care of yourself. Appreciate it. All right. With respect to the minutes of last board meeting of March 24th, do you want to approve? So moved? March 14th, yes. Second. Second. All right. I approve. Aye. Mr. Barnes, do you approve? Aye. I approve. Aye. And the next meeting is... Good night. The next meeting is April 11th, 2024. I'm going to adjourn until then. So moved? All right. Aye. Second. Good night, Mr. Barnes. Mr. Barnes, you're looking lovely. Good night. April 15th, huh? Thank you so much. It was good seeing everyone.
Bye. Adjourned. Yeah, adjourned.
Bye. Thank you.