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Thank you. Thank you. That has been adjourned. They've asked to have it adjourned to May 23rd. So can I have a second? Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. A motion has been granted, so we'll listen to them on May 23rd. Hi. You want to read the next one? Sure. Thank you. Appeal 2024-007, Marta Campos, 91 Fire Lane, Weeding River. Suffolk County Tax Map Number 600-58-2-3. Residents B-80 or B-80 zoning. Proposed 11-foot by 12-foot gazebo. Applicant requests variances and or relief from Chapter 301-29A1C. Proposed rear accessory setback 5.1 feet. Minimum permitted is 29 feet. And this was adjourned from March 28th for failure to meet posting requirement. Tracy, did you receive the affidavits of posting? No. Is anyone here for this? Is anybody here for this? This is Fire Lane, Weeding River. Yes. Please come up, whoever's going to speak.
Why do you ask me? Why don't you come up and speak? You've got to come up first. Thank you, Ann Marie. So you're going to come up here, you're going to speak into the microphone, and you're going to adjust it so they can hear you.
Okay. Please raise your right hand. I do solemnly swear to tell you. I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help God. If you agree, just say yes. Yes. Thank you very much. Please state your name and address. Martha Campos, 91 Fire Lane, Weeding River, New York. You've got to step closer to the mic. Martha. Martha Campos, 91 Fire Lane, Weeding River, New York, 11792. Okay. Tell us what you'd like to do there, please. Well, I have to say a few things. Oh, okay. So remember I was asking you about the, this is what it is, the certified letters, and then this paper signed, and pictures of the poster. Mm-hmm. Do you have those with you? Picture, do you have the pictures of the paper that was put? I guess what I do want to see. Did you take a picture of the, of the, and did you do the mailings? Yes. Okay. So when we're done, I'll give you my email address. You can email that to me. Okay. But I still need to have these receipts that you did the mailing. We have one receipt. Well, this receipt here is the one that proves that you mailed it out. This is the return one. This I'm not worried about. These small ones. Where did I get those? When you made the letter up and mailed it to me. Okay. So I'm not worried about that. I'm just worried about the paper. Okay. So I'm not worried about the paper. I'm just worried about the paper. Okay. So I'm not worried about the paper. When you made the letter up and mailed it out to the neighbors, you were supposed to to the neighbors you were supposed to get it certified somebody told you to tell them certified so you could get these green receipts
yeah how can they get help yeah so tracy unfortunately we're going to have to adjourn but if they would like to come in tomorrow morning i'll sit down with you and walk you through the process of the affidavit of mailing and how to do certified mail because that's a prerequisite that your neighbors be put on notice so we're going to have to adjourn tonight's hearing do you understand so far what we said okay and in addition when you do come back what would be very helpful for the zoning board of appeals if you take photographs of that gazebo as well do you understand that also yes okay good the whole thing how high it is how sides okay so are either of you available tomorrow morning to come back to town hall or monday or tuesday you tell me
i think monday is better okay yeah come in monday morning my name is ann marie prudente i'm a deputy town attorney when you come in you tell the police officer at the desk you need to come see ann marie i'm on the third floor okay okay okay i can write that down for them thank you That's too much. I don't know. Let's see.
Tracy, do you have their phone number?
You want their phone number? Yeah, they both. Do you want their phone number? Yeah. Yeah, Marie, you think two weeks is enough? Let me just show her. I would do three. I'd do up to four. Yeah. Four, good. You have it? So it'd be the first week in May, I guess. No, it has to be September. This is my name. If you get their telephone number, we have, who would it be?
I'm not saying. The 24th of May. No, it's a day. Okay. The 24th of May. The 2nd of Thursday. We need to come back here. It's like the 9th. Different day? 9th, good. No. No? I'll give you a new date. I'll walk you through the process. Oh, okay. All right. Thank you. Tracy, is the next date the 9th? 9th. May 9th? Can we go the second week of May? So that would be the 17th, I guess. No, 23rd, I think. No, I'll tell you one second. Second week, the May 23rd. What week was six weeks? May 23rd would be the second meeting of May. That'll be, that'll be six weeks. 23rd, she said. Okay. I don't have anything scheduled for the next two meetings yet. All right, good. But I do have something scheduled for May 23rd. All right. So, do you understand? understand what has been said and you're meeting with Ann Marie she'll be a great help she's a wonderful person don't be afraid Mr. Chairman respectfully I make a motion to adjourn this matter until May 23rd second all right all in favor aye Mr. Barnes I can't even see you oh there they they got you in a real small corner I want you on a big screen oh there you are thank you all right so we'll see you on the 20th well here at the 23rd but you're gonna see Ann Marie on Monday all right have a great weekend thank you yes Monday is in the morning to Ann Marie and then May 23rd will be the same time 6 p.m. Ann Marie maybe you should ask for an interpreter too from code enforcement yeah I'm gonna work with the town clerk's office she's okay they have an interpreter there or Leroy I could practice over the weekend okay
okay appeal 2024-010 Maureen and Paul Sweeto 1579 Connick Bay Boulevard Laurel Suffolk County tax map number 600-71-2-28 residence B40 RB40 zoning proposed detached garage applicant request variances are released from chapter 301-15A1 of the bill. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.
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250 main road, Mattituck for the applicants of Maureen and Paul Sweetow. As Tracy mentioned, we are here this evening seeking two variances to permit the construction of an accessory garage in the front yard of this waterfront parcel, which is located on Peconic Ray Boulevard in Laurel. It is a 46,000 square foot parcel in the RB40 zoning district. It's a flag lot. It's currently improved with a single family dwelling with an attached garage, and the applicants are seeking relief to demolish and reconstruct the house. The house construction is underway separately. There's a separate permit application for the garage just because there was no variance. Relief required for the balance of the construction. So, as mentioned, this is pretty straightforward. You know, waterfront parcel, there's really no place to put the garage other than in the front yard. The driveway takes access off the boulevard, and the garage is going to be placed simply at the end of the driveway where it has to be. So, I can briefly address. Oh, and they are seeking relief from the 10-foot requirement so that it can be, there can be only five feet between the house and the garage. It will be connected by a small breezeway, and that design was really to break up the mass of the house, you know, to attach. It just creates this really massive structure, and this house does not have a basement. And by breaking it up, it allows access to the mechanical area of the house from the outside, which is critical. So, just to briefly address the variance criteria under 267, this is a proposed construction of a garage with conditioned space on the second level in the front yard. The entire structure, the footprint of it is only 400 square feet. We would submit that there. The granting of variance relief here would not result in any undesirable change in the character of the neighborhood or be any detriment to nearby properties. My clients have been in touch with their neighbors. There was a neighbor that had questions about the application, and they met with them and answered those questions to their satisfaction. The surrounding properties are all improved with residences and detached garages. We do not believe that the five-foot. Relief, you know, putting a five or 10 feet would have any discernible impact on the neighbors. Obviously, having accessory garages in the front yard of waterfront homes is not an uncommon thing in the town as well. But unfortunately, we cannot proceed without the variance relief because of the code requirements for rear yard and 10 feet. As to substantiality. Well, it may. Seem mathematically substantial to request 50% relief from a code requirement. We don't believe that it's it's practically substantial here. There is no other feasible location to place the garage other than the front yard. And again, the the five-foot differential actually will allow for a narrow breezeway. It'll it'll reduce actually the intrusion into the front yard and break up, as I suggested, the two volumes of of the. Strip. Structures to effectively reduce the mass of of the of the house in the garage. We would submit that there are no perceivable adverse impacts if variance relief is granted here. Obviously, it's a type two action under secret presumptively. There is no adverse impact. The applicants are proposing to install an I. A septic system on the property in conjunction with the construction. So we would also submit that there's. A net environmental benefit here with respect to this whole project. So if there are any questions the board has, I'm happy to address them, but we would submit that the variance criteria have been satisfied here, and we respectfully request that the relief be granted.
Leroy, you got a question. Not really, because the way he explained the breezeway and there's access to the. The. Mechanicals. I really don't have a problem with it. I mean, the main variance is having a garage in the front yard. That's the real issue. But we'll see what other people have to say. Well, yeah. You have anything. Anybody here that want to be heard on this. So. No. I don't have any questions. There's one person on Zoom, but I don't know if there. He's going to speak. Yeah. I'm just Joseph. The. I have the property to the north. Excuse me. Hold on, sir. What is your name? Have you been sworn in? No, I haven't. All right. Just raise your right hand, please. I do. So I'm going to swear to tell the truth. The whole truth. But not the whole truth. So help you God. I do. Thank you. State your name and address. Joseph. The initial. I'm Joseph. The initial. I have the property to the north. Excuse me. Hold on, sir. What is your name? Have you been sworn in? No, I haven't. All right. So I'm Joseph. The initial. 1575. The kind of payable. Laura on New York. Okay. Go right ahead. So I'm looking at the at the plans and I'm wondering why the. The 10 foot. Distance cannot be attained because there appears to be enough property. To the right of way. So I don't, I don't see what the five. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. The. 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I just think that the design was carefully thought out to allow for this access to create a transition space between the garage and the house, access to mechanicals. It just doesn't seem to be any need for the 10 feet, and it would just really push the house back out even further. So, you know, that's why it was designed that way. So it's for aesthetics. I don't like it to me. He stated it's for aesthetics. Oh, okay. So can I ask you? You stated that there was a house existing prior to this proposed structure. Oh, yeah, there's a house there, yeah. And did it have an attached garage, that structure? It does have an attached garage. It's just in a different, yes. Okay. Much smaller house. What? It's a much smaller house. I was going to ask that. Very small. Yes. And all of the proposed construction is otherwise conforming to all setback requirements here. There's obviously no other variance relief required, so it's completely conforming. Well, the frontage on the prior house was east-west, and now the house is north-south. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. You can say. Excuse me, sir. Are you on the same parcel of property that this house is on? Are you in the front of this house? I'm on the front, the north side. North side. Okay. So you don't actually go by this house. He's down towards the bay, right? Right. He gains access to the left of my property. Right. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. So, but the whole thing here is that there's an issue of the five feet. But the thing is, what I'm wondering in addition to that, I'm not too concerned about the five feet, but will there be enough room for him to bring his car in to the garage and not... Will he be on the right? Will he be coming in on the right of way? Is that your main concern? Is that your main concern? Well, will there be a right of way? Will they retain the right of way there? Or does that become... There's no change contemplated to the access. It's a flag lot. So they come in over the flag to get to their lot, and that will be maintained. I suspect it will be improved, but it's not going to be altered or reconfirmed in any way. That's their property on the flag. So the flag leading to your client's property, is that owned by your client? Yes. It's not a shared driveway access. It's a flag. It's a flag. Yes. Yes. So the right of way that the gentleman's speaking about is literally your client's property. Yes. Nobody else shares that means of ingress and ingress. Not that I'm aware of, no. Okay. All right. I have no problem. Yeah. Leroy, you got any problems? Are you good? I'm good. Thank you, sir. Leroy? I'm good. All right. Who's got it? John? I think you are. And then do you want to do this before or after the reading? I'd like to do it before. Okay. Insert it. Right. So, counsel, if you agree with me, there's nobody else out there with any comments or questions? No. Apparently not. So typically the standard for the Zoning Board of Appeals, if they were going to approve this, this application, they would approve it consistent with the DEC permit, the March 18th, 2024 Conservation Advisory Council approval with conditions. You and I have discussed tonight that it'll be your intention to go back before the Conservation Advisory Council because it's your desire. Okay. So if you agree with me, number two. Agreed? Well, we did discuss that. It's not my desire to go back before the CAC. I guess if you tell me that we would have to. I think what we had proposed was some language, some changes to the form covenant that the CAC has used. And in discussing that with Greg Bergman, he didn't seem to think that would be an issue. I understand where you're coming from with respect to the second paragraph. So I think we agreed that the first one would be just a modification of the non-disturbance buffer for future wetlands restoration. But both of those clauses are subject to future review approval. The intent of it is simply to not have a blanket restriction that would foreclose any further application for any type of structure. It's not to suggest that by the end of the year, we're going to have a blanket restriction. By including that in the covenant, that my clients are somehow authorized to build a structure. They understand that they would have to go back and have approvals and potentially go back before the CAC. But it was simply carving out that opportunity to go, as opposed to having a covenant that would say you can never, ever do anything. Which, by our read of the covenant, without any modifications, it could be interpreted that way. And we just wanted to get out ahead of that. There's nothing contemplated right now. It's just making sure we don't, because as you well know, once that's filed, that's it. There's no undoing that. I understand the language of paragraph two of the CAC determination. I guess we can continue the conversation as to whether or not we need to go back to the CAC or whether that can be handled some other way. So, Mr. Chairman, you can read and I ask the Zoning Board of Appeals then before we conclude the determination, if I can just verbally add four conditions related to, in part, this back and forth between counsel and I. Okay. So you want to just read the way it is or what? I just want to state four conditions. Oh, with the conditions? Yeah. Do you want to read it? Sure. John, pass that down. If we get a volunteer, we take advantage of her.
Maureen and Paul, I apologize. So, how? 1579 Peconic Bay Boulevard, Laurel, Suffolk County Tax Map Number 600-71-2-28 Residence B-40 Zoning for Variants and or Relief from Chapter 301-15 A1A where proposed garage and front yard where accessory structure is not permitted and proposed five foot step back to residence where minimum 10 feet is required be approved subject to Suffolk County Health Department approvals, compliance with DEC permits. Required and issued related to the construction project. Compliance with the Conservation Advisory Council approval dated March 18th, 2024. Including the non-disturbing easement or such other determination as may by the CAC as may amend. The March 8th, 2024 determination. And in accordance with the application sketches with amendments there to, if any, as filed with the building inspector. May I hear? So moved. Okay, Mr. Second. Aye. Mr. Aye. Portia. Thank you. Portia. Mr. Barnes. Aye. And I vote aye. So the variance has been granted. Thank you very much. I think you said that you're going to follow along. I think you said that you're going to follow along. You're going to follow all the permits and all that. Of course. So that's good. You won't have any problems. I don't believe we have an alternative. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Have a good evening. I'm sorry. That's okay. Do you have any minutes or any money to approve? Yes. March 14th and I believe March 28th was sent over to you gentlemen to read. Okay. Make a motion we approve those minutes. All in favor? Aye. Mr. Barnes? Aye. Aye. Make a motion. And the next meeting date should be April 25th, but we do not have a motion to approve those minutes. All in favor? Aye. Mr. Barnes? Aye. Aye. Mr. Barnes? Aye. Mr. Moderator? Aye. Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Moderator? Thank you.