September 26, 2024 — Zoning Board of Appeals

Zoning Board Meeting

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0:00Thank you.
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5:01to 60 foot be granted in accordance with the applications and sketches with
5:04amendments there too if any is filed with the building inspector second second
5:13okay we have a second mr. Porsche Oh a second no vote oh I I'm sorry okay mr.
5:21Zawieski aye mr. Barnes aye mr. Godzilla all right and I vote aye so your
5:26variance has been granted good luck thank you good night take care
5:39how do you wanna yeah all right so next up we're going to take appeal 2024 dash
5:45zero to five for Kelly development Corp 32 Pine Avenue Aqabaug Suffolk County
5:50tax up number six hundred dash 113 dash 2-92 residents be 40 zoning
5:56you
5:56for the demolition and reconstruction of a single-family dwelling applicant
6:01requests variances and or relief from Town Code chapter 301 dash 17 where
6:06proposed side yard setback is 5 feet minimum required is 25 feet and where
6:10proposed combined side yard setback is 19.5 feet minimum required is 55 feet
6:16good evening mr. chairman attorney I am yes good evening mr. chairman members of
6:21the board Larry Davis 175 Oak Street Patchogue New York for the applicant I
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6:56to us to my clients property and they all hold similar type setbacks the many
7:03of the lots within the community are very narrow to begin with and we're
7:07asking that the board approve this application as there's no other way that
7:10my client can even come close to meeting the code as the lot is only 50 feet wide
7:15and the code requires a total side yard of 55 feet so it's virtually impossible
7:20it actually is impossible so the board has questions I'll be happy to answer
7:25have you gone before the CAC not yet we're waiting taking this step first and
7:32then we'll be going there after okay and Suffolk County Health Department we are
7:37going to probably have to do an IA system because it because it's a rebuild
7:41so because it's more than 50% bill they are going to require us to put an IA
7:45system in and update that right the answer is yes
7:50anyone else any questions you would affect you need
7:55you need to go to the next slide
7:55the DEC approval also as well as FEMA because of the flood zone that's correct yes
8:00anybody else anyone in the audience that wants to say anything just a quick
8:06question for you certainly I'm trying to read the plan my eyes aren't that great
8:11is the house pretty much the same width or slightly narrower than the existing
8:16house footprint that's there it's narrower and longer right a little bit
8:22yes so you improve the side setbacks from what the DEC approved
8:25but they were okay anybody else anyone else no zoom all right
8:32Mr. Chairman with regard to appeal number 2024-025 I moved at the appeal of Kelly Devcorp 32 Pine Avenue Aqua Barg.
8:43CTM number 600-113-2-92 residents B40 or B40 zoning for variance is end or relief from town code chapter 304.
8:54Mr. Chairman with regard to appeal number 24-01-17 we proposed side yard setback is 5 feet minimum required is 25 feet and we proposed combined side yet the side yard setback is 19.5 feet minimum required is 5 5 feet be granted subject to the following conditions New York State DEC approval town of River at CAC approval SCDHS approval as well as FEMA flood compliance and this is in accordance with the act of approval.
9:24so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so
9:54to go back to the first appeal listed on the agenda tonight,
9:58appeal number 2024-024, Michael Gangler,
10:02159 Sunset Boulevard, Wading River,
10:05Suffolk County Tax Act number 600-30-2-34.3,
10:10residents B80 zoning for a proposed
10:1312 by 24 accessory structure.
10:16Applicant requests variances and or relief
10:18from Town Code Chapter 301-29A1B,
10:23where proposed side yard abutting side street setback
10:25is 32 feet, six inches, and the minimum required is 60 feet,
10:30and where proposed accessory setback to dwelling
10:32is four feet, and the minimum required is 10 feet.
10:37Please raise your right hand.
10:39So I'm going to swear to tell the truth,
10:40to hold truth and not to put the truth.
10:42I do.
10:43I do.
10:44Do state your name and address.
10:45Michael Gangler, 159 Sunset Boulevard in Wading River.
10:51All right.
10:52Is that your address?
10:54So we are in the midst of a four month house renovation
11:00in which this past year we had a severe flood
11:03that required us to reevaluate our living situation.
11:07And rather than move, we wanted to stay in the district.
11:11So we took on the challenge of doing this renovation.
11:15The driveway specifically on angle provides a slope
11:18that brought significant amount of water into our basement.
11:21And rather than add dry wells and catch basins,
11:26we removed our driveway, or trying to move our driveway
11:31out of there.
11:32And we have a new driveway in the front of our house
11:34to defeat that.
11:36As a result of our renovation, we've
11:39converted our existing two car garage to extended living
11:42space.
11:44And as a result, our driveway ends at the end of our house.
11:48So we've lost all storage.
11:51And we've lost all the equipment and all the things associated
11:56with four kids.
11:57So we needed storage.
11:59And yeah, so that's kind of changed the landscape
12:03of our property amidst this renovation.
12:07How long you lived there?
12:08This will be 16 years.
12:09Is that the first time it flooded?
12:11It would come and go.
12:13We tried everything from chimney to window wells.
12:20And we've come to find out.
12:21The culprit was the egress window seal had gone.
12:25So it was filling up the egress window
12:27and coming in through the house.
12:28So it kind of, like I said, forced
12:30us to reevaluate our driveway.
12:32And we did.
12:33We moved it to the front.
12:37So explain to me the garage that's going to be relocated.
12:45When was that built?
12:47The original one on the print, I believe, was 1985.
12:51That's a slide.
12:51I didn't have a clear head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head
13:21final resting place. And the structure that's 14 by 22? That was pre-existing, yes.
13:27So it has a letter pre-existing? Yes it does. And I see that you're
13:34putting windows in it? There were windows in that one when we
13:38purchased the home. What are we gonna use that for? That one is, it's kind of, it's
13:45been a kid's playroom in a gym area as of late. It does store things. My wife
13:54works in there from time to time when we need to get out of the house. So. So what
13:59does the letter pre-existing use say? What use that is. Because it just says frame
14:05built. I'm just trying to figure out. Like I said, it was there when we moved in but it was next to
14:11the pre-existing driveway. So they used it for. And it was finished in
14:15sight or was it finished? When we had it. It wasn't finished. Okay. So you
14:19finished the inside. We did. So in this permit. Which I haven't seen the permit.
14:24Did they ask you to finish it? Or did you ask them to finish it? You did it already
14:31and it's got to be approved. We had done that already. It's. It's. It's already on
14:36there. Yes. So the building point. I'm gonna try to legalize it. For you. Legalize it as.
14:41As. So you're utilizing it as habitable space.
14:45It has a certificate of occupancy for a garage, not a habitable space.
14:52So the conversion isn't a legal conversion.
15:00And that's a problem.
15:02Okay.
15:03I'm not sure what's in the permit application.
15:07What I'm suggesting is that you amend your application and include to have that interior
15:14space recognized.
15:15And if it needs electrical outlets that need to be inspected, that kind of thing needs
15:22to be done.
15:23Okay.
15:24Let's be safe about it.
15:25Sure.
15:26Absolutely.
15:27Because a lot of people, homeowners, do work without permits.
15:30And sometimes they get in trouble and they burn buildings down.
15:33Those things happen.
15:35I'm in the midst of that renovation right now.
15:39So we're going to make sure that you get that done, right?
15:43Absolutely.
15:44And you need to be smart to make an amendment to your building permit so that you don't
15:48have difficulty getting your CO later for the other alterations.
15:51Okay.
15:52And we'll ask our help here, our administrative assistant, to make sure the building permit
15:59knows about it.
16:00Sure.
16:01That you'll be coming.
16:02Absolutely.
16:03Okay?
16:04So you're going to come back.
16:05You're going to amend your application.
16:06You'll repost with the amended application.
16:07And then go back to the building permit.
16:08Okay.
16:09So you're going to come back.
16:10You're going to amend your application.
16:11You'll repost with the amended application.
16:12And then go back.
16:13Why does he have to repost it?
16:16It's an addition to.
16:17Yeah, but he's got to advise the neighbors.
16:22It's pre-existing structure.
16:24So why would he have to repost it?
16:26Well, he's converting it to habitable space.
16:28It was converted to habitable space.
16:30Not legally.
16:31But you don't need to repost it.
16:33Why would you need to repost it?
16:35Well, I'll...
16:37Maybe look at it a little harder.
16:38I will.
16:39Thank you.
16:40I don't think it needs to be reposted.
16:41But anyway, I'm going to come back.
16:42But anyway, I don't have any other questions.
16:45Mr. Chairman, is there anybody else you think that wants to ask questions?
16:49I don't know.
16:50I don't think there's anyone out there.
16:52And we have no Zoom, right, Heather?
16:53No one on Zoom.
16:55So we're looking for him to come back.
16:56We're going to adjourn you for two weeks.
16:58Can you get this done in two weeks?
17:00For the pre-existing or for the garage we have on the property?
17:05Whatever we need to have done, right?
17:07Yeah.
17:08It'll include both.
17:09Okay.
17:10Because the one that was put on the property was for storage.
17:11Okay.
17:12And that's where we are with holding everything for our house.
17:18So it's already on the property.
17:20It just needs to be moved.
17:21Legalized.
17:22But you have a permit to do that.
17:23Yes.
17:24I have a denial letter.
17:25That's not a .
17:26I've gone through...
17:27Yes.
17:28All that has been done.
17:29But you don't have a permit for the interior space on the building next to it.
17:33It's just a...
17:34Yeah.
17:35It's a structure.
17:36We just need you to legalize that.
17:37Sure.
17:38So you can get in there and get the permit application in.
17:41We'll continue on with this.
17:42In two weeks.
17:44Okay.
17:45Is that fair enough?
17:46So I need to amend...
17:48You have to go in and amend your application.
17:52I do not believe you have to repost it, but I'm going to leave that up to legal counsel
17:55and the building department.
17:56Okay.
17:57You will need to update the date on your sign.
18:01So if the signs are still in good condition, you could just cross off the date and put
18:05the next date, which is October 10th.
18:08Should you need new signs, I can provide them.
18:10I think with the rain it was...
18:12Okay.
18:13... barely hanging on.
18:14So I can prep new signs for you.
18:15That's fine.
18:16So if you have any questions, you can either, you know, tomorrow or Monday, whatever day
18:25you choose, you can either go to planning or you can come up to legal and we'll walk
18:30you through it.
18:31Because I could tell you're perhaps not sure, but we'll walk you through it.
18:38I know you will.
18:39Yes, we will.
18:40They're very friendly.
18:41They're very friendly.
18:42They just want you to make a little application amendment.
18:45That's all.
18:46What's the next day?
18:47So...
18:48October 10th.
18:49Mr. Chairman, I move that we adjourn the appeal 24-24 to October 10th.
18:53So October 10th?
18:54Second.
18:55Thank you, sir.
18:56All right.
18:57Mr. Prashetta?
18:58Aye.
18:59Mr. Zawieski?
19:00Aye.
19:01Mr. Barnes?
19:02Aye.
19:03Mr. Godzilla?
19:04Aye.
19:05And I vote aye.
19:06So you're all set?
19:07Just get that work done and we'll see you in two weeks.
19:09Thank you, Michael.
19:10Thank you.
19:11Thank you.
19:12Thank you, Michael.
19:13Thanks for coming in.
19:14Okay.
19:15The last appeal we have is appeal number 2024-026, Bernquist, 55 Jacobs Place, Aquabog, Suffolk
19:27County Tax Note Number 600-86-4-8, Residence B40 Zoning, Proposed Addition, Deck, Aboveground
19:36Pool, and Existing Shed.
19:38Applicant Requests, Variances, and or Relief from Town Code Chapter 301 of the
19:42Act, 301-15A1A, where accessory structures, pool, and deck, in front yard not permitted.
19:49301-15A1D, where shed in front yard not permitted in the existing 2.4 foot from property line.
19:59And 301-17, where proposed side setback is 7.4 feet, the minimum required is 25 feet,
20:07where proposed rear setback is 16.4 feet, and minimum required is 60 feet.
20:10All right.
20:11Thank you.
20:12And where proposed impervious surface coverage is 39 percent and maximum permitted is 15
20:18percent.
20:19Please raise your right hand.
20:20You saw me swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so I'll
20:26help you God.
20:27Yes.
20:28Please state your name and address.
20:29Sure.
20:30Tracy Rivera.
20:31Tracy's permit, 363 Terryville Road, Terryville, New York, 11776.
20:34Okay.
20:35Is that your case?
20:36Sure.
20:37Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of the Board.
20:38I'm here right now to speak with the Board of Trustees.
20:39I'm here to speak with the Board of Trustees.
20:40I'm here representing Maya Fenquest at 55 Jacobs Place.
20:46Just want to give you a little history on the property.
20:48She purchased the property back in 2017 with the intentions on expanding it, not realizing
20:55the permits that were going to be needed.
20:57As many homeowners that purchase properties, they don't realize what they're going to get
21:00entailed with.
21:02Maya had reached out to me probably about a year and a half ago to discuss the property,
21:07and like every client I take on, we do a full review.
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21:404730-01946 backslash 00001 and that grant is for exactly the survey that you're seeing we
21:51also went before the conservatory board had a couple meetings back and forth with them they
21:57had also approved the application that is before you today so what we're looking to do is do a one
22:03story addition that is let me open up the survey so I can look at the exact size we are looking
22:10to do a 15 by approximately 50 foot wide addition once one story addition it's just going to be an
22:24expansion of living space then only as they've outgrown the house and that was always their
22:29intentions on it we're going to be looking to hold about a seven and a half foot side yard setback
22:35which I had already advised the
22:40owner that when this is to take place that we will have it staked out by a surveyor to make sure that
22:45we're not coming back before the board in case the um the addition is made a little larger um
22:53as you are aware we already had an application that was before you this evening with Larry Davis
22:59that was in the community right in this area requesting a five foot side yard where we needed
23:05to keep 25. I'd like to make that part of the record because uh
23:10it's very similar to what we're doing today except we're not five foot we're seven and a half foot you
23:15already granted a five foot um I have a footprint a little floor plan that was drawn out that I'd
23:22like to give up to the board and I'd like to rattle off just give me one second because I
23:26don't want to make multiple trips I've also um went around the surrounding areas and we have 114
23:33Meeting House Creek Road which has a small side yard 109 96 52
23:40102 38 37 73 lots of ink lots of pictures right 60 pine 37 pine I believe the application with
23:52Larry Davis and Kelly development was on pine we and 55 and 80 pine so these are all pictures I
23:58took in the area here's a floor plan to show you that it's just going to be a den and I have a
24:04picture of the front of the house and an area on where the condition is going to be it didn't
24:10like I said I did do my round Robin um we're also before you in case you need an aerial and have an
24:15aerial as well the other thing we'll be for the board for today is we are looking to propose a
24:21front deck of the front of the house as you can see this house is not um your average house uh
24:29and with the front deck we're looking to put an above ground pool so uh we have that and
24:34we're looking to legalize a little shed this in the area the DEC who's usually very strict
24:40with uh a lot coverage and worried about the area and negative impacts environmentally have already
24:46approved this exactly as it is before you um I don't feel that it's a negative impact as we have
24:52DEC approval conservatory approval there is no increase in bedrooms it's just the den to increase
24:58living space for her family any questions oh anybody on the border I'm just gonna uh correct
25:07the reference sure when you say the
25:10conservatory you were referring to the um go ahead conservation conservation advisor too many
25:18building departments too many boards that go before sorry yeah that's quite exactly thank you
25:23I've been doing this for like I don't know I'm aging myself out right now I've been doing this
25:31over 30 years so yeah so any questions you may have no if I I just want to put on the record
25:37because you mentioned it with respect to Kelly development core yeah
25:40to me there's a slight difference there because we went from two foot to five foot it was an existing
25:45structure two foot off okay it wasn't a similar Grant to that that's really just for the record
25:49okay that's fine but yeah even though it was okay so have any of the neighbors seen the project um
25:58actually there's a neighbor that's here that's in support of the application what a surprise yes we
26:04brought a neighbor that's in support of it and everyone that there were only four people we had
26:08to notify there's not a lot of people
26:10in the area this is called more vegetated it's not that little uh does anybody want to speak against
26:17this or against it or for it I'm like we need to go outside if you're against you want to speak for
26:24it come on up Rick I'd be happy to speak for it you mean Richard no it is don't get about that
26:32don't get too busy don't get too windy hey I mean uh raise that right hand you sound as well to tell
26:40me yes please state your name and address my name is Richard Nemchik I live at 65 Jacob's Place right
26:46next door sweet so you'll be using the pool I take it I would hope so but uh you know the neighborhood
26:54is a slightly different than what you talk about at Pine everybody is closer on that street this
27:02doesn't affect the proximity to other houses I'm their exact neighbor I'm the only one that can see
27:06their house from my house I have no problem with this
27:10I believe this will be visible by any other house either except for when driving by for the pool but
27:16there's nobody in the neighborhood that opposes this I don't oppose it it's going up against
27:20their the prop of the house extension is going to be up against vegetation that is a triangle
27:28of about 50 foot by 50 foot maybe and it can never be built upon so it's not going to be
27:33infringing on any other house or a person it's going to be vacant land there it's just that can't
27:39be built upon
27:40so anyway I'm before it and nobody else showed up so I'm sure they're for it
27:45thank you thank you questions you're a good neighbor try to be they're good neighbors
27:51thank you all right there's no Zoom so so who's that's breeding I submitted an aerial view too
27:58that that depicts exactly what he's talking about shows you how ethically vegetated it is in the
28:03the land that it does affect that's not going to be built we saw the vegetation I know you did
28:10one thing we didn't go there at night I know right but never found the house
28:15but we're just kidding it's pretty house I like it who's got it I got it John Mr Chairman with
28:24respect to appeal number 2024-026 I moved at the appeal of Maha frontquist 55 Jacobs Place aquabog
28:35STM number 600-86-4-8
28:40residents b-40 rb40 zoning for variances and a relief from the town code chapter 301-15a1a where
28:50accessory structures pool and deck in the front yard not permitted 301-15a1d where shed and front
28:58yard not permitted existing is 2.4 feet from the property line and 301-17 where proposed side set
29:06back is 7.4 feet and the minimum required
29:0925.4.
28:48[transcription gap]
29:10feet, where proposed real setback is 16.4 feet
29:14and minimum required is 60 feet, and where proposed impervious
29:18surface coverage is 39% and maximum permitted is 15%,
29:22be granted in accordance with the applications and sketches
29:25with amendments thereto, if any, as filed with the building inspector.
29:30I second. I vote. Mr. Portia. Aye. Mr. Zawieski.
29:34Aye. Mr. Barnes. Aye. Mr. Gazillo.
29:37Aye. And I vote aye. So you're very... Thank you. Sorry if I gave you
29:41too much paperwork. I would rather be overprepared than under. Thank you very much.
29:45Good job.
29:46All right. Do we have any minutes to approve? Yes.
29:55The minutes from September 12, 2024. Do I have a second?
29:59Aye. I second. All in favor? Aye.
30:02And what else?
30:06Next meeting is
30:07October 10, 2024. October. So we need a motion to be adjourned, right?
30:12So moved. Second. All in favor? Aye.
30:16October 10? Mm-hmm.
30:20Thank you. Thank you.
30:37Second. Second. Second.
30:46Second. Second. Second.

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Thank you. [transcription gap] to 60 foot be granted in accordance with the applications and sketches with amendments there too if any is filed with the building inspector second second okay we have a second mr. Porsche Oh a second no vote oh I I'm sorry okay mr. Zawieski aye mr. Barnes aye mr. Godzilla all right and I vote aye so your variance has been granted good luck thank you good night take care

how do you wanna yeah all right so next up we're going to take appeal 2024 dash zero to five for Kelly development Corp 32 Pine Avenue Aqabaug Suffolk County tax up number six hundred dash 113 dash 2-92 residents be 40 zoning you for the demolition and reconstruction of a single-family dwelling applicant requests variances and or relief from Town Code chapter 301 dash 17 where proposed side yard setback is 5 feet minimum required is 25 feet and where proposed combined side yard setback is 19.5 feet minimum required is 55 feet good evening mr. chairman attorney I am yes good evening mr. chairman members of the board Larry Davis 175 Oak Street Patchogue New York for the applicant I head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head head to us to my clients property and they all hold similar type setbacks the many of the lots within the community are very narrow to begin with and we're asking that the board approve this application as there's no other way that my client can even come close to meeting the code as the lot is only 50 feet wide and the code requires a total side yard of 55 feet so it's virtually impossible it actually is impossible so the board has questions I'll be happy to answer have you gone before the CAC not yet we're waiting taking this step first and then we'll be going there after okay and Suffolk County Health Department we are going to probably have to do an IA system because it because it's a rebuild so because it's more than 50% bill they are going to require us to put an IA system in and update that right the answer is yes anyone else any questions you would affect you need you need to go to the next slide the DEC approval also as well as FEMA because of the flood zone that's correct yes anybody else anyone in the audience that wants to say anything just a quick question for you certainly I'm trying to read the plan my eyes aren't that great is the house pretty much the same width or slightly narrower than the existing house footprint that's there it's narrower and longer right a little bit yes so you improve the side setbacks from what the DEC approved but they were okay anybody else anyone else no zoom all right Mr. Chairman with regard to appeal number 2024-025 I moved at the appeal of Kelly Devcorp 32 Pine Avenue Aqua Barg. CTM number 600-113-2-92 residents B40 or B40 zoning for variance is end or relief from town code chapter 304. Mr. Chairman with regard to appeal number 24-01-17 we proposed side yard setback is 5 feet minimum required is 25 feet and we proposed combined side yet the side yard setback is 19.5 feet minimum required is 5 5 feet be granted subject to the following conditions New York State DEC approval town of River at CAC approval SCDHS approval as well as FEMA flood compliance and this is in accordance with the act of approval. so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so to go back to the first appeal listed on the agenda tonight, appeal number 2024-024, Michael Gangler, 159 Sunset Boulevard, Wading River, Suffolk County Tax Act number 600-30-2-34.3, residents B80 zoning for a proposed 12 by 24 accessory structure. Applicant requests variances and or relief from Town Code Chapter 301-29A1B, where proposed side yard abutting side street setback is 32 feet, six inches, and the minimum required is 60 feet, and where proposed accessory setback to dwelling is four feet, and the minimum required is 10 feet. Please raise your right hand. So I'm going to swear to tell the truth, to hold truth and not to put the truth. I do. I do. Do state your name and address. Michael Gangler, 159 Sunset Boulevard in Wading River. All right. Is that your address? So we are in the midst of a four month house renovation in which this past year we had a severe flood that required us to reevaluate our living situation. And rather than move, we wanted to stay in the district. So we took on the challenge of doing this renovation. The driveway specifically on angle provides a slope that brought significant amount of water into our basement. And rather than add dry wells and catch basins, we removed our driveway, or trying to move our driveway out of there. And we have a new driveway in the front of our house to defeat that. As a result of our renovation, we've converted our existing two car garage to extended living space. And as a result, our driveway ends at the end of our house. So we've lost all storage. And we've lost all the equipment and all the things associated with four kids. So we needed storage. And yeah, so that's kind of changed the landscape of our property amidst this renovation. How long you lived there? This will be 16 years. Is that the first time it flooded? It would come and go. We tried everything from chimney to window wells. And we've come to find out. The culprit was the egress window seal had gone. So it was filling up the egress window and coming in through the house. So it kind of, like I said, forced us to reevaluate our driveway. And we did. We moved it to the front.

So explain to me the garage that's going to be relocated. When was that built? The original one on the print, I believe, was 1985. That's a slide. 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And the structure that's 14 by 22? That was pre-existing, yes. So it has a letter pre-existing? Yes it does. And I see that you're putting windows in it? There were windows in that one when we purchased the home. What are we gonna use that for? That one is, it's kind of, it's been a kid's playroom in a gym area as of late. It does store things. My wife works in there from time to time when we need to get out of the house. So. So what does the letter pre-existing use say? What use that is. Because it just says frame built. I'm just trying to figure out. Like I said, it was there when we moved in but it was next to the pre-existing driveway. So they used it for. And it was finished in sight or was it finished? When we had it. It wasn't finished. Okay. So you finished the inside. We did. So in this permit. Which I haven't seen the permit. Did they ask you to finish it? Or did you ask them to finish it? You did it already and it's got to be approved. We had done that already. It's. It's. It's already on there. Yes. So the building point. I'm gonna try to legalize it. For you. Legalize it as. As. So you're utilizing it as habitable space. It has a certificate of occupancy for a garage, not a habitable space. So the conversion isn't a legal conversion. And that's a problem. Okay. I'm not sure what's in the permit application. What I'm suggesting is that you amend your application and include to have that interior space recognized. And if it needs electrical outlets that need to be inspected, that kind of thing needs to be done. Okay. Let's be safe about it. Sure. Absolutely. Because a lot of people, homeowners, do work without permits. And sometimes they get in trouble and they burn buildings down. Those things happen. No. I'm in the midst of that renovation right now. So we're going to make sure that you get that done, right? Absolutely. And you need to be smart to make an amendment to your building permit so that you don't have difficulty getting your CO later for the other alterations. Okay. And we'll ask our help here, our administrative assistant, to make sure the building permit knows about it. Sure. That you'll be coming. Absolutely. Okay? So you're going to come back. You're going to amend your application. You'll repost with the amended application. And then go back to the building permit. Okay. So you're going to come back. You're going to amend your application. You'll repost with the amended application. And then go back. Why does he have to repost it? It's an addition to. Yeah, but he's got to advise the neighbors. It's pre-existing structure. So why would he have to repost it? Well, he's converting it to habitable space. It was converted to habitable space. Not legally. But you don't need to repost it. Why would you need to repost it? Well, I'll... Maybe look at it a little harder. I will. Thank you. I don't think it needs to be reposted. But anyway, I'm going to come back. But anyway, I don't have any other questions. Mr. Chairman, is there anybody else you think that wants to ask questions? I don't know. I don't think there's anyone out there. And we have no Zoom, right, Heather? No one on Zoom. So we're looking for him to come back. We're going to adjourn you for two weeks. Can you get this done in two weeks? For the pre-existing or for the garage we have on the property? Whatever we need to have done, right? Yeah. It'll include both. Okay. Because the one that was put on the property was for storage. Okay. And that's where we are with holding everything for our house. So it's already on the property. It just needs to be moved. Legalized. But you have a permit to do that. Yes. I have a denial letter. That's not a . I've gone through... Yes. All that has been done. But you don't have a permit for the interior space on the building next to it. It's just a... Yeah. It's a structure. We just need you to legalize that. Sure. So you can get in there and get the permit application in. We'll continue on with this. In two weeks. Okay. Is that fair enough? So I need to amend... You have to go in and amend your application. I do not believe you have to repost it, but I'm going to leave that up to legal counsel and the building department. Okay. You will need to update the date on your sign. So if the signs are still in good condition, you could just cross off the date and put the next date, which is October 10th. Should you need new signs, I can provide them. I think with the rain it was... Okay. ... barely hanging on. So I can prep new signs for you. That's fine. So if you have any questions, you can either, you know, tomorrow or Monday, whatever day you choose, you can either go to planning or you can come up to legal and we'll walk you through it. Because I could tell you're perhaps not sure, but we'll walk you through it. I know you will. Yes, we will. They're very friendly. They're very friendly. They just want you to make a little application amendment. That's all. What's the next day? So... October 10th. Mr. Chairman, I move that we adjourn the appeal 24-24 to October 10th. So October 10th? Second. Thank you, sir. All right. Mr. Prashetta? Aye. Mr. Zawieski? Aye. Mr. Barnes? Aye. Mr. Godzilla? Aye. And I vote aye. So you're all set? Just get that work done and we'll see you in two weeks. Thank you, Michael. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Michael. Thanks for coming in. Okay. The last appeal we have is appeal number 2024-026, Bernquist, 55 Jacobs Place, Aquabog, Suffolk County Tax Note Number 600-86-4-8, Residence B40 Zoning, Proposed Addition, Deck, Aboveground Pool, and Existing Shed. Applicant Requests, Variances, and or Relief from Town Code Chapter 301 of the

Act, 301-15A1A, where accessory structures, pool, and deck, in front yard not permitted. 301-15A1D, where shed in front yard not permitted in the existing 2.4 foot from property line. And 301-17, where proposed side setback is 7.4 feet, the minimum required is 25 feet, where proposed rear setback is 16.4 feet, and minimum required is 60 feet. All right. Thank you. And where proposed impervious surface coverage is 39 percent and maximum permitted is 15 percent. Please raise your right hand. You saw me swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so I'll help you God. Yes. Please state your name and address. Sure. Tracy Rivera. Tracy's permit, 363 Terryville Road, Terryville, New York, 11776. Okay. Is that your case? Sure. Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of the Board. I'm here right now to speak with the Board of Trustees. I'm here to speak with the Board of Trustees. I'm here representing Maya Fenquest at 55 Jacobs Place. Just want to give you a little history on the property. She purchased the property back in 2017 with the intentions on expanding it, not realizing the permits that were going to be needed. As many homeowners that purchase properties, they don't realize what they're going to get entailed with. Maya had reached out to me probably about a year and a half ago to discuss the property, and like every client I take on, we do a full review. We do full head-to- américUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU 4730-01946 backslash 00001 and that grant is for exactly the survey that you're seeing we also went before the conservatory board had a couple meetings back and forth with them they had also approved the application that is before you today so what we're looking to do is do a one story addition that is let me open up the survey so I can look at the exact size we are looking to do a 15 by approximately 50 foot wide addition once one story addition it's just going to be an expansion of living space then only as they've outgrown the house and that was always their intentions on it we're going to be looking to hold about a seven and a half foot side yard setback which I had already advised the owner that when this is to take place that we will have it staked out by a surveyor to make sure that we're not coming back before the board in case the um the addition is made a little larger um as you are aware we already had an application that was before you this evening with Larry Davis that was in the community right in this area requesting a five foot side yard where we needed to keep 25. I'd like to make that part of the record because uh it's very similar to what we're doing today except we're not five foot we're seven and a half foot you already granted a five foot um I have a footprint a little floor plan that was drawn out that I'd like to give up to the board and I'd like to rattle off just give me one second because I don't want to make multiple trips I've also um went around the surrounding areas and we have 114 Meeting House Creek Road which has a small side yard 109 96 52 102 38 37 73 lots of ink lots of pictures right 60 pine 37 pine I believe the application with Larry Davis and Kelly development was on pine we and 55 and 80 pine so these are all pictures I took in the area here's a floor plan to show you that it's just going to be a den and I have a picture of the front of the house and an area on where the condition is going to be it didn't like I said I did do my round Robin um we're also before you in case you need an aerial and have an aerial as well the other thing we'll be for the board for today is we are looking to propose a front deck of the front of the house as you can see this house is not um your average house uh and with the front deck we're looking to put an above ground pool so uh we have that and we're looking to legalize a little shed this in the area the DEC who's usually very strict with uh a lot coverage and worried about the area and negative impacts environmentally have already approved this exactly as it is before you um I don't feel that it's a negative impact as we have DEC approval conservatory approval there is no increase in bedrooms it's just the den to increase living space for her family any questions oh anybody on the border I'm just gonna uh correct the reference sure when you say the conservatory you were referring to the um go ahead conservation conservation advisor too many building departments too many boards that go before sorry yeah that's quite exactly thank you I've been doing this for like I don't know I'm aging myself out right now I've been doing this over 30 years so yeah so any questions you may have no if I I just want to put on the record because you mentioned it with respect to Kelly development core yeah to me there's a slight difference there because we went from two foot to five foot it was an existing structure two foot off okay it wasn't a similar Grant to that that's really just for the record okay that's fine but yeah even though it was okay so have any of the neighbors seen the project um actually there's a neighbor that's here that's in support of the application what a surprise yes we brought a neighbor that's in support of it and everyone that there were only four people we had to notify there's not a lot of people in the area this is called more vegetated it's not that little uh does anybody want to speak against this or against it or for it I'm like we need to go outside if you're against you want to speak for it come on up Rick I'd be happy to speak for it you mean Richard no it is don't get about that don't get too busy don't get too windy hey I mean uh raise that right hand you sound as well to tell me yes please state your name and address my name is Richard Nemchik I live at 65 Jacob's Place right next door sweet so you'll be using the pool I take it I would hope so but uh you know the neighborhood is a slightly different than what you talk about at Pine everybody is closer on that street this doesn't affect the proximity to other houses I'm their exact neighbor I'm the only one that can see their house from my house I have no problem with this I believe this will be visible by any other house either except for when driving by for the pool but there's nobody in the neighborhood that opposes this I don't oppose it it's going up against their the prop of the house extension is going to be up against vegetation that is a triangle of about 50 foot by 50 foot maybe and it can never be built upon so it's not going to be infringing on any other house or a person it's going to be vacant land there it's just that can't be built upon so anyway I'm before it and nobody else showed up so I'm sure they're for it thank you thank you questions you're a good neighbor try to be they're good neighbors thank you all right there's no Zoom so so who's that's breeding I submitted an aerial view too that that depicts exactly what he's talking about shows you how ethically vegetated it is in the the land that it does affect that's not going to be built we saw the vegetation I know you did one thing we didn't go there at night I know right but never found the house but we're just kidding it's pretty house I like it who's got it I got it John Mr Chairman with respect to appeal number 2024-026 I moved at the appeal of Maha frontquist 55 Jacobs Place aquabog STM number 600-86-4-8 residents b-40 rb40 zoning for variances and a relief from the town code chapter 301-15a1a where accessory structures pool and deck in the front yard not permitted 301-15a1d where shed and front yard not permitted existing is 2.4 feet from the property line and 301-17 where proposed side set back is 7.4 feet and the minimum required 25.4. [transcription gap] feet, where proposed real setback is 16.4 feet and minimum required is 60 feet, and where proposed impervious surface coverage is 39% and maximum permitted is 15%, be granted in accordance with the applications and sketches with amendments thereto, if any, as filed with the building inspector. I second. I vote. Mr. Portia. Aye. Mr. Zawieski. Aye. Mr. Barnes. Aye. Mr. Gazillo. Aye. And I vote aye. So you're very... Thank you. Sorry if I gave you too much paperwork. I would rather be overprepared than under. Thank you very much. Good job. All right. Do we have any minutes to approve? Yes. The minutes from September 12, 2024. Do I have a second? Aye. I second. All in favor? Aye. And what else? Next meeting is October 10, 2024. October. So we need a motion to be adjourned, right? So moved. Second. All in favor? Aye. October 10? Mm-hmm. Thank you. Thank you.

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