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[transcription gap] 14.2 feet and the minimum required is 25 feet and chapter 301-29a1c or existing shed 7.3 feet by 9.8 feet in rear yard is 19.8 feet from the property line and the minimum required is 20 feet yes you know the drill so i'm going to swear to tell the truth your whole truth nothing but the truth so help you god yes please state your name and address sure uh tracy rivera rena tracy's permits uh 363 terryville road uh terryville new york 11776 tell us what you're looking for please so um first thing we'll do is we'll address the shed that is at 19.8 verse 20 we're already here before the board for the garage and the shed just happened to be part of the application so we added it on the major part of the application today is the proposed 29 by 31 foot detached car garage that's holding a 14.2 side yard verse 20 um after speaking with the the owners of the property the reason that they want the garage and the location is at verse further back in the yard is because they have a growing family with young children and they want to be able to have access to the garage to be able to access the side of the house when they're parking the garage when they're coming in with the children um they'll be using the garage for storage they will not be finishing off the garage i have drove around the area there are many um oddly shaped parcels in the area of uh different size parcels with garages and whatnot some that have like two front yards some that have a front yard and a side yard it was very hard to see the setbacks on what is uh with the other parcels in the area if you want i could submit the aerials and the and the pictures that i do have um but it was it was a little difficult to get pictures from the street so i'm going to go ahead and show you the pictures that i have um but i'm going to go ahead and show you the pictures that i have um we don't feel that this is really that impactful um the properties are heavily vegetated uh the neighbor that would be most directly affected by this was spoken to when the owner had given me feedback that they didn't have any issues with it once again it's just really kind of a storage and um they wanted to keep it kind of a little closer to the house just so they can access the garage and go into the house instead of further back um with the code i did speak with andreas and it needs to be fixed but i think it's going to be fixed but i think it's going to be fixed but i think so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so pictures I could get from the street just to show you the character of the neighborhood in case anyone is not really you know familiar with the area I'll address any questions we've all been there oh okay so I just want to make a correction for the record sure you stated that the proposed side yard is 14.2 where minimum required is 20 the minimum required is actually 25 oh okay so the girl the shed was 20 correct sorry the minimum because 20 the shed is in the rear yard so then the setbacks and the property lines are 20 feet when it's in a side yard 25 correct yeah sorry about that so yes so we're supposed to be at 25 and uh we're at 14 we're proposing 14 do you have any plans do you have a set of points I could look no I didn't so I I really I really try to make it where the homeowners don't have to spend money until they're approved on something so I didn't have them do plans on it you because they're not actually approved for it so you know so is is it going to have an exterior set of stairs no no exterior stairs only two front garage doors and no windows or any anything on so no windows in the garage anywhere no not well if there's an awfully big garage not that I have a problem with a big garage um I just find it strange that you know it doesn't have any light in there natural light during the day um and is there going to be a second story so you're asking me so I didn't have any head lights so I didn't have head lights so I didn't have head lights so I didn't have head lights so I didn't have head lights so I didn't have head lights so I didn't have head lights so I didn't have head lights so I didn't have head lights so I didn't have head lights so I didn't have head lights so I didn't have head lights so I didn't have head lights so I didn't have head lights so I didn't have head lights so I didn't have head lights so I didn't have 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If anything, it would be rafters, and if there was a second floor, it wouldn't be at the height where you can finish it off for habitable space. Okay. All right. Well, it's kind of hard for me to approve something I don't know what's going to look like because I can tell from my past experiences what it's going to be, how it's designed. Would you like us to come back and have an elevation drawing so you can see what the elevation is? Oh, an elevation drawing is okay. Okay. I just don't tell the clients to go and have construction documents and spend money on things that aren't approved because if the board says no, then they've wasted money, and certain towns require it as part of the application. Right. And if it's not required, then I don't normally have them spend the money on it just in case. So you wouldn't want to attach the garage to the main structure? No. They're not looking to attach the garage to the main structure. They don't want to? No. Because there's a heat pump in the way and a few other items that might interfere with that. Yes. And like I said, they're a young family. They have small children. They're growing. Actually, they're expecting another child any day. So the husband's like, I really need my garage. So is it going to be like a man's cave? No. As far as I've been told, it's strictly just going to be a garage. I mean, I can't say that he's going to be sitting out there with his cars once all the kids start coming around. Well, these structures, they're large, and they do become very useful. Yes. But they do turn into. They turn into other things. Yeah. No, there's no. There's no. Because you never get rid of your kids this way. Yeah. So there's. If you put them in that structure. There's no speaker. There was never any talk of him converting anything over. If there was, it would have been the garage that's attached to the house. Okay. As part of the house, maybe. I would like something maybe basically in writing that the ceiling heights. Sure. The ceiling joist heights on the second floor. Okay. That there'll be no exterior stairs. Absolutely. No storage. Or living habitable space on the second floor, if any. Perfect. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And they should consider some windows. Yes. Or a window. If they are, it's not going to be on the side of the parcel that affects the neighbor. If they did to put windows in. Okay. It wouldn't be the way it would affect. Thank you. Can I ask you a question? Sure. Go ahead. I think you just mentioned it. So there is an existing garage in the house? With the house, yes. There is an attached garage, yes. Okay. And then so this is for. Well, this. They're going to be using this as a garage. They have extra vehicles and they need more space. Okay. Yeah. And there's talk of them in the future turning over, you know, the existing attached garage to living space in the future. There is, you know, talk of it. Okay. But for the record now, it's not living space? As far as I know, it's not. But they do have it in their mind to make it living space someday. The garage. Yeah. Absolutely. Their family is expanding. So, you know, a good architect will help you design it. Mm-hmm. For future uses as well. And I'm not sure Whitting River allows accessory apartments in that zone. But they are allowed. Hmm? RB80? Yeah. It's allowed. So if you build the garage and you decide to put accessory structure in their living habitable space, you need to have a CO for three years on the garage. Just keep that in mind. I got to tell you, I do a lot. I've been doing expediting for like permitting now for like, I don't know, 30 years. And I tell people all the time. If you're going to buy, buy in Riverhead. Because I know that if you have a detached structure and you're in the right zone and you have a CO for a certain period of time, you can like put your in-laws there. You can put your family there. Let me tell you something. You can't do that in other townships. No, I know. No, like, I mean, yeah. So how long would it take you to prepare a plan and or a written write-up requested by zoning board members? 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getting another message. I'm quite sure when you're along this far coming to the zoning board, you probably have an architect. I would have to ask him. I'm sure, you know, I know he has his contractor. He made a lot of money at the time, and I get that. Okay. So maybe you can draw up, you know, a conceptual plan. Okay, perfect. And then we'll. Okay. Look, bless you. Thank you. You're welcome. Okay, so that's fine. I'm sure they're not going to have any issues with that, drawing up the plan, saying that there's not going to be any habitable space above. And what was the other thing that you wanted on that? So he wanted a statement regarding no exterior stair, that the structure, the second story or the rafters would be limited to storage and not habitable space. Okay, that's fine. Yeah, ceiling joists. Sure. So we can adjourn. Sure. And if you'd like, you can contact Heather. Sure. And you can determine when you, you can have that available and we'll reschedule you for the next available. Do I have to repost or remail? No. No. Okay, perfect. So I'll email you. I'll probably send you an email once I leave here. And then I'll get in touch with the owners to move forward. You want to adjourn and leave it open? Let's get it out of here. If he's all right with that. Why don't we approve it so we have to reseed it? Subject to? Yeah, that's fine. Okay. Thank you. That's fine. Me too. Is there anyone out there that wants to speak on the variance? No. Hi, Mr. Chairman. Respectfully regard to appeal number 2025-018. I moved at the appeal of George Fondas, 24 Michaels Lane, waiting ribbon, SCTM number 600-96-1-9.2, residence B80, RB-80 zoning, for variance and a relief from town code, chapter 301-29A, subdivision 1B. We propose garage side yard setback is 14.2 feet. Minimum required is 25 feet. And 301-29A-1C, where existing shed 7.3 feet by 9.8 feet. In rear yard is 19.8 feet. From property line, minimum required. Be approved in accordance with the applications and sketches what amendments did to, if any, as filed, the building inspector, subject to the conditions of receipt of? Subject to receipt of stamped plans, depicting the, quote, interior space and improvements, and subject to a written statement stating no exterior staircase, no exterior space, no exterior staircase, not to be used for habitable space and limited to storage to be approved by council that statement to be approved by council to the ZBI. Okay. Alright. Sounds fabulous. Can I? Second. Thank you. Mr. Prushev. Aye. Mrs. Oleski. Aye. Mr. Barnes. Aye. Mr. Godzilla. Aye. And I vote aye so good luck. Perfect. On another note does anybody have a restaurant they suggest in the area that they're going to go out to eat? Farm Country Kitchen. I love it. Farm Country Kitchen. Okay. The Modern Snack Bar. Thank you so much. That's a conflict.

Thank you. If you go there once we'll have you for life. But that's alright. Yeah. You can't get rid of me. Who says you can't have fun? Alright. Heather please. Sorry. I'm all business. Appeal number? 2025-022 William Boyd. 210 Sound Road Wading River. Suffolk County Tax Number 600-30-3-27.4 Residence B80 Zoning for a proposed two-story detached garage. Applicant requests variances and or relief from Town Code Chapter 301-29A1C where proposed accessory side yard abutting side street setback is 29.5 feet. Minimum required is 60 feet. The property is a !

Perfect. Thank you. You're right. I think. You're right. Well done. Alright. Okay. Let's go. Hi. I'm Bill Boyd. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Please raise your right hand. I swear to tell the truth. The whole truth. Nothing but the truth. So help me God. I do. Please state your name and address. William Boyd. 210 Sound Road Wading River. I'm here with my wife Tracy today. We're looking for variance. We want to put a two-car garage with a rec room on top. I believe you have a two-car garage. [transcription gap] I believe you have the drawings also. They were filed with the building department. If not, I believe I have a set with me. If you'd like to see them. Well, you're going to have a rec room upstairs? Yes. Okay. Yes. This is the land. And if you've been to my house, you've seen the plethora of junk. Yeah. As far as the. I want to know if you have any other questions. No. I'm sorry. [transcription gap] So I'm just going to note for you, you would require potentially an importation permit under the town code. Okay. To bring in material. I'd also like to ask you a question. I reviewed the plans with the members of the board, and it looks like for the recreation space, a large room. Yes. No dividers, nothing. Not at this point in time. Right. Yet you're proposing and expending money on a sanitary system. Well, it shows a bathroom on the drawing that I submitted to the building department. I'm fairly sure it did. Yeah. According to the plans that were provided to the ZBA, I don't believe there was any bathroom. Oh, wait a minute. There is because I actually went through it with the building. The building inspector? I'm not sure. Is he? Heather, am I wrong? I'm not. They're not on the plans that are in our file. I don't know if there are additional plans in the building department file.

Because I actually applied for a permit. I have approval from the Suffolk County Waste Management for the septic system. I have approval.

I thought I saw that. Yes, I included that when I gave it to you. The sanitary system is shown on the survey. It's just the floor plans and cross-sectional. Improvements are not in the plan. The ones I submitted to the building department had them. So because we had that discussion, I apologize if it didn't make its way to you. So you're going to bring Phil in. You're going to build the septic system. Yes. I already had the test holes done. And the health department gave you a permit? Yes, I can send a copy of it if you wish. I would like to see it. Sure. Have it sent, please. Certainly. Is the scanned copy okay? Yeah, you can email it to me and I'll disperse it to the board. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks, Ralph. It was good music. I can't see. I know. All right. Is there anyone in the audience that would like to comment on this variance? That's it? Nobody has anything to say? Who's got it? Anybody got it? I don't know. Any other questions? How is that going to interplay with your residence as far as sanitizing? I don't know. [transcription gap] Sanitary. It shouldn't. I had this stuff accounted for. You're going to have two sets of sanitary. Correct. Interesting. I actually had that discussion with Harold Tranchen who did it originally. Oh, it's in the file. Okay. Good. Thank you. So I had a test hole done. Quite interesting. I'm sorry I didn't hear what you said. I just said quite interesting. Who's got the ring on this? Heather? I do. Ready to go. Okay. Thank you. [transcription gap] There you go. We should have a comment in there about the getting the approval from the health department, shouldn't we? Right. So does the zoning board want an opportunity to review that or is submission, receipt, circulation and review sufficient? Yes. And if we're going to amend that resolution, just add that they need to get a import export permit from the building department as well. So you need to amend your. Application. Yes. It used to be called chapter 63. It's something different. Yeah. 229. Exactly how you want it written. Would you mind explaining it to a civilian? I understand. I understand. Okay. So you're saying that. The permit. The additional permit that I need. So. There's. People were moving soils around and they were ruining our roads. So the town decided to create an import export. Law. Okay. So it addresses it. Do you drive along 25 in Calverton? Yes. How are those roads? Horrible. They're bad. Not ideal. And they're bad. Because. Not ideal. There was materials taken out of there over the last 25 years. And. They've destroyed that road. So the town decided to charge $2 a yard. Okay. For import or exportation. Okay. All right. Thank you. There are exemptions in the code for certain activities. And if you're under a certain amount of fill. So once you determine how much fill you need, you could probably go over it with the chief building inspector and they can determine if you would be eligible for a certificate of exemption. Okay. I mean, it's not a big. Happens to me. I mean, it's not a big deal. [transcription gap] But happy to get the permit. Happy to figure out how much fill it needs. I'm happy to do whatever you guys want. So it's maybe as applicable. Right. And it's your. It's in your best interest because the town will sit with you, review your project plan. If you require a permit, they'll tell you that. that, it will also give you information about the importance of quote, importing clean material and material that has certain structural integrity for what you're intending to do on the property. Okay. Sounds, thank you. Okay. And that's just an application or is that another appearance before the . If after tonight you're going back to the building department, you will have a copy of this determination. Okay. Which will provide this information requiring them to give your application a hard look with respect to the proposed fill in the area approximate to the improvements. Terrific, thank you. But I grew up there, so I know it. Okay. Okay. Mr. Chairman, with respect to appeal number 2025-022, I move that the appeal of William Boyd 210 Sound Road, Wading River, STM number 600-30-3-27.4, residents B80, RB80 zoning for variances and or relief from town code chapter 301-29A subsection 1C, where proposed accessory side yard abutting side street set pack is 29.5 feet, minimum required is 60 feet, be granted subject to the following. One, landmarks preservation committee approval. Two, health department approval if applicable. Three, garage shall not be used for habitable space such as living accommodations, sleeping, et cetera. It shall not be improved with kitchen or bath facilities. Okay. It shall not be improved with kitchen or bath facilities such as installation of toilet, sinks, showers, et cetera, without approval from the building department and meeting all town code requirements and additional approvals as required, including compliance with chapter 105. Four, compliance with the town code for importation of material via a permit if applicable in accordance with the applications and sketches with amendments thereto. If any, as filed with the building inspector. Second. Mr. Portia. Aye. Mr. Huesca. Aye. Mr. Barnes. Aye. Mr. Gazzillo. Aye. And I vote aye. So your variances have been granted and good luck. Thank you very much, Peter. I'm a helpful service to the community. Thank you. You're welcome. Good luck. Well, you might need that for the building. Yeah. You might need that for the building. I think it's a good idea. [transcription gap] I think they need that for the construction project. Yeah. Hanging in your kitchen. Thank you. Have a good night. Thank you. Heather. Ready for the last one? So appeal number 2025-023, William Osborn, 2705 Brown Oak Avenue, Riverhead, Suffolk County tax amount number 600-15-1-1.1, residence A40 zoning for a proposed one story studio with basement and two car detached garage. Applicant requests variances and or relief from Town Code Chapter 219-14A2 where proposed studio with basement and two car garage are not specifically allowed development under Section 219-14 subsection B. All development in bluff areas is prohibited unless specifically allowed by Section 219-14 subsection B. Good evening, Mr. Kelly. Good evening. Welcome. For the applicant. With me tonight is Mr. Arnott. Mr. Arnott. Yes. And I'm going to introduce you to Susan Osborn who is sitting in front row there. And Susan Haar who was the other applicant is in London. She has a play in the King's Head Theater. She's a writer and that's one of the things we're asking for is a writer's studio. There are two accessory uses that we're looking for as Heather just indicated. One is a 545 square foot garage and the other is essentially a 575 foot writer's studio that shows up on the map as 1,159 square feet because there's a basement beneath that particular structure. And that can be more explained to you by the engineer in a short time. This site, and I assume some of you have been there, but this site is essentially a level plateau area that we're building on. It's not a slope area. It's a flat area. And it's been there for years and years. And it's been there for years and years. I think, and I assume you have a copy of the survey, but if you do not, I can put it into evidence, but you may already have that. The owner, Mr. Osborn, has made an affidavit within just a minute. I'll give you several things. To indicate to you that this level area has been there as far as he knows all the way back to 1964. Toad was adopted. In other words, it pre-exists. His house does pre-exist. Of course, his house is down on the beach. But that's been there for many, many years. In addition to the affidavit and survey, which I, as I said, I believe you have, I'd like to complete the record by making sure that the comments that are required by the instruction sheet, number 4, you ask a number of questions. We've answered all those questions. I HAVE THE COMMENTS HERE, SO I WILL ALSO PUT THAT INTO EVIDENCE. HEATHER MADE UP A STAFF REPORT, AND I ASSUME YOU RELY ON THAT STAFF REPORT AND THAT YOU ALSO HAVE THAT, BUT IF YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT, I WILL ALSO PUT THAT IN EVIDENCE. IT WAS SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE APPLICATION. I'LL TAKE IT. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 5 OF THE STAFF REPORT, YOU CAN SEE THE LEVEL AREA WHERE THE CARS ARE PARKED, AND THAT BASICALLY IS THE AREA THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT USING FOR BOTH OF THESE STRUCTURES. I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO LEAVE YOU WITH A COPY OF THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY SURVEY, BECAUSE THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE IS BUILT SO THAT THE COASTAL EROSION LINE GOES RIGHT THROUGH THE HOUSE. AND DURING A PREVIOUS SURVEY, WE HAD A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO DO. IN THE LAST PERIOD OF TIME, WHEN I HAVE SOME OF THE COs AND DOCUMENTS WHO ARE ISSUING PERMITS, THEY HAVE MADE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE HOUSE, AND THEY'VE GOTTEN IT DOWN TO ISSUE PERMITS FOR THEM. SO I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE UNDERSTANDING AS TO WHAT'S DONE IN THAT AREA, THAT THEY ALSO HAVE SOUGHT IMPROVEMENTS AND HAD THEM ISSUE COs AND PERMITS FOR THEM. WHAT WE'RE REALLY HERE FOR TONIGHT IS TO ASK FOR VARIANCE. WE'RE IN THE MID-SEVEN YEAR YEAR. because we realize that prohibition is in the code, but also 21920 allows us to have a variance if we can show that there's no alternative to what we're proposing and that we can mitigate the adverse impacts and that we can show that there won't be erosion or damage. And I think we can do that, and the engineer is here to do that. Both the engineer and architect are here. I don't know if I introduced them before, but Sean Madigan is the architect. Matthew Elward is the engineer. He's going to speak following me in just a minute. And at this point, if you have questions of me, fine, but I think you may be more interested in listening to the engineer to explain exactly what is proposed for this site. So I just have a few. Okay. So you can't help but notice on the proposed plan that you're not only proposing that you're not only proposing that you're not only proposing that you're not only proposing a sanitary system, but also drainage, correct? Yes. And are you abandoning the existing sanitary system for the house? Is the house going to connect? The house is completely separate from this. Okay. So this sanitary system is only for the, quote, writer's studio. Yes, and that's a half bath. Yes. In other words, there's no shower. There's a toilet and there's a sink. So when you talked about no possible other improvement, you just recited to the town board a, I'm assuming another preexisting use house where the coastal erosion line kind of bisects the house. Yes. And they received approval. So in this instance, why couldn't it actually be a house? Why couldn't an application be made if there was, quote, truly lack of living space to accommodate a writing area? Why couldn't it be incorporated into the house without, quote, further construction or compromise of the area of the coastal erosion hazard zone? Well, I think if you see the house, you wouldn't want to build down where they built because that house is on the beach. And that house, when there's storms, is in really serious trouble. Fortunately, a lot of it is concrete in the front and it stops the water from coming in. But when there's a storm, they have to vacate that house. So we wouldn't want to try and build again down in that site. And I would not think the town would want us to build on the beach. Well, I don't know. You were the one who provided the building. Yes. You provided the zoning board with an example of another preexisting house. Oh, that's way up. You have to realize where that is. That's way up high. Correct. So it's a different situation, I think. But I have the engineer here to go over with what is going to be done at the site so you can have maybe a better idea exactly of what's being done. So, but there have been additional improvements to the house since the 1960s and the original certificate of occupancy. Yes. You've added decks, too. A 14 by 16 and a 15 by 6 by 12. Mm-hmm. That's magnificent. Correct. They did do that, yes. There's a master's coming home now. Oh, my God. 12. But they had another living space, which you were talking about, and they said, no, I don't think they would ever want to do that. I see. Okay.

That's it for now. Okay. Okay. All right. That's it. Please raise your right hand. You saw him as a friend to tell the truth, to hold truth, and nothing but the truth. I do. I hope you got it. Please state your name and address. Matthew Aylward with R&M Engineering. 50 Elm Street in Huntington. Okay. Site, civil engineer, professional engineer, New York. Okay. Spell your list, Dave. A-Y-L-W-A-R-D.

When we were contacted about the project intent here, we realized that the property was unique in the sense that trying to do any type of accessory structure in this property would be very difficult. So when we took it on, we were mindful in our engineering. We were mindful of the bluff and of the stability of the bluff and recognized the area that Mr. Cuddy had said that there was this plateau. So the redevelopment was to be within the plateau. However, in order to meet the needs of the client, it extended just slightly a little bit. So we're increasing the impervious area within that plateau by 938 square feet. As part of the design to accommodate this, instead of using just typical techniques of construction. Like for example, there's an existing retaining wall that's on the south side of this parking area for the driveway that needs to be replaced. Instead of using just concrete block or poured concrete walls, conventional type retaining walls, we wanted to make sure that we maintain the bluff stability in the back and did as little damage to the vegetation that's there as well as the topography. So we're proposing a post and panel type of retaining wall construction that is typically used in a shoring of excavation that you see in the city. So we're going to have a little bit of a !

So that it doesn't put any type of pressure or load surcharge onto that bluff as well. As Mr. Petty said, we also were installing a sanitary system for the bathrooms that are within the accessory structure. We're not going to be touching the sanitary system that's with the main house. To do so would be to pump it up into this new system, which would just have to trench through the bluff and then disturb more vegetation that way. The second thing that we're doing is we're providing drainage for the driveway as it comes down. If you realize you were at the property, when you went up the driveway, there was kind of a little ridge and then you come back down. We're collecting all the rainwater that's at that ridge that now flows down into the existing parking area. We're going to collect that. We have two inches of storage for that ridge all the way down, including the ! The second thing that we're doing is we're providing drainage for the driveway as it comes down. We're going to collect that. We have two inches of storage for that ridge all the way down, including the existing parking area. We're going to collect that. We have two inches of storage for that ridge all the way down, including the new roof area as well as the parking area that we're proposing. We believe that the construction methods that we're proposing here will minimize the disturbance to the bluff. When it's done, there will be no negative impact to the stability of the bluff, nor to the vegetation that was preserved. Additionally, any disturbed areas that we're impacting will be revegetated with saltwater tolerant native vegetation. We believe that the ! The water that you collected at the crest. Where did you say it's going? So there's a ridge in the driveway as you come in and you go back down. So we're picking up that ridge that flows towards the accessory structure. And we're putting in precast dry wells in the driveway parking area. And how far do they go down? About four feet, five feet. And they just drain right into the sand? Correct. Correct. The soils that are there are very sandy soils. So there won't be a problem. So that's the first thing. So you made a statement that it was a minimal expansion. Yet you threw out the number 958 square feet. Is it your opinion that an encroachment with an improvement of 958 square feet is minimal? 938 square feet within that plateau area. Okay. Which doesn't presently exist. The plateau area is there, but the impervious surface is not. Correct. Correct. That's virgin soil right now. Virgin sand. It's a natural area. I would say it's been disturbed. I wouldn't say it's virgin in the sense that it hasn't been touched. I believe it has at some point been manipulated at some point. Next. If you did less in proposed improvements. In proposed improvements on the property. In turn, it would require less drainage. True? That is true. Okay. And I believe the proposal includes a basement. Correct. So the excavation of a basement, that's pretty impactful. Don't you think? No. [transcription gap] Because the way the plateau is, it's roughly varies. We'll average it, say, at around elevation 50. So we're setting the first floor at elevation 50. That expansion to the north projects out over the existing bluff by about 15 feet. And that bluff dies down. So what we're having is, we have this projection of the first floor over the bluff. So what we're doing is, we realized that we have this void space now. So we're filling that in. And that's where the basement is. comes from so basically what the site would look like is you have a pre-existing house hanging over the bluff same kind of cantilevered effect and now you're proposing other improvements with a cantilevered effect what you're describing no I'm just right it's it's not existing I think you were saying it's existing house well the house the house is down at the base yeah correct that's out of the bluff correct it's at the base of the bluff so it's not projecting over the block okay right so in a sense this is projecting slightly out by 15 feet and then like I said there's that void space underneath this proposed structure so utilize that space and the garage is proposed on a slab correct and why couldn't quote the garage incorporate an area for writing rather than quote a proposed structure requiring excavation a basement and then 938 feet projecting and encroaching more into the coastal erosion hazard area okay okay ! I'm not sure I understand the question you're saying to get rid of the garage well so this second structure one is a garage and the second structure which is complete with the sanitary system and drainage has basement and then above elevation to which you described a part of it is going to be like cantilevered is a part of it is going to be like a !

so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so so solitude. I had a personal relationship with a writer named Leon Uris. He wrote Exodus, that's the Jewish people coming to Palestine, and I met him because he came out here looking for a place of solitude where he could write. And I think that people who write look for separate places without any interference from the home. In other words, there's no noise, there's no telephones, it's just a place where they can write. And that's done quite regularly. John Steinbeck had that in Sag Harbor, the same type of thing, a small cottage. And that's what they do. So it's not something you can just merge two places together. We've actually put these two buildings together. But there's a house on the property. There's a house below and that's why I'm saying to you the So I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. I think that's a great question. A writer is looking for a place of solitude. Being in a house is not that. It's just a question of what they do. The same thing happens to an artist. An artist looks for a place where they can be by themselves. That's why she's asked for this. And she's definitely a writer. Right. You would agree not all properties can accommodate every desired improvement that somebody wants to make. Right. You would agree not all properties can accommodate every desired improvement that somebody wants to make. Right. You would agree not all properties can accommodate every desired improvement that somebody wants to make. So I would agree that not everybody can have everything on their property. But here, there's an acre plus property. The house is way away from this, several hundred feet away from this particular site. And so what they're trying to do is to have a separate place outside of the house. That's all they're asking for. And that's done, as I say, not unusually. All within the coastal erosion hazard zone. All disturbing. [transcription gap] But the disturbance here, excuse me, is minimal disturbance. It's not going to destroy the bluff. It's not going to destroy. That's what I think the engineer has just gone through with you. That what they're doing is they're taking an area that basically is a level area and extending it a little bit. But they're not trying to do anything that's going to hurt the bluff. And that was from the beginning. That was the whole concept. Okay. I'm not able to say something. Yeah, go ahead. My name is Sean Madigan. I'm the architect. Yeah, if I get the question. You're Sean Madigan? Yeah. We got a story to answer. Okay. You saw me swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and the . Yes, I did. Can you state your name and address? Sean Madigan, 42 School Street, Hampton Bay. So there's one thing I think we did not discuss is that the project site is an existing driveway. Are you guys all clear on that? Okay. Because we're talking about disturbance of the site. But and how I just wanted to point out that this is already an existing driveway. And we're building this. We're proposing to build this structure on the existing driveway spot. That's why we located it there because it's the only already disturbed spot on the site besides the house itself. Ms. Madigan, you're an architect? Yes. Oh, thank you. I just wanted to be clear. Okay. I just wanted to point that out. It's already disturbed. There's a driveway there. Yeah. Well, I'm pretty good at reviewing plans. Okay. It's the driveway is extended and expanded, correct? Yes. Yeah. Okay. So. Yes, slightly. But it's not 900 square feet of expansion is what I want to point out. No. But then off that, you have the proposed structures. Yes. And just to all of you. I just wanted to also clarify, you know, let's say we, let's entertain an idea. We put the, this proposed structure where the driveway is completely and not, don't disturb anything else, right? We would have no way to back out of the driveway. So you'd have to back up this hill and then down. It's a very long driveway. So part of the necessity of nestling the garage to the side like this is to provide a little turnaround so that you can actually back the car up. That way, otherwise you're literally backing up a driveway that's hundreds of feet long every day. Just wanted to point that out. How do the cars get out from the house presently? It's kind of this, almost the same shape that's shown. It's slightly larger obviously. But basically they park where the garage is now is where they park their cars. And when they back up, they back up to the exact spot where we're proposing that they back up now. So. The circulation of the site is essentially staying exactly the same. There's just a garage over where the cars are being parked right now. The area where the proposed rec room and the garage are, is that vegetated right now? So there is a portion of it that's vegetated. And if you look at, I'm not looking at the, his plans showed a little better. But so I would say from. The steps entering to the side of the proposed one story studio, seaward, it is currently vegetated. And then from that steps landward is the driveway. Approximately. Could I just go. Part of the reason why we did the cantilever was to avoid further disruption of the ground. Right. So we're floating over the ground and not disturbing soil. Is the answer. The intention. Just want to go back to the question earlier about why the two can't be incorporated as one. I understood what you said about you can't work inside the house. You need a quiet space. I'm not so sure I understood how that related to the alternative of putting the garage on the first level on the slab and having the writer's studio on the second. That I'm just not so sure I understood. Because. I mean. At first I thought it was going to be height. But then I look at the number of steps that are inside going up and down that plateau. You must have great legs if you're walking there. Well that's kind of what I was going to say is, you know, there's already, I don't know the number of steps. But let's just say 30 to estimate. Or more from the house to this area. And then let's say you wake up. You want to go write in your writer's studio. Now you have to climb another set of steps once you get inside. It's just it gets excessive. So we were trying to keep it one story. That was the goal. And the one story structure is less impactful visually to the block from the water. So instead of having a two story structure that's located within the block visually, aesthetically, it's only a one story structure. Mr. Cuddy, do you have any examples of applications wherein similar relief was granted? Like in that coastal erosion area? Yes. No. I don't know of any. But this again is unique because here, unlike talking about the coastal erosion area. Could you speak at the mic, Mr. Cuddy? Thank you. Here, unlike talking about the coastal erosion area as a slope area, this is a level area. So that's why we put it there. And that's why we're asking the board to approve it. Because it's unique. I mean there is no slope where we're really working. So that makes to me a big difference between just saying coastal erosion as if it were a sanctified area. It's an area that's level, that's being disturbed very little. And has been used for 50 years. Any other comments? I think we're good. Thank you. [transcription gap] Thank you. [transcription gap] that you want to speak to? I just want to ask a couple questions. Come up to the mic, please.

Okay. I'm getting good at this swearing in. I'll swear at my wife and at supper, but please raise your right hand. I do solemnly swear to tell the truth, all truth and nothing but the truth, so I'll be God. I sure do. Please state your name and address. Margaret Flood, 2693 Roanoke Avenue, Riverhead, New York. So how close are you to this property? I'm on top. I bought their property on the top. When you go into those two driveways, you're the one on the right. No. She's just to the south. I'm just to the south. Thank you. Their driveway, the driveway they're talking about, my property runs completely along that driveway. Right. Right. Do you have the in-ground pool? No. No. I saw, is your property above the road? Is that their road? Yes. Okay. I'm south of this house. Okay. You said you had a question? I do have a question. Most of my questions were actually answered, but I just wanted to clarify because one of the notices I got said it was a studio, and the other said it was a writer's studio. So they're saying writer's studio, but it's not an ADU. Like it's not going to be rented out or anything, right? It's not a studio apartment. That's not the plan, right? Absolutely not. Okay. Just because I feel like that changes the essence of the story. I'm sorry. [transcription gap] I didn't clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear [transcription gap] clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear clear a writer's studio so they're saying writer's studio but it's not an adu like it's not going to be rented out or anything right it's not a studio apartment that's not the plan right okay just because i feel like that changes the essence of a neighborhood if you continue to let people build you know accessory dwelling units i feel like it changes the the whole ambiance of a neighborhood so i just want to clarify that and did say two different things so headlet this is r a 40 under the accessory apartment code an accessory apartment would be permitted correct so property in this over time yes they could convert it okay that's fine the other question that i had and this is it doesn't really have to do with this i don't think but i think this property is zoned for seasonal use does this affect that when i looked at the zoning map today it said it was zoned for seasonal use and i think that the original system so headlet's headlet's headlet's headlet's headlet's headlet's headlet's headlet's think that the original house was but i'm wondering if this affects that zoning right so the the zoning itself is residence 840 so it allows residences how it's classified um you know whether it's a 210 which is single family or i think a seasonal is a 260 i can't remember off the top of my head correct um that has to do with the improvements of the house and whether it's used year round or not so it's not really so much a land use question because residences are permitted it's still a single family residence whether it's a year-round or seasonal is um like a property kind of a point okay i wasn't sure that's not my thing so all right thank you very much thank you thank you mr cuddy just uh two questions related to uh this residence comments the uh existing single-family home is that a re uh seasonal residence or is it occupied year-round occupied year-round okay and the proposed writer studio is that proposed as seasonal or year-round no pretty much year-round yes

okay we're gonna know when's the the next meeting is everybody here you're not gonna be here the next meeting so it would have to be in the following week that would be the first meeting in yeah uh what's the date for august tether august the only meeting in august is the 28th august 28th i will be here for that so you're here right yeah so if the board what do you think about doing a reserve decision for august 20th we can talk about it you know if we want any more questions call them right yep yep reserve decision would you be i shouldn't say do you agree but i'm recommending we go to august 20th with a reserve decision august 20th 28th 28th 28th i'm sorry thank you vote please mr chairman i'm going to recruit cruise myself on this case okay thank you all right i'm going to move with the gentle a28 reserve decision second aye mr prashetta aye mr zaweski aye mr barnes oh you know the cues forget it mr hello hi can i vote aye so we're gonna reserve decision august 28th thank you thank you very much mr cuddy i'm no john steinbeck but i wrote my novel the living room you do excuse me i didn't hear all of it you said you know john steinberg i says i'm no john steinberg okay you wrote a book do you want me to do one last call for the first appeal of the night please okay um is there anyone here for appeal number 2025-02047 high view drive this was adjourned from june 12th of 2025. are you here sir for that no sir oh okay what are you here for anyway uh my name is george fondous i'm here reporting uh baroness for a detached garage you won already it was granted thank you august i missed the party i appreciate your time thank you um so what should we do should we move this to the next meeting or august 28th or do no no i'm talking about 47 high view or does the board want to make a decision on which one 47 high view drive the appeal that was adjourned from june 12th you should just put it over to the 28th see if anybody shows up the shed in the front yard yeah we gotta make a decision just do it do this they may make a move wait a minute we can we make a decision guys on this yeah i thought we did i've got it here heather can you confirm there was no request for an adjournment no i didn't so at the last meeting um which was june 12th of 2025 um the expediter we adjourned we adjourned it to this date which is july 10th they agreed i haven't heard from them since we're going to read it walk off so we're good yep make a motion we mark it off mark it off what no he's going to read it we do it we make right we act upon it that's what the motion is yeah okay yeah all right so with mr chairman of appeal number 2025-020 i move that the appeal of jeffrey mb salins and 47 high view drive waiting river suffolk county tax map number 600-49-3-17 residence b80 zoning for variances and or relief from town code chapter 301 29a 1a where existing shed is located in front yard not be granted and instead the shed be relocated out of the front yard in compliance with town code second please second all right mr porsche aye aye nay mr gazzello aye and i vote aye okay what do we have meetings uh we have we have minutes from june 12 of 2025. can i get a second second all in favor aye aye thank you um so the next meeting date is july 24th 2025. so moved all in favor motion to close motion to close thank you All in favor? Aye. Aye.