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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good luck to you. Good luck. Next, we have appeal number 2025-032, Bayview Epiconic LLC, 47 Bayside Avenue, Jamesport. Suffolk County tax map number 600-93-1-4, residents B40 zoning. An appeal of cheap building and storage. The property is currently under the property inspector's determination dated July 29th of 2025, which rescinded a letter pre-existing use issued October 13th, 2022 for use as a transient rental. This was adjourned from February 12th, 2026, and we did receive correspondence from the applicant's attorney today via email requesting to close the hearing and to reserve the decision for the April 9th meeting. Somebody moving? So moved. Second. Okay. Mr. Barnes. Aye. Mr. Porsche. Aye. Ms. Hueske. Aye. Ms. Yobel. Aye. And I vote aye. So, reserved decision April 9th. So, next, appeal number 2026-002, Maria Salguero, 178 Main Road, Riverhead, Suffolk County tax map number 600-85-2-2, rural Colorado zoning, to legalize amendment of addition to dwelling. Applicant requests variances and or relief from Town Code Chapter 301-65 where proposed building lot coverage is not available. Any questions? So, the building lot coverage is 10.7%, maximum allowed is 10%, where proposed floor area ratio, FAR, is 22.8%, maximum allowed is 10%, and where proposed front yard setback is 19 feet, minimum required is 50 feet. You're an attorney, sir? I'm the architect. You're an attorney. Architect. What's your name, sir? Please raise your right hand. I do solemnly swear and tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help your God. Yes, I do. Please state your name and address. Thank you. Thank you. State your name and address. Michael Sedano, architect. Address 90 Senex Avenue, Santa Mariches, New York, 11934. Go ahead. Okay, we're here for seeking relaxation in lot coverage. We're at 10.7% where the maximum allowed is 10%. We're also seeking floor area ratio relaxation from the 22.8% where the maximum allowed is 10%. And a front yard setback of 19% where the minimum allowed is 50%. The existing house is currently at 19.3% to the house, not the porch, which is an existing structure, so we're not expanding the house any closer than it currently is. That's an existing setback on the front. The lot coverage of 10.7% versus the original. The allowable of 10% I feel is minimal in keeping with the neighborhood. And the floor area ratio of 22.8% where the maximum is 10%, that's including porches. And if you don't include the porches and covered areas, it's more like 15.3%. So we feel that's in keeping with the neighborhood. And it's... The increase in lot coverage in the FAR do not create any visual physical impacts on adjoining parcels and reduce front yard setbacks, along with the existing development pattern in the neighborhood. I've got a question. On your application, on the second page, it says current use of property. It states residence. Yeah. Is it a single family resident, or what is it? He's going to convert it to... It's a two-family dwelling, which is allowable under the rural corridor. Is anyone living there right now? No, it's currently under construction. We have it for May, currently. Just to east of the property, there's a whole bunch of meters. Are they yours? Are they what? Are they yours? Meters? Yeah, like electric meters? I think... I don't know how many there are. There should be like two there. I think there's more than that. They're attached to the... They're attached to the... They're attached to the building. They're attached. He's going to get... I think he's only going to have two. One for... He originally jumped the gun and put in the three meters, and he's putting in two, one for each dwelling. That's what I'm saying. There's a lot of meters there. Yeah, he's got to remove them. We already told that.

Can I ask how many bedrooms in this house? Eight bedrooms. We have an eight-bedroom approved and installed set-top. It's a two-family. It's going to be converted to a two-family. What's being stored in the back? We have some aerials and that. It seems there's a lot of construction. He has his shop. He has his shop. He has a garage behind it underneath. You don't see it from the front, so it's underneath, and he has his work stuff back there. What type of business is he in? Construction. There's a lot of roofing trucks there. That's what he does. That's not a hub firm. Is it part of his business or what? I don't know. I'm not quite sure. Heather, under this zoning district, is it permissible to have residential with a construction business, or is it limited to professional offices? I believe it's limited to professional office, and I think it's especially permitted if it's a permitted use. I'd have to double-check the code. Even for a professional office? Yes, there are certain criteria that need to be met in rural corridor zoning to establish that. The two-family is permitted as of right. You do have to update your construction drawings and building permits.

Yes, especially permitted uses include professional offices, so medical doctors. This is not qualified as professional offices. That has to be within a quarter mile of Hamlet Center or Village Center, and then it goes on further to say professional offices of attorneys, architects, medical doctors, or dentists with conditions. Property has to be improved with a single-family residence. Professional office shall be within the building footprint of the single-family residence, and it has to have frontage along New York State 25 between Route 105 and the town boundary with the town of Southhold. So that's all by special permit, and it doesn't include a construction permit. I'm not sure that's a construction business. I'll be quite candid, Mr. Sedano. We've all visited the site, and I happen to go by there quite often. There's always trucks outside. I'm not convinced this is purely residential, and it's not going to be a business run out of there. I think he has one of his, he keeps his trucks in the back. The ones I see are always in the front. Well, he keeps one truck in the front with his sign on it for advertisement. He doesn't want people going there, because right now it's vacant, so he doesn't want people going there thinking no one's there and breaking in. Does he understand that he can't operate the business or have the business? I'll tell him tonight. Business address there if it's a two-family? Absolutely. I'll tell him tonight. So can I ask you one question? So on page, I guess it's page five, where the area variance considerations come inside there. The last question. Last question there, number five says, the difficulty was or was not self-created. And down here it says it was not self-created. I'm just trying to understand how we got there. I certainly agree with you. The front of that house has been on that same portion of the road the entire time, so that's not self-created. But how were the other two not self-created? Because I've lived here my whole life. This was all added on. It was upgraded. It looks far better, at least the main portion of the house. But this was all added on afterwards. How is that not self-created? Well, we did it with a permit. It's not that there was no permit on that. Okay. It was overlooked, to be honest with you. So I'm looking at a copy of the survey that was provided. And it appears to me the maximum impervious surface coverage is 25%. And when you look at the survey that you provided, it looks like a lot more than 25% coverage. Justin, are you picking this up? Just for the asphalt or because the rest is gravel back there?

No, wrong one. I didn't include the asphalt driveway in the FAR. Or are you talking lot of coverage? No. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'm putting up another picture and you can see behind what is the garage appears you describe it as gravel. No to the left to the right is an asphalt you can see the dark black. Big gray spot at the top on the left corner is that there's a lot of gravel. What type of gravel is it? Probably just RCA right now. Well it looks pretty compacted. Yeah he leaves his vehicles back there but it's it's. Heather did the building department do a calculation regarding impervious surface? It wasn't included on the denial letter. Okay and at minimum the driveway would have to be in the middle of the road. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Unlikely included correct? The asphalt driveway is on the survey on the right side. So while Heather's looking into that, you know, I'm not convinced that the building department shouldn't inspect and address the impervious surface coverage. Also, the meters, and correct me if I'm wrong, this matter was just in justice court, correct? This property? Not that I know of.

And the owner-applicant agreed to a very detailed conditional discharge. Not to... To perform any of the commercial activities on the site? At the... I'm not aware of that hearing. Actually, I'm looking at this survey. I don't mean to jump change it. He does have the asshole driveway there. It jumps. Yeah, I see that he does. But the remainder of the property... 1.6. Those improvements appear to be in furtherance of a business activity. And not a single family residence. He's trying to make it... I think you've RCA'd essentially almost the entire property. I don't think he was aware that he can't keep his vehicles back there, to be honest with you. Well, so... How can you keep business vehicles when you have a two-family residence? I don't know. You just kept them back there.

So, it appears to me... And perhaps the applicant can answer. I believe the conditional discharge may have been... I don't have the exact date. But I believe it was... Is it possible? October of 2024? On this property? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. That's when I first... He might have just first purchased it back then. Because he's only had it for a couple of years. We just started this in 2024. Well, you just represented to the Zoning Board of Appeals that the reason commercial activity was going on on the property was simply because you didn't... The applicant didn't want it to appear vacant. No, he left his truck in the front. One truck. One truck. One truck. He left it there in the front so people didn't think that no one's there. Because right now it's unoccupied.

Well, I will tell you, according to the aerials... That's your truck right there. Yeah. Even the aerial that is up there, that's more than one truck. The one in the front? No, there's several trucks in the back. No, I'm saying the one in the back. Those in the back, that's what I'm saying. The one in the front, he kept there. So people wouldn't go into the house. The ones in the back, he was just keeping them back there. All right, so I'll have to let him know he can't keep his trucks back there anymore. Well, it's quite possible there exists a violation of the court order and the conditional discharge. I'm not aware of any of that stuff. But I'll have to ask him. Well, you just described that. Court order? I wasn't aware of a court order. No. You just described the act. Activities on the property. Oh, okay, right. That conflict with the court order.

Does he have another address for his business? I'm not sure where. I know he has another residence in Riverhead, in Aquafog. Yeah, if you're talking about a house, I'm saying, does he have like a yard, a commercial yard, a storefront, a building, something where he keeps all these roofing trucks? I'm not quite sure. So I have additional information I would like to share with the zoning board. You stated that the property was vacant according to the court documents. Okay. Mandated conditions included the defendant agrees to refrain from renting the subject premises without first applying for and be issued a rental permit from the town of Riverhead. It's not rented right now. It's unoccupied. There's nothing in there. We're under construction. Okay. Well, according to the conditional discharge, it was being rented out without a rental permit. There's no way. That house was unoccupied. Okay. Okay. That house was dilapidated when we first got it. I'm sure everyone is aware of that condition of that house, the way it was. Well, you might want... There was no way anyone was living in that house. Well... We have the same residence. Come on.

Okay. When might the house be completed? He wants to finish it up as a two family. He wants to finish the back area of the house to make it a two family. So the front section, the main part of the house is done. It's done. What's done now? Well, we can't, we're stuck here because he wants to finish it up as a two-family. He wants to finish the back area of the house to make it a two-family. So the front section, the main part of the house, is done. I think he has all of his inspections on it. He's not here, right?

So now he's trying to switch it to a two-family. So the second family part hasn't been started yet.

So are you saying there's one kitchen in there? Right now, yeah. Okay. Have you been in the house recently? Yeah, it's beautiful. Okay. So he's going to add separate entrances and then add another kitchen? If we get approved, yes. Okay. Just a quick question. It's more out of curiosity. So on the drawing here, it says that the existing second floor balcony to be converted to have a little space existing with first floor deck to remain. Wasn't it all new construction, that back portion? Yes. I'm just curious as to why construct the balcony first and then change everything around? It was him. He changed his mind mid-flight, and he asked, hey, can we get the two-family status, and I'll just enclose that balcony area and keep the roof the way it is, just enclose it in, and he could put his bedroom in there and living room in that spot and get rid of the balcony. So everything's constructed. We just have to close it in. Okay. But it doesn't make sense. I agree with you. And you have the permit in hand for doing that? No. Okay. So that's going for... So is that how you... We'll get past you guys, then we'll get... Is that how you got to this point? You had the permit, you did the work, then decided to apply for this, and then something was found that you were no longer in compliance. Okay. At least I understand that. Thank you. And he did his driveway, and did the landscaping, and did all of that stuff. And then... That's how... Once we brought it to your attention, everything snowballed. Got it. So zoning board members who ask him, just got a highlight for you. That's not entirely accurate based upon the documents from Justice Court. Okay. Was that the prior order that had that? No, they did the documents from Justice Court. It's like a year ago. A year ago? This is me. My attorney. My attorney. My attorney. I'll be quite candid with you, sir, that the presence of so many commercial vehicles, both front and back, the absence of any indication on your behalf that his physical business is located in some other location, plus the, well, I'm uncomfortable with finding that this is purely a residential building. He's going to have to get his vehicles out of there. That's so much that. I'd like to know where his business is located. If it's not located there, well, where is it located? I don't know. If he just keeps... He keeps his vehicles at his residence. He owns multiple properties. Well, I mean, if he has a business, where is it located? I mean, where does he keep his equipment and stuff like that? You know, his office space. Does he run the business out of that house? Or does he run it out of someplace else? I mean, I appreciate your position that you're unaware of that. But like I say, I'm uncomfortable in finding that this is purely residential in the absence of something that somehow convinces me that this is purely residential. I think because he was under construction, he left a lot of the vehicles there. I'm not sure. I'm aware of that. But that coupled with the fact that, well, if that's not his business location, where is it? And I appreciate your position that you're unable to supply that. But I hope you appreciate my opinion. I mean, I'll make it aware that he can't have any vehicles there and can't run a business out of that location. I think you're missing my point. It's been... You've been unable to demonstrate to me, and it's not your fault, that this is not a business. He's not running a business out of there. Because first of all, well, if he's not running this business out of there, where is he running it out of? Do you follow what I'm saying? And I'm not saying I'm uncomfortable with finding that this is purely residential. Yeah. I'm going to request... Emery wants to look further. And she wants to do some investigation into the meters, the application for the meters. Lot coverage. Lot coverage. She wants to look into the property as far as impervious surfaces. She also wants to check out the status of what kind of vehicles and, you know, business trucks and equipment. It looks like there's some excavators on there. He's under construction. He was doing all the site work, so he left a lot of the vehicles there. Also, if you could indicate where his principal place of business is. Yeah. I'd appreciate it. I mean, I live in the area, and I've probably driven by that property a thousand times. There's never a time I've ever driven by that property that he didn't have a whole fleet of trucks to drive. That's just me looking out the window as I'm driving by. And I understand the position that he wants a presence of trucks there so people think it's... We understand that. Yeah, because I know the one in the front hardly moves, because I said that to him. I said, you know, you guys keep this truck there. Does anyone use it? He's like, no. I just leave it there. Objectively, I mean, I think you'll agree to objectively, it is consistent. It could be consistent with running a business there. And that's the problem we have. I understand. You don't need a tractor trailer there to advertise this business. You could put a sign out there if you wants to. Yeah, I got mine there. Yeah. I see he's got one hanging on the front of the house there. Will you be able to come back with the questions? Yeah. How much time are you going to need? Next year, if that works. Next year, when is? March 12th or March 26th. What's your pleasure? 12th or 26th? The sooner the better. Might be the 12th. The move we adjourned is to let you take March 12th. Second. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Take care of yourself. Mr. Barnes. Aye. Portia. Aye. Aye. Aye. And I vote aye. So that has been adjourned until March 12th. You ready for the next one? Yeah. So next appeal is appeal number 23. 2026-003 Marion Le Cicero, 253 Newton Avenue, Riverhead, Suffolk County Tax Map number 600-127-2-42, Residents A40 zoning for an addition to an accessory structure. Applicant requests variances and or relief from Town Code Chapter 301-9, where the proposed side yard setback is 1.8 feet and the minimum allowed is 20 feet. Aye. Does the reger right hand? I just saw him. I wish we were to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so I'll help you, darling. Thank you. Please state your name and address. Megan Carrick. Offices are at 206 Lincoln Street, Riverhead, New York. Thank you. I have a few additional cards that came. I think the mail has been a little delayed with the weather. I'm here tonight on behalf of our client, Marion Le Cicero. We're proposing a small addition to her existing accessory garage. As part of the project, she plans to convert the garage into a living space. The addition itself is 12 feet by 18.2 feet. And part of that includes a covered entry, which you can see on the survey that was submitted. We're here this evening because the addition expands an existing non-conforming side yard setback. That being said, we don't believe this proposal will have a negative impact on the neighborhood. There are several properties in the area where the accessory structures are located in similar positions in the side yard. The existing garage already has a CO. The current setbacks and the proposed addition remains well beyond the rear line of the house. It's also worth mentioning that the garage sits directly alongside the neighbor's accessory garage to the north. I think the address is 259 Newton. So it's not creating a new condition along the side yard property line. Overall, we feel that it's a modest improvement to an existing structure that's consistent with the surrounding neighborhood. I'm happy to answer any questions you guys might have. So there's a shed located. On the property that's too close to the property line. And unfortunately, the building department failed to require you to address the impermitted surface coverage. Yes, I believe that an updated survey had been submitted. I do have the lot coverage calculations on the survey here. Yeah, so Marissa had actually reached. Out to the surveyor. And he just sent her the updated survey yesterday. Gotcha. With the calculations. And she made copies. I provided them to the board and council. Okay. The garage addition is going over part of the existing driveway that's there. So it shouldn't be too much of an impervious surface increase there. They're at 44.5% with the addition. They're going to 46.4%. That's what I'm seeing. So the building department is going to have to issue a new denial letter. And you're going to have to repost the property. Because the impervious surface has to be addressed on the notice. And the shed has to be addressed. They could relocate the shed. Yeah, I believe we would be happy with relocating the shed. So maybe as part of that process. Relocate. The shed. Okay.

So if the zoning board members agree for those reasons. It's going to be referred back to the building department. And this would be on the next hearing. The deadline for legal notices for the March 12th meeting was today. But you could easily make the March 26th meeting. March 26th meeting. Okay. Okay.

That's what's going on. That's what's going on. That's what's going on. Once I get the updated denial letter from building, he can probably also put a note on there that you're going to just put the shed in a conforming location. I can re-notice. Okay, sounds good.

So, just to be clear, you did submit the updated impervious surface? Correct. We are going to refer that plan back to building, Heather, with a note. You can contact Heather regarding the plans for the shed. Because if you're going to move it, you will not need relief for that. If you don't, we're going to have to add that to the amended relief. So, you have Heather's contact information? Yes, I do have it. Okay. So, we'll guide you through all of that. Just contact her. Really, the issue... I'll reach out to Bob Mueller in the building department tomorrow. Perfect. Okay. So... We will... If we move the shed, then we will be back on the next hearing to review impervious surface along with the 1.8 foot side yard setback. Yeah, for March 26th. Yes. And while I'm here, is there any additional comments that we should address? Do we need a picture of the shed moved or anything like that? Do we need a picture of the shed moved or anything to that effect? No, I think just a proposed new location is fine. Yeah. Because then I guess it will go through the building department. Yeah. And it's the shed under 144 square feet. So, it's five feet off the property line is all you need. Okay. Yeah, it looks like it's... Who's reading it? We don't have anything in hand. All right. So, is it just a motion to move this? Yeah. So, appeal number 2026-003 would be moved to March 26th. So, Mr. Chairman... Don't move. Okay. There we go. Sorry. Does somebody else want to speak? It was Leroy. That was Leroy. Oh, Leroy. Second. Nice. Second. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. So, it's moved to March 26th. Thank you very much. Thank you.

Next appeal is 2026-004, Richard Cugini, 467 Peconic Bay Boulevard, Riverhead, Suffolk County Tax Mountain. Number 600-87-1-5, Residence B40 Zoning, Demolition and Rebuild of Single Family Residence. Applicant requests, variances, and a relief from Town Code Chapter 301-17, where proposed front yard setback is 27.5 feet, maximum allowed is 50 feet, and where proposed impervious surface is 31.3%, maximum allowed is 15%. Good evening. My name is Jack Roseberry. I'm an architect. I'll raise my right hand. No, anyway, we're going to swear you in. Come on. I know that's why. You idiot. I do solemnly swear to tell the truth, to hold truth, and not to put the truth to help your God. I do. Please state your name and act. Jack Roseberry. I'm an architect. I'm an architect. I'm Richard Cugini. Roseberry Architectural Studio. We're the home office of 1029 Sepp Avenue in Medford. This is a nice place. I'm kind of like, actually, you can see the podium here. I do have a presentation. I can submit. I brought along for the ride. I wasn't quite sure how you were doing the camera thing there. Would you like it on the camera? No, no. They can put it on the camera. They can put the, if you want. You can put the, there's floor plans, elevations, there's pictures. Is this the one we already have? Is this the one we already have? I think so. You should have the floor plans and the elevations, yes. You should have the site plan, and I brought in, there's other things I bring in supporting documentation. I tend to be thorough. Can you see it from there? Yeah, I can see it. Yeah, we all have to. Yeah, no, I got that part. Okay. This is for a proposed residence located at 467 Peconic Bay Boulevard in Riverhead, which is also known as, you could say, an aqua bog in that region. A proposed project is a construct of one-story residence, 44 by 32, a regular with three bedrooms, front yard covered deck, a rear yard open deck with a... This requires front yard setbacks from Bay Avenue, which the house is facing, 27.5 feet proposed. Side street setback from Peconic Bay Boulevard, 16.1 feet proposed. We have an impervious surface area variance, 40.1%. The existing one-story residence on the property will be removed as part of the application. The house will be moved back approximately two feet, the new house, from the existing residence, which will increase the setback to 25. 9 to 27.5 feet, which enables the larger footprint without encroaching on the previous setback, side yard setbacks from the existing house construction. The existing, the driveway leading to the pool house and the garage in the rear of the residence will remain as existing, including the pool to the rear. The existing cesspool will be removed by new construction, and a new sanitary system will be installed in the rear yard towards the northeast corner of the property. The existing driveway on Bay Avenue... will be refurbished and is to remain. We're going to install drainage according to current standards. New construction will limit disturbance to the areas west of the driveway. In my presentation package I submitted, I included photographs of the surrounding homes in the area. They were all buried in snow. The residence is located at the entrance to the Aqaba Beachfront Community, a terrace community, which contains the development of smaller residences and bungalows. Some of them seasonal, and a small motel. Development in this area dates back prior to 1962. Through the years, single family residential development has developed to the largest scale structures, many of them two stories, which has given the development more permanence. I've included in my presentation package very recent snowy photos of the surrounding area, and I've included Suffolk GIS maps that will give a development timeline for that area. For the purposes of setback and area variance considerations, I offer the following statements. This development will not have an increased impact on the surrounding neighborhood, as it is in line with the original development of the neighborhood. The application for new residents to replace the existing increases the front yard setback to 27.5 feet and matches the existing north or south property line setbacks. The building height will be slightly higher than the existing residence due to the requirements of the 86-foot zone, which this residence is in. The variance is quite significant. The building height is quite significant. The building height is quite significant. The building height is quite significant. The variance can be considered substantial only if it relates to the current zoning, but this matches the development of the Akebak community and does not decrease the front yard setback on Bay Avenue. The benefit that we're asking for cannot be achieved by alternate means, as it would require massive changes to the configuration of the property and still would require similar variances due to the size of the lot in the existing zoning. The new design of the new residence will only increase the impact of the variance and affect the existing property. Variance of sort will not cause an adverse impact on the environment. Construction of new residence will be required to install a new innovative sanitary treatment system, thus reducing the residence impact on the local groundwater system. The residence will be raised in elevation to meet the flood elevation guidelines, including the new regulations regarding increased freeboard height, and that will be followed in the application. This is also due to hydraulic This is also due to hydraulic This is also due to hydraulic requirements, the level of the sanitary system. There will be very limited storage on the crawl space. The existing residence did have a basement and had issues with the groundwater flooding into it. The removal of this basement and removal of the pump system will have some benefits to the groundwater. The new residence will follow the requirements of the New York State Energy Code, so the energy usage may be reduced. The difficulty is considered self-created because I've been told that all construction would be considered self-created. The difficulty is considered self-created because I've been told that all construction would be considered self-created. The difficulty is considered self-created. The difficulty is considered self-created. We are trying to match this closely with the setbacks and impacts of the existing residence while bringing new residence into conformance with the current standards. The benefit of having new residence at the gateway to the neighborhood will benefit the local area in general. This is the very entrance of the Aqaba community. The sign is right in front there. My presentation package I submitted at the start of this presentation includes a series of Suffolk GIS photos of various stages of the Development Act in this area. This is publicly available information. It dates back to 1962 as an aerial. It includes 1984, 2001, and 2023 aerial photographs. I've also submitted pictures of the surrounding property and included pictures of the existing yard from a time when snow was unknown. I have also included narrative in my presentation in the packet. With that in mind, and I'm sorry, I went probably a little faster than I should have, I am ready to answer any questions you may have. questions you may have your client snowbirds i'm sorry playing snowbirds my client they're no i think they're they they have a permanent residence in queens uh their ideas now they haven't shoveled the walk yet no but then again um the neighbor to the east has a shovel to walk the neighbor to the north has a shovel to walk the the no he was saying it you can see it's not not accurate yeah no they're they're not there now you said they're doing away with the basement they're doing away with the basement yeah i presume that with superstorm sandy they had a big problem they according to them it got to the it got to the house but didn't go in the house but the you know with the new with the new fema regulations you have to be cognizant of the possibility of a higher flood than sandy did you have additional copies of your presentation i actually concluded in my presentation packet if you want to have my copy you can have it as well do any of the board members want to look through this i did give the one copy yeah i don't have that that's our full presentation um yeah yeah you want to see it adam sure it's fine

so mr rosemary um with respect to your answer and i truly appreciate this was is this self-created uh issue any construction i was i had a zoning board chairman in town of babylon years ago barking at me that long construction is a self-created difficulty it's not something we've crew the zoning the zoning creates a difficulty okay we're building we so therefore we're building and creating yourself we're self-creating that difficulty but it does not the law does state it does not it does not preclude the board of appeals from making an approval it's just stating a stating what i think is a problem uh we're creating a self-created difficulty building a new house it is what it is but it doesn't preclude you from giving us an approval based upon that yep no i'm not disagreeing with that what i wanted to just ask you the when you talked about bringing uh the residents in conformance with current standards so it's the elevation elevation the septic the septic the elevation of the septic and the energy code and of course it's not 2025 the code because i got it in on time and they'll let me do under 2020 code but that's the it's the most current sample standards at the point of application okay i mean i may make them put different switches in anyway but that's me do we uh receive suffolk county health department approval we have we're up to that point uh we just i made the last submission about two weeks ago i'm waiting on them to give me a file approval line um do you need to ec or cac approval i i've i've applied i'm waiting for that jurisdictional letter i have not seen it back i know you provided me with a copy of your dec application i made the application about three weeks ago i have not heard back from them yet they said two to three weeks but you know that was dec dec and i don't know if um cac would be required i have what's cac conservation advisory council we're 200 we're across the street 235 feet from a tidal wetlands or tidal creek it's not a wet lake you might not need it if you get the letter of nj from the dec i'm hoping to have it any time now we'll check with greg bergman he's um the liaison to that board okay all right i got no problem with this all right i got it here all right appeal number two two zero two six dash double oh four i move the appeal of richard 467 iconic bake boulevard aqua park setm number 600-87-1-5 residents b40 dish rb-40 zoning for variances and or relief from town code chapter was 3-0-1-17 with proposed front front yard set setback is 25 27.5 feet maximum allowed is 50 feet and we propose impervious surfaces there 31.3 percent max allowed is 15 be approved subject to schd dec and if applicable chc approval but this in accordance with the apple also in accordance with the application sketches what amendments did too if any is filed with the building inspector second hi mr barnes hi porsche all right all right hi so the variance has been grounded good luck thank you

um last appeal of the evening appeal number 2026-005 charles aegis 167 pier avenue and uh james port southern county tax map number 600. i remind you you're still on the road okay 600-8-2-12.7 residents a40 zoning detached three-car garage applicant request variances and a relief from town code chapter 301-9a1a where proposed detached garage in the front yard where accessory structures are not permitted in a front yard and just for the record i did receive correspondence on this application we received an email from julia skillies sorry i mispronounced her name on wednesday february 25th opposition and then we also have an application from the municipal municipal department also received an additional letter from the neighbor at 173 Jason again sorry about the mispronunciation in support of the application.

For the record just state your name and address again all right so we can remember. Yes it's still Carrick. Megan Carrick and offices are at 206 Lincoln Street Riverhead New York. Thank you. I'm now here on behalf of our client Charles August who is seeking to approve to get approval to construct a detached garage in his front yard. We placed the garage in a location that works with the existing site conditions including the placement of the house, the front door, and the natural contours of the land. The garage has been designed to fit into the existing hill on the property which will help blend it into the site and minimize its visual impact so you still see the house before you see the garage. Thank you. Before we begin the process Charles reached out to his neighbors. He was able to contact some of them to inform his plans and ensure that they were comfortable with the project. Specifically his neighbor at 173 Pier Avenue who has a similar situation with his detached garage located in his own front yard. At that time we received this neighbor's support and as Heather said I had received that letter of support. I have additional copies here if you'd like to see it. Send me out there. the abutting neighbor to the rear of the property who operates the farm he expressed support for the project and mentioned that an existing shed currently encroaches on his property the shed was there when my client brought bought the property and we do intend on moving this to a conforming location lastly we don't think the project should have any adverse effects on the environment as you'll see in our site plan we are planning to collect all of our roof runoff with a dry well i'm happy to answer any questions okay you mentioned that the other neighbor has a similar yes the one at 173 pier avenue they have a three-car garage in their front yard as well similarly located same location uh it's it's a similar it's a completely different property our property is pretty unique with the existing location it's also the front yard yes did he get a variance for that i i do not know unfortunately so i guess my question is uh this is a whole new garage it's three-car garage they have a two-car garage with the house now right yes and my gosh the new driveway that you're proposing for the new garage is a huge and then there's another driveway over here i would think that garage would be better located if it was closer to the other driveway so we did consider that and we thought that this was a nice place for the garage because it was not a budding um the only neighbor really on this road that would be directly impacted at 173 pier avenue um so we we were planning on keeping it far away from that location um he plans on having this garage really just as a fun tinkering garage he has a few cars of his own he's retired and enjoying that aspect of his life me too yes he is what did you state the plan for this garage is um just just a storage garage with plans to work on his cars his personal cars and what's proposed for the upstairs you have an awful lot of windows i know that is really for the looks of the structure since it's built into the hill um and access to the house from there right now it is just for uh dry use storage there's no water lines or anything proposed to the structure why couldn't you locate this garage structure adjacent to the existing driveway eliminating the requirement for two curb cuts two driveways on a lot used for single family residents the front yard setback that we would then be going for over there would be decreased significantly due to the way that the lot is so we're trying to keep the garage off of the property even even further off of the front property line further than if it was over there i'm not following that so if you look at the survey the way that the property kind of curves around the front of the house if we were to propose the garage on that side in the front yard the front yard would be decreased even more right now front yard the rear yard so he has that set up right now with uh a lot of pre-existing site conditions that we were hoping to not affect sorry if i'm not using aerial there aren't site conditions they would seriously affect jason

oh he's not in is he dead he's not that was a case of oh yeah would we be able to use the camera on the ceiling thank you by the way i guess do looks like south of the house there's something enclosed in a wire fence what is that anyway you see that just south of the house oh just south of the house um i believe he has solar panels over there some of that is garden am i correct yeah there's a pre-existing fence in garden which i'm going to be okay okay

! come on so what this aerial depicts is a near map photo of the property and what's superimposed is a large square box basically indicating that a garage could fit right there so i and alleviating the need because under the law with the criteria for the zoning board uh is to minimize variances requested so that would alleviate the quote accessory structure in the front yard and it would also remove two driveways for one single family residence thank you can i speak it just has to be sworn in i'll be right here tell me swear to tell truth the whole truth and the above nothing but the truth she'll help me god i do please state your name and address charles ages 167 pier avenue james fort new york go ahead so i bought the house a year ago february i wasn't aware of the property the shed being on the from off the property like i'm gonna square that right away i want to take care of that for the neighbor uh and to be in code I came from a house in Shoreham. I lived in Brookhaven my entire life. It's my first year at Riverhead. And I've been, the house, it was a nice big piece of property, almost two acres, a little shy. I came from a house with a big backyard patio, a pool, a hot tub, fire pits, all kinds of stuff, to a yard that's beautiful. Lovely area, but up to a farm, but there was nothing back there. So I had already put in a permit, and I'm already in the middle of building. I built a deck back there. I put in a fire pit right in the area that you're showing that. I have steps going out to it. And when I looked about, I thought about putting it back there, but the way that it's a cul-de-sac, it's a private road, it's a cul-de-sac, and my existing driveway, I would have had to widen it, and it would have been very difficult to turn in and out to get to that garage, if I wanted to put it back there. Instead of widening the garage, you're proposing, strike that, rather, widening the driveway. You're proposing to construct a second, almost, whole new driveway. Does that make sense? There's a lot of property, and I specifically chose this site here because I can cut it into the hill. All that will be sticking out will be the top part of it. I understand there's another driveway, but it is off the private cul-de-sac. It's not off the road. And it's on the property that I have, so I didn't think it was going to be, you know, I understand I needed a variance for it. But when I spoke to Chuck and Megan about it, they explained everything, how the code works, and for the way I'm setting up my yard, the backyard is going to have a pool in it, as well. I'm in the middle of getting a permit for that. So, I'm trying to develop the backyard into an area that I can use to have my grandkids come, and my family come, and enjoy it. And that's why I wanted to put, and I'm a car enthusiast, as Megan mentioned, I have multiple cars now. I like to work on cars. a hobby I just retired and the garage that came with the house that's attached to the house is just it's not big enough I stuff tons of stuff in their pack and I have no room to operate and so I one of the reasons why I moved out what this land was because I had so much property so I'm just trying to to you know utilize it and have what I what I'd like to have in my remaining years on this earth I believe this is character I mentioned it your neighbor I think it's 173 you said analogous not an old voice but kind of equal of what you want to do very very similar he just bought the house the house was owned by somebody else when I first moved in the chips have just purchased recently and it's a newer home than mine it's right at the base of the corner of the house and it's a new home and it's right at the base of the corner of the house and he's got a big cul-de-sac and his driveway goes straight up the houses to the left and then it's just a big driveway and then directly across the driveway is this four car garage but his his garage is on the street side so to speak like you want to put yours yes structure as well anybody else want to be heard on this You have to come up to the podium and be sworn in. Should I do that now? Are you finished? Are you finished? Yes. All right, go ahead.

Are you both going to speak? Yeah. Okay, thank you. As always, we're going to tell truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth. So I hope you got it. Please state your name and address. Julia Scalise, and we are directly across on Pierre Avenue. What is your name, sir? Anthony Scalise. Thank you. So we don't have a formal address there. It's still raw land that we bought a couple years back. I'm sorry? We had Gillette. Yeah, so it's directly across. So the property that they're discussing, 173, is nothing like what they're proposing here. He has a property where you're looking at the house, and the four-car garage is at the corner of the property. This is you're looking at the house, and this garage would be directly across from the house that Robert Stromsky, as well. So this is one of the things that we're going to build for us. So I haven't met our new neighbors. We would love to come to a resolution with them and come up with something that we'd both be happy with. But the reason that we came tonight is that I feel that it will impede on our property value. And quite frankly, we bought this lot. You have to turn off of Pierre Avenue. It's bucolic. It's beautiful. There's lots of grass. There's big lawns. There's lots of lawns. And the last thing I thought was we're going to have another Brooklyn situation where we have a building sitting on the front lawn. So it's a beautiful property, and there's plenty of spots that I think would be a better option for a site for a garage that would be less impactful for us. So it appears that it's a little too close to the road. And again, our property is directly across from where that property is. And again, it's a little too close to the road. And again, it's a little too close to the road. And again, it's a little too close to the road. And again, it's a little too close to the road. And again, it's a little too close to the road. And again, it's a little too close to the road. And again, it's a little too close to the road. And again, it's a little too close to the road. And again, it's a little too close to the road. would be so that my front door would be looking at this garage um they said there's a hill there it's a very slight um we've all been there yeah it's not something that would you know hide the garage from sight and again um it would be an eyesore for us uh so just looking you know knowing the property very well we've owned it for several years um it seems like there's a lot of other places that that could go that would be less impactful for us and still have you know a great situation for them as well um currently along that uh strip along that fence um the back fence there's an rv that i'm assuming is going to be part of this you know reason for this garage so you know i just don't love the idea of this big uh paved area right in front of our house with an rv in front of it and a garage it's just not the reason we bought this piece of property and and just want to keep it um to where they're happy and they're enjoying it but that also where we don't have to look at uh you know a garage and a paved driveway right across from us you want to add anything okay pretty simple i mean we bought the property because we could only put one structure on the two acres so we kind of want to keep it where it's very spacious and open i feel like having the garage here we can't lose that immediately right next door um that's the main reason why we're opposed how close is your house going to be do that setback is 50 feet so we're really you know 50 feet off of our shared driveway there's no house there currently yeah i know but you guys are going to be back 50 feet also um well whatever the required setback is there's that garage is 59 back right yes so between the street etc you're over 120 feet probably away from it

anyone here oh you have to you only have to come up

first of all nice to meet you nice to meet you sorry under these circumstances it's okay i didn't know who owned the property valerie goode sold the property and told me that it was purchased all i've seen there so far are those generators that are sitting heaters yeah are they all here yeah sorry there was three of them there i think they pulled one out the other day um there's a lot of brush in the front i wasn't sure what was going to be done there but again it's at the very beginning when you make the turn we're not putting a paved driveway in it's going to be probably gravel and it is going to be set back closest to the house um and i'm it's going to be half buried under the ground all you're going to really see sticking out is the top floor piece of the situation okay so the back our backyard's going to be facing your house so we want to put something there we want to have like a nice open field there's a field there we want to keep that open so that's right there that's that's what it is if that wasn't right i mean you could put it against the other side of something we don't want i want to understand understand understand that you want space for it. I just think there's a much better place that you could probably put that. If I put up a big structure right along there and put my cars in there, and then you're looking at it, I think you'd feel the same way. Because there's other places you could put it. I think there is. Like I explained, I'm doing a lot of work in the backyard already. I put a pool in. I put a lot of... Excuse me. So the house that hasn't been built yet, is that also on two acres? It's on two acres. And if the house is across the street, what would you look at? If you looked out of your house, where would you be looking directly? Because there's a curve there. I mean, are you looking at the house? His house is a little bit further up the road. So if you follow up that shared asphalt driveway, he's a little bit further up. Our house would be a little bit further onto Pier Avenue. So it would be facing that garage. This is Pier. So here's the shared driveway. His is kind of towards the back of the property. We're on the front side of that. Because the front of our property is along Pier Avenue. Along this part. It's like 200 feet along Pier Avenue. Like 500 feet along Pier Avenue. Oh, is it? Okay. So ours is further down the driveway.

Sir. Homeowner. I just don't understand. I didn't hear the... Or I didn't understand the argument. Why can't you just put the garage to the right when you're coming up your driveway? You got like a big piece of property there. You can't just... Expand your driveway and put the garage right to the right? So can you go closer to the podium with a microphone? You're not getting picked up on the mic. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just got done constructing a fire pit right in that exact area because it was part of my original proposal for the backyard. What kind of fire pit are we talking about? It's an in-ground. I have bluestone pavers out to it. I have bluestone pavers around the entire... It's about, I guess, 14 by 14. It's a round. It's a complete structure. It's all part. I went through Owen Brothers doing all of my work on this project and it's been very expensive. And it provided more privacy in that back area. That's why I used that area for that. How close is it to the driveway? It's way up there. Isn't it at the top of the picture? On the right circle? It's not there. I don't know when that picture was taken. So that was or is a fire pit. You're not talking about that, right? That was a fire pit he had put in. It's huge. It's that... You could burn a tree in there. Could you point to where it is? Bring that picture back, please. How about that satellite image? I'd like the picture, please. Sure.

Could you point to where the fire pit is? Right there. I got you. All right. All right. So can I just ask you a question? Because there's a portion of this that just kind of bothers me. With the question of the difficulty was or was not self-created. So you're claiming it was not self-created because the difficulty arises from the existing site conditions on the property. You have close to two acres of property, right? The thing that concerns me the most about this is I can't find any good reason other than you didn't fully plan for what you were doing. You wanted a garage. But then it came too late. Because you already did some other work. And I'm really concerned about the precedent that this starts. Because what happens when the next person comes to us and says, well, you know, I got two acres of property, but I decided to do this. So now I want another variance. We're not dealing with an eighth of an acre lot than somewhere over in Shoreham or someplace like that. I just personally, I can't get behind this. You know, when I bought the house, it's in the big... Mr. Locanio, the previous owner, put the house kind of in the middle of the two acres. And so while there is room in the back, there's plenty of room in the front. I was trying to, you know, there was a service driveway already existing there. I don't know if it's legal or not. It's not paved. It's just there's gates that so that, you know, I guess the landscapers or whoever could get in the back. So I kind of used that driveway. That's where the RV is parked right now. And it just made sense to me that that would be a better place to put it. And because of the hill was there. I could. I could bury it mostly into the hill and just have the top part sticking out. And it would look good. How about moving it down where the garden is, the garage? Further into the back, you're saying? Well, your driveway is coming down. Instead of letting it come down and once it gets down where the garden area, that would be the garage. As long as it's off the side yard, you know, down there, there's a lot. But the property here. You'd have to agree with Mr. Zawieski's comments here. So on the survey you provided, it did not show any of the fire pit. It's all just been constructed in the last month, two months. It's all part of the permit that I already had on file. Well, it's not on the survey. Also, you talked about, well, it would be difficult to relocate the garage. It's penciled in up there because you couldn't have a pool You have plenty of room directly behind the house to have a big pool a patio

Andrew a pool that's three times the size of the house. I Just have another question. Why would you put the fire pit by by the driveway not your backyard? Well Owen brothers It's going to be putting some trees in there and some nicer want to keep it closer to the house So you didn't have to walk? From the way in the backyard closer to up by the deck and get to the house to the bathroom and everything like that So that's the way they conceptually designed it. I Questioned the same thing. It's actually the high point of the art and when you're sitting around you're looking out over the farm It kind of made sense to put it there I

Have a picture of this fire pit will you

I Just want to set precedent I think the guy down the street Already set precedent for us The one down the street already has this

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one What's the base out of this big big? What's the black is that asphalt now? No it's some port cement and now it's blue ice blue stone That one big square on the eight the fire pit that ain't one big piece of blue stone. No, no, it's pieces Yeah, I brought it together You know the pattern They don't like they got seems to me in this picture I guess they do that may have been taken this picture may have been taken before they put the blue ice down. I'm sorry That's that's cement right there slim. I don't realize it on top. I don't think I have it. It's no they have to have

Very pretty Yeah, I'm trying to do everything very nice again, I Never met you. I didn't know what the intentions were the property over there didn't know you were gonna put the house backwards You know, I'm trying to make it as aesthetically pleasing as possible and I just Did the cul-de-sac down at the end where my driveway currently is? Would be difficult to get in and out of another driveway at night from that area. That's the problem now. I put this in so So that's that's one of the problems are trying to move

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I HAVE ANOTHER PICTURE WITH IT. THE PREVIOUS ONE IS IN LINE WITH THE HOUSE. SO IT'S NOT A VARIANT. CORRECT. I BELIEVE SOMEONE HAD ASKED IF 173 PURIE AVENUE EVER RECEIVED A VARIANT. SO THE WAY THEIR GARAGE WAS CONSTRUCTED IT WAS IN LINE WITH THE HOUSE SO THEY JUST GOT A CO FOR IT. IT IS A FOUR CAR GARAGE AND IT'S ON THE CO AS A FOUR CAR GARAGE SO THE SIZE IS CORRECT BUT IT'S IN LINE WITH THE HOUSE. I WILL SAY THAT THIS LOT BASED ON THE DEFINITION OF FRONT LINE OF THE HOUSE IT'S TAKEN FROM PIERRE AVENUE AND IT GOES TO THE CLOSEST POINT OF THE STRUCTURE WHICH IS I GUESS THAT'S THE NORTH EASTERN PORTION OF THE HOUSE SO LIKE YOUR FRONT YARD IS ACTUALLY EVERYTHING FORWARD. SO EVEN IF YOU WERE TO MOVE THE GARAGE BACK TO BE IN LINE WITH THE HOUSE I THINK IT'S STILL TECHNICALLY BY DEFINITION CONSTANTLY IN LINE WITH THE SO THAT'S THE BASIC. SO IF YOU WERE TO MOVE THE HOUSE BACK TO BE IN LINE WITH THE FOUR CAR GARAGE IT WOULD TAKE THE FOUR CARS TO MOVE IN THE FRONT YARD. SO HEATHER IF THEY RELOCATED THE GARAGE NEXT TO THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE FRONT YARD VARIANCE CORRECT? NO. WOULD IT REQUIRE VARIANCE UNDER THAT TERM WHERE THE WIRE FENCE GARDEN AREA IS? BECAUSE IF WE TAKE PIERRE AVENUE that front corner. It technically would be behind the front line of the house, which might alleviate the neighbor's concerns, but by code, it would still be in the front yard. It's a unique lot, and unfortunately, the subdivision, when we researched it, didn't have designated yards, so we have to go by the definition of town code. And the way that the house was constructed on an angle, it just makes the front yard unusually large. And quite honestly, the driveway and the parking pad is tremendous, what you're proposing, compared to your existing driveway, which you already have a two-car garage. And that's something that we can edit. The driveway. Like Charlie was saying, it is difficult to get around this cul-de-sac and in and out of the existing driveway. We would have to adjust the curb cut of that driveway to make it an easier... It doesn't seem like a hardship compared to the curb cut you're proposing and all the ask for for that extremely large-scale driveway and parking pad. So, you're not only proposing a garage in the front yard, you're also it appears to propose significant parking of vehicles, whether it's the RV or the collector vehicles, based upon what you're depicting. I understand that. It looks large. And we can adjust the driveway if that is the main concern here, but I don't... It's conceptual. I said the same thing when I first saw it. I said it's definitely conceptual. For getting in and out of the garage. I can easily see where you're going. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to get in and out of the garage. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. 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Back to a proposal where we were kind of making it parallel to it. And that brings that back further from the front yard. No reason to put it in the front yard. Like this. Right here. Can you do that? I don't know. I don't know what to say. What's behind that? It would be behind the front line. We can confirm that. Behind the front line of the house, which is the front north. Yeah. Yeah. Then you're. It would need a variance. I don't know. Hold on. You want to repeat that? She's. It's. Go ahead. Are you saying you would be more interested in granting relief if the garage was behind the front northeast corner of the house? Yes. So like in this area. Come up and point. The issue is, is that when you use a definition and you go from point to point, they're saying you draw a parallel line and then all of this is the front yard. So even though on a normal. A lot. Anything beyond this front line would be considered out of the front yard because of the way the lot shaped even behind the front line of the house is technically partially in the front yard. I think that's a reasonable combination. Could you do that? Would he do that? I just want to make sure that he's clear on what we're asking. So that would be saying like we drew a line from, I'm just going to take this roughly from this corner and the garage would have to be beyond in here. That's correct. That would eliminate the relief. Okay. Did you do that? Did you live with that? Yeah. I mean, I have solar panels that I just put in there as well, which I did permit. It's easy to take out the plant. Would you live with that? You know, the podium or the table, that's not a spot. Sorry. I'm sorry. Yeah. I said, you heard me, but I just put solar panels in that area to the right, a bunch of right to the garden. But we can look at seeing if we can move it back and tells me the garden's got a couple of really beautiful peach trees in it. And I got a lot of peaches last year. It was very. Yeah. It was really nice. And I guess I'd have to wind up tearing those out. Transplanting them. I mean, I'll go with that. I'll go with it. All right. You'll go with it? Yes. I'll go with it. How would you, the neighbors, feel about that? So I wasn't exactly clear where they said they would be putting it. So the front line of the house, right? You said it would have to be behind. Let's use that. This would be the one that we have. Sure. The garage on it. I see. So you will be significantly behind the front facade of the house. You would increase that back. Which this is technically not needing a variance at this point, correct? Yeah. So if you get it behind that imaginary line for your house to have it tucked away versus having it in front of the house. Can you live with that? Probably. Yeah. Okay. And judge, I think we got to make a normal driveway. Right? Of course. I won't over exaggerate. I apologize. The driveway now is big. It's almost like a parking lot. I wasn't thinking about the driveway. The driveway. Is the driveway a violation? No. No. So what's the big deal with the driveway? Let's just give it a little bit of a go. You're in that big area. Like 15 cars there. It's not a violation. Let him do it. And it wasn't Charlie's intention to have a driveway that large anyhow. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. have to come back in front of the board. Correct. You could withdraw the application. I mean, if you wanted to do it exactly in line with the House, you would still need the relief pursuant to that definition, but it would be significantly less in terms of impacts. So per se, we came through with designing this and... No. If he can withdraw the application, it's no violation. There's no violation, right? We don't have any jurisdiction over it. If it's legit, we have no jurisdiction over it. Okay. That's fine. May I make a suggestion, Megan? Sorry, Leroy has a... Would you like to discuss this? Megan, can I make a suggestion? How are you? I'm good. How are you? Could you draw a draft of the layout and if planning staff sees that it doesn't need a variance, then we're good. Then withdraw the application after you get your building permit. Yeah, rather do it right now. Do you agree with me? Good suggestion. Yeah, that's a great suggestion. I believe that's the way we're going to go with it. Thank you, Leroy. Good. All right, you got it.

Okay, but to the judge's point, if you withdraw your application and redesign it such that the garage is not in the front yard, you will not have to come back to the Zoning Board of Appeals. Correct, but I would like to wait to withdraw the application if that's okay. If they end up, like, trying to get it more in line with the house, even though, again, on a standard lot, it would be in the side yard because of the way the slot is shaped, they would still require relief. How long are you going to take? How long are you going to need? We're telling you, if you put it in the backyard, we're going to grant it. I really just would like to speak to my client. A few days would be great. How long would you need? Give me a week. I'll give you two. Okay, sounds great. So, March 12th. I'll make a move and return it to that thing. Thank you, everyone. Do you have to change the posting or anything? If you're coming back before us, do we have record? No. If they're still coming back for the same relief, they don't need to change it. We're announcing the adjournment. The relief is the front yard. Okay. You guys understand that we're going to put conditions on it. You can't rent the garage out. There can't be people living up there. There can't be bathrooms and kitchens and all that kind of stuff. If they withdraw, we're out of it. We're out of it. All right. I'll adjourn for two weeks. I'll make a motion. So, anybody who's second? Second. Mr. Barnes. Aye. Macheta. Aye. Seleski. Aye. Skazilla. Aye. So, we're adjourning it. Thank you. I just wanted to say one other thing. Heather had opened up about the scam and I was a recipient of that. You do? And almost fell to it. Yeah, sorry. Almost fell victim to it. And I called to Town Hall to confirm. My bank actually caught it. Because the bank that they were asking to wire the money to was kind of like a known... I have fidelity. And they were like questioning me. I go, this is the town board. It's planning. I looked at that. The seal. Everything looked very legitimate. Whoever was doing it. $4,000. Yeah. And they had a whole list of bullets of why it would cost $4,000. And I'm thinking, you know, what bank was the money going to? Lead Bank in Kansas City, Missouri. That was early. Why would you guys be doing business with a bank in Kansas City? So, anyway, I called. The offices were closed on Monday because of the snow. But Heather got back to me that same day and sent me a note and confirmed. So, thank you very much for that. I appreciate it. You checked with Megan, too. And she's like, no, don't do anything. When I couldn't get through you guys, I called her right away. She said, this definitely doesn't look right. Crazy that people are out there doing that. And, you know, if they put their money... If they put their money into more productive things, maybe in an honest living, we don't live with people like that all my life. That ain't happening. Thank you. Not yet. We have some additional business. So, before we close, the board had reopened the appeal number 20-25-042 Stony Brook Ambulance Center. You had reopened it and set the hearing date for March 12th. The applicants need to change things about the relief. So, the notice is actually going to have to get... redone. They didn't make the deadline for March 12th. So, the next upcoming dates are March 26th and April 9th. So, depending upon when they get that information in, I could complete the legal notice. And they'll have to repost the property and remail. And you also advised that the Connick Bay Medical informed you they are not available for the second March date. Amy Loeb is not available on March 26th. So, exactly. So, it'll be an April date. Alright, so we have minutes. Can you walk in final or something? I make a motion to approve the minutes. Let's get out of here. January 22nd. Second. All in favor? Second. Aye. So, our next meeting date is March 12th, 2026. Motion to close? So moved. All in favor? Second. Thank you. Everybody have a safe trip home, whatever.

Thank you.